September 20, 2023 • 18 mins
Ever wonder just how far an HR manager could go in reprimanding an employee? Buckle up as we dish out the jaw-dropping tale of a manager who took things too literally and sent an irreverent cake to an employee's home. As we pull back the layers on this wild mishap, we'll also be urging you to leave reviews on Spotify to bolster our efforts in delivering intriguing content.
Bouncing off the cake debacle, we venture into the realms of workplace communication, deciphering the labyrinth of frustrations that often seeps into our work lives. More than just HR horror stories, we're exploring the dawn of anonymous messaging websites and pondering the unusual proposition of monetizing pet messes. Strap in for a whirlwind of real-life anecdotes, "practical" advice, and a good dose of humor to help you navigate the sometimes murky waters of human resources. This is one episode you don't want to miss.
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Andrew Quilpa (00:01):
Had you actually read the email, you would know
that the podcast you are aboutto listen to could contain
explicit language and offensivecontent.
These HR experts' views are notrepresentative of their past,
present or future employers.
Warren (00:16):
I don't think I'll make that the title, though.
Feathers (00:20):
Right.
Warren (00:22):
Welcome to JadedHR, the podcast by two HR professionals
who want to help you get throughto workday by saying all the
things you're thinking, but saythem out loud.
I'm Warren and this is Feathers, alrighty.
Well, I know the last two timeswe've said this is going to be
a shorty and it wasn't a shorty.
I really, really, really dothink this one will be a shorty.
(00:44):
You know what else theSeptember 19th is?
No, it's talk like a pirate day, matey.
Feathers (00:53):
Oh, I feel like that's everyday for us.
Warren (00:55):
Yeah, everyday we're pirates, so whatever we say
we're talking like pirates, butanyways, I saw too many memes on
that today, so that's the joysof having a PTO day today.
Feathers (01:08):
I did not.
Warren (01:11):
The cell phone is such an awful tool in the fact that,
like I have a meeting at twoo'clock, I've sort of wrapped
something up at 1.45.
Now I'd grab my phone and I'dlook at the internet and I'm
like, oh gosh, yeah, I have acouple of news stories and now I
have a couple of new turns onold stories that I wanted to hit
(01:34):
up again.
Feathers (01:36):
Well, given that I try to follow up a mountain
yesterday hiking, so I mean theexpanses of Feathers, always
trying to push myself to thelimit and not realize they're
forgetting my age, yeah, yeah.
Warren (01:49):
Well, yeah, we were talking.
That's the day before my wifeand son were not doing the exact
trail you did, but we're thereand had a good time and my son
wants me to go on that trail youfell on.
Try to fall off.
Feathers (02:02):
I try to fall off of.
Warren (02:04):
Or is he going to push me?
Yeah, there you go.
Hey dad, look at the edge ofthis cliff.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, before we get started, asalways, I want to thank our
Patreon supporter, halle, ouroriginal J2HR Rockstar.
You too can support us onPatreon.
I mentioned something aboutSpotify reviews.
(02:25):
Then I go on Spotify and see wehave more reviews there than on
Apple and we've got like a 4.8rating.
But they don't allow you leavecomments.
So thank you for all theSpotify reviews.
I did look internationally.
I didn't see any newinternational reviews.
So get those out there.
We really appreciate them andremember I'll read them.
Good or bad, I'll read them.
(02:47):
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Severe or Patreon.
Check them out.
The links are in our show notes.
Before I get well, actually,I'll just dive in.
How many times have you wantedto tell an employee to just
(03:08):
basically eat a dick and kanjifor a cool?
Get the hell out.
How many times?
And if you can quantify it byas in per day, per week, per
month?
Feathers (03:19):
We're going to quantify it in that capacity.
Let's see how old am I?
How many days have I beenworking throughout my life?
I'll list for the over-endright around 12,000, probably.
Yeah, I worked in retail, justlike you, so that's on the
outside of HR.
I worked retail outside of HRand I wanted to tell people
you're a fucking dick.
(03:40):
Four or five times a day.
Warren (03:44):
Yeah, well, a Portland property maintenance management
company manager finally didexactly that.
But not only did she do that,wait till you hear this story.
This comes to us from KATU inPortland, oregon, dated 9-11.
This actually happened in 9-11,2023.
(04:05):
This happened in May of 2022.
The Portland property manager HRmanager finally did it.
