September 26, 2025 • 31 mins
This episode came through unexpectedly while I was walking on my property. What was meant to be a quick reel turned into a 30-minute download straight from the heart. With so much intensity and transformation in the air, I couldn’t ignore the call to speak about what's really going on, especially for those of us who are Outer Planet People.
In this episode, I unpack why everything feels so heightened right now, how the rare shifts of Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto are activating deep transformation across the collective, and why Outer Planet People—the deep feelers, the trailblazers, the ones who’ve always felt different—are being called to lead. If you’ve ever felt out of place, misunderstood, or like you’re here to guide others in a way that defies logic and convention, this one’s for you.
What You'll Learn:
- What defines an outer planet person and how to know if you are one
- Why your lifelong sense of alienation has a cosmic explanation
- How the current planetary shifts are impacting the collective, and you personally
- The responsibility and gift of holding the “tension of opposites”
- The Outer Planet People's role in the collective awakening
- Why discernment is key to working with the right clients (and the cost of ignoring it)
- The sacred process of inner alignment as the new paradigm of leadership
- How your frequency becomes the tuning fork that activates others into transformation
- How Michelle’s unique Soul Purpose Lab, Evolution Lab, and Legacy Lab support outer planet practitioners in building aligned, sustainable, and satisfying work
If you've felt like you're here to do things differently—on a deeper level and for a very specific kind of person—this is your confirmation. You’re not alone. You’re not too much. You’re exactly who the world needs right now.
If this episode resonated, share it with someone who’s on a similar path. And if you’re ready to step into your next level, reach out—I’d love to connect and see if we’re aligned to work together.
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Michelle (00:00):
Hello and welcome back.
I'm so glad you're here.
So today's episode was actuallyrecorded on a whim.
I was going on a walk on myproperty and I pulled out my
cell phone thinking that I wasgoing to be recording a quick
little reel.
There's so much going on in theworld right now, so much
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change, so many emotions arerunning high, so many people are
transforming, and so many bigthings are happening.
And I wanted to speak on that.
And once I started talking, Iended up talking for 30 minutes.
Needless to say, I could nolonger use this as a reel.
So I thought that I wouldinstead put this here on my
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podcast for you.
Because there's a lot ofnuggets of wisdom that I think
that you might find interestingand benefit from.
Especially if you are an outerplanet person.
What is an outer planet person?
You're gonna learn all aboutthat.
And if you want to confirm foryourself, you can grab the Chart
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Your Power toolkit andguidebook in the show notes, and
you can find out if you are anouter planet person too.
So I hope that you enjoy theseinsights.
They come straight from theheart, and I hope the background
noise of the crickets providessome ambience for you.
I hope you enjoy.
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Now there's many differentreasons for that, many different
explanations for that.
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One that's standing out for meright now comes down to what's
going on with the planets, wherethey're moving where they are
currently, because planets doaffect us.
Think about the moon and itsimpact on the movement of water,
for example, and how it changesthe tides, as one of many
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examples that science isstarting to show actually
impacts us.
So there are three otherplanets: Uranus, Neptune, and
Pluto.
And all three have moved intonew signs within the last 10
months.
All of them are at one degreeof their new sign that they have
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moved into.
The last time Pluto moved intoAquarius was in the 1700s when
the U.S.
Constitution was written afterCivil War.
The last time Neptune movedinto the sign that it's in now
was around the War of 1812.
And the last time that Uranusmoved into the sign that it's
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just moved into recently was in1941, when the US joined the war
to make it a world war.
If you can't tell, that'ssignificant, especially with all
three of them moving all at thesame time.
There is a lot of energy beingmoved.
It's significant.
It's significant enough if oneof these planets moves.
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Never mind all three at thesame time.
Now, why am I bringing this up?
So, first of all, these outerplanets, there's themes with all
the planets.
Themes that we're here to movethrough.
They're kind of like veils.
Veils that we're here to movethrough in terms of like
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distortion and programming andthe way we see things, as we
grow and learn, we move throughthe different veils.
Because in Hermeticism, there'sa theory that says that when
you incarnate into this world,you have to come down from
source, which they call thenoose, through all the different
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planetary veils to get toEarth, to get to who you are, to
get to where you are, to get towhere your soul is implanted in
your body, and you are here inthis lifetime.
And our whole journey of ourlifetime is to then ascend
through the planetary veils oneby one until we can get closer
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and closer and closer back tothe noose, back to source, back
to where we came from.
Basically, move through all thethemes of all the different
planets in the order that wecame down in the reverse order.
Now, in Hermeticism, they onlyknew about seven planets.
They called them the classicalplanets or lower octave planets
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because they didn't have thetechnology yet to be able to see
or perceive the three outerplanets.
So back then, Saturn was theoutermost planet, and that was
the most difficult of thejourneys, the most difficult of
the lessons to learn.
It's a heavy planet, it'sdense, there's a lot there to
work through.
And since then, we've been ableto perceive these outer three
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planets, and since theirdiscovery, even their discovery
and our ability to perceive themshifts something in terms of
collective consciousness.
That's a whole other story.
And we're here to move throughthose outer planet veils as
well.
Now, here's the thing is theouter planet veils, they don't,
they're hard to touch, they'rehard to understand and wrap your
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head around because they don'taffect us personally.
They affect us as a collective,as a generation, because they
move so slowly, unless you're anouter planet person.
So what's an outer planetperson?
If you have an astrology chartwhere one or more of the outer
planets are touching or in avery close conjunction or in a
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hard angle to one of yourpersonal luminaries or angles.
