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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Flavor podcast network.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Island Roots or Clan Ways. This one's for the Brown
brothers and sisters who want to be one with themselves,
their culture, their identity, their roots.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
This is Island Roots Auckland Ways.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Oh hi there, welcome back to Island Roots Auckland Ways.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello Alissa, Hello, I'm I was trying to think of
like a funny like school related thing, like what did
you do back in school? Like that the teacher would
get your attention?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Did you do the the clap? We did the class man,
I missed the claps?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Star?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And stop?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I swear you should have been a teacher in a
different line.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You know what, I could still be a teacher.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You could.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I could? You love the degrees girl, but the person
who's actually qualified, Yes, Miss Samantha Richards. We're so so
so blessed to have got a miss angel say on
our podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Such a calming energy she brings, and she also brings
a wealth of knowledge about Arina of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So Sam and I are both crazy Swifties like you
imagine each other's energy so wild.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
You guys looked so happy having that discussion, And I
don't want to insurrupt, so then I just cut it the.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Posts because the conversation was very, very very long about
Taylor Swift. But shout out to my psalm won Swifty,
shout out my past bigger Swifties. This episode is for you,
and even if you're not a Swifty, one hundred percent
going to be gems of knowledge in this chat that
you're gonna love, especially about Sam's journey to like really
understanding who she is as a psalm one. I think
(01:43):
that Cordy Door is so valid and so important, and
I think so many of us will get something out
of it. M M. You can listen to it all
right now, Welcome back to another episode of Island Roots
Aukland Ways. We Okay, I have to confess something I'm
probably interested in. The guest thing we have on today
is like my guiding light angel, Like we recently connected
(02:08):
on social media and I'm obsessed with her, but I
have been watching her like a fucking creep for so long.
Please welcome TikTok, Teacher, Swiftly, Sensation, the Riches.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Welcome, so thank you for having me. I'm a massive,
massive fan of the show. I think you guys are
absolutely killing it. I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Is this the miss Riches like these teachers, it's like
right now, like during school holidays, holidays.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
School holidays. Yeah, it's crazy that I obviously respond to
Miss Richards in the classroom it's my name, but now
in the streets as well, this miss Richards.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That's a little bit like, wow, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Really cool, crazy TikTok handle though, right.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yes, oh no, I think I changed my TikTok handle
to cement the Richard. But on Instagram, we're still miss Richard.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
What do you prefer TikTok Instagram?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I like TikTok. I love Instagram because I love I'm
such a I'm a Libra and I'm such an I
like pretty things, and I feel like Instagram is where
I go for my pretty things. But TikTok is where
I go to be me. I love that, filtered, unfiltered,
all the vlogs, all the thoughts. I love that still
kind of censored though, because I am still a teacher,
(03:27):
don't I've got I've got my colleagues watching, parents of
students watching, and I love that. I love that they watch.
But yeah, oh my god, it's places to be on
the internet. TikTok.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I love I love that.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
For those who are listening in right now, Melissa and
Samantha are we t shirt right now?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It's like we planted or something perfect.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
But someone so close that.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Well I saw headed yea, what is that? I need it?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Ordered it immediately and then I told her, I said,
I've ordered this, thank you for being a little influencer. Yeah,
And I was like, shall we? Shall we both?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
We?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
They look like good quality.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Shout out the version for Alex Alex Alex so she
wanted it, and I was like, you know what my
love language is gift giving. I want to give you
the gift of being someone beautiful.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Well, Sam, you listen to the podcast so you would
know that every episode we share about what we love
about home. So wherever you currently live, wherever you were born,
but you feel most grounded, whatever feels like home, what
is it and what do you love about it? Alyssa
will start us off, and what do you love about
home this week? Girl?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I feel like, because Sam is here, what I love
about home this week? My girls, my sisters. I feel
like recently, especially with the podcast, I have been able
to just like I was thinking about it, yesterday and
I was like, I I feel so supported by like
my big sisters, like my online big sisters, my real
life big sisters who are like my cousins. I don't
have any biological big sisters same, so it's just like
(05:10):
I feel so blessed with all the big sisters that
I've attracted. Like I don't know, like I'm just I
feel that like I don't walk through this world alone
because I grew up pretty much as an only child.
