December 12, 2024 • 29 mins
Ever wondered what it takes to create a podcast series that not only tells stories but makes a real impact? Join us on a journey through the transformative world of 'It Takes Heart,' as we wrap up an incredible first season filled with inspiring tales from healthcare professionals across Australia and beyond. From attracting healthcare workers to rural areas to discovering diverse paths like working at the Olympics, our conversations have uncovered the heart and soul of the healthcare field. The power of community, candid storytelling, and an evolving narrative have shaped our series, and we couldn’t be more excited to continue this journey with a new season on the horizon.
Step behind the curtain with us as we recount the late-night recording sessions, technical hiccups, and unforgettable experiences that shaped our podcasting adventure. Expect plenty of laughter as we share light-hearted anecdotes, from a Gold Coast Titans mix-up to an impromptu clapping session with a guest.
As we gear up for season 2, we’re eager to welcome more voices from the healthcare community in Australia to share their unique stories. We’re open to your suggestions for potential guests, ensuring that we continue to bring meaningful, engaging, and heartfelt discussions to your ears.
This episode of It Takes Heart has CEO of cmr Sam Miklos hosting alongside Head of Talent and Employer Branding, Kate Coomber.
We Care; Music by Waveney Yasso
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Sam Miklos (00:00):
We care for the land and sea.
We care for the energy.
We care for our community.
We care.
Welcome to it Takes Heart.
(00:21):
I'm Sam Miklos and I'm KateCoomba.
We hope you enjoy theseincredible stories of healthcare
professionals making adifference in communities across
Australia and beyond.
Through our conversations, welook to celebrate the spirit of
community and care.
We acknowledge the traditionalcustodians of the land who have
long practised and sharedancient methods of healing,
providing care and support fortheir communities with wisdom
(00:44):
passed down through generations.
Kate Coomber (00:46):
Join us as we explore what it truly means to
take heart.
Welcome to it Takes Heart, thewrap-up the season in review the
reflection we should havethought of the title.
Anyway, it's nice to be herehaving a bit of a chit chat.
(01:09):
We've now we've got our 12thepisode about to drop next week.
Sam Miklos (01:15):
Yeah.
Kate Coomber (01:16):
Which is with Margueritte King.
So that will be crazy thatwe've done 12.
I know.
So this, this is a little bonus13, if it makes it to this.
Everyone's like whoo, If we canedit something together.
Sam Miklos (01:28):
Subscribe or I'll send you the uncut version.
Kate Coomber (01:31):
A little stocking filler perhaps Before we launch
into Season 2, which we're doing.
Sam Miklos (01:37):
We're doing.
Yes, we are, we are Absolutely.
Kate Coomber (01:39):
Which, hopefully, we look forward to getting out
in about February.
Yep, so really greatopportunity.
If there are any healthcareworkers who would love to share
their story, reach out to eitherone of us.
Maybe now that they've got atangible product that they can
listen to, now that we have alibrary of things, they will go.
Sam Miklos (01:56):
I'm in, Whereas shout out to all of our guests
who said yes and we hadn't evennamed the podcast.
Huge amounts of gratitude, wedid it.
Kate Coomber (02:05):
Yeah, huge amounts of gratitude.
We did it.
Yeah, so incredibly grateful,and that's the power of a
network, right, which has beenreally exciting, I think, if we
think back to when you firstsaid let's do a podcast, we just
jumped right in.
What was the thought, why didyou want to do it and how's it
been different to, maybe, whatyou set out?
God?
Sam Miklos (02:25):
was there ever?
Was there a plan?
No, there wasn't.
I just had a.
I've got to do it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm sick of everyone telling meno, but why I want to do it.
I think I genuinely think.
Reading Sonia Henry's book, Iwas like there's so many stories
.
There is this chronic shortageof healthcare workers across the
country and so often we hearthat people go and take these
(02:48):
roles and go.
God, I had no idea I could dothat.
I had no idea.
Or you'll talk to people andthey're not even aware of the
communities, and it doesn't evenhave to be remote communities.
Sometimes it's literally thatthey're not aware of what
Geraldton in WA is like, or it'sjust never been on their radar.
So I thought if we could use itas a way to raise awareness for
(03:10):
different communities.
If you know, as we saw withIndia, if a Gold Coast nurse
goes, I need a change of heart.
I'm just going to leave nursing, or I could go and do travel
nursing and then I will stay inthe profession longer.
You know, I think if we changeone or two of those lives, I
think we'd hit our goals.
Kate Coomber (03:26):
But it's evolved further than that.
I think, I think that wethought we would attract people
to maybe more rural healthcareand I think in the first few
episodes Indy definitely hitthat brief and has inspired so
many people.
But then I think when westarted to speak to more guests
like Ellen as well, I've gotfriends who are healthcare
workers, who have families, andI know that they just thought
(03:47):
that was always for someone likeIndy and I think Ellen really
showcased that it's available tofamilies and you can actually
have a better lifestyle in aregional setting versus the city
that you may have thought wasthe right place for you.
But then, if you think about theconversations with Dinesh and
we talked a lot aroundinclusivity I know for me and my
sort of recruitment team, we'vespoken a lot about that this
(04:09):
year in terms of how do we, howdo we make things more
accessible for people.
So it's really opened up a lotmore conversation.
And then Margueritte, thelatest conversation we had.
Who would have thought that youcould go into healthcare and go
to the Olympics?
Yeah, that was great.
So I think it's just showcasingthe variety of opportunity if
you work in healthcare.
Sam Miklos (04:29):
And telling the stories about these great people
.
You know, I think there's beenso many wonderful.
I'm in Dinesh like gosh.
There's so many incrediblepeople that work in healthcare
and just to be able to shine alight on them I think has been
really lovely.
Kate Coomber (04:44):
Maybe we're a bit like Annabelle and we should
have been hairdressers.
What?
Because we just like thestories.
Sam Miklos (04:49):
Everyone's got a story to tell, so we're not too
blondes.
Maybe one of us should be, youcan be the brunette.
Kate Coomber (04:53):
Yeah, I don't think I could be trusted with a
pair of scissors and a hair.
No, no, but we do.
We love to share their stories.
We're very curious and we wantto know more about people which.
Sam Miklos (05:09):
I think, is any highlights?
I think there's been so many.
I mean meeting.
I remember meeting Dinesh onthat first day.
I mean, you know, I think yousaid to us too, like what do we
know about podcasting?
Zero, yes.
Like, if you think about thatfirst day we didn't do a course,
no, and I remember they werecalling is it the roadcaster?
I started at the roadcaster andI was like what is this?
Kate Coomber (05:31):
thing, the disco lights, I was like what is this
thing?
Sam Miklos (05:33):
Do I have to touch it and am I going to press it?
No, you're not allowed.
Yeah.
Kate Coomber (05:37):
Exactly, don't touch, just stay back.
Sam Miklos (05:40):
But we didn't know so much and I think a highlight
was when you look back on thattime, with Dinesh going really
like minor celebrity.
We knew nothing.
We'd read his book.
I look back on that and I wasjust a fangirl, just smiling at
him like speak to me.
Kate Coomber (05:57):
Yeah, we didn't say a lot, did we that day, but
that was true.
We were such fans and we werenervous to meet him as a star
because we were in awe of whathe's done in his career and what
he continues to do.
But then throw in the mix whenour podcast hosts, it was a bit
of an extra layer there.
Yeah yeah For that day, but Ithink it turned out okay and I
(06:17):
think that he's obviously justso gracious.
Sam Miklos (06:21):
Yeah, he's been a great connection to have made
and, I'm sure, a friend of manyyears to come and I think, um
you know, so many of those chatswere just like funny, like
hearing Ellen and Nigel had uslaughing.
