November 7, 2024 • 43 mins
In this reflective and raw episode, hosts Nele and Soph grapple with the shocking return of Donald Trump as president, sharing a visceral mix of exhaustion, frustration, and uncertainty. They delve into the emotions stirred by his re-election, discussing the struggle for progress, the polarization of the country, and the persistent social issues that echo through American history.
Nele and Soph openly question the motivations of voters, examine the dynamics of hate and division that fuel political outcomes, and lament the barriers women—especially women of color—face in seeking leadership roles. With moments of humor woven through their honest dialogue, they bring listeners a sobering reminder of the work yet to be done and the resilience needed to navigate an uncertain future. This episode, while heavy, calls listeners to stay engaged, emphasizing that even in the face of setbacks, change is always possible.
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Nele (00:00):
Hey y'all, and welcome to our podcast.
This is how it ends.
I'm Nels, I'm Soph, and we'rehere to talk about everything
from politics to conspiracytheories, to pop culture.
It's all here, girl talk, witha twist that you don't want to
miss.
So, unfortunately, we got toget into it because, y'all, we
(00:27):
got a new president-elect.
Well, not new, yeah, donaldTrump is our 47th president.
Soph (00:39):
I was not.
You know what.
How are you feeling about that,Janelle?
He's going to sip on your water.
You know what?
How are you?
Nele (00:46):
feeling about that?
Janelle, my first girl.
I just want to say that I onlygot two hours of sleep.
I'm drinking wine.
Might have smoked a littlesomething.
So, hopefully the words thatcome out of my mouth make sense.
I really thought that she wasgoing to win.
Honestly, I really did, but Ishould have known.
(01:10):
It's the same feeling I gotwatching Hillary, where I was
like, all right, I'm going toclose my eyes and in the morning
I'm going to hope for somethingbetter.
The whole time just hopingthere'd be a different outcome.
Time just hoping there'd be adifferent outcome and there
(01:33):
wasn't.
Just basically, when he tookPennsylvania, I was like it's a
wrap just it's a wrap.
Soph (01:39):
yeah, I um part of me knew that.
Like deep in my heart, I waslike I don't think so, because
remember how we were leadinginto his presidency and then,
when he won and how it wasduring his presidency, it was
like a lot of hate and all ofthese people came out of the
(02:01):
woodworks.
When you think about everythingthat went down in 2020, all of
that has intensified.
It hasn't gotten better, it'sgotten worse.
I didn't watch anything, so Ididn't scroll social media.
I just stayed off of everything.
(02:24):
So, you were punking out.
Nele (02:26):
So if you were punking, out.
You supposed to hang in therewe are battle buddies in this
and you were like absolutely not.
Soph (02:32):
I know I punked out.
I could not go through whathappened in 2016.
Like, I don't think my heartcould have taken it, so I had
some Jameson and ginger aroundfive o'clock.
By nine o'clock I was in bed.
When you text me, I did textyou, I was like this ain't good,
(02:53):
this ain't good.
And then I just knew, and thenFabian was checking my husband
was checking his.
I could see him around 4 a 4ambecause I couldn't really sleep.
But around 4am I saw him likelike he was on his phone and he
was, and it was for a minutebecause I couldn't really sleep
(03:14):
either.
I was like, yeah, he's probably.
He probably went to bedthinking it's going to be a
better outcome.
Nele (03:20):
He tried, but I mean by that time.
I don't know what time it wasexactly.
Again, I have no concept rightnow, but there was a time where
he was already like at 266.
She might have been at like 210at the time, but either when
they were waiting for like maybefour or five of the swing
(03:43):
states.
However, he only needed four toget to 270.
, like that's how you knew itwas a wrap and it just wasn't
even like it was.
It was close, but it was likeit shouldn't have been this
close.
I'm trying to understand.
Soph (04:04):
I'm surprised it wasn't closer, at least for her to be
closer we don't come through for.
Black women.
We don't come through for Blackwomen.
Nele (04:12):
We don't come through for women if Hillary couldn't get it
.
Soph (04:16):
That's my thing too, If Hillary can't get it she cares
Kamala.
Nele (04:25):
What she represented was just too much at the time.
Like it's a woman of color whodoesn't have biological children
, like it's just who'sattractive because, you know,
with women I definitely thinkmore women get more depending on
how attractive you are.
You get more smoke and jezebelsand all the stuff comes flying
(04:49):
out of people's mouths, you knowwhatever.
But um, yeah, I just felt likeit was just too.
And then tim waltz's ass likeoh, you know, it was just too
much, even though kamala tendsto lead more, like she's
actually more of a centrist andreally like leftist, like that
(05:09):
she is yeah, people said she's,you know they're like she wasn't
leftist enough, she wasn'tcentrist enough, like it's like
she had to be everything toeveryone and she can't like
democrats.
Soph (05:23):
Republicans are a monolith right.
They will, they will vote as ablock.
Democrats are not.
You know, like we do have thecentrists, we do have the um the
leftists, like we have theprogressives, you know, like she
can't be all things to everyoneand I think that's the problem
that.
Nele (05:39):
That is the problem.
Soph (05:40):
But now you have agent orange in office.
Nele (05:45):
Here's the thing.
First of all, you know whovoted.
I could be wrong, but you knowwho was out there just getting
their vote on.
Maybe I should say an Espanol,because definitely the Latino
men.
Soph (06:01):
They always vote Republican the.
Nele (06:03):
Latino men, but they showed out a little bit more.
And then also melanin deficientwomen.
I don't want to hear anything.
I don't want to hear anything.
Soph (06:16):
They didn't vote for Clinton, they were not about to
vote for Harris for Harris.
Nele (06:28):
But here's the here's.
I'm trying to understand.
Um, our Latinx followers,please help us out.
I'm trying to understand.
I'm trying to understand, like,how do you think this is going
to help you?
I know there's an aspiration tomelanin deficiency, but then
there's actual reality.
Like some of y'all, some ofsome of your primos and primas,
tios and tias might end up beinglike they're already talking
(06:50):
about it.
They're already talking abouthaving people like deported.
You know just, it might be someof your familia getting the
boots?
I don't understand he wanted tobuild a wall against, you know,
for mexicans, mexicans were likehell.
No, that was my mexican accent.
(07:10):
They were like hell.
No, we're not paying for thiswall, sir.
So he doesn't have a greattrack record with immigrants.
Soph (07:17):
I'm just very confused by this, two things they say about,
about that.
So, especially when it comes toFlorida and the Florida Cubans,
they painted Harris as likethis communist right, like she's
going to redistribute all thewealth, which she can't do.
That and she's not.
(07:38):
So they want nothing to do withthat because they fled a
country that was like that,which, whatever.
And the other thing is, a lotof them are like heavy Catholics
.
So that abortion thing, youknow that abortion thing, they
were stuck on that.
They don't care about nothingelse.
(07:58):
Religion first.
They probably sin their assesoff in every aspect of their
life, but when it comes togetting into women's business,
they care very deeply about that.
They care very deeply aboutthat abortion issue.
Nele (08:13):
Yes, I'm trying to understand the
compartmentalization.
You know where it's, just like,all right, this is an important
issue when, first of all, Imean, people are having sex
outside a wedlock, so that's noteven in within, like.
Are you talking about that?
Soph (08:28):
I just don't understand we're getting divorced like
we're getting divorced.
Nele (08:32):
We're not getting married, so now are you just encouraging
women to be single mothers?
I'm just y'all just saying, hey, it's a life is not really a
argument for me, because thelife that we have here on this
earth we don't take care of howmany kids need to be adopted.
(08:53):
The system needs to be overalloverhauled just so that is
conducive to having families.
Like people are stressed out.
People are stressed out.
People are working.
You do all this work and youdon't have enough time to spend
with your kids because you haveto go work a job so you can pay
for the daycare to afford yourkids that you can't even see.
It's just.
(09:13):
I'm just not understanding howpeople think they're going to be
removed from this under thecloak of whiteness.
I don't understand.
Soph (09:22):
When it comes to they're prolife, just when it comes to
the unborn baby inside themother.
I mean, I can respect thatyou're pro-life it's still none
of your business, but I can.
You can say you're pro-life,but in every other aspect
they're not right.
Children are living below thepoverty means and we don't
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believe in a safety net thatcould help them with that right.