She told a janitorial operationmanagers at the company, well,
she sent him a large cake.
It was shaped like a penis in ascrotum with the message eat a
(04:26):
dick on the inside cover.
And it was sent by asupervisory employee.
But she stupidly, moremistakenly or whatever you want
to say left her own name on thereturn address of the offensive
package.
And at first she was admittingor denying.
Excuse me, she was denying thatshe was the one that sent it,
(04:46):
but her name's right here on thereturn address.
So she later admitted to it,but earlier she called this
person a huge dick in front ofmanagement, just before this
incident.
But the employee it was sent tohis home, he opened it in front
of his wife and children and heis now suing his company.
(05:09):
We say all the things you wantto say, but we say them out loud
on a podcast.
You don't?
This is the safe place we talkabout in the intro.
Welcome to our little safe zone.
You can say that here, but youdon't say it in real life and
you certainly don't email them adick cake to their house with
(05:30):
your return address on it,especially right after you just
told them they were a huge dickIn a management meeting just
before the incident.
Feathers (05:39):
I just want to like think about what's going through
that person's head.
They're like little snively,like in the corner going yes,
this is the greatest comeback,this is the greatest thing ever.
And then, oh fuck, I got caught.
Warren (05:49):
Exactly, but the company upper management said they
would receive an apology and allthis other stuff he never did,
and so yeah, he is suing themand I got a feeling he's going
to make, he's going to win thisone.
I don't see.
Feathers (06:06):
I kind of want to be the attorney on that case.
I'm sorry.
What?
Warren (06:09):
Told you a dick and we got proof.
Feathers (06:11):
Yeah, I got this.
Warren (06:14):
I got the proof.
I got a return address.
Probably got a credit cardauthorization number or a
receipt on it.
Oh yeah, we're good.
Feathers (06:21):
I got this one.
I got this one.
That's like the one time I wantto be a lawyer.
Warren (06:28):
When it's easy, when everything's lined up perfectly
Right.
So well, I'm going to.
I have some things to talkabout that are updates to things
we've covered.
Even one of them was season onewe covered, but back in May of
this year that was BF beforeFeathers BF.
(06:50):
But the one that was B whatever, A, F, whatever we would say DF
during Feathers.
Df.
Yeah, I don't think that's anybetter, but anyways, what is our
favorite restaurant on Jaded HR?
Feathers (07:08):
There are so many, but I'm going to go with that
Chipotle place.
Warren (07:11):
Yes, we've never mentioned any employer, more
than we've mentioned Chipotle.
So back in May we talked aboutNew Jersey restaurants being
fined, just actually the numberwas $7.75 million.
They were fined for child laborlaw abuse.
Well, the Washington DCdistrict attorney said hey, let
(07:35):
me look and see what's going onin Washington DC.
They found all sorts of laborviolations.
I should say this comes to usfrom HR Dive, an article by
Julie Littman on September 6thof this year.
But the Attorney Generaldecided they would look into the
(07:55):
20 Washington DC Chipotlerestaurants and they found a
host of child labor violations,including children working past
10 PM, working more than eighthours in a day, working over 48
hours a week and working morethan six days straight.
So Chipotle decided that theylike doing this.
(08:19):
Actually they wrote the quoteis Chipotle believes that hiring
employees as young as 16provides young workers with a
good career experience, anopportunity to grow within the
workplace, as Laurie Shullow,chipotle's Chief Corporate
Affairs Officer, wrote.
Here's my thing they just gotfined by New Jersey.
(08:40):
They just got fined in DC orthey settled in DC, and I didn't
write down the amount of whatthey settled for, but I didn't
know this until reading thearticle that Chipotle is not a
franchise operation, where youhave one whacked out franchise
owner who's doing stupid shit,that and bringing down the
(09:01):
company names.
No, all the restaurants arecorporate owned.
So this is like.
You can't have that plausibledeniability.
Oh, we train our managers thatour franchise is.
No, these are corporate.
All Chipotle stores arecorporately owned.
So if it's happening in thesetwo districts, I can only
imagine that there's going to bea just a full buttload of
(09:25):
attorney generals now lookinginto this and they're going to
be settling or being find outthe yin-yang as they continue to
look at it.
Feathers (09:35):
But wow, Laurie, you're less than the first time.
It's hard for me to fathom thatlarge of an operation,
especially in a restaurant, isactually all corporate owned.
