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August 27, 2025 45 mins

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In this action-packed episode of the Joey Pinz Discipline Conversations podcast, Joey dives deep with Mike Psenka, CEO of Moovila, as they explore how discipline, probability, and automation intersect to revolutionize project management for MSPs. 🎯

Mike shares wild stories of kiteboarding 🪁, the science of risk, and why human error in project timelines is inevitable—but preventable. With a background in mechanical engineering and data science, Mike discusses the real math behind project failure rates, why generic AI tools like ChatGPT struggle with project graph data, and how Moovila’s deterministic platform fills that critical gap.

They also discuss:

  • 🛠️ How MSPs can manage scope creep & protect margins
  • 🧠 Why most project delays aren’t people problems—they’re probability problems
  • 🧮 The odds of a 40-task project finishing on time (spoiler: they’re worse than the sun not rising)
  • 💡 Moovila’s AI-powered “RMM for Projects” approach
  • 🧘‍♂️ The discipline of grit, delayed gratification, and balancing science with instinct in leadership

Whether you're a tech leader, project manager, or just want to hear a brilliant mind talk shop (and surf), this is a can’t-miss episode.



 

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