December 15, 2024 • 46 mins
Energy leadership coach Daniela (@daniela_dragomir_coach), originally from Romania, joins us for an intriguing conversation about the profound impact of human design on personal and professional life. Discover how her skepticism during the COVID-19 pandemic transformed into a passion that reshaped her career and personal journey. Daniela's insights as a 4/6 splenic authority projector highlight the surprising power of waiting for invitations and how embracing this strategy can lead to fulfillment, especially when transitioning from a high-paced corporate environment to a more authentic path.
Explore the challenges and revelations of understanding personal energy types within family dynamics. Daniela shares her experience navigating the pressures of living as a "generator" and the societal expectations of constant productivity, which often lead to burnout. Her journey emphasizes the need to honor unique rhythms and individual decision-making processes, particularly when distinguishing between splenic and emotional authority. These insights provide a roadmap for aligning life choices with deeper truths and fostering healthier relationships by respecting diverse energy types.
We also delve into the nuances of defined and undefined centers in human design and their impact on interpersonal relationships. Daniela offers personal anecdotes that underscore the importance of recognizing personal versus external emotions, an awareness that fosters a more peaceful environment. Embrace the wisdom of trusting your instincts and the body’s signals, as we discuss the significance of staying connected to one's truth. Whether you're a coach or in the healing professions, this episode promises valuable insights into aligning with your authentic self. Tune in and connect with us further through our website or social media platforms.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome back to the podcast Journey to Well.
So today is one of my favoriterecording days because I get to
speak to some of my clients andwe just get to talk about human
design, which is always myfavorite thing to talk about.
So today we have Daniela on thepodcast.
(00:24):
She and I met I don't knowmaybe a year ago or so I can't
remember when you joined, but wemet through a networking group
that I'm a part of.
That's based out of HudsonCounty over in New Jersey, and
she really was interested inlearning about human design.
(00:44):
She's oh, let's bring up yourhuman design.
So we get that out of the way.
She's a 4'6 splenic authorityprojector, so I always love
chatting with projectors andhearing their aha moments when
they learn that they'reprojectors and learn their
energy type.
So maybe we'll talk about that.
But anyway, let me introduce,let me let you introduce
(01:08):
yourself, daniela.
Thank you so much for coming onthe podcast.
It's so great to have you.
Nothing specific that you haveto say to introduce yourself,
just share a little bit aboutwho you are you are, um, hannah,
(01:30):
thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm so happy to talk about the, my two favorite
subjects, my business and myself, so I'm uh, thank you for the
invitation and since I met you,I felt a connection with you.
We have this interest in commonin human development and energy
.
So I am an?
Um, an energy leadership coach,and um, I look at how energy
(01:56):
impacts people.
I'm originally from romania, ifyou want a little bit of a
background.
I worked in the corporate worldand I um, I was, I felt I was
on this quest of understanding,uh, humans and the human mind
and the human behavior, if youwant my whole life and um, right
(02:20):
now I am a coach and I finallyfeel okay, I am doing what was
my passion throughout my life.
So, as an energy leadershipcoach interested in energy, I
think we have infinite energyall time within us and I look at
(02:43):
it as a funnel.
At the top we have thisexpansive energy always
available to us creative energy,compassionate energy um,
everything flows and then,because of our beliefs, of our
experiences, we constrict thisenergy and we go down into the
(03:04):
funnel.
So, uh, that is what I do in mybusiness I try to make people
have access, help people haveaccess to more energy in their
lives and um.
When I heard about human design,it was right up in my alley,
because human design has to dowith energy, as well and I got
(03:28):
excited about it, uh, of course,and I wanted to learn more
about it because, um, I realizedhuman design gives you a
blueprint of how this energymanifests.
So once you do your human designchart, we, you actually have a
blueprint how to access more ofthat energy at the top of the
(03:50):
funnel easier.
Uh, it is my belief that we areall a fractal um of the source
of god, imperfect as we are, butwe are perfect in our
imperfection um, and because weare perfect, although we are not
(04:15):
the one, we are not the source,but we are perfect in whatever
we are given to experience, uh,we.
That's why it's our normalstate to have access to uh the
full, uh joy in life, but forsome reason, we, we constrict
ourselves to to experience joyand um the and happiness and
(04:41):
fulfillment all the time.
And then human design comesalong and shows us how to, why
we don't have, let's say, accessto that expansive energy all
the time yeah, yeah, humandesign.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I love how you said like it is a, it's a blueprint
of of our unique energy and howwe can move through the, move
through our world and movethrough our days.
So, thank you, that was areally beautiful introduction of
of your business and yourconnection of your business and
(05:21):
human design.
So I'm curious.
I let's just start at thebeginning.
I'm curious.
I remember our firstconversations we had of you kind
of being like what is humandesign, what's it all about?
I'm curious what interested youin learning more about human
design and what, maybe, if yourecall when you started
(05:47):
researching or when you and Ihad conversation about human
design, what piqued yourinterest in?
Oh, this is something Idefinitely want to learn more
about.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I came in contact with human design during COVID,
when everybody was doing, youknow, readings for free, was
doing stuff online.
And but back then I felt it wassomething that somebody was
telling a lot of truth aboutmyself, but somehow, like trying
to predict my, I was looking atit still from an astrological
(06:22):
point of view, so maybe I wasn'tready to uh, really, uh, for
this, to absorb this information.
And um, now, with this, uh,going through the leadership
energy, leadership coachingprogram and hearing you talk
about this, I was, no, this isup my alley.
Let me look at it and Irealized it wasn't.
(06:45):
When you did the presentationin our networking group, I
realized it was not a predictionof the future, but it was a
blueprint, as I said before, ofhow we can function more free in
our day-to-day life and moreoptimal, let's say.
(07:07):
And then I started researching,and then I asked you to do my
chart, to get even moreinformation, to get your
perspective and, of course, as aprojector.
The surprise and the breakingnews, as you put it, was that my
strategy and authority weretotally different than I was
(07:32):
conditioned up until now, likebecause my strategy is to wait
to be um invited and, comingfrom the corporate world, I
worked at two um big uh, two ofthe big four consulting
(07:53):
companies and, uh, it was allabout you go, you initiate you
make it happen and um, thatactually created resistance and
I didn.
I wasn't aware of that and Ifelt it.
I was going against the grain.
I felt it.
I was inauthentic when I wasdoing that, but I believed
(08:18):
that's what I needed to do to besuccessful.
Why can't I do more of that besuccessful?
Why can't I do more of that?
I felt a bit of blame and shamethat I couldn't be the person
making things happen, going outthere and pushing and yeah,
talking about myself.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
So that was the breaking news for me as being a
projector yeah, really honestly,when we talk about strategies
like you are referring to, eachenergy type has its own strategy
.
The only strategy that reallyis in alignment, if we're like
(08:58):
going out and initiating things,is a manifestor, and
manifestors only make up 9% ofthe population, so I would
assume that a lot of peopleresonate with hearing that of.
