Ever feel like you're the only sane person in an office full of quirky characters? Strap in and join us, Warren and Patrick, for a wild ride through the jungle of HR headaches and hilarity. We kick off with a hearty congratulations to our very own CeCe for adding a new member to the family tree and move swiftly into the nitty-gritty of productivity peaks and valleys, navigating eccentric colleagues, and the ever-present office salad bar station.
Now, let's talk about those workplace 'frenemies' and grammar gaffes that can drive you up the wall. It's a balancing act of camaraderie and caution, and we've got the tales to prove it. From the symphony of desk salad chopping to the cringe-worthy email faux pas, we share our personal stories and the lessons learned on maintaining professionalism amidst the chaos. Plus, we dive into the generational mash-up that is today's workplace, with a nod to our own Gen X status and a playful jab at the upcoming Gen Alpha.
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Patrick'm Warren, I'm Patrick.
All righty Patrick's back.
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I would get a notification ifsomeone dm'd me or something
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I'm going to try and get on tothe socials a little bit more.
Patrick (03:14):
But yeah, I haven't checked your apple podcast
reviews in a while.
I imagine you keep up with thatpretty regularly.
Warren (03:19):
But I do.
I looked at it actually earlierthis morning.
Okay, we we have all except forone are five-star reviews and
the one one-star review.
I think it's out of 23, 24reviews, so those numbers of
people are five stars, that wehave one one-star review and the
person didn't leave anycomments.
So leave a review.
(03:39):
Hopefully it's five stars, butregardless, I'll read it on the
air.
If you give us one star and say, warren, you're full of shit
and you deserve to die ahorrible death or something like
that, then I'll read it.
But five star works a lotbetter for us.
Anyhow, anything before we diveinto our fun topic of the day,
fun thing, fun going on in yourworld, living the dream.
Patrick (04:01):
Slowly marching away from HR as fast as I can, but
yeah.
Slowly marching fast the HRSlife.
It's one of those things whereyou're slowly improving HR work
and trying to make the team moreefficient and automated.
Then you're like, hmm, I needto start a fire, so they keep me
(04:22):
.
Warren (04:24):
Create a problem that only you can solve Exactly.
So that's what I try to focuson every now and then Just you
know arson in there.
Patrick (04:31):
A little bit of that technology arson to keep job
security alive.
Warren (04:38):
Burned a place down.
Take my stapler.
Patrick (04:44):
Does anyone know?
The original was Office Space.
Yeah, Office Space.
I would hope so I think thatmovie holds up.
Warren (04:52):
It holds up.
Patrick (04:53):
Yeah, it should never die, especially if you don't
have enough flair on it and, tobe fair, I feel that it still
rings true today Everything theysay about it.
In any given day, sometimes Ionly do 15 minutes of real work.
I haven't really felt thatlately, but there are times when
you're like you know what.
I answered three emails today.
Warren (05:17):
See, for me it goes in splashes.
I'll go through days where it'sjust I don't have a lot on my
plate.
I'm one of those people whooperate better when there's more
on my plate.
Now I don't operate well at anoverload pace, but when there's
a lot on my plate I'm focused aswell as I can be, at least, and
I get things done.
When there's not a lot on myplate, then it's like okay.
Patrick (05:42):
It's the time you probably could.
You always have these.
I can organize all thesereports in this folder that I've
always needed to get to, butyou never do that when you
actually have the time to do it.
Warren (05:52):
Yeah, you do it.
When something goes foobar andyou have to do it, that's when
you do it.
You just light them on fire.
The last two Do I sense somepyromania going on?
There's something, yeah.
Patrick (06:06):
Something deep down the sides, rising up like the Great
Phoenix.
Warren (06:11):
Well, keep a fire extinguisher hinge, anyway, but
yeah, for the past two yearsI've had interns who will be
joining me full time this year,so I'm excited about that.
But she's gotten all the Idon't want to say the shit jobs.
But I would come up with thoseideas.
Oh, organize this file Like youwere talking about this file
structure.
Rewrite our SOPs, and this timeI want screenshots and I want
(06:35):
the little graphics to go along.
Make it even easier tounderstand.
Patrick (06:39):
She did all those things and yeah, yeah, I don't
know what it is about and I'msure every department is like
that, but anytime in HR we getsomeone new, it's like, oh, what
are we going to put them on?
Oh, I know, the first weeklet's have them go into like
every job description and cleanthose up.
You know just some random thingthat you've never done, but
like that's so wrong, becausethen you're just immediately
giving these new people justthese shit jobs.
Warren (07:01):
But yeah, that does happen all the time jobs.
But man, yeah, that does happenall the time.
I think it serves some value.
Well, especially like rewritingsops, they can get to see what
the sop is, the job descriptionsyou know.
Speaking of that, we like if wepost, I don't know, an
electrical engineer positiontoday, tomorrow's electrical
(07:23):
engineer position is going to becompletely different than what
they do.
I don't worry too much aboutkeeping the job descriptions up
to date because we sit down withthe hiring manager.
Okay, what are you looking fortoday?
And do they need whateverspecial skill set today that we
didn't need in the last one wehired and things like that.
So I like doing that as as thatsort of fun and interesting.
(07:45):
And it actually oh, I'm notbeing too jaded right now, but
it you learn about the companythrough talking about the these
job description and what theperson's going to be doing and
why this is different.
Hey, last week we hired someonesame title.
Why is this different?
You, you learn.
And oh, I want to talk aboutannoying employees today or
(08:12):
coworkers.
It doesn't have to benecessarily a employee, it can
be a coworker.
But I want to draw the link.
It's not somebody who's doingsomething overtly wrong that
they can be disciplined for Justweird people.
People are quirky, weird,eccentric, strange whatever the
(08:34):
adjective is for them.
Those weird people I know overmy career I've fielded more than
a few employee relations thingsand it just comes down to they
don't like this person, they'restrange, they're different,
they're weird, weird, they'recreepy, they're whatever it is,
(08:56):
but they haven't done.
And all those have been aboutme, people complaining about me,
but until they do somethingmore than that, you don't really
have your, but you know they'reI don't know.
You're sort of wait, you'rewaiting for something to happen
with some of these people thatare just Well, that's what I was
going to say.
Patrick (09:15):
Those are the ones that you become best friends with.
Is it Billy Madison?
Where the guy has the list?
He's like people to kill andhe's like Billy Madison is
really nice to him.
So he crashes him off his listand you see him there like
putting the lipstick on, likehe's a super creepy, weird guy.
Andrew Quilpa (09:33):
But he goes out of the way to apologize.
Patrick (09:37):
He goes out of the way to apologize for he calls him
and he's like I'm sorry forbeing mean to you in high school
or whatever you gotta befriends with those people,
because that's the ones youbreak into your HR office with
Burn the goddamn place down.
You're cool, get down.
