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Three-hour airport lines in Europe, a Category 5 bullseye in the Caribbean, and cruise lines racing to out-innovate each other — travel is changing fast, and we’re turning the noise into a plan. We unpack the EU’s new entry-exit system with on-the-ground realities from week one, why kiosks failed in some airports, and how to avoid the worst of the delays while the rollout stabilizes. Then we head to Jamaica, where a decisive December 15 target for full tourism operations shows an island pushing hard to welcome guests again. If you’re eyeing winter sun, we break down what’s opening, what’s still pending, and how to keep your options flexible.

Holiday seekers get a timely detour to Germany’s Christmas markets. We compare Nuremberg’s storied sprawl with Cologne’s dramatic cathedral backdrop and highlight Heidelberg’s intimate square for travelers who like smaller, cozier scenes. From there, we fast-forward to 2026 planning: Jasper’s quieter Rockies, Fiji’s culture-rich adventures and river safaris, Oulu’s Air Guitar World Championship energy, plus curveballs like Adelaide and Vienna for food, music, and palaces. It’s early-bird planning with purpose, zero fluff.

The cruise segment is stacked. MSC is exploring a four-ship class that could eclipse Royal Caribbean’s Icon class in size and capacity, signaling major competition on price and experience. Royal Caribbean extends its beach club strategy to Santorini to counter crowd fatigue with guaranteed loungers, pools, and easy access to the island’s views. Viking hits a 100-ship milestone and doubles down on river cruising growth, nudging lines toward new ports and quieter towns. And yes — the deals are real: Fiji airfare from major U.S. gateways starts at $798 with Australia add-ons and free stopovers, while select Viking river sailings include free airfare, reduced fares, and limited low deposits.

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Patrick Wiscombe (00:00):
It is the Inside Travel Talk podcast, a
radio show, coming up in thenext 30 minutes.
Mark and I will be talkingabout a four-ship fleet of the
world's largest cruise vesselsfrom MSC, a new Royal Beach Club
coming to Santorini, Greece.
Viking reaches a 100-shipmilestone, Jamaica's Category 5

(00:22):
hurricane bounce back plans andthree hour lines.
Yikes.
Let's start the show.
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(00:43):
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Explore your world.
It's the Inside Travel TalkPodcast and Radio Show,
presented by Blue PlanetVacations.com.
Call or text the show now.
801-649-3700.
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And check out the podcast atInsidetrav.com.
And now, here are your hosts,Patrick Wiscombe and Mark

(01:14):
Faldmo.

Patrick Wiscombe (01:25):
Welcome to the Inside Travel Talk Podcast, a
radio show.
Hello there, I am PatrickWiscombe.
The entire purpose of thisradio show and podcast is to
help you plan and book your nextvacation, or just give you
ideas of me you want to go onvacation next, and we are
presented, proudly presented, byBluePlanetVacations.com, a Mark

(01:48):
Faldmo company, who is back inSalt Lake City right now, taking
care of all of the engineeringduties to get us on the air this
week.
And just a sincere thank youfor taking the time to stop and
listen.
And this week we are talkingabout a four-ship fleet.
I have to say that verycarefully.
Of the world's largest cruisevessels from MSC cruises, Viking

(02:12):
reaches a 100-ship milestone.
And after just massivedevastation on uh Jamaica's
island, the Category 5, what wasit?
Was that Hurricane Aaron?
Melissa.

Mark Faldmo (02:24):
Melissa Melissa.

Patrick Wiscombe (02:26):
Category 5 hurricane just absolutely
decimated that island.
But they do have some bounceback plans.
So that's just a handful of theitems that we're going to be
talking about on today's InsideTravel Talk podcast or radio
show.
Let's get to the travel duesheadlines.
Let's start with the three-hourcues.
And believe it or not, this hasnothing to do with the

(02:47):
government shutdown.
We're talking three-hour cuesin the EU, the EU entry and exit
system, week one.
There are only three countriesready, but Brussels is seeing a
three-hour line.
That's crazy.
And we've been talking aboutthis entry-exit system for it
feels like two years at thispoint.

Mark Faldmo (03:05):
Yeah, there's two different parts.
Um, there's the entry-exitsystem, and then there's the
ETIAS, Electronic TransportationEntry Authority, something like
that, which is different.
And they've been plagued withtechnical issues, so that's
pushback.
But Europe did decide to gothrough with this entry and exit
system, which is where you scanyour passport, takes biometric

(03:28):
information, fingerprint, andthen when you leave, you do the
same thing.
You scan your fingerprint onthe way out so they can keep
track of who's entered andexited the EU.
This launched about three weeksago, but uh in the first 10
days, they were experiencingthree-hour lines, Luxembourg,
90-minute delays, airportsunprepared, travelers

(03:51):
unprepared, things just didn'twork.
In fact, in Prague, all of thekiosk completely failed, so they
had to move everybody over tomanual.
And so that's what was takinglong.
It is getting better, and moreand more countries are coming
on, but this is just something Ithink the EU wanted to do.
They delayed and delayed anddelayed and fitted out too soon.