Ellen had me emotional.
Um, I loved Indy like god.
I just adore her like seeingwhat she's done and um watching
(06:42):
her travel around, just all ofit.
Kate Coomber (06:46):
Mara Davey, like she was like you know, thank you
.
Sam Miklos (06:49):
I would never have done this and I've gotten out
there and had a crack at beingon a podcast, Like I think it
was.
I think a highlight was to somany people had never done
anything like that and seeingthem just blossom and lean into
it and have a chat.
Kate Coomber (07:02):
I really loved that, and then to see the I
guess the uptake for them to seelike people have really
resonated with their stories andI think that's really beautiful
for our candidates that havetaken the time.
And then I think, if you thinkLesley, Lesley Woolf, like so,
so beautiful, such an incrediblewoman, and that entire chat
(07:23):
before we actually startedrolling about because we tried
to fly her in the night before,we said we'll fly you in, come
and stay in a hotel.
We'll come in into the officeand meet the team the next day.
She was like no, no, I'll justlet you just come in that
morning.
So she'd gone from Maningridato Darwin, darwin to Brisbane.
Our team had picked her up fromthe airport with Meg who came
down from Mackay, flew into theoffice at a cuppa ready to go.
Sam Miklos (07:47):
Yeah, she was amazing.
I feel like there was so manyof the pre-chats that happened
that didn't even make it.
Kate Coomber (07:55):
Well, they're going to make this.
They're going to make this?
I think so.
Sam Miklos (07:56):
And there was some really funny ones and there was
some where it was like, oh, stoptalking.
Stop talking Like this, likethis is what we want to hear,
and you know we would miss that.
But yeah, lesley, people likeLeslie where they are just so
inspiring, and there's, I thinkwhat's really struck me too is,
you know, people have spokenabout people who aren't in
healthcare are enjoying hearingthese stories, you know, my old
(08:20):
neighbour shout out to you,maddie.
He was like I'm loving it, let'sdo it at work.
He doesn't need to be you know.
So I think people have enjoyedjust hearing the human stories.
Kate Coomber (08:29):
So let's think back to the go live of it Takes
Heart.
We were moving office.
We went live on the office dateno that was end of financial
year.
Sam Miklos (08:42):
We moved office.
It was a week or two after.
Kate Coomber (08:43):
And then we went live, because it was too much to
do in one week, but we werelike, let's just do it two weeks
later.
For me, that was probably oneof the biggest months that I've
had at CMR for a long, long time, because there was really big
deadlines and we wanted to begreat and we didn't know what we
were doing.
Yeah, my poor husband, gosh,what would we have done with
(09:07):
that?
Brad, like you, literally, wereracing to my house at nine
o'clock at night once we got thekids to bed to stand in a
makeshift cupboard and try andre-record.
Sam Miklos (09:30):
Put blankets around their heads.
Kate Coomber (09:32):
Try and re-record I'll-record I'll find some
photos try and re-record some umedits for the intros because,
we suddenly, as we started torecord episodes, suddenly
realized this is what it is.
Sam Miklos (09:43):
This is this.
Kate Coomber (09:44):
We haven't written that classic samantha mcloss of
continuous improvement we'reabout to go live.
Sam Miklos (09:49):
No, let's re-record.
It's also like didn't thinkabout that, didn't think, let's
just do.
Let's not think that was a lot.
Kate Coomber (09:57):
It was Sorry, but we just knew we wanted it to be
as great as it could be.
Yeah, for the people who hadsaid yes.
Sam Miklos (10:05):
Yeah, I didn't want to disappoint people who had
given their time to speak to us.
I was like, if we can't makethis feel really schmick for
them, and yeah, I want them tobe proud, yeah.
Kate Coomber (10:21):
And send it out to everyone.
But I know it was a lot, but itwas really nice to be working
so closely with you because it'dbeen a long time since we'd
probably had a project where weworked so closely together after
hours In a really confinedspace In a booth.
Sam Miklos (10:31):
In a booth and we had, you know, I think, when you
look back, like there's been somany of those, we had that day
where we did a whole day ofrecording, do you remember?
And we had all the techproblems, yes, and we had the
delay and the lag and we weretrying to push through and then
we were just like we've got tocall it, like this is not.
Kate Coomber (10:49):
We didn't even have this space, we were out in
a different area and you knowthere was a lot that happened
and we've had some guests whohave been so kind and we've done
a re-record or we're booked todo a re-record because we've
really realised that here inperson.
Sam Miklos (11:05):
it's nice to actually engage it's where it
feels great.
Kate Coomber (11:08):
And we will always do them on teams et cetera when
we need to, but this isdefinitely a preferred setting
where we can actually have a bitmore of a conversation.
Sam Miklos (11:16):
Yeah.
Kate Coomber (11:18):
And so we've.
If anyone's noticed, there's asong overlay to all of the
episodes and we partnered withWaveney Yasso, an incredibly
talented Indigenous artist herein Brisbane who I think you'd
seen perform at some events thatyou've been to.
Yeah, at some events yeah, andyou were like, yeah, we need to
(11:38):
get her involved.
Yeah, so we had this brilliantworkshop.
We put the call out for ourteam if anyone would like to be
involved, and we were going tobuild an acknowledgement of
country in song for CMR.
That's really special to us andmeans what we think and what we
feel.
And so now that overlay ofevery episode.
(11:58):
I think it's really beautifuland people are certainly
commenting.
It's a catchy song.
Sam Miklos (12:03):
It's a beautiful song.
She did such a nice job, Ithink you know when she launched
that song.
Is that what it is?
Kate Coomber (12:12):
Yeah, and when she came in and she was playing in
the town hall when everybodyarrived at the lifts, like that
was really special, it wasbeautiful.
Sam Miklos (12:18):
And then people are getting emotional and listening
to that, Like she did.
I know you and I are a lot towork with.
I'm sure she found us veryhectic and if you're listening
Waveney, I am so sorry, but I'mso grateful.
She is an artist and she didsuch a good job and I'm really
grateful for the outcome.
Kate Coomber (12:36):
Yeah, so I think of you know the project of the
podcast.
There's been so many incrediblethings to come of that.
Even if you think about, we nowhave that which can be overlaid
to everything that we do, andthat's really special Charities.
Yeah, there's a lot, so I can'teven remember how this came
about when we first startedplanning to donate $500 with
(13:00):
every episode of this firstseason to a charity of the guest
choice.
Why did you want to do that?
Sam Miklos (13:07):
I felt that if there was a hook, maybe it might you
know, because we had no productto go on.
Kate Coomber (13:15):
We didn't think anyone would say yes, I didn't
think anyone would say yes, Likecome here, what's it called?
Sam Miklos (13:20):
We don't have a name for it.
We don't have a name.
I felt like if there wassomething that people were
connected to, then they might bemore willing to come and speak
and be a part of this.
But equally, I'm really keen tohear about, I guess, the
charities that are close to ourcommunity's heart, and there's
(13:42):
been some charities that youwouldn't have even known of.
And there's a lot of bigcharities out there, but there's
also a lot of little ones, andthere's equally, you know,
health services where that moneycould make such an incredible
difference.
So I just wanted to throw itout to the floor a bit just to
see who we heard about.
You know, as a business, we'realways looking to align and
(14:02):
support different charities andhear about different
organisations and associations,and if we could just be
connected with one more, thatmight make a difference or, you
know, redirect the work that wedo.
I was just, I was all in for it, yeah.
Kate Coomber (14:18):
I'm really proud of that.
To even learn about some ofthese charities, you know I
spoke to the wonderful women atthe Rural Doctors Foundation
last week and I didn't evenrealise the campaigns that they
run of sending healthprofessionals out to the rural
sites, because who cares for thedoctors out?