I do have older brothers, but just the advice, unfiltered,
unconditional love and support that I feel like I am
(05:30):
receiving from these like big sisters, it means like so
much to me. And like even on Saturday, Sam was
seeing me all these incredibly amazing voice memos before my
day at work, and it was just like, I'm so
blessed to have like big sisters who love me this.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So I love that I take my role of big
sister really seriously with my biological brother but with anyone
and everyone that I come across. I'm like, let me
be your big sister.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You could be mine.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I am I get a choice, you.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Know what they say in ihood like sisterhood Hannies What
I love about home this week? I love so one
of my aunties. She is a cleaner at Middlemoor Hospital
and she lives about two streets away and every morning,
because she doesn't drive, she walks to work. And she's
been working there for years, to the point where I'll
go into Middle More with her and everyone's saying, oh, Mama, mama, mama,
(06:26):
like dragging her in every witch direction. She holds the
respect of you know, clinicians, doctors, nurses, And I feel
grateful that she has loved on in that in that building.
She's worked there for so many years, and her husband
passed away a few years ago, so I know that
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being in that space and feeling love means a lot
to her. And so just shout out to all the
cleaners out of there, because yeah, mad respect. And I
think it's just the thing that I was We were
probably all taught that, you know, you give the same
respect to the CEO that you woulds are the cleaner.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Absolutely, So shout out to my auntie tie love you, Auntie.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, mad respect for any hospital workers. My brother spent
a lot of time in hospital. I learned how to
read in the hospital. Wow, there a lot as a child.
So they're incredible, absolutely, and they all work together. They
need to to run that place. It's so special. Shout
out to Auntie.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
What do you love about homegrowl Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Okay, So what I love about home is being home.
I've recently moved back out to Westalkland. Westokland is my horse.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Side.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I didn't realize how much West meant to me until
I was living in New Market for a while. And now,
like I said, have moved back out West. I'm in
sort of Glen Eden, Newlyn Holston area. I'm about five
minutes away from four of my cousins, which I love.
I'm five minutes away from the road that my parents
grew up on. They grew up on the same street,
(08:03):
started dating when they were seventeen, been madly in love
ever since. I love my parents so much. The houses
that they grew up in, Their parents stayed in there
until the day they died, so that that street is
so important to us. And now I'm a five minute
drive away from it, and I just I teach out West.
I grew up out West.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I love I really do. I love that you. Yeah,
I think my my hating on West Side era.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
It's done, No, because I now had to.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
You got to stop for my sake.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yes, I feel like we need the West experience. We
need you and Zaria to give it to us. We
will because so far are we stalkm experience has not
been that great.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
And you know what that happens. It is West after all.
But me Andsie will will take you. We'll give you
the full West experience. It'll be fantastics, our real wisdom.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Period. Okay, let's get into the TikTok girl. Okay, so
when did you when and why did you start posting
your teacher blocks?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I yeah, does that feel like ages ago?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Because it was.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I think my first video went up maybe February or
March twenty twenty. Wow for the pandemic. Whoa, we're talking
a while and it was just TikTok was still new.
A friend of mine in our group chat senter TikTok
train that teachers were doing, and she said, do this
with your kids, and so I did it. It was
(09:35):
just a video where I had the camera facing me.
You couldn't see the kids, but you could hear I
was saying a chant. They were saying it back to
me and it blew up. That was the first video
you ever posted, and it got I think it got
like seventy one thousand likes or something.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I feel like back then it was really not easy
to blow up, but like, oh no, it was if
you caught onto a trend early.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Enough, it was a common occurrence.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I feel like now the girls are fighting the viral mob.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
They truly are. So we are pre pandemic twenty twenty.
And you do that.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Train, do that train, and then I thought, Okay, that
was fun. I'm gonna just keep going, and so we did,
and then we went into lockdown. But I do know
I've always been filming myself. I'm so vain. Every single
one of my cousins will tell you that. I just
love talking to the camera.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I love learning things.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I love little video diaries, and it just sort of
keept going. My biggest video is still, I think to
this day, was one of me and my brother on Easter.
