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Mark Faldmo (00:53):
Welcome to this
week's Inside Travel Talk
Podcast and Radio Show.
Glad you're with us this week.
And we have an exciting showthis week.
We are going to talk aboutIreland, Africa safaris, and
river cruises in Europe.
Just like last week, Patrick isunable to be with us this week,
but uh we do have a great show.
We're able to pre-record a fewsegments, and so let's start off
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with African safaris, and thenwe'll move on to Ireland and get
the travel deal of the weekend.
Patrick Wiscombe (01:25):
You have been
on an African safari.
I think it was one time.
Yeah, I thought it was twice,but maybe one safari.
I would love to go.
I don't know anything aboutAfrica.
I think an African safari wouldbe absolutely amazing, but I
don't know where to stay.
I don't know aboutaccommodations.
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I don't know what we're goingto see, probably other than
we're out on the uh the planeand we're just observing
wildlife.
What was your experience andwhat is a typical itinerary?
Mark Faldmo (01:56):
I guess there's a
couple different ways and places
you can do a safari in.
You can do safaris in SouthAfrica and Kenya are the two
most popular places to do asafari in.
I would recommend Kenya.
That's the Serengeti.
There's a couple of differenttimes you can do that.
The most popular time is duringthe Great Migration.
Patrick Wiscombe (02:16):
That would be
fascinating.
Mark Faldmo (02:18):
The water buffalo.
Patrick Wiscombe (02:19):
What time of
the year is that?
Is that the fall or is that uhthe spring?
Mark Faldmo (02:22):
Yeah, Great
Migration is the end of August
into the middle of September.
Patrick Wiscombe (02:27):
What kind of
weather is there during the
migration?
Is it pretty hot still?
Mark Faldmo (02:32):
Yeah, it is
relatively hot, but not too bad.
The thing I like about the uhsafaris is when you get there,
um you can go to severaldifferent parks, like the
Masimara.
You can go to Wait, are theseparks?
Patrick Wiscombe (02:48):
They are.
Oh, I didn't know that.
I just assume that you justdrive out in the middle of
someplace and go take a look.
I didn't know they were parks.
Mark Faldmo (02:56):
No, they are um
parks set aside by the
government to protect theanimals.
You know, so there's oneSamburu, the Masimara, different
places like that where you cango, and each one has a little
special treat that they can giveyou.
Patrick Wiscombe (03:10):
What do you
mean a treat?
Mark Faldmo (03:12):
Different types of
wildlife.
Patrick Wiscombe (03:14):
Okay, we're
not talking like feed the lions.
Here's a treat.
No, it's just a differentexperience.
Nope, stay in your vehicle.
Mark Faldmo (03:21):
Different hands
inside.
Like in Samburu, um, the onething I noticed a lot was
giraffes.
Lots of giraffes, and that's asmaller park.
And then another one, um, OldPajeta is another place which is
famous for its rhinos.
Patrick Wiscombe (03:39):
What is it
called?
Pajeta?
Mark Faldmo (03:41):
Old Pajeta.
Old Pajeta.
Old Pajeta.
Okay.
Each one just has its kind ofspecialties.
Then you have the Serengeti andMasimara, which is really where
the great migration takesplace.
Patrick Wiscombe (03:54):
You go to
these different places
throughout your particularsafari that you go on.
Mark Faldmo (03:59):
So you stay in
different lodges, tent camps,
they're luxury tent camps.
Patrick Wiscombe (04:04):
Oh.
Mark Faldmo (04:04):
Um, you know, with
it.
With beds and everything.
Patrick Wiscombe (04:07):
Oh, I'm really
on board now.
Mark Faldmo (04:09):
But then they are
tents, and so you know, it's
pretty interesting.
The thing I like about that isyou ha usually have an early
morning game drive.
So you wake up early, go outand see that, then you come back
for lunch, and then there's anoption for an afternoon game
drive if you want to do that,which you'll see different
animals out.
If you're too tired, you canstay back and relax at the nice
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lodges.
But you do get a good chance tosee all of the animals, you
know, kind of the big five thatthey're always talking about the
elephants, the rhinos, lions,lions, water buffalo, giraffes,
giraffes, possibly zebra.
It's just a great experience.
You get right up in personalwith a lot of the animals.
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Like I remember once we justparked on a road and just a herd
of elephants walk right p pastus.
Patrick Wiscombe (04:59):
That must have
been and they horrifying and
awesome at the same time.
Correct.
Yeah, yeah.
Because they could just tip youover.
Mark Faldmo (05:06):
They could.
So you really get to see thoseanimals.
