May 22, 2025 • 32 mins
Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly “Who Are You” theme by discussing the importance of having your identity rooted in Christ. Dr. Richard Blackaby joined the conversation and provided insight into how, when our identity is rooted in God, we experience Him and His nature personally. Dr. Blackaby is the President of Blackaby Ministries International. He also travels internationally, speaking on spiritual leadership in the home, church, and marketplace. He also speaks to spiritual awakening, experiencing God, and the Christian Life. He also has a podcast called The Richard Blackaby Leadership Podcast. Dr. Blackaby has also served as a Senior Pastor and Seminary President. We also had Dr. Mitch Glaser join us to discuss the recent killing of Israeli Embassy staff members and the current rise of anti-semitism. Dr. Glaser has been the President of Chosen People Ministries since 1997. Chosen People Ministries is the oldest and largest Messianic mission in the United States. He also authored several books, including “The Middle East- A Biblical Response to the Current Conflict.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.
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This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
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You know, if you're new listening to us here. I
was blown away a number of years ago now, and
I saw the words of Jesus where he said, it
is to your advantage that I go, because the Holy
Spirit will come, the Comforter, and He will guide you,
ultimately guide you into all truth. And what a what
an amazing what an amazing thing. By the way, if
you want the biggest bodies of teaching on the Holy Spirit,
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it's John 14, John 16, and Romans eight. That is,
you want the comprehensive deal. That's it. You can go
to First Corinthians and find teaching on the power of
the Holy Spirit. And yet those are more corrective in
nature rather than instructive in nature. But the most illumination
about the power of the Holy Spirit is what Jesus
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tells his disciples. He says, it's to your advantage that
I go. It's just when I saw that, I'm like,
hold the phone, Charlie Brown. If it's to our advantage
that Jesus is gone, maybe we ought to plumb the
depths of that advantage. Ali.
S3 (01:09):
If you have an advantage, you want to take it.
S2 (01:14):
Oh, what's that game where they have an advantage? What
is that survivor advantage.
S3 (01:19):
Like I don't know.
S2 (01:21):
Yeah, that that reality show that barely made it. What
are they on their 48th season advantage?
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I think they are season 40 something.
S3 (01:27):
Something like that.
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Yeah yeah yeah. It's it's really cool. And boy, sometimes
wake up in the morning we go yeah, yeah I
got I have one advantage please. Uh, right over here.
S3 (01:40):
You know my, my son plays travel basketball and he
recently had showed up to a game and only there
were only four kids on his team that showed up
for the start of the team for the start of
the game. So the other team had a one person advantage.
S4 (01:54):
And.
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Got to play five on four. Jeez, So.
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Did they hold them off? That's kind of.
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Fun, though, you know? I mean, halftime, they got their
fifth guy to show up, and then they could at
least be even. But for a whole half they were
down one man and had to like if you got
the advantage, take it.
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But cam, I could just see his little heart like, oh,
he said.
S3 (02:16):
They just kept trapping me at half court. They just
kept sending two at me and there was no one open.
S2 (02:22):
Well, no, I mean that's the that's actually wise defense.
When you're up one, you go to the guard.
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You're using your advantage. Yeah. Use the advantage.
S4 (02:31):
Man.
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Yeah. And the other subplot there is the kids sitting
in the stands going, dad, there's a team. I actually
wouldn't have to fill the bench on.
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I'd be a starter right away.
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Dad, sign me up for these guys. They seem to
not have enough personnel.
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They're undermanned today.
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It's crazy.
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Why is it that that happens? When my son was
playing ball and not at the AAU level? Everybody shows up,
suited up, ready to go. But in junior high and
even early on in high school. He had a couple
of games he started. There's four guys on the court.
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And you're going, can we get everybody to show up?
And then you got to you're running around like like
crazy men just trying to trying to not be overwhelmed.
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Yeah, it's it's crazy. So when you when you got
an advantage when you're one up but you don't use
it because that'd be a real loss. You find out
the opposition's got four and you say, well, let's just
play with four. No, if you got an advantage, take it, man.
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Use the advantage.
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Get them on the court. Uh, you know, sometimes we
wake up in the morning, we go, man, do we
need an advantage in rough news coming out of DC?
We're going to break it down for you.
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Well, for us to speculate, postulate Cogitate commentate on some news,
it would be futile. And I mean that. I'm not
trying to be cute here. There's some things that we
need to bring in, and this is one of the
things we tried to do here with Karl and Cruz.
Bring in experts that actually have a way better handle
on what's going on. Doctor Mitch Glazer is one of them, right? Ali.
S3 (04:12):
Yeah, from Chosen People Ministries. If you follow the news
at all, you've likely heard about the murder that happened outside.