So sun, moon, rising sign,mid-heaven are the ones that I
see most commonly in my clients.
It's not super common to havethese placements.
However, my clients, prettymuch every single one of them,
has at least one of these outerplanet placements.
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We're called outer planetpeople because of these
placements.
Because the veils and thelessons and the themes from
these outer planets affect uspersonally, whereas with the
rest of the rest of the otherpeople, they they don't impact
them personally.
And because of that, andbecause of the heaviness and the
thickness of these veils, theyare big lessons, big
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perspectives, huge things thatwe think differently than
others, we see thingsdifferently than others, we feel
differently than others.
And that's why some of theseconfigurations are called alien
constructs.
Not because we're aliens, notbecause we came from UFOs, but
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because we don't feel like wefit in, that we feel like we've
been alienated.
We feel like an alien becausewe feel so different, right from
the get-go, and this is why.
And it can feel hard,especially when you're younger
and people don't understand andyou don't understand, right?
You feel like people don'tunderstand you, you don't
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understand how other peoplethink because you don't think
that way.
And especially when you'regrowing up in your younger
years, there's this need to fitin, right?
And when you don't, it can feelharrowing, it can feel
difficult, and it can feel likewhat's wrong with me, and why
can't I just be like everyoneelse?
Well, you're not supposed to.
And the people in my world havealready done the inner work to
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recognize that, and to recognizethat their difference and their
sensitivity and their depth andtheir intensity and all the
things that make them outerplanet people, they're not
things to fix, you know.
They've come to thisrealization, and they've come to
this realization that whatmakes them different are likely
their strengths, are the thingsthat they're here to lead with.
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Now, here's the thing rightnow, with these outer planets
moving in an unprecedented way,that means that the rest of the
people who don't have theseouter planets on personal points
are now being impacted by thelessons and themes of these
outer planets, and they'reharsh, they're heavy, they're
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thick, and that's why so manypeople are having a hard time
with it.
And it's waking some people up,and it's causing some people to
dig in their heels, it'scausing some people to be in
distress, it's causing somepeople to revolt against each
other, right?
That's a whole other topic asit comes to the tension of
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opposites.
Now, this is the thing.
Those of us who are outerplanet people already have this
experience with the themes andthe energy of these outer
planets.
We've lived with it our entirelives.
Even if we haven't beencognizant of it, it's always
been there.
And because of that, we arefurther ahead than the people
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who don't have these placementsin their astrology chart.
We are here to lead them.
We are here to guide them.
We are here to show them theway through this because it's
all happening right now for us.
We are in a fourth turning.
Things are changing.
We are in a collapse phase.
Things that are not helpful tous are breaking apart so that we
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can build to something at ahigher level, at a higher level
of consciousness.
Because Young said that that isthe way that we're going to be
able to move through theseproblems of humanity.
We can't solve them.
We need to get to a higherlevel of consciousness in order
to move past them, to growbeyond them.
And those of us who are theouter planet people, this is our
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time.
This is your time.
You're here to be leading andguiding yourself first, always,
self-leadership first, always.
Right?
And that involves being able tohold the tension of opposites,
integrating your shadows.
And it's not a one and done,it's a constant journey of
constantly learning how tointegrate your shadows and hold
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the tension of all theseopposing polarizing forces
because the people who haven'tdone this yet are projecting it
onto each other into the worldbecause it's so hard to hold.
It's not an easy process foranybody.
And it is so much easier todeflect that stuff, to project
it instead of take stop and takea look and hold on to that
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tension long enough that itcreates a transcendental third,
an elevated level ofconsciousness, a different
perspective, a differentmindset, a different attitude
that changes everything, thatmakes the initial conflict mute
point.
And the only way to do that isto hold that tension long enough
for that transcendental thirdto be created, right?
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And that's you know theconcepts of alchemy, right?
Back to Hermeticism.
Right?
In order to be able to createthat, you have to sit in the
fire of it.
You have to be the cruciblethat's strong enough to hold all
the stuff that needs to happenin order to alchemize that.
And if you're listening tothis, you are one of those
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people.
If you are following me, youare one of those people because
these are the people I workwith.
These are the people that I'vebeen doing my own work and
continue to do my own workbecause it's ongoing.
I've done my own inner work andcontinue to, and it's become
clear to me with my own innerunderstanding that this is who
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I'm here for now in my ownpurpose journey is to help those
who are outer planet people tostep into their own leadership,
to step into their own nextlevel as a guide for the
collective, not by helpingeverybody, but by actually truly
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discerning who specifically youare here for.
Because you have a veryspecific way of doing things,
you have a very specificapproach, and you know this
already, right?
You're not here for everybody.
And you know, I've taught I'vespoken about the fact that when
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you're trying to be foreverybody, you know, the the the
surface piece of that is, well,then you're here for no one.
However, when you are when youare built like this, the people
who are you are here for, theywill activate, they will
transform, right?
It's kind of like you're atuning fork, and somebody who is
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at the same note and frequencyof tuning fork, they come in
your presence, they willactivate when your tuning fork
is activated, when it's tuned tothe right frequency that's
aligned with who you are and howyou are built.
And it's kind of like you are,if you understand homeopathy,
right?
My naturopathic and homeopathicfriends out there, it's the
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similar.
You are the similar, right?
Your presence alone willactivate the person for which
their frequency needs activationfrom your specific tuning fork.
