January 13, 2025 • 46 mins
Ever wonder how a viral TikTok could spark a whirlwind of conspiracy theories and legal worries?
Join us as we navigate the chaos that ensued after our clip about a rumored story involving Justin Bieber and P Diddy caught fire, only to be yanked from the platform. Tisha opens up about the anxiety of facing mean comments and the specter of legal threats, while we muse over big-picture issues like online censorship and the allure of conspiracy theories. Despite the wild speculations, we emphasize that our discussions are purely speculative, inviting listeners to think critically about the content they consume.
In a world obsessed with appearances, we grapple with maintaining authenticity amidst societal pressures, especially when the holiday season magnifies expectations. Reflecting on personal struggles with self-esteem and public scrutiny, we strive to build genuine connections by sharing our imperfect realities. Like the raw charm of early reality TV, our journey reveals the messiness of life, reinforcing that it's okay to be flawed. Our conversations highlight the importance of grace and staying true to oneself, even when past stories are less than pristine.
As the festive season approaches, we tackle the intricacies of holiday gift-giving and the Instagram-induced pressures that cloud the joy of giving and receiving. From mismatched presents to childhood nostalgia, we share humorous stories about the dynamics of family traditions, the impact of social media on children's perceptions, and the complexities of managing expectations. With a blend of humor and insight, our discussion explores the balance between thoughtful gifting and avoiding the commercial holiday trap, reminding everyone that a bit of chaos makes the season all the more memorable.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Jerking Around, a podcast that makes you
feel better about yourself,because we're a mess just like
you and Crystal makes fun of meall the time and it's great and
it's real.
Welcome to Jerking Around.
(00:25):
Today we talk about how muchtrouble we get in for this
podcast and we break downChristmas and being a healthy
giver in the bedroom.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh, we didn't talk about UFOs.
We'll talk about that next time.
Listen along, welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Jerking Around.
So there's so much to talkabout today because we skipped a
week, because Tisha went on atraveling ban again Stop, not
ban, that's the wrong word.
But she went to Disneyland andto see family.
So we missed last week, whichwas fine.
Tyler and I were very sick, butTyler doesn't stop working.
He worked the whole time.
Yeah, but we got in a lot oftrouble while we were gone.
(01:02):
We had our first TikTok goviral, which is pretty exciting.
Yeah, but Tisha was in thefetal position the whole time.
Yeah, I don't think it wasexciting.
Tisha hated it.
I loved it.
If you guys saw it was aboutJustin.
Bieber and P Diddy's allegedstory.
But what's so interesting aboutthat is, I feel like Tisha and
(01:24):
I have obviously been conspiracyor truth people.
Um, a lot of our friends sayit's conspiracy.
We don't think so, but I mean,some stuff is like we, we didn't
think the election would golike it did and, um, I've gone
too far many times where Ibelieve all of it sometimes, um,
but I've been watching peoplefor years and I feel like when
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you get censored, you've made itand our video got taken off of
TikTok all by itself like we hadno say in it.
So the alleged thing that wetalked about and you have to
listen because, uh, I don'tthink Tisha will.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Let me say it again, right, the alleged thing is
between what episode?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
was that on?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
two times times ago.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Right, Justin Bieber and P Diddy's sons.
The alleged story AllegedAlleged being the keyword, but
why would TikTok take it down?
There's so much garbage onTikTok, why would they have
taken it down?
If it's not, maybe true?
That's where I'm at Well whathappened?
We're getting my husband's likestop talking, I don't want
people at the house I know like,and the people are so mean on
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the comments.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
They they were calling me old and all these
things and then they were sayingI was gonna get sued by Justin
Bieber and like I lost sleepover these comments be told we
love Justin Bieber.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
He's like one of my favorite people ever and all I
was saying.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It was literally a two second clip of our whole
podcast.
I said I saw online that one ofthe lawsuits against Diddy she
was alleging that this happenedand it went viral and it was
like I mean, I've never it mademe feel bad, though, for
celebrities.
You know, like when celebritiesare like oh, they're the mean
(02:58):
comments online, I'm always likelike Kylie Jenner's, like oh,
the mean comments.
I'm like, oh my gosh, who cares?
Like the mean comments youreally do.
Now I understand the commentsare so mean and like it's so
upsetting and then thinking Iwas gonna get sued, I was so
stressed out so maybe we need tohave like a disclaimer.
This is just stuff we've heardand read and seen and this is
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not factual until it's proven.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think the fact that it got taken down is factual.
But until it's proven, I thinkthe fact that it got taken down
is factual.
But Tisha's more worried than Iam.
Maybe I should be more worried.
I just think I didn't know Ishould have spit out my gum.
I didn't know all this stuffbefore you and I feel like it's
also our job to.
It's not about like, obviously,in that story, but I do think
people need to know more thatthis stuff is out there and the
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only way they find out is bytalking about it.
I'm not saying everything'strue, but I'm saying think about
it.
Like when you start thinkingabout all of it, like I don't
even want to go into Oprah, butwe're going there.
But Oprah has all these schoolsfor kids and they talk about,
like the kids that are beingtrafficked a lot of times are in
like a system.
That's why, like, their parentsaren't fighting for them.
(04:05):
A lot of foster kids aretrafficked.
It's awful, it's a that's a factand the fact that a few of
these celebrities who supposedlylike, if we go into the wayfair
scandal yeah, so the wayfairscandal was actually pizzagate.
There was like a documentary Iwatched on youtube about the
pizza thing.
And did you hear Diddy talkingabout pizza from jail?
No, wait, for real, oh my gosh.
(04:28):
He's like talking to one of hisguards and he's like you got to
remove the pizza boxes fromjail.
It's like a recorded call andhe's like any unused.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That can't be real, really.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh, okay, diddy, and Justin Bieber.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
No, I'm just saying like why would he be talking?
How does he have a pizza box injail?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
No at his house when he first got arrested.
He's telling them to removeunused pizza boxes.
Oh, that means kids.
Yeah, that are in the tunnels.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
The tunnels is like a whole new thing, though I know
I did see the tunnel.
I saw a tunnel video about aguy who worked at a Starbucks
underneath the tunnel videoabout a guy who worked at a
Starbucks underneath the tunnel.
He was on a podcast and he wassaying he was the barista at a
Starbucks underneath thesetunnels that, like the elites
take to get around the cityfaster.
But then some people said acomment and I felt like it was
(05:18):
actually a really good point.
They were like why would Kobebe driving a helicopter then to
get away with traffic?
But a helicopter is stillfaster than the tunnels.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
True, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, and it was like far sothey probably didn't have.
They were saying they pop upeverywhere like LAX, no we got
it.
Tyler, I don't know about you,but I like playing the clips
when I listen.
I like it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
You used to work at a secret Starbucks.
Is that right?
Is that right?
Yeah, there is a Starbucks thatis like above reserve, like a
Starbucks no one's ever heard ofor been to.
All right, you ever wonderedwhile driving in Los Angeles,
how come you've never seen likeWill Smith stuck in traffic on
the 405?
Yeah, I've never seen a 1%-erjust in their car stuck in
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traffic.
Why is that?
That's because there's a seriesof intricate tunnels underneath
Los Angeles, known as the actorbond.
I'm not kidding, like they getaccess points to move through
the city without ever having tobe in traffic.
You can come up in LAX.
You can pop up at DodgerStadium.
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Underneath there, in thosetunnels, is Starbucks's set up
at different locations to allowthem to get coffees while
they're driving.
All of them they don't pay thereeither you've seen seinfeld
down there?
I know I've seen seinfeld downthere.
Dude, almond milk, latte, twoshots.
(06:39):
Wow, yeah, is he a good tipper?
They don't have to pay, so thishas been.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Crazy.
This is alleged, but it's onanother podcast.
Bill Posey is his name.
It's on his podcast.
This guy had an NDA signed andit expired, so now he's allowed
to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
But then someone was saying NDAs don't expire, you
never know how it's written.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, it could have been your term of while you're
working at Starbucks.
It's not like a normal NDA,it's like a employment NDA, so
it could have been while theywere working at.
These are all alleged things,but it's weird how much the
tunnel topic comes up.
That's my whole thing is like.
When I first heard about theunderground tunnels at people's
houses, I was like okay.
Then when it came up like 10different times, 10 different
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things, I'm like this is kind ofweird.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So we're not saying it's true, we're saying look
into it if you're curious.
Well, there was a girl that waslike allegedly trafficked and
she was saying she was movedthrough the tunnels but then
they were calling her crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So I don't know that's what they called Kanye
when he was trying to speak upabout all these people.
Like it is crazy, mel Gibson,but Mel Gibson, but it's, yeah,
mel, like the people that havedied of pneumonia.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Everybody the hamburger.
What Mel Gibson, when they likemade him crazy because he was
like something with thehamburger.
What did he do with thehamburger?
He was drunk, and so they likereleased this video because he
was talking about all thetrafficking and pedophilia and
then they tried to make him looklike he was drunk.
Now I'm getting scared.
I know I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Okay, anyways, maybe we should cut.
No, we're not cutting.
Tisha woke up this morning.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
We want to cut every episode, everything I'm sick
about it Because I got in alittle trouble this weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You know this life isn't for the week.
Yeah, I've gotten in trouble byfriends and family.
So if you're one of my friendsand family and you secretly
listen, I love you and I loveall of your beliefs and any of
our friends that believedifferently than us.
We love you.
But we're just Tisha and I justthink when we're alone and
we're talking it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So we just want to share what it's like being on
the Well, when you're here, itdoesn't seem like anyone's going
to listen, and then when it'sout there, it's very different.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I listen to our episodes and I don't think
there's anything that wrong.
I think part of my wholepassion project with this thing
is I think there's so muchfakeness in the world that I'm
so sick of the fakeness.
I talked to so many womenbecause I'm a little bit more
outgoing than Tisha, but Italked to people about weird
things and when I talk to peopleI get like really deep really
fast.
And I've talked to so manypeople that are like wait, you
do you go through that, or yourmarriage isn't perfect all the
time, or you get sick of yourkids.
(09:05):
And I think that's what peopleare curious about about old
school reality tv.
Like when the Kardashians firstcame out, it was interesting
that they're like us yeah, youknow.
And like when I used tosubscribe to us weekly, my
favorite section was they'relike us.
We're not celebrities at all,but I think sometimes we're so
open with each other it's theconnecting with people Because
(09:26):
we've been friends for so longthat we don't like we're not
fake to each other and I justwant to share that with other
people.
Like when you tell me about youand Ben's fights, I feel more
normal, right.
And when you tell me that yourfamily time isn't like lolly
doll like it looks on Instagram,right, and you're my best
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friend, right.
I'm like okay, like Kyle and I,this holidays were super weird
for me this year without my dad,and my family was on a cruise
and I didn't see my other family.
It was hard, I think.
Last year we went on a cruiseand we got to escape it.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And it was hard and like one night I was like this
isn't like what it's supposed tobe, like it's supposed to be
like it's supposed to be.
And Kyle's like crystal, myhusband, he's like that's not
real.
Everybody has hard times andeverybody goes through this and
you're like too hard on yourselfbecause I always worry if I'm
enough.
Was my Christmas enough?
Is our family time enough?
Am I working too much?
Am I being a good enough wife?
Like I literally stress aboutbeing enough every day.
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So I just want people to knowall these things are normal and
the things we talk about.
The celebrity gossip is justfun, like it's interesting, we
really talk about some.
we do talk about this all thetime and we don't really.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You don't have to agree or not agree, it's just
interesting and it's like anescape conspiracy podcast, but
we do talk about that stuff, sowe just included it, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, and, like to me , I think those celebrities put
themselves out there.
It's part of the territory.
As the comments that werecoming in, I told Tisha not to
listen, not to read them.