Quite amazing to see how theyinteract with each other.
You know, seeing the lions andcheetahs stalking prey.
You know, I did see a cheetahattempt to get a gazelle, but
did not get a gazelle.
And so, you know, there's justhow everything works down there
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is quite amazing.
How long is the safari?
So the safari is you can dothem shorter.
The one I did was a 12-daysafari.
Oh my goodness.
Patrick Wiscombe (05:38):
That doesn't
sound like it's long enough.
But were you ready to comehome?
Mark Faldmo (05:42):
No, I I could have
stayed there really for a long
time.
You know, one of my favoritethings that we did on the safari
is we stopped at this actuallytwice we did this, we stopped
and kind of had breakfast outwith the wildlife.
And one place was we stopped ona river where there are
hippopotamuses in the river.
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And you know, the sounds theymake and just to see that
happening was amazing.
You know, you're just rightthere, you know, a safe distance
away from those, but amazing tosee the animals.
Patrick Wiscombe (06:18):
And those
animals don't mess around.
No, they don't.
Let's get to the uh thedestination of the week, which
is always in this first segment.
And we're gonna be talkingabout Ireland's.
Was this a call that you took alittle bit earlier this week
from Jessica?
This was a call, yeah.
Okay.
Jessica wants to go to Ireland.
She says that she has seven toeight days, and she's asking,
what would you recommend, Mark?
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And when is the best time to goand where would you stay?
And what would you do?
Mark Faldmo (06:43):
What would you see?
I think the best time to go toIreland is in the fall.
Ireland in seven to eight days.
You can see that.
And here's what I'd recommendto do you fly to Dublin,
obviously, and spend two tothree nights in Dublin, and then
go to Killarney, which is downin the southwest area, and then
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spend two to three nights.
My favorite place is inDromoland Castle.
Its roots first started inabout 1015-ish or so, the year
1015.
The actual castle part that yousee today uh was built in the
1500s, so you can stay in thatold part of the castle, and then
there's a newer wing of it thatwas built in the 80s, I
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believe.
But it's just an amazing castleto stay in.
Patrick Wiscombe (07:30):
I like how
they say the newer wing was
built in the 80s, it's already40 plus years old.
Mark Faldmo (07:35):
Yep.
And you know, there's lots ofinteresting things you can do in
Ireland.
We don't have enough time to gothrough that.
We can go to Blarney Castle,kiss the Blarney Stone, which
when you kiss that, it's said togive you the gift of gab.
I probably need to do thatagain because I was probably
making out with it.
Yes, yeah, yeah, you can goWaterford Crystal, go to the
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woolen mills.
One of my favorite places isthe Dingle Peninsula, cliffs of
Moor.
There's so much to do and see,but what I like about Ireland is
that medieval love Dromolandcastle.
It's a five-star place that youstay at.
It's got a golf course, theyhave all sorts of things you'd
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kind of associate with castleslike archery and things like
that.
So Ireland is a wonderfulvacation.
You can also look at a littlebit longer vacation for Jessica.
You know, we looked at a globustour that was 10 days long, so
it's a little bit too long forwhat she wanted.
But you can do it in sevendays, seven to eight days if you
want to do that.
Patrick Wiscombe (08:39):
Are you a U2
fan?
Mark Faldmo (08:40):
Yes, I am.
Patrick Wiscombe (08:41):
You can go see
uh where Bono grew up.
Is Slang Castle in Ireland?
I think it is.
I think so.
Okay.
Take a picture in front ofBono's old place.
I guess post it and put at U2and say, hey, I'm at yes, I'm at
your house.
Mark Faldmo (08:55):
And Ireland is such
a great place to visit.
We've often talked on this showabout Globus tours.
We mentioned just a little bitin that segment.
And right now, Globus has adeal to save up to $500 per
person off the land price of oneof their tours, and that's to
Ireland for many of the toursthat they offer.
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This up to $500 off does needto be booked by November 8th.
So we're coming up pretty quickhere.
It is valid for Select ToursJanuary 1st of 2026 through the
end of 2026.
That's our first segment.
We'll be right back after ashort break and we'll talk about
uh Europe River cruises.
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Mark Faldmo (11:09):
Welcome back to the
second segment of Inside Travel
Talk Podcast and Radio Show.
In this segment, we are goingto talk about Europe River
cruises, particularly on AvalonWaterways, and then we'll give
you the cruise deal of the week,which does happen to be a
promotion on Avalon Waterways.
Earlier, uh Patrick and Irecorded an interview with TJ
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McAvoy from Avalon Waterways,and we'll get right into that
interview right now, and thenI'll be back with the deals for
Avalon Waterways.