And if you are trying to workwith somebody who is not that
person, then more than likely,A, you're not gonna see as much
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results as you expect or want orsee from your ideal clients,
which is gonna frustrate you.
It's gonna frustrate them.
You know that there's so muchmore that could be had when
you're working with the rightfit person, or they might even
aggravate, right?
They can get triggered,especially if they're not
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looking for what you have tooffer, right?
Because you act like a mirrorand you are mirroring back to
them their unconscious mind ofthe things that they need to see
in order to transform, in orderto activate, in order to raise
their level of consciousness.
And if that's not what they'relooking for, if they don't want
that flavor of mirror, if theydon't want to see themselves in
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that light, they're not gonna beso happy.
And so this is why it's soimportant, especially if you are
a practitioner, a clinician, ahealer, a coach who is built
this way to discern who you areactually here for.
So, A, that you, the peoplethat show up are the right fit
clients and they are going toskyrocket in your presence
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beyond what your professionalskills alone can deliver, right?
This is beyond that.
Professional skills areimportant, right?
You need to know the technic,like the technical details of
your profession.
And this is the thing that goesfurther than that.
I've seen it over and overagain.
And this is the thing I've seenin my own work, right?
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Beyond anything that I was ableto facilitate as a clinical and
naturopathic doctor, what I donow and how I do it, and because
I have discerned my frequency,how I operate, how I'm designed,
and who I'm designed to beactivating, who I'm designed to
be guiding and leading.
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And then I discerned that andgot specific on it and focused
on that.
Not by trying to figure outwhat I think they need to hear
me to say in my messaging.
I have been learning that thekey here is getting clear on you
first, because it doesn'tmatter what you you say in your
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messaging.
If you haven't gotten clear onyou, it's gonna fall flat.
It's like your radio stationisn't tuned and it's all fuzzy
and staticky.
They're not gonna hear itclearly, they're not gonna be
magnetized to it, versus whenyou tune into yourself first and
get clear on that first, thenit's like you become an antenna
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that pulls people in.
And this is the thing, right?
The clients that I have now,right, over and over and over
again, it took years for me tofigure this out, right?
They're highly sensitivepeople.
Most of them are INFJs, whichare like INFJ females,
especially, are like 0.5% of thepopulation.
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Now, why is it that like almost90% of my clients are female
INFJs?
Outer planet people are not acommon, not common in the
general population.
Why is it that every single oneof my clients are outer planet
people?
It's because of this work thatI've done for myself, and now I
help my clients figure that outfor themselves because their
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ideal clients are not exactlylike mine.
However, they're built for aspecific type of ideal client
just like I'm built for aspecific type of ideal client.
And when you connect, that'swhen the magic happens.
And it's not only a nice tohave these days, it's actually
your responsibility.
What do I mean by that?
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You know that you're here tomake an impact, a meaningful
impact for the greater good.
You know that about yourself.
And you've probably alreadyfigured out that making that
bigger impact isn't just abouthelping as many people as you
can, right?
You've probably already learnedthat lesson.
I know I learned the hard waywhen I was a naturopathic
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doctor, taking everybody, right?
Colds, back pain, digestion,cancer, like autoimmunity, all
the things.
They saw my sign, they walk inthe clinic, I take them on.
And you know, that works.
And when you're designed likethis and you've been going
through your own inner growthand evolution journey, you get
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to a point where that's nolonger, that's not your journey
anymore.
You've moved past that becauseyou've grown.
And when you grow, the personwho used to be a right fit is
likely not gonna be a right fitanymore.
And working with the generalpopulation, with anyone and
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everyone, is not going to workfor you anymore, and it's not
gonna work for them anymore.
What's gonna work is gettingclear on who are you now?
Now that you've grown andevolved, where are you now?
Who are you?
How are you built?
How are you designed?
And work with your designinstead of against it.
Because when you work againstyour design, that's the thing
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that will squash your frequency,and your radio station will go
radiostatic more quickly thananything.
And what do I mean by that?
Working against yourself.
So much of society, businessadvice, professional advice says
you've got to operate yourbusiness this way, you've got to
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have this many clients, you'vegot to have your clinic like
this, your schedule like this,you've got to, you know, do your
sessions like this.
Like these are examples, right?
Do your marketing like this,talk about things like this.
Especially if you knowintuitively, like there's
something about that that's notworking.
And so many people I hear overand over again, but why can't I
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just make it work?
I don't enjoy it, but I forcemyself to do it.
Or there's something about thisthat I don't like, but this is
the way I have to do it.
This is the way I should do it,right?
Or why can't I just be likeeverybody else?
Why can't I just do it likeeverybody else?
Because you're not supposed to.
And the more you force yourselfto do it like everybody else,
the more you're squashing yourradio station frequency.
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And that's doing all of us adisservice because you are here
to guide a very specific type ofperson in a very specific type
of way to wake up, to be able toraise their level of
consciousness so that one by onewe can raise the consciousness
of the collective so that we canmove through this shit and out
the other side, so that we canget through ever all this stuff
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that's going on.
And the outer planets right noware telling us this is time.
We can't ignore this anylonger, and this is the paradigm
shift to start with your inneralignment first, to get to know
who you are and operate fromthat, not what groupthink tells
you that you need to be doing,because that's the thing that's
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crumbling, that's the thingthat's not working anymore.
And the reason why you felt sofreaking different your whole
life is because now you'resupposed to step into the
leadership that shows peoplethat that's actually not the way
it works.
So, life is going bananas rightnow.