There and the nurses out there,so I think it's been a really
wonderful learning yeah.
Sam Miklos (14:39):
What have you loved?
Kate Coomber (14:41):
What have I loved?
Looking back now and I said toyou we're doing it you know, you
kind of made it happen.
Sam Miklos (14:47):
I just went along for the ride.
I mean it's been prettystressful for you.
No group effort, I just rolledin.
Kate Coomber (14:51):
I think a huge shout out to the team who have
helped.
Yeah, we've had an incrediblegroup.
I think Our producer, sarahyeah, producer Sarah, sarah
McAuliffe has really helped us.
Sam Miklos (15:02):
She was probably the first conversation we had where
she was like we can do this andwe can do this quick.
Yes, I think we would havedilly-dallied without her just
going get in, let's do it, let'sdo it.
So thank you, thank you so much.
Kate Coomber (15:13):
Sarah, I think, working with Bright Yellow to
make sure we can pull the designtogether All the tiles changing
the order.
Sam Miklos (15:21):
all the time on there Shout out to Bright,
yellow.
Kate Coomber (15:23):
Yeah, we've been really really difficult,
difficult, um, and I guessMonique and our team off the
back of that, because shecoordinates all of that and she
has been there, um, oh gosh,bless her, that photo shoot that
we did she was there.
I think she learned a lot aboutus that day.
(15:56):
I think we learned a lot aboutus that day.
I think it's just been so goodto connect with our community on
a regular basis and give them avoice to share their story.
I think that's been my absolutefavourite thing.
I think we've upskilledincredibly this year.
I mean the tech behind runninga podcast.
(16:19):
I had no idea about and I thinkwhat it Shout out to your
husband, brad, too, for alsohelping us with this.
Sam Miklos (16:26):
Yeah dealing with my very late night, which is great
.
Kate Coomber (16:29):
Dealing with my really last night panics.
When you think you know whatyou're doing and then it just
doesn't work.
There's been a lot of that, butit's been a lot of fun.
I think everything you do youhave a lot of fun with, and this
is no we definitely laughed alot and had a lot of very
typical awkward moments, but fun.
(16:50):
If we swear, is that bad?
Yeah, okay, yeah, there you go.
Don't swear, oh my God, let'sgo.
Sam Miklos (17:00):
Sorry, I'm Sam Miklos, your host.
Who am I, your?
Kate Coomber (17:05):
host.
You're the host.
Sam Miklos (17:06):
Technology is not my thing.
There we go, that's okay.
It's not our thing either.
Kate Coomber (17:10):
Don't be fooled by all of this.
Sam Miklos (17:12):
We have other people helping.
Thank you.
Kate Coomber (17:15):
My lovely, sexy voice on for you From Geraldton
in Western Australia toCrocodile Island in the north.
Sorry, what happened?
Sam Miklos (17:24):
Did you?
Kate Coomber (17:25):
just feel it.
What happened to you then?
Sorry, I could just thinking ofthe crocodile, did you just
realize?
Sam Miklos (17:29):
What happened to you then?
Sorry, I could just feel you.
Is someone going to bulge inthat door behind you?
Are we going to have someonerunning in?
No, look, the clinic closesfrom 12 off to 1, so that's why
I had it this time.
But the clinic is closed onThursday mornings.
Anyway, okay, awesome, awesome,awesome, hang on one second.
I was like awesome, hang on onesecond.
Kate Coomber (17:52):
Co-host Kate Coomber head of talent and
employer branding at Cornerstone, I was going to say you were
about to laugh.
Sam Miklos (18:05):
Celebrate, okay, okay, sorry, should, should we
just take a stop?
Should we just like click it in?
Kate Coomber (18:11):
So do you listen to the episodes front to back?
Never you know.
Sam Miklos (18:17):
And not because I just can't listen.
I can't listen to myself.
It's hard.
I really appreciate you doingit on our behalf, but it's just
I can't.
In the conversations I'm alwaysfrantically taking notes and
thinking about what it means,but also we get really great
ideas from them.
So I do, I do a lot in themoment, but I cannot listen to
(18:39):
my own podcast.
Kate Coomber (18:42):
Norbert listens and he gives you feedback.
He does.
Sam Miklos (18:44):
And so do my parents .
Dad's like, stop saying, like,stop saying yep, yep, yep.
So thank you, dad, for thefeedback.
Kate Coomber (18:49):
Yeah, no, we definitely get a bit of family
feedback.
So there's one moment that Iremember that really made me
laugh.
Well, not in the moment, itdidn't make me laugh, it
terrified me.
I didn't know what to do.
It was the first thing we'dever recorded.
It was with Dr Dinesh Palapana.
We were.
(19:09):
He was talking to his charity,I think, which was Titans
Together, and so as soon as youstart talking, I assumed it was
football.
Sam Miklos (19:13):
I was lost.
Kate Coomber (19:13):
I was sitting there just waiting for Sam to
carry it, because I don't knowwhat anyone's talking about and
then I can't remember whathappened?
We'll have to definitely putthis in.
Sam Miklos (19:25):
He said he was giving no.
I don't want to say this,because did it make?
Kate Coomber (19:29):
it no.
Did you cut it out?
Well, because there wasn't areaction and it just didn't make
sense.
There was no context.
So, but I think now, so, inreflection, he was giving his
money to the Titans, which is anNRL team, apparently yes, yes,
but you made a joke at me at thetime when we were recording
(19:49):
that it's an AFL team and Idon't know what I'm talking
about and I was sitting there soconfused because I was pretty
sure we just talked about NRL.
You were taking a dig at me butI didn't know what was going on
.
I lent him so hard for it.
You really did.
Sam Miklos (20:02):
I genuinely felt like it was an AFL team.
I, you really did.
Kate Coomber (20:05):
I genuinely felt like it was an AFL team.
Sam Miklos (20:06):
I don't even know what I was thinking, I just was
in the moment and then he didn'tcorrect me no.
Kate Coomber (20:10):
So then I was like I'm right, because he's so kind
, he was so polite about it, andit wasn't until after that I
was like when he left oh my gosh, so then you reached out to him
, I did.
Sam Miklos (20:20):
I was so embarrassed To.
Kate Coomber (20:22):
I don't know if I can say anything.
Sam Miklos (20:23):
He was just like watching you and I and you were
like what is going on hereHaving a moment.
Kate Coomber (20:28):
Who is this?
Oh, that was funny.
Sport is really important andit's a good vehicle, especially
in Australia, where it's beenour national language for so
long to do that.
So yeah, the Gold Coast Titanswould be the one, and their
charitable arm.
Sam Miklos (20:46):
Amazing.
Kate Coomber (20:47):
Is NRL your favourite sport, that's.
Sam Miklos (20:50):
AFL or do you have a ?
You're in the tip.
Kate Coomber (20:53):
That's why you're in the bottom of the tipping.
I know Because you have no ideawhat you're tipping.
Sam Miklos (20:56):
I know what I'm tipping.
Kate Coomber (20:58):
That's hilarious.
Sam Miklos (21:01):
She goes with her colours.
When she's tipping, I do, Ilike it.
You have blue today, I like it.
When she's tipping, I do.
I'm a bit of that, yeah, bluetoday.
Kate Coomber (21:07):
And then another really funny bit there's quite a
few sort of had to be theremoments, right?
So the last one we justrecorded with Marguerite King.
So we don't have yet a clapperboard to start each episode.
We're told that you need to doa bit of a clap to sync the
audio with the video.
Sam Miklos (21:23):
Look at you.
So technical I know somethinglike that.
Kate Coomber (21:26):
Anyway, so the last one we did, we didn't
really we didn't share with anyof them really, which is
actually a big fail, and weshould do that going forward.