I think that year, that twenty twenty, and people just
love videos with my brother. And he's very sweet. He's
down syndrome. His name is Nick. He's the light of
my life. My dad is always kind of saying you
(10:46):
should like film neck more get more like some views, Dad,
I mean maybe, no, you know, I just love it.
And I think teaching is as well. It's such a
bad I don't know. There's so much negative stuff online
regarding and a lot of the time when I'm online,
(11:10):
I see teachers sharing their stories of why they've left
teaching and stuff like that, and I like being more
of a positive spin on teaching in that sort of area.
So it's just fun. It's nice. It's fun.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I feel like we're going to get into the hard
hitting stuff now. I remember seeing a while ago, and
I did comment on this video as well.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I do remember, I do remember, and that is how
I started watching the switches.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Okay, okay, you were you made this TikTok about wanting
to embrace your sound warness and like the things that
you were doing or that you were going to try
to do to embrace your sald onness, and I remember,
I think I commented, like you, this is my belief
is a sad one. There is no criteria to being someone.
You could be like two percent sound warning and still someone,
(11:57):
but the real like if there was a crack, the
criteria would be that you live your life with love, alfa,
by showing respect, and by tea serving your people. And
I was like, as long as you got those three things, girl,
you're fine. What you do you lead with love, you're
so respectful, and you serve your community on a daily
basis as a teacher. That's beautiful. But I would love
to know how is that journey going, What kind of
(12:20):
things are you doing? What have you found out about
yourself so far?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Please tell us all about It has been a journey.
It's been quite a slow journey. So as I was
saying to the two of you before we started recording,
my mum moved here when she was five from Sarmora,
and her and her siblings were kind of not like
fully sat down and told no more sarmor in the household.
But more or less they were told, you know, we're
(12:46):
Kiwis now. And so from there, before my time, we were
already starting to drift away from our culture, which is
so sad. But I don't think that's uncommon, which is
so sad. But in the last two years, so my
mom's mom, Nanasami, she's my namesake, beautiful, she is the light. No,
(13:11):
I can't get emotional She is the light of our
family's life, especially for me, I think, because you know,
she is my namesake, and I'm named after both of
my grandma's spent the fear and her both grandmothers. But
where my brother was born, so I was five, we're
five years and five days apart. So I just started
school and he was super sick. He spent the first
(13:31):
six months of his life in hospital, and that's the
first six months of my schooling life. And so Nanasami,
she sacrificed her time and stayed in hospital with him
so mom and dad wouldn't have to sacrifice my time
and they could be there to parent me. And so
I think when she passed, I felt and all of
(13:51):
us did that, my mom's siblings, my cousins, we all
felt like, oh was that our last tie to our culture,
And we felt a sort of pull to out of
respect for her, make connections back to the culture. And
I think, especially me, with that all that she's done
for me, I wanted to start that journey. And then
(14:12):
we were all sort of like, where do we start
because we don't speak the language. My mom came here
when she was five, didn't go back to some more
until she was fifty five. That was how long it
was between leaving home and going back home. I still
have never been Bizar. I'm going there for my thirtieth birthday.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
So exciting, I think.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I really I'm ready to have my like oh I'm
home kind of one.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
But it will also be okay if you don't have
that moment.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yes, I've told myself that as well. Okay, good, we've
been so to reconnect. I have joined it hasn't started yet,
but I've joined it someone language class.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I'm so nervous it in person. Yes, I think that's
the way to go, because we've tried online, both of us. Yeah,
separately and together, and it's very hard. In person though,
holds you accountable different, I.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Think, so see your mind's in person. I'm so excited
for that, just as also though we've been reconnecting with
the wider family, so we do. We used to do