It feels like I'm going againstthe grain, trying to go out and
initiate and go after things,and especially as a projector,
(09:20):
depending on how many undefinedcenters you have, which you
could have just a few definedcenters if you're a generator or
manifesting generator too.
But depending on how manyundefined centers you have,
regardless of your energy type,you might need a little bit more
rest and projectors in general.
What I was starting to say wasprojectors in general tend to
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benefit from recharging theirbattery throughout the day,
whereas generators, manifestinggenerators again, depending on
your defined centers we mighthave a little bit more ease in
kind of just using that likeEnergizer Bunny battery
throughout the day and depletingthat, whereas projectors have
(10:05):
like just a smaller battery.
So we kind of wear down thatbattery, take a rest, get out of
other people's energy types,energy fields, and then recharge
and then continue on our dayand especially living and
working.
Well, living near New York,right where the energy is always
high, and then working incorporate.
That's the complete opposite ofhow we're conditioned to
(10:32):
perform.
We're conditioned to always begoing, to always be working, to
always be initiating things, andit really is a complete,
complete, different perspectiveof let me.
Let me sit back and notice theinvitations that I get, because
I think I don't know if you andI had this conversation I assume
(10:54):
we did but the whole like waitfor something always trips
people up, like even evenmanagens and generators.
With the wait to respond, waitfor an invitation, we're like
are we just supposed to sit onour bums and like twiddle our
fingers and just wait for peopleto come into our lives and
invite us to like, I don't know,invite us, oh, I want to work
(11:16):
with you.
Or like, invite us to our nextevent or our next presentation.
Not necessarily.
It's not that we're waiting,like not doing anything or in
action.
It's truly an invitation tonotice where the invites are
coming from, where people arewanting more of your wisdom and
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more of your guidance as aprojector and then taking that
and running with it.
So it's more like I always sayit's a pause, especially with
Manny Jens, because we just moveso fast.
But, um, but with withprojectors, with all energy
types besides manifestors, it'sa pause.
(12:01):
Let me pause and look aroundand see the invitations that are
coming to me.
Yeah, does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yes, it does so.
A couple of observations thatwere coming into my mind while
you're talking, so.
I realized because I believedall my life I had to go, go, go
and um and Um.
So I realized I was in my jobs,I could go for about three
(12:40):
years and then I'll burn outbecause I was um, acting as a
generator and after three yearsof doing that I would just hit a
wall.
And that happened also with mydaughter.
I behaved like a generator mom.
(13:01):
I was doing everything, I wasbeing everything Because I
started following on socialmedia recently a human design
expert I forgot her name who isspecialized in children, and she
was talking about the generatormom and I was like my god, I
(13:23):
was that mom.
And when my daughter turnedthree, I experienced, I realized
it happened the same whathappened with my corporate jobs
after three years I hit thatwall.
I I just fell apart.
I didn't know, I didn't havethe energy, I just didn't know
(13:43):
what to do, and it took me abouttwo years to to find my balance
.
I felt guilt.
I wasn't the mom that I wantedto be where I was supposed to be
, and it took me two years toprocess that and to come to
terms, up until she was aboutfive.
(14:04):
I felt like I was failing, butI couldn't go on in the same way
.
So I realize now, looking back,it was me trying to be a
generator and my husband is agenerator.
So, and probably every mydaughter is a generator and
probably my mom, I think she wasa generator.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I was just going to say that I bet your parents at
least one parent was a generatortoo.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I think my mom was a generator.
My dad, I think he was aprojector, but he was trying to
be a generator and I think hefelt he failed and wanted to
push me to be a generator.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So, and this created a lot of friction in my life and
a lot of guilt and feelings offailure oh, why can't I, you
know, go on?
After three years, it was clearfor me I'll hit that wall.
It was time to stop, make achange, and I always thought if
(15:10):
I change jobs or, you know,change something on the outside,
it will be okay, and also, ifyou look at, because of so this
is coming from my generator, myprojector how I mismanage my
energy.
but, being a six line, I need.
(15:33):
In the first part of my life Ineeded to experiment a lot in
order to try things and to findout for myself, because the
first part, up until 30, of thesix lines, behave like a three
line, as you know, know, I don'thave to tell you, but no, thank
(15:57):
you for sharing for thelisteners, because they don't
know, maybe yeah, for whoever islistening.
And um, no wonder I changed twocountries.
Uh, my CV looks pretty diverseand I always felt, like, why,
like, why can't I be thatspecialized person that everyone
(16:19):
wants me to be?
you look at my CV and it hasdifferent things corporate, a
puppet show business.
It has acting on it.
It's like it's everything rightand everybody wants something,
wants the expert, wants thespecialist, and I didn't know
how to explain that and I feltagain shame and blame and why
(16:45):
can't I be normal?
But now understanding humandesign is like, oh, that is,
that was totally normal.
So a human design gave me that.
But that relief, oh, it'sperfectly normal.
I would be.
Thank god, I did that.
So now I can be in this thirdstage of my life when I am the
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role model.
Um, I needed that to, to be ableto be this role model in the
third stage.
So, as I said, I changed thetwo countries.
And when it comes to authority,this clinic authority, oh my
(17:30):
God, oh my God.
And what appealed to me so much?
And it links with what I'mdoing in my business as a coach.
We try to rationalizeeverything and we try to run our
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lives based on what our brainis telling us and our brain is
telling us about pastexperiences.
Our brain is trying to keep ussafe and that's why it's not
willing to take risks.
That's why we experience so muchfear and um in and
understanding more about humandesign, so it matches exactly
what I believed even prior tocoming in contact with human
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design and now, human designgives me exactly the key of how
to uh to act is so before, Iwould say to people to look more
within their hearts.
The hearts are largelyunderrated.
If you rely on what your heartis telling you, what your
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feelings are telling you, it'slooked upon in the society as
being weak.
Weak, um, but what I was tryingto get people to come in touch
with was it was with the deepertruths within themselves, which
are which are greater than thebrain yeah that tries to control
(19:06):
everything and um, in oursociety, the, the, there's a lot
of emphasis on the analyticalpart, on the brain power and the
gut instinct, and the feelingstake second place and human
design tells me clearly okay,I'm a splenic, my authority is
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splenic, so it is okay for me tomake decisions in the moment,
to know in the moment what isokay for me.
For example, my husband is anemotional, he has an emotional
authority.
He needs to go through theemotional cycle, yeah, to know
what is right for him.
So, with my daughter and I'llget very frustrated with my
(19:55):
husband like, what is it?
Why do you need so much time?
it's so simple yes or no, butthat is normal for me, and I
didn't understand him and hewill be like you're reckless,
how can you make a decision,such an important decision, so
fast?
Well, because I don't know.
(20:15):
So it was this mismatch and nowI'm like, okay, yeah, that's
what it is.
Although I learned to torespect his, I couldn't push him
to make a decision faster.
You know, I had to right, itwas a bit of frustration and it
was like it for him as, as youprobably know, people with
(20:35):
emotional authority even to makea decision about what to eat.