There are kids being turnedaway because they don't have
lunch money or they've reached,or they've reached, like a
certain deficit in their lunchbalance, so now they can't get
meals.
And there are a lot of these redStates like they don't care,
they're not going to zero thatout.
That's your problem.
Your kid is starving, that'syour problem, right.
(10:05):
But when it's in my, when it'smy tummy, when it's in my
stomach, that's that's somehow.
That's not my problem, thatthat that becomes your problem,
that you gotta get in mybusiness.
So I never understood the wholewhole life, like you know.
But we don't.
They don't even care aboutpeople you don't want to hear
there's no way that you can be aproponent of prop.
Nele (10:34):
There's no way that you can be a proponent of prop 2025
and want to talk about the kids.
You want to shut downeverything that the kids benefit
from the public department ofeducation, um, federal jobs, so
social service jobs as well.
These are things that kidsactually need and you want to
shut that down.
Soph (10:52):
How can you have a president that's never grocery
shopped?
There's a weird disconnect.
Nele (10:58):
The repubs are better at branding than Democrats are.
Soph (11:03):
But guess what?
Hate, though Hate.
I think, when it comes to hate,that emotion, it's better at
grasping people because theirbranding was hate.
You know their branding washate, whereas you know harris
was like I want to bringeveryone together.
We don't, yeah, we don't wantto bring everyone together her
(11:26):
being a libra.
Nele (11:27):
Look at her just trying to , you know she was.
Soph (11:30):
She had a vision of you know harmony, and we're like
that's the matrix right like the.
The original matrix was like aparadise but humans hated it.
Yeah, like this like strugglefest of a society people thrive
(11:50):
off of chaos.
Nele (11:51):
Some, some people.
There needs to be those belowin order for them to feel okay.
It's not enough just to be okay, right.
You have to make sure that thepeople below know that they are
below that's what america standson right.
Soph (12:05):
This is a country built on slavery.
Nele (12:08):
Yeah, so they love feeling like they're superior to
someone else, they still ain'tgetting no reparations from and
I mean other groups, are gettingreparations, other groups get
reparations, but when it comesto black people it's all so
debatable when we have countlessrecords of that.
I can calculate I'm bad at, butI'll calculate the numbers to
let you know how much you owe us.
Soph (12:33):
Yeah, this was really disappointing yeah this was
tough.
Nele (12:36):
I mean just kind of lets you know that America is just
not ready, and particularly youknow, talking about Trump, where
how he performed in his, in hisfirst term, um, but he
inherited a decent state right,they usually do, republicans
(13:01):
usually do yes you can.
Oh, the economy was so greatwhen, when, worked it out so
that it would be great, and thenyou messed it up again.
So I just, I don't know y'all.
It doesn't really feel real tome what has happened.
Soph (13:24):
No, it doesn't.
I don't feel as bad as in 2016because part of me was kind of
like yeah yeah, a lot of us arejust dated.
This country is really painful.
But they did say a lot ofpeople, a lot of Democrats,
stayed home, which to me thatgoes back to like well, you know
she did not mention this, soI'm just not going to vote.
(13:49):
I'm going to vote for, like,cornel West, who was, like
always, on the ballot.
Nele (13:54):
Like Cornel West you know, my thing is we don't see the
bigger picture ahead, where it'sjust like this man can cannot
be a president.
He cannot be the presidentagain.
Well, it's happening now, buteven how they did this before, I
(14:17):
felt like they prolonged Bidenstepping down too long, so
whoever was going to come intotheir place would only have a
few months to campaign, asopposed to how long the
Republicans have had it.
So that's that, um, also,secondly, they didn't have a
chance because of such shortnotice, didn't have a chance for
(14:38):
a primary for them to actuallychoose.
Honestly, I felt if they, thedems, fought with another melon
deficient man, I definitelythink that things would be
totally different.
Soph (14:56):
It would have been.
Nele (14:59):
It was just too much, too soon and I think we definitely
were banking on.
You know, we need change and wecan't have this man back in the
White House for cognitivereasons for just and that
overruled everything.
You just can't trust in peoplehaving common sense.
(15:20):
I want a president that canform coherent sentences.
Last night, when Trump did Idon't know if it was an
acceptance speech, but basicallythey knew they had this in the
bag and he spent a good amountof time just talking about Elon
Musk and his rocket, somethingthat he sent in outer space.
(15:43):
I know we've spoken about that.
He spoke about that.
Soph (15:55):
I'm just trying to make sense of it all.
I, he's not.
First of all, this man.
If he it's similar to bidenright, will he make it the four
years?
That's number one, number twolike he's not really, he's not
invested in this, he just wantedto win.
Like he was not and what itmeans, even there was no joy, he
was just like.
Nele (16:15):
He was like where's my metamuse fool in my blanket?
He just wanted to chill out,honestly.
I mean, he wants to be out ofjail.
Yeah, it's the beacon of jail.
So sorry, let me cut you off.
Speaking of jail, do you think,now that Trump is the president
you heard it first, everyone,you heard it first here at this
(16:39):
Is this how it Ends podcast?
I believe he's going to pardonDiddy and then it's going to be
two devils out here.
I believe it.
Soph (16:50):
Does he even know who Diddy is?
Oh no, they partied together.
Nele (16:53):
Yes, I'm sure they crossed paths before.
They definitely have.
Soph (16:57):
They partied together.
They partied together.
Nele (16:59):
Yes, I'm sure he's on the Epstein roster.
Soph (17:05):
Well, he can't pardon Diddy until he's on his way out,
though.
I think that's how the pardonswork.
Or you could pardon someone atany time?
Oh, I don't know.
I thought you can do it anytime.
Oh, maybe you can.
I thought it's like.
Usually you hear of pardonslike when people are like
heading out the door.
No, no, he's supposed to besentenced, though, like what's
(17:27):
going to happen?
Like are they really going tosentence him?
He?
Nele (17:30):
has?
I mean Trump, yeah, or did he?
Because there's just so manyTrump?
I don't think.
I think he only wanted to bepresident so that none of this
stuff would stick.
He's already been impeachedtwice.
He's a felon.
I just no one can tell mecountry could be both for
(17:58):
someone like there's no, there'sno, there is no way anyone with
a hint of brown in them couldget away with any of this, with
any of this, and it just goes toshow you at the end of the day,
like this is who's on top.
The rules don't apply to us no,we're just gonna.
Soph (18:13):
It's four years.
You know a lot can happen infour years, but happen in four
years, so just gotta keeptrudging.
People should vote in localelections.
Vote in your local elections,you know, don't you gotta?
You gotta come out and votelike people.
Yes, they said people did notshow up for harris, you know,
(18:34):
and sorry, I I'm.
Nele (18:36):
I said she's a black woman yeah, because she's a black
woman and you can't tell meotherwise.
Yeah, like, how do I put this?
There's just a certain we canonly get, but so far, because
people know, when we get inthose positions, what we can do,
specifically black women,specifically black women, um,
(19:00):
what we can do.
Even just look at with BarackObama, as great as he is right,
we were calling on Michelle,like, is Michelle gonna run?
You know, like, just blackwomen, we in these positions, we
do what we do, we handlebusiness and the powers that be
just do not want that.
That's just too much progressand even, unfortunately, some of
(19:23):
us, even women, don't want usthere.
You'd rather trust.
How old is Trump?
78, 79?
A 79-year-old man who clearlythere's signs of cognitive
decline and even incontinence,to the point where there was
(19:43):
like a pad where he was sitting.
And again, it's not age-shaming, because there's people that
are in advanced age that stillhave their mind about them, but
this man does not like.
Think about it.
If he, if something happens tohim in that four years, jd vance
is going to be president.
Do you want jd vance to be apresident?
Soph (20:03):
they do, like they do, which I don't you know what.
It's really weird how we're forthese elections, these past
couple of terms, like it's, bothsides are like petrified of the
other ones, like they justthink, like the world is going
(20:25):
to end or something.
It's, it's not, you know.
For Harris to reach where shereached, I think, is really
impressive.
Like she showed that she'scompetent, she's better than him
in every single way, everysingle way, every single way,
every single way possible she'smore competent, Like she would
have done a better job.
(20:48):
But we don't want to give herthat chance.
We don't want to let her climbthat high.
But there will be.