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You can feel it, everyone canfeel it, and some people are
freaking out, getting upset,it's feeling disorienting, and
some people are waking up.
You can see more and morepeople are waking up because of
what's going on right now, andthat's supposed to be happening,
and you are at the forefront ofthis, you've already woken up
to so much.
You're here to lead and guidepeople to get through this
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because you already know all ofthis stuff that people are just
starting to realize now.
So you've got this, you alreadyknew deep down, even if you
didn't have words for it, what'sreally going on, and the things
that I'm explaining here, youalready knew.
And in my work, you know, Ifigured out some things.
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I'm it's like I'm a step aheadof my outer planet practitioners
who are figuring this out.
So I figured out some thingsand put words to them.
So now you have the words forit, and you're like, oh, this is
what my clients tell me all thetime.
They're like, I already knewthis, but now it makes sense.
Everything makes sense now.
And sometimes you've alreadyknown it, but you didn't give
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yourself permission becausethat's not the way other people
do it, because no one else hasever spoken about this.
And this is why so many of myclients they tell me things and
they're like, I'm telling youthis, and I've never told
anybody because nobodyunderstands, and I know you're
gonna get this, or you're one ofthe few people who understand.
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So I need to tell somebody.
I'm gonna tell you because Iknow you get it.
I do get it.
And my job right now, and I wasactually informed by an
astrologer about my specificouter planet placements and
alien constructs that actuallymy specific ones, I'm actually
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designed to be a guide for otherouter planet people that are
like a step behind me to showthem the ropes and show them the
way forward.
So I've had to commit to my owninner work to actually step
into this role because you knowit's not easy.
This inner work stuff, right?
And you also know theliberation on the other side
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with every every level of thespiral, right?
Because the shit keeps comingback to a new level and a new
level every time you up-level,right?
It doesn't stop at okay, I'veawakened, so now I can just sit
back and relax.
Yeah, I made that mistake anumber of years ago.
Surprise! That's not the way itworks.
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So now my job is to work withouter planet practitioners, the
ones who are highly sensitive,the ones who are deep thinkers,
the ones who know that they aredifferent and that they are here
to do it differently.
And they know that they'vealready moved past being the
general practitioner, and theyknow that they are here to be
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working with a very specifictype of person in a very
specific type of way, and theyknow there is a next step to
their journey of what they'redoing with their life's work,
because they know that they'rehere to making to make an
impact.
They know that they're here todo meaningful work that's not
only sat successful butsatisfying.
And I help them see that nextstep clearly.
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I help them understand exactlywho they're here for now,
especially since they've grownand evolved.
I help them understand how toread their own inner knowing to
a level deeper than they've everhad before, because you have
the answers within you.
And I help you see andunderstand and translate it and
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trust it.
And I help you figure out howto wield the gifts that come
with being an outer planetperson, because there are huge
gifts that can feel confusing ifyou don't know how to work with
them.
And when you do know how towork with them and you use them
with the right fit person whothey are meant for, that's when
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magic happens that seems to defyall logic.
So if you're picking up whatI'm putting down, reach out.
We'll chat to see if we'realigned.
I always want to make sure thatthe people that I'm working
with resonate, that we are aright fit because that is when
the magic happens.
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Right?
I act like a tuning fork thathelps to activate you so that
you can then go off and be thetuning fork that activates the
people that you're meant to beactivating.
That's the way it works.
So I have a few different waysto work with me.
If that interests you, I havethe soul purpose lab, and this
is where we get crystal clear onwho you are designed to work
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with and how, what you're hereto actually be leading now.
What's the next step in yourevolution of your work?
And what is that next step?
That's the soul purpose lab.
The evolution lab is okay, sonow you've gotten clear.
Is there anything holding youback from it?
Right?
Are there any fears?
Are there any, you know,limiting beliefs?
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Is there any survival reflexes,right?
Like old people-pleasingbehaviors, old things that are
like preventing you fromactually saying what you know
you want to say.
We clear those from theunconscious mind and we upgrade
your inner operating system andset your whole system up, your
nervous system, your unconsciousmind, your whole inner
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operating system to increaseyour capacity to hold what's on
the other side of your nextlevel.
Because with more success, withmore light, with more
greatness, with more all thethings that you know you're
stepping into, comes theopposite side of the coin.
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More shadow, more darkness,more challenge.
And all of those things are thethings for you to integrate,
and those are the things thatcreate the friction for you to
step into your greatness.
And all of that will happenwith much more flow if you can
expand your capacity.
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And so we do that in EvolutionLab, and then we spend some time
getting clear on now thatyou've done that, now let's talk
about the next steps and moveyou through them into the next
phase of your work.
And then there's legacy lab.
That's the nine-month journeythat includes everything that
I've mentioned.
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And then we take the time tomove through actually
establishing that next levelbody of work that becomes your
legacy, that you're known for inyour industry, that you create
that impactful change that youknow that you're here for.
I help you create that in a waythat will continue to evolve as
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you evolve, because when you'rean outer planet person, you
can't just stay in the sameplace.
It's it's like it doesn't workfor you.
And what I had to realize formyself and my own work is you
need to set this body of work upso that it continues to evolve
as you do, because the person,you know, a year, two years,
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five years from now, the entrypoint of that person is not
going to be the same entry pointas they are now.
It will evolve as you do, itwill grow and expand as you do,
right?
The people who are entering myworld now are not at the same
level they were a year ago, fiveyears ago, ten years ago.
And I've come to realize thatthat's actually necessary.
