5/10: We Practically GIVE You the Trivia Answer, The Top 10 Moms that Rock, and Val Talks Serial Killers w/ Alicia Dennis of People Magazine

We Practically GIVE You the Trivia Answer, The Top 10 Moms that Rock, and Val Talks Serial Killers w/ Alicia Dennis of People Magazine

Episode Transcript

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Okay, God, it's side.Poor Danny. Go get a real nice
face, now, don't you.Johnny, Well, actually, I'm Johnny.
That's what Johnny. That's we're gonnatell the boys about. Johnny Doctor
Johnny Fever and I am burning upin here, Johnny. All right,

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what you hear abal singing? Youknow? You know? The weekend's almost
here. Best part of my weeklistening to you sing it. It's Friday.
Go ahead, do it? Thoseliterally are the only words to that
song. I know. I don'teven know how the rest of the song
goes. Honestly, that's the onlywords you really need to know. Yeah,
I'm good with it. I'm goingall right. Welcome Inn on a

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Friday. It's Johnny and Val podcastinglive atop iHeart Mountain. This is the
condensed Supercap podcast from May tenth,the one hundred and thirty first day of
the year. Two hundred and thirtyfive days remain, just two days until
Mother's Day. Got a special Mother'sDay Top ten list coming up later in
the podcast. Seventeen days until MemorialDay, two d and twenty nine days

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to Christmas. Today is clean upyour Room Day? Do you keep a
fairly clean room, keep a fairlyclean house, do you? Yeah?
How about you? Eh? Itry. I try as a guy.
I don't want to be stereotypical,but guys traditionally or not great at it.
And I'm probably better than most guysI would imagine you are, because

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I'm fairly organized. Yes, itwould help if I didn't have a dirty
dog. Oh he's worth it.Oh, totally worth Fantastic Friday. Giving
sharks a voice. Have you everseen a shark in the ocean or in
Myrtle Beach? I saw somebody catchone, but it was a little tiny

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one. Okay, so I went. I went swimming with the sharks in
the in the bear like you weren'tin a cage. No, yeah,
it was. It was you payto do it. And it's nursery shark
And they don't attack. Do theyhave teeth? Yes they do, and
they they generally feed them. Sothey said they won't attack humans because they

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know you're going to feed them.But they sometimes think that, you know,
you know, it's kind of likeif you have like a dog holding
a ball, they'll they get alittle rambunctious. Yes, and that's exactly
so you've got to be very careful. So if you're you know, throwing
out the I don't know what isthe chum chum? Okay, you got
to be very careful because they willthey will nip your fingers. Got you.

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So it was thousands, really thousands? How did you not freak out
if there are that many? Becauseyou know, people do it all the
time, so you know, butit's like being if you're on the beach
and there's a swarm of birds orwhat are they flock? See, I'm
looking for a cool way to die. I want my kids to go.
So how'd your dad pass away?He was eating by sharks, saying he

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was feeding sharks and he got eating. Yeah, that's the way to go.
They thought he was chum. Uh. Military Spouse Appreciation Day, Thank
you because their their services is justas important, exactly. National Lipid Day,
National Liver and Onions Day, whichI didn't realize how much val loves
liver and onions. I love thesmell of it because really the onions,

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oh yeah, you know, friedonions. That smells great, but liver
cooking is I don't mind the taste. The smell is a little over overwhelming.
National Shrimp Day. Now there yougo. National Small Business Day,
Trust Your Intuition Day, World LoopisDay and coming up later in the podcast,
you talked to Alicia Dennis and whois she. She is the editorial

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director for People magazine, and shewas on to talk about a new show
on the ID Network, which ifyou're a true crime fan, this is
right up your ally. This islike serial killer stuff. Yes, okay,
that's coming up later in the podcast. Day number eleven for the roadary
Trivia question coming up after this.So there I was at school. We

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were doing the letter of the Dayon this day was the latter. The
teacher said, Steven, why don'tyou tell the rest of the class something
you're not very good at that beginswith the letter an so I said spelling.