In my life, in our lifetime,we'll see it Whether you think
so, before we're off of thisearth?
Nele (20:57):
you think so?
I think, before we're off.
I think your kids will.
Soph (21:00):
If it doesn't, if it doesn't, if it doesn't end, you
know, I, I, I, I, I think so.
And when you look at thedemographics of the people who
are voting for Trump, you'relike Gen X boomers, Like they're
just, they're the olderdemographic they have.
(21:20):
I mean, yes, no matter what ageyou are, you are, you know,
you're part of society.
Like you know you should votein yourself inches, but you
should also think of the peoplewho are coming behind you,
especially these boomers wholike it up for all of us.
Nele (21:36):
Yeah, it's like I'm glad y'all were able to buy a house
off of the JC penny catalog andpay $50 for it and you know you
can live off your pension andall that.
But these are different times.
We don't know, by the time weget to a certain age, if Social
Security will still be around.
Soph (21:56):
We don't know.
Where can you afford to live?
And what's wild is?
Some of them have to go backinto the workforce because
Social Security is not enough.
Nele (22:01):
Yes.
And so to tell people that, oh,go to school, get an education,
then get a job, no, nothing's,that's not guaranteed now.
You have to kind of have apartner.
Now you kind of have to haveanother side hustle and then a
side hustle for the other sidehustle.
Soph (22:21):
Yeah, just just to make it I know anything that sounds
like a social security net.
Right, they're like against,they don't want to give people
any money, they don't want to doany of this.
Oh, my Social security is asafety net.
Yeah, that you're getting.
But you know it's got minds Fyou and that's what it is.
(22:46):
But you know what, harris,while she didn't make it, she
totally deserved to 100%.
She did, she did a good job shedid, she did it.
She showed out Like she wasphenomenal, right, she did All
her ducks were in a row.
But we all know it's not ameritocracy in this country.
(23:10):
We fail to see that.
So, so you know, we didn't showup for her and we I'm not not
you and I, but there's a hugechunk of the of the population
that did not show up for her um,yeah, but we did have.
We did have some other wins,right?
So Delaware got its first Blackand female senator, oh yeah,
(23:34):
and Maryland got its first Blacksenator.
It feels weird to say firstBlack or first woman in 2024,
but the election shows this iswhy.
So I think there are people whowant to stop progress, but you
can't like they'll.
They'll do everything they can,but yeah, there, it's gonna
(23:57):
happen.
Nele (23:58):
What's the thing?
The only thing that'sinevitable in this world is
change, so it's gonna happen.
There's even a trans woman thatwas, I think, elected to the
senate and that was like thefirst like trans woman awesome.
Soph (24:17):
Yeah, so you know progress is happening, but you know
progress is happening.
It's not as fast as we'd want,but it's happening.
I'm hopeful for the generationsthat are coming up, unless
they're, but then again,sometimes your parents, your
(24:39):
family, they shape you Well.
I'm raising my kid to be fairand all things great and not
hate people based on.
Nele (24:50):
There's a lot out there.
Okay, yeah, you can do yourbest, but I don't know how the
little kids are raised.
Soph (25:00):
We don't know.
Nele (25:00):
And being around your kids .
Soph (25:03):
And I think she should run again.
She should run again in fouryears.
Or you're like no, or sheshould just rest.
No, she should run again.
Nele (25:11):
She should run again in four years, or you're like no,
or she should just rest, no, sheshould rest, she should rest,
yeah, she should rest, yeah, Ithink so.
I think that we're just notready yet.
It's going to take some time.
I think what's going to happenyou heard it here first is that
I mean, of course, trump can'trun again.
(25:32):
Hopefully he's got the SupremeCourt.
Do away with term limits.
I'm just going to be forever.
Soph (25:40):
Did that have to be ratified by all states or term
limits in the Constitution?
Nele (25:46):
Girl does it even matter, They'll find a way.
I don't trust the government.
I don't trust not that I did somuch before but I think the
electoral college is crap.
Um, I think the system needsthe mind of a trumper.
Now I realized that a formerjump off that I had I don't call
(26:19):
him a jump off, he was a friend, you know but he's a trump
supporter and you know he didn'tlook like this.
I was very shocked.
He's a sweetie pie.
I kind of challenged it alittle bit, but not really.
People are allowed to thinkwhat they think, but I just want
(26:40):
to do a little reality testing,like I don't even think this is
going to benefit you.
For me, the only way I couldsee it is that you're going
against a black woman.
You're not really for white men, but you're going against a
black woman.
Soph (26:54):
That's the way I see it when it comes to some black men.
I think there's this angertowards black women.
There's this like hate.
I don't know if it's the.
You know it's what theoppressor managed to accomplish.
I love that saying where theywere like, like.
(27:15):
When it comes to like, theoppressor doesn't have to like
raise a, raise a finger, likethey do their job and then the
oppressor of the continue onthat legacy.
Nele (27:26):
And yes, that's a whole other podcast.
Ok, because that's real, likeit gets passed down in our DNA.
Even, like you know, and I justthink that I mean technically,
you would think that we alreadyhad a black president, a black
(27:48):
man president.
So you know, it's our turn, butno, it's kind of a crabs in the
barrel.
I will say the stuff that wasbeing spewed out, but actually
the, the numbers turned out thatblack men released actually
didn't end up supporting,probably got shamed by obesey.
Okay, obesey was like, was like, absolutely not, you're stupid,
(28:10):
but he was saying the hard partout loud, where some men just
don't want to see a woman inpower, some don't see a Black,
especially a Black, black-ishwoman in power.
Soph (28:29):
And so.
Nele (28:29):
I was watching, actually, one of um funky dernive rap.
Weird feelings about watchinghim.
But he was saying he didn'trealize how hard women have it
until now and it's like really,sir, do you know what's going on
in the world?
Do you know how hard this womanhad to work?
She actually was working withstuff like a lot of stuff
(28:52):
against her first of all,starting off like campaigning
later, and look how hard she hadto work for him to still be in
the lead.
It wasn't like a smoking leadbut it doesn't make any sense to
put zero out like he put liketowards he put zero nothing self
, like he just went up there andjust said words after a while
(29:14):
he just wanted a rally just tohave people around.
It just wasn't making any sense.
That like the words, this man'swords weren't making sense.
And fox to do the best theycould with like sane washing,
sanity washing his stuff, buteven then there were times they
gave up too.
So it just goes to show likewhat we're working against.
(29:36):
No matter how hard we try, nomatter how hard we work, we can
have the credentials.
Soph (29:40):
But the party of Christians is the most hateful
party there is, but to me that'sjust you saying it they, though
You're saying it.
They are.
They're incredibly hateful.
They love that, thy fellow man,if it's.
They look like them, act likethem, have their same beliefs,
(30:07):
but anyone else A few.
Nele (30:14):
You know how I feelianity is a tool to oppress people of
color, oh yeah, black people.
I I hope in that saying uh,religion is opium for the masses
, yeah, yeah, even, um, I wentto, like you know, parochial
school, catholic school, andthey were saying, how you know,
religion is man made.
I mean, this stuff is nice, wedon't need all this stuff to
(30:38):
connect to a higher power.
But, you know, christianityjust seems to be like at the top
of the list in terms of like,hey, imperialism, and just my
way is the right way, andthere's just so much hypocrisy
within the religion in itself.
Soph (30:58):
Bible is just a big old ball of hypocrisy bible like if
you just get the bible as a zanenovel.
Nele (31:07):
I know that's hella disrespectful, but you know
that's like a bible as a zanenovel.
I know that's helladisrespectful, but you know
that's like a bible as englishclass and undergrad there was
there's what's look at that.
Soph (31:17):
Is it this?
I don't know if it's, I don'tthink it's a song of solomon,
song of solomon.
Nele (31:21):
That that's damn, that's, um, it's a little spicy.
A little spicy there, the songof solomon, it's spicy.
Soph (31:30):
Uh, I'm getting into it yeah, but I mean women get no
respect in there they don't so.
Nele (31:39):
So what can we take away from this election, from these
results?
Soph (31:47):
they weren't the results that I wanted, um, but I think
for her to start when shestarted to have all those
roadblocks and still managed toget all the votes that she got,
I think is impressive she did.
She did a phenomenal job andshe did an inspiration to all
(32:08):
girls, especially Black girls,to see themselves.