Warren (09:47):
Right, other similar restaurants, like Applebee's and
things like that.
They're franchises, but they'reall corporately owned stores,
according to the article on HRdrive.
So, anyway, that wasinteresting, but that was an
(10:08):
article, a callback to anarticle we talked about in May.
Well, john Hyman wrote onLinkedIn on September 13th, just
last week, about episode or Idon't know the episode number,
but season one.
Patrick and I talked about theTyson's managers who were
placing bets on who was going toget COVID and things like that.
(10:31):
Well, and all those managersrightfully got fired.
Well, I'll read some of whatJohn wrote.
If you fire a group of managerscaught On caught betting on
which of their employees wouldget six with COVID, you probably
don't want to pay them ayear-end bonus, but that doesn't
mean that they won't try vialawsuit and that's what a price.
(10:52):
Precisely what happened atTyson's foods.
In late 2020, tyson's foodsfired seven managers caught
running such a betting pool.
At the time, more than athousand Tyson employees had
fallen ill and six had died.
Not content with leaving wellenough alone, five of the seven
sued Tyson's foods, claiming thecompany owed them a bonus
payment pursuant to thecompany's annual incentive plan,
(11:16):
and that lawsuit wentabsolutely nowhere.
So on in.
John mentioned this.
I didn't write it in thearticle, but judges and Juries
are humans too.
If you're just being a completedouchebag, they're not gonna
have any sympathy, even ifyou're in a gray area of the law
(11:38):
.
They're like you're betting onpeople potentially dying.
What's what's the under overBorn?
Dying this week?
I don't know, that's just, it'sjust crazy.
So yeah, but a Side topic noton my list that John Hyman did
put out today, september 19th istoday the a new new entry into
(11:59):
his worst employer list, whichI'll probably talk about, but
anyways.
So this article comes to usfrom life hacker calm and I like
this article and it's writtenby Elizabeth Yuko on 9, 15th and
life hacker calm.
She talks about the survey bypreply survey company suggesting
(12:24):
that people hate receivingunnecessarily Necessary
reminders more than any kind ofmessage.
So they listed 10 of the mostpassive aggressive Phrases
someone can use in a work email.
So here's the 10 number 10,please advise.
I don't.
(12:45):
I don't see a problem with that.
I don't even consider thatpassive aggressive.
I mean, you asked me to dosomething.
I've replied hey, please advise.
How do you want me to proceedon this?
I need more information.
So I don't, I don't considerthat passive aggressive, so
that's pretty lame.
Good thing it's number 10.
Going to number nine, just toclarify it now, that one I can
(13:08):
see being passive aggressive.
But just to clarify, do yourfucking job If that can be
passive aggressive.
Number eight thanks in advance.
I Don't know, I don't, I don'tsee that one as passive
aggressive.
You're asking someone to dosomething?
Oh, I appreciate.
Thanks in advance.
(13:28):
I don't see that as a as aproblem, really, but according
to this Preply survey, that isone of them.
This one is passive aggressive.
I might be mistaken, but thatone came in at number seven.
Might be mistaken, but didn'tlast week you tell me to do the
exact opposite of what you'retelling me to do right now?
Yeah, number six I thought I'dbring this to your attention.
(13:53):
It's like here Hold on, I wantto tabletail real quick Thought.
I'd bring this to yourattention.
Anyways, number five goingforward, like, okay, you f'd it
up, but going forward, you'regonna do it right.
Feathers (14:11):
Yeah, that one's, that one's pretty passive,
aggressive.
Warren (14:14):
Yeah, here's another one , number four.
Just a gentle reminder.
Feathers (14:21):
There's nothing gentle about that one.
Warren (14:24):
Just a gentle reminder Turn your time sheets in on time
if you expect to get paid Ontime.
Number three as previouslymentioned, that's a response to
a stupid question that's beenanswered three or four or five
times already.
As previously mentioned, payattention.
(14:47):
Number two correct me if I'mwrong.
Feathers (14:53):
So that's almost the exact same thing as I might be
mistaken, but correct me if I'mwrong.
Warren (14:58):
It's like I'm not wrong, so I'm just gonna put this out
there.
I know I'm right.
So, and the number one is oneof my favorites and I have used
that.
I do use it and, yes, when I douse it, it's intended to be
passed.
It's not just when it's comingfor me, it's just aggressive.
There's no passivity in thisNumber one.