Warren (09:54):
Well, some of the complaints I've had about weird
people or annoying people youknow I was telling the all-fair.
Someone complained this guy'sjust so weird.
He only has like three shirtsthat he wears.
I'm like we don't A lot ofpeople wear uniforms, only have
one shirt that they wear eachand every day and things like
(10:15):
that.
And you know this person Idon't know, just these weird
things that are not.
All this person does is talkabout.
I don't know legos, like Ithink legos are cool.
I don't have a collection.
I I have a very good friend whois ridiculously into Legos, but
you know that's their thing.
Podcasting is my thing, I guess, and I can talk your ears off
(10:39):
about podcasting, but it's goingto put everybody else in the
world to sleep.
But I'm trying to think ofother complaints I've had.
Patrick (10:48):
Yeah, I'm.
You know.
You always have like just thequiet people which I don't know.
I've been at my company foralmost 10 years and I still feel
like the rogue walking throughthe hallways.
Everyone's like does anyoneknow who that is or what he does
here?
I see him here every now andthen I feel like I could be that
(11:10):
person that just kind of sneaksthrough.
But you always have just thequiet guy that wears the trench
coat and's just comes in, doeshis job, doesn't talk to anybody
, then leaves and you knownothing wrong with that.
Warren (11:20):
Some people aren't but it does weird socialize, but it
does weird people out.
Patrick (11:24):
Yeah, but that's just because you know, if you're a
social butterfly in the office,then it's like, well, why isn't
this person talking?
It's like, well, well, maybe,sheila, he doesn't want to talk
to you, he just wants to get hisgoddamn job done and go home
when the clock is right.
Warren (11:39):
Yeah, so and I wish it weren't that way.
And once again, now I'm takingit an unjaded way and I don't
want to get into topics ofneurodiversity and all that
other stuff.
Let's just leave that off thetable.
It's just some people that arejust weird fucks.
Hell yeah, overall, and withoutwithout getting into health
(12:00):
issues, mental health issues oranything like that, but my thing
as a hr person why are wegetting a complaint about this
person who only wears threedifferent shirts, or you know
I'm not gonna get into, you knowI'm not going to get into you
know the hygiene issues.
That can be a legitimatecomplaint.
Is there creepy?
Here's another thing I've got.
Oh well, you know I want tocomplain.
(12:24):
This John Doe is he's justcreepy, he's weird.
I'm like, well, what has hedone?
He just sits there and he justdoes his job.
What is wrong with him?
Yeah, and sometimes he staresblankly at you and I'm like is
it in a he's blind, barbara.
Patrick (12:41):
Okay, god damn, we have his documentation.
He's not staring at you for thethousandth time.
Warren (12:50):
When I get employee relations complaint, one of the
questions I always ask towardsthe end is in an ideal world,
what would you like to see doneto fix this problem?
And a lot of times, hey, I justwant to let someone know or I
just want to vent, but when theycome to you with you know this
guy's creepy like, is hestanding outside the ladies room
(13:12):
with a camera or something likethat?
I I don't know.
But when they don't have anyammo there, there's no there
there like, well, you know, andI I won't ask that question.
Look, based on what you've toldme, there's really nothing I
can say or do.
He hasn't done anything wrongand and things like that.
And unfortunately, I don'tthink I've ever had a complaint
(13:34):
think about it, employeerelations complaint about a
creepy, a weird woman.
It's always dudes, uh, that uhare, are strange and weird and
do what people considerdisturbing things or things.
Oh, people who eat loudly.
Oh I, I heard this one once.
I want to say it's where weworked together once Another
(13:54):
employee.
Patrick (13:55):
Is it an employee that just kept he kept cutting his
salad at his desk all the time?
Was that I think about that?
I that's my go-to.
I go to Kroger get a salad andthen I cut it at my desk and I'm
like you know what, I amprobably that employee that
someone's like God damn it, hecuts his fucking salad at his
desk every day.
It drives me crazy.
Warren (14:17):
Or you want to know something that drives me crazy
Grammar, grammar drives me crazy.
I know I don't have the best,but there's a particular person
I know that misconjugatesvirtually every verb in the
English language Native-bornEnglish-American speaker, double
(14:39):
negatives out the yin-yang,uses words they don't know what
the meanings are, are, andsometimes when I just hear this
person start to speak, they haveonly said like two words.
I'm like tensing up because I'mabout to have a little
conniption, because what'scoming?
I just grammar is and I'm nottalking about colloquialisms If
(14:59):
you want to say yuns and y'alland things like that.
Patrick (15:19):
So I don't care about that.
I'm talking about, like I said,I don't care about that.
I'm talking about, like I said,misconjugating verbs.
It bothers me.
Their grammar was so bad thatthey were almost nothing was
legible when they were typingemails.
They couldn't understand whatthey were saying, but this
person was like they shrugged itoff and they were like yeah,
basically made jokes about howeveryone thinks my grammar is
(15:39):
bad, but they just didn't careand didn't correct it.
Can you imagine your vendorfacing contact is getting
complaints about that?
Warren (15:49):
Yeah, I think in a forward facing position like a
recruiter, that's something thathas to be there because you're
representing the company, You'rethat person's first contact
with the company and if you arenot able to communicate well,
then you're representing thecompany badly and I would have
(16:14):
to say something about that asan HR person.
But it's just really, reallybad, yeah.
So before the show today, we'retalking about frenemies
Frenemies at work.
Before the show today, we'retalking about frenemies
frenemies at work.
Now, that's another interestingarea that you know, because
(16:35):
workplace can be just like ajunior high school with some of
these people's relationships.
Patrick (16:51):
And I've only had one instance of interacting with a
frenemy I learned my lesson.
Warren (16:54):
Uh, can you define that like?
How are you meaning so?
Someone who, well, I'll justtell my story.
This person was as sweet as shecould be, to your face and
always saying, oh, how wonderfuleverything is and how happy and
how you know they work with you, but they will be the the first
to draw the knife and stab youin the back If given the
opportunity they work in payroll.
They work, payroll, oh man.
(17:18):
Are you speaking to someone?
We know?
Patrick (17:20):
No, definitely not.
Warren (17:21):
No, okay, but this person is we did not work
together this but I thought, oh,this person's really cool, they
can help me.
When I started, they can helpme and they can help me grow and
learn the company a little bit.
And I quickly learned that Ifound a toxic person and she'd
been there before me and she wasthere after me and I think I've
(17:44):
mentioned at this particularcompany.
I was there six years and Ithink I've mentioned at this
particular company.
I was there six years and Ithink we had 12 HR head of HRs
you can pick the title of theday because everyone seemed to
have a different one but one ofthem, the last one while I was
there came in and he asked me tofirst.
I've also told this story.
I did not like our HR department.
I was a recruiter there and wewe moved office spaces and there
(18:08):
was not enough desk in the hallthat was going to have HR and
finance on it.