Patrick Wiscombe (04:13):
And now everyone else is delayed.
Hurricane Melissa hit Jamaica.
I mean, just dead on bullseye.
Category five storm.
I saw a report that winds didreach over 200 miles an hour,
which is just crazy to me.

Mark Faldmo (04:28):
It is, yeah, and just devastating for the island.
But one thing where Jamaicarelies so heavily on tourism,
they do have plans in place,probably not for what they
experienced, because that was adirect hit by a huge storm, but
they do plan to have fullindustry operation by December

(04:49):
15th.

Patrick Wiscombe (04:50):
Which is genuinely impressive.
I said six weeks.
That's five weeks from rightnow.

Mark Faldmo (04:54):
Yeah.
I've seen several things.
Some airports are starting toopen.
I've seen some hotels startingto open and some hotels saying
they're not taking any newreservations until they get a
little bit more certain in theirsituation.
But the island as a whole, forat least the tourism
infrastructure, plans to betotally operational by December

(05:15):
15th.
I love Jamaica.
One of my favorite places tovisit in the Caribbean.
The food is good, the peopleare nice.
It's just a great, great placeto visit.

Patrick Wiscombe (05:26):
You've been to Germany and their Christmas
markets, so I just want to posethe question: Nuremberg or
Cologne?
Which has the best Christmasmarket in Germany?

Mark Faldmo (05:35):
I thought this would be fun just a little bit
before Christmas.
There still is time if you wantto go visit those.
They did start this week on theChristmas markets.
Oh, they did.
They run through anywherebetween January 1st and January
4th in most cases.
But this is the usually the bigquestion.
Nuremberg or Cologne.
Nuremberg is the most famous,um, probably the largest, and it

(06:02):
is the oldest.
It's it's been operating fornearly 500 years.
That's probably the one that Iwould choose if I had to choose
these two.
Although the cathedralChristmas market in Cologne is
amazing.
You know, to be there in thatsetting.
If you if you've never seen thecathedral at Cologne, it's

(06:23):
amazing.
It hasn't been clean, so it'sit's black.
I thought it was just designedthat way.

Patrick Wiscombe (06:28):
I didn't even think about from a dirt
standpoint.

Mark Faldmo (06:31):
Yeah, no, it it's just dirty, but it fit.
I mean it's awesome.
Not dirty in a bad way.
It's it's an awesome thing.
And yeah, you know, one thingthat I I like about Christmas
markets in a very loose way, Ikind of compare them to state
like the state fairs here in theUS.
Really good, interesting foodis you know, what you get at

(06:53):
Christmas markets.
So um as often does oursegments turn it into food for
me.
Um I'm hungry too.
And another one that is notoften talked about in these of
the best, Heidelberg.
I like the Christmas market atHeidelberg because it's smaller
and the setting of it in thetown square is just amazing.

(07:16):
It's a great setting.
So every city in Germany has aChristmas market and they're all
worth visiting.
Really good way to get in andsee local culture.

Patrick Wiscombe (07:28):
Let's get to the destination of the week,
which is kind of broad.
Some of the best places totravel in 2026.
What places are on the list?

Mark Faldmo (07:38):
This was a list from Fromers, which is a great
travel publication and guide.
So I'm not gonna go through allof them, but these are the best
places according to surveys in2026.
The first one on the list isJasper in Canada, so Alberta.
Yes, and you know, thoseCanadian Rockies are so

(08:01):
awe-inspiring and magnificent.

Patrick Wiscombe (08:03):
We have great mountains in Utah, but there's
something about the ruggednessin Canada, the Tetons.
It's just a little different.

Show Voice (08:12):
Yeah, very majestic.