The people that are commentingdon't know us, like who cares
what random people think aboutus, and I do think we're going
to have to get a thicker skin ifwe're going down this path.
Well, that's the thing Ithought.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I had a thick skin.
No, you don't, and then I waslike oh, shoot, I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
No, I know you don't.
That's why I don't want you tolisten, because you worry too
much about what random peoplethink.
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, it was very, oh my gosh, and I didn't.
I honestly in life I don't carewhat people thinks, and I do
feel that way because I don't.
But I've never put myself outthere, so they don't really know
me.
So I know when they thinksomething, I'm like that's
(11:31):
stupid.
But now I'm like I'm puttingmyself out there and I'm getting
called old and mid and allthese crazy things.
I'm like it's awful.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
They were like why do these two have a podcast it you
have a podcast.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
It's stupid, she's crying.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I'm like, no, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Tyler believes in us, our pod daddy.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I was like old.
And we don't care, we're justdoing this.
Honestly.
It feels like a calling yeah,like we're supposed to do it.
Not that we're supposed to talkabout celebrities and this
stuff, but I just like, if I'mgoing to say certain things to
(12:10):
you, I don't want to not saythat in front of other people,
because that's fake and apassion project for me.
As Christians, people judge, um,christians for being one way
and then, in secret, beinganother way, and so, like I was
listening to last week's episodeand it wasn't my favorite
listening to me um, have somedrinks in college and I was
(12:32):
really honest about that.
I felt like an idiot listening.
I'm like, oh my gosh, mycheerleaders are going to know
this and I.
But I'm like, but that's notfair, because that is my story.
I was a Christian that went offthe clear path and that's part
of God's journey for me is thatgrace is where he loves us, in
spite of Right, all the thingsGrace is in spite of.
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If you're going to say, like Ididn't do everything right, but
I still ended up with a greathusband and a great life, and
I'm getting on a soapbox Forthose of you that think maybe
you've made too many mistakesthat you can't get right.
You can get right, like we areboth, so not perfect.
So I am a Christian.
(13:17):
I try to be more like Jesusevery day, but the truth is half
the day I'm doing it wrong.
I am so doing it wrong and I'mtrying to do it right, but I'm
not ashamed of that, becausethat's his job to judge us and
it's his job to love us.
In spite of ourselves and asChristians and of people, I hope
we try to be more, have moregrace with others too.
So those friends and familythat are mad at me right now
maybe have some grace and knowI'm just talking about shows.
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It's not offensive to you.
So you know I got in troublefor talking about certain shows
and maybe I offended a certainculture, but I'm not.
I'm not trying to, but we didtalk about these shows.
We talk about them all the time.
So I don't know, this soapboxis a tangent, but it's hard.
I hope that we're beingauthentic to who we really are
and if you don't really like whowe are, don't listen.
A lot of times people's eventsis really more to do with them.
(14:00):
Right, which is funny becauselast week's podcast cause I
asked a few of um, like ourjerkies and friends and family
that listened to every podcastif I offended them with certain
things that I've said and thisand that, and they're like no,
not at all.
You know you got to listen tothe whole episode for it to make
sense.
Um, but last week's episode wasabout don't be easily offended.
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It was about that churchservice.
So I was talking to my cousin.
I'm like, was I offensive tothis person?
That person?
She's like.
No, she's like.
And the funniest thing is, lastweek's episode was about don't
be easily offended.
Well, hopefully they listenedto that episode.
Well, and when I re-listened itreminded me I can't live for
what people want.
I have to live created me to dothis podcast with my best
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friend and I mean I'm not sayingwe, we, what we say isn't
always right, we're just beingourselves.
So that's my soapbox.
Moving on, let's talk aboutmore celebrity.
Okay, kim Kardashian, again,she's not my friend, this is not
alleged because the video ofher doing Santa baby is god
awful.
It's very weird.
I just think like I don't wanttheir life.
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I do kind of want theirChristmas Eve party.
Sometimes it looks pretty funlike maybe.
I just think like I don't wanttheir life.
I do kind of want theirChristmas Eve party.
Sometimes it looks pretty funLike, maybe I just want to be
invited, yeah, but I don'tanymore now that I know.
Did they not have it this yearthough, because I didn't see any
?
It's real secret.
So Chloe didn't go, yeah, withthe kids.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Right, but no one posted.
Usually they post everything.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oops, maybe it was in the tunnels, maybe no, but it's
weird, yeah.
But Kim's life, I just feellike it's, I don't.
I feel bad, I feel like she'schasing all those things and I
don't think her family life isas fun as she would want it to
be if she wasn't in thespotlight.
I think there's a lot ofnegative that comes with being
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in the spotlight.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Oh, totally.
You know, yeah, the video,though, is really bizarre.
If anyone has seen it it's um,she does a cover of Santa baby,
and Travis Barker produced themusic video, which I was like,
oh, that's kind of disappointing, because I really liked him.
Yeah, but he's an artist.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, like if it wasn't Kim Kardashian, it'd be a
video you'd watch, just becauseyou're like weird, like artists
aren't like, yeah, it was verydark and disturbing, the video.
I didn't watch the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Oh, you didn't.
There's like Jesus is in it,and oh, I didn't see that.
Yeah, it's like I just watchedher crawling on the floor and
stuff.
No, there's like it's likeJesus is in it, but it's like
weird.
There's like a lot of reallyweird dark.
Oh, I didn't watch the wholething Like satanic vibes, it was
just weird.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I don't know, I didn't love it.
Do you see how they dress?
Yeah, but it's weird becausethey talk about God all the time
.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
That's what I was like.
It's very confusing, I don'tthink we'll know what really
goes on.
I was like I would beuncomfortable making that video
because I feel like God would belike look's talk about.
Christmas and how it was youwere out of town.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
How was that?
Was it?
We were out of town last year.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
It was weird it was gone for Christmas and I feel
like the kids.
Well, first we went toDisneyland, and that was before
Christmas, so that was finebecause it is Christmassy there,
but then we can you tell you'renot gonna like this?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
oh no can you tell the story about when you got mad
at everybody and yelled aboutbeing ungrateful?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I, we did.
I told it last week no, youtold it to me in private no, we
covered it here, remember, Isaid, I cried, I said the f-word
oh, oh yeah, but yeah now youdid tell all that and now you
won't let us play that episode.
Yeah, it's not my proudestmoment.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It is a good episode yeah, we'll play it eventually,
okay.
So, tisha, y'all that are kidsbefore you went to disneyland,
right?
I think that's a very relatable.
That story helped me like.
I thought about it throughoutthe week and I was like, see,
I'm not alone, feeling like I doand do and do and it's too much
, right.
So I thought that was relatable.
It was relatable for me.
Yeah, I felt better.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's just a delicate balance of giving them so much
and then I'm mad at them becausethey're not grateful.
So I don't know the answer, Idon't know.
It's really like I feel likethat's the biggest.
My issue with raising my kidsright now, like what we're
dealing with, is I feel likethey're spoiled, but I'm the one
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that's creating that.
Yeah, so I'm struggling becauseyou know, I'm like how do I
combat that we talked toobviously going on mission trips
.
There's, you know, giving, whichI did.
We gave to a group home in theneighborhood and we, like my
kids, were very involved inpicking out the things and like
they were really excited aboutit.
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So that was like nice and I dothink they're giving.
They're just ungrateful forthemselves, if that makes sense.
Yeah, like they're very giving,but they're just kind of like I
don't know, it's just ugh.
Yeah, so we took him toDisneyland because, you know,
spoiled no, spoiled, no.
But we I've been wanting totake Fox because he's taller now
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he couldn't go on the rides,little buddy, before.
Now he's tall enough to go andthat was mostly the reason I
wanted to go.
So we went and it was fun, butit didn't feel Christmassy, like
especially being gone.
You know all the things you doleading up to Christmas, like
the hot chocolate and theChristmas movies and going to
look at lights.
We didn't do any of that thisyear and it was kind of weird
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and it felt like it came reallyfast and I don't know it.
Just I didn't have the sameChristmas vibe and I feel like
it wasn't like we went to church, but we went to church in Texas
, we didn't go to our normalchurch and I do feel like
normally at Christmas, I'm veryaware of, like, the reason we're
celebrating the birth of Jesusand I feel like it was more
about presence and, yeah, itwasn't as like about that this
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year I feel the same, which isfunny because I was home this
year, oh really, yeah, and Istill felt like it wasn't about
the right things too, really,and I was trying to combat it.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I I had the weirdest couple days.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Tisha was out of town , yeah, and Anytime I leave and
she has like a it was real Likea struggle.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
It's like I'm always gone.
Yeah, it was bad and I like,last time you went, I was like
I'm okay.
This time, my brother was gone,my mom was gone, everyone was
gone.
It was weird.
Well, that's why it felt weirdfor you.
Yeah, no, but all the things.
Have you ever just done thethings?
And we're like we're doingthese?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
things, but it's not feeling the things.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah.
So and I don't think Instagramhelps when I was living in the
trailer, we lived.
We lived in a trailer for sixmonths while we built our house
and it was one of my favoritenow memories, but in the time
was one of the hardest thingsyou remember.
Yeah, cause I don't think I hadtold everybody, like Regina,
one of our friends.
She always says you make thingslook easy and I would, and I
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agree, like I don't always tellthe hard to the to everybody,
but I feel like you always get,so I don't think you would say
that, right, you're like.
Yeah, you're like, yeah, Idon't think you make it look
easy.
Yeah, no, you've said it aboutlittle things.
Yeah, but I don't like sharewhen I'm really going through
hard with a lot of people I onlyshare it with, like you, kyle,
jen, or any of you that arelistening, that are my good
(20:48):
friends, you've seen it.
Yeah, so I don't always sharethat, but during the trailer, I
had to get off Instagram duringthe holidays because we had a
little tree like four foot noteven like three foot on our
table outside and it keptfalling down because we couldn't
put a tree in the trailer andall the traditions.
It was COVID, and it was likewe couldn't watch a movie in the
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trailer, right, we couldn'tlike do any Christmas activities
.
So I had to get off Instagrambecause I was getting so like
bitter seeing everyone haveperfect Christmas that I felt
like so unworthy, like I waslike, oh, I didn't, I didn't go
see Zoo Lights, right, and Ididn't go have family movie
night with hot cocoa and Ididn't.
And I caught myself comparingand it was getting weird.
(21:31):
So I got off Instagram for likeall of December and January and
it was one of my favorite times, yeah, because I noticed I,
when you don't have that on yourphone, which there's so many
weird apps now, like I go towhen I'm bored not weird, that
sounds dark, like.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Instagram.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Tik, tok.
Yeah, I don't gamble on myphone anymore, um, but like you
go to, like there's a lot, andlike you can go on Facebook and
go to shorts, which is its ownother Avenue of self-distraction
that you can stay on.
So I feel like back then it wasjust Instagram, Shorts weren't
a thing, so it wasn't as.
So if I took that off, I hadnothing.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Well, it's hard because I do feel like I am
reluctant to post things onInstagram, but then I also want
the memories for myself.
So it's hard to know, likebecause you don't want to ever
put something in anyone's faceor be like, oh it's perfect
because it's not, but then Idon't want to complain on there
either, because then I seemungrateful.
So it's just really it's weirdit's the same thing, though.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, people are going to have a problem with
their own insecurities come outin other people's Instagram.
Yeah, like people having ahappy Christmas had nothing to
do with me, right, it was themsharing their happy Christmas,
but because my Christmas was sodifferent than theirs, I was
jealous.
Right, it had nothing to dowith me, right, it was them
sharing their happy Christmas,right, but because my Christmas
was so different than theirs, Iwas jealous.
Right, they had nothing to do.