this when I was a kid, like really young. We
used to have family Bengo once a month.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Oh my gosh. Class.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yes, such a classic and I loved it as a kid,
and I really missed it when it stopped. I don't
even really know why it stopped. To think everyone just
got busy, but that was my mum's dad's side of
the family, and we've reconnected with them since Nana's passing,
and now we do that again and I love it. It's
so much fun. And then just as well, I think
(15:35):
the mind shift, the headspace that I have put myself
in where I have just told myself I am arn't one. Yeah,
like I don't. I don't particularly look it, I don't
particularly sound it. So funny my so Nana, Nana Sami's
dad was full Chinese and so his genes with my
cousins and my generation, it hit. We've got that Asian
(15:57):
look to us. A lot of people think I'm from
the Philippines, and I just rock with it. Sometimes I
can be whatever you want me. Yeah, because I don't
look at and sound it, I sort of felt like, oh, no,
I'm not. But then I don't know. Just something is
shifted where I'm listening to the podcast like this, and
(16:21):
I'm engaging more on social media with other people on
similar journeys to me, and I'm thinking I'm someone period
and it's beautiful and it will be a journey, and
I'm so happy with how the journey has gone so far.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, and I don't think there will ever be a
point where the journey INDs no. So true, Like even
when I received my mum little, which I was like, oh,
this is such an important part of our culture. That
aftermath of that has been really enlightening and like has
been a journey of its own, Like there is just
(16:56):
I don't know, there's just something about being sound worn,
and there's something about culture and how it's away shifting
and changing, and it shifts and changes and it's meaning
for us as well. That means like you're never not
figuring out what being someone means to you. It's literally
a daily challenge. But I think if you choose to
show up like just telling yourself I am someone. Yeah,
(17:16):
I choose to like live out the cultural values, it
doesn't matter if you can't speak the language like we Yeah,
I think as a co court, we really need to
as a community, we need to find new ways to
reinvent what it means to be someone. And that's like
an individual choice. Yeah, so proud of you.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I'm proud of all of us.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
That's so cool. I love how these conversations are being
normalized too, so like more people like aren't feeling like
they're alone in their cultural journey, because I know, like
even for myself, like I am, like I would say,
I'm someone presenting. I walk into a room, you know
that I'm an islander. And the assumption is is that
you know the language, you know everything, you know how
(17:59):
to do this, that and the third. But the fact
of the matter is is that I don't. Yeah, but
I think the fact that we're having this conversation conversation
and we're all sharing our individual experiences helps us all
to grow and move together as one. Yes, look at us,
Oh jeez, I can't wait for you to go to
some where You're.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So going to enjoy it, saying my brother's going, mom's going.
We've told the family they're ready to embrace us, show us,
show us around, and I kind of did at first.
I think when I was telling my friends I'm going
to some more for my birthday, they thought, oh, relaxing holiday, absolutely,
and I would probably like at least one day. It'll
be at the end of term as well, I'll be tired,
(18:41):
so maybe one day relaxing. But I did say them like, no,
I want to go and see where you know, the
family land is and I want to see those graves
in the front yard. Show me, show me the culture.
I'm ready and ready, and your.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Family and some more will be so welcoming to you.
They're going to love that you are going to be there.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I hope, so so welcoming. You have to do all
the fit ols girls. That's not going to be relaxing.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Thank you. You've spoken about your brother, Nick, so tell
us about your guy's special relationship.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
He's beautiful. So we are five years and five days apart.
I think it was a really, in hindsight, like perfect
age gap, because I was just that a little bit
older that I could always understand what was going on.
So he has down syndrome as well as he's had
so many other we call him broken. Oh little Nicky.
He's so broken from his head to his toes. There's
(19:36):
something you know. He's had three holes in his heart.