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So we get clear on that.
We set up your work that way sothat it does continue to
evolve.
And we work through all the upsand downs as life life as you
establish all of this andcontinue to grow your capacity
and continue to upgrade youroperating system as you continue
to evolve so that you could beoperating from your highest
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potential and fullest potentialon the other side.
And this is what lights me up.
It energizes me and it makesme, it's, you know, it's I've
come to this realization thatworking with the right fit
person, it's not draining atall.
It's energizing, it'sinspirational, and it also helps
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me continue to grow and evolve.
So I ended up going in acompletely different direction,
and I feel like this is animportant message.
If you're listening to this, Ihope that this was insightful in
some way.
And reach out whether or notyou want to explore any of these
labs, or if you want to let meknow how this landed for you.
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I would love, I love to hearhow other people are taking this
in for themselves.
Hello and welcome back.
I'm so glad you're here.
So today's episode was actuallyrecorded on a whim.
I was going on a walk on myproperty and I pulled out my
cell phone thinking that I wasgoing to be recording a quick
little reel.
There's so much going on in theworld right now, so much
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change, so many emotions arerunning high, so many people are
transforming, and so many bigthings are happening.
And I wanted to speak on that.
And once I started talking, Iended up talking for 30 minutes.
Needless to say, I could nolonger use this as a reel.
So I thought that I wouldinstead put this here on my
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podcast for you.
Because there's a lot ofnuggets of wisdom that I think
that you might find interestingand benefit from.
Especially if you are an outerplanet person.
What is an outer planet person?
You're gonna learn all aboutthat.
And if you want to confirm foryourself, you can grab the Chart
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Your Power toolkit andguidebook in the show notes, and
you can find out if you are anouter planet person too.
So I hope that you enjoy theseinsights.
They come straight from theheart, and I hope the background
noise of the crickets providessome ambience for you.
I hope you enjoy.
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Now there's many differentreasons for that, many different
explanations for that.
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One that's standing out for meright now comes down to what's
going on with the planets, wherethey're moving where they are
currently, because planets doaffect us.
Think about the moon and itsimpact on the movement of water,
for example, and how it changesthe tides, as one of many
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examples that science isstarting to show actually
impacts us.
So there are three otherplanets: Uranus, Neptune, and
Pluto.
And all three have moved intonew signs within the last 10
months.
All of them are at one degreeof their new sign that they have
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moved into.
The last time Pluto moved intoAquarius was in the 1700s when
the U.S.
Constitution was written afterCivil War.
The last time Neptune movedinto the sign that it's in now
was around the War of 1812.
And the last time that Uranusmoved into the sign that it's
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just moved into recently was in1941, when the US joined the war
to make it a world war.
If you can't tell, that'ssignificant, especially with all
three of them moving all at thesame time.
There is a lot of energy beingmoved.
It's significant.
It's significant enough if oneof these planets moves.
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Never mind all three at thesame time.
Now, why am I bringing this up?
So, first of all, these outerplanets, there's themes with all
the planets.
Themes that we're here to movethrough.
They're kind of like veils.
Veils that we're here to movethrough in terms of like
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distortion and programming andthe way we see things, as we
grow and learn, we move throughthe different veils.
Because in Hermeticism, there'sa theory that says that when
you incarnate into this world,you have to come down from
source, which they call thenoose, through all the different
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planetary veils to get toEarth, to get to who you are, to
get to where you are, to get towhere your soul is implanted in
your body, and you are here inthis lifetime.
And our whole journey of ourlifetime is to then ascend
through the planetary veils oneby one until we can get closer
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and closer and closer back tothe noose, back to source, back
to where we came from.
Basically, move through all thethemes of all the different
planets in the order that wecame down in the reverse order.
Now, in Hermeticism, they onlyknew about seven planets.
They called them the classicalplanets or lower octave planets
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because they didn't have thetechnology yet to be able to see
or perceive the three outerplanets.
So back then, Saturn was theoutermost planet, and that was
the most difficult of thejourneys, the most difficult of
the lessons to learn.
It's a heavy planet, it'sdense, there's a lot there to
work through.
And since then, we've been ableto perceive these outer three
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planets, and since theirdiscovery, even their discovery
and our ability to perceive themshifts something in terms of
collective consciousness.
That's a whole other story.
And we're here to move throughthose outer planet veils as
well.
Now, here's the thing is theouter planet veils, they don't,
they're hard to touch, they'rehard to understand and wrap your
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head around because they don'taffect us personally.
They affect us as a collective,as a generation, because they
move so slowly, unless you're anouter planet person.
So what's an outer planetperson?
If you have an astrology chartwhere one or more of the outer
planets are touching or in avery close conjunction or in a
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hard angle to one of yourpersonal luminaries or angles.
So sun, moon, rising sign,mid-heaven are the ones that I
see most commonly in my clients.
It's not super common to havethese placements.
However, my clients, prettymuch every single one of them,
has at least one of these outerplanet placements.
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We're called outer planetpeople because of these
placements.
Because the veils and thelessons and the themes from
these outer planets affect uspersonally, whereas with the
rest of the rest of the otherpeople, they they don't impact
them personally.
And because of that, andbecause of the heaviness and the
thickness of these veils, theyare big lessons, big
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perspectives, huge things thatwe think differently than
others, we see thingsdifferently than others, we feel
differently than others.
And that's why some of theseconfigurations are called alien
constructs.
Not because we're aliens, notbecause we came from UFOs, but
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because we don't feel like wefit in, that we feel like we've
been alienated.