They cannot tell you they needoptions in order to decide.
So that was a source offrustration and um.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
It's so interesting that you're saying this because
I'm looking at your chart andyou have a completely open solar
plexus, which our solar plexusis our emotional center.
So if you have that defined, youare a emotional authority.
If you have it undefined,you're some other authority, um,
but your, yours is completelyopen, which means that you have
no defined gates either.
So it's such a I can see thatit would be such an interesting
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dynamic with your husband beinga defined solar plexus and you
being completely open, becausewhat we say is our, when we get
together with someone in somesort of interaction or in some
sort of relationship this goesfor all relationships, not just
partnerships or marriages thatwe, our open centers, magnify
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people's defined centers or theother person's defined centers.
So it's like your open centeris almost acting, almost like a
mirror.
If, like you, hold a mirror upto sunlight right and then it,
like, magnifies the sunlightbeam.
That's ultimately what we dowith our undefined centers when
somebody else has the definedcenter.
(22:07):
So that's super interesting tome.
The other thing that you I waslooking at your chart when
you're talking about I used tosay you know, listen to your
heart.
And it's it's.
It is completely underrated andI completely agree with
everything that you're saying.
One of the things that I alwayspoint out when we're talking
energy centers in human designis we just have two energy
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centers in our head.
We have our crown and our Ajnaand we have seven energy centers
in our body.
So a lot of my work, you know,is very somatic, based a lot of
how can I get in my body?
But with your chart, you, beinga splenic authority, you
actually have it's one of three,no, you have four channels, but
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you have a direct connectionfrom your spleen to your ego
center, which is your heartcenter.
So I really like that youbrought that up of you know,
trusting your heart, because youalso have a defined heart
center, you have a defined egoand those are one of three
defined centers that you have inyour body.
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Then you have, of course, youhave your defined crown and Ajna
, but oftentimes when we havethose direct connections, it's
called a channel.
So on your human design chartyou would see the line from one
shape to another, completelycolored in.
It might be different shades,but it's going to be completely
colored in.
Might be different shades, butit's going to be completely
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colored in.
That's where we can kind ofhone in and like ground into the
connection between the energycenters.
So each energy center holds itsown characteristics and your
spleen, your instinct, yourintuition is connecting directly
, connected to your heart, whichI think just really really
makes sense in the conversationthat you're you're bringing up
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and just trusting, trusting yourgut, right, like that's also
something that I say all thetime to my clients.
If you don't have a definedsacral and or you don't have a
defined spleen, those are bothin the moment.
Yes, no, like the spleen ismore of a quiet whisper.
There's different nuances.
(24:22):
But when we hear, oh, just trustyour gut, or just listen to
your instinct, or trust yourintuition, and if you don't feel
like that resonates with you,or you're like I don't
understand what you're saying, Idon't know why you're saying
this to me.
I don't feel like thatresonates with you, or you're
like I don't understand whatyou're saying, I don't know why
you're saying this to me.
I don't feel like I can feel myintuition very strongly.
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Maybe you have an undefinedspleen center.
Like myself, I have anundefined spleen, but it's super
, it's super interesting andit's so funny.
I mean, that's one of thebenefits, too, of learning.
Human design is learning ourfamily members or our close
friends, and it's like thisunderstanding now that we can
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have of them, rather than likewhy the heck do you always do
this, why do you take so long tomake a decision, it's like, oh,
that makes so much more sensenow that you're actually.
You're actually living in yourdesign.
You're actually living yourtruth.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It's just not my design or my truth yeah, yes,
and I think this is the othervery important part of human
design understanding thenon-defined centers, because
that's the wisdom, that's wherethe wisdom comes um.
(25:41):
So, what is defined it will?
Uh, it is there.
You can rely on that, althoughyou can distort it, but it's
there yeah what is not defined.
That is what changes us and thatis what we have to understand
and make the distinction what isours and what is not, because
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it can distort our own designand um, our, say, perceptions of
the world and how we live.
So, coming back to theundefined emotional center, mine
is completely open.
No gate, no, nothing.
Yeah, and I realized I wasbehaving in a way with my
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daughter.
I was nagging her, I wasfrustrated with her a lot and I
didn't.
I don't understand why, becauseI'm not that way.
I'm more of a big pictureperson.
I don't care about the, thesmall things yeah, but I'll find
myself going again and again inthese cycles of frustration and
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nagging and I am more about lether learn, but in the moment
I'll get trapped into no, youhave to put on a jacket, you
have to.
Yeah, she's gonna get a cold,she's gonna learn.
And then I realized so she wasaway for um overnight trip for
(27:12):
like three days and I wassitting down and I was like why
behave this way?
I hate it and I it seems likeit's something like beyond me is
like I cannot control myself.
I've been trying for so longand I cannot control myself.
You know what?
I'm gonna go to the otherextreme.
Whatever she's doing, I'll justclean after.
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I would just, if it takes toclean after her until she's 18
and she gets out of the house.
That's what I'm going to do,because I hate being this way,
nagging and you know, and thereis no fun anymore between us,
and so I stopped doing that.
She came home, big smile on myface, she threw her clothes all
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over and I said I don't care.
I just don't care because Idon't.
When it comes down to it, who doyou think jumps immediately
like, oh, my god, it's myhusband.
So I was feeling and amplifyinghis frustration, his fear that
she's not going to be organizedenough, that she might be
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failing if she's not keeping upwith all the assignments.
Because she's explaining to memom, if I miss a deadline for an
assignment, I just get a pointoff from 25.
I get one point off, it's fine.
I, I have so many other thingsdance and stuff to do, it's fine
.
And when she was saying to me,when I was with her, I was fine
(28:40):
with it, as it says.
And she says, oh, I can make upthese points and quizzes and
stuff because they give us theopportunity to make extra points
.
Then when these discussionswere happening, when my husband
was present, I would feel likedifferently and no, no, no, you
have to be like every assignmenton time.
So I realized I was taking on alot of my husband's fears and I
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just decided it's not mine andI'm not going to do that.
And we've been having so muchmore fun, my daughter and I and
my husband he because all of asudden he saw that I wasn't the
one doing his bidding he steppedin and he was nagging and doing
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this stuff.
But after a while he calmed downyeah because he realized it was
creating too much friction orso, and he, he didn't.
Yeah, he didn't know how tohandle the situation and so he's
, he's.
He also found his boundary, butbecause me, I was taking on all
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all that energy that I wasfeeling from him and I was
amplifying it.
I was, I was worse than hereacted with the nagging, so I
was worse, so I just steppedback and the whole family is,
it's much better.
And also I felt this likegrowing up, I remember my father
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and telling me you are, um, youcannot, you're emotional over
emotional and I I never, I, Inever understood that because,
if you see, I have my headcenters defined and my and my
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sweet spot is ideas andsynthesizing ideas and talking
about things and in a coherentway and putting them into,
putting ideas out into the world.
But then, it's true, like thesebig emotions will take me over
and I just couldn't handle them.
I didn't because I am notcouldn't handle them.