You just said right, we've gotto clap.
No, I think I just startedclapping, you just started
clapping.
And so again, such a kind,polite guest just started
clapping with you.
We're all just in here, justlike clapping at each other.
Sam Miklos (21:47):
Okay, we need to clap, don't we?
We need, to like a Were yougoing to clap with us?
Kate Coomber (21:54):
That was so funny.
This is actually my first time,so I'm just like, oh okay, Am I
making a big mistake?
Sam Miklos (22:00):
Oh my God, that was actually my favourite.
I do hope that's recorded,because that is my favourite
moment of all of our episodes.
I'm like are we all in sync?
Kate Coomber (22:07):
I'm assuming I'm going to be in sync with you, do
we?
Not tell you that we're dancing.
Sam Miklos (22:11):
Look, whatever it takes, really.
Oh, my God that is so funnyLiterally.
Kate Coomber (22:19):
I used to be doing what I'm told, so you know,
I'll laugh it out.
Sam Miklos (22:22):
That has literally made my day.
Oh my God.
Kate Coomber (22:24):
I'm so sorry Thinking that we all need to do
it.
Sam Miklos (22:30):
It's just so funny because it was not Anyway.
So the retakes.
We've learned a lot.
What has been good is.
I don't think we've had to editout.
We haven't edited Other thanthat, dinesh thing with the
football.
Kate Coomber (22:41):
There's been a little bit of maybe you know a
coughing fit here and there thatwe may have dropped in order
for someone to get some waterand survive.
Sam Miklos (22:50):
But the conversations have been real and
flowed, yeah.
Kate Coomber (22:52):
I think Sarah's been really wonderful to guide
us around that of people justwant to see the real
conversation and not the editedversion.
So we've really tried to dothat as best we can.
But there's definitely beensome behind the scenes that have
been really funny, and thisyear particularly, I think, at
CMR.
I think everyone will feel atCMR it's been a very, very big
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year.
Stop it.
That's every year.
Right, it is every year, butthis year has just been a little
bit extra and I think it's beenreally nice to still have some
comedic relief.
Sam Miklos (23:24):
This has been very funny In a closed room, yes.
So what are we going to dodifferent next season?
Kate Coomber (23:31):
Next season, because we've already got a lot
of guests lined up.
We do.
We are definitely looking formore at the moment, though, and
really important to us, ifyou're listening to this and you
want to come and have a chat tous, please reach out.
Sam Miklos (23:40):
Or if you know someone who's got a really great
story, really great story, yes,we'd love to hear from them.
Kate Coomber (23:44):
Definitely, anyone working in healthcare within
Australia would be great.
I think it's really excitingWe've now got the studio set up
so that we can bring people inyeah, whenever they're available
now and spend time yeah.
So they can reach out to us,and I think it's just continuing
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these great conversations offinding out about them and their
story.
What I love is that this isn'tabout CMR, no, or about us.
This is about the guest and whatthey bring and what they've
done and how can they helpothers.
Yeah, all the gaps, all ofthose things, which is really
exciting.
Sam Miklos (24:21):
But appreciative of being brought on the journey no
thank you.
We would not have had it if notfor you.
If, honestly, like I, mightdrop an idea but you grab it and
turn it into something like yougot all the studio.
You had all the connections Ithought I was producing the
podcast.
Kate Coomber (24:35):
I didn't know that I was on the podcast when you
asked me to do this and help you.
Sam Miklos (24:40):
Just got to be in a room of my own.
Kate Coomber (24:41):
Yes, I genuinely thought that I would be pressing
the buttons and I'd be preppingsome people and I would try and
figure out what is a podcast,and it was literally the week
before we started.
Well, I knew that you wanted meto interview you on that first
episode to get to know you.
Sam Miklos (24:56):
I did not want to be interviewed on the first
episode.
You were like you've got to doone on the first one, but I was
happy to like-.
Sarah told us we had to do that.
Kate Coomber (25:01):
So I knew I was doing that.
But then when we went tointerview Dinesh and then a
couple more that day, I didn'tknow until the week before that
I was on it with you, details,details.
I kind of just assumed you were.
Sam Miklos (25:12):
No, we couldn't.
Kate Coomber (25:13):
No, that was an internal monologue that you had
with yourself.
That was the conversation youhad at home.
I felt like we talked aboutthat.
No, we didn't.
Oh God, is that a new job?
Sam Miklos (25:19):
description.
No, I felt like Like I couldn'thave done it without you.
I think I'm not the detailsdetails planner and you know
you've done so much work before,so many of the interviews, all
the questions, and I know Ispoof in and go.
No, I think the direction'sover here Change it.
It's fun and it's happening inan hour.
I know I do that a lot, but Ithink together that's what we've
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been able to get.
Kate Coomber (25:41):
You know, those 12 episodes were done in record
time, like oh, there was one daywe filmed like four episodes in
a day and a promo, do you?
Sam Miklos (25:52):
remember we had the oh God, we had to do that video.
We had that team come in.
We didn't know what was goingon and I fell off the chair and
I couldn't get my headset on.
Kate Coomber (25:59):
I didn't understand the purpose of what
that was for, so we didn't knowwhat.
Sam Miklos (26:02):
Maybe that was an internal monologue that.
Kate Coomber (26:04):
I had as well and I didn't tell you about I missed
that memo.
Sam Miklos (26:06):
I might have been off at that meeting that was.
That was a really big day, so,but I feel like I'm super
grateful.
Kate Coomber (26:12):
Yeah, and we learned to reign it back yeah,
we did, we did.
Actually, we were like we can'tdo too much, we don't have the
energy but three in a day, threein a day.
Sam Miklos (26:19):
I'm like next year we just do one and we do it
really well.
Yes, but no, but no, it's beenreally good.
I'm really grateful.
I think I'm really proud of theoutcome.
I have loved the conversationsthat have come from each episode
and, you know, just for ourteam here to be able to be so
proud of these great stories anduse them to do more great work,
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I think is incredible and yeahall the charities that have come
.
It's been fun.
It's been really of all thethings this year.
It has been a very intense year.
I will give you that, but I'vereally enjoyed these moments,
like the lead up to each one isstressful, yes, and as they
finish we go, yeah.
Kate Coomber (27:04):
Yeah, it is a good feeling when you finish that
and I think that we have gotbetter.
Sam Miklos (27:09):
We have got better In Dinesh Like if you think
about Dinesh, our audience cantell us that At least we speak
now, whereas in Dinesh we werejust like, oh my gosh you just
speak to me.
Kate Coomber (27:16):
speak to me, NRL.
Sam Miklos (27:18):
I don't know what's happening here, but I'm just
like Try to be cool.
Kate Coomber (27:23):
But when we spoke to Marguerite on the last one, I
felt that we felt better.
Yes, We'd come a long way.
Sam Miklos (27:31):
Lucky Marguerite for the last one.
Kate Coomber (27:34):
Yeah, she was wonderful.
But because it's also hard,because we have so much to say
and it's been the big challengefor me is sitting quiet.
And you're writing down tellingme what to say, and I was like
I don't know what she's saying,I'm talking right now, I can't
read that at the same time.
Yeah, um, but I think that,yeah, because we do say a lot.
Just trying to not talk at thesame time is hard yeah, so maybe
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next year we're going to talkless.
Sam Miklos (28:01):
Yes, all right, let's see how we go, and get a
new wardrobe you stop dressinglike me.
Kate Coomber (28:07):
You stop dressing like me.
Sam Miklos (28:08):
I'm literally like this is a lot.
Yeah, I think we'll need to getlike a complete.
Kate Coomber (28:11):
I think people who know you will know that you're
often like, oh, where's thatfrom?