Patrick Wiscombe (11:38):
We've had him
on the show before, and he's
making a triumphant return.
TJ McAvoy with AvalonWaterways.
It's good to have you back onthe show.
And it's good to see you too.
TJ McAvoy (11:48):
Yeah, you too.
Great to see you, Patrick.
I always appreciate your timeand have me on this uh great
show.
Patrick Wiscombe (11:52):
Let's talk
about Avalon Waterways.
Let's just go Avalon Waterways101.
What is Avalon Waterways?
TJ McAvoy (12:00):
So we're river
cruising.
We like to think of ourselvesas relaxed luxury.
It's got to be my favorite wayto travel.
Just think of a five-starfloating hotel with everything
you want (12:10):
food, excursions, you
name it.
Patrick Wiscombe (12:13):
You have
several competitors in the river
cruise market.
What sets Avalon apart fromyour competitors?
TJ McAvoy (12:20):
Cabins is where it
all starts.
So we have award-winning 200square foot panorama suites.
We win the awards from allthese publications, like five
years in a row, best rivercruise cabins for a cruise
critic.
We've gotten best river cruiseline and cabins through USA
Today's Reader's Choice Awardsthis year as well as previous
years.
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So definitely the cabins.
So the 200 square foot suitesare about 85% of our cabins.
So with the larger cabins, wehave fewer people on our ships.
So you're looking about 30 to50 fewer people on the ships,
which is a great for the onboardexperience.
Oh, yeah.
So that really yeah, thatreally separates us.
So we're gonna average about150 passengers.
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Our competitors are gonna havearound 190.
But that's by design on ourend, best cabins.
And then another staple ischoices.
So we offer choices, soexcursions.
This is really a big staple ofours because we have all the
connections through being alsopart of Globus, where we have
all the connections with all thelocal suppliers and vendors.
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So we we give you two to threechoices pretty much every time.
Every port for the excursions,the excursions are included.
Choices also go to the dining,which we call Panorama Bistro.
We do barbecue lunches on theSky Deck.
Um, or you can yes, we justhave various venues that way.
But we're gonna give youvarious choices on the cuisine
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as well.
We can satisfy any dietaryrestriction except for kosher.
So any dietary restriction,we're always gonna have
vegetarian or vegan options withevery meal.
Also, I think what reallyseparates us is the views.
So we really pride ourselves nomatter where you're on the
ship, you could see both sidesof the ship because you could be
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going down the Rhine and maybeyou're in the dining area, and
the other side of the ship iswhere all the castles are.
You could see 360-degree views,uh floor to ceiling windows
throughout the ship.
So I'd say those three thingscabins, choices, views, which
also if you're people on theship, is a huge difference.
Patrick Wiscombe (14:24):
Where does
Avalon waterways sail?
I know you're in Europe, butwhere else?
TJ McAvoy (14:29):
So we have 16 ships
in Europe.
We also have our own ship onthe Mekong.
So that's only 36 passengers.
Our ships in Europe are either128 passengers or 166.
We're also on the Doro, alsoEurope.
But then you did ask where elsewe sail.
So we have um a taste of Egypt.
So we have a cruise there, alsothe Galapagos Islands, on the
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Amazon, all those destinationswe're gonna have on Avalon.
Patrick Wiscombe (14:55):
So luxury
cruising on the Amazon through
the Amazon.
TJ McAvoy (14:58):
Correct.
Yes.
Yep, so we do have umitineraries on the Amazon, you
know, so it's all Avalon, butbut we do own our own ships in
Europe and on the Mekong, um,and then we charter ship on the
Amazon.
But we keep all the staples ofthe Avalon brand whenever we do
that on the exotic destinations.
Patrick Wiscombe (15:17):
What do you
recommend for first-time river
cruisers?
What do you recommend?
TJ McAvoy (15:23):
Just to kind of give
you an idea.
I started with Globus 22 yearsago, and I think we've had
Avalon going on 20 years.
So historically, this is prettymuch across the board for the
last 20 years.
First time cruisers either dothe Rhine or the Danube in
either order.
So those are typically gonna bethe first two that you do.
I personally I love them both,but my first cruise was the
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Danube, which was Budapest to uhNuremberg, but then you could
extend in Prague.
So I would recommend a couplenights in Prague at least on
land, do the seven-night cruiseand do extra time in Prague.
And then if you're doing theRhine, spend extra time in
Amsterdam.
So I'd say one of those two,and then whichever one you don't
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pick first, you do that second.