They were allowed to post theirmovie night Mm-hmm.
Do you know what I'm saying?
So I think sometimes it'speople's own insecurities, and
(22:47):
so, whether you post or not ohtotally.
It's their own insecurity Everytime.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
It was the trailer, I think.
Well, I think back to whatyou're saying.
You didn't feel Christmassy toyou.
I feel like sometimes, whenkids get older, I think that's
part of the change too, becausethis year we knew we were
leaving, so we like threw up atree lot our tree last minute
because Fox was begging for it.
Like, if we didn't have Fox, Idon't even think we would put up
a Christmas tree this year,cause we knew we were going out
of town.
We were gone for Thanksgiving.
We were home for two weeks.
You know what I mean.
So it's weird because I feellike when they get older is when
(23:24):
you need to do them the most,but it's kind of when you're
like, oh well, that's not asimportant, I know.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's kind of annoying , though.
All the good stuff I did likewhen they were young they don't
remember.
I had like really goodChristmases when they were young
and we do all this creativestuff.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
so my kids are doing that, Remember we had the
Christmas party with all thekids and we decorate cookies,
remember at like Denny's, yeah,but it's weird.
We don't do any of that now andit's like I feel like it's less
Christmassy.
But maybe it's because of that,but I don't know.
Fox was like my older kids doit for my.
We did that for a year.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Everybody knows and we forget about the elf.
It's ruining their Christmasmore than it's happy.
It's dumb.
I'm not moving.
The elf, tooth fairy's dead,all these things are gone.
Yeah, but my kids kept tellingme it doesn't feel like
Christmas this year.
Yes, really, and it was gettingon my nerves 50 times, but I'm
just tired.
(24:17):
Like by the we ran around allday and then when we'd get home
I'd be like family movie nightand they would want to be alone
and we were together for likefive days like straight, no
friends, no, nothing.
So I'm like this isn't a bigdeal, but what are the things
that make it feel like Christmas?
Because we did go to church.
It wasn't kid-centered, butlike what are the things?
(24:39):
You know what I mean?
I think they're traditions, Idon't know.
So I didn't have a lot offamily traditions growing up.
Natalie, my best friend, whodoes listen in and out and I've
talked about a lot, her dad, tom, who I went to Guatemala with.
He always had like we would goto, we had the Christmas
traditions and I love jumpinginto her family traditions and
she actually her aunt had aChristmas party and that was one
(25:02):
of the reasons why I want tohave a Christmas party with kids
, right, like Santa came, gavegifts.
It was like every year wecouldn't wait for this Christmas
party, right?
But the traditions, I thinksometimes are also what add so
much stress to our plate, right,because I have been like maybe
I was scroogish this year, solike I didn't get all people
(25:23):
gifts Like I normally do.
We normally do wrapping paperfor all of our clients and we
didn't do that this year.
We had a work dinner.
Usually, we do a work Christmasparty that we didn't do this
year.
Um, we just went to lunch withthe four of us cause our team is
smaller now and I didn't wantto get gifts.
Everyone's like I'm like don'tget gifts.
And a few people were like we'regoing to get gifts and I
thought I'm not going to get agift just because I have to get
(25:46):
a gift, because everyone else isgetting me gifts and I'm going
to spend money and I'm just notRight.
And I honestly thought thatlunch was amazing, Like when I
was present.
It's like sometimes I feel likewe put all these things on our
plate to check them off, but yetdo we really want to do them?
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like, do we like I coach with abunch of coaches that I love and
I didn't get them gifts, butlike I didn't not that I didn't
(26:09):
want to I just I feel like we goin debt so far at Christmas or
you put so much pressure onyourself to do all these things
that I think sometimes it ruinsthe spirit of Christmas.
But, like for me, I felt verypresent but my kids were missing
it, I don't know.
So as moms, I also feel likemoms really get they get a lot
put on them for Christmas, likeI know you, they do the whole
(26:30):
Christmas.
Yes, my husband's like what didwe get?
Yeah, and Bonnie, mymother-in-law, does an amazing
job and Lance, my father-in-law,did a great job of giving her
credit and she makes it magical.
She does the scavenger hunt.
She's very good at that stuff.
She's amazing and as a mom, Ilike appreciate her more.
I made our kids do a littlescavenger hunt to be like her
this year and she does a greatjob of doing the things and I
(26:53):
think sometimes maybe thosethings make it cool.
Yeah, but moms have to do mostof the shopping which I had.
Kyle, my husband, he's like areally smart money man, you've
heard, but I get in trouble forspending 24 seven.
It's the biggest thing we fightabout, I think, is money, and I
haven't been working as muchbecause, as you know, I was
quitting, so he's had a littlebit more say on my spending.
(27:15):
It's a.
It's been a real joy, yeah, um,so I had him order the
Christmas gifts.
I started this way because whathappens?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
is we'll, just he has no idea what anything costs.
No, he's like out of touch.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
We go to dinner and he's like that was $50.
I'm like welcome to the world.
So I've decided that I'm gonnalet him buy the gifts so that
when he wants to yell about thecredit card, he can yell at
himself.
Yeah, because what happens iswe discuss how much we're
spending, we go over the giftsand then when I buy him, he's
like did you see the credit card?
There's thousands on the creditcard.
And I'm like I know, rememberwhen we talked about getting
those gifts and you said to putthem on the credit card for
(27:49):
points.
And now you're mad.
Yeah, so he bought the gift.
So Tana's like how's it going?
I'm like he's still yellingabout the credit card.
It's like he's it's like magic.
He thinks that like, like,we'll be like okay, we're going
on a trip, we're gonna buyflights, right.
So I'm like do you want me toput it on our credit card, or do
you want me to put it on?
Like, we both have work creditcards, but it's not a work
expense.
He's like no, put it on thepersonal.
(28:09):
And then the next day he'll belike did you see there's a
thousand dollars on the creditcard?
Yeah, and I'm like yeah,remember last night when we said
we're putting it's like it'sthe weirdest thing.
Yeah, he's like it's adisconnect.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
So I'm getting yelled at about the credit card.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So funny.
But moms have so much to do,like they do the wrapping, they
do the shopping, they do thesetup the night before, and I
just think there was a point tothis.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Oh, kyle, I don't remember the point the moms you
said the moms have a lot of momslike Krista our friend was
posting.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
She likes to do it by herself, to make it magical,
and she appreciates that her momdoes this or that.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But I felt more so.
Well, I do feel like I reallywant to make it magical and I
want to get all the best giftsfor the kids and I want to spoil
them.
And I do feel like when they'renot reacting, the way that I'm
like I want this, like reaction,and if I don't get it, I'm like
mad.
Yeah, and I think that is whathappened.
That was what led up to thefight of not feeling like the
(29:06):
kids are grateful is because Ithink, behind the scenes, I was
doing all the Christmas stuffand knowing what was coming, and
we're doing this and we'redoing that, and then my kids
were just like, just acting likeungrateful and I'm like you
don't even know what I'm doingfor you you know, behind the
scenes.
But you can't do that like ifI'm choosing to do that for
myself, like I can't be mad atthem, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I know I was mad.
I forgot my.
I had a whole point to this.
That story doesn't make sense.
I don't know, but we'll find it.
Yeah, but I think that I am thegifts getting.
There was a point the moms.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
You had kyle help.
Yeah, I don't know when thathappened.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I don't know the point, but I think so it's funny
, because your kids called mykids to tell them what they got,
because we did it early, yes,and they were so excited to tell
them what they got like theywere thrilled with their
christmas oh really, yeah, isn'tthat funny it.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, it was like oh, this old thing and I'm all.
That was $500.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
No because my kids are, all you know, like mad that
they didn't get those things,yeah, but they didn't have
Christmas yet.
But the reaction coming thisway was so excited, oh yeah,
because it was like got thephone, Ken, got this and that,
yeah.
And then, like on Christmas Dayit was the second, we got the
(30:20):
Dyson hair wrap, yeah.
Bear got the Oculus yeah, likethey were jacked, yeah.
So I saw the jackedness on thisside.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Oh yeah, because I was like oh well, I guess you
know mom dishes out all thismoney for Christmas.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Should I have gotten the Dyson hair wrap, but no,
well, it was the shark.
But same thing the same.
But the funny thing is I don'tthink it's always those things,
because maybe that's what mykids were missing was the magic
of Christmas.
Like we wrapped all the giftsahead of time and I put them in
bags.
I don't wrap because it takesforever.
Right, so you can buy Christmasbags.
They're amazing and we reusethem.
But we had them all set and thekids are like great mom, you
(30:55):
know, like the bags are here.
But now I'm thinking my kidsMaddie's actually on Instagram
now Hudson's on Snapchat.
Maybe they're comparing toeveryone else Because I'm like
what are they mad at?
We're doing the same things wealways do, right right, that's
maybe what was happening,probably, when you see it's like
the FOMO, yeah Of like everyoneelse is doing.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Better life, the Elf yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Because I was in trouble about the Elf.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Well, I wasn't really on Instagram a lot during the
like I would like post somethingat Disney on my story or
something, but I wasn't likescrolling, yeah, and I feel like
I was way more Present and Ididn't feel like I missed
anything.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, you know I didn't feel as bad.
When you don't see it, youdon't care, but I think it's
important to know everything,like what Tisha and I talked
about a few weeks ago when youwere talking about your trips
and I was talking about myfamily movie night and we had
the epiphany this episode hasn'taired yet that yours isn't as
great as what it looks, right,and mine isn't as great as what
it looks.
I think we just have toremember it's not as great as
(31:58):
what it looks.
No like, even growing up myparents didn't have a lot of
money.
My mom listens now it's reallyfunny because she didn't listen
forever.
So I get calls now.
Why do you say that?
I, you know, yeah, and I'm likeno, but we didn't.
But they did always get us whatwe wanted for Christmas.
They probably totally chargedit or did whatever, and I do
remember that they reallylistened to what we wanted,
right, and I think sometimes wedon't.
It's cute Like Kyle's familywants to do everything like
(32:19):
their mom.
They, like Bonnie would neverknow how much my mother-in-law
she would never know how muchthey want to emulate their
childhood.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
That's so cute.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, I think it's the biggest compliment.
Yeah, but she would never knowlike that.
They really want to doeverything like them.
And I was just listening tosomeone else talk about their
mom and I was like that mom hasno idea.
I got to remember it's one ofour friends that their kids are
trying to do everything likethem.
Yeah, that's so cute and Ithink sometimes you don't see
that for years because I'malways like they don't get it.
But I heard Maddie the otherday.
(32:48):
Oh, I was just telling you Igot her a bunch of clothes and
Maddie didn't ask for a lot,which I was really proud of.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Hudson's Christmas list was no, she like had it in
the car, she's all.
Eh, you know, add, add, add,because her and Ken were
comparing notes.
Ken had one too, hudson's.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Christmas list was long and we used that wish list.
But what's annoying is we wouldclaim it.
So then they knew what weclaimed.
Oh no, so it was stupidHudson's Christmas list.
Hudson falls into my daughter,she's my middle daughter, my
redhead daughter.
She falls into the middle child, for sure, and she likes a sale
, so she totally falls into thissale thing.
(33:25):
On.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Instagram.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So does my daughter, so one day she was bugging me
that her Christmas list was up50% off and I let her order it.
I was like just order it then.
So she spent like $200 on herown Christmas list.
So when it came in, I'm likewhat is this stuff?
She's all.
When she was opening it she'slike I ordered these and I was
like that's so bad, like that welet them order, but but anyways
.
(33:46):
So Maddie returned half of herstuff and I was so upset on
Christmas that like, but I usedto do the same thing to my mom.
My mom still gets the likereally great gifts, mom, she
really does it.
But so we had to go to thestore and return it all and I
had told Maddie like hey, youdon't get ready all the time.