Per my last email, or the emailyou didn't read, you dumb fuck.
(15:23):
It blows my mind.
We launched our reviews andpeople are already asking dumb
questions.
Before I launched the reviews,I sent out an email with an
attachment at FAQ and I did allthis other great stuff.
I'm like I want to make thisfoolproof.
Actually, I use a particularperson's name.
(15:45):
I'm going to make this John Doeproof, because if there's
something that they can't bemessed up, they will mess it up.
And yeah, I'm already gettingstupid questions.
Yeah, that's FAQ number five onmy list, but per my last email.
So, as I said, this was goingto be a shorty and we're holding
to that this week.
Anything that you want to throwin there before we kill this
(16:11):
episode.
Feathers (16:15):
If you're going to send somebody like an eat a dick
type of thing, cover your basesbetter.
Warren (16:21):
Yeah, gosh, I absolutely do Use a prepaid credit card or
a gift card, and not your ownname.
Feathers (16:30):
I thought this out people.
Yeah, I mean, if burner phoneswere things you can't have like
a burner account?
Warren (16:37):
But that's your best practice.
Think a little harder beforeyou send an eat a dick cake to
one of your employees.
Think harder, but dammit, if weall haven't wanted to do that
at some point.
So halfway.
I want to applaud them, givethem the little golf clap Right.
Good job, but failed inexecution.
(16:57):
Great idea, failed in execution.
Feathers (17:00):
Sounds like a story of my life.
Warren (17:02):
In the 90s there used to be a website called Just a Hint
.
Well, there are two such sites,I don't remember.
I remember Just a Hintspecifically and like if you
someone had body odor, you couldput their name and their email
address into this and it wouldsend them an anonymous email
saying Just a Hint, you havevery bad body odor.
Or Just a Hint, nobody cares toforward all your people are
(17:25):
getting really sick of your.
Please forward this to 10people emails Back in the 90s I
remember that, and they actuallywent out of business because
they were seen as a threat.
Then there was another place andI think they might still be in
business like they wouldhermetically seal dog shit and
you could buy between Chihuahuasize dog shit and like great
(17:46):
Dane size dog shit and theywould hermetically seal so and
send it to the person of yourchoice.
So, yeah, I would love topackage my dog's mess and make
some money off of that.
Anyways, anyhow, that's allI've got for today.
The intro is Andrew Culpa.
Excuse me, the voice artistdoing the intro is Andrew Culpa,
(18:09):
and the intro and outro musicis double the double by the
underscore orchestra.
As always, I'm Warren and thisis Feathers and we're helping
you survive HR one.
What the fuck moment.
Had you actually read the email, you would know
that the podcast you are aboutto listen to could contain
explicit language and offensivecontent.
These HR experts' views are notrepresentative of their past,
present or future employers.
Warren (00:16):
I don't think I'll make that the title, though.
Feathers (00:20):
Right.
Warren (00:22):
Welcome to JadedHR, the podcast by two HR professionals
who want to help you get throughto workday by saying all the
things you're thinking, but saythem out loud.
I'm Warren and this is Feathers, alrighty.
Well, I know the last two timeswe've said this is going to be
a shorty and it wasn't a shorty.
I really, really, really dothink this one will be a shorty.
(00:44):
You know what else theSeptember 19th is?
No, it's talk like a pirate day, matey.
Feathers (00:53):
Oh, I feel like that's everyday for us.
Warren (00:55):
Yeah, everyday we're pirates, so whatever we say
we're talking like pirates, butanyways, I saw too many memes on
that today, so that's the joysof having a PTO day today.
Feathers (01:08):
I did not.
Warren (01:11):
The cell phone is such an awful tool in the fact that,
like I have a meeting at twoo'clock, I've sort of wrapped
something up at 1.45.
Now I'd grab my phone and I'dlook at the internet and I'm
like, oh gosh, yeah, I have acouple of news stories and now I
have a couple of new turns onold stories that I wanted to hit
(01:34):
up again.
Feathers (01:36):
Well, given that I try to follow up a mountain
yesterday hiking, so I mean theexpanses of Feathers, always
trying to push myself to thelimit and not realize they're
forgetting my age, yeah, yeah.
Warren (01:49):
Well, yeah, we were talking.
That's the day before my wifeand son were not doing the exact
trail you did, but we're thereand had a good time and my son
wants me to go on that trail youfell on.
Try to fall off.