Mark Faldmo (08:14):
And you know, one reason why this is on the list,
you know, in 2024 they had a bigfire that ran right through
Jasper, and they're all backopened up, but they're kind of
not seeing the tourism numbers,which means this is a great time
to go see this area andexperience it with lower travel
numbers.
You know, we often talk aboutthe Rocky Mountaineer, you know,

(08:38):
that usually runs fromVancouver to Jasper or Banff.
Banff is great too.
Yeah, and now they have a trainthat just goes between Jasper
and Banff.
It just stays in that area.
Yeah.
And and that again is kind ofdue to that fire.
They're trying to get touristsback in there.
Since they're less tourists,they can do some of these unique

(08:59):
things with some of thesetrips.
The next place on the list,great place in the Pacific
Ocean, is Fiji.
Oh wow.
Uh we do we talk about Fiji alot.
Movies like Castaway, BlueLagoon, TV shows like Survivor,
which has been filmed there acouple of times, I believe.
Fiji is just a great place tovisit, good hotels.

(09:22):
I'm actually working on a tripfor someone right now to Fiji,
and they're so excited for it.
Oh, yeah.
Um, you know, uh especially theSigatoka riverboat jet safari.
Oh, did you recommend that tothem?
I did.
Oh, well done.
That's great.
You know, that's something thatwas brought from New Zealand
and it works perfect in Fijiwhere you go up the river pretty

(09:44):
far, and then you get off andyou walk into a local village
that still has a chief and youexperience that Fijian culture.
Fiji is a great place to visit.
Another place on the list, andthis one I want to visit just
because of a festival they have.
It's Ulu, Finland.
Say Ulu, Finland.
It's O-U-L-U.
Oh, yeah.

Patrick Wiscombe (10:05):
Okay.

Mark Faldmo (10:06):
And it's uh a quirky little town, Arctic
Circle adjacent, so not quite inthe Arctic Circle.
It has hosted the Air GuitarWorld Championship since 1996.
I would totally go do that.
So um the the picture they haveon this article is a bunch of
people air guitaring.
So the further north you get,as we've talked about Finland,

(10:31):
Sweden, Norway, even in Alaska,the scenery changes and the
landscape, it's almostindescribable.
Every year the EU designatestwo cities, the European
capitals of culture, and thisyear, Ulu, Finland is one of
those two cities, the Europeancapital of culture for this

(10:52):
year.
Give me two more places thatare on the list, Mark.
Okay, another place is uhAdelaide, Australia.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Most people know Sydney andMelbourne.
Adelaide's a little bit out ofthe way.
Vienna, Austria.
The way I've mainly visitVienna is on a river cruise.
But I've also gone there byland and just a really compact

(11:12):
downtown area, lots of culturethere to see the stallions uh in
Vienna is something that peoplereally want to go see.
Schonbrunn Palace, which isamazing.
I actually was lucky.
I got invited to an event atSchonbrunn Palace, uh, which was
just a small group of peoplewith a private concert.
Oh, that would have been cool.

(11:33):
So you can do things like thatthere, and you know, just lots
of fascinating places to visit.

Patrick Wiscombe (11:39):
Before we take a break, let's get to the
travel deal of the week, whichis Fiji.
And we have a travel dealspecifically for our listeners.
And it includes is is this freeairfare?

Mark Faldmo (11:55):
Uh no, or is it just the airfare?
It's it's an airfare special.
Oh okay.
Um, so right now from LosAngeles, San Francisco, or
Dallas, flights to Fiji start at$798 per person.
Wow, that's good.
About $200 lower than normal.
But if you did want to go toanother place from again Los

(12:18):
Angeles, San Francisco, orDallas, connecting through Fiji,
you can get to Sydney,Melbourne, or Brisbane for $999
per person.
Wow.
And you can get a free stopoverin Fiji.
So how long is that good for?
That is good right now throughum the end of November.
It'll probably be extended alittle bit, but right now, the

(12:42):
end of November.

Patrick Wiscombe (12:43):
Oh my goodness.

Mark Faldmo (12:44):
Take advantage of that one.
Yeah, and then with those, um,you know, bundle that with a
hotel package, and you can saveeven more.

Patrick Wiscombe (12:52):
Oh my goodness.
Take advantage of that one.
I'll just say drop if you'veever wanted to go to Australia
or Fiji for that matter.
Get on the phone, just get theconversation started.
There's no obligation.
Talk to Mark.
888-718-7717.
888-718-7717.

(13:16):
And he will also post this onBlue PlanetVacations.com.
Man, that's awesome.
Coming up in the next segment,it is the infamous Just Cruising
segment, the segment of theshow that has made us famous
here in the United States andaround the world.
We'll be talking about MST'sfour-ship fleet, the world's

(13:37):
largest cruise vessels, and ofcourse, we've got the cruise
deal of the week with freeairfare.
That's next when the InsideTravel Talk Podcast radio show
continues.
Alongside Mark Faldmo, I amPatrick Wiscombe.
Thank you so much for allowingthis to be part of your weekend.
We will be back.
Give us about 60 seconds.
Thanks for listening.