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I didn't because they, I am notdesigned to handle them.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
And I felt conflicted between this.
Why are people defining me asbeing emotional when I don't
feel that I am emotional?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, that's so true, it's emotional, is such an
interesting conversation becausewe normally say the defined
emotional centers like they,they feel their emotions very
deeply, but then we don't alwayshave that conversation of.
(31:30):
But if you have an undefined oran open emotional center or
solar plexus center, you arestill feeling emotions and
sometimes you can magnify themand feel them even stronger, but
they're not always yours, andso that's really one another
benefit.
I mean, I always say with youropen centers, the first step is
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always stopping and askingyourself is this mine?
Is always stopping and askingyourself is this mine?
So with it within for myself,with an undefined spleen, is
this fear mine?
Because we have a like we couldcall it like a shadow side
right of each emotion, of eachenergy center, rather so is this
fear mine?
Or is this emotion mine?
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Or is this mental pressure orroot pressure, because we have a
crown, is a pressure center,our root is a pressure center.
Is this pressure mine?
Is this whatever this voice,the way that I'm speaking, is
this the way that is myauthentic voice or not if you
have an undefined throat?
But again, another benefit oflearning who you hang around
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with the most, because it mightbe someone else's, it might be
your partner's emotion or fearor pressure and learning it's
just like.
It's just a benefit of learningwhere their open centers are and
where your open centers are andwhere they overlap, like if you
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both have open centers.
Let's say we both.
I think my partner and I bothhave open root centers.
Nobody's magnifying the otherperson's energy, but I have a
defined ego or heart center andhe doesn't, so he's magnifying
that and that can be exhaustingfor both parties in different
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respects.
So many nuances, but yes, I'm1000% with you.
I think that we could havehours and hours long
conversation of just our centersand just talking about defined
and undefined centers and whateach center means.
I think that's a really greatplace.
Once you learn your energy type,once you learn your authority
(33:43):
and your profile I still thoseare really the building blocks
of learning your human design.
But once you learn those,highly recommend diving into
your energy centers and lookingat which ones you have to find
which ones you already theenergy you already possess,
which also makes a lot of sensewith you being a mindset coach
(34:05):
and being so interested in themind and psychology.
And I have a defined Ajna butan open actually just undefined,
undefined crown.
So there's always been thislike really wanting to process
and and have deep conversationsand really like get to the
(34:26):
meaning behind things.
That's really the Ajna, and youhaving both of them it's so,
it's so interesting, all right,well, let's, let's wrap it up.
Um, before the last question, isthere anything else coming into
this conversation that you'relike?
I really like?
This really made a hugedifference for me.
(34:47):
I really want to make sure thatI touch on this part of
learning my human design and howthat's affected me part of
learning my human design and howthat's affected me.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
So I realized that, for example, in my defined
centers, I don't, I am anon-self, I don't my not self
and I am trying to live inmyself and my defined design
(35:29):
Because it feels true to me andit makes sense and it comes back
and I don't know if it's justfor me, especially because I
have the head centers so definedand I tend to use a lot of my
brain and probably more chatterin my brain than in other
(35:53):
people's brains.
Um, everybody has this voice intheir head, but probably mine is
10 times more chattery um andum.
So it is uh difficult but alsoso rewarding to uh for me to use
(36:16):
my uh authority and andstrategy, to live by my
authority and strategy.
So give the brain a rest.
And I was trying to do thisalso, you know before, just
because of my profession being aleadership coach, and, of
(36:37):
course, human design amplifythat.
But how do I live in my truth?
Based trusting my my instinct,moment to moment to moment, and
I think I shared with you that Ihad some psychedelic journeys
and in my I had three or fourand the first one I had what
(37:03):
came to me loud and clear wasjust follow this.
It was shown to me, like in mysolar plexus area just follow
that.
Follow that like a puppy.
It was shown to me to followthat instinct.
That knowing and I was for awhile, I did it.
(37:24):
But then you know, the braincomes in and the environment and
the conditioning and I willforget about that.
But that is the truth I need, Iwant to live, and what helps me
now is to meditate, to let goof the control that.
(37:46):
That is what we, most of us, dowant to control, because the
brain wants to control.
And, um, human design gave meeven more of this confidence
that I am on the right track toto, uh, center myself, center in
(38:06):
the truth.
That comes in meditation, thatcomes when I feel deeply
connected and process thatrather than my analytical mind.
So it is my mission in life tolive by my authority and
strategy, because everythingelse is going to take me to pain
(38:31):
and suffering.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah, yeah, such a beautiful reminder and it really
I love, I love that journeythat you had and that it was
literally telling you, you know,pointing towards the spleen,
like your instinct, and andleading towards that.
And it is, yeah, it's so, it'sso beautiful and it's such a
great reminder and that is, Ithink, a benefit of human design
(38:55):
is it gives us the invitationto surrender control and really
to trust our body.
That's one of the things that Iwas so blessed to grow up with
is my mom, my entire life, hasreminded me by saying things
(39:17):
like your body is so wise, yourbody never lies.
Trust your body, trust yourbody.
She's a splenic authority too,by the way, but it really rings
true and and really, at the endof the day, I mean, what we're
saying with, with authorities,is it's not that, since I have
an undefined spleen, it's notthat I don't have an intuition
(39:38):
and it's not that I don't have,like a, an instinctual response.
It's that sometimes thatinstinctual response could be
someone else's instinctualresponse, or could be someone
else's intuition, or it couldjust be like maybe my, my
intuition is a little bitclouded and my judgment is a
little bit clouded, so makingsure that I'm clearing that
(40:00):
energy out versus you as asplenic authority again, not
that it would never get clouded.
Um, actually, I had thisconversation with uh, a psychic
medium that also is a client,but just a really great friend
as well, and we were justtalking about, like we always do
(40:20):
, chakra clearing meditations,because whenever you're in any
sort of especially, I think, inlike a coaching or guidance
position, where if you are acoach or a guide or a healer,
just because you have a definedcenter, doesn't mean that
nothing is ever going topermeate through that.
So just had to throw out those,those caveats.
(40:41):
But but trust your body.
Your body is so wise.
Look at if, if you want tostart somewhere, start with your
defined body centers so not thetop two triangles, anything
that's colored in down below,from neck down ultimately and
learn the energy of that centerand tap into that center.
(41:04):
So if it's your sacral center,you have a really strong gut
response, a yes, no in themoment.
Spleen, strong instinctualresponse, ego, strong heart,
emotional response, obviously,solar plexus, strong emotional
response, your root center.
If you have a defined rootcenter, very grounded, your like
(41:26):
life force, your drive, yourpurpose what one am I missing?
Your throat.
Yeah, I mean, I think yourthroat is one of actually the
most defined centers in yourchart.
Your spleen right, your spleenand your throat both have four
defined gates, and your Ajnaactually.
Anyway, so so fun, so manyplaces to go, but thank you so
(41:50):
much for coming on.
If people want to follow you,get touch with you.
Where do you hang out?