He was born with his stomach not attached to his intestines,
and he had a tracheotomy for the first three years
of his life. Like he's just he's nonverbal. We also
think he might be autistic as well, just to throw
that in there. But he's just love, like he is
love and a human being and I've always known that,
(20:00):
almost like you know that movie in that book My
Sister's Keeper. I've always kind of such a sad yea,
but I have always felt like, oh im my brother's keeper,
and here's my light. And he's just he's the he's
so proud of being Simon as well. He knows the
Simon flag. He's got a thing with flags, and he
(20:22):
loves waving all blacks flags, warriors flags, Simon flags. So
he calls it a more. That's his way of saying
some more.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
He's the beer. He's just the Is this his first international?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yes, he's not too keen on going on the plane,
but we've kind of figured technically he won't know he's
on the plane because you walk through the tunnel to
get on the plane. So not I don't can done lying.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
To It's just a whole was yeah, which is just
kind of about.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Happens to go in the sky.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Oh my gosh, here's a TV, got a I bought
some stacks.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
That's what we're gonna do. That's gonna be great. And
then he'll get he'll get there and he'll be like
beach amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
There was a long time riding.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
It's so funny. We've kind of spoken about this off mic,
But as a teacher, how important is it to you
to share like your palone mess or your Pacific mess
with your students?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Super important?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I think for my first few years of teaching, I
was just figuring it out. Teaching is a big job.
You're finding your feet those first few years. But I
remember the first time I was speaking to she wasn't
even in my class. It was an older student. I've
always taught juniors. But when I interact with the older
students and I say, oh, I'm simone too, and the
look on her face of like really like she's so excited,
(21:49):
and I thought, oh, this is important. This matters. I
need to representation matters. And I love my school. It
is such an incredible school. I will say that I
am the only pacifica teacher at our school at least
like full time in front of the class, and so
(22:09):
I do think that is really important for me to
represent But it as hard as I put a lot
of pressure on myself. I think, should I be leading
some kind of cultural groups, should I be doing X,
Y and Z with the students. And I think in
the last year I've come to terms with actually just
being proud of being yeah someone and just talking with
(22:32):
them and you know, during all the all of the
language weeks, just like putting it in our little daily
notices for the rest of the school to read like
it's featured language week, and try and say this as
like little things like that they love, they love, and
again because I don't look at when they find out
they're like.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I think also with you being on like your own
cultural journey, it's so much pressure to be like okay,
and now I have to teach a sev even though
I probably never know one of my life you know that.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Was youtubeing the star. I need to get a whole
bunch of love.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Of love is to bring it get to the car stress.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I've really just taken that pressure off myself.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That's a big mantle to carry. And I don't think
you should expect yourself to be you know that brown teacher. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, but it's nice. It's good. It's been good so far.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
That's so cool.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Okay, we're shifting gears now. Okay, Sam and I both
love a.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Girls switching gears.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I want to know all about the single Sam summer.
So you started a series on your TikTok called Single
Sam Summer. Some are just gone, someone just gone, and
as a love a girl, I've struggled. Not okay, I've
been forever, be single forever, and now I'm really embracing
this era of dating and it's really hard because my
(23:58):
heart gets way too invested in an it's too easy.
So can you tell us about your single Sam Summer?
But then also can you give us some big sister
dating advice because I think we both need it.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Okay, got you, got you, guys, I said to you, guys,
I got my first boyfriend at twenty five. Like, I
am such a love girl. I love love. I've been
surrounded by love. My parents are such a beautiful role
model of love. What an example, especially like going through
everything they went through with my brother and just still
turn up for each other. It's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I did have in moments. Okay, I made you and
I have dated lovely boys. Maybe I'm not so lovely,
but that's okay because it's it's a learning, every learning,
always learning. But I think I was always okay being alone.
(24:53):
I was always I was always fine being the single friend.
But with Single Sam Summer, I came out of not
an awful breakup, but a breakup that did kind of
shake me. And I thought, Okay, I don't think it's
enough to be okay alone anymore. I want to thrive alone.
And then if anyone else comes into my life, like,
(25:13):
how lucky for them that they get to be a
part of my beautiful life. And so I just started
romanticizing my life. I just took myself on trips. I
took myself. I sort of pushed myself out of my
comfort zone. I went to the movies by myself, just
to see if I could do it. I ate at
a restaurant by myself. I took a trip in a
plane to the South Island by myself. I killed it.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I did so well.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
It was so much fun. And I think what I
learned about myself was your life is beautiful. Yeah, and
a boy or a girl or whatever, whoever may come
into my life is just a bonus. But by myself,
I'm so fine. I think, as far as advice goes,
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why do you look at me?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I think.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Your friends and family love you, and they're always trying
to give you like the most lovely encouragement and advice.
