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November 5, 2025 62 mins

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This isn’t another Human Design 101. In this profound and provocative conversation, Melissa flips the mic toward Jessica Rose—Inner Rebel co-host, Human Design expert, and Deconditioning Coach—to explore beyond the buzzwords of Human Design and into the transformative—and often confronting—work of living it. What follows is a deep excavation of identity and illusion: how deconditioning means confronting the stories you’ve believed about who you are.

From the stories we tell ourselves to the ones shaping the world, Jess and Melissa explore how deconditioning isn’t just personal work—it’s how we dismantle the collective fictions that fuel everything from self-abandonment to global conflict. They illuminate how trusting the body over the mind becomes the ultimate rebellion in a world addicted to certainty, how following your “joy breadcrumbs” leads you home to purpose, and how our greatest fears aren’t obstacles but doorways into who we’re becoming. Intimate, philosophical, and fiercely honest, this episode is a masterclass in the art of waking up.

Topics Covered

  • The true purpose of Human Design
  • What “deconditioning” actually means and asks of us
  • The radical rebellion of listening to your body over your mind
  • How to recognize the difference between your body's actual YES and the guilt-driven yes you've been conditioned to give
  • Why we “agree to be crazy together”: exploring the collective fictions that shape our lives
  • The shadows and gifts in your chart (and why your biggest fears are actually portals to your genius)
  • The illusion of control and the cultural addiction to certainty
  • The reason why “following your strategy and authority” will change your life
  • The radical act of following your body’s yes and no in a world that glorifies over-efforting
  • The importance of Human Design in team dynamics

To Connect with Jess:
To book a Human Design reading or dive deeper into deconditioning work, visit bydesignwithjess.com or follow Jess on Instagram at @bydesignwithjess.

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