Patrick Wiscombe (16:09):
Can you go
back to back?
TJ McAvoy (16:10):
Yeah, so actually,
majority of our cruises are
really going to be seven-nightcruises.
But what we do, like if youhave a 14-night cruise, we have
one called the MagnificentEurope.
It's a back-to-back of ourromantic Rhine cruise and our
legendary Danube cruise, sold asone itinerary, so that's back
to back.
We also have in France, we haveum the Seine, which is northern
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France, and then the Rhone,which is going down into
southern France.
Those are each seven-nightcruises.
We build that as a 14-nightcruise as one cruise, and now
we're on the Bordeaux, so youcan do a back-to-back to back.
So a 21-night cruise.
We already built those in foryou, so it's it's very, very
seamless.
Patrick Wiscombe (16:50):
I asked that
question because I've done four
cruises consecutively with uhabout three days off in between
all of them.
TJ McAvoy (16:58):
And it was oh, yeah,
exactly.
Yeah, because a lot of times wehave like maybe a day in
between.
That's great.
Patrick Wiscombe (17:04):
Give us your
top three to five cruises that
you just go, just do it.
Do it.
I recommend it to anybody.
TJ McAvoy (17:10):
So I've done the
Danube like four times.
It's the first one by choice,and then the fourth one by
choice.
The other two times they had mehosting.
I had to go work on a on acruise to host some people.
It was so rough, but amazing.
Yeah.
So the Danube was fantastic.
And then the Rhine.
So I really want to do theRhine again because I did our
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active and discovery uh rivercruise on the Rhine.
I would love to do the Rhineagain.
So those two.
Also, what is getting verypopular is um the Lower Danube.
So that's Budapest toBucharest.
And the reason that intriguesme so much is I become good
friends with one of our cruisedirectors that's been with the
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Globus family for 40 years, andhe's been a cruise director on
Avalon since we started 20 yearsago, and that's his favorite
river to cruise, the LowerDanube, Budapest to Bucharest or
reverse.
Also, I just spent time with atour director that I was doing
travel shows with, and he's beenon Avalon as well, and he said
that was his favorite cruise.
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So I would say the Rhine, theDanube, and then the Lower
Danube.
Mark Faldmo (18:16):
That's my favorite
river cruise as well.
I've had the opportunity to dothat.
It's a fantastic itinerary todo that Budapest Bucharest.
My favorite part of that lowerDanube is sailing through it's
called the Iron Gates.
There's a big head carved intothe mountain.
Um, not like Mount Rushmore,but it's just a fantastic area
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of that part of the Danube.
Patrick Wiscombe (18:40):
We've already
talked about the cabins, 200
square feet, beautiful cabins.
What makes the cabins great?
TJ McAvoy (18:46):
What's really
fantastic about our cabins is we
don't have a separate balcony.
So separate balconies thatclose off to the room are really
worthless, honestly, becauseyou can't sit out there
comfortably.
So we bring all that livingspace back.
So you truly do have 200 squarefeet of living space.
I like to think of it as yourcabin's your balcony, your
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balcony's your cabin.
So when that wall of glassopens up, you have seven feet.
So it truly is your balcony.
I recently went on a rivercruise.
We we buddied up with some ofthe Kiwis, some of the New
Zealand folks, and we would meetup and have snacks and hang out
before dinner, and it's plentyof room, so it really gives you
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so much more room.
Another big staple when we onour build, we act actually angle
the wall between the bed andthe bathroom.
The bathrooms are by far thebiggest I've seen on big ship
cruising and river cruising,because I've been on both
numerous times.
Um, but the bathrooms, the bedsfacing out, so you're always
looking at the view.
100% the most hold on.
Patrick Wiscombe (19:51):
The beds are
facing, I guess, the window, the
floor to ceiling window.
TJ McAvoy (19:57):
Yes, absolutely.
So we're the only yeah, so ohyeah, just picture this.
So you're cruising down theRhine, you're in your balcony,
and you're also in your cabin,you're laying down, you're
watching all the castles andbeautiful scenery go by.
It's fantastic.
Mark Faldmo (20:13):
I think by far it's
the best cabin layout of any
cruise that I've been on.
I love as you know, TJ justmentioned, being able to lay in
the bed and look out at thescenery as you cruise past it.
That sounds delightful.
TJ McAvoy (20:27):
It's truly
unforgettable.
I mean, as you go through life,there's certain things that are
like pictures in your head thatyou'll never forget.
And many of those, I mean,there's so many of those times
cruising on Avalon, just layingthere and watching the beautiful
scenery go by.