We feel like an alien becausewe feel so different, right from
the get-go, and this is why.
And it can feel hard,especially when you're younger
and people don't understand andyou don't understand, right?
You feel like people don'tunderstand you, you don't
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understand how other peoplethink because you don't think
that way.
And especially when you'regrowing up in your younger
years, there's this need to fitin, right?
And when you don't, it can feelharrowing, it can feel
difficult, and it can feel likewhat's wrong with me, and why
can't I just be like everyoneelse?
Well, you're not supposed to.
And the people in my world havealready done the inner work to
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recognize that, and to recognizethat their difference and their
sensitivity and their depth andtheir intensity and all the
things that make them outerplanet people, they're not
things to fix, you know.
They've come to thisrealization, and they've come to
this realization that whatmakes them different are likely
their strengths, are the thingsthat they're here to lead with.
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Now, here's the thing rightnow, with these outer planets
moving in an unprecedented way,that means that the rest of the
people who don't have theseouter planets on personal points
are now being impacted by thelessons and themes of these
outer planets, and they'reharsh, they're heavy, they're
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thick, and that's why so manypeople are having a hard time
with it.
And it's waking some people up,and it's causing some people to
dig in their heels, it'scausing some people to be in
distress, it's causing somepeople to revolt against each
other, right?
That's a whole other topic asit comes to the tension of
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opposites.
Now, this is the thing.
Those of us who are outerplanet people already have this
experience with the themes andthe energy of these outer
planets.
We've lived with it our entirelives.
Even if we haven't beencognizant of it, it's always
been there.
And because of that, we arefurther ahead than the people
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who don't have these placementsin their astrology chart.
We are here to lead them.
We are here to guide them.
We are here to show them theway through this because it's
all happening right now for us.
We are in a fourth turning.
Things are changing.
We are in a collapse phase.
Things that are not helpful tous are breaking apart so that we
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can build to something at ahigher level, at a higher level
of consciousness.
Because Young said that that isthe way that we're going to be
able to move through theseproblems of humanity.
We can't solve them.
We need to get to a higherlevel of consciousness in order
to move past them, to growbeyond them.
And those of us who are theouter planet people, this is our
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time.
This is your time.
You're here to be leading andguiding yourself first, always,
self-leadership first, always.
Right?
And that involves being able tohold the tension of opposites,
integrating your shadows.
And it's not a one and done,it's a constant journey of
constantly learning how tointegrate your shadows and hold
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the tension of all theseopposing polarizing forces
because the people who haven'tdone this yet are projecting it
onto each other into the worldbecause it's so hard to hold.
It's not an easy process foranybody.
And it is so much easier todeflect that stuff, to project
it instead of take stop and takea look and hold on to that
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tension long enough that itcreates a transcendental third,
an elevated level ofconsciousness, a different
perspective, a differentmindset, a different attitude
that changes everything, thatmakes the initial conflict mute
point.
And the only way to do that isto hold that tension long enough
for that transcendental thirdto be created, right?
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And that's you know theconcepts of alchemy, right?
Back to Hermeticism.
Right?
In order to be able to createthat, you have to sit in the
fire of it.
You have to be the cruciblethat's strong enough to hold all
the stuff that needs to happenin order to alchemize that.
And if you're listening tothis, you are one of those
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people.
If you are following me, youare one of those people because
these are the people I workwith.
These are the people that I'vebeen doing my own work and
continue to do my own workbecause it's ongoing.
I've done my own inner work andcontinue to, and it's become
clear to me with my own innerunderstanding that this is who
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I'm here for now in my ownpurpose journey is to help those
who are outer planet people tostep into their own leadership,
to step into their own nextlevel as a guide for the
collective, not by helpingeverybody, but by actually truly
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discerning who specifically youare here for.
Because you have a veryspecific way of doing things,
you have a very specificapproach, and you know this
already, right?
You're not here for everybody.
And you know, I've taught I'vespoken about the fact that when
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you're trying to be foreverybody, you know, the the the
surface piece of that is, well,then you're here for no one.
However, when you are when youare built like this, the people
who are you are here for, theywill activate, they will
transform, right?
It's kind of like you're atuning fork, and somebody who is
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at the same note and frequencyof tuning fork, they come in
your presence, they willactivate when your tuning fork
is activated, when it's tuned tothe right frequency that's
aligned with who you are and howyou are built.
And it's kind of like you are,if you understand homeopathy,
right?
My naturopathic and homeopathicfriends out there, it's the
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similar.
You are the similar, right?
Your presence alone willactivate the person for which
their frequency needs activationfrom your specific tuning fork.
And if you are trying to workwith somebody who is not that
person, then more than likely,A, you're not gonna see as much
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results as you expect or want orsee from your ideal clients,
which is gonna frustrate you.
It's gonna frustrate them.
You know that there's so muchmore that could be had when
you're working with the rightfit person, or they might even
aggravate, right?
They can get triggered,especially if they're not
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looking for what you have tooffer, right?
Because you act like a mirrorand you are mirroring back to
them their unconscious mind ofthe things that they need to see
in order to transform, in orderto activate, in order to raise
their level of consciousness.
And if that's not what they'relooking for, if they don't want
that flavor of mirror, if theydon't want to see themselves in
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that light, they're not gonna beso happy.
And so this is why it's soimportant, especially if you are
a practitioner, a clinician, ahealer, a coach who is built
this way to discern who you areactually here for.