I can run for president.
I'm around these kids a lotbecause of my 13-year-old.
They're like whatever I want Ican get, they already have that
high ideal and expectation tosee her.
(32:31):
Where she's at, I think, is Ithink it's, I think it's great,
like um, and I think you knowwe'll just continue to build on
that.
Yes, she didn't win, but wehave two black women senators
now that we've never had before.
I mean, we used to have justfour, now it's up to six.
Okay, it's slow progress.
(32:51):
Progress is slow but it's goingto come.
Nele (32:58):
It's going to continue chipping away.
Soph (33:03):
So your takeaway is full of hope.
I don't want to be how I was in2016.
I don't want that man, thatparty, to take that away from me
.
It's four years.
This is not the end.
I mean it could have.
Yes, there are going to be somemajor impacts, but there's, you
(33:25):
can still make change.
There's still other ways tohelp and that change, especially
vote at the local level, likevote in all of these things,
like that's where a lot ofthat's how someone like Margie
Taylor Green gets to where she'sat oh my goodness, she's so
awful when you don't vote atthat level it just slides right
(33:45):
in like just vote vote againstpeople.
Nele (33:50):
So if you have a message of hope, I am actually pretty
scared, um, only because I couldsee when you voted, when you
didn't know.
But now you know, and so andyou clearly see what's going on.
(34:11):
And so to have that much hatebut to have that ideal that you
have to rule supreme, that it'sto your own detriment.
I'm trying to understand, um,and it saddens me.
(34:33):
It's cutting off your nose,despite your face, because we're
all we're going to suffer.
This man is ill-equipped.
He is ill-equipped and the planhas been laid out and you vote
for this man based off offeelings, when there's things
that are printed in black andwhite about what he plans to do
(34:58):
I mean, we're gonna find out.
Soph (35:00):
I'm not saying, I'm not, just no education, no education
for the babies.
Nele (35:04):
And you want to know why he doesn't care about the
department of education?
Because he had a daddy thatgave him money.
He went to private schools.
That's why he doesn't careabout the department of
education.
That's why he doesn't careabout grocery prices, because
this man doesn't know how togrocery shop he's never had to
do it.
Soph (35:25):
But what do youeducated this man?
Nele (35:31):
yeah, that's, that's true this man, particularly black men
, that voted for him.
You're voting for a man thatdoes not want to hold police
accountable when they when theyhurt people, but yet you vote
for him.
You talk, talk about okay,there's no Black agenda, or
whatever.
No one's ever going to come outright say there's a Black
(35:53):
agenda.
No one's ever going to say thatright.
But you have to think aboutcertain things that do impact
Black people, and just you, notyou wanting to be a melanin
deficient, rich man so much thatyou're not realizing that you
are voting in your own demiseand maybe not you specifically,
(36:15):
but you got a cousin that's onthe corner.
You got like.
I just feel like America isjust very stupid.
America is very stupid and Idon't know how we can be
respected.
Soph (36:28):
Smart people voted for him too.
Nele (36:31):
That's true.
I don't think they're smart,though.
I don't think they're smart, sothere's no way possible that
you can hear Kamala speak andhear Trump speak and objectively
say that person makes sense.
No, you're not smart at all.
I'm saying that very clearly.
Soph (36:49):
You are not smart if you vote for trump we don't think so
, but there's this conceptionthat it's all of these
uneducated people who are votingfor him, which is not the case
no, it's not.
Nele (37:00):
there's people that definitely, like you, want to
align with the 1%, but you'renot the 1%, like I just don't, I
don't even, I don't understand.
Soph (37:12):
I think it just comes down to like hate.
Yeah, no, it's a very hateful.
Nele (37:19):
Yeah, no one's saying that .
So you calling it intelligence?
It's not intelligence, it'shate overriding objectivity.
It's hate overriding like justwhat would make sense.
Yeah, and there's this.
Soph (37:35):
You know, when it comes to there's this thing that they're
pushing, that somehow we'retrying to replace the white race
.
You know, um, they're notsaying it, they're not
campaigning on that, but that'sthe message that you.
You know they're not saying it,they're not campaigning on that
, but that's the message thatyou always see.
And they're like we always wantto be on top.
And if you always want to be ontop, you don't want to go with
the, you don't want to go withthe party that has a black or
(38:01):
black and Asian woman as themain ticket.
Yeah, you know, there's alwaysthis oh it's, it's DEI, this,
everything.
If you're not white and you gethired for something, all of a
sudden, it's a DEI hire.
We are over qualified for a lotof these positions.
Nele (38:15):
Most, most of them.
So I people act like DEI islike you're coming in with no
kind of credentials and you'rejust hired all bald, all up and
through.
Soph (38:30):
It doesn't, it doesn't work that way it doesn't, um,
but that's what, that's whatthey think.
Like, anytime something goeswrong and if it's a black woman,
a black man of poc in power,like, oh it was, it was clearly
it was dei, right, um, I don'tknow?
Like silicon valley bank, whenwas it like?
(38:50):
Last year it went under.
They had one black man on theboard.
One black man on the board.
Guess what?
It was because of dei.
This happened.
Like some idiot wrote anarticle.
It was because they were so toofocused on dei.
It's crazy, it is.
But don't leave the country.
(39:10):
People like I'm gonna leave thecountry.
Nele (39:12):
I mean girl.
I mean I do have my trip tobali, so I just might not come
back, should I have to onlysurvive like a year or two out
there.
Um, I'm just interested to see.
It's almost like like this islife, like it's happening, but I
don't feel like it is happeningand I feel like I'm gonna, I'm
(39:34):
a spectator, like it justdoesn't seem, it hasn't sunk in
yet, but once in one health carequadruples.
Soph (39:43):
It's already crazy as it is, because you know his whole
thing is trying to dismantleObamacare, which is the
Affordable Care Act.
That's his whole thing.
Let's see what happens.
Things continue to increase.
He loves Russia.
Nele (40:05):
Ukraine is probably like what's going to happen with
Ukraine and them and child.
It's going to be A hot ass mess.
It's going to be a hot ass mess.
It's going to be a hot ass mess.
You know, we middle class, weright in the middle, but it is
going to be a hot ass.
Soph (40:25):
You know what?
She should not run the nextterm Because it's going to be a
hot ass.
Mess it.
It is gonna be a hot ass.
You know what?
She should not run the nextterm?
Because it's gonna be a hot assmess.
It's gonna be a hot ass messand they're gonna blame it on
the black woman absolutely fornot fixing all the ills.
Nele (40:36):
Just how, with like with this, you know, with this
campaign, it's like, oh, you'rea vice president, look what's
happening under the theadministration now, and it's
like she's not the president.
But you actually had trump,that was the president.
I mean, all of a sudden it'slike, oh, the vice president,
the vice president, the vicepresident isn't the president.
(40:58):
So I just don't understand thatargument yeah, this is going to
be interesting because yeah,this is everything is red,
everything is red, but girl youjust gonna do what we do and
keep, keep on trucking just takecare of yourself, because if
there's a next like pandemic,like I just prayed, the next
(41:21):
four years is none of thepandemic.
There's not another likefinancial collapse.
I just don't see anyone, anyonein trump's administration,
doing anything that one doesn'tmake them look good.
So definitely, giving the thestimulus checks helped him look
good, um, but well he hasHerschel Walker on something
(41:49):
related to defense?
Yeah, girl, he's gonna bringElon in no, absolutely not.
Okay, absolutely not.
Elon can stay right where he is.
He can't even run Twitter.
No shade the shade, all theTwitter.
No shade, the shade, all theshade, all of the shade.
Soph (42:13):
Okay yeah, but we'll be fine.
Nele (42:19):
Yeah, we'll be fine yeah, we will be it's gonna be scary
and rough and feel all the feels, but well, well y'all um, there
really isn't much to saybecause we're still trying to
(42:39):
formulate the words.
Um, just burn some sagey'allall.
Hold on to your Bible, yourBible.
Soph (42:49):
You should not hold on to your Bible.
Nele (42:50):
I don't know Quran Something girl.
You need something to believein, because I don't know if God
wanted this.
I believe it's the work of thedevil.
Mark my words.
Soph (43:03):
Diddy's going to be out.
Well, we don't know the devil'sstory, we only know God's story
, that's true, and his story isnot great and what we've done
with his story is not great.