So somebody not enough officeshad to go to the IT hall and
they're like you know, there'sjust not all off offices.
Is anybody willing to go workon the IT hall?
My hand went up so quickly.
I was like you know, I workedbeside them for the next three
(18:29):
years or so and it actuallyhelped keep me there longer, as
I think I'd been sort ofsurrounded by the rest of the HR
team, because as a recruiteryou're not you know directly HR,
you're sort of HR adjacent.
Patrick (18:45):
HR stepchild.
Warren (18:47):
Yeah, exactly.
But anyways, the final HRdirector, manager, whatever the
title was going to be that timecame in and he's asked me to lay
the land.
He's asked me about the people,the staff and what I thought
about each of them.
And I actually said I'll letyou form your own opinion, but I
would be very cautious what Isay around this person.
(19:09):
And a few days later I go tothe mail room, which was on the
HR and finance hall, becauseback then I actually had to mail
letters.
Did you put?
Patrick (19:19):
things through the chute to different buildings.
Warren (19:22):
No, I didn't do that, but I thought it was the coolest
thing when I was younger.
The postage machine, you put iton there, it weighs it, it zips
it through and it comes outwith a stamp.
You know it's like postcard isif we would still get mailed
resumes.
And if I got a mailed resume,my thank you no thank you letter
would be a little postcard.
There was a stack like fourinches tall of them.
Patrick (19:44):
Thanks, but no thanks postcard.
Warren (19:46):
Yeah, if I got a mail, that's how we did it back then.
But anyways, I said just, youknow, be careful what you say,
because it will be turned aroundand used against you.
And that's all really said,which was way too much probably.
Well, I'm getting my mail, orI'm in the mail room, for
whatever reason, and I hear himsaying, oh, and he says this.
And I was like, oh gosh, I madea mistake.
(20:09):
And luckily I already had onefoot out the door then and I was
like I'm glad that was, I wasout of there.
But I think I also told thisstory on the podcast.
I've been gone for almost ayear and the director who we
only overlap work together for amatter of months, not very long
(20:30):
he calls me at my new employerand I take his calls like Hmm,
this is interesting and hey, howcan I help you?
Oh, and he does small talk forlike 30 seconds.
He said, oh, I just called totell you that I I promoted that,
that that friend of me, to asenior HR generalist role.
I'm like, oh, okay, what?
(20:51):
All right, thanks for tellingme that.
Patrick (20:54):
I have no idea it was just really To this day that
still keeps you up.
Why did you get that phone call?
Warren (21:00):
Yeah, it was just weird Out of the blue.
I had no relationship with himafter I left except for that one
phone call.
I'm like he knew I didn't likeher obviously, and I think he
wanted to rub it in.
I did tell him early on yeah, Iwant to get out of recruiting,
I want to be more of ajournalist and things like that.
And next thing, you know, Ithink there was a little let's
(21:25):
piss you off.
This is a phone call.
The only intention is to pissyou off.
I think that's what we hadthere.
Have you had any frenemies atwork that you know that?
Patrick (21:37):
I don't know.
I try to think.
I tend to kind of get alongwith some people and I always
you can, you can always tellthose people, and I tend to just
kind of let them talk and dothe kind of like, yeah, totally
you know, kind of thing, andthen, as I'm like slowly backing
out the door, what a message.
So yeah I?
I don't know.
(21:58):
I maybe I'm that person.
You know, if every room you'rein has one of those, maybe it's
you uh so no, I, you know, Ithink I've probably been toxic,
my my fair share.
But yeah, I can't really thinkyou always have the people that,
like, you don't look forward tointeracting with, or that you
(22:18):
interact with just so much, andyou're like, oh, here we go
again, but that's.
I think just every hr personhas that people because you
interact with so many peopleinternally.
Um, so yeah, I think I've beenpretty fortunate if I do, I I
don't know for my whole work.
Workplace philosophy is so keepit separate anyway that if they
(22:41):
were there, I stopped thinkingabout them the moment I I left
and then they didn't leave alasting effect.
Warren (22:48):
Well, you brought up something.
Maybe you're the toxic person,not that I think you are you
have been.
But I know at times I have beenthe toxic person.
When you get so over your joband I don't want to say it's the
loud quitting or what have youbut you just get to the point
where when we worked togethertowards the end, I was at that
(23:12):
point where I couldn't keep thethings that go on in my head
from flying out my mouthsometimes and I said some things
, I got in some trouble, I wasover it and I said and did
things I probably shouldn't haveor not probably I shouldn't
have, period.
But I was just like, I was overit.
(23:35):
I was ready to go.
My time you know my best bydate had expired and I needed to
move on.
And I think I can say that well, in hindsight, versus I was
justus, I was just found myself,I don't know very pissed off
and irritable a lot.
Patrick (23:51):
For the time we worked together, are you saying?
Warren (23:54):
No, no, Like that's for every job you leave.
No, All my stories seem to havea common theme.
If it happens once, okay.
Twice and three times, you're aproblem.
Patrick (24:10):
Our time was good.
I still make sure that I haveour shared trash can that has
Warren and Patrick on it fromone of our moves, and I still
make sure.
I keep that trash can it stillhas the duct tape on it.
Very sentimental, a verysentimental trash.
Can it's a sentimental trash.
Can I'm going?
Warren (24:28):
to put my empty salad containers in it.
They're always nasty.
Who did you think of me?
Patrick (24:31):
Exactly.
Warren (24:34):
But I will also say the rest of our team helped keep me
together while I was in thattoxic mindset, Because we could
vent to each other and with eachother we could vent to each
other and with each other to.
Patrick (24:51):
you mentioned that and, like I've been in the
unfortunate circumstance wheremy last two companies I've
worked for, I've seen the hrteam turn over at least a
hundred percent and you startthinking like, hmm, if I am the
only one left standing from theoriginal in two different
companies, now Maybe it is me.
Andrew Quilpa (25:08):
No no.
Patrick (25:12):
I've seen a lot of HR turnover in my day, but that
might just be the industryhonestly, in general, it's the
last 10, 15 years you mentionedyou're about to celebrate 10
years there.
Warren (25:23):
I got an actual plaque for five years at my current
company.
People just don't stay inplaces as much as they used to.
Patrick (25:31):
Yeah, I never thought that would be me.
Honestly, my resume before thatwas like two and a half years,
2.8 years, like yeah.
Warren (25:39):
Well, the last episode, when I had Christina and Jasmine
on with me, we were talkingabout and you're younger than me
, you're a millennial with me wewere talking about and you're
younger me, you're a millennialand millennials came in and they
were job hoppy and they weredemanding and they were this and
that.
But now that they're in their30s and, dare I say, 40s, that
they are, they're they'rekicking ass in the workplace and
(26:03):
they, they got theirexperiences and they settled
down.
