About Pop Music: What’s the big deal with Taylor Swift?

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September 16, 2025 • 61 mins

📣 Help us improve the show by completing the Things People Do survey: https://forms.gle/8YAeybGcZXGdDrJfA Today's guest to Mary Mandefield. She is a radio presenter and music journalist who visited us after waking up at 1am! Despite that, she was still full of energy and helped us to make Joe a bit cooler. We ask what's the big deal with Taylor Swift and Sabrina Carpenter and she shares some of the most iconic moments in pop music history. Find out more about Mary: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/mary.mandefield/ ⁠ To get yourself a brand new Kovered bag, go to Kovered.co.uk to get 15% off with the code JOEMARLER MANUAL are offering Things People Do listeners a discount on their procedure. Say the code JOEMARLER while booking your consultation for 10% off. Book your consultation ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Thriva are on a mission to help you live better, for longer. They are offering Things People Do listeners 20% off your first blood test. Just go to ⁠thriva.co⁠ to sign up, fill out a very quick questionnaire and use the code THINGSPEOPLEDO To watch the show on YouTube, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠watch here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get ad-free and longer episodes on Apple, hit the 'grow the show' button or⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Spotify you can subscribe for £1 a week by clicking⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠this link⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To become an official sponsor, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/thingspeopledo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To grow the show on socials, look for @thingspeoplepod on Instagram, Twitter and TikTok If you'd like to enquire about commercial partnerships with our podcast, email Ryan Bailey ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ryanb@crowdnetwork.co.uk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music courtesy of BMG Production Music Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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