Do you have a website?
How can people contact you?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
uh, sure, um, thank you for having me um and um.
I could talk about this forhours, and so people can find me
at DanielaDragomircom.
Daniela underscore Dragomirunderscore coach on Instagram.
(42:29):
So I'm also on LinkedIn, butnot very active.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Yeah, love that and all of your links are also in
the show notes down below forpeople that are listening, so
you can always just click thelink if that's easier.
Thank you so much, daniela.
This was such a funconversation.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Thank you.
Welcome back to the podcast Journey to Well.
So today is one of my favoriterecording days because I get to
speak to some of my clients andwe just get to talk about human
design, which is always myfavorite thing to talk about.
So today we have Daniela on thepodcast.
(00:24):
She and I met I don't knowmaybe a year ago or so I can't
remember when you joined, but wemet through a networking group
that I'm a part of.
That's based out of HudsonCounty over in New Jersey, and
she really was interested inlearning about human design.
(00:44):
She's oh, let's bring up yourhuman design.
So we get that out of the way.
She's a 4'6 splenic authorityprojector, so I always love
chatting with projectors andhearing their aha moments when
they learn that they'reprojectors and learn their
energy type.
So maybe we'll talk about that.
But anyway, let me introduce,let me let you introduce
(01:08):
yourself, daniela.
Thank you so much for coming onthe podcast.
It's so great to have you.
Nothing specific that you haveto say to introduce yourself,
just share a little bit aboutwho you are you are, um, hannah,
(01:30):
thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm so happy to talk about the, my two favorite
subjects, my business and myself, so I'm uh, thank you for the
invitation and since I met you,I felt a connection with you.
We have this interest in commonin human development and energy
.
So I am an?
Um, an energy leadership coach,and um, I look at how energy
(01:56):
impacts people.
I'm originally from romania, ifyou want a little bit of a
background.
I worked in the corporate worldand I um, I was, I felt I was
on this quest of understanding,uh, humans and the human mind
and the human behavior, if youwant my whole life and um, right
(02:20):
now I am a coach and I finallyfeel okay, I am doing what was
my passion throughout my life.
So, as an energy leadershipcoach interested in energy, I
think we have infinite energyall time within us and I look at
(02:43):
it as a funnel.
At the top we have thisexpansive energy always
available to us creative energy,compassionate energy um,
everything flows and then,because of our beliefs, of our
experiences, we constrict thisenergy and we go down into the
(03:04):
funnel.
So, uh, that is what I do in mybusiness I try to make people
have access, help people haveaccess to more energy in their
lives and um.
When I heard about human design,it was right up in my alley,
because human design has to dowith energy, as well and I got
(03:28):
excited about it, uh, of course,and I wanted to learn more
about it because, um, I realizedhuman design gives you a
blueprint of how this energymanifests.
So once you do your human designchart, we, you actually have a
blueprint how to access more ofthat energy at the top of the
(03:50):
funnel easier.
Uh, it is my belief that we areall a fractal um of the source
of god, imperfect as we are, butwe are perfect in our
imperfection um, and because weare perfect, although we are not
(04:15):
the one, we are not the source,but we are perfect in whatever
we are given to experience, uh,we.
That's why it's our normalstate to have access to uh the
full, uh joy in life, but forsome reason, we, we constrict
ourselves to to experience joyand um the and happiness and
(04:41):
fulfillment all the time.
And then human design comesalong and shows us how to, why
we don't have, let's say, accessto that expansive energy all
the time yeah, yeah, humandesign.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I love how you said like it is a, it's a blueprint
of of our unique energy and howwe can move through the, move
through our world and movethrough our days.
So, thank you, that was areally beautiful introduction of
of your business and yourconnection of your business and
(05:21):
human design.
So I'm curious.
I let's just start at thebeginning.
I'm curious.
I remember our firstconversations we had of you kind
of being like what is humandesign, what's it all about?
I'm curious what interested youin learning more about human
design and what, maybe, if yourecall when you started
(05:47):
researching or when you and Ihad conversation about human
design, what piqued yourinterest in?
Oh, this is something Idefinitely want to learn more
about.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I came in contact with human design during COVID,
when everybody was doing, youknow, readings for free, was
doing stuff online.
And but back then I felt it wassomething that somebody was
telling a lot of truth aboutmyself, but somehow, like trying
to predict my, I was looking atit still from an astrological
(06:22):
point of view, so maybe I wasn'tready to uh, really, uh, for
this, to absorb this information.
And um, now, with this, uh,going through the leadership
energy, leadership coachingprogram and hearing you talk
about this, I was, no, this isup my alley.
Let me look at it and Irealized it wasn't.
(06:45):
When you did the presentationin our networking group, I
realized it was not a predictionof the future, but it was a
blueprint, as I said before, ofhow we can function more free in
our day-to-day life and moreoptimal, let's say.
(07:07):
And then I started researching,and then I asked you to do my
chart, to get even moreinformation, to get your
perspective and, of course, as aprojector.
The surprise and the breakingnews, as you put it, was that my
strategy and authority weretotally different than I was
(07:32):
conditioned up until now, likebecause my strategy is to wait
to be um invited and, comingfrom the corporate world, I
worked at two um big uh, two ofthe big four consulting
(07:53):
companies and, uh, it was allabout you go, you initiate you
make it happen and um, thatactually created resistance and
I didn.
I wasn't aware of that and Ifelt it.
I was going against the grain.
I felt it.
I was inauthentic when I wasdoing that, but I believed
(08:18):
that's what I needed to do to besuccessful.
Why can't I do more of that besuccessful?
Why can't I do more of that?
I felt a bit of blame and shamethat I couldn't be the person
making things happen, going outthere and pushing and yeah,
talking about myself.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
So that was the breaking news for me as being a
projector yeah, really honestly,when we talk about strategies
like you are referring to, eachenergy type has its own strategy
.
The only strategy that reallyis in alignment, if we're like
(08:58):
going out and initiating things,is a manifestor, and
manifestors only make up 9% ofthe population, so I would
assume that a lot of peopleresonate with hearing that of.
It feels like I'm going againstthe grain, trying to go out and
initiate and go after things,and especially as a projector,
(09:20):
depending on how many undefinedcenters you have, which you
could have just a few definedcenters if you're a generator or
manifesting generator too.
But depending on how manyundefined centers you have,
regardless of your energy type,you might need a little bit more
rest and projectors in general.
What I was starting to say wasprojectors in general tend to
(09:44):
benefit from recharging theirbattery throughout the day,
whereas generators, manifestinggenerators again, depending on
your defined centers we mighthave a little bit more ease in
kind of just using that likeEnergizer Bunny battery
throughout the day and depletingthat, whereas projectors have
(10:05):
like just a smaller battery.
So we kind of wear down thatbattery, take a rest, get out of
other people's energy types,energy fields, and then recharge
and then continue on our dayand especially living and
working.
Well, living near New York,right where the energy is always
high, and then working incorporate.
That's the complete opposite ofhow we're conditioned to
(10:32):
perform.