Feathers (02:02):
I try to fall off of.
Warren (02:04):
Or is he going to push me?
Yeah, there you go.
Hey dad, look at the edge ofthis cliff.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, before we get started, asalways, I want to thank our
Patreon supporter, halle, ouroriginal J2HR Rockstar.
You too can support us onPatreon.
I mentioned something aboutSpotify reviews.
(02:25):
Then I go on Spotify and see wehave more reviews there than on
Apple and we've got like a 4.8rating.
But they don't allow you leavecomments.
So thank you for all theSpotify reviews.
I did look internationally.
I didn't see any newinternational reviews.
So get those out there.
We really appreciate them andremember I'll read them.
Good or bad, I'll read them.
(02:47):
So just let us know.
Thank you for the reviews Cansupport us online through Buy A
Severe or Patreon.
Check them out.
The links are in our show notes.
Before I get well, actually,I'll just dive in.
How many times have you wantedto tell an employee to just
(03:08):
basically eat a dick and kanjifor a cool?
Get the hell out.
How many times?
And if you can quantify it byas in per day, per week, per
month?
Feathers (03:19):
We're going to quantify it in that capacity.
Let's see how old am I?
How many days have I beenworking throughout my life?
I'll list for the over-endright around 12,000, probably.
Yeah, I worked in retail, justlike you, so that's on the
outside of HR.
I worked retail outside of HRand I wanted to tell people
you're a fucking dick.
(03:40):
Four or five times a day.
Warren (03:44):
Yeah, well, a Portland property maintenance management
company manager finally didexactly that.
But not only did she do that,wait till you hear this story.
This comes to us from KATU inPortland, oregon, dated 9-11.
This actually happened in 9-11,2023.
(04:05):
This happened in May of 2022.
The Portland property manager HRmanager finally did it.
She told a janitorial operationmanagers at the company, well,
she sent him a large cake.
It was shaped like a penis in ascrotum with the message eat a
(04:26):
dick on the inside cover.
And it was sent by asupervisory employee.
But she stupidly, moremistakenly or whatever you want
to say left her own name on thereturn address of the offensive
package.
And at first she was admittingor denying.
Excuse me, she was denying thatshe was the one that sent it,
(04:46):
but her name's right here on thereturn address.
So she later admitted to it,but earlier she called this
person a huge dick in front ofmanagement, just before this
incident.
But the employee it was sent tohis home, he opened it in front
of his wife and children and heis now suing his company.
(05:09):
We say all the things you wantto say, but we say them out loud
on a podcast.
You don't?
This is the safe place we talkabout in the intro.
Welcome to our little safe zone.
You can say that here, but youdon't say it in real life and
you certainly don't email them adick cake to their house with
(05:30):
your return address on it,especially right after you just
told them they were a huge dickIn a management meeting just
before the incident.
Feathers (05:39):
I just want to like think about what's going through
that person's head.
They're like little snively,like in the corner going yes,
this is the greatest comeback,this is the greatest thing ever.
And then, oh fuck, I got caught.
Warren (05:49):
Exactly, but the company upper management said they
would receive an apology and allthis other stuff he never did,
and so yeah, he is suing themand I got a feeling he's going
to make, he's going to win thisone.
I don't see.
Feathers (06:06):
I kind of want to be the attorney on that case.
I'm sorry.
What?
Warren (06:09):
Told you a dick and we got proof.
Feathers (06:11):
Yeah, I got this.
Warren (06:14):
I got the proof.
I got a return address.
Probably got a credit cardauthorization number or a
receipt on it.
Oh yeah, we're good.
Feathers (06:21):
I got this one.
I got this one.
That's like the one time I wantto be a lawyer.
Warren (06:28):
When it's easy, when everything's lined up perfectly
Right.
So well, I'm going to.
I have some things to talkabout that are updates to things
we've covered.
Even one of them was season onewe covered, but back in May of
this year that was BF beforeFeathers BF.
(06:50):
But the one that was B whatever, A, F, whatever we would say DF
during Feathers.
Df.
Yeah, I don't think that's anybetter, but anyways, what is our
favorite restaurant on Jaded HR?
Feathers (07:08):
There are so many, but I'm going to go with that
Chipotle place.
Warren (07:11):
Yes, we've never mentioned any employer, more
than we've mentioned Chipotle.
So back in May we talked aboutNew Jersey restaurants being
fined, just actually the numberwas $7.75 million.