But you don't need to listen to it. You really don't,
because they will say it will come when you least
expect it yourself.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Everyone's every worry, just work, you know what.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
You know to some degree it is. But it is
okay to sit there and smiling in your heir go.
You have been married ex number of years. You don't
know what it's like here in the trenches. And I think,
just just know that, like you've got so much time,
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You've got so much time, and they're like romantic love. Actually,
going back, I love this saying. I think I saw
this on TikTok, but somebody said romantic love, no self
love is not a substitute for romantic love. And I
liked just hearing that because I thought, Okay, it's okay
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that I'm still craving romantic love. I think I'm an
expert at self love right now. And I was sort
of feeling like, okay, but have done that. I love
myself so much. I look at all the things I've done,
and it wasn't even I wasn't trying to tick boxes
like I genuinely did that because I wanted to thrive,
and I did, but in the back of my mind,
I sort of started having this feeling of, so, does
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that mean, like romantic love is coming now that I've
done that self love, And then I felt guilty, like, no,
you shouldn't need romantic love because you've got self love,
and you've got family love, and you've got friendship love.
I have the best friends in the world, and that
feeling of like, oh, no, am I a terrible person
for thinking that this is not enough? But like, no,
it's it's sometimes it's not enough. Sometimes romantic lover is.
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It's a human need. We need that, ye caveman days,
someone to watch out for the dinosaurs with us exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
But also like we're people of community, right, we need
a community, and sometimes a part of community a couple.
So breckers no, but I totally agree. I think, I no,
I'll tell you off the mic, okay, But I feel like, also, yeah,
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self love is not a substitute for amantic love. Like
it's just not the same, and we need to admit that.
And also I think like sometimes at least at my age,
who will be like, oh, it's such a bad bitch,
like don't worry about and it's like, oh, but I'm
actually not a bad bitch, Like I am a baddie,
but I am also like deep, like very soft. I
love love like all of these things. Literally yeah literally,
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So it's kind of also at the same time, like ah,
like I do kind of crave it.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah that's so fine, Yeah, so fine, Like two things
can be true at once. You can have all the
self love in the world and still crave a little
bit of romantic love. But you've got time. Don't listen
to all the aunties and uncles and cousins and friends
and strangers on the street and strangers on the internet.
Just wait and love yourself and it will come. Thank you,
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Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Shut up. I feel like you're always giving. Obviously everyone
knows if you're listening. Sam gives the best.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
But I have such good advice.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I just think I don't even know what advice I
just gave. I just kind of opened my mouth and
stuff came out.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You know, Miss Rachel, you're like the someone miss Rachel right.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Now, but for adults, for adults, what advice Not that
you would give to us, but you would give to
your little self.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Oh no, I love this. I this is kind of
a therapy thing that I did. But my counselor once
said to me, like, think of seven year old you,
think of seventeen year old you, how would you treat them?
I love thinking back to my little self, and I
feel really proud to say that, actually, me right now
is taking really good care of them. I think to
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seventeen year old me, I would say, honey, chill, it's
you're going to get everything you've ever wanted, but you
might not get it tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I think.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I think when I was young, I was like, this
has to happen by this time. I need to be
married by the time twenty six.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
One hundred, the way we thought we were going to
be married, like right now?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Why did we all think that? Why did I Why
did I think that thirty year olds were like just
ancient people? No, I still feel like I've only just
entered my adulthood and I turned thirty and two months time.
So I think to her, I would say, it's like,
just enjoy it. It's coming, like, have faith in time.
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Just give it time, give it a minute. To seven
year old me, I would say, you're the cutest little
patunity ever. You're such a good big sister. Please stop
wearing that outfit. I was such an outfit repeater as
a kid, I just want to pink purple blue everything. No,
actually you know what she should she should be wearing that.