Like I want you to have somegood clothes, so when you want
to get ready, you have them, youhave them.
And so the next day I thoughtoh, that was rude.
(34:07):
I said that you know whenyou're feeling guilty, it's
weird conversations.
Yeah, that.
Later I'm like, oh, maybe Ishouldn't.
She's still my daughter.
Maybe I shouldn't have told herthat, right, or maybe I
shouldn't have said it like that.
So at the store she's like mom,this vest.
You said my style, so I knowshe's like listening to
everything I say and I'm like,but at the same time, everything
(34:30):
I say has so much um power.
Yeah, wait Like, causesometimes when you're upset,
you'll say something like and Idon't mean it.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I'm feeling bad now, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, you don't realize how much weight it has,
you know.
And when I was reading her textmessages, I could hear her
saying what I had told her andI'm like she to me would be like
you're stupid, right?
And then she'd go back and belike yeah, I think we should
like, for instance, say I saidyou guys should all go to see
Elf, and she's like well, that'sstupid, nobody wants to go see
(34:57):
Elf.
And then I could see her in hertext and be like does anyone
want to go see Elf?
That would be a fun Christmasthing.
Yeah, so none of that happened.
But she really does listen towhat I say, even though she acts
like I'm an idiot.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I feel like both my older kids.
I've seen text messages wherethey're listening and I they're
listening.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Now she's snap conversationing everything
because it came out that I readall her text messages.
So now I have no idea what'sgoing on.
Yeah, but I do trust her.
She showed me in reading hertext messages that I can trust
her, so now I'm like trying totrust her more.
Yeah, but anyways, christmas,the magic of Christmas.
Let's sum it up it was good.
I don't know.
I think we all put thoseChristmas pressures on ourselves
(35:36):
, but we had a lot of familytime, which I think will mean
something later.
Yeah, you know all the thingsand my mother-in-law does a
great job yeah.
Yeah, but I didn't do as greatof a job with like I just if I
didn't want to do it, I justdidn't do it, yeah, which was
(35:58):
very in the whole, just didn'tcare.
But Kyle got me Tommy John.
So Dr Laura always talks aboutTommy John on her podcast.
It's pajamas.
It's like they're turning intolike a Lulu, like they just
rebranded and it was real sassyand I'm like I bet you Tommy
John's gonna have an era likeAloe.
Sophia took me to Aloe a fewyears ago and I was like what's
Aloe?
(36:18):
Yeah, and now it's like havingits moment, right, and I feel
like Tommy John's going to havethe moment now, soon, because I
can tell it's trending that way.
Oh my gosh, you guys got to getit.
It's the most comfortablepajamas Really and they're like
(36:42):
cuter and they're expensive.
So I don't buy expensive things, but Kyle bought it for me,
yeah, and it's the best thingEverybody needs to try.
Tommy John yeah, so amazing.
Yeah.
So Kyle got me that, I didn't,I got him.
So do you guys get each othergifts?
So we said not to because Ididn't really want to buy
anything, but he did.
I think he's a little likeshe's a little off her kilter
Like I'm scared yeah, so he gotme Tommy John's stuff and um,
and it was really expensive butI ended up getting him.
It's funny.
I got him a drill that Lancesaid it's like a electric lug
(37:03):
nut remover and this girl showedup at our house last night a
little weird late at night witha flat tire that looked like
someone cut a hole out and I waslike, great, it's from the
TikTok, they're here yeah,they're gonna get, they're gonna
kill us yeah because of thetrending TikTok.
But, um, kyle used it, but westill thought we were getting
killed.
Kyle had his gun and he, like,locked the door while he's
changing the tire.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
And I was like this is where it ends.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, we watched the best show.
Oh my gosh, you don't like.
It's not very dark, it's moresuspenseful.
It's called um oh my gosh, Iforgot the name.
It's on amazon.
It's his last name.
I gotta look it up.
It's the best show.
The guy is like weirdlyattractive, um, and he's like a
cop and his wife dies and um, Igotta find the name.
(37:48):
And it's about him trying tofind the killer and it's like a
little killer, darkish I'venever?
yeah, I would have never foundit, is it it old?
No, it's newer.
Kaya his name is, I forget it.
I got to tell you guys, though,because it's a horrible story
without it, but anyways, it's sogood.
What else are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Oh, the gifts.
Yeah, ben, we don't really dogifts but I like if I see
something, I'll get it for him.
Person and I Jen, who I love wealways dress similar and she
always has the best style.
She had this really cute purse.
So I was like send me the purse.
Well, it was like kind ofexpensive, so it wasn't
(38:28):
something I'd like buy myself,but I was like, oh, I would want
this for Christmas.
So I sent it to Ben.
I never tell him I wantsomething, ever.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Did he get it?
No and it drives me nuts.
I almost called him and toldhim like, because this has
happened before Every time, whatdid he buy you?
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Weird stuff?
No, nothing.
Oh, did you buy him stuff?
I got him a shirt, oh so, butit's like we didn't do gifts but
I sent you the purse, but Isent you the purse.
So I clearly want the purse,and it's so annoying because I
feel like I've sent him.
We've gone through so manythings he's gotten me, I got to
call him, I almost called him.
It's like I don't know, he'sthe most thoughtful person he is
, but he misses that stuff buthe misses the gifts, so I've
(39:08):
never seen someone misssomething more.
I've literally like given thingson this list, use them for
anniversaries, birthdays,doesn't ever access the list, so
I don't even make it anymore,and then he'll buy weird things.
I don't want the weird thingsand he'll spend a lot of money
on them.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
And it's like I don't want that.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, I do that, and then he's mad when I don't like
it.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
He's like you're returning and I'm like, well,
yeah, I didn't ask for that.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
But, like all the 50 things I asked for, you didn't
get.
It's the weirdest thing, okayso.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I'm Ben so.
Kyle will tell me exactly whathe wants to, and I don't like
buying it because I feel likethere's nothing to it.
It's not thoughtful.
I just bought what you sent me.
But it's thoughtful to buy whatI want.
So Kyle's family does the list.
The kids make a list.
They buy everything on theirlist.
Yes, kyle's family mom said shewants size 7 Nikes blue.
(39:59):
I'm like there's no fun in this.
Aren't we supposed to think ofsomething she would like and get
it for her?
Yeah, but then when?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
she doesn't like it, it's just.
It misses the mark.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Oh see, I think the point is and Maddie had this,
maddie's like mom, I usuallylike what you get, so just get
me some things.
Well, now she wants to go buy acurling iron and we turned all
the clothes and I'm like maybethat didn't work.
Just send me the list, causeHudson, I just bought the list
and then she was probably happy.
But for me, our family, wealways like my sister-in-law,
allie.
She buys things you never evenknew you wanted and it's
everything.
Yeah, like she's so creativewith the.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
So I think Ben just tries to like I don't think ever
when I'm, like I didn't know Iwanted this and I'm so excited
for it.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Maybe very rare.
Yeah, Kyle too.
So now I just buy what Kylesends.
He sent me shoes.
I ordered the shoes.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
So I'm so annoyed because now I still want the
dang purse.
Just order it yourself.
I know it's so annoying, butit's like I don't want the Tommy
John that's what I mean Becausethey were expensive.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, guys, the show name is Cross.
Kyle just texted me Cross Cross.
It's so good, tyler, really sogood.
Yeah, yeah, we watched it in aday.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
But no, I love him to death.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
He's literally the most thoughtful guy Like, and
Kyle's like really good withholidays.
Yeah, Kyle is really good.
I'm always jealous of you.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
You're always getting all these good holiday stuff.
Yeah, he's really good withlike birthdays.
It's Mother's Day Sunday, LikeI want handmade things from the
kids, Like it's so what.
But then he makes my coffeeevery single day.
Yeah, when, like Kyle is neverdoing.
I just showed him this weekendabout Like he gets my gas.
He fills my water bottle.
He filled my water bottle today.
Kyle is like you're on your own.
(41:38):
Yeah, everyday thoughtfulnessand then gifts.
I'm all.
Huh, you know, I see onInstagram everyone had a great
Mother's Day.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I'm all hmm, that's so funny because Kyle is the
opposite, but he gets in troublefor Ben all the time.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
I'm all if Tisha wants to do some convincing,
some things you know, kyledoesn't care about that that
much, probably because it's likea free for all at your house.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Legs up you know If I was like you'll get.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
He's like I can get that anyways.
Oh, when we were in Houston,fox had a birthday and Ben
wanted to drop him off.
I'm like you can't drop him off.
He's a kindergartner, like what?
If he has to poop he's gonnaask the mom at the birthday to
wipe his butt.
Like kindergarten, the parentsstill go to the birthday.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
You make friends I feel, like it's like third grade
ish yeah, even second grade,first grade, even third, fourth,
you can drop off no, you can'tdrop off in kinder.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
So I'm like you know you have to go to the birthday.
And and he's like I am notgoing to this birthday.
And I was like, yeah, I'll makeit worth your while you know.
So then he's like, okay, I'llgo to the birthday.
And then at the birthday he'slike this is awful, I'm never
doing this again, unless you'reoffering really crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Did you make it worth his while?
I know he falls for it everytime Like what is making it
worth your while mean?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I don't know Like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
No, like really, Is it still Mishies?
No, so Tisha really likesMishies.
The IES Does everyone knowabout?
Speaker 2 (43:06):
the IES yeah, everyone knows Trust me.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Kara was re-listening to episode one to see where I
offended someone and she's likewe're on the IESs right now.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Like right now, like it's so old school, like we have
new listeners, we gotta tellyeah, we told season one, first
episode, so.
But tisha likes to stick withthe same position.
Normally you've got true.
It's like why mess with thegood thing if it's?
Speaker 1 (43:28):
not broke.
Don't fix it, you know, but Ifeel like you're more
adventurous these days.
No, so we're still mishies, sois making it worth your while
like a position too?
Speaker 2 (43:36):
it's like, yeah, maybe some other things oh, like
the yes foreplay yes oh, but Ithought you don't do that.
Well, that's what I was makingit worth his while.
Oh, it's like a few minutes.
Sometimes we do the closet alot, so that's.
My kids would die if theylisten to this, yeah they're
it's mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, I think it's.
My mom was so healthy about sex.
She made it clear that theyloved it.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
No, they know we do it a lot.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, I think it's great and it's great to know.
I always want to know mom, didyou do?
I'll ask her.
And she's like dad didn't likethat.
Yeah, I'm like, oh okay, yeah,how'd you keep?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
it, so just gonna what's the crazy?
So kyle doesn't care about that, because it's just like a
normal tuesday.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Yeah, it's all like there's, there's the session, so
how do you?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
all the things.
How do you get him to do thethings that you want?
That's why I'm having a hardtime.
I know I'm like you need todial it back so you have a
little leverage.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Well, I like all the things so much leverage, oh like
I wanted to go to new york.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
So last Crystal canceled our annual ski trip
last minute because her dad hadpassed away.
So she was going with herfamily and we didn't want to go
skiing without them because Ihate skiing so I'd be sitting by
myself in the room.
So I was like let's go to NewYork and watch the ball drop.
And Ben was like no, I am notgoing there.
And I was like we can do itPress up against the glass, like
overlooking the city.
(44:55):
And then he was like everynight.
And I was like every night.
And so Did you do that?
We didn't do it, pressed upagainst the glass, but we did it
every night.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Oh, pressed up against the glass is Kyle's
favorite, I know.
See, that's happening, that'swhat I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Like that's happening on a normal day, like like yeah
of you and he's all huh, yeah,no, I'm never doing that ever
yeah, it's got to be special, Iknow, but okay, maybe that's my
problem because I can't use that.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
He'd be like okay, yeah, you will yeah no, I use it
all the time.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
It's like my greatest power.