So, A, that you, the peoplethat show up are the right fit
clients and they are going toskyrocket in your presence
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beyond what your professionalskills alone can deliver, right?
This is beyond that.
Professional skills areimportant, right?
You need to know the technic,like the technical details of
your profession.
And this is the thing that goesfurther than that.
I've seen it over and overagain.
And this is the thing I've seenin my own work, right?
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Beyond anything that I was ableto facilitate as a clinical and
naturopathic doctor, what I donow and how I do it, and because
I have discerned my frequency,how I operate, how I'm designed,
and who I'm designed to beactivating, who I'm designed to
be guiding and leading.
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And then I discerned that andgot specific on it and focused
on that.
Not by trying to figure outwhat I think they need to hear
me to say in my messaging.
I have been learning that thekey here is getting clear on you
first, because it doesn'tmatter what you you say in your
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messaging.
If you haven't gotten clear onyou, it's gonna fall flat.
It's like your radio stationisn't tuned and it's all fuzzy
and staticky.
They're not gonna hear itclearly, they're not gonna be
magnetized to it, versus whenyou tune into yourself first and
get clear on that first, thenit's like you become an antenna
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that pulls people in.
And this is the thing, right?
The clients that I have now,right, over and over and over
again, it took years for me tofigure this out, right?
They're highly sensitivepeople.
Most of them are INFJs, whichare like INFJ females,
especially, are like 0.5% of thepopulation.
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Now, why is it that like almost90% of my clients are female
INFJs?
Outer planet people are not acommon, not common in the
general population.
Why is it that every single oneof my clients are outer planet
people?
It's because of this work thatI've done for myself, and now I
help my clients figure that outfor themselves because their
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ideal clients are not exactlylike mine.
However, they're built for aspecific type of ideal client
just like I'm built for aspecific type of ideal client.
And when you connect, that'swhen the magic happens.
And it's not only a nice tohave these days, it's actually
your responsibility.
What do I mean by that?
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You know that you're here tomake an impact, a meaningful
impact for the greater good.
You know that about yourself.
And you've probably alreadyfigured out that making that
bigger impact isn't just abouthelping as many people as you
can, right?
You've probably already learnedthat lesson.
I know I learned the hard waywhen I was a naturopathic
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doctor, taking everybody, right?
Colds, back pain, digestion,cancer, like autoimmunity, all
the things.
They saw my sign, they walk inthe clinic, I take them on.
And you know, that works.
And when you're designed likethis and you've been going
through your own inner growthand evolution journey, you get
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to a point where that's nolonger, that's not your journey
anymore.
You've moved past that becauseyou've grown.
And when you grow, the personwho used to be a right fit is
likely not gonna be a right fitanymore.
And working with the generalpopulation, with anyone and
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everyone, is not going to workfor you anymore, and it's not
gonna work for them anymore.
What's gonna work is gettingclear on who are you now?
Now that you've grown andevolved, where are you now?
Who are you?
How are you built?
How are you designed?
And work with your designinstead of against it.
Because when you work againstyour design, that's the thing
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that will squash your frequency,and your radio station will go
radiostatic more quickly thananything.
And what do I mean by that?
Working against yourself.
So much of society, businessadvice, professional advice says
you've got to operate yourbusiness this way, you've got to
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have this many clients, you'vegot to have your clinic like
this, your schedule like this,you've got to, you know, do your
sessions like this.
Like these are examples, right?
Do your marketing like this,talk about things like this.
Especially if you knowintuitively, like there's
something about that that's notworking.
And so many people I hear overand over again, but why can't I
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just make it work?
I don't enjoy it, but I forcemyself to do it.
Or there's something about thisthat I don't like, but this is
the way I have to do it.
This is the way I should do it,right?
Or why can't I just be likeeverybody else?
Why can't I just do it likeeverybody else?
Because you're not supposed to.
And the more you force yourselfto do it like everybody else,
the more you're squashing yourradio station frequency.
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And that's doing all of us adisservice because you are here
to guide a very specific type ofperson in a very specific type
of way to wake up, to be able toraise their level of
consciousness so that one by onewe can raise the consciousness
of the collective so that we canmove through this shit and out
the other side, so that we canget through ever all this stuff
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that's going on.
And the outer planets right noware telling us this is time.
We can't ignore this anylonger, and this is the paradigm
shift to start with your inneralignment first, to get to know
who you are and operate fromthat, not what groupthink tells
you that you need to be doing,because that's the thing that's
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crumbling, that's the thingthat's not working anymore.
And the reason why you felt sofreaking different your whole
life is because now you'resupposed to step into the
leadership that shows peoplethat that's actually not the way
it works.
So, life is going bananas rightnow.
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You can feel it, everyone canfeel it, and some people are
freaking out, getting upset,it's feeling disorienting, and
some people are waking up.
You can see more and morepeople are waking up because of
what's going on right now, andthat's supposed to be happening,
and you are at the forefront ofthis, you've already woken up
to so much.
You're here to lead and guidepeople to get through this
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because you already know all ofthis stuff that people are just
starting to realize now.
So you've got this, you alreadyknew deep down, even if you
didn't have words for it, what'sreally going on, and the things
that I'm explaining here, youalready knew.
And in my work, you know, Ifigured out some things.
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I'm it's like I'm a step aheadof my outer planet practitioners
who are figuring this out.
So I figured out some thingsand put words to them.
So now you have the words forit, and you're like, oh, this is
what my clients tell me all thetime.
They're like, I already knewthis, but now it makes sense.