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Here's Patrick Wiscombe andMark Faldmo.

Patrick Wiscombe (15:44):
Hello there.
My name is Patrick Wiscombe,and may I greet everyone aboard.
Ahoy, Matees.
This is the infamous justcruising segment, the segment of
the show that has made usfamous around the country and
around the world.
This week we are talking aboutMST's four-ship fleet of the

(16:07):
world's largest cruise vessels,and of course, we've got the
cruise deal of the week, VikingRiver Cruises deal with free
airfare.
We'll get to that here in justa second.
But let's first get to thecruise news headlines.
In fact, Mark, let's just startthere.
Let's start with MSC cruisesconsidering building a four-ship

(16:27):
fleet of the world's largestcruise vessels.
Okay, so if that's true, thecurrent reigning ships of
gargantuan size are icon of theseas and currently star of the
seas, which is icon of the seaspart two.
So if that's true, that's whatthey're aiming for, and it will

(16:49):
probably be larger than that ifthis really happens.

Mark Faldmo (16:52):
Yeah, and so they're considering this.
They're in discussions with theshipyard in Finland to
construct these ships.
It would by far surpass RealCaribbean's icon class ships in
both volume, gross tonnage, andpassenger capacity.
Each ship is proposed tomeasure 365 meters in length and

(17:12):
reach 265,000 gross tons, whichexceeds icon, which is 250,000
gross tons.
That is actually one Titaniclarger.
That's the difference in theship of Titanic larger from icon
to this new class.
Oh my goodness.
And we've talked about thisabout MSc, and I think in two

(17:34):
weeks we're gonna have Laura onfrom MSc.
Maybe she can address this aswell.
MSC is the only cruise linethat is privately held.
Yeah.
And so they can do whatever theywant.
That's why you see reasonablefares, some of the lowest fares
out there, because they're notbeholden to a board of directors
where they need to show profit.
Now they are making profit, butthey they don't have to show it

(17:58):
to shareholders.

Patrick Wiscombe (17:59):
That could be a serious undercutting of Royal
Caribbean, because they chargepremium amounts of money.
I won't say Disney type premiumamount of money for cruises,
but kind of in that range whereyou pay a ton for those newer,
bigger ships.

Mark Faldmo (18:16):
If you look at the long two ships that came out
about the same time, the uh Starof the Seas and MSE's World
America, I think they both cameout within about two months of
each other.
World America was still apretty hefty price tag, but it
was nearly 30 to 40 percent lessthan what Royal Caribbean was
charging for a brand new ship.

Patrick Wiscombe (18:35):
I think that that is the competitive
advantage.
Now, assuming that they candeliver on an icon of the seas
type experience for half theprice, that's gonna put a whale
of a dent in Royal Caribbean.

Mark Faldmo (18:47):
We'll see where that goes.
Cruise lines are alwaysbuilding things bigger and
newer, but no one's really everkept pace with Royal Caribbean
as far as size goes.

Patrick Wiscombe (18:57):
Royal Caribbean, speaking of them,
announces plans for a RoyalCaribbean beach club in
Santorini, Greece.
I'm becoming a big fan of thesebeach clubs.

Mark Faldmo (19:07):
They kind of started with this concept at
Perfect Day at Coco Kay, whichwas their private island.
They rebranded that lastsummer, last summer, I guess
that was just a few weeks agofor last summer.
Um, but they opened up theirbeach club in Nassau, Bahamas.
They've announced one inMexico, and then somewhere in

(19:28):
Australia, I can't remember inAustralia, and now they're going
to Greece.
It's gonna be that same conceptof a beach club, which if
you've heard my stories ofSantorini, beautiful place, but
there's way too many people.
Yeah.
If there's a lot of cruiseships in there, if you can get
to like the Royal Beach Clubwhere you have a little bit more

(19:50):
laid-back experience, you canstill experience and see
Santorini, hopefully without thecrowds.

Patrick Wiscombe (19:57):
I love these beach clubs.
That might be the secret weaponin a lot of these cruise ship
companies.

Mark Faldmo (20:02):
When Norwegian first started their private
island, which was the first oneever, people said that'll never
fly.
No one wants to go to a privateisland in the Bahamas, and
everyone's puttingmulti-millions of dollars into
their beach clubs because andtheir private destinations
because that is what people wantto go see.

Patrick Wiscombe (20:19):
I'm blanking on the name of Norwegian cruise
lines private beach.
I've been there, it was therein April.
Yeah, great Starp Key.
They're investing millions ofdollars right now for a beach
club there as well.
It's not going to be just theisland with oceans coming, it's
gonna be full-on pool experienceas well.