I know I don't like it,whatever I want.
If I told you that's why mygirls, you don't get it.
You have so much power.
It's like, yeah, it wouldn't,even I can't.
I'll give whatever I want.
If I told you that's why I'mlike girls, you don't get it.
You have so much power.
It's like, yeah, it wouldn't,even I can't even imagine You'd
be like, okay, oh yeah, anything.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
I'm like, hey, can you get this?
And he's like, okay, you knowall the time.
All right, well, until nexttime.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Welcome to Jerking Around a podcast that makes you
feel better about yourself,because we're a mess just like
you and Crystal makes fun of meall the time and it's great, and
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it's real.
Welcome to Jerking Around, a podcast that makes you
feel better about yourself,because we're a mess just like
you and Crystal makes fun of meall the time and it's great and
it's real.
Welcome to Jerking Around.
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Today we talk about how muchtrouble we get in for this
podcast and we break downChristmas and being a healthy
giver in the bedroom.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh, we didn't talk about UFOs.
We'll talk about that next time.
Listen along, welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Jerking Around.
So there's so much to talkabout today because we skipped a
week, because Tisha went on atraveling ban again Stop, not
ban, that's the wrong word.
But she went to Disneyland andto see family.
So we missed last week, whichwas fine.
Tyler and I were very sick, butTyler doesn't stop working.
He worked the whole time.
Yeah, but we got in a lot oftrouble while we were gone.
(01:02):
We had our first TikTok goviral, which is pretty exciting.
Yeah, but Tisha was in thefetal position the whole time.
Yeah, I don't think it wasexciting.
Tisha hated it.
I loved it.
If you guys saw it was aboutJustin.
Bieber and P Diddy's allegedstory.
But what's so interesting aboutthat is, I feel like Tisha and
(01:24):
I have obviously been conspiracyor truth people.
Um, a lot of our friends sayit's conspiracy.
We don't think so, but I mean,some stuff is like we, we didn't
think the election would golike it did and, um, I've gone
too far many times where Ibelieve all of it sometimes, um,
but I've been watching peoplefor years and I feel like when
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you get censored, you've made itand our video got taken off of
TikTok all by itself like we hadno say in it.
So the alleged thing that wetalked about and you have to
listen because, uh, I don'tthink Tisha will.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Let me say it again, right, the alleged thing is
between what episode?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
was that on?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
two times times ago.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Right, Justin Bieber and P Diddy's sons.
The alleged story AllegedAlleged being the keyword, but
why would TikTok take it down?
There's so much garbage onTikTok, why would they have
taken it down?
If it's not, maybe true?
That's where I'm at Well whathappened?
We're getting my husband's likestop talking, I don't want
people at the house I know like,and the people are so mean on
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the comments.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
They they were calling me old and all these
things and then they were sayingI was gonna get sued by Justin
Bieber and like I lost sleepover these comments be told we
love Justin Bieber.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
He's like one of my favorite people ever and all I
was saying.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It was literally a two second clip of our whole
podcast.
I said I saw online that one ofthe lawsuits against Diddy she
was alleging that this happenedand it went viral and it was
like I mean, I've never it mademe feel bad, though, for
celebrities.
You know, like when celebritiesare like oh, they're the mean
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comments online, I'm always likelike Kylie Jenner's, like oh,
the mean comments.
I'm like, oh my gosh, who cares?
Like the mean comments youreally do.
Now I understand the commentsare so mean and like it's so
upsetting and then thinking Iwas gonna get sued, I was so
stressed out so maybe we need tohave like a disclaimer.
This is just stuff we've heardand read and seen and this is
(03:21):
not factual until it's proven.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think the fact that it got taken down is factual.
But until it's proven, I thinkthe fact that it got taken down
is factual.
But Tisha's more worried than Iam.
Maybe I should be more worried.
I just think I didn't know Ishould have spit out my gum.
I didn't know all this stuffbefore you and I feel like it's
also our job to.
It's not about like, obviously,in that story, but I do think
people need to know more thatthis stuff is out there and the
(03:45):
only way they find out is bytalking about it.
I'm not saying everything'strue, but I'm saying think about
it.
Like when you start thinkingabout all of it, like I don't
even want to go into Oprah, butwe're going there.
But Oprah has all these schoolsfor kids and they talk about,
like the kids that are beingtrafficked a lot of times are in
like a system.
That's why, like, their parentsaren't fighting for them.
(04:05):
A lot of foster kids aretrafficked.
It's awful, it's a that's a factand the fact that a few of
these celebrities who supposedlylike, if we go into the wayfair
scandal yeah, so the wayfairscandal was actually pizzagate.
There was like a documentary Iwatched on youtube about the
pizza thing.
And did you hear Diddy talkingabout pizza from jail?
No, wait, for real, oh my gosh.
(04:28):
He's like talking to one of hisguards and he's like you got to
remove the pizza boxes fromjail.
It's like a recorded call andhe's like any unused.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That can't be real, really.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh, okay, diddy, and Justin Bieber.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
No, I'm just saying like why would he be talking?
How does he have a pizza box injail?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
No at his house when he first got arrested.
He's telling them to removeunused pizza boxes.
Oh, that means kids.
Yeah, that are in the tunnels.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
The tunnels is like a whole new thing, though I know
I did see the tunnel.
I saw a tunnel video about aguy who worked at a Starbucks
underneath the tunnel videoabout a guy who worked at a
Starbucks underneath the tunnel.
He was on a podcast and he wassaying he was the barista at a
Starbucks underneath thesetunnels that, like the elites
take to get around the cityfaster.
But then some people said acomment and I felt like it was
(05:18):
actually a really good point.
They were like why would Kobebe driving a helicopter then to
get away with traffic?
But a helicopter is stillfaster than the tunnels.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
True, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, and it was like far sothey probably didn't have.
They were saying they pop upeverywhere like LAX, no we got
it.
Tyler, I don't know about you,but I like playing the clips
when I listen.
I like it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
You used to work at a secret Starbucks.
Is that right?
Is that right?
Yeah, there is a Starbucks thatis like above reserve, like a
Starbucks no one's ever heard ofor been to.
All right, you ever wonderedwhile driving in Los Angeles,
how come you've never seen likeWill Smith stuck in traffic on
the 405?
Yeah, I've never seen a 1%-erjust in their car stuck in
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traffic.
Why is that?
That's because there's a seriesof intricate tunnels underneath
Los Angeles, known as the actorbond.
I'm not kidding, like they getaccess points to move through
the city without ever having tobe in traffic.
You can come up in LAX.
You can pop up at DodgerStadium.
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Underneath there, in thosetunnels, is Starbucks's set up
at different locations to allowthem to get coffees while
they're driving.
All of them they don't pay thereeither you've seen seinfeld
down there?
I know I've seen seinfeld downthere.
Dude, almond milk, latte, twoshots.
(06:39):
Wow, yeah, is he a good tipper?
They don't have to pay, so thishas been.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Crazy.
This is alleged, but it's onanother podcast.
Bill Posey is his name.
It's on his podcast.
This guy had an NDA signed andit expired, so now he's allowed
to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
But then someone was saying NDAs don't expire, you
never know how it's written.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, it could have been your term of while you're
working at Starbucks.
It's not like a normal NDA,it's like a employment NDA, so
it could have been while theywere working at.
These are all alleged things,but it's weird how much the
tunnel topic comes up.
That's my whole thing is like.
When I first heard about theunderground tunnels at people's
houses, I was like okay.
Then when it came up like 10different times, 10 different
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things, I'm like this is kind ofweird.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So we're not saying it's true, we're saying look
into it if you're curious.
Well, there was a girl that waslike allegedly trafficked and
she was saying she was movedthrough the tunnels but then
they were calling her crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So I don't know that's what they called Kanye
when he was trying to speak upabout all these people.
Like it is crazy, mel Gibson,but Mel Gibson, but it's, yeah,
mel, like the people that havedied of pneumonia.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Everybody the hamburger.
What Mel Gibson, when they likemade him crazy because he was
like something with thehamburger.
What did he do with thehamburger?
He was drunk, and so they likereleased this video because he
was talking about all thetrafficking and pedophilia and
then they tried to make him looklike he was drunk.
Now I'm getting scared.
I know I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Okay, anyways, maybe we should cut.
No, we're not cutting.
Tisha woke up this morning.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
We want to cut every episode, everything I'm sick
about it Because I got in alittle trouble this weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You know this life isn't for the week.
Yeah, I've gotten in trouble byfriends and family.
So if you're one of my friendsand family and you secretly
listen, I love you and I loveall of your beliefs and any of
our friends that believedifferently than us.
We love you.
But we're just Tisha and I justthink when we're alone and
we're talking it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So we just want to share what it's like being on
the Well, when you're here, itdoesn't seem like anyone's going
to listen, and then when it'sout there, it's very different.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I listen to our episodes and I don't think
there's anything that wrong.
I think part of my wholepassion project with this thing
is I think there's so muchfakeness in the world that I'm
so sick of the fakeness.
I talked to so many womenbecause I'm a little bit more
outgoing than Tisha, but Italked to people about weird
things and when I talk to peopleI get like really deep really
fast.
And I've talked to so manypeople that are like wait, you
do you go through that, or yourmarriage isn't perfect all the
time, or you get sick of yourkids.
(09:05):
And I think that's what peopleare curious about about old
school reality tv.
Like when the Kardashians firstcame out, it was interesting
that they're like us yeah, youknow.
And like when I used tosubscribe to us weekly, my
favorite section was they'relike us.
We're not celebrities at all,but I think sometimes we're so
open with each other it's theconnecting with people Because
(09:26):
we've been friends for so longthat we don't like we're not
fake to each other and I justwant to share that with other
people.
Like when you tell me about youand Ben's fights, I feel more
normal, right.
And when you tell me that yourfamily time isn't like lolly
doll like it looks on Instagram,right, and you're my best
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friend, right.
I'm like okay, like Kyle and I,this holidays were super weird
for me this year without my dad,and my family was on a cruise
and I didn't see my other family.
It was hard, I think.
Last year we went on a cruiseand we got to escape it.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And it was hard and like one night I was like this
isn't like what it's supposed tobe, like it's supposed to be
like it's supposed to be.
And Kyle's like crystal, myhusband, he's like that's not
real.
Everybody has hard times andeverybody goes through this and
you're like too hard on yourselfbecause I always worry if I'm
enough.
Was my Christmas enough?
Is our family time enough?
Am I working too much?
Am I being a good enough wife?
Like I literally stress aboutbeing enough every day.
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So I just want people to knowall these things are normal and
the things we talk about.
The celebrity gossip is justfun, like it's interesting, we
really talk about some.
we do talk about this all thetime and we don't really.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You don't have to agree or not agree, it's just
interesting and it's like anescape conspiracy podcast, but
we do talk about that stuff, sowe just included it, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, and, like to me , I think those celebrities put
themselves out there.
It's part of the territory.
As the comments that werecoming in, I told Tisha not to
listen, not to read them.
The people that are commentingdon't know us, like who cares
what random people think aboutus, and I do think we're going
to have to get a thicker skin ifwe're going down this path.
Well, that's the thing Ithought.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I had a thick skin.
No, you don't, and then I waslike oh, shoot, I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
No, I know you don't.
That's why I don't want you tolisten, because you worry too
much about what random peoplethink.
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, it was very, oh my gosh, and I didn't.
I honestly in life I don't carewhat people thinks, and I do
feel that way because I don't.
But I've never put myself outthere, so they don't really know
me.
So I know when they thinksomething, I'm like that's
(11:31):
stupid.
But now I'm like I'm puttingmyself out there and I'm getting
called old and mid and allthese crazy things.
