In this deeply reflective episode recorded at Pax8 Beyond 2025, Joey Pinz chats with legal-tech leader, artist, and founder of Cloud Contracts 365, Kim Simmonds. From songwriting at the piano to transforming legal AI for MSPs, Kim opens up about the intersections of creativity, leadership, and transformation.
The conversation begins in melody and moves into mission — how Kim’s self-taught songwriting parallels her bold move to launch an AI-powered legal tool designed just for MSPs. She shares her views on the ethical risks of careless AI use (including lawyers being debarred for citing fake case law), and how her platform avoids hallucinations by not relying on LLMs.
They explore differences between US and UK work culture, the undervaluation of MSP services in England, and why shifting from revenue-chasing to meaningful service is the ultimate mindset upgrade.
🚀 Top 3 Highlights:
- 🎹 Kim’s emotional songwriting process and artistic reinvention
- 📄 Cloud Contracts 365 — AI-powered legal tech for MSPs, built with safety in mind
- 💡 The mindset shift from “exit thinking” to authentic service & joy
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