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March 18, 2022 28 mins

In this episode I speak to a long-time friend Gretel Perez-Ramirez, I have known her for over 30 years and honestly, I don't even know what she does! In this podcast, we dive into it and talk to her about what she actually does! If you are interested in following Gretel you can find all her links at - and remember if you are interested in starting your own podcast, Anchor is the easiest way to start.

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