I think settling down was thekey there too.
Patrick (26:11):
Once millennials, everyone reached the age where
you're having kids and you'redoing these things.
You weren't making decisionsfor yourself anymore.
You had to make the bestdecision for your family.
That's a big thing.
I think with millennials isvery family-oriented and those
kind of things.
Andrew Quilpa (26:28):
I can see that.
Patrick (26:28):
I never thought about it till.
You said that, but I candefinitely see that I feel.
Warren (26:33):
And we've had the shitting on generation Z segment
of the shows of the show for solong and, who knows, they're
probably going to be the sameway.
And then I was reading anarticle Alpha is coming into the
workplace.
In the next I think it's fiveyears the alphas will be
entering the workplace.
Patrick (26:52):
Is that really what they're called?
Warren (26:53):
Why?
Yeah, I guess, to get to Z, yougot to start over again.
Patrick (26:59):
Well, what's millennial ?
I don't know.
It went from millennial to Z towhat X?
Warren (27:03):
Well, y'all were Y for a little while, and then it
changed to millennial.
Yeah yeah, y'all were too youngto care about it.
Okay, boomer, yeah, my kidsstill do that to me.
Patrick (27:18):
I don't care anymore.
You're not a boomer technically.
What generation?
No, no.
Warren (27:25):
I, you're not a boomer technically.
What generation?
No, no, I'm like, yeah, dude,10 years off of that, but I, I
have a lot aren't you amillennial?
Patrick (27:30):
technically, are you gen x, I'm, I'm x or x?
Warren (27:34):
yeah, okay, um, I'm a full-blood x, or I think I'm a
smack dab dab in the middle ofthe x x man so anyway, what?
What other annoying you know?
And then you have the annoyingemployees who come to hr to
complain.
You know they complain aboutsomething all the time and that
(27:59):
that's their thing.
They have to have something tocomplain about, and you know,
and most of it's not actionable,some of it's just trivial, you
know.
Patrick (28:09):
Oh, the garbage cans on park lot always full that's why
I love those weird quietemployees, because they come in
and do their shit and then theyleave.
But it's the ones who like areyou said, they have to just have
some purpose in their life tocomplain about, that?
They can't let anything go?
But just come in and do yourjob and leave.
(28:30):
That's the problem witheverything.
Just mind your own business,and the world would be a better
place.
Warren (28:40):
Oh, absolutely, a better place.
Oh, absolutely.
I'm on the record of blamingreality tv, all these real
housewife shows and all thatbecause everybody's got to be so
dramatic and over the top.
I don't, I don't.
I'm not on tiktok at all.
My wife watches it all the timeand I hear these girls talking
about just all this drama allthe time.
(29:01):
And I'm.
Life doesn't have to be thatway.
You know, there are some thingsyou can just let go, just oh,
that sucks, move on.
And I don't think that a lot ofpeople have that ability to say
oh life sucks.
Patrick (29:16):
Move on, just keep scrolling.
You don't have to stop andcomment, just keep scrolling.
Warren (29:21):
Yeah, okay, complaining about people.
My wife listens to tiktokwithout her earbuds in at full
volume.
Patrick (29:29):
So even if I'm in the bedroom, for the other podcasts
warren, complaining about ourbitching about your wife the how
, what's gonna cause me to get aday podcast?
Warren (29:41):
so oh, but yeah, the I, I just there's so many weird
people out there and no,honestly, some of them are just
damn good workers like.
So they come in, they get theirjob done and they get out and
they, they don't care and theydon't want to go to your
barbecue next saturday and theydon't want to tell you about
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their family and kids.
Patrick (30:03):
Yeah, it's almost like co -workers that try to get you
to drive to Virginia Beach atfive o'clock on a Friday.
Warren (30:07):
Oh, yeah, yeah, those type of people, you know those
people.
I'm going to try that againvery soon.
I was just thinking about that.
Patrick (30:19):
How about a Tuesday for lunch, because I'll already be?
Warren (30:24):
there.
I will start planning it now.
Tuesday, tuesday, if you are inthe group that would be eating
lunch with Patrick and I,tuesday too, expect a text very
shortly.
But anyways, we're sort of runthis topic of of annoying
(30:47):
employees.
You know, like I said, they'renot doing anything wrong until
they they do something.
And unfortunately here in hr wehave to hear the complaints
about somebody's weird,somebody's strange now, if
they're staring strangely andinappropriately or things like
that.
But just being a strange personoverall isn't anything.
Patrick (31:13):
If they have one of those canes that you could get
at Spencer's back in the daythat had a little mirror at the
bottom, maybe let HR knowSpencer's though.
Imagine being an HR person forSpencer's Like they had to have
them right.
I'm sure they would.
I bet that was interesting.
Warren (31:34):
Yeah, we were having this employee stole 30 dildos
from the new collection orwhatever.
Patrick (31:43):
Mark keeps taking those weird pills that make your
farts smell like sour apple.
I don't get it, but he justwon't stop taking them.
Warren (31:51):
But is he paying for them?
Oh gosh, spencer's is great, Idon't know if that's even around
.
Still, I'm sure it is, but thatwas a treat, I think it is, I
don't even know, the last timeI've been in a mall.
Patrick (32:07):
There's not any around that I can think of.
Warren (32:10):
Yeah, I work very close to one, but it's open.
It's there.
I see it.
Don't go in.
All right, we're going to landthat plane.
Best practice Stop complainingabout weird people, just let
them do their thing Bestpractice.
Patrick (32:27):
Go to Spencer's and get the pills that make your toots
smell like sour apples, toreally make your coworkers feel
special.
What is that smell?
I love it.
Man, did someone light a greatcandle in here?
What is that?
Warren (32:40):
Someone's got the lemon fresh pledge cleaning their
office.
Anyways, as always, do want tothank andrew colpa, the voice
artist, who does our intro andthe intro and outro.
Music is devil with the devilby the underscore orchestra.
I'm warren, I'm patrick, andwe're here helping you survive
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hr one.
What the fuck.
Moment at a time.
Had you actually read the email, you would know
that the podcast you are aboutto listen to could contain
explicit language and offensivecontent.
These HR experts' views are notrepresentative of their past,
present or future employers.
If you have ever heard mymanager is unfair to me.
I need you to reset my HRportal password, or Can I write
(00:24):
up my employee for crying toomuch?
Welcome to our little safe zone.
Welcome to Jaded HR.
Warren (00:51):
I didn't know what I was like.
What is that?
I want to say so Anyhow.
Welcome to Jaded HR, a podcastby two HR professionals who want
to help you get through theworkday by saying all the things
you're thinking, but say themout loud.
I'm Warren.
I'm Patrick Alrighty.
Patrick (01:05):
Patrick'm Warren, I'm Patrick.
All righty Patrick's back.
Warren keeps dragging me out ofthe ashes as the Phoenix rises.