All right, we justified slaverythat is very true With the
Bible.
We went into these countries topreach and convert them to
(43:24):
Christianity.
So, it is not a tool for goodimperialism at its finest it is
not a tool for good.
Nele (43:33):
So alright, y'all well if you like the vibe.
Please make sure to likecomment and subscribe yeah take
care alright, till next time.
Y'all bye.
Hey y'all, and welcome to our podcast.
This is how it ends.
I'm Nels, I'm Soph, and we'rehere to talk about everything
from politics to conspiracytheories, to pop culture.
It's all here, girl talk, witha twist that you don't want to
miss.
So, unfortunately, we got toget into it because, y'all, we
(00:27):
got a new president-elect.
Well, not new, yeah, donaldTrump is our 47th president.
Soph (00:39):
I was not.
You know what.
How are you feeling about that,Janelle?
He's going to sip on your water.
You know what?
How are you?
Nele (00:46):
feeling about that?
Janelle, my first girl.
I just want to say that I onlygot two hours of sleep.
I'm drinking wine.
Might have smoked a littlesomething.
So, hopefully the words thatcome out of my mouth make sense.
I really thought that she wasgoing to win.
Honestly, I really did, but Ishould have known.
(01:10):
It's the same feeling I gotwatching Hillary, where I was
like, all right, I'm going toclose my eyes and in the morning
I'm going to hope for somethingbetter.
The whole time just hopingthere'd be a different outcome.
Time just hoping there'd be adifferent outcome and there
(01:33):
wasn't.
Just basically, when he tookPennsylvania, I was like it's a
wrap just it's a wrap.
Soph (01:39):
yeah, I um part of me knew that.
Like deep in my heart, I waslike I don't think so, because
remember how we were leadinginto his presidency and then,
when he won and how it wasduring his presidency, it was
like a lot of hate and all ofthese people came out of the
(02:01):
woodworks.
When you think about everythingthat went down in 2020, all of
that has intensified.
It hasn't gotten better, it'sgotten worse.
I didn't watch anything, so Ididn't scroll social media.
I just stayed off of everything.
(02:24):
So, you were punking out.
Nele (02:26):
So if you were punking, out.
You supposed to hang in therewe are battle buddies in this
and you were like absolutely not.
Soph (02:32):
I know I punked out.
I could not go through whathappened in 2016.
Like, I don't think my heartcould have taken it, so I had
some Jameson and ginger aroundfive o'clock.
By nine o'clock I was in bed.
When you text me, I did textyou, I was like this ain't good,
(02:53):
this ain't good.
And then I just knew, and thenFabian was checking my husband
was checking his.
I could see him around 4 a 4ambecause I couldn't really sleep.
But around 4am I saw him likelike he was on his phone and he
was, and it was for a minutebecause I couldn't really sleep
(03:14):
either.
I was like, yeah, he's probably.
He probably went to bedthinking it's going to be a
better outcome.
Nele (03:20):
He tried, but I mean by that time.
I don't know what time it wasexactly.
Again, I have no concept rightnow, but there was a time where
he was already like at 266.
She might have been at like 210at the time, but either when
they were waiting for like maybefour or five of the swing
(03:43):
states.
However, he only needed four toget to 270.
, like that's how you knew itwas a wrap and it just wasn't
even like it was.
It was close, but it was likeit shouldn't have been this
close.
I'm trying to understand.
Soph (04:04):
I'm surprised it wasn't closer, at least for her to be
closer we don't come through for.
Black women.
We don't come through for Blackwomen.
Nele (04:12):
We don't come through for women if Hillary couldn't get it
.
Soph (04:16):
That's my thing too, If Hillary can't get it she cares
Kamala.
Nele (04:25):
What she represented was just too much at the time.
Like it's a woman of color whodoesn't have biological children
, like it's just who'sattractive because, you know,
with women I definitely thinkmore women get more depending on
how attractive you are.
You get more smoke and jezebelsand all the stuff comes flying
(04:49):
out of people's mouths, you knowwhatever.
But um, yeah, I just felt likeit was just too.
And then tim waltz's ass likeoh, you know, it was just too
much, even though kamala tendsto lead more, like she's
actually more of a centrist andreally like leftist, like that
(05:09):
she is yeah, people said she's,you know they're like she wasn't
leftist enough, she wasn'tcentrist enough, like it's like
she had to be everything toeveryone and she can't like
democrats.
Soph (05:23):
Republicans are a monolith right.
They will, they will vote as ablock.
Democrats are not.
You know, like we do have thecentrists, we do have the um the
leftists, like we have theprogressives, you know, like she
can't be all things to everyoneand I think that's the problem
that.
Nele (05:39):
That is the problem.
Soph (05:40):
But now you have agent orange in office.
Nele (05:45):
Here's the thing.
First of all, you know whovoted.
I could be wrong, but you knowwho was out there just getting
their vote on.
Maybe I should say an Espanol,because definitely the Latino
men.
Soph (06:01):
They always vote Republican the.
Nele (06:03):
Latino men, but they showed out a little bit more.
And then also melanin deficientwomen.
I don't want to hear anything.
I don't want to hear anything.
Soph (06:16):
They didn't vote for Clinton, they were not about to
vote for Harris for Harris.
Nele (06:28):
But here's the here's.
I'm trying to understand.
Um, our Latinx followers,please help us out.
I'm trying to understand.
I'm trying to understand, like,how do you think this is going
to help you?
I know there's an aspiration tomelanin deficiency, but then
there's actual reality.
Like some of y'all, some ofsome of your primos and primas,
tios and tias might end up beinglike they're already talking
(06:50):
about it.
They're already talking abouthaving people like deported.
You know just, it might be someof your familia getting the
boots?
I don't understand he wanted tobuild a wall against, you know,
for mexicans, mexicans were likehell.
No, that was my mexican accent.
(07:10):
They were like hell.
No, we're not paying for thiswall, sir.
So he doesn't have a greattrack record with immigrants.
Soph (07:17):
I'm just very confused by this, two things they say about,
about that.
So, especially when it comes toFlorida and the Florida Cubans,
they painted Harris as likethis communist right, like she's
going to redistribute all thewealth, which she can't do.
That and she's not.
(07:38):
So they want nothing to do withthat because they fled a
country that was like that,which, whatever.
And the other thing is, a lotof them are like heavy Catholics
.
So that abortion thing, youknow that abortion thing, they
were stuck on that.
They don't care about nothingelse.
(07:58):
Religion first.
They probably sin their assesoff in every aspect of their
life, but when it comes togetting into women's business,
they care very deeply about that.
They care very deeply aboutthat abortion issue.
Nele (08:13):
Yes, I'm trying to understand the
compartmentalization.
You know where it's, just like,all right, this is an important
issue when, first of all, Imean, people are having sex
outside a wedlock, so that's noteven in within, like.
Are you talking about that?
Soph (08:28):
I just don't understand we're getting divorced like
we're getting divorced.
Nele (08:32):
We're not getting married, so now are you just encouraging
women to be single mothers?
I'm just y'all just saying, hey, it's a life is not really a
argument for me, because thelife that we have here on this
earth we don't take care of howmany kids need to be adopted.
(08:53):
The system needs to be overalloverhauled just so that is
conducive to having families.
Like people are stressed out.
People are stressed out.
People are working.
You do all this work and youdon't have enough time to spend
with your kids because you haveto go work a job so you can pay
for the daycare to afford yourkids that you can't even see.
It's just.
(09:13):
I'm just not understanding howpeople think they're going to be
removed from this under thecloak of whiteness.
I don't understand.
Soph (09:22):
When it comes to they're prolife, just when it comes to
the unborn baby inside themother.
I mean, I can respect thatyou're pro-life it's still none
of your business, but I can.
You can say you're pro-life,but in every other aspect
they're not right.
Children are living below thepoverty means and we don't
(09:42):
believe in a safety net thatcould help them with that right.
There are kids being turnedaway because they don't have
lunch money or they've reached,or they've reached, like a
certain deficit in their lunchbalance, so now they can't get
meals.
And there are a lot of these redStates like they don't care,
they're not going to zero thatout.
That's your problem.
Your kid is starving, that'syour problem, right.
(10:05):
But when it's in my, when it'smy tummy, when it's in my
stomach, that's that's somehow.