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I'm over forty years old, andI've never used essential oils, which
makes me wonder just how he sentialthey really are. Maybe it should be
called optional oils. I lost myjob as a zookeeper. I didn't really

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think was fair. There were signseverywhere saying do not feed the animals,
so I didn't. Speaking of thezoo, the zoo is wet free on
Sunday from Mom from Yep, that'svery cool. Day eleven for the trivia

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question. Let's get to it.Good morning. Who's this? This is
Letha, Hi Lisa. As ofApril first of this year, there are
one thousand, one hundred and thirtynine people still doing this in the USA.
However, that number is quickly disappearing. What is it? My guess
is be keeper? Not bee Keepers. Oh, for God's sake, my
chances to win these Airsmith tickets aredwiggling. Yeah. The show is not

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till September, so we'll probably yeah, we'll have more. Yeah, yeah,
relax, relax, okay, fourone, two, three, three,
three ninety four five? Oh,which you got? Drive ins?
Not drive ins? It's it's it'sa profession. It's a profession. Okay,
Oh gotcha, Joan, what doyou got for us? I do
listen to the podcast People who Pulla Rickshaw? Wow, it is is

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somebody doing a profession. Of theone thousand, one hundred and thirty nine
people, you could probably name twoor three. Okay, so there there
are some known people amongst this elevenhundred people. Okay, okay, bye
bye bye, three ws. Goodmorning. Who's this? It's Doug the

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bug Guy. Check it in,Doug, the bug guy. How are
we What can I chill for youtoday? I'm sure this is your busy
season, isn't it. Oh we'regetting the hammer schlaughter out here, man,
we're just getting crushed. Everything's comingto life. Yeah, so what
do you got? Yeah? ActuallyI had people stocking shells at Walmart at
night being replaced by red Bunch.Oh really no, uh huh. Of

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the one and thirty nine people,there's a couple of famous people included in
that number. Okay, I appreciateit. Well, have a good weekend,
man, Hey you too, Iappreciate it. Let's take three more.
Is it the number of professional clowns? Sort of? Sort of?

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Don't you don't know how close youreally are without getting it right? Yes?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, let's take two more. Let
me say trying to be an astronaut? No, uh uh, byron?
How are we good? Yeah?Last call I'm going to take today.
Now, do you listen to ourpodcast? I do not? Well,

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yeah you should because we're trying tohelp you out. All right, all
right, So what's your guests?A blacksmith? Yeah, we've had people
say blacksmiths. So yeah, we'llreach a long time have a good weekend,
Bud, take care all right.With those kind of hints, we've
got to get a winner on Monday, right, I would think it's coming

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soon. All right. Let's canI give one more hints? Yeah?
Sure, you may not like anyof this group of people. Love it
all right, we'll take your callson Monday. This Mother's Day, one
day a week. I should beable to pun just closed and have someone
bring food to me. Mama.What happy Mother's Day? All right?

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Mother's Day coming up on Sunday.In case you didn't remember or forgot,
you better or not to now that, Yeah, get on it all right.
So we've got a top ten list. Uh, and it's brought to
you today by West Virginia Tourism.By the way, I got a top
ten list of rock and roll moms, all right, according to Ultimate Classic
Rock dot com. So of allthe moms that are rockers, who do

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you think deserves to be number oneon this list? I would say,
uh, well, they come together. I guess Ann and Nancy Wilson,
they do come together. They tiedat number two. Nice one more to
go. You're not bad, allright? Got another mom in mind,

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Grace Slick of Jefferson, Starship andand Airplane did not make their time up
ten. Oh remember when her daughter, China Cantoner was all over MTV.
Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, like late eighties. Yeah, maybe
other other mom rockers coming to mind. There's a lot of eighties, there's
some seventies. How does Madonna count? Yeah? Didn't it make the list?

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Though? All right, she doesn'trock. I guess I guess she
doesn't. We've got one soul oneFranklin Area. She made the list,
But would you bet the house thatshe's number one? Okay, so let's

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go through the list here. Here'snumber ten, Number nine, got the
down, Number eight Harley Simon.The song is number seven, Belinda Carlile,

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Number six, I Love. Numberfive, Yeah, I'm a huge
Fannel and the Boy. Uh.Number four, Go Makey, Makey,
make You Grassy hind of the Pretenders. Number three, Have we got three?