Sam Miklos (28:15):
alright, I'm not much for the research, I just
want to know where I need to go.
Alright, we'll be differentnext year, but I think.
Alright, I think next yearwe've got some really good
stories coming.
Please, if you've got otherpeople, let us know.
Kate Coomber (28:29):
And yeah, thank you, it's been really fun.
It's been really fun, I'veenjoyed it.
Sam Miklos (28:32):
Is that a wrap?
That is a wrap, do we?
Clap Like a real wrap.
Is it a clap or a clacker?
Kate Coomber (28:37):
Wrap of the season .
Where's the confetti?
Like, this is the moment we'redone, but this is our wrap party
.
That's what it is.
It's our wrap party, is that it?
This is like the saddest partyI've ever been to, but I mean
it's been really fun.
We've got the disco lights butno disco.
Sam Miklos (28:51):
No, it's all right.
All right, that was fun.
Yeah, thanks for the year.
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Welcome to it Takes Heart, thewrap-up the season in review the
reflection we should havethought of the title.
Anyway, it's nice to be herehaving a bit of a chit chat.
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We've now we've got our 12thepisode about to drop next week.
Sam Miklos (01:15):
Yeah.
Kate Coomber (01:16):
Which is with Margueritte King.
So that will be crazy thatwe've done 12.
I know.
So this, this is a little bonus13, if it makes it to this.
Everyone's like whoo, If we canedit something together.
Sam Miklos (01:28):
Subscribe or I'll send you the uncut version.
Kate Coomber (01:31):
A little stocking filler perhaps Before we launch
into Season 2, which we're doing.
Sam Miklos (01:37):
We're doing.
Yes, we are, we are Absolutely.
Kate Coomber (01:39):
Which, hopefully, we look forward to getting out
in about February.
Yep, so really greatopportunity.
If there are any healthcareworkers who would love to share
their story, reach out to eitherone of us.
Maybe now that they've got atangible product that they can
listen to, now that we have alibrary of things, they will go.
Sam Miklos (01:56):
I'm in, Whereas shout out to all of our guests
who said yes and we hadn't evennamed the podcast.
Huge amounts of gratitude, wedid it.
Kate Coomber (02:05):
Yeah, huge amounts of gratitude.
We did it.
Yeah, so incredibly grateful,and that's the power of a
network, right, which has beenreally exciting, I think, if we
think back to when you firstsaid let's do a podcast, we just
jumped right in.
What was the thought, why didyou want to do it and how's it
been different to, maybe, whatyou set out?
God?
Sam Miklos (02:25):
was there ever?
Was there a plan?
No, there wasn't.
I just had a.
I've got to do it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm sick of everyone telling meno, but why I want to do it.
I think I genuinely think.
Reading Sonia Henry's book, Iwas like there's so many stories
.
There is this chronic shortageof healthcare workers across the
country and so often we hearthat people go and take these
(02:48):
roles and go.
God, I had no idea I could dothat.
I had no idea.
Or you'll talk to people andthey're not even aware of the
communities, and it doesn't evenhave to be remote communities.
Sometimes it's literally thatthey're not aware of what
Geraldton in WA is like, or it'sjust never been on their radar.
So I thought if we could use itas a way to raise awareness for
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different communities.
If you know, as we saw withIndia, if a Gold Coast nurse
goes, I need a change of heart.
I'm just going to leave nursing, or I could go and do travel
nursing and then I will stay inthe profession longer.
You know, I think if we changeone or two of those lives, I
think we'd hit our goals.
Kate Coomber (03:26):
But it's evolved further than that.
I think, I think that wethought we would attract people
to maybe more rural healthcareand I think in the first few
episodes Indy definitely hitthat brief and has inspired so
many people.
But then I think when westarted to speak to more guests
like Ellen as well, I've gotfriends who are healthcare
workers, who have families, andI know that they just thought
(03:47):
that was always for someone likeIndy and I think Ellen really
showcased that it's available tofamilies and you can actually
have a better lifestyle in aregional setting versus the city
that you may have thought wasthe right place for you.
But then, if you think about theconversations with Dinesh and
we talked a lot aroundinclusivity I know for me and my
sort of recruitment team, we'vespoken a lot about that this
(04:09):
year in terms of how do we, howdo we make things more
accessible for people.
So it's really opened up a lotmore conversation.
And then Margueritte, thelatest conversation we had.
Who would have thought that youcould go into healthcare and go
to the Olympics?
Yeah, that was great.
So I think it's just showcasingthe variety of opportunity if
you work in healthcare.
Sam Miklos (04:29):
And telling the stories about these great people
.
You know, I think there's beenso many wonderful.
I'm in Dinesh like gosh.
There's so many incrediblepeople that work in healthcare
and just to be able to shine alight on them I think has been
really lovely.
Kate Coomber (04:44):
Maybe we're a bit like Annabelle and we should
have been hairdressers.
What?
Because we just like thestories.
Sam Miklos (04:49):
Everyone's got a story to tell, so we're not too
blondes.
Maybe one of us should be, youcan be the brunette.
Kate Coomber (04:53):
Yeah, I don't think I could be trusted with a
pair of scissors and a hair.
No, no, but we do.
We love to share their stories.
We're very curious and we wantto know more about people which.
Sam Miklos (05:09):
I think, is any highlights?
I think there's been so many.
I mean meeting.
I remember meeting Dinesh onthat first day.
I mean, you know, I think yousaid to us too, like what do we
know about podcasting?
Zero, yes.
Like, if you think about thatfirst day we didn't do a course,
no, and I remember they werecalling is it the roadcaster?
I started at the roadcaster andI was like what is this?
Kate Coomber (05:31):
thing, the disco lights, I was like what is this
thing?
Sam Miklos (05:33):
Do I have to touch it and am I going to press it?
No, you're not allowed.
Yeah.
Kate Coomber (05:37):
Exactly, don't touch, just stay back.
Sam Miklos (05:40):
But we didn't know so much and I think a highlight
was when you look back on thattime, with Dinesh going really
like minor celebrity.
We knew nothing.
We'd read his book.
I look back on that and I wasjust a fangirl, just smiling at
him like speak to me.
Kate Coomber (05:57):
Yeah, we didn't say a lot, did we that day, but
that was true.
We were such fans and we werenervous to meet him as a star
because we were in awe of whathe's done in his career and what
he continues to do.
But then throw in the mix whenour podcast hosts, it was a bit
of an extra layer there.
Yeah yeah For that day, but Ithink it turned out okay and I
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think that he's obviously justso gracious.
Sam Miklos (06:21):
Yeah, he's been a great connection to have made
and, I'm sure, a friend of manyyears to come and I think, um
you know, so many of those chatswere just like funny, like
hearing Ellen and Nigel had uslaughing.
Ellen had me emotional.
Um, I loved Indy like god.
I just adore her like seeingwhat she's done and um watching
(06:42):
her travel around, just all ofit.
Kate Coomber (06:46):
Mara Davey, like she was like you know, thank you
.
Sam Miklos (06:49):
I would never have done this and I've gotten out
there and had a crack at beingon a podcast, Like I think it
was.
I think a highlight was to somany people had never done
anything like that and seeingthem just blossom and lean into
it and have a chat.
Kate Coomber (07:02):
I really loved that, and then to see the I
guess the uptake for them to seelike people have really
resonated with their stories andI think that's really beautiful
for our candidates that havetaken the time.
And then I think, if you thinkLesley, Lesley Woolf, like so,
so beautiful, such an incrediblewoman, and that entire chat
(07:23):
before we actually startedrolling about because we tried
to fly her in the night before,we said we'll fly you in, come
and stay in a hotel.
We'll come in into the officeand meet the team the next day.
