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February 14, 2024 26 mins

Neil and Phyllis, or Neillis as they've been called, don't do the Valentine's thing. Their marriage has survived 20 years without cards, flowers, and candy. In their book, staying married does not hinge on some made-up holiday for consumerism. In this episode, Neil and Phyllis talk about staying married despite the year-round challenges of matrimony and they do it all with a laugh. They don't celebrate Valentine's but they have no problem celebrating each other. It's a married thing most folks don't understand.

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