They were fined for child laborlaw abuse.
Well, the Washington DCdistrict attorney said hey, let
(07:35):
me look and see what's going onin Washington DC.
They found all sorts of laborviolations.
I should say this comes to usfrom HR Dive, an article by
Julie Littman on September 6thof this year.
But the Attorney Generaldecided they would look into the
(07:55):
20 Washington DC Chipotlerestaurants and they found a
host of child labor violations,including children working past
10 PM, working more than eighthours in a day, working over 48
hours a week and working morethan six days straight.
So Chipotle decided that theylike doing this.
(08:19):
Actually they wrote the quoteis Chipotle believes that hiring
employees as young as 16provides young workers with a
good career experience, anopportunity to grow within the
workplace, as Laurie Shullow,chipotle's Chief Corporate
Affairs Officer, wrote.
Here's my thing they just gotfined by New Jersey.
(08:40):
They just got fined in DC orthey settled in DC, and I didn't
write down the amount of whatthey settled for, but I didn't
know this until reading thearticle that Chipotle is not a
franchise operation, where youhave one whacked out franchise
owner who's doing stupid shit,that and bringing down the
(09:01):
company names.
No, all the restaurants arecorporate owned.
So this is like.
You can't have that plausibledeniability.
Oh, we train our managers thatour franchise is.
No, these are corporate.
All Chipotle stores arecorporately owned.
So if it's happening in thesetwo districts, I can only
imagine that there's going to bea just a full buttload of
(09:25):
attorney generals now lookinginto this and they're going to
be settling or being find outthe yin-yang as they continue to
look at it.
Feathers (09:35):
But wow, Laurie, you're less than the first time.
It's hard for me to fathom thatlarge of an operation,
especially in a restaurant, isactually all corporate owned.
Warren (09:47):
Right, other similar restaurants, like Applebee's and
things like that.
They're franchises, but they'reall corporately owned stores,
according to the article on HRdrive.
So, anyway, that wasinteresting, but that was an
(10:08):
article, a callback to anarticle we talked about in May.
Well, john Hyman wrote onLinkedIn on September 13th, just
last week, about episode or Idon't know the episode number,
but season one.
Patrick and I talked about theTyson's managers who were
placing bets on who was going toget COVID and things like that.
(10:31):
Well, and all those managersrightfully got fired.
Well, I'll read some of whatJohn wrote.
If you fire a group of managerscaught On caught betting on
which of their employees wouldget six with COVID, you probably
don't want to pay them ayear-end bonus, but that doesn't
mean that they won't try vialawsuit and that's what a price.
(10:52):
Precisely what happened atTyson's foods.
In late 2020, tyson's foodsfired seven managers caught
running such a betting pool.
At the time, more than athousand Tyson employees had
fallen ill and six had died.
Not content with leaving wellenough alone, five of the seven
sued Tyson's foods, claiming thecompany owed them a bonus
payment pursuant to thecompany's annual incentive plan,
(11:16):
and that lawsuit wentabsolutely nowhere.
So on in.
John mentioned this.
I didn't write it in thearticle, but judges and Juries
are humans too.
If you're just being a completedouchebag, they're not gonna
have any sympathy, even ifyou're in a gray area of the law
(11:38):
.
They're like you're betting onpeople potentially dying.
What's what's the under overBorn?
Dying this week?
I don't know, that's just, it'sjust crazy.
So yeah, but a Side topic noton my list that John Hyman did
put out today, september 19th istoday the a new new entry into
(11:59):
his worst employer list, whichI'll probably talk about, but
anyways.
So this article comes to usfrom life hacker calm and I like
this article and it's writtenby Elizabeth Yuko on 9, 15th and
life hacker calm.
She talks about the survey bypreply survey company suggesting
(12:24):
that people hate receivingunnecessarily Necessary
reminders more than any kind ofmessage.
So they listed 10 of the mostpassive aggressive Phrases
someone can use in a work email.
So here's the 10 number 10,please advise.
I don't.
(12:45):
I don't see a problem with that.
I don't even consider thatpassive aggressive.
I mean, you asked me to dosomething.
I've replied hey, please advise.
How do you want me to proceedon this?
I need more information.
So I don't, I don't considerthat passive aggressive, so
that's pretty lame.
Good thing it's number 10.
Going to number nine, just toclarify it now, that one I can
(13:08):
see being passive aggressive.