I'm like it's awful.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
They were like why do these two have a podcast it you
have a podcast.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
It's stupid, she's crying.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I'm like, no, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Tyler believes in us, our pod daddy.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I was like old.
And we don't care, we're justdoing this.
Honestly.
It feels like a calling yeah,like we're supposed to do it.
Not that we're supposed to talkabout celebrities and this
stuff, but I just like, if I'mgoing to say certain things to
(12:10):
you, I don't want to not saythat in front of other people,
because that's fake and apassion project for me.
As Christians, people judge, um,christians for being one way
and then, in secret, beinganother way, and so, like I was
listening to last week's episodeand it wasn't my favorite
listening to me um, have somedrinks in college and I was
(12:32):
really honest about that.
I felt like an idiot listening.
I'm like, oh my gosh, mycheerleaders are going to know
this and I.
But I'm like, but that's notfair, because that is my story.
I was a Christian that went offthe clear path and that's part
of God's journey for me is thatgrace is where he loves us, in
spite of Right, all the thingsGrace is in spite of.
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If you're going to say, like Ididn't do everything right, but
I still ended up with a greathusband and a great life, and
I'm getting on a soapbox Forthose of you that think maybe
you've made too many mistakesthat you can't get right.
You can get right, like we areboth, so not perfect.
So I am a Christian.
(13:17):
I try to be more like Jesusevery day, but the truth is half
the day I'm doing it wrong.
I am so doing it wrong and I'mtrying to do it right, but I'm
not ashamed of that, becausethat's his job to judge us and
it's his job to love us.
In spite of ourselves and asChristians and of people, I hope
we try to be more, have moregrace with others too.
So those friends and familythat are mad at me right now
maybe have some grace and knowI'm just talking about shows.
(13:38):
It's not offensive to you.
So you know I got in troublefor talking about certain shows
and maybe I offended a certainculture, but I'm not.
I'm not trying to, but we didtalk about these shows.
We talk about them all the time.
So I don't know, this soapboxis a tangent, but it's hard.
I hope that we're beingauthentic to who we really are
and if you don't really like whowe are, don't listen.
A lot of times people's eventsis really more to do with them.
(14:00):
Right, which is funny becauselast week's podcast cause I
asked a few of um, like ourjerkies and friends and family
that listened to every podcastif I offended them with certain
things that I've said and thisand that, and they're like no,
not at all.
You know you got to listen tothe whole episode for it to make
sense.
Um, but last week's episode wasabout don't be easily offended.
(14:21):
It was about that churchservice.
So I was talking to my cousin.
I'm like, was I offensive tothis person?
That person?
She's like.
No, she's like.
And the funniest thing is, lastweek's episode was about don't
be easily offended.
Well, hopefully they listenedto that episode.
Well, and when I re-listened itreminded me I can't live for
what people want.
I have to live created me to dothis podcast with my best
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friend and I mean I'm not sayingwe, we, what we say isn't
always right, we're just beingourselves.
So that's my soapbox.
Moving on, let's talk aboutmore celebrity.
Okay, kim Kardashian, again,she's not my friend, this is not
alleged because the video ofher doing Santa baby is god
awful.
It's very weird.
I just think like I don't wanttheir life.
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I do kind of want theirChristmas Eve party.
Sometimes it looks pretty funlike maybe.
I just think like I don't wanttheir life.
I do kind of want theirChristmas Eve party.
Sometimes it looks pretty funLike, maybe I just want to be
invited, yeah, but I don'tanymore now that I know.
Did they not have it this yearthough, because I didn't see any
?
It's real secret.
So Chloe didn't go, yeah, withthe kids.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Right, but no one posted.
Usually they post everything.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oops, maybe it was in the tunnels, maybe no, but it's
weird, yeah.
But Kim's life, I just feellike it's, I don't.
I feel bad, I feel like she'schasing all those things and I
don't think her family life isas fun as she would want it to
be if she wasn't in thespotlight.
I think there's a lot ofnegative that comes with being
(15:40):
in the spotlight.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Oh, totally.
You know, yeah, the video,though, is really bizarre.
If anyone has seen it it's um,she does a cover of Santa baby,
and Travis Barker produced themusic video, which I was like,
oh, that's kind of disappointing, because I really liked him.
Yeah, but he's an artist.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, like if it wasn't Kim Kardashian, it'd be a
video you'd watch, just becauseyou're like weird, like artists
aren't like, yeah, it was verydark and disturbing, the video.
I didn't watch the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Oh, you didn't.
There's like Jesus is in it,and oh, I didn't see that.
Yeah, it's like I just watchedher crawling on the floor and
stuff.
No, there's like it's likeJesus is in it, but it's like
weird.
There's like a lot of reallyweird dark.
Oh, I didn't watch the wholething Like satanic vibes, it was
just weird.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I don't know, I didn't love it.
Do you see how they dress?
Yeah, but it's weird becausethey talk about God all the time
.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
That's what I was like.
It's very confusing, I don'tthink we'll know what really
goes on.
I was like I would beuncomfortable making that video
because I feel like God would belike look's talk about.
Christmas and how it was youwere out of town.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
How was that?
Was it?
We were out of town last year.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
It was weird it was gone for Christmas and I feel
like the kids.
Well, first we went toDisneyland, and that was before
Christmas, so that was finebecause it is Christmassy there,
but then we can you tell you'renot gonna like this?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
oh no can you tell the story about when you got mad
at everybody and yelled aboutbeing ungrateful?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I, we did.
I told it last week no, youtold it to me in private no, we
covered it here, remember, Isaid, I cried, I said the f-word
oh, oh yeah, but yeah now youdid tell all that and now you
won't let us play that episode.
Yeah, it's not my proudestmoment.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It is a good episode yeah, we'll play it eventually,
okay.
So, tisha, y'all that are kidsbefore you went to disneyland,
right?
I think that's a very relatable.
That story helped me like.
I thought about it throughoutthe week and I was like, see,
I'm not alone, feeling like I doand do and do and it's too much
, right.
So I thought that was relatable.
It was relatable for me.
Yeah, I felt better.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's just a delicate balance of giving them so much
and then I'm mad at them becausethey're not grateful.
So I don't know the answer, Idon't know.
It's really like I feel likethat's the biggest.
My issue with raising my kidsright now, like what we're
dealing with, is I feel likethey're spoiled, but I'm the one
(18:01):
that's creating that.
Yeah, so I'm struggling becauseyou know, I'm like how do I
combat that we talked toobviously going on mission trips
.
There's, you know, giving, whichI did.
We gave to a group home in theneighborhood and we, like my
kids, were very involved inpicking out the things and like
they were really excited aboutit.
(18:21):
So that was like nice and I dothink they're giving.
They're just ungrateful forthemselves, if that makes sense.
Yeah, like they're very giving,but they're just kind of like I
don't know, it's just ugh.
Yeah, so we took him toDisneyland because, you know,
spoiled no, spoiled, no.
But we I've been wanting totake Fox because he's taller now
(18:43):
he couldn't go on the rides,little buddy, before.
Now he's tall enough to go andthat was mostly the reason I
wanted to go.
So we went and it was fun, butit didn't feel Christmassy, like
especially being gone.
You know all the things you doleading up to Christmas, like
the hot chocolate and theChristmas movies and going to
look at lights.
We didn't do any of that thisyear and it was kind of weird
(19:04):
and it felt like it came reallyfast and I don't know it.
Just I didn't have the sameChristmas vibe and I feel like
it wasn't like we went to church, but we went to church in Texas
, we didn't go to our normalchurch and I do feel like
normally at Christmas, I'm veryaware of, like, the reason we're
celebrating the birth of Jesusand I feel like it was more
about presence and, yeah, itwasn't as like about that this
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year I feel the same, which isfunny because I was home this
year, oh really, yeah, and Istill felt like it wasn't about
the right things too, really,and I was trying to combat it.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I I had the weirdest couple days.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Tisha was out of town , yeah, and Anytime I leave and
she has like a it was real Likea struggle.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
It's like I'm always gone.
Yeah, it was bad and I like,last time you went, I was like
I'm okay.
This time, my brother was gone,my mom was gone, everyone was
gone.
It was weird.
Well, that's why it felt weirdfor you.
Yeah, no, but all the things.
Have you ever just done thethings?
And we're like we're doingthese?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
things, but it's not feeling the things.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah.
So and I don't think Instagramhelps when I was living in the
trailer, we lived.
We lived in a trailer for sixmonths while we built our house
and it was one of my favoritenow memories, but in the time
was one of the hardest thingsyou remember.
Yeah, cause I don't think I hadtold everybody, like Regina,
one of our friends.
She always says you make thingslook easy and I would, and I
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agree, like I don't always tellthe hard to the to everybody,
but I feel like you always get,so I don't think you would say
that, right, you're like.
Yeah, you're like, yeah, Idon't think you make it look
easy.
Yeah, no, you've said it aboutlittle things.
Yeah, but I don't like sharewhen I'm really going through
hard with a lot of people I onlyshare it with, like you, kyle,
jen, or any of you that arelistening, that are my good
(20:48):
friends, you've seen it.
Yeah, so I don't always sharethat, but during the trailer, I
had to get off Instagram duringthe holidays because we had a
little tree like four foot noteven like three foot on our
table outside and it keptfalling down because we couldn't
put a tree in the trailer andall the traditions.
It was COVID, and it was likewe couldn't watch a movie in the
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trailer, right, we couldn'tlike do any Christmas activities
.
So I had to get off Instagrambecause I was getting so like
bitter seeing everyone haveperfect Christmas that I felt
like so unworthy, like I waslike, oh, I didn't, I didn't go
see Zoo Lights, right, and Ididn't go have family movie
night with hot cocoa and Ididn't.
And I caught myself comparingand it was getting weird.
(21:31):
So I got off Instagram for likeall of December and January and
it was one of my favorite times, yeah, because I noticed I,
when you don't have that on yourphone, which there's so many
weird apps now, like I go towhen I'm bored not weird, that
sounds dark, like.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Instagram.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Tik, tok.
Yeah, I don't gamble on myphone anymore, um, but like you
go to, like there's a lot, andlike you can go on Facebook and
go to shorts, which is its ownother Avenue of self-distraction
that you can stay on.
So I feel like back then it wasjust Instagram, Shorts weren't
a thing, so it wasn't as.
So if I took that off, I hadnothing.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Well, it's hard because I do feel like I am
reluctant to post things onInstagram, but then I also want
the memories for myself.
So it's hard to know, likebecause you don't want to ever
put something in anyone's faceor be like, oh it's perfect
because it's not, but then Idon't want to complain on there
either, because then I seemungrateful.
So it's just really it's weirdit's the same thing, though.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, people are going to have a problem with
their own insecurities come outin other people's Instagram.
Yeah, like people having ahappy Christmas had nothing to
do with me, right, it was themsharing their happy Christmas,
but because my Christmas was sodifferent than theirs, I was
jealous.
Right, it had nothing to dowith me, right, it was them
sharing their happy Christmas,right, but because my Christmas
was so different than theirs, Iwas jealous.
Right, they had nothing to do.
They were allowed to post theirmovie night Mm-hmm.
Do you know what I'm saying?
So I think sometimes it'speople's own insecurities, and
(22:47):
so, whether you post or not ohtotally.
It's their own insecurity Everytime.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
It was the trailer, I think.
Well, I think back to whatyou're saying.
You didn't feel Christmassy toyou.
I feel like sometimes, whenkids get older, I think that's
part of the change too, becausethis year we knew we were
leaving, so we like threw up atree lot our tree last minute
because Fox was begging for it.
Like, if we didn't have Fox, Idon't even think we would put up
a Christmas tree this year,cause we knew we were going out
of town.
We were gone for Thanksgiving.
We were home for two weeks.