That's not my problem, thatthat that becomes your problem,
that you gotta get in mybusiness.
So I never understood the wholewhole life, like you know.
But we don't.
They don't even care aboutpeople you don't want to hear
there's no way that you can be aproponent of prop.
Nele (10:34):
There's no way that you can be a proponent of prop 2025
and want to talk about the kids.
You want to shut downeverything that the kids benefit
from the public department ofeducation, um, federal jobs, so
social service jobs as well.
These are things that kidsactually need and you want to
shut that down.
Soph (10:52):
How can you have a president that's never grocery
shopped?
There's a weird disconnect.
Nele (10:58):
The repubs are better at branding than Democrats are.
Soph (11:03):
But guess what?
Hate, though Hate.
I think, when it comes to hate,that emotion, it's better at
grasping people because theirbranding was hate.
You know their branding washate, whereas you know harris
was like I want to bringeveryone together.
We don't, yeah, we don't wantto bring everyone together her
(11:26):
being a libra.
Nele (11:27):
Look at her just trying to , you know she was.
Soph (11:30):
She had a vision of you know harmony, and we're like
that's the matrix right like the.
The original matrix was like aparadise but humans hated it.
Yeah, like this like strugglefest of a society people thrive
(11:50):
off of chaos.
Nele (11:51):
Some, some people.
There needs to be those belowin order for them to feel okay.
It's not enough just to be okay, right.
You have to make sure that thepeople below know that they are
below that's what america standson right.
Soph (12:05):
This is a country built on slavery.
Nele (12:08):
Yeah, so they love feeling like they're superior to
someone else, they still ain'tgetting no reparations from and
I mean other groups, are gettingreparations, other groups get
reparations, but when it comesto black people it's all so
debatable when we have countlessrecords of that.
I can calculate I'm bad at, butI'll calculate the numbers to
let you know how much you owe us.
Soph (12:33):
Yeah, this was really disappointing yeah this was
tough.
Nele (12:36):
I mean just kind of lets you know that America is just
not ready, and particularly youknow, talking about Trump, where
how he performed in his, in hisfirst term, um, but he
inherited a decent state right,they usually do, republicans
(13:01):
usually do yes you can.
Oh, the economy was so greatwhen, when, worked it out so
that it would be great, and thenyou messed it up again.
So I just, I don't know y'all.
It doesn't really feel real tome what has happened.
Soph (13:24):
No, it doesn't.
I don't feel as bad as in 2016because part of me was kind of
like yeah yeah, a lot of us arejust dated.
This country is really painful.
But they did say a lot ofpeople, a lot of Democrats,
stayed home, which to me thatgoes back to like well, you know
she did not mention this, soI'm just not going to vote.
(13:49):
I'm going to vote for, like,cornel West, who was, like
always, on the ballot.
Nele (13:54):
Like Cornel West you know, my thing is we don't see the
bigger picture ahead, where it'sjust like this man can cannot
be a president.
He cannot be the presidentagain.
Well, it's happening now, buteven how they did this before, I
(14:17):
felt like they prolonged Bidenstepping down too long, so
whoever was going to come intotheir place would only have a
few months to campaign, asopposed to how long the
Republicans have had it.
So that's that, um, also,secondly, they didn't have a
chance because of such shortnotice, didn't have a chance for
(14:38):
a primary for them to actuallychoose.
Honestly, I felt if they, thedems, fought with another melon
deficient man, I definitelythink that things would be
totally different.
Soph (14:56):
It would have been.
Nele (14:59):
It was just too much, too soon and I think we definitely
were banking on.
You know, we need change and wecan't have this man back in the
White House for cognitivereasons for just and that
overruled everything.
You just can't trust in peoplehaving common sense.
(15:20):
I want a president that canform coherent sentences.
Last night, when Trump did Idon't know if it was an
acceptance speech, but basicallythey knew they had this in the
bag and he spent a good amountof time just talking about Elon
Musk and his rocket, somethingthat he sent in outer space.
(15:43):
I know we've spoken about that.
He spoke about that.
Soph (15:55):
I'm just trying to make sense of it all.
I, he's not.
First of all, this man.
If he it's similar to bidenright, will he make it the four
years?
That's number one, number twolike he's not really, he's not
invested in this, he just wantedto win.
Like he was not and what itmeans, even there was no joy, he
was just like.
Nele (16:15):
He was like where's my metamuse fool in my blanket?
He just wanted to chill out,honestly.
I mean, he wants to be out ofjail.
Yeah, it's the beacon of jail.
So sorry, let me cut you off.
Speaking of jail, do you think,now that Trump is the president
you heard it first, everyone,you heard it first here at this
(16:39):
Is this how it Ends podcast?
I believe he's going to pardonDiddy and then it's going to be
two devils out here.
I believe it.
Soph (16:50):
Does he even know who Diddy is?
Oh no, they partied together.
Nele (16:53):
Yes, I'm sure they crossed paths before.
They definitely have.
Soph (16:57):
They partied together.
They partied together.
Nele (16:59):
Yes, I'm sure he's on the Epstein roster.
Soph (17:05):
Well, he can't pardon Diddy until he's on his way out,
though.
I think that's how the pardonswork.
Or you could pardon someone atany time?
Oh, I don't know.
I thought you can do it anytime.
Oh, maybe you can.
I thought it's like.
Usually you hear of pardonslike when people are like
heading out the door.
No, no, he's supposed to besentenced, though, like what's
(17:27):
going to happen?
Like are they really going tosentence him?
He?
Nele (17:30):
has?
I mean Trump, yeah, or did he?
Because there's just so manyTrump?
I don't think.
I think he only wanted to bepresident so that none of this
stuff would stick.
He's already been impeachedtwice.
He's a felon.
I just no one can tell mecountry could be both for
(17:58):
someone like there's no, there'sno, there is no way anyone with
a hint of brown in them couldget away with any of this, with
any of this, and it just goes toshow you at the end of the day,
like this is who's on top.
The rules don't apply to us no,we're just gonna.
Soph (18:13):
It's four years.
You know a lot can happen infour years, but happen in four
years, so just gotta keeptrudging.
People should vote in localelections.
Vote in your local elections,you know, don't you gotta?
You gotta come out and votelike people.
Yes, they said people did notshow up for harris, you know,
(18:34):
and sorry, I I'm.
Nele (18:36):
I said she's a black woman yeah, because she's a black
woman and you can't tell meotherwise.
Yeah, like, how do I put this?
There's just a certain we canonly get, but so far, because
people know, when we get inthose positions, what we can do,
specifically black women,specifically black women, um,
(19:00):
what we can do.
Even just look at with BarackObama, as great as he is right,
we were calling on Michelle,like, is Michelle gonna run?
You know, like, just blackwomen, we in these positions, we
do what we do, we handlebusiness and the powers that be
just do not want that.
That's just too much progressand even, unfortunately, some of
(19:23):
us, even women, don't want usthere.
You'd rather trust.
How old is Trump?
78, 79?
A 79-year-old man who clearlythere's signs of cognitive
decline and even incontinence,to the point where there was
(19:43):
like a pad where he was sitting.
And again, it's not age-shaming, because there's people that
are in advanced age that stillhave their mind about them, but
this man does not like.
Think about it.
If he, if something happens tohim in that four years, jd vance
is going to be president.
Do you want jd vance to be apresident?
Soph (20:03):
they do, like they do, which I don't you know what.
It's really weird how we're forthese elections, these past
couple of terms, like it's, bothsides are like petrified of the
other ones, like they justthink, like the world is going
(20:25):
to end or something.
It's, it's not, you know.
For Harris to reach where shereached, I think, is really
impressive.
Like she showed that she'scompetent, she's better than him
in every single way, everysingle way, every single way,
every single way possible she'smore competent, Like she would
have done a better job.
(20:48):
But we don't want to give herthat chance.
We don't want to let her climbthat high.
But there will be.
In my life, in our lifetime,we'll see it Whether you think
so, before we're off of thisearth?
Nele (20:57):
you think so?
I think, before we're off.
I think your kids will.
Soph (21:00):
If it doesn't, if it doesn't, if it doesn't end, you
know, I, I, I, I, I think so.
And when you look at thedemographics of the people who
are voting for Trump, you'relike Gen X boomers, Like they're
just, they're the olderdemographic they have.