Warren (01:13):
Yeah, I keep saying we'll release those photos on
Instagram or something and itworks yeah.
Patrick (01:20):
So, I keep trying I did change my number and everything
, and just Warren keeps poppingup.
It's really good.
Warren (01:29):
Just to give everybody a note.
Cece has had her baby.
Everybody's doing just fine.
So one of our future guesthosts is going to be Mr CeCe, so
we're trying to set a date onthat and I'm sure he'll give us
a much more thorough update thanthat to everybody.
But I do want to also thank ourPatreon supporters.
(01:51):
We're up to three, three.
So we have Hallie, the originalJaded HR Rockstar, we have Bill
and we have Michael.
So I want to thank you for thesupport.
I'm going to try to remember toactivate it, and saying it now
will probably make it activated.
But our host, buzzsprout, hasthis new feature that you can
just click in the show notes andit'll send a text to Jaded HR
(02:16):
and I think that'll be easier.
There's no phone numbers toremember or anything like that.
Just note, when you click thebutton, the first line is a
number like like a six-digitnumber, and you can't delete
that because nobody will get itif you don't, because that's how
the host feeds the text to thedifferent creators.
So go ahead and try that.
I'd love to hear from you Ifyou have a show idea, a funny
(02:38):
story, a comment, concern,criticism, something like that.
Want to give us a review in'llbe.
That'll be good and we will dothat.
So give that a check out.
I'm going to try and get thatactive.
That's brand new this week fromour hosts and I'm going to try
and get that activated before Ipublish this episode.
So a lot of fun things going on.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Dying for some guest feedback.
(03:00):
You know, every once in a whilewe get an email.
I haven't been on instagram, Ihaven't been active on it, so I
haven't.
I would get a notification ifsomeone dm'd me or something
like that, but I will.
I'm going to try and get on tothe socials a little bit more.
Patrick (03:14):
But yeah, I haven't checked your apple podcast
reviews in a while.
I imagine you keep up with thatpretty regularly.
Warren (03:19):
But I do.
I looked at it actually earlierthis morning.
Okay, we we have all except forone are five-star reviews and
the one one-star review.
I think it's out of 23, 24reviews, so those numbers of
people are five stars, that wehave one one-star review and the
person didn't leave anycomments.
So leave a review.
(03:39):
Hopefully it's five stars, butregardless, I'll read it on the
air.
If you give us one star and say, warren, you're full of shit
and you deserve to die ahorrible death or something like
that, then I'll read it.
But five star works a lotbetter for us.
Anyhow, anything before we diveinto our fun topic of the day,
fun thing, fun going on in yourworld, living the dream.
Patrick (04:01):
Slowly marching away from HR as fast as I can, but
yeah.
Slowly marching fast the HRSlife.
It's one of those things whereyou're slowly improving HR work
and trying to make the team moreefficient and automated.
Then you're like, hmm, I needto start a fire, so they keep me
(04:22):
.
Warren (04:24):
Create a problem that only you can solve Exactly.
So that's what I try to focuson every now and then Just you
know arson in there.
Patrick (04:31):
A little bit of that technology arson to keep job
security alive.
Warren (04:38):
Burned a place down.
Take my stapler.
Patrick (04:44):
Does anyone know?
The original was Office Space.
Yeah, Office Space.
I would hope so I think thatmovie holds up.
Warren (04:52):
It holds up.
Patrick (04:53):
Yeah, it should never die, especially if you don't
have enough flair on it and, tobe fair, I feel that it still
rings true today Everything theysay about it.
In any given day, sometimes Ionly do 15 minutes of real work.
I haven't really felt thatlately, but there are times when
you're like you know what.
I answered three emails today.
Warren (05:17):
See, for me it goes in splashes.
I'll go through days where it'sjust I don't have a lot on my
plate.
I'm one of those people whooperate better when there's more
on my plate.
Now I don't operate well at anoverload pace, but when there's
a lot on my plate I'm focused aswell as I can be, at least, and
I get things done.
When there's not a lot on myplate, then it's like okay.
Patrick (05:42):
It's the time you probably could.
You always have these.
I can organize all thesereports in this folder that I've
always needed to get to, butyou never do that when you
actually have the time to do it.
Warren (05:52):
Yeah, you do it.
When something goes foobar andyou have to do it, that's when
you do it.
You just light them on fire.
The last two Do I sense somepyromania going on?
There's something, yeah.
Patrick (06:06):
Something deep down the sides, rising up like the Great
Phoenix.
Warren (06:11):
Well, keep a fire extinguisher hinge, anyway, but
yeah, for the past two yearsI've had interns who will be
joining me full time this year,so I'm excited about that.
But she's gotten all the Idon't want to say the shit jobs.
But I would come up with thoseideas.
Oh, organize this file Like youwere talking about this file
structure.
Rewrite our SOPs, and this timeI want screenshots and I want
(06:35):
the little graphics to go along.
Make it even easier tounderstand.
Patrick (06:39):
She did all those things and yeah, yeah, I don't
know what it is about and I'msure every department is like
that, but anytime in HR we getsomeone new, it's like, oh, what
are we going to put them on?
Oh, I know, the first weeklet's have them go into like
every job description and cleanthose up.
You know just some random thingthat you've never done, but
like that's so wrong, becausethen you're just immediately
giving these new people justthese shit jobs.
Warren (07:01):
But yeah, that does happen all the time jobs.
But man, yeah, that does happenall the time.
I think it serves some value.
Well, especially like rewritingsops, they can get to see what
the sop is, the job descriptionsyou know.
Speaking of that, we like if wepost, I don't know, an
electrical engineer positiontoday, tomorrow's electrical
(07:23):
engineer position is going to becompletely different than what
they do.
I don't worry too much aboutkeeping the job descriptions up
to date because we sit down withthe hiring manager.
Okay, what are you looking fortoday?
And do they need whateverspecial skill set today that we
didn't need in the last one wehired and things like that.
So I like doing that as as thatsort of fun and interesting.
(07:45):
And it actually oh, I'm notbeing too jaded right now, but
it you learn about the companythrough talking about the these
job description and what theperson's going to be doing and
why this is different.
Hey, last week we hired someonesame title.
Why is this different?
You, you learn.
And oh, I want to talk aboutannoying employees today or
(08:12):
coworkers.
It doesn't have to benecessarily a employee, it can
be a coworker.
But I want to draw the link.
It's not somebody who's doingsomething overtly wrong that
they can be disciplined for Justweird people.
People are quirky, weird,eccentric, strange whatever the
(08:34):
adjective is for them.
Those weird people I know overmy career I've fielded more than
a few employee relations thingsand it just comes down to they
don't like this person, they'restrange, they're different,
they're weird, weird, they'recreepy, they're whatever it is,
(08:56):
but they haven't done.