But just to clarify, do yourfucking job If that can be
passive aggressive.
Number eight thanks in advance.
I Don't know, I don't, I don'tsee that one as passive
aggressive.
You're asking someone to dosomething?
Oh, I appreciate.
Thanks in advance.
(13:28):
I don't see that as a as aproblem, really, but according
to this Preply survey, that isone of them.
This one is passive aggressive.
I might be mistaken, but thatone came in at number seven.
Might be mistaken, but didn'tlast week you tell me to do the
exact opposite of what you'retelling me to do right now?
Yeah, number six I thought I'dbring this to your attention.
(13:53):
It's like here Hold on, I wantto tabletail real quick Thought.
I'd bring this to yourattention.
Anyways, number five goingforward, like, okay, you f'd it
up, but going forward, you'regonna do it right.
Feathers (14:11):
Yeah, that one's, that one's pretty passive,
aggressive.
Warren (14:14):
Yeah, here's another one , number four.
Just a gentle reminder.
Feathers (14:21):
There's nothing gentle about that one.
Warren (14:24):
Just a gentle reminder Turn your time sheets in on time
if you expect to get paid Ontime.
Number three as previouslymentioned, that's a response to
a stupid question that's beenanswered three or four or five
times already.
As previously mentioned, payattention.
(14:47):
Number two correct me if I'mwrong.
Feathers (14:53):
So that's almost the exact same thing as I might be
mistaken, but correct me if I'mwrong.
Warren (14:58):
It's like I'm not wrong, so I'm just gonna put this out
there.
I know I'm right.
So, and the number one is oneof my favorites and I have used
that.
I do use it and, yes, when I douse it, it's intended to be
passed.
It's not just when it's comingfor me, it's just aggressive.
There's no passivity in thisNumber one.
Per my last email, or the emailyou didn't read, you dumb fuck.
(15:23):
It blows my mind.
We launched our reviews andpeople are already asking dumb
questions.
Before I launched the reviews,I sent out an email with an
attachment at FAQ and I did allthis other great stuff.
I'm like I want to make thisfoolproof.
Actually, I use a particularperson's name.
(15:45):
I'm going to make this John Doeproof, because if there's
something that they can't bemessed up, they will mess it up.
And yeah, I'm already gettingstupid questions.
Yeah, that's FAQ number five onmy list, but per my last email.
So, as I said, this was goingto be a shorty and we're holding
to that this week.
Anything that you want to throwin there before we kill this
(16:11):
episode.
Feathers (16:15):
If you're going to send somebody like an eat a dick
type of thing, cover your basesbetter.
Warren (16:21):
Yeah, gosh, I absolutely do Use a prepaid credit card or
a gift card, and not your ownname.
Feathers (16:30):
I thought this out people.
Yeah, I mean, if burner phoneswere things you can't have like
a burner account?
Warren (16:37):
But that's your best practice.
Think a little harder beforeyou send an eat a dick cake to
one of your employees.
Think harder, but dammit, if weall haven't wanted to do that
at some point.
So halfway.
I want to applaud them, givethem the little golf clap Right.
Good job, but failed inexecution.
(16:57):
Great idea, failed in execution.
Feathers (17:00):
Sounds like a story of my life.
Warren (17:02):
In the 90s there used to be a website called Just a Hint
.
Well, there are two such sites,I don't remember.
I remember Just a Hintspecifically and like if you
someone had body odor, you couldput their name and their email
address into this and it wouldsend them an anonymous email
saying Just a Hint, you havevery bad body odor.
Or Just a Hint, nobody cares toforward all your people are
(17:25):
getting really sick of your.
Please forward this to 10people emails Back in the 90s I
remember that, and they actuallywent out of business because
they were seen as a threat.
Then there was another place andI think they might still be in
business like they wouldhermetically seal dog shit and
you could buy between Chihuahuasize dog shit and like great
(17:46):
Dane size dog shit and theywould hermetically seal so and
send it to the person of yourchoice.
So, yeah, I would love topackage my dog's mess and make
some money off of that.
Anyways, anyhow, that's allI've got for today.
The intro is Andrew Culpa.
Excuse me, the voice artistdoing the intro is Andrew Culpa,
(18:09):
and the intro and outro musicis double the double by the
underscore orchestra.
As always, I'm Warren and thisis Feathers and we're helping
you survive HR one.
What the fuck moment.
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