(21:20):
I mean, yes, no matter what ageyou are, you are, you know,
you're part of society.
Like you know you should votein yourself inches, but you
should also think of the peoplewho are coming behind you,
especially these boomers wholike it up for all of us.
Nele (21:36):
Yeah, it's like I'm glad y'all were able to buy a house
off of the JC penny catalog andpay $50 for it and you know you
can live off your pension andall that.
But these are different times.
We don't know, by the time weget to a certain age, if Social
Security will still be around.
Soph (21:56):
We don't know.
Where can you afford to live?
And what's wild is?
Some of them have to go backinto the workforce because
Social Security is not enough.
Nele (22:01):
Yes.
And so to tell people that, oh,go to school, get an education,
then get a job, no, nothing's,that's not guaranteed now.
You have to kind of have apartner.
Now you kind of have to haveanother side hustle and then a
side hustle for the other sidehustle.
Soph (22:21):
Yeah, just just to make it I know anything that sounds
like a social security net.
Right, they're like against,they don't want to give people
any money, they don't want to doany of this.
Oh, my Social security is asafety net.
Yeah, that you're getting.
But you know it's got minds Fyou and that's what it is.
(22:46):
But you know what, harris,while she didn't make it, she
totally deserved to 100%.
She did, she did a good job shedid, she did it.
She showed out Like she wasphenomenal, right, she did All
her ducks were in a row.
But we all know it's not ameritocracy in this country.
(23:10):
We fail to see that.
So, so you know, we didn't showup for her and we I'm not not
you and I, but there's a hugechunk of the of the population
that did not show up for her um,yeah, but we did have.
We did have some other wins,right?
So Delaware got its first Blackand female senator, oh yeah,
(23:34):
and Maryland got its first Blacksenator.
It feels weird to say firstBlack or first woman in 2024,
but the election shows this iswhy.
So I think there are people whowant to stop progress, but you
can't like they'll.
They'll do everything they can,but yeah, there, it's gonna
(23:57):
happen.
Nele (23:58):
What's the thing?
The only thing that'sinevitable in this world is
change, so it's gonna happen.
There's even a trans woman thatwas, I think, elected to the
senate and that was like thefirst like trans woman awesome.
Soph (24:17):
Yeah, so you know progress is happening, but you know
progress is happening.
It's not as fast as we'd want,but it's happening.
I'm hopeful for the generationsthat are coming up, unless
they're, but then again,sometimes your parents, your
(24:39):
family, they shape you Well.
I'm raising my kid to be fairand all things great and not
hate people based on.
Nele (24:50):
There's a lot out there.
Okay, yeah, you can do yourbest, but I don't know how the
little kids are raised.
Soph (25:00):
We don't know.
Nele (25:00):
And being around your kids .
Soph (25:03):
And I think she should run again.
She should run again in fouryears.
Or you're like no, or sheshould just rest.
No, she should run again.
Nele (25:11):
She should run again in four years, or you're like no,
or she should just rest, no, sheshould rest, she should rest,
yeah, she should rest, yeah, Ithink so.
I think that we're just notready yet.
It's going to take some time.
I think what's going to happenyou heard it here first is that
I mean, of course, trump can'trun again.
(25:32):
Hopefully he's got the SupremeCourt.
Do away with term limits.
I'm just going to be forever.
Soph (25:40):
Did that have to be ratified by all states or term
limits in the Constitution?
Nele (25:46):
Girl does it even matter, They'll find a way.
I don't trust the government.
I don't trust not that I did somuch before but I think the
electoral college is crap.
Um, I think the system needsthe mind of a trumper.
Now I realized that a formerjump off that I had I don't call
(26:19):
him a jump off, he was a friend, you know but he's a trump
supporter and you know he didn'tlook like this.
I was very shocked.
He's a sweetie pie.
I kind of challenged it alittle bit, but not really.
People are allowed to thinkwhat they think, but I just want
(26:40):
to do a little reality testing,like I don't even think this is
going to benefit you.
For me, the only way I couldsee it is that you're going
against a black woman.
You're not really for white men, but you're going against a
black woman.
Soph (26:54):
That's the way I see it when it comes to some black men.
I think there's this angertowards black women.
There's this like hate.
I don't know if it's the.
You know it's what theoppressor managed to accomplish.
I love that saying where theywere like, like.
(27:15):
When it comes to like, theoppressor doesn't have to like
raise a, raise a finger, likethey do their job and then the
oppressor of the continue onthat legacy.
Nele (27:26):
And yes, that's a whole other podcast.
Ok, because that's real, likeit gets passed down in our DNA.
Even, like you know, and I justthink that I mean technically,
you would think that we alreadyhad a black president, a black
(27:48):
man president.
So you know, it's our turn, butno, it's kind of a crabs in the
barrel.
I will say the stuff that wasbeing spewed out, but actually
the, the numbers turned out thatblack men released actually
didn't end up supporting,probably got shamed by obesey.
Okay, obesey was like, was like, absolutely not, you're stupid,
(28:10):
but he was saying the hard partout loud, where some men just
don't want to see a woman inpower, some don't see a Black,
especially a Black, black-ishwoman in power.
Soph (28:29):
And so.
Nele (28:29):
I was watching, actually, one of um funky dernive rap.
Weird feelings about watchinghim.
But he was saying he didn'trealize how hard women have it
until now and it's like really,sir, do you know what's going on
in the world?
Do you know how hard this womanhad to work?
She actually was working withstuff like a lot of stuff
(28:52):
against her first of all,starting off like campaigning
later, and look how hard she hadto work for him to still be in
the lead.
It wasn't like a smoking leadbut it doesn't make any sense to
put zero out like he put liketowards he put zero nothing self
, like he just went up there andjust said words after a while
(29:14):
he just wanted a rally just tohave people around.
It just wasn't making any sense.
That like the words, this man'swords weren't making sense.
And fox to do the best theycould with like sane washing,
sanity washing his stuff, buteven then there were times they
gave up too.
So it just goes to show likewhat we're working against.
(29:36):
No matter how hard we try, nomatter how hard we work, we can
have the credentials.
Soph (29:40):
But the party of Christians is the most hateful
party there is, but to me that'sjust you saying it they, though
You're saying it.
They are.
They're incredibly hateful.
They love that, thy fellow man,if it's.
They look like them, act likethem, have their same beliefs,
(30:07):
but anyone else A few.
Nele (30:14):
You know how I feelianity is a tool to oppress people of
color, oh yeah, black people.
I I hope in that saying uh,religion is opium for the masses
, yeah, yeah, even, um, I wentto, like you know, parochial
school, catholic school, andthey were saying, how you know,
religion is man made.
I mean, this stuff is nice, wedon't need all this stuff to
(30:38):
connect to a higher power.
But, you know, christianityjust seems to be like at the top
of the list in terms of like,hey, imperialism, and just my
way is the right way, andthere's just so much hypocrisy
within the religion in itself.
Soph (30:58):
Bible is just a big old ball of hypocrisy bible like if
you just get the bible as a zanenovel.
Nele (31:07):
I know that's hella disrespectful, but you know
that's like a bible as a zanenovel.
I know that's helladisrespectful, but you know
that's like a bible as englishclass and undergrad there was
there's what's look at that.
Soph (31:17):
Is it this?
I don't know if it's, I don'tthink it's a song of solomon,
song of solomon.
Nele (31:21):
That that's damn, that's, um, it's a little spicy.
A little spicy there, the songof solomon, it's spicy.
Soph (31:30):
Uh, I'm getting into it yeah, but I mean women get no
respect in there they don't so.
Nele (31:39):
So what can we take away from this election, from these
results?
Soph (31:47):
they weren't the results that I wanted, um, but I think
for her to start when shestarted to have all those
roadblocks and still managed toget all the votes that she got,
I think is impressive she did.
She did a phenomenal job andshe did an inspiration to all
(32:08):
girls, especially Black girls,to see themselves.
I can run for president.
I'm around these kids a lotbecause of my 13-year-old.
They're like whatever I want Ican get, they already have that
high ideal and expectation tosee her.
(32:31):
Where she's at, I think, is Ithink it's, I think it's great,
like um, and I think you knowwe'll just continue to build on
that.
Yes, she didn't win, but wehave two black women senators
now that we've never had before.