And all those have been aboutme, people complaining about me,
but until they do somethingmore than that, you don't really
have your, but you know they'reI don't know.
You're sort of wait, you'rewaiting for something to happen
with some of these people thatare just Well, that's what I was
going to say.
Patrick (09:15):
Those are the ones that you become best friends with.
Is it Billy Madison?
Where the guy has the list?
He's like people to kill andhe's like Billy Madison is
really nice to him.
So he crashes him off his listand you see him there like
putting the lipstick on, likehe's a super creepy, weird guy.
Andrew Quilpa (09:33):
But he goes out of the way to apologize.
Patrick (09:37):
He goes out of the way to apologize for he calls him
and he's like I'm sorry forbeing mean to you in high school
or whatever you gotta befriends with those people,
because that's the ones youbreak into your HR office with
Burn the goddamn place down.
You're cool, get down.
Warren (09:54):
Well, some of the complaints I've had about weird
people or annoying people youknow I was telling the all-fair.
Someone complained this guy'sjust so weird.
He only has like three shirtsthat he wears.
I'm like we don't A lot ofpeople wear uniforms, only have
one shirt that they wear eachand every day and things like
(10:15):
that.
And you know this person Idon't know, just these weird
things that are not.
All this person does is talkabout.
I don't know legos, like Ithink legos are cool.
I don't have a collection.
I I have a very good friend whois ridiculously into Legos, but
you know that's their thing.
Podcasting is my thing, I guess, and I can talk your ears off
(10:39):
about podcasting, but it's goingto put everybody else in the
world to sleep.
But I'm trying to think ofother complaints I've had.
Patrick (10:48):
Yeah, I'm.
You know.
You always have like just thequiet people which I don't know.
I've been at my company foralmost 10 years and I still feel
like the rogue walking throughthe hallways.
Everyone's like does anyoneknow who that is or what he does
here?
I see him here every now andthen I feel like I could be that
(11:10):
person that just kind of sneaksthrough.
But you always have just thequiet guy that wears the trench
coat and's just comes in, doeshis job, doesn't talk to anybody
, then leaves and you knownothing wrong with that.
Warren (11:20):
Some people aren't but it does weird socialize, but it
does weird people out.
Patrick (11:24):
Yeah, but that's just because you know, if you're a
social butterfly in the office,then it's like, well, why isn't
this person talking?
It's like, well, well, maybe,sheila, he doesn't want to talk
to you, he just wants to get hisgoddamn job done and go home
when the clock is right.
Warren (11:39):
Yeah, so and I wish it weren't that way.
And once again, now I'm takingit an unjaded way and I don't
want to get into topics ofneurodiversity and all that
other stuff.
Let's just leave that off thetable.
It's just some people that arejust weird fucks.
Hell yeah, overall, and withoutwithout getting into health
(12:00):
issues, mental health issues oranything like that, but my thing
as a hr person why are wegetting a complaint about this
person who only wears threedifferent shirts, or you know
I'm not gonna get into, you knowI'm not going to get into you
know the hygiene issues.
That can be a legitimatecomplaint.
Is there creepy?
Here's another thing I've got.
Oh well, you know I want tocomplain.
(12:24):
This John Doe is he's justcreepy, he's weird.
I'm like, well, what has hedone?
He just sits there and he justdoes his job.
What is wrong with him?
Yeah, and sometimes he staresblankly at you and I'm like is
it in a he's blind, barbara.
Patrick (12:41):
Okay, god damn, we have his documentation.
He's not staring at you for thethousandth time.
Warren (12:50):
When I get employee relations complaint, one of the
questions I always ask towardsthe end is in an ideal world,
what would you like to see doneto fix this problem?
And a lot of times, hey, I justwant to let someone know or I
just want to vent, but when theycome to you with you know this
guy's creepy like, is hestanding outside the ladies room
(13:12):
with a camera or something likethat?
I I don't know.
But when they don't have anyammo there, there's no there
there like, well, you know, andI I won't ask that question.
Look, based on what you've toldme, there's really nothing I
can say or do.
He hasn't done anything wrongand and things like that.
And unfortunately, I don'tthink I've ever had a complaint
(13:34):
think about it, employeerelations complaint about a
creepy, a weird woman.
It's always dudes, uh, that uhare, are strange and weird and
do what people considerdisturbing things or things.
Oh, people who eat loudly.
Oh I, I heard this one once.
I want to say it's where weworked together once Another
(13:54):
employee.
Patrick (13:55):
Is it an employee that just kept he kept cutting his
salad at his desk all the time?
Was that I think about that?
I that's my go-to.
I go to Kroger get a salad andthen I cut it at my desk and I'm
like you know what, I amprobably that employee that
someone's like God damn it, hecuts his fucking salad at his
desk every day.
It drives me crazy.
Warren (14:17):
Or you want to know something that drives me crazy
Grammar, grammar drives me crazy.
I know I don't have the best,but there's a particular person
I know that misconjugatesvirtually every verb in the
English language Native-bornEnglish-American speaker, double
(14:39):
negatives out the yin-yang,uses words they don't know what
the meanings are, are, andsometimes when I just hear this
person start to speak, they haveonly said like two words.
I'm like tensing up because I'mabout to have a little
conniption, because what'scoming?
I just grammar is and I'm nottalking about colloquialisms If
(14:59):
you want to say yuns and y'alland things like that.
Patrick (15:19):
So I don't care about that.
I'm talking about, like I said,I don't care about that.
I'm talking about, like I said,misconjugating verbs.
It bothers me.
Their grammar was so bad thatthey were almost nothing was
legible when they were typingemails.
They couldn't understand whatthey were saying, but this
person was like they shrugged itoff and they were like yeah,
basically made jokes about howeveryone thinks my grammar is
(15:39):
bad, but they just didn't careand didn't correct it.
Can you imagine your vendorfacing contact is getting
complaints about that?
Warren (15:49):
Yeah, I think in a forward facing position like a
recruiter, that's something thathas to be there because you're
representing the company, You'rethat person's first contact
with the company and if you arenot able to communicate well,
then you're representing thecompany badly and I would have
(16:14):
to say something about that asan HR person.
But it's just really, reallybad, yeah.
So before the show today, we'retalking about frenemies
Frenemies at work.
Before the show today, we'retalking about frenemies
frenemies at work.
Now, that's another interestingarea that you know, because
(16:35):
workplace can be just like ajunior high school with some of
these people's relationships.
Patrick (16:51):
And I've only had one instance of interacting with a
frenemy I learned my lesson.
Warren (16:54):
Uh, can you define that like?
How are you meaning so?
Someone who, well, I'll justtell my story.
This person was as sweet as shecould be, to your face and
always saying, oh, how wonderfuleverything is and how happy and
how you know they work with you, but they will be the the first
to draw the knife and stab youin the back If given the
opportunity they work in payroll.
They work, payroll, oh man.