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And two? Uh huh? Atnumber two and a Nancy Wilson tied
for number two. Yeah, probablyone more to go give me a drumm
roll shine? Yeah? Good?Number one bat Menaton number one on the

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list. Courtesy of Ultimate Classic Rockdot com. Rockings to Mom. All
right, So we're going from momsto serial killers. Are you ready?
What's most important to me? Newsupdates, news updates, I like all
the local news. Joining us nowAlicia Dennis, editorial director for People Magazine,

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here to talk about the new serieson investigation Discovery Network People Magazine investigates
Surviving a Serial Killer. How areyou, Alicia? I'm doing great.
Thanks for having me, Thanks fortalking about this. Yeah, well,
tell us about the show. Thisis a six part series that we have
put together where we are looking atserial killer cases, but specifically individuals who

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survived being attacked by serial killers,survived being kidnapped by them. They come
and talk to us about what thatexperience was like, how they managed to
escape, and in many cases aregoing back to the actual place where this
occurred to them. Oh wow,So this is a very different kind of

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show and that you may know aboutthese serial killers. You may think that
you know everything about these cases,but you have not heard from these survivors
in this way. You're doing sixepisodes, but are there more survivors of
serial killers? It seems like youjust don't hear about them. Yes,

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there are. And it's interesting becauseever since we started with this show,
and we just had the first episodeair on Sunday. We have had additional
people reach out to us, so, you know, impacted by the show
and the survivors telling their stories,that they are also survivors who want to

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share their stories. So there's manymore. We have multiple survivors in some
of these shows talking about their encounterwith that specific killer, and we have
many many other stories we could tellwell if we end up doing more of
these episodes, But I think whathappens is when you say that, people

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don't really hear about that as much. It's very difficult for these survivors to
come forward with these stories. They'refirst of all, incredibly horrifying and scary
and terrible. But then second ofall, I think that sometimes survivors feel
overwhelming guilt that they did something thatmade them be in a situation that they

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became a victim, or you know, that they're guilty that because they didn't
tell their story the right way,that maybe they could have saved someone else's
life, or why did they surviveand other people didn't. There's a lot
of trauma connected to this that isn'tonly you know, the physical trauma,
but the emotional ongoing trauma. Yeah, you covered a lot of the things

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that I was going to ask youabout, like survivor's guilt. I think
for me, I'm completely surprised andamazed that they have the strength to talk
about this and to relive it,basically, that they are sharing that with
millions of people with strangers. Inour show, we try to make it

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incredibly clear when people come forward andthey say that they want to be part
of this, that it's going tobe really, really hard. You know,
your story is going to be sharedin People magazine, It's going to
be on People dot com, it'sgoing to be broadcast. Millions of people
are going to hear it and knowit. Are you sure you're ready for
that? And I am. Ifeel like I can't even imagine what it

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is that they went through. It'sjust so horrible, and the fact that
they have the strength to talk aboutit because they want to try to help
somebody else just is mind blowing me. Can you talk a little bit about
how these women manage to survive?Was it luck, was the crime was
interrupted? Was it convincing arguments thatthese people will allowed them to go free.

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It's such a good question because there'sso many different ways that these women
found that their survival instincts kicked in. And obviously these killers were very different.
You were dealing with different psychosis,different mind games, different power trips

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that these monsters were on, andso what worked in one case would totally
not have worked in a different one. You know, there was there survivors
who pretended to be in love withtheir captor so that this person would trust
them and have them let them bealone so that they could escape. There

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are people that tried to, youknow, figure out ways to escape physically,
people that you know, tried toplay dead. There's all these different
ways that they would search to beable to get and so it's very unique
in each of these cases, Ithink. So you talk about how different