We're conditioned to always begoing, to always be working, to
always be initiating things, andit really is a complete,
complete, different perspectiveof let me.
Let me sit back and notice theinvitations that I get, because
I think I don't know if you andI had this conversation I assume
(10:54):
we did but the whole like waitfor something always trips
people up, like even evenmanagens and generators.
With the wait to respond, waitfor an invitation, we're like
are we just supposed to sit onour bums and like twiddle our
fingers and just wait for peopleto come into our lives and
invite us to like, I don't know,invite us, oh, I want to work
(11:16):
with you.
Or like, invite us to our nextevent or our next presentation.
Not necessarily.
It's not that we're waiting,like not doing anything or in
action.
It's truly an invitation tonotice where the invites are
coming from, where people arewanting more of your wisdom and
(11:39):
more of your guidance as aprojector and then taking that
and running with it.
So it's more like I always sayit's a pause, especially with
Manny Jens, because we just moveso fast.
But, um, but with withprojectors, with all energy
types besides manifestors, it'sa pause.
(12:01):
Let me pause and look aroundand see the invitations that are
coming to me.
Yeah, does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yes, it does so.
A couple of observations thatwere coming into my mind while
you're talking, so.
I realized because I believedall my life I had to go, go, go
and um and Um.
So I realized I was in my jobs,I could go for about three
(12:40):
years and then I'll burn outbecause I was um, acting as a
generator and after three yearsof doing that I would just hit a
wall.
And that happened also with mydaughter.
I behaved like a generator mom.
(13:01):
I was doing everything, I wasbeing everything Because I
started following on socialmedia recently a human design
expert I forgot her name who isspecialized in children, and she
was talking about the generatormom and I was like my god, I
(13:23):
was that mom.
And when my daughter turnedthree, I experienced, I realized
it happened the same whathappened with my corporate jobs
after three years I hit thatwall.
I I just fell apart.
I didn't know, I didn't havethe energy, I just didn't know
(13:43):
what to do, and it took me abouttwo years to to find my balance
.
I felt guilt.
I wasn't the mom that I wantedto be where I was supposed to be
, and it took me two years toprocess that and to come to
terms, up until she was aboutfive.
(14:04):
I felt like I was failing, butI couldn't go on in the same way
.
So I realize now, looking back,it was me trying to be a
generator and my husband is agenerator.
So, and probably every mydaughter is a generator and
probably my mom, I think she wasa generator.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I was just going to say that I bet your parents at
least one parent was a generatortoo.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I think my mom was a generator.
My dad, I think he was aprojector, but he was trying to
be a generator and I think hefelt he failed and wanted to
push me to be a generator.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So, and this created a lot of friction in my life and
a lot of guilt and feelings offailure oh, why can't I, you
know, go on?
After three years, it was clearfor me I'll hit that wall.
It was time to stop, make achange, and I always thought if
(15:10):
I change jobs or, you know,change something on the outside,
it will be okay, and also, ifyou look at, because of so this
is coming from my generator, myprojector how I mismanage my
energy.
but, being a six line, I need.
(15:33):
In the first part of my life Ineeded to experiment a lot in
order to try things and to findout for myself, because the
first part, up until 30, of thesix lines, behave like a three
line, as you know, know, I don'thave to tell you, but no, thank
(15:57):
you for sharing for thelisteners, because they don't
know, maybe yeah, for whoever islistening.
And um, no wonder I changed twocountries.
Uh, my CV looks pretty diverseand I always felt, like, why,
like, why can't I be thatspecialized person that everyone
(16:19):
wants me to be?
you look at my CV and it hasdifferent things corporate, a
puppet show business.
It has acting on it.
It's like it's everything rightand everybody wants something,
wants the expert, wants thespecialist, and I didn't know
how to explain that and I feltagain shame and blame and why
(16:45):
can't I be normal?
But now understanding humandesign is like, oh, that is,
that was totally normal.
So a human design gave me that.
But that relief, oh, it'sperfectly normal.
I would be.
Thank god, I did that.
So now I can be in this thirdstage of my life when I am the
(17:07):
role model.
Um, I needed that to, to be ableto be this role model in the
third stage.
So, as I said, I changed thetwo countries.
And when it comes to authority,this clinic authority, oh my
(17:30):
God, oh my God.
And what appealed to me so much?
And it links with what I'mdoing in my business as a coach.
We try to rationalizeeverything and we try to run our
(17:59):
lives based on what our brainis telling us and our brain is
telling us about pastexperiences.
Our brain is trying to keep ussafe and that's why it's not
willing to take risks.
That's why we experience so muchfear and um in and
understanding more about humandesign, so it matches exactly
what I believed even prior tocoming in contact with human
(18:20):
design and now, human designgives me exactly the key of how
to uh to act is so before, Iwould say to people to look more
within their hearts.
The hearts are largelyunderrated.
If you rely on what your heartis telling you, what your
(18:44):
feelings are telling you, it'slooked upon in the society as
being weak.
Weak, um, but what I was tryingto get people to come in touch
with was it was with the deepertruths within themselves, which
are which are greater than thebrain yeah that tries to control
(19:06):
everything and um, in oursociety, the, the, there's a lot
of emphasis on the analyticalpart, on the brain power and the
gut instinct, and the feelingstake second place and human
design tells me clearly okay,I'm a splenic, my authority is
(19:31):
splenic, so it is okay for me tomake decisions in the moment,
to know in the moment what isokay for me.
For example, my husband is anemotional, he has an emotional
authority.
He needs to go through theemotional cycle, yeah, to know
what is right for him.
So, with my daughter and I'llget very frustrated with my
(19:55):
husband like, what is it?
Why do you need so much time?
it's so simple yes or no, butthat is normal for me, and I
didn't understand him and hewill be like you're reckless,
how can you make a decision,such an important decision, so
fast?
Well, because I don't know.
(20:15):
So it was this mismatch and nowI'm like, okay, yeah, that's
what it is.
Although I learned to torespect his, I couldn't push him
to make a decision faster.
You know, I had to right, itwas a bit of frustration and it
was like it for him as, as youprobably know, people with
(20:35):
emotional authority even to makea decision about what to eat.
They cannot tell you they needoptions in order to decide.
So that was a source offrustration and um.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
It's so interesting that you're saying this because
I'm looking at your chart andyou have a completely open solar
plexus, which our solar plexusis our emotional center.
So if you have that defined, youare a emotional authority.
If you have it undefined,you're some other authority, um,
but your, yours is completelyopen, which means that you have
no defined gates either.
So it's such a I can see thatit would be such an interesting
(21:21):
dynamic with your husband beinga defined solar plexus and you
being completely open, becausewhat we say is our, when we get
together with someone in somesort of interaction or in some
sort of relationship this goesfor all relationships, not just
partnerships or marriages thatwe, our open centers, magnify
(21:46):
people's defined centers or theother person's defined centers.
So it's like your open centeris almost acting, almost like a
mirror.