(17:18):
Are you speaking to someone?
We know?
Patrick (17:20):
No, definitely not.
Warren (17:21):
No, okay, but this person is we did not work
together this but I thought, oh,this person's really cool, they
can help me.
When I started, they can helpme and they can help me grow and
learn the company a little bit.
And I quickly learned that Ifound a toxic person and she'd
been there before me and she wasthere after me and I think I've
(17:44):
mentioned at this particularcompany.
I was there six years and Ithink I've mentioned at this
particular company.
I was there six years and Ithink we had 12 HR head of HRs
you can pick the title of theday because everyone seemed to
have a different one but one ofthem, the last one while I was
there came in and he asked me tofirst.
I've also told this story.
I did not like our HR department.
I was a recruiter there and wewe moved office spaces and there
(18:08):
was not enough desk in the hallthat was going to have HR and
finance on it.
So somebody not enough officeshad to go to the IT hall and
they're like you know, there'sjust not all off offices.
Is anybody willing to go workon the IT hall?
My hand went up so quickly.
I was like you know, I workedbeside them for the next three
(18:29):
years or so and it actuallyhelped keep me there longer, as
I think I'd been sort ofsurrounded by the rest of the HR
team, because as a recruiteryou're not you know directly HR,
you're sort of HR adjacent.
Patrick (18:45):
HR stepchild.
Warren (18:47):
Yeah, exactly.
But anyways, the final HRdirector, manager, whatever the
title was going to be that timecame in and he's asked me to lay
the land.
He's asked me about the people,the staff and what I thought
about each of them.
And I actually said I'll letyou form your own opinion, but I
would be very cautious what Isay around this person.
(19:09):
And a few days later I go tothe mail room, which was on the
HR and finance hall, becauseback then I actually had to mail
letters.
Did you put?
Patrick (19:19):
things through the chute to different buildings.
Warren (19:22):
No, I didn't do that, but I thought it was the coolest
thing when I was younger.
The postage machine, you put iton there, it weighs it, it zips
it through and it comes outwith a stamp.
You know it's like postcard isif we would still get mailed
resumes.
And if I got a mailed resume,my thank you no thank you letter
would be a little postcard.
There was a stack like fourinches tall of them.
Patrick (19:44):
Thanks, but no thanks postcard.
Warren (19:46):
Yeah, if I got a mail, that's how we did it back then.
But anyways, I said just, youknow, be careful what you say,
because it will be turned aroundand used against you.
And that's all really said,which was way too much probably.
Well, I'm getting my mail, orI'm in the mail room, for
whatever reason, and I hear himsaying, oh, and he says this.
And I was like, oh gosh, I madea mistake.
(20:09):
And luckily I already had onefoot out the door then and I was
like I'm glad that was, I wasout of there.
But I think I also told thisstory on the podcast.
I've been gone for almost ayear and the director who we
only overlap work together for amatter of months, not very long
(20:30):
he calls me at my new employerand I take his calls like Hmm,
this is interesting and hey, howcan I help you?
Oh, and he does small talk forlike 30 seconds.
He said, oh, I just called totell you that I I promoted that,
that that friend of me, to asenior HR generalist role.
I'm like, oh, okay, what?
(20:51):
All right, thanks for tellingme that.
Patrick (20:54):
I have no idea it was just really To this day that
still keeps you up.
Why did you get that phone call?
Warren (21:00):
Yeah, it was just weird Out of the blue.
I had no relationship with himafter I left except for that one
phone call.
I'm like he knew I didn't likeher obviously, and I think he
wanted to rub it in.
I did tell him early on yeah, Iwant to get out of recruiting,
I want to be more of ajournalist and things like that.
And next thing, you know, Ithink there was a little let's
(21:25):
piss you off.
This is a phone call.
The only intention is to pissyou off.
I think that's what we hadthere.
Have you had any frenemies atwork that you know that?
Patrick (21:37):
I don't know.
I try to think.
I tend to kind of get alongwith some people and I always
you can, you can always tellthose people, and I tend to just
kind of let them talk and dothe kind of like, yeah, totally
you know, kind of thing, andthen, as I'm like slowly backing
out the door, what a message.
So yeah I?
I don't know.
(21:58):
I maybe I'm that person.
You know, if every room you'rein has one of those, maybe it's
you uh so no, I, you know, Ithink I've probably been toxic,
my my fair share.
But yeah, I can't really thinkyou always have the people that,
like, you don't look forward tointeracting with, or that you
(22:18):
interact with just so much, andyou're like, oh, here we go
again, but that's.
I think just every hr personhas that people because you
interact with so many peopleinternally.
Um, so yeah, I think I've beenpretty fortunate if I do, I I
don't know for my whole work.
Workplace philosophy is so keepit separate anyway that if they
(22:41):
were there, I stopped thinkingabout them the moment I I left
and then they didn't leave alasting effect.
Warren (22:48):
Well, you brought up something.
Maybe you're the toxic person,not that I think you are you
have been.
But I know at times I have beenthe toxic person.
When you get so over your joband I don't want to say it's the
loud quitting or what have youbut you just get to the point
where when we worked togethertowards the end, I was at that
(23:12):
point where I couldn't keep thethings that go on in my head
from flying out my mouthsometimes and I said some things
, I got in some trouble, I wasover it and I said and did
things I probably shouldn't haveor not probably I shouldn't
have, period.
But I was just like, I was overit.
(23:35):
I was ready to go.
My time you know my best bydate had expired and I needed to
move on.
And I think I can say that well, in hindsight, versus I was
justus, I was just found myself,I don't know very pissed off
and irritable a lot.
Patrick (23:51):
For the time we worked together, are you saying?
Warren (23:54):
No, no, Like that's for every job you leave.
No, All my stories seem to havea common theme.
If it happens once, okay.
Twice and three times, you're aproblem.
Patrick (24:10):
Our time was good.
I still make sure that I haveour shared trash can that has
Warren and Patrick on it fromone of our moves, and I still
make sure.
I keep that trash can it stillhas the duct tape on it.
Very sentimental, a verysentimental trash.
Can it's a sentimental trash.
Can I'm going?
Warren (24:28):
to put my empty salad containers in it.
They're always nasty.
Who did you think of me?
Patrick (24:31):
Exactly.
Warren (24:34):
But I will also say the rest of our team helped keep me
together while I was in thattoxic mindset, Because we could
vent to each other and with eachother we could vent to each
other and with each other to.
Patrick (24:51):
you mentioned that and, like I've been in the
unfortunate circumstance wheremy last two companies I've
worked for, I've seen the hrteam turn over at least a
hundred percent and you startthinking like, hmm, if I am the
only one left standing from theoriginal in two different
companies, now Maybe it is me.
Andrew Quilpa (25:08):
No no.