Mark Faldmo (20:37):
It is, it'll be the largest swimming pool in the
Caribbean when it's done.

Patrick Wiscombe (20:40):
I love competition, it just drives
everyone to get better.
Speaking of reaching amilestone, Viking has reached a
100-ship fleet after naming ninenew long ships.
This is a big deal.

Mark Faldmo (20:54):
I've always watched Viking and they never name just
one ship at a time.
They have a day where they namemultiple ships at one time.
That's just how fast rivercruising is growing.
Viking started in 1907 withfour river ships.
Now they just named theirhundredth ship, which consists
of 88 river ships and 12 oceanships.

(21:18):
Of those ocean ships, uh, twoof those are expedition ships.
Viking is just growing, andtheir CEO, Torsten, I've had
dinner with him.
He's a nice Norwegian man.
Uh very, very interestingdiscussions with him about the
growth of river cruise companiesand all of that.
But he says in this article, wejust have to build to meet the

(21:41):
demand.

Patrick Wiscombe (21:42):
Oh, wow.

Mark Faldmo (21:43):
By 2030, four years from now, they're expecting to
add 31 new river ships, and by2033, as many as 14 more ocean
going ships.
So that is the demand thatViking is seeing for ocean and
then kind of their small luxurytype ocean going ships.
Celebrities are new into themarket.

(22:05):
Ama Waterways is building moreships, Avalon Waterways is
building more ships.
There is just a huge demand forriver ships.
One thing I've always likedabout river cruising is you do
go to these smaller towns andvillages.
I think with the number ofriver ships that are coming,
they're really gonna have todiversify, and we'll see lots of

(22:25):
new and interesting ports,other smaller towns and villages
that want their piece of that.
Oh, yeah.
You know, so I think it'sreally gonna open up a lot of
great ports and uniqueopportunities to visit Europe.

Patrick Wiscombe (22:39):
Let's get to the cruise deal of the week,
which is always in this segmentof the show.
We are talking Viking Rivercruise deal, but it includes
free airfare.
What are the details?

Mark Faldmo (22:49):
First off, we'll start.
This expires November 30th.
Um, about three weeks fromtoday.
Yeah, you gotta move.
It's free airfare on selectsailings with reduced cabin
fares and also several sailingsyou can get for just a $25 per
person deposit.
Really?
The itineraries that have freeairfare, and the first one is

(23:13):
the Grand European Tour.
This is a 15-day river cruise.
It's the best of both worldsbecause you get both the Danube
and the Rhine in that 15 days.
Free airfare, $25 deposit, fourcountries, and the price on
that starts at $4499 for thelower season.
In the summer, it's gonna bemore than that, but that's the

(23:35):
lead-in price, $4499 with thefree airfare.
And then the other one that Ithink is great is pharaohs and
pyramids, so the Nile River.
Oh wow, same same thing, freeairfare, $25 deposit, 12 days,
11 different tours or stopsstarting at $6,000 per person.

(23:57):
And the other one, a lot ofpeople might not know this, but
Viking does also do theMississippi River.
They have an eight-day tourwith free airfare starting at
$4,000.

Patrick Wiscombe (24:09):
Where do you fly into for the uh Mississippi
River?

Mark Faldmo (24:13):
Um this particular cruise, it's the the Mississippi
Delta Explorer, which is NewOrleans to Memphis, Tennessee.
There are a few otheritineraries that have that free
airfare.
Other itineraries like the RyanGetaway, Danube Waltz, Romantic
Danube, um, those all havereduced airfares.
It's a great value right now togo with Viking.

Patrick Wiscombe (24:35):
That is a great deal.
We kind of hit some home runsthis week.
We did.
So anyone listening, any of ourlisteners, call Mark in the
office, just get theconversation started.
There's no obligation.
888-718-7717-888-718-7717.

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And he's also going to postthis on Blue
PlanetVacations.com.
Which, by the way, you've beenbusy on the website.
I have.
You've been making somechanges, so I have.
Yeah.
You can listen to this podcast,a radio show, again tomorrow
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Now it's your turn to get outand travel the world while you

(25:42):
can because you never know whatcurveballs life is going to
throw at you.
Live your life deliberately,live your life intentionally.
And a sincere thank you,really.
Thank you for taking the timeto stop and listen, and we hope
you have a great week.
We'll talk to you nextSaturday.

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Patrick Wiscombe (26:32):
We will not.
We're done for the week.
I played the wrong outro.
Yeah, clearly.
Have a great week, everyone.

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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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