Everything makes sense now.
And sometimes you've alreadyknown it, but you didn't give
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yourself permission becausethat's not the way other people
do it, because no one else hasever spoken about this.
And this is why so many of myclients they tell me things and
they're like, I'm telling youthis, and I've never told
anybody because nobodyunderstands, and I know you're
gonna get this, or you're one ofthe few people who understand.
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So I need to tell somebody.
I'm gonna tell you because Iknow you get it.
I do get it.
And my job right now, and I wasactually informed by an
astrologer about my specificouter planet placements and
alien constructs that actuallymy specific ones, I'm actually
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designed to be a guide for otherouter planet people that are
like a step behind me to showthem the ropes and show them the
way forward.
So I've had to commit to my owninner work to actually step
into this role because you knowit's not easy.
This inner work stuff, right?
And you also know theliberation on the other side
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with every every level of thespiral, right?
Because the shit keeps comingback to a new level and a new
level every time you up-level,right?
It doesn't stop at okay, I'veawakened, so now I can just sit
back and relax.
Yeah, I made that mistake anumber of years ago.
Surprise! That's not the way itworks.
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So now my job is to work withouter planet practitioners, the
ones who are highly sensitive,the ones who are deep thinkers,
the ones who know that they aredifferent and that they are here
to do it differently.
And they know that they'vealready moved past being the
general practitioner, and theyknow that they are here to be
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working with a very specifictype of person in a very
specific type of way, and theyknow there is a next step to
their journey of what they'redoing with their life's work,
because they know that they'rehere to making to make an
impact.
They know that they're here todo meaningful work that's not
only sat successful butsatisfying.
And I help them see that nextstep clearly.
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I help them understand exactlywho they're here for now,
especially since they've grownand evolved.
I help them understand how toread their own inner knowing to
a level deeper than they've everhad before, because you have
the answers within you.
And I help you see andunderstand and translate it and
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trust it.
And I help you figure out howto wield the gifts that come
with being an outer planetperson, because there are huge
gifts that can feel confusing ifyou don't know how to work with
them.
And when you do know how towork with them and you use them
with the right fit person whothey are meant for, that's when
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magic happens that seems to defyall logic.
So if you're picking up whatI'm putting down, reach out.
We'll chat to see if we'realigned.
I always want to make sure thatthe people that I'm working
with resonate, that we are aright fit because that is when
the magic happens.
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Right?
I act like a tuning fork thathelps to activate you so that
you can then go off and be thetuning fork that activates the
people that you're meant to beactivating.
That's the way it works.
So I have a few different waysto work with me.
If that interests you, I havethe soul purpose lab, and this
is where we get crystal clear onwho you are designed to work
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with and how, what you're hereto actually be leading now.
What's the next step in yourevolution of your work?
And what is that next step?
That's the soul purpose lab.
The evolution lab is okay, sonow you've gotten clear.
Is there anything holding youback from it?
Right?
Are there any fears?
Are there any, you know,limiting beliefs?
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Is there any survival reflexes,right?
Like old people-pleasingbehaviors, old things that are
like preventing you fromactually saying what you know
you want to say.
We clear those from theunconscious mind and we upgrade
your inner operating system andset your whole system up, your
nervous system, your unconsciousmind, your whole inner
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operating system to increaseyour capacity to hold what's on
the other side of your nextlevel.
Because with more success, withmore light, with more
greatness, with more all thethings that you know you're
stepping into, comes theopposite side of the coin.
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More shadow, more darkness,more challenge.
And all of those things are thethings for you to integrate,
and those are the things thatcreate the friction for you to
step into your greatness.
And all of that will happenwith much more flow if you can
expand your capacity.
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And so we do that in EvolutionLab, and then we spend some time
getting clear on now thatyou've done that, now let's talk
about the next steps and moveyou through them into the next
phase of your work.
And then there's legacy lab.
That's the nine-month journeythat includes everything that
I've mentioned.
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And then we take the time tomove through actually
establishing that next levelbody of work that becomes your
legacy, that you're known for inyour industry, that you create
that impactful change that youknow that you're here for.
I help you create that in a waythat will continue to evolve as
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you evolve, because when you'rean outer planet person, you
can't just stay in the sameplace.
It's it's like it doesn't workfor you.
And what I had to realize formyself and my own work is you
need to set this body of work upso that it continues to evolve
as you do, because the person,you know, a year, two years,
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five years from now, the entrypoint of that person is not
going to be the same entry pointas they are now.
It will evolve as you do, itwill grow and expand as you do,
right?
The people who are entering myworld now are not at the same
level they were a year ago, fiveyears ago, ten years ago.
And I've come to realize thatthat's actually necessary.
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So we get clear on that.
We set up your work that way sothat it does continue to
evolve.
And we work through all the upsand downs as life life as you
establish all of this andcontinue to grow your capacity
and continue to upgrade youroperating system as you continue
to evolve so that you could beoperating from your highest
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potential and fullest potentialon the other side.
And this is what lights me up.
It energizes me and it makesme, it's, you know, it's I've
come to this realization thatworking with the right fit
person, it's not draining atall.
It's energizing, it'sinspirational, and it also helps
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me continue to grow and evolve.
So I ended up going in acompletely different direction,
and I feel like this is animportant message.
If you're listening to this, Ihope that this was insightful in
some way.
And reach out whether or notyou want to explore any of these
labs, or if you want to let meknow how this landed for you.
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I would love, I love to hearhow other people are taking this
in for themselves.
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