Patrick (25:12):
I've seen a lot of HR turnover in my day, but that
might just be the industryhonestly, in general, it's the
last 10, 15 years you mentionedyou're about to celebrate 10
years there.
Warren (25:23):
I got an actual plaque for five years at my current
company.
People just don't stay inplaces as much as they used to.
Patrick (25:31):
Yeah, I never thought that would be me.
Honestly, my resume before thatwas like two and a half years,
2.8 years, like yeah.
Warren (25:39):
Well, the last episode, when I had Christina and Jasmine
on with me, we were talkingabout and you're younger than me
, you're a millennial with me wewere talking about and you're
younger me, you're a millennialand millennials came in and they
were job hoppy and they weredemanding and they were this and
that.
But now that they're in their30s and, dare I say, 40s, that
they are, they're they'rekicking ass in the workplace and
(26:03):
they, they got theirexperiences and they settled
down.
I think settling down was thekey there too.
Patrick (26:11):
Once millennials, everyone reached the age where
you're having kids and you'redoing these things.
You weren't making decisionsfor yourself anymore.
You had to make the bestdecision for your family.
That's a big thing.
I think with millennials isvery family-oriented and those
kind of things.
Andrew Quilpa (26:28):
I can see that.
Patrick (26:28):
I never thought about it till.
You said that, but I candefinitely see that I feel.
Warren (26:33):
And we've had the shitting on generation Z segment
of the shows of the show for solong and, who knows, they're
probably going to be the sameway.
And then I was reading anarticle Alpha is coming into the
workplace.
In the next I think it's fiveyears the alphas will be
entering the workplace.
Patrick (26:52):
Is that really what they're called?
Warren (26:53):
Why?
Yeah, I guess, to get to Z, yougot to start over again.
Patrick (26:59):
Well, what's millennial ?
I don't know.
It went from millennial to Z towhat X?
Warren (27:03):
Well, y'all were Y for a little while, and then it
changed to millennial.
Yeah yeah, y'all were too youngto care about it.
Okay, boomer, yeah, my kidsstill do that to me.
Patrick (27:18):
I don't care anymore.
You're not a boomer technically.
What generation?
No, no.
Warren (27:25):
I, you're not a boomer technically.
What generation?
No, no, I'm like, yeah, dude,10 years off of that, but I, I
have a lot aren't you amillennial?
Patrick (27:30):
technically, are you gen x, I'm, I'm x or x?
Warren (27:34):
yeah, okay, um, I'm a full-blood x, or I think I'm a
smack dab dab in the middle ofthe x x man so anyway, what?
What other annoying you know?
And then you have the annoyingemployees who come to hr to
complain.
You know they complain aboutsomething all the time and that
(27:59):
that's their thing.
They have to have something tocomplain about, and you know,
and most of it's not actionable,some of it's just trivial, you
know.
Patrick (28:09):
Oh, the garbage cans on park lot always full that's why
I love those weird quietemployees, because they come in
and do their shit and then theyleave.
But it's the ones who like areyou said, they have to just have
some purpose in their life tocomplain about, that?
They can't let anything go?
But just come in and do yourjob and leave.
(28:30):
That's the problem witheverything.
Just mind your own business,and the world would be a better
place.
Warren (28:40):
Oh, absolutely, a better place.
Oh, absolutely.
I'm on the record of blamingreality tv, all these real
housewife shows and all thatbecause everybody's got to be so
dramatic and over the top.
I don't, I don't.
I'm not on tiktok at all.
My wife watches it all the timeand I hear these girls talking
about just all this drama allthe time.
(29:01):
And I'm.
Life doesn't have to be thatway.
You know, there are some thingsyou can just let go, just oh,
that sucks, move on.
And I don't think that a lot ofpeople have that ability to say
oh life sucks.
Patrick (29:16):
Move on, just keep scrolling.
You don't have to stop andcomment, just keep scrolling.
Warren (29:21):
Yeah, okay, complaining about people.
My wife listens to tiktokwithout her earbuds in at full
volume.
Patrick (29:29):
So even if I'm in the bedroom, for the other podcasts
warren, complaining about ourbitching about your wife the how
, what's gonna cause me to get aday podcast?
Warren (29:41):
so oh, but yeah, the I, I just there's so many weird
people out there and no,honestly, some of them are just
damn good workers like.
So they come in, they get theirjob done and they get out and
they, they don't care and theydon't want to go to your
barbecue next saturday and theydon't want to tell you about
(30:02):
their family and kids.
Patrick (30:03):
Yeah, it's almost like co -workers that try to get you
to drive to Virginia Beach atfive o'clock on a Friday.
Warren (30:07):
Oh, yeah, yeah, those type of people, you know those
people.
I'm going to try that againvery soon.
I was just thinking about that.
Patrick (30:19):
How about a Tuesday for lunch, because I'll already be?
Warren (30:24):
there.
I will start planning it now.
Tuesday, tuesday, if you are inthe group that would be eating
lunch with Patrick and I,tuesday too, expect a text very
shortly.
But anyways, we're sort of runthis topic of of annoying
(30:47):
employees.
You know, like I said, they'renot doing anything wrong until
they they do something.
And unfortunately here in hr wehave to hear the complaints
about somebody's weird,somebody's strange now, if
they're staring strangely andinappropriately or things like
that.
But just being a strange personoverall isn't anything.
Patrick (31:13):
If they have one of those canes that you could get
at Spencer's back in the daythat had a little mirror at the
bottom, maybe let HR knowSpencer's though.
Imagine being an HR person forSpencer's Like they had to have
them right.
I'm sure they would.
I bet that was interesting.
Warren (31:34):
Yeah, we were having this employee stole 30 dildos
from the new collection orwhatever.
Patrick (31:43):
Mark keeps taking those weird pills that make your
farts smell like sour apple.
I don't get it, but he justwon't stop taking them.
Warren (31:51):
But is he paying for them?
Oh gosh, spencer's is great, Idon't know if that's even around
.
Still, I'm sure it is, but thatwas a treat, I think it is, I
don't even know, the last timeI've been in a mall.
Patrick (32:07):
There's not any around that I can think of.
Warren (32:10):
Yeah, I work very close to one, but it's open.
It's there.
I see it.
Don't go in.
All right, we're going to landthat plane.
Best practice Stop complainingabout weird people, just let
them do their thing Bestpractice.
Patrick (32:27):
Go to Spencer's and get the pills that make your toots
smell like sour apples, toreally make your coworkers feel
special.
What is that smell?
I love it.
Man, did someone light a greatcandle in here?
What is that?
Warren (32:40):
Someone's got the lemon fresh pledge cleaning their
office.
Anyways, as always, do want tothank andrew colpa, the voice
artist, who does our intro andthe intro and outro.
Music is devil with the devilby the underscore orchestra.
I'm warren, I'm patrick, andwe're here helping you survive
(33:01):
hr one.
What the fuck.
Moment at a time.
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