She was like no, no, I'll justlet you just come in that
morning.
So she'd gone from Maningridato Darwin, darwin to Brisbane.
Our team had picked her up fromthe airport with Meg who came
down from Mackay, flew into theoffice at a cuppa ready to go.
Sam Miklos (07:47):
Yeah, she was amazing.
I feel like there was so manyof the pre-chats that happened
that didn't even make it.
Kate Coomber (07:55):
Well, they're going to make this.
They're going to make this?
I think so.
Sam Miklos (07:56):
And there was some really funny ones and there was
some where it was like, oh, stoptalking.
Stop talking Like this, likethis is what we want to hear,
and you know we would miss that.
But yeah, lesley, people likeLeslie where they are just so
inspiring, and there's, I thinkwhat's really struck me too is,
you know, people have spokenabout people who aren't in
healthcare are enjoying hearingthese stories, you know, my old
(08:20):
neighbour shout out to you,maddie.
He was like I'm loving it, let'sdo it at work.
He doesn't need to be you know.
So I think people have enjoyedjust hearing the human stories.
Kate Coomber (08:29):
So let's think back to the go live of it Takes
Heart.
We were moving office.
We went live on the office dateno that was end of financial
year.
Sam Miklos (08:42):
We moved office.
It was a week or two after.
Kate Coomber (08:43):
And then we went live, because it was too much to
do in one week, but we werelike, let's just do it two weeks
later.
For me, that was probably oneof the biggest months that I've
had at CMR for a long, long time, because there was really big
deadlines and we wanted to begreat and we didn't know what we
were doing.
Yeah, my poor husband, gosh,what would we have done with
(09:07):
that?
Brad, like you, literally, wereracing to my house at nine
o'clock at night once we got thekids to bed to stand in a
makeshift cupboard and try andre-record.
Sam Miklos (09:30):
Put blankets around their heads.
Kate Coomber (09:32):
Try and re-record I'll-record I'll find some
photos try and re-record some umedits for the intros because,
we suddenly, as we started torecord episodes, suddenly
realized this is what it is.
Sam Miklos (09:43):
This is this.
Kate Coomber (09:44):
We haven't written that classic samantha mcloss of
continuous improvement we'reabout to go live.
Sam Miklos (09:49):
No, let's re-record.
It's also like didn't thinkabout that, didn't think, let's
just do.
Let's not think that was a lot.
Kate Coomber (09:57):
It was Sorry, but we just knew we wanted it to be
as great as it could be.
Yeah, for the people who hadsaid yes.
Sam Miklos (10:05):
Yeah, I didn't want to disappoint people who had
given their time to speak to us.
I was like, if we can't makethis feel really schmick for
them, and yeah, I want them tobe proud, yeah.
Kate Coomber (10:21):
And send it out to everyone.
But I know it was a lot, but itwas really nice to be working
so closely with you because it'dbeen a long time since we'd
probably had a project where weworked so closely together after
hours In a really confinedspace In a booth.
Sam Miklos (10:31):
In a booth and we had, you know, I think, when you
look back, like there's been somany of those, we had that day
where we did a whole day ofrecording, do you remember?
And we had all the techproblems, yes, and we had the
delay and the lag and we weretrying to push through and then
we were just like we've got tocall it, like this is not.
Kate Coomber (10:49):
We didn't even have this space, we were out in
a different area and you knowthere was a lot that happened
and we've had some guests whohave been so kind and we've done
a re-record or we're booked todo a re-record because we've
really realised that here inperson.
Sam Miklos (11:05):
it's nice to actually engage it's where it
feels great.
Kate Coomber (11:08):
And we will always do them on teams et cetera when
we need to, but this isdefinitely a preferred setting
where we can actually have a bitmore of a conversation.
Sam Miklos (11:16):
Yeah.
Kate Coomber (11:18):
And so we've.
If anyone's noticed, there's asong overlay to all of the
episodes and we partnered withWaveney Yasso, an incredibly
talented Indigenous artist herein Brisbane who I think you'd
seen perform at some events thatyou've been to.
Yeah, at some events yeah, andyou were like, yeah, we need to
(11:38):
get her involved.
Yeah, so we had this brilliantworkshop.
We put the call out for ourteam if anyone would like to be
involved, and we were going tobuild an acknowledgement of
country in song for CMR.
That's really special to us andmeans what we think and what we
feel.
And so now that overlay ofevery episode.
(11:58):
I think it's really beautifuland people are certainly
commenting.
It's a catchy song.
Sam Miklos (12:03):
It's a beautiful song.
She did such a nice job, Ithink you know when she launched
that song.
Is that what it is?
Kate Coomber (12:12):
Yeah, and when she came in and she was playing in
the town hall when everybodyarrived at the lifts, like that
was really special, it wasbeautiful.
Sam Miklos (12:18):
And then people are getting emotional and listening
to that, Like she did.
I know you and I are a lot towork with.
I'm sure she found us veryhectic and if you're listening
Waveney, I am so sorry, but I'mso grateful.
She is an artist and she didsuch a good job and I'm really
grateful for the outcome.
Kate Coomber (12:36):
Yeah, so I think of you know the project of the
podcast.
There's been so many incrediblethings to come of that.
Even if you think about, we nowhave that which can be overlaid
to everything that we do, andthat's really special Charities.
Yeah, there's a lot, so I can'teven remember how this came
about when we first startedplanning to donate $500 with
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every episode of this firstseason to a charity of the guest
choice.
Why did you want to do that?
Sam Miklos (13:07):
I felt that if there was a hook, maybe it might you
know, because we had no productto go on.
Kate Coomber (13:15):
We didn't think anyone would say yes, I didn't
think anyone would say yes, Likecome here, what's it called?
Sam Miklos (13:20):
We don't have a name for it.
We don't have a name.
I felt like if there wassomething that people were
connected to, then they might bemore willing to come and speak
and be a part of this.
But equally, I'm really keen tohear about, I guess, the
charities that are close to ourcommunity's heart, and there's
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been some charities that youwouldn't have even known of.
And there's a lot of bigcharities out there, but there's
also a lot of little ones, andthere's equally, you know,
health services where that moneycould make such an incredible
difference.
So I just wanted to throw itout to the floor a bit just to
see who we heard about.
You know, as a business, we'realways looking to align and
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support different charities andhear about different
organisations and associations,and if we could just be
connected with one more, thatmight make a difference or, you
know, redirect the work that wedo.
I was just, I was all in for it, yeah.
Kate Coomber (14:18):
I'm really proud of that.
To even learn about some ofthese charities, you know I
spoke to the wonderful women atthe Rural Doctors Foundation
last week and I didn't evenrealise the campaigns that they
run of sending healthprofessionals out to the rural
sites, because who cares for thedoctors out?
There and the nurses out there,so I think it's been a really
wonderful learning yeah.
Sam Miklos (14:39):
What have you loved?
Kate Coomber (14:41):
What have I loved?
Looking back now and I said toyou we're doing it you know, you
kind of made it happen.
Sam Miklos (14:47):
I just went along for the ride.
I mean it's been prettystressful for you.
No group effort, I just rolledin.
Kate Coomber (14:51):
I think a huge shout out to the team who have
helped.
Yeah, we've had an incrediblegroup.
I think Our producer, sarahyeah, producer Sarah, sarah
McAuliffe has really helped us.
Sam Miklos (15:02):
She was probably the first conversation we had where
she was like we can do this andwe can do this quick.
Yes, I think we would havedilly-dallied without her just
going get in, let's do it, let'sdo it.
So thank you, thank you so much.
Kate Coomber (15:13):
Sarah, I think, working with Bright Yellow to
make sure we can pull the designtogether All the tiles changing
the order.