Patrick Wiscombe (20:41):
Do you ever
have a hard time getting up
going, it's so beautiful, Idon't even want to get up.
TJ McAvoy (20:45):
Exactly.
Well, the great thing aboutriver cruising, though, is the
ships are small.
So, I mean, you could be up andget a snack within a few feet,
but yes, that is true.
I've gotten a little bit lazyand stayed in my room a little
bit too long a few times to justenjoy that scenery.
Patrick Wiscombe (21:01):
There's a
perception out in the industry
that river cruising is for theold folks or the older folks.
What about river cruising formulti-generational families?
So, you know, grandpas,parents, kids.
Is there enough to do for kidson these types of cruises?
TJ McAvoy (21:18):
Younger kids probably
not gonna have a great time.
So older teenagers andmulti-generational, I see that
quite often.
So I've done two of our what wecall them as our active and
discovery cruises.
So we have our classic cruises,and then our active and
discovery are more focused onactivist excursions or very
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immersive off-the-beaten pathtype excursions.
So you either have like hiking,biking, canoeing, or you have
painting classes, cookingclasses, vendor vineyard tours.
You actually can visit a localfarmer where you could where you
enjoy a meal on their property.
Um, so very immersive.
And then so we're focusing moreon those, and we're on all the
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rivers with our active indiscovery.
So we're getting a lot ofmulti-gen.
I would say younger kids,probably not a lot to do, but
older teenagers, parents,grandparents, we're seeing a lot
of that on our active indiscovery.
Patrick Wiscombe (22:16):
Let's talk
about Christmas cruises.
TJ McAvoy (22:19):
Our Christmas time
cruises are they sell out right
away.
So if you're looking to get ona Christmas time cruise, book
those well in advance.
So I've been with the companysince we started Avalon.
And the first few seasons, thatwas one of the last things to
sell, but after that, peoplewere getting sh you know, it
was getting more and morepopular.
So now basically our Christmascruises are selling out very,
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very quickly.
The Christmas markets, it'samazing.
It's a great time to traveltoo, because you get to see all
the beauty of the festiveseason, and it's great for
multi-generational families.
We're already have everythingopen for 26 as well.
They're so popular.
I just spoke with our presidentof Avalon Waterways, Pam Hoffe.
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Uh I did an event with her, anduh we basically are gonna move
every ship that is done for theseason over to the Christmas
markets to create uh moreChristmas time cruises.
Oh, huge.
So even though we show us yeah,exactly.
So, what's gonna happen as weget closer to the Christmas
markets?
We're gonna open more and moresailings.
And that could sometimes berisky on, but it's never risky
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on the Christmas markets becausewe know they're gonna sell out.
So great for families if you'relooking, and people get more
time off during that time.
So no better way to travelduring the holiday season than a
Christmas time cruise.
Patrick Wiscombe (23:37):
As we start to
wrap up, what trends are you
seeing in river cruising rightnow?
TJ McAvoy (23:43):
It's been amazing
over the last few years.
I mean, the awareness now whenI started, I actually used to
book all of our charters in ourgroups department, and so I've
been involved in Avalon from thebeginning and the awareness
now.
So everywhere I go now, peopleknow about river cruising,
people want to do rivercruising, they want to
experience river cruising.
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Ten years ago, there wasn'tmuch awareness around it, but
now everybody knows thateverybody wants to do it.
Seeing a lot of first-timecruisers, and what I see a lot
is they go on Avalon and theyfall in love with their first
cruise, and then they just gofrom one river to another.
So I'm just saying once you uhgo on your first Avalon cruise,
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there's probably four to fivemore in your future.
Um and then, like we werementioning, the active and
discovery that's been great formulti-generational, and it's
great for families because it'smore active and immersive.
But then we also have themust-see sites, so just the
standard sightseeing city toursthat all the cruise lines do.
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Just the popularity is amazing.
So the river cruise lines arewe all do a great job, and we're
all selling really well.
Mark Faldmo (24:51):
Avalon Waterways is
one of my favorite Europe river
cruises.
Uh, they do such a good job, aswe talked about in the in that
interview, uh, the way thecabins are laid out and the
attention to detail that Avalonhas, particularly on the shore
excursions that they offer.
Right now, Avalon Waterways hasa free airfare to Europe
promotion.
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So if you book your rivercruise, you can choose to get
free airfare to Europe.
And that's you know one of thebest promotions out there uh for
river cruises.
And if you want to book aEurope River Cruise, just give
Blue Planet Vacations a call,888-718-7717.
And that will do it for thisweek's show.
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We'll be back next week withtravel tips, tricks, and
destination insights.
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