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But you know, to myself, I think I just have fun,
give it time. Everything's going to work out, and if
it doesn't, you're really strong and you're going to get
through it.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
That part exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
That was good, right, That's good for me, No crumb.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, I guess this takes us into our rapid fire. Now,
so this is the moment we've been waiting for.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Its has got Spetify pulled up on this phone. He's
playing this is Taylor Swift the playlist or the complete
collection or whatever you're playing mares, and we basically get
a minute to guess. But I'm no, not a minute's right.
A second song, but I think you'll surprise yourself.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I'm going to be fine.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I don't know why you're freaking out.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
That's onles. I don't know what song.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
So Sam will go first, and then when mass feels
like time is, you just decide to cut it whenever
you want and then we're gonna go to me. But
it's not a competition. We're just kind of flicking on
everyone about house. Okay, smart I'm.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Really not competitive, so you went anyway.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I'm nervous for you, guys. This is like a taste
little Taylor Swift knowledge.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Okay, we're going to be fine, right, yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Okay Samuel first?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yes, Oh my gosh, do you know what? Are you
ready for it?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Are we going? Sam a second song? Now? Okay?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
This Harry Styles needs to make a cover of the
song that was Style. Yes, and I have been since
the song came out. I have been dreaming of Harry Styles.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Have you heard the AI versions? No, I'm gonna see him.
I think there's a versions.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I need him to sing it. I need him.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
This is such a good song. It's so good.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I'm gagging right now.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
August maybe, Oh my gosh, how could I have forgotten Fergus?
I think that might be one of my favorite songs.
Me and my best friend. Also, I have like a
Bajillian best friends. You guys know I love you all
Me movies are in alex We meet when we're five.
We have started this new tradition where we do an
August Day and on the first weekend of August we
go to Omaha Beach with her little sausage dog and
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we run along the beach screaming the song. It's is
that really?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
This is August?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
My kids say after the song earlier, it's such a
beautiful song. I got the August. So if you haven't
heard August, you need to go listen to August. I
got the August experience in July because I'm just such
an overachiever. Yes, I got the August experience in July.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
To any listeners that don't know what that means, it's
not exactly a good thing.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
No, it's terrible thing. Actually, but what a sleigh.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
In July?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, rather than August itself?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Okay? Is it you want?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'm scared now.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I am like, I'm smiling right now.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Okay, but but Daddy, I love him.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That was good. This is even. I was like, wait,
the Tortured Poets Department, this is her latest?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Are you so upset that we didn't get torture parts up.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
High school?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I need some.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Financial compensation?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Okay, your next check? Alyssa is.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Cardigan?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
What album?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
This from folklore?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
This album changed my life.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It came out at the person.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
My life was very small. This was like during lockdown, right,
it was My lives were small. It didn't take much
to write my world.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Okay, here is your last song.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
This It was legendary mont love of my life alloy mouth.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, maybe got two tortured poets apartment checks.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
How lucky?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Am I so lucky? Lucky?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
You will never understand Maria and you challenge. And on
that note, Sam, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I have loved this. I could have gone on for
another two hours. Oh say maybe one day. You know
how tites a teen minute version and everyone was like,
release the two minute version. Maybe one day we'll release
the two hour vision.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yes, but we're not.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Like, can that be off? The I could not relate
to a single thing, but you.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Smile through the whole thing and we love that. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I want to emotionally support this conversation, didn't she? She did?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Honey, footballs by fellow.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Out in Hindo, shout out to them, and Sam, can
we find you on the socials?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Oh yes, if you'd like to. I am miss Richards.
I think there's an underscore and there's somewhere on Instagram
and then just cement the Richards on TikTok and I
I just do my thing on the come and say hi,
it's quite wholesome stuff, but I love it truly.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Thank you so much girl for joining us. We love you,
I love you.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
And that brings to the end, and that the episode
of Island Rip Akland Waste. I was trying to think
of like a tails of song about saying goodbye, but
I can't thank you one right now to close us off.
Definitely one, and I'll post it on socials if I
can think of it, okay, But other than that, you
on the socials actually at Island Roots, Orkland Ways, and
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we'll see you again next week Thursday for another episode
a bye bye