If, like you, hold a mirror upto sunlight right and then it,
like, magnifies the sunlightbeam.
That's ultimately what we dowith our undefined centers when
somebody else has the definedcenter.
(22:07):
So that's super interesting tome.
The other thing that you I waslooking at your chart when
you're talking about I used tosay you know, listen to your
heart.
And it's it's.
It is completely underrated andI completely agree with
everything that you're saying.
One of the things that I alwayspoint out when we're talking
energy centers in human designis we just have two energy
(22:29):
centers in our head.
We have our crown and our Ajnaand we have seven energy centers
in our body.
So a lot of my work, you know,is very somatic, based a lot of
how can I get in my body?
But with your chart, you, beinga splenic authority, you
actually have it's one of three,no, you have four channels, but
(22:53):
you have a direct connectionfrom your spleen to your ego
center, which is your heartcenter.
So I really like that youbrought that up of you know,
trusting your heart, because youalso have a defined heart
center, you have a defined egoand those are one of three
defined centers that you have inyour body.
(23:13):
Then you have, of course, youhave your defined crown and Ajna
, but oftentimes when we havethose direct connections, it's
called a channel.
So on your human design chartyou would see the line from one
shape to another, completelycolored in.
It might be different shades,but it's going to be completely
colored in.
Might be different shades, butit's going to be completely
(23:38):
colored in.
That's where we can kind ofhone in and like ground into the
connection between the energycenters.
So each energy center holds itsown characteristics and your
spleen, your instinct, yourintuition is connecting directly
, connected to your heart, whichI think just really really
makes sense in the conversationthat you're you're bringing up
(24:02):
and just trusting, trusting yourgut, right, like that's also
something that I say all thetime to my clients.
If you don't have a definedsacral and or you don't have a
defined spleen, those are bothin the moment.
Yes, no, like the spleen ismore of a quiet whisper.
There's different nuances.
(24:22):
But when we hear, oh, just trustyour gut, or just listen to
your instinct, or trust yourintuition, and if you don't feel
like that resonates with you,or you're like I don't
understand what you're saying, Idon't know why you're saying
this to me.
I don't feel like thatresonates with you, or you're
like I don't understand whatyou're saying, I don't know why
you're saying this to me.
I don't feel like I can feel myintuition very strongly.
(24:44):
Maybe you have an undefinedspleen center.
Like myself, I have anundefined spleen, but it's super
, it's super interesting andit's so funny.
I mean, that's one of thebenefits, too, of learning.
Human design is learning ourfamily members or our close
friends, and it's like thisunderstanding now that we can
(25:04):
have of them, rather than likewhy the heck do you always do
this, why do you take so long tomake a decision, it's like, oh,
that makes so much more sensenow that you're actually.
You're actually living in yourdesign.
You're actually living yourtruth.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It's just not my design or my truth yeah, yes,
and I think this is the othervery important part of human
design understanding thenon-defined centers, because
that's the wisdom, that's wherethe wisdom comes um.
(25:41):
So, what is defined it will?
Uh, it is there.
You can rely on that, althoughyou can distort it, but it's
there yeah what is not defined.
That is what changes us and thatis what we have to understand
and make the distinction what isours and what is not, because
(26:03):
it can distort our own designand um, our, say, perceptions of
the world and how we live.
So, coming back to theundefined emotional center, mine
is completely open.
No gate, no, nothing.
Yeah, and I realized I wasbehaving in a way with my
(26:27):
daughter.
I was nagging her, I wasfrustrated with her a lot and I
didn't.
I don't understand why, becauseI'm not that way.
I'm more of a big pictureperson.
I don't care about the, thesmall things yeah, but I'll find
myself going again and again inthese cycles of frustration and
(26:51):
nagging and I am more about lether learn, but in the moment
I'll get trapped into no, youhave to put on a jacket, you
have to.
Yeah, she's gonna get a cold,she's gonna learn.
And then I realized so she wasaway for um overnight trip for
(27:12):
like three days and I wassitting down and I was like why
behave this way?
I hate it and I it seems likeit's something like beyond me is
like I cannot control myself.
I've been trying for so longand I cannot control myself.
You know what?
I'm gonna go to the otherextreme.
Whatever she's doing, I'll justclean after.
(27:34):
I would just, if it takes toclean after her until she's 18
and she gets out of the house.
That's what I'm going to do,because I hate being this way,
nagging and you know, and thereis no fun anymore between us,
and so I stopped doing that.
She came home, big smile on myface, she threw her clothes all
(27:56):
over and I said I don't care.
I just don't care because Idon't.
When it comes down to it, who doyou think jumps immediately
like, oh, my god, it's myhusband.
So I was feeling and amplifyinghis frustration, his fear that
she's not going to be organizedenough, that she might be
(28:19):
failing if she's not keeping upwith all the assignments.
Because she's explaining to memom, if I miss a deadline for an
assignment, I just get a pointoff from 25.
I get one point off, it's fine.
I, I have so many other thingsdance and stuff to do, it's fine
.
And when she was saying to me,when I was with her, I was fine
(28:40):
with it, as it says.
And she says, oh, I can make upthese points and quizzes and
stuff because they give us theopportunity to make extra points
.
Then when these discussionswere happening, when my husband
was present, I would feel likedifferently and no, no, no, you
have to be like every assignmenton time.
So I realized I was taking on alot of my husband's fears and I
(29:08):
just decided it's not mine andI'm not going to do that.
And we've been having so muchmore fun, my daughter and I and
my husband he because all of asudden he saw that I wasn't the
one doing his bidding he steppedin and he was nagging and doing
(29:29):
this stuff.
But after a while he calmed downyeah because he realized it was
creating too much friction orso, and he, he didn't.
Yeah, he didn't know how tohandle the situation and so he's
, he's.
He also found his boundary, butbecause me, I was taking on all
(29:49):
all that energy that I wasfeeling from him and I was
amplifying it.
I was, I was worse than hereacted with the nagging, so I
was worse, so I just steppedback and the whole family is,
it's much better.
And also I felt this likegrowing up, I remember my father
(30:13):
and telling me you are, um, youcannot, you're emotional over
emotional and I I never, I, Inever understood that because,
if you see, I have my headcenters defined and my and my
(30:34):
sweet spot is ideas andsynthesizing ideas and talking
about things and in a coherentway and putting them into,
putting ideas out into the world.
But then, it's true, like thesebig emotions will take me over
and I just couldn't handle them.
I didn't because I am notcouldn't handle them.
(30:55):
I didn't because they, I am notdesigned to handle them.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
And I felt conflicted between this.
Why are people defining me asbeing emotional when I don't
feel that I am emotional?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, that's so true, it's emotional, is such an
interesting conversation becausewe normally say the defined
emotional centers like they,they feel their emotions very
deeply, but then we don't alwayshave that conversation of.
(31:30):
But if you have an undefined oran open emotional center or
solar plexus center, you arestill feeling emotions and
sometimes you can magnify themand feel them even stronger, but
they're not always yours, andso that's really one another
benefit.