Sam Miklos (15:21):
all the time on there Shout out to Bright,
yellow.
Kate Coomber (15:23):
Yeah, we've been really really difficult,
difficult, um, and I guessMonique and our team off the
back of that, because shecoordinates all of that and she
has been there, um, oh gosh,bless her, that photo shoot that
we did she was there.
I think she learned a lot aboutus that day.
(15:56):
I think we learned a lot aboutus that day.
I think it's just been so goodto connect with our community on
a regular basis and give them avoice to share their story.
I think that's been my absolutefavourite thing.
I think we've upskilledincredibly this year.
I mean the tech behind runninga podcast.
(16:19):
I had no idea about and I thinkwhat it Shout out to your
husband, brad, too, for alsohelping us with this.
Sam Miklos (16:26):
Yeah dealing with my very late night, which is great
.
Kate Coomber (16:29):
Dealing with my really last night panics.
When you think you know whatyou're doing and then it just
doesn't work.
There's been a lot of that, butit's been a lot of fun.
I think everything you do youhave a lot of fun with, and this
is no we definitely laughed alot and had a lot of very
typical awkward moments, but fun.
(16:50):
If we swear, is that bad?
Yeah, okay, yeah, there you go.
Don't swear, oh my God, let'sgo.
Sam Miklos (17:00):
Sorry, I'm Sam Miklos, your host.
Who am I, your?
Kate Coomber (17:05):
host.
You're the host.
Sam Miklos (17:06):
Technology is not my thing.
There we go, that's okay.
It's not our thing either.
Kate Coomber (17:10):
Don't be fooled by all of this.
Sam Miklos (17:12):
We have other people helping.
Thank you.
Kate Coomber (17:15):
My lovely, sexy voice on for you From Geraldton
in Western Australia toCrocodile Island in the north.
Sorry, what happened?
Sam Miklos (17:24):
Did you?
Kate Coomber (17:25):
just feel it.
What happened to you then?
Sorry, I could just thinking ofthe crocodile, did you just
realize?
Sam Miklos (17:29):
What happened to you then?
Sorry, I could just feel you.
Is someone going to bulge inthat door behind you?
Are we going to have someonerunning in?
No, look, the clinic closesfrom 12 off to 1, so that's why
I had it this time.
But the clinic is closed onThursday mornings.
Anyway, okay, awesome, awesome,awesome, hang on one second.
I was like awesome, hang on onesecond.
Kate Coomber (17:52):
Co-host Kate Coomber head of talent and
employer branding at Cornerstone, I was going to say you were
about to laugh.
Sam Miklos (18:05):
Celebrate, okay, okay, sorry, should, should we
just take a stop?
Should we just like click it in?
Kate Coomber (18:11):
So do you listen to the episodes front to back?
Never you know.
Sam Miklos (18:17):
And not because I just can't listen.
I can't listen to myself.
It's hard.
I really appreciate you doingit on our behalf, but it's just
I can't.
In the conversations I'm alwaysfrantically taking notes and
thinking about what it means,but also we get really great
ideas from them.
So I do, I do a lot in themoment, but I cannot listen to
(18:39):
my own podcast.
Kate Coomber (18:42):
Norbert listens and he gives you feedback.
He does.
Sam Miklos (18:44):
And so do my parents .
Dad's like, stop saying, like,stop saying yep, yep, yep.
So thank you, dad, for thefeedback.
Kate Coomber (18:49):
Yeah, no, we definitely get a bit of family
feedback.
So there's one moment that Iremember that really made me
laugh.
Well, not in the moment, itdidn't make me laugh, it
terrified me.
I didn't know what to do.
It was the first thing we'dever recorded.
It was with Dr Dinesh Palapana.
We were.
(19:09):
He was talking to his charity,I think, which was Titans
Together, and so as soon as youstart talking, I assumed it was
football.
Sam Miklos (19:13):
I was lost.
Kate Coomber (19:13):
I was sitting there just waiting for Sam to
carry it, because I don't knowwhat anyone's talking about and
then I can't remember whathappened?
We'll have to definitely putthis in.
Sam Miklos (19:25):
He said he was giving no.
I don't want to say this,because did it make?
Kate Coomber (19:29):
it no.
Did you cut it out?
Well, because there wasn't areaction and it just didn't make
sense.
There was no context.
So, but I think now, so, inreflection, he was giving his
money to the Titans, which is anNRL team, apparently yes, yes,
but you made a joke at me at thetime when we were recording
(19:49):
that it's an AFL team and Idon't know what I'm talking
about and I was sitting there soconfused because I was pretty
sure we just talked about NRL.
You were taking a dig at me butI didn't know what was going on
.
I lent him so hard for it.
You really did.
Sam Miklos (20:02):
I genuinely felt like it was an AFL team.
I, you really did.
Kate Coomber (20:05):
I genuinely felt like it was an AFL team.
Sam Miklos (20:06):
I don't even know what I was thinking, I just was
in the moment and then he didn'tcorrect me no.
Kate Coomber (20:10):
So then I was like I'm right, because he's so kind
, he was so polite about it, andit wasn't until after that I
was like when he left oh my gosh, so then you reached out to him
, I did.
Sam Miklos (20:20):
I was so embarrassed To.
Kate Coomber (20:22):
I don't know if I can say anything.
Sam Miklos (20:23):
He was just like watching you and I and you were
like what is going on hereHaving a moment.
Kate Coomber (20:28):
Who is this?
Oh, that was funny.
Sport is really important andit's a good vehicle, especially
in Australia, where it's beenour national language for so
long to do that.
So yeah, the Gold Coast Titanswould be the one, and their
charitable arm.
Sam Miklos (20:46):
Amazing.
Kate Coomber (20:47):
Is NRL your favourite sport, that's.
Sam Miklos (20:50):
AFL or do you have a ?
You're in the tip.
Kate Coomber (20:53):
That's why you're in the bottom of the tipping.
I know Because you have no ideawhat you're tipping.
Sam Miklos (20:56):
I know what I'm tipping.
Kate Coomber (20:58):
That's hilarious.
Sam Miklos (21:01):
She goes with her colours.
When she's tipping, I do, Ilike it.
You have blue today, I like it.
When she's tipping, I do.
I'm a bit of that, yeah, bluetoday.
Kate Coomber (21:07):
And then another really funny bit there's quite a
few sort of had to be theremoments, right?
So the last one we justrecorded with Marguerite King.
So we don't have yet a clapperboard to start each episode.
We're told that you need to doa bit of a clap to sync the
audio with the video.
Sam Miklos (21:23):
Look at you.
So technical I know somethinglike that.
Kate Coomber (21:26):
Anyway, so the last one we did, we didn't
really we didn't share with anyof them really, which is
actually a big fail, and weshould do that going forward.
You just said right, we've gotto clap.
No, I think I just startedclapping, you just started
clapping.
And so again, such a kind,polite guest just started
clapping with you.
We're all just in here, justlike clapping at each other.
Sam Miklos (21:47):
Okay, we need to clap, don't we?
We need, to like a Were yougoing to clap with us?
Kate Coomber (21:54):
That was so funny.
This is actually my first time,so I'm just like, oh okay, Am I
making a big mistake?
Sam Miklos (22:00):
Oh my God, that was actually my favourite.
I do hope that's recorded,because that is my favourite
moment of all of our episodes.
I'm like are we all in sync?
Kate Coomber (22:07):
I'm assuming I'm going to be in sync with you, do
we?
Not tell you that we're dancing.
Sam Miklos (22:11):
Look, whatever it takes, really.
Oh, my God that is so funnyLiterally.
Kate Coomber (22:19):
I used to be doing what I'm told, so you know,
I'll laugh it out.