I mean, we used to have justfour, now it's up to six.
Okay, it's slow progress.
(32:51):
Progress is slow but it's goingto come.
Nele (32:58):
It's going to continue chipping away.
Soph (33:03):
So your takeaway is full of hope.
I don't want to be how I was in2016.
I don't want that man, thatparty, to take that away from me
.
It's four years.
This is not the end.
I mean it could have.
Yes, there are going to be somemajor impacts, but there's, you
(33:25):
can still make change.
There's still other ways tohelp and that change, especially
vote at the local level, likevote in all of these things,
like that's where a lot ofthat's how someone like Margie
Taylor Green gets to where she'sat oh my goodness, she's so
awful when you don't vote atthat level it just slides right
(33:45):
in like just vote vote againstpeople.
Nele (33:50):
So if you have a message of hope, I am actually pretty
scared, um, only because I couldsee when you voted, when you
didn't know.
But now you know, and so andyou clearly see what's going on.
(34:11):
And so to have that much hatebut to have that ideal that you
have to rule supreme, that it'sto your own detriment.
I'm trying to understand, um,and it saddens me.
(34:33):
It's cutting off your nose,despite your face, because we're
all we're going to suffer.
This man is ill-equipped.
He is ill-equipped and the planhas been laid out and you vote
for this man based off offeelings, when there's things
that are printed in black andwhite about what he plans to do
(34:58):
I mean, we're gonna find out.
Soph (35:00):
I'm not saying, I'm not, just no education, no education
for the babies.
Nele (35:04):
And you want to know why he doesn't care about the
department of education?
Because he had a daddy thatgave him money.
He went to private schools.
That's why he doesn't careabout the department of
education.
That's why he doesn't careabout grocery prices, because
this man doesn't know how togrocery shop he's never had to
do it.
Soph (35:25):
But what do youeducated this man?
Nele (35:31):
yeah, that's, that's true this man, particularly black men
, that voted for him.
You're voting for a man thatdoes not want to hold police
accountable when they when theyhurt people, but yet you vote
for him.
You talk, talk about okay,there's no Black agenda, or
whatever.
No one's ever going to come outright say there's a Black
(35:53):
agenda.
No one's ever going to say thatright.
But you have to think aboutcertain things that do impact
Black people, and just you, notyou wanting to be a melanin
deficient, rich man so much thatyou're not realizing that you
are voting in your own demiseand maybe not you specifically,
(36:15):
but you got a cousin that's onthe corner.
You got like.
I just feel like America isjust very stupid.
America is very stupid and Idon't know how we can be
respected.
Soph (36:28):
Smart people voted for him too.
Nele (36:31):
That's true.
I don't think they're smart,though.
I don't think they're smart, sothere's no way possible that
you can hear Kamala speak andhear Trump speak and objectively
say that person makes sense.
No, you're not smart at all.
I'm saying that very clearly.
Soph (36:49):
You are not smart if you vote for trump we don't think so
, but there's this conceptionthat it's all of these
uneducated people who are votingfor him, which is not the case
no, it's not.
Nele (37:00):
there's people that definitely, like you, want to
align with the 1%, but you'renot the 1%, like I just don't, I
don't even, I don't understand.
Soph (37:12):
I think it just comes down to like hate.
Yeah, no, it's a very hateful.
Nele (37:19):
Yeah, no one's saying that .
So you calling it intelligence?
It's not intelligence, it'shate overriding objectivity.
It's hate overriding like justwhat would make sense.
Yeah, and there's this.
Soph (37:35):
You know, when it comes to there's this thing that they're
pushing, that somehow we'retrying to replace the white race
.
You know, um, they're notsaying it, they're not
campaigning on that, but that'sthe message that you.
You know they're not saying it,they're not campaigning on that
, but that's the message thatyou always see.
And they're like we always wantto be on top.
And if you always want to be ontop, you don't want to go with
the, you don't want to go withthe party that has a black or
(38:01):
black and Asian woman as themain ticket.
Yeah, you know, there's alwaysthis oh it's, it's DEI, this,
everything.
If you're not white and you gethired for something, all of a
sudden, it's a DEI hire.
We are over qualified for a lotof these positions.
Nele (38:15):
Most, most of them.
So I people act like DEI islike you're coming in with no
kind of credentials and you'rejust hired all bald, all up and
through.
Soph (38:30):
It doesn't, it doesn't work that way it doesn't, um,
but that's what, that's whatthey think.
Like, anytime something goeswrong and if it's a black woman,
a black man of poc in power,like, oh it was, it was clearly
it was dei, right, um, I don'tknow?
Like silicon valley bank, whenwas it like?
(38:50):
Last year it went under.
They had one black man on theboard.
One black man on the board.
Guess what?
It was because of dei.
This happened.
Like some idiot wrote anarticle.
It was because they were so toofocused on dei.
It's crazy, it is.
But don't leave the country.
(39:10):
People like I'm gonna leave thecountry.
Nele (39:12):
I mean girl.
I mean I do have my trip tobali, so I just might not come
back, should I have to onlysurvive like a year or two out
there.
Um, I'm just interested to see.
It's almost like like this islife, like it's happening, but I
don't feel like it is happeningand I feel like I'm gonna, I'm
(39:34):
a spectator, like it justdoesn't seem, it hasn't sunk in
yet, but once in one health carequadruples.
Soph (39:43):
It's already crazy as it is, because you know his whole
thing is trying to dismantleObamacare, which is the
Affordable Care Act.
That's his whole thing.
Let's see what happens.
Things continue to increase.
He loves Russia.
Nele (40:05):
Ukraine is probably like what's going to happen with
Ukraine and them and child.
It's going to be A hot ass mess.
It's going to be a hot ass mess.
It's going to be a hot ass mess.
You know, we middle class, weright in the middle, but it is
going to be a hot ass.
Soph (40:25):
You know what?
She should not run the nextterm Because it's going to be a
hot ass.
Mess it.
It is gonna be a hot ass.
You know what?
She should not run the nextterm?
Because it's gonna be a hot assmess.
It's gonna be a hot ass messand they're gonna blame it on
the black woman absolutely fornot fixing all the ills.
Nele (40:36):
Just how, with like with this, you know, with this
campaign, it's like, oh, you'rea vice president, look what's
happening under the theadministration now, and it's
like she's not the president.
But you actually had trump,that was the president.
I mean, all of a sudden it'slike, oh, the vice president,
the vice president, the vicepresident isn't the president.
(40:58):
So I just don't understand thatargument yeah, this is going to
be interesting because yeah,this is everything is red,
everything is red, but girl youjust gonna do what we do and
keep, keep on trucking just takecare of yourself, because if
there's a next like pandemic,like I just prayed, the next
(41:21):
four years is none of thepandemic.
There's not another likefinancial collapse.
I just don't see anyone, anyonein trump's administration,
doing anything that one doesn'tmake them look good.
So definitely, giving the thestimulus checks helped him look
good, um, but well he hasHerschel Walker on something
(41:49):
related to defense?
Yeah, girl, he's gonna bringElon in no, absolutely not.
Okay, absolutely not.
Elon can stay right where he is.
He can't even run Twitter.
No shade the shade, all theTwitter.
No shade, the shade, all theshade, all of the shade.
Soph (42:13):
Okay yeah, but we'll be fine.
Nele (42:19):
Yeah, we'll be fine yeah, we will be it's gonna be scary
and rough and feel all the feels, but well, well y'all um, there
really isn't much to saybecause we're still trying to
(42:39):
formulate the words.
Um, just burn some sagey'allall.
Hold on to your Bible, yourBible.
Soph (42:49):
You should not hold on to your Bible.
Nele (42:50):
I don't know Quran Something girl.
You need something to believein, because I don't know if God
wanted this.
I believe it's the work of thedevil.
Mark my words.
Soph (43:03):
Diddy's going to be out.
Well, we don't know the devil'sstory, we only know God's story
, that's true, and his story isnot great and what we've done
with his story is not great.
All right, we justified slaverythat is very true With the
Bible.
We went into these countries topreach and convert them to
(43:24):
Christianity.
So, it is not a tool for goodimperialism at its finest it is
not a tool for good.
Nele (43:33):
So alright, y'all well if you like the vibe.
Please make sure to likecomment and subscribe yeah take
care alright, till next time.
Y'all bye.
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