You know what I mean.
So it's weird because I feellike when they get older is when
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you need to do them the most,but it's kind of when you're
like, oh well, that's not asimportant, I know.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's kind of annoying , though.
All the good stuff I did likewhen they were young they don't
remember.
I had like really goodChristmases when they were young
and we do all this creativestuff.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
so my kids are doing that, Remember we had the
Christmas party with all thekids and we decorate cookies,
remember at like Denny's, yeah,but it's weird.
We don't do any of that now andit's like I feel like it's less
Christmassy.
But maybe it's because of that,but I don't know.
Fox was like my older kids doit for my.
We did that for a year.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Everybody knows and we forget about the elf.
It's ruining their Christmasmore than it's happy.
It's dumb.
I'm not moving.
The elf, tooth fairy's dead,all these things are gone.
Yeah, but my kids kept tellingme it doesn't feel like
Christmas this year.
Yes, really, and it was gettingon my nerves 50 times, but I'm
just tired.
(24:17):
Like by the we ran around allday and then when we'd get home
I'd be like family movie nightand they would want to be alone
and we were together for likefive days like straight, no
friends, no, nothing.
So I'm like this isn't a bigdeal, but what are the things
that make it feel like Christmas?
Because we did go to church.
It wasn't kid-centered, butlike what are the things?
(24:39):
You know what I mean?
I think they're traditions, Idon't know.
So I didn't have a lot offamily traditions growing up.
Natalie, my best friend, whodoes listen in and out and I've
talked about a lot, her dad, tom, who I went to Guatemala with.
He always had like we would goto, we had the Christmas
traditions and I love jumpinginto her family traditions and
she actually her aunt had aChristmas party and that was one
(25:02):
of the reasons why I want tohave a Christmas party with kids
, right, like Santa came, gavegifts.
It was like every year wecouldn't wait for this Christmas
party, right?
But the traditions, I thinksometimes are also what add so
much stress to our plate, right,because I have been like maybe
I was scroogish this year, solike I didn't get all people
(25:23):
gifts Like I normally do.
We normally do wrapping paperfor all of our clients and we
didn't do that this year.
We had a work dinner.
Usually, we do a work Christmasparty that we didn't do this
year.
Um, we just went to lunch withthe four of us cause our team is
smaller now and I didn't wantto get gifts.
Everyone's like I'm like don'tget gifts.
And a few people were like we'regoing to get gifts and I
thought I'm not going to get agift just because I have to get
(25:46):
a gift, because everyone else isgetting me gifts and I'm going
to spend money and I'm just notRight.
And I honestly thought thatlunch was amazing, Like when I
was present.
It's like sometimes I feel likewe put all these things on our
plate to check them off, but yetdo we really want to do them?
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like, do we like I coach with abunch of coaches that I love and
I didn't get them gifts, butlike I didn't not that I didn't
(26:09):
want to I just I feel like we goin debt so far at Christmas or
you put so much pressure onyourself to do all these things
that I think sometimes it ruinsthe spirit of Christmas.
But, like for me, I felt verypresent but my kids were missing
it, I don't know.
So as moms, I also feel likemoms really get they get a lot
put on them for Christmas, likeI know you, they do the whole
(26:30):
Christmas.
Yes, my husband's like what didwe get?
Yeah, and Bonnie, mymother-in-law, does an amazing
job and Lance, my father-in-law,did a great job of giving her
credit and she makes it magical.
She does the scavenger hunt.
She's very good at that stuff.
She's amazing and as a mom, Ilike appreciate her more.
I made our kids do a littlescavenger hunt to be like her
this year and she does a greatjob of doing the things and I
(26:53):
think sometimes maybe thosethings make it cool.
Yeah, but moms have to do mostof the shopping which I had.
Kyle, my husband, he's like areally smart money man, you've
heard, but I get in trouble forspending 24 seven.
It's the biggest thing we fightabout, I think, is money, and I
haven't been working as muchbecause, as you know, I was
quitting, so he's had a littlebit more say on my spending.
(27:15):
It's a.
It's been a real joy, yeah, um,so I had him order the
Christmas gifts.
I started this way because whathappens?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
is we'll, just he has no idea what anything costs.
No, he's like out of touch.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
We go to dinner and he's like that was $50.
I'm like welcome to the world.
So I've decided that I'm gonnalet him buy the gifts so that
when he wants to yell about thecredit card, he can yell at
himself.
Yeah, because what happens iswe discuss how much we're
spending, we go over the giftsand then when I buy him, he's
like did you see the credit card?
There's thousands on the creditcard.
And I'm like I know, rememberwhen we talked about getting
those gifts and you said to putthem on the credit card for
(27:49):
points.
And now you're mad.
Yeah, so he bought the gift.
So Tana's like how's it going?
I'm like he's still yellingabout the credit card.
It's like he's it's like magic.
He thinks that like, like,we'll be like okay, we're going
on a trip, we're gonna buyflights, right.
So I'm like do you want me toput it on our credit card, or do
you want me to put it on?
Like, we both have work creditcards, but it's not a work
expense.
He's like no, put it on thepersonal.
(28:09):
And then the next day he'll belike did you see there's a
thousand dollars on the creditcard?
Yeah, and I'm like yeah,remember last night when we said
we're putting it's like it'sthe weirdest thing.
Yeah, he's like it's adisconnect.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
So I'm getting yelled at about the credit card.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So funny.
But moms have so much to do,like they do the wrapping, they
do the shopping, they do thesetup the night before, and I
just think there was a point tothis.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Oh, kyle, I don't remember the point the moms you
said the moms have a lot of momslike Krista our friend was
posting.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
She likes to do it by herself, to make it magical,
and she appreciates that her momdoes this or that.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But I felt more so.
Well, I do feel like I reallywant to make it magical and I
want to get all the best giftsfor the kids and I want to spoil
them.
And I do feel like when they'renot reacting, the way that I'm
like I want this, like reaction,and if I don't get it, I'm like
mad.
Yeah, and I think that is whathappened.
That was what led up to thefight of not feeling like the
(29:06):
kids are grateful is because Ithink, behind the scenes, I was
doing all the Christmas stuffand knowing what was coming, and
we're doing this and we'redoing that, and then my kids
were just like, just acting likeungrateful and I'm like you
don't even know what I'm doingfor you you know, behind the
scenes.
But you can't do that like ifI'm choosing to do that for
myself, like I can't be mad atthem, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I know I was mad.
I forgot my.
I had a whole point to this.
That story doesn't make sense.
I don't know, but we'll find it.
Yeah, but I think that I am thegifts getting.
There was a point the moms.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
You had kyle help.
Yeah, I don't know when thathappened.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I don't know the point, but I think so it's funny
, because your kids called mykids to tell them what they got,
because we did it early, yes,and they were so excited to tell
them what they got like theywere thrilled with their
christmas oh really, yeah, isn'tthat funny it.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, it was like oh, this old thing and I'm all.
That was $500.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
No because my kids are, all you know, like mad that
they didn't get those things,yeah, but they didn't have
Christmas yet.
But the reaction coming thisway was so excited, oh yeah,
because it was like got thephone, Ken, got this and that,
yeah.
And then, like on Christmas Dayit was the second, we got the
(30:20):
Dyson hair wrap, yeah.
Bear got the Oculus yeah, likethey were jacked, yeah.
So I saw the jackedness on thisside.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Oh yeah, because I was like oh well, I guess you
know mom dishes out all thismoney for Christmas.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Should I have gotten the Dyson hair wrap, but no,
well, it was the shark.
But same thing the same.
But the funny thing is I don'tthink it's always those things,
because maybe that's what mykids were missing was the magic
of Christmas.
Like we wrapped all the giftsahead of time and I put them in
bags.
I don't wrap because it takesforever.
Right, so you can buy Christmasbags.
They're amazing and we reusethem.
But we had them all set and thekids are like great mom, you
(30:55):
know, like the bags are here.
But now I'm thinking my kidsMaddie's actually on Instagram
now Hudson's on Snapchat.
Maybe they're comparing toeveryone else Because I'm like
what are they mad at?
We're doing the same things wealways do, right right, that's
maybe what was happening,probably, when you see it's like
the FOMO, yeah Of like everyoneelse is doing.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Better life, the Elf yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Because I was in trouble about the Elf.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Well, I wasn't really on Instagram a lot during the
like I would like post somethingat Disney on my story or
something, but I wasn't likescrolling, yeah, and I feel like
I was way more Present and Ididn't feel like I missed
anything.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, you know I didn't feel as bad.
When you don't see it, youdon't care, but I think it's
important to know everything,like what Tisha and I talked
about a few weeks ago when youwere talking about your trips
and I was talking about myfamily movie night and we had
the epiphany this episode hasn'taired yet that yours isn't as
great as what it looks, right,and mine isn't as great as what
it looks.
I think we just have toremember it's not as great as
(31:58):
what it looks.
No like, even growing up myparents didn't have a lot of
money.
My mom listens now it's reallyfunny because she didn't listen
forever.
So I get calls now.
Why do you say that?
I, you know, yeah, and I'm likeno, but we didn't.
But they did always get us whatwe wanted for Christmas.
They probably totally chargedit or did whatever, and I do
remember that they reallylistened to what we wanted,
right, and I think sometimes wedon't.
It's cute Like Kyle's familywants to do everything like
(32:19):
their mom.
They, like Bonnie would neverknow how much my mother-in-law
she would never know how muchthey want to emulate their
childhood.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
That's so cute.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, I think it's the biggest compliment.
Yeah, but she would never knowlike that.
They really want to doeverything like them.
And I was just listening tosomeone else talk about their
mom and I was like that mom hasno idea.
I got to remember it's one ofour friends that their kids are
trying to do everything likethem.
Yeah, that's so cute and Ithink sometimes you don't see
that for years because I'malways like they don't get it.
But I heard Maddie the otherday.
(32:48):
Oh, I was just telling you Igot her a bunch of clothes and
Maddie didn't ask for a lot,which I was really proud of.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Hudson's Christmas list was no, she like had it in
the car, she's all.
Eh, you know, add, add, add,because her and Ken were
comparing notes.
Ken had one too, hudson's.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Christmas list was long and we used that wish list.
But what's annoying is we wouldclaim it.
So then they knew what weclaimed.
Oh no, so it was stupidHudson's Christmas list.
Hudson falls into my daughter,she's my middle daughter, my
redhead daughter.
She falls into the middle child, for sure, and she likes a sale
, so she totally falls into thissale thing.
(33:25):
On.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Instagram.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So does my daughter, so one day she was bugging me
that her Christmas list was up50% off and I let her order it.
I was like just order it then.
So she spent like $200 on herown Christmas list.
So when it came in, I'm likewhat is this stuff?
She's all.
When she was opening it she'slike I ordered these and I was
like that's so bad, like that welet them order, but but anyways
.
(33:46):
So Maddie returned half of herstuff and I was so upset on
Christmas that like, but I usedto do the same thing to my mom.
My mom still gets the likereally great gifts, mom, she
really does it.
But so we had to go to thestore and return it all and I
had told Maddie like hey, youdon't get ready all the time.
Like I want you to have somegood clothes, so when you want
to get ready, you have them, youhave them.
And so the next day I thoughtoh, that was rude.
(34:07):
I said that you know whenyou're feeling guilty, it's
weird conversations.
Yeah, that.
Later I'm like, oh, maybe Ishouldn't.
She's still my daughter.
Maybe I shouldn't have told herthat, right, or maybe I
shouldn't have said it like that.
So at the store she's like mom,this vest.
You said my style, so I knowshe's like listening to
everything I say and I'm like,but at the same time, everything
(34:30):
I say has so much um power.
Yeah, wait Like, causesometimes when you're upset,
you'll say something like and Idon't mean it.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I'm feeling bad now, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, you don't realize how much weight it has,
you know.