Sam Miklos (22:22):
That has literally made my day.
Oh my God.
Kate Coomber (22:24):
I'm so sorry Thinking that we all need to do
it.
Sam Miklos (22:30):
It's just so funny because it was not Anyway.
So the retakes.
We've learned a lot.
What has been good is.
I don't think we've had to editout.
We haven't edited Other thanthat, dinesh thing with the
football.
Kate Coomber (22:41):
There's been a little bit of maybe you know a
coughing fit here and there thatwe may have dropped in order
for someone to get some waterand survive.
Sam Miklos (22:50):
But the conversations have been real and
flowed, yeah.
Kate Coomber (22:52):
I think Sarah's been really wonderful to guide
us around that of people justwant to see the real
conversation and not the editedversion.
So we've really tried to dothat as best we can.
But there's definitely beensome behind the scenes that have
been really funny, and thisyear particularly, I think, at
CMR.
I think everyone will feel atCMR it's been a very, very big
(23:14):
year.
Stop it.
That's every year.
Right, it is every year, butthis year has just been a little
bit extra and I think it's beenreally nice to still have some
comedic relief.
Sam Miklos (23:24):
This has been very funny In a closed room, yes.
So what are we going to dodifferent next season?
Kate Coomber (23:31):
Next season, because we've already got a lot
of guests lined up.
We do.
We are definitely looking formore at the moment, though, and
really important to us, ifyou're listening to this and you
want to come and have a chat tous, please reach out.
Sam Miklos (23:40):
Or if you know someone who's got a really great
story, really great story, yes,we'd love to hear from them.
Kate Coomber (23:44):
Definitely, anyone working in healthcare within
Australia would be great.
I think it's really excitingWe've now got the studio set up
so that we can bring people inyeah, whenever they're available
now and spend time yeah.
So they can reach out to us,and I think it's just continuing
(24:05):
these great conversations offinding out about them and their
story.
What I love is that this isn'tabout CMR, no, or about us.
This is about the guest and whatthey bring and what they've
done and how can they helpothers.
Yeah, all the gaps, all ofthose things, which is really
exciting.
Sam Miklos (24:21):
But appreciative of being brought on the journey no
thank you.
We would not have had it if notfor you.
If, honestly, like I, mightdrop an idea but you grab it and
turn it into something like yougot all the studio.
You had all the connections Ithought I was producing the
podcast.
Kate Coomber (24:35):
I didn't know that I was on the podcast when you
asked me to do this and help you.
Sam Miklos (24:40):
Just got to be in a room of my own.
Kate Coomber (24:41):
Yes, I genuinely thought that I would be pressing
the buttons and I'd be preppingsome people and I would try and
figure out what is a podcast,and it was literally the week
before we started.
Well, I knew that you wanted meto interview you on that first
episode to get to know you.
Sam Miklos (24:56):
I did not want to be interviewed on the first
episode.
You were like you've got to doone on the first one, but I was
happy to like-.
Sarah told us we had to do that.
Kate Coomber (25:01):
So I knew I was doing that.
But then when we went tointerview Dinesh and then a
couple more that day, I didn'tknow until the week before that
I was on it with you, details,details.
I kind of just assumed you were.
Sam Miklos (25:12):
No, we couldn't.
Kate Coomber (25:13):
No, that was an internal monologue that you had
with yourself.
That was the conversation youhad at home.
I felt like we talked aboutthat.
No, we didn't.
Oh God, is that a new job?
Sam Miklos (25:19):
description.
No, I felt like Like I couldn'thave done it without you.
I think I'm not the detailsdetails planner and you know
you've done so much work before,so many of the interviews, all
the questions, and I know Ispoof in and go.
No, I think the direction'sover here Change it.
It's fun and it's happening inan hour.
I know I do that a lot, but Ithink together that's what we've
(25:40):
been able to get.
Kate Coomber (25:41):
You know, those 12 episodes were done in record
time, like oh, there was one daywe filmed like four episodes in
a day and a promo, do you?
Sam Miklos (25:52):
remember we had the oh God, we had to do that video.
We had that team come in.
We didn't know what was goingon and I fell off the chair and
I couldn't get my headset on.
Kate Coomber (25:59):
I didn't understand the purpose of what
that was for, so we didn't knowwhat.
Sam Miklos (26:02):
Maybe that was an internal monologue that.
Kate Coomber (26:04):
I had as well and I didn't tell you about I missed
that memo.
Sam Miklos (26:06):
I might have been off at that meeting that was.
That was a really big day, so,but I feel like I'm super
grateful.
Kate Coomber (26:12):
Yeah, and we learned to reign it back yeah,
we did, we did.
Actually, we were like we can'tdo too much, we don't have the
energy but three in a day, threein a day.
Sam Miklos (26:19):
I'm like next year we just do one and we do it
really well.
Yes, but no, but no, it's beenreally good.
I'm really grateful.
I think I'm really proud of theoutcome.
I have loved the conversationsthat have come from each episode
and, you know, just for ourteam here to be able to be so
proud of these great stories anduse them to do more great work,
(26:44):
I think is incredible and yeahall the charities that have come
.
It's been fun.
It's been really of all thethings this year.
It has been a very intense year.
I will give you that, but I'vereally enjoyed these moments,
like the lead up to each one isstressful, yes, and as they
finish we go, yeah.
Kate Coomber (27:04):
Yeah, it is a good feeling when you finish that
and I think that we have gotbetter.
Sam Miklos (27:09):
We have got better In Dinesh Like if you think
about Dinesh, our audience cantell us that At least we speak
now, whereas in Dinesh we werejust like, oh my gosh you just
speak to me.
Kate Coomber (27:16):
speak to me, NRL.
Sam Miklos (27:18):
I don't know what's happening here, but I'm just
like Try to be cool.
Kate Coomber (27:23):
But when we spoke to Marguerite on the last one, I
felt that we felt better.
Yes, We'd come a long way.
Sam Miklos (27:31):
Lucky Marguerite for the last one.
Kate Coomber (27:34):
Yeah, she was wonderful.
But because it's also hard,because we have so much to say
and it's been the big challengefor me is sitting quiet.
And you're writing down tellingme what to say, and I was like
I don't know what she's saying,I'm talking right now, I can't
read that at the same time.
Yeah, um, but I think that,yeah, because we do say a lot.
Just trying to not talk at thesame time is hard yeah, so maybe
(27:58):
next year we're going to talkless.
Sam Miklos (28:01):
Yes, all right, let's see how we go, and get a
new wardrobe you stop dressinglike me.
Kate Coomber (28:07):
You stop dressing like me.
Sam Miklos (28:08):
I'm literally like this is a lot.
Yeah, I think we'll need to getlike a complete.
Kate Coomber (28:11):
I think people who know you will know that you're
often like, oh, where's thatfrom?
Sam Miklos (28:15):
alright, I'm not much for the research, I just
want to know where I need to go.
Alright, we'll be differentnext year, but I think.
Alright, I think next yearwe've got some really good
stories coming.
Please, if you've got otherpeople, let us know.
Kate Coomber (28:29):
And yeah, thank you, it's been really fun.
It's been really fun, I'veenjoyed it.
Sam Miklos (28:32):
Is that a wrap?
That is a wrap, do we?
Clap Like a real wrap.
Is it a clap or a clacker?
Kate Coomber (28:37):
Wrap of the season .
Where's the confetti?
Like, this is the moment we'redone, but this is our wrap party
.
That's what it is.
It's our wrap party, is that it?
This is like the saddest partyI've ever been to, but I mean
it's been really fun.
We've got the disco lights butno disco.
Sam Miklos (28:51):
No, it's all right.
All right, that was fun.
Yeah, thanks for the year.
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