I mean, I always say with youropen centers, the first step is
(31:51):
always stopping and askingyourself is this mine?
Is always stopping and askingyourself is this mine?
So with it within for myself,with an undefined spleen, is
this fear mine?
Because we have a like we couldcall it like a shadow side
right of each emotion, of eachenergy center, rather so is this
fear mine?
Or is this emotion mine?
(32:12):
Or is this mental pressure orroot pressure, because we have a
crown, is a pressure center,our root is a pressure center.
Is this pressure mine?
Is this whatever this voice,the way that I'm speaking, is
this the way that is myauthentic voice or not if you
have an undefined throat?
But again, another benefit oflearning who you hang around
(32:34):
with the most, because it mightbe someone else's, it might be
your partner's emotion or fearor pressure and learning it's
just like.
It's just a benefit of learningwhere their open centers are and
where your open centers are andwhere they overlap, like if you
(32:57):
both have open centers.
Let's say we both.
I think my partner and I bothhave open root centers.
Nobody's magnifying the otherperson's energy, but I have a
defined ego or heart center andhe doesn't, so he's magnifying
that and that can be exhaustingfor both parties in different
(33:20):
respects.
So many nuances, but yes, I'm1000% with you.
I think that we could havehours and hours long
conversation of just our centersand just talking about defined
and undefined centers and whateach center means.
I think that's a really greatplace.
Once you learn your energy type,once you learn your authority
(33:43):
and your profile I still thoseare really the building blocks
of learning your human design.
But once you learn those,highly recommend diving into
your energy centers and lookingat which ones you have to find
which ones you already theenergy you already possess,
which also makes a lot of sensewith you being a mindset coach
(34:05):
and being so interested in themind and psychology.
And I have a defined Ajna butan open actually just undefined,
undefined crown.
So there's always been thislike really wanting to process
and and have deep conversationsand really like get to the
(34:26):
meaning behind things.
That's really the Ajna, and youhaving both of them it's so,
it's so interesting, all right,well, let's, let's wrap it up.
Um, before the last question, isthere anything else coming into
this conversation that you'relike?
I really like?
This really made a hugedifference for me.
(34:47):
I really want to make sure thatI touch on this part of
learning my human design and howthat's affected me part of
learning my human design and howthat's affected me.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
So I realized that, for example, in my defined
centers, I don't, I am anon-self, I don't my not self
and I am trying to live inmyself and my defined design
(35:29):
Because it feels true to me andit makes sense and it comes back
and I don't know if it's justfor me, especially because I
have the head centers so definedand I tend to use a lot of my
brain and probably more chatterin my brain than in other
(35:53):
people's brains.
Um, everybody has this voice intheir head, but probably mine is
10 times more chattery um andum.
So it is uh difficult but alsoso rewarding to uh for me to use
(36:16):
my uh authority and andstrategy, to live by my
authority and strategy.
So give the brain a rest.
And I was trying to do thisalso, you know before, just
because of my profession being aleadership coach, and, of
(36:37):
course, human design amplifythat.
But how do I live in my truth?
Based trusting my my instinct,moment to moment to moment, and
I think I shared with you that Ihad some psychedelic journeys
and in my I had three or fourand the first one I had what
(37:03):
came to me loud and clear wasjust follow this.
It was shown to me, like in mysolar plexus area just follow
that.
Follow that like a puppy.
It was shown to me to followthat instinct.
That knowing and I was for awhile, I did it.
(37:24):
But then you know, the braincomes in and the environment and
the conditioning and I willforget about that.
But that is the truth I need, Iwant to live, and what helps me
now is to meditate, to let goof the control that.
(37:46):
That is what we, most of us, dowant to control, because the
brain wants to control.
And, um, human design gave meeven more of this confidence
that I am on the right track toto, uh, center myself, center in
(38:06):
the truth.
That comes in meditation, thatcomes when I feel deeply
connected and process thatrather than my analytical mind.
So it is my mission in life tolive by my authority and
strategy, because everythingelse is going to take me to pain
(38:31):
and suffering.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah, yeah, such a beautiful reminder and it really
I love, I love that journeythat you had and that it was
literally telling you, you know,pointing towards the spleen,
like your instinct, and andleading towards that.
And it is, yeah, it's so, it'sso beautiful and it's such a
great reminder and that is, Ithink, a benefit of human design
(38:55):
is it gives us the invitationto surrender control and really
to trust our body.
That's one of the things that Iwas so blessed to grow up with
is my mom, my entire life, hasreminded me by saying things
(39:17):
like your body is so wise, yourbody never lies.
Trust your body, trust yourbody.
She's a splenic authority too,by the way, but it really rings
true and and really, at the endof the day, I mean, what we're
saying with, with authorities,is it's not that, since I have
an undefined spleen, it's notthat I don't have an intuition
(39:38):
and it's not that I don't have,like a, an instinctual response.
It's that sometimes thatinstinctual response could be
someone else's instinctualresponse, or could be someone
else's intuition, or it couldjust be like maybe my, my
intuition is a little bitclouded and my judgment is a
little bit clouded, so makingsure that I'm clearing that
(40:00):
energy out versus you as asplenic authority again, not
that it would never get clouded.
Um, actually, I had thisconversation with uh, a psychic
medium that also is a client,but just a really great friend
as well, and we were justtalking about, like we always do
(40:20):
, chakra clearing meditations,because whenever you're in any
sort of especially, I think, inlike a coaching or guidance
position, where if you are acoach or a guide or a healer,
just because you have a definedcenter, doesn't mean that
nothing is ever going topermeate through that.
So just had to throw out those,those caveats.
(40:41):
But but trust your body.
Your body is so wise.
Look at if, if you want tostart somewhere, start with your
defined body centers so not thetop two triangles, anything
that's colored in down below,from neck down ultimately and
learn the energy of that centerand tap into that center.
(41:04):
So if it's your sacral center,you have a really strong gut
response, a yes, no in themoment.
Spleen, strong instinctualresponse, ego, strong heart,
emotional response, obviously,solar plexus, strong emotional
response, your root center.
If you have a defined rootcenter, very grounded, your like
(41:26):
life force, your drive, yourpurpose what one am I missing?
Your throat.
Yeah, I mean, I think yourthroat is one of actually the
most defined centers in yourchart.
Your spleen right, your spleenand your throat both have four
defined gates, and your Ajnaactually.
Anyway, so so fun, so manyplaces to go, but thank you so
(41:50):
much for coming on.
If people want to follow you,get touch with you.
Where do you hang out?
Do you have a website?
How can people contact you?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
uh, sure, um, thank you for having me um and um.
I could talk about this forhours, and so people can find me
at DanielaDragomircom.
Daniela underscore Dragomirunderscore coach on Instagram.
(42:29):
So I'm also on LinkedIn, butnot very active.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Yeah, love that and all of your links are also in
the show notes down below forpeople that are listening, so
you can always just click thelink if that's easier.
Thank you so much, daniela.
This was such a funconversation.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Thank you.
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