And when I was reading her textmessages, I could hear her
saying what I had told her andI'm like she to me would be like
you're stupid, right?
And then she'd go back and belike yeah, I think we should
like, for instance, say I saidyou guys should all go to see
Elf, and she's like well, that'sstupid, nobody wants to go see
(34:57):
Elf.
And then I could see her in hertext and be like does anyone
want to go see Elf?
That would be a fun Christmasthing.
Yeah, so none of that happened.
But she really does listen towhat I say, even though she acts
like I'm an idiot.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I feel like both my older kids.
I've seen text messages wherethey're listening and I they're
listening.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Now she's snap conversationing everything
because it came out that I readall her text messages.
So now I have no idea what'sgoing on.
Yeah, but I do trust her.
She showed me in reading hertext messages that I can trust
her, so now I'm like trying totrust her more.
Yeah, but anyways, christmas,the magic of Christmas.
Let's sum it up it was good.
I don't know.
I think we all put thoseChristmas pressures on ourselves
(35:36):
, but we had a lot of familytime, which I think will mean
something later.
Yeah, you know all the thingsand my mother-in-law does a
great job yeah.
Yeah, but I didn't do as greatof a job with like I just if I
didn't want to do it, I justdidn't do it, yeah, which was
(35:58):
very in the whole, just didn'tcare.
But Kyle got me Tommy John.
So Dr Laura always talks aboutTommy John on her podcast.
It's pajamas.
It's like they're turning intolike a Lulu, like they just
rebranded and it was real sassyand I'm like I bet you Tommy
John's gonna have an era likeAloe.
Sophia took me to Aloe a fewyears ago and I was like what's
Aloe?
(36:18):
Yeah, and now it's like havingits moment, right, and I feel
like Tommy John's going to havethe moment now, soon, because I
can tell it's trending that way.
Oh my gosh, you guys got to getit.
It's the most comfortablepajamas Really and they're like
(36:42):
cuter and they're expensive.
So I don't buy expensive things, but Kyle bought it for me,
yeah, and it's the best thingEverybody needs to try.
Tommy John yeah, so amazing.
Yeah.
So Kyle got me that, I didn't,I got him.
So do you guys get each othergifts?
So we said not to because Ididn't really want to buy
anything, but he did.
I think he's a little likeshe's a little off her kilter
Like I'm scared yeah, so he gotme Tommy John's stuff and um,
and it was really expensive butI ended up getting him.
It's funny.
I got him a drill that Lancesaid it's like a electric lug
(37:03):
nut remover and this girl showedup at our house last night a
little weird late at night witha flat tire that looked like
someone cut a hole out and I waslike, great, it's from the
TikTok, they're here yeah,they're gonna get, they're gonna
kill us yeah because of thetrending TikTok.
But, um, kyle used it, but westill thought we were getting
killed.
Kyle had his gun and he, like,locked the door while he's
changing the tire.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
And I was like this is where it ends.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, we watched the best show.
Oh my gosh, you don't like.
It's not very dark, it's moresuspenseful.
It's called um oh my gosh, Iforgot the name.
It's on amazon.
It's his last name.
I gotta look it up.
It's the best show.
The guy is like weirdlyattractive, um, and he's like a
cop and his wife dies and um, Igotta find the name.
(37:48):
And it's about him trying tofind the killer and it's like a
little killer, darkish I'venever?
yeah, I would have never foundit, is it it old?
No, it's newer.
Kaya his name is, I forget it.
I got to tell you guys, though,because it's a horrible story
without it, but anyways, it's sogood.
What else are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Oh, the gifts.
Yeah, ben, we don't really dogifts but I like if I see
something, I'll get it for him.
Person and I Jen, who I love wealways dress similar and she
always has the best style.
She had this really cute purse.
So I was like send me the purse.
Well, it was like kind ofexpensive, so it wasn't
(38:28):
something I'd like buy myself,but I was like, oh, I would want
this for Christmas.
So I sent it to Ben.
I never tell him I wantsomething, ever.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Did he get it?
No and it drives me nuts.
I almost called him and toldhim like, because this has
happened before Every time, whatdid he buy you?
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Weird stuff?
No, nothing.
Oh, did you buy him stuff?
I got him a shirt, oh so, butit's like we didn't do gifts but
I sent you the purse, but Isent you the purse.
So I clearly want the purse,and it's so annoying because I
feel like I've sent him.
We've gone through so manythings he's gotten me, I got to
call him, I almost called him.
It's like I don't know, he'sthe most thoughtful person he is
, but he misses that stuff buthe misses the gifts, so I've
(39:08):
never seen someone misssomething more.
I've literally like given thingson this list, use them for
anniversaries, birthdays,doesn't ever access the list, so
I don't even make it anymore,and then he'll buy weird things.
I don't want the weird thingsand he'll spend a lot of money
on them.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
And it's like I don't want that.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, I do that, and then he's mad when I don't like
it.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
He's like you're returning and I'm like, well,
yeah, I didn't ask for that.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
But, like all the 50 things I asked for, you didn't
get.
It's the weirdest thing, okayso.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I'm Ben so.
Kyle will tell me exactly whathe wants to, and I don't like
buying it because I feel likethere's nothing to it.
It's not thoughtful.
I just bought what you sent me.
But it's thoughtful to buy whatI want.
So Kyle's family does the list.
The kids make a list.
They buy everything on theirlist.
Yes, kyle's family mom said shewants size 7 Nikes blue.
(39:59):
I'm like there's no fun in this.
Aren't we supposed to think ofsomething she would like and get
it for her?
Yeah, but then when?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
she doesn't like it, it's just.
It misses the mark.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Oh see, I think the point is and Maddie had this,
maddie's like mom, I usuallylike what you get, so just get
me some things.
Well, now she wants to go buy acurling iron and we turned all
the clothes and I'm like maybethat didn't work.
Just send me the list, causeHudson, I just bought the list
and then she was probably happy.
But for me, our family, wealways like my sister-in-law,
allie.
She buys things you never evenknew you wanted and it's
everything.
Yeah, like she's so creativewith the.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
So I think Ben just tries to like I don't think ever
when I'm, like I didn't know Iwanted this and I'm so excited
for it.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Maybe very rare.
Yeah, Kyle too.
So now I just buy what Kylesends.
He sent me shoes.
I ordered the shoes.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
So I'm so annoyed because now I still want the
dang purse.
Just order it yourself.
I know it's so annoying, butit's like I don't want the Tommy
John that's what I mean Becausethey were expensive.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, guys, the show name is Cross.
Kyle just texted me Cross Cross.
It's so good, tyler, really sogood.
Yeah, yeah, we watched it in aday.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
But no, I love him to death.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
He's literally the most thoughtful guy Like, and
Kyle's like really good withholidays.
Yeah, Kyle is really good.
I'm always jealous of you.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
You're always getting all these good holiday stuff.
Yeah, he's really good withlike birthdays.
It's Mother's Day Sunday, LikeI want handmade things from the
kids, Like it's so what.
But then he makes my coffeeevery single day.
Yeah, when, like Kyle is neverdoing.
I just showed him this weekendabout Like he gets my gas.
He fills my water bottle.
He filled my water bottle today.
Kyle is like you're on your own.
(41:38):
Yeah, everyday thoughtfulnessand then gifts.
I'm all.
Huh, you know, I see onInstagram everyone had a great
Mother's Day.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I'm all hmm, that's so funny because Kyle is the
opposite, but he gets in troublefor Ben all the time.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
I'm all if Tisha wants to do some convincing,
some things you know, kyledoesn't care about that that
much, probably because it's likea free for all at your house.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Legs up you know If I was like you'll get.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
He's like I can get that anyways.
Oh, when we were in Houston,fox had a birthday and Ben
wanted to drop him off.
I'm like you can't drop him off.
He's a kindergartner, like what?
If he has to poop he's gonnaask the mom at the birthday to
wipe his butt.
Like kindergarten, the parentsstill go to the birthday.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
You make friends I feel, like it's like third grade
ish yeah, even second grade,first grade, even third, fourth,
you can drop off no, you can'tdrop off in kinder.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
So I'm like you know you have to go to the birthday.
And and he's like I am notgoing to this birthday.
And I was like, yeah, I'll makeit worth your while you know.
So then he's like, okay, I'llgo to the birthday.
And then at the birthday he'slike this is awful, I'm never
doing this again, unless you'reoffering really crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Did you make it worth his while?
I know he falls for it everytime Like what is making it
worth your while mean?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I don't know Like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
No, like really, Is it still Mishies?
No, so Tisha really likesMishies.
The IES Does everyone knowabout?
Speaker 2 (43:06):
the IES yeah, everyone knows Trust me.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Kara was re-listening to episode one to see where I
offended someone and she's likewe're on the IESs right now.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Like right now, like it's so old school, like we have
new listeners, we gotta tellyeah, we told season one, first
episode, so.
But tisha likes to stick withthe same position.
Normally you've got true.
It's like why mess with thegood thing if it's?
Speaker 1 (43:28):
not broke.
Don't fix it, you know, but Ifeel like you're more
adventurous these days.
No, so we're still mishies, sois making it worth your while
like a position too?
Speaker 2 (43:36):
it's like, yeah, maybe some other things oh, like
the yes foreplay yes oh, but Ithought you don't do that.
Well, that's what I was makingit worth his while.
Oh, it's like a few minutes.
Sometimes we do the closet alot, so that's.
My kids would die if theylisten to this, yeah they're
it's mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, I think it's.
My mom was so healthy about sex.
She made it clear that theyloved it.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
No, they know we do it a lot.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, I think it's great and it's great to know.
I always want to know mom, didyou do?
I'll ask her.
And she's like dad didn't likethat.
Yeah, I'm like, oh okay, yeah,how'd you keep?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
it, so just gonna what's the crazy?
So kyle doesn't care about that, because it's just like a
normal tuesday.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Yeah, it's all like there's, there's the session, so
how do you?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
all the things.
How do you get him to do thethings that you want?
That's why I'm having a hardtime.
I know I'm like you need todial it back so you have a
little leverage.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Well, I like all the things so much leverage, oh like
I wanted to go to new york.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
So last Crystal canceled our annual ski trip
last minute because her dad hadpassed away.
So she was going with herfamily and we didn't want to go
skiing without them because Ihate skiing so I'd be sitting by
myself in the room.
So I was like let's go to NewYork and watch the ball drop.
And Ben was like no, I am notgoing there.
And I was like we can do itPress up against the glass, like
overlooking the city.
(44:55):
And then he was like everynight.
And I was like every night.
And so Did you do that?
We didn't do it, pressed upagainst the glass, but we did it
every night.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Oh, pressed up against the glass is Kyle's
favorite, I know.
See, that's happening, that'swhat I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Like that's happening on a normal day, like like yeah
of you and he's all huh, yeah,no, I'm never doing that ever
yeah, it's got to be special, Iknow, but okay, maybe that's my
problem because I can't use that.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
He'd be like okay, yeah, you will yeah no, I use it
all the time.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
It's like my greatest power.
I know I don't like it,whatever I want.
If I told you that's why mygirls, you don't get it.
You have so much power.
It's like, yeah, it wouldn't,even I can't.
I'll give whatever I want.
If I told you that's why I'mlike girls, you don't get it.
You have so much power.
It's like, yeah, it wouldn't,even I can't even imagine You'd
be like, okay, oh yeah, anything.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
I'm like, hey, can you get this?
And he's like, okay, you knowall the time.
All right, well, until nexttime.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Welcome to Jerking Around a podcast that makes you
feel better about yourself,because we're a mess just like
you and Crystal makes fun of meall the time and it's great, and
(46:19):
it's real.
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