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each of the serial killers is orwas are there similarities or are there things
that these women said, Hey,this stuck out about this guy because they're
not you know, like Ted Bundy. Wasn't he considered to be a very
charming guy. Yeah, he was. And there are some of these cases
like certainly with Rodney Alcala, whowas known as the Dating Game Killer,

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as well as Bruce Lindall, whowas known as the handsome devil. We
also have the Casanova killer, whowas Paul John Knowles. These are people
who, like Ted Bundy, likeyou mentioned, had this charisma, had
this aura about them that people thatencountered them said it was just, you
know, you felt like you knewthem, They felt like your friends,

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They felt like someone you completely wouldtrust and want to be around, and
then in a split second, therewould be this change and all almost as
if this person vanished and there wasa blank face now and the eyes of
a shark with nothing behind them,and you couldn't reach the person who had
been there before, almost you know, this thing where they became a monster

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before your eyes and you had noway of knowing that was about to happen.
So there are those similarities with someof these cases. But then you
have cases like the railroad killer,which we have an episode about. He
was a guy who would just jumpon rail road cars and land in various
cities randomly and attack people that hewould just come upon. He had absolutely

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none of that kind of luring peopleinto his you know aura. He would
just attack people brutally without any anyof that. So there's a lot of
differences in that way. But Ithink the similarities across the board are that
these are monsters who have this horriblegame about power and want to make sure

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that they are controlling people in thisway, and it's very diabolical in that
similarity. Can you just give usreal quick the upcoming episodes? Yes,
so you will see the case ofthe railroad killer next week, as well
as the Casa Nova Killer, whichis a fascinating case. This woman,

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Barbara maybe Able, came home toher house to find a stranger there holding
her sister captive. This guy saidhe was going to kidnap her son,
and she convinced him to take herinstead, and so she tells the story
of how she got away, aswell as the Bishop's Basement, which is
about a guy who ran a churchout of his house and he was doing

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some really awful, secret, crazythings and a survivors of him, I
remember when that happened, because thatwas a mid to late eighties that happened.
That's exactly right, and it's reallyone of those cases that I think
that Silence of the Lambs and BuffaloBill character were built on. You know,

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it's really really creepy and scary.And then we also at the end
of the series, have a lookat the Cook brothers, which were serial
killers who were siblings, and that'sincredibly rare, that very seldom happened.
And the victim in that case,Cheryl Bartlett, fan has this story to

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tell about how when she was kidnappedby the first brother, she is trying
to figure out how to get away, and then the second brother walks in
and she thinks, oh, I'msaved. Someone's come in now and someone's
going to save me. And itturns out that no, this person is
involved in the crime, and it'sjust really chilling. People Magazine investigates Surviving

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a Serial Killer on the ID Networkand streaming on Max at air Sunday nights
at nine pm. Alicia Dennis,editorial director for People Magazine, Thank you
so much for joining us today,Alicia, looking forward to seeing the rest
of the shows. Thank you somuch. Can you imagine confronting a serial
killer? Oh? Good lord,I mean I guess you wouldn't know.
Yeah, just imagine that, youknow, it would just be one of

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the odds of maybe at some pointyou were face to face to a like
a like a killer. Yeah.They say there are twenty five to thirty
serial killers operating in the United States. That's that's that's a comforting statistic.
Thank you, beal, all right, thank you for that. I guess

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all right, we'll catch you backon Monday. We're going to bring back
the who Sings It jingle thing?Oh great, so we didn't do didn't
have time for it today, theKennel Ration song, plus day number twelve
for the Rodroy trivia question I got. I got a feeling we're going to
get a winner. It's close,right, Yeah, we're narrowing it down.
Yeah, huh, people are gettingreally close. We have tickets for

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a Heart to give away, moretickets for Aerosmith. We also have planning
chances for you to win cash withone thousand dollars pay day. So that's
all up. On Monday, moms, have a wonderful day. I hope
you get everything that you deserve onSunday, peace and quiet or maybe gathering
of family, whatever you want.I hope you get what you what you

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want. So all right, thanksfor listening. We'll catch you back on
Monday at five am. That's itfor us. A sans guys, guys,