Was it the Israel, the embassy?
S4 (04:22):
Uh, no, it was outside of a museum.
S3 (04:24):
The museum last night in DC. Let's get Doctor Mitch
Glazer from Chosen People Ministries to weigh in. Coming up.
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Precious young couple gunned down in cold blood last night
in Washington, DC at a Jewish museum by a man
when he was arrested, was yelling free, free Palestine, free,
free Palestine. What's going on, Mitch Glazer? He's with us
right now, president of Chosen People Ministries. What was your
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first initial response when you heard this news?
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Well, like you, Carl, I got up pretty early in
the morning and, uh, found out about it immediately contacted
our chosen people Ministry staff in Israel and to see
how they were doing. I found out quite a bit
about the couple if you wanted me to share some
of that.
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Yeah, it's a precious story, actually. They were going to
be engaged in Jerusalem this week, right?
S6 (05:29):
They were. But what some people may not know is
that your own lozinski was a believer in Jesus.
S2 (05:37):
Oh he was.
S6 (05:40):
So this is the horrific murder of a young, dynamic
Messianic Jewish person, uh, with a godly family in Israel.
And I would imagine I can't say too much at
this time because it would be too personal. I know
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for sure that he was was a believer. It looks
pretty clear that his fiancée was as well.
S3 (06:09):
Wow. Doctor Mitch Glazer is with Chosen People Ministries, one
of the oldest and largest messianic missions in the United States.
Doctor Glazer, we have seen a resurgence in anti-Semitism, particularly
since October 7th. This is often called the world's oldest hatred.
Give us a picture of what this new anti-Semitism looks like.
S6 (06:33):
Well, this new anti-Semitism is dressed up in alleged political clothing. And, uh,
from the name of the assailant, it doesn't seem like
necessarily that he is an Arab or Palestinian himself. And
so it's possible that he's one of those who has
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been influenced by all of the propaganda against Israel and
against the Jewish people, and up until that's been coming
out recently, in light of what I think is a
defensive action on Israel's part, after the attack of October 7th,
we had a major conference at Moody Bible Institute last
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fall that Carl was part of and where we were
able to shine a light on those issues and, and
help people see that there is an underlying anti-Semitism that's
floating around the globe that is expressing itself in political terms,
but it goes far deeper than that. And recent surveys
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have also indicated that anti-Semitism is is on the rise,
not only in the United States, but unfortunately, we've demonstrated
that it's on the rise across the pond in England
and in Ireland for sure. Australia. And so many of these, uh,
individuals who are allegedly taking a political stand against the
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modern state of Israel and their pursuit of their enemies
who attack them on October 7th. We do see that
there is an underlying anti-Semitism that is coming to the
surface now. And this is the first murder shooting directly
at close range. She knew exactly what he was doing.
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Of Jewish people. There were a couple of shootings at
synagogues a few years ago. We thought that that may
have died down, but obviously it has not. And so
we are living in very dangerous times, which means my
brothers and sisters in Christ need to be praying for
the peace of Jerusalem and for the protection of the
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Jewish people. And I know as a messianic Jew and
maybe speaking on behalf of many of the Messianic Jews
who are who are listening and who are part of
the body of Messiah all across the United States. I
know that all of us would appreciate your prayers.
S2 (09:02):
Yeah, and we're going to do that before we're done here.
Doctor Mitch Glazer, our guest right now, president of Chosen
People Ministries. Good man of God, great man, got a
great sense of humor. He's an absolute character I love Mitch.
What a guy. I wish I could have more time
with you, brother. You look at situations like you look
like situations like this, and, you know, I don't want
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to read too much into it, but this. There's a
radicalization that is happening on college campuses that has a
heavy dose of irony. These were campuses here in the
last decade that stood up for people that felt microaggressions.
They would draw circles and safe spaces. And yet these
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same proponents Sense of protecting. Microaggressions are the same voices
that are speaking loudly. I'm not saying they're promoting murder,
but they're speaking loudly for terrorist groups. There has to be.
You can't ignore a demonic, spiritually demonic influence going on here, Mitch,
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because it goes beyond common sense, my brother.
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It is. I mean, I would speak directly to the
Jewish issue, Carl, because God made a covenant with Abraham,
promised a people, a land and a future for Israel,
and even gave the geographic boundaries of the land of
Israel in Genesis 15. And now we see that there
are movements that are becoming more and more overt in
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their anti-Semitism and Anti-israelism and under the guise, I think,
sometimes of political radicalism. Carl, I was a young, unsaved
Jewish hippie.
S2 (10:54):
Yeah.
S6 (10:55):
In the late 60s and early 70s. And I was
I was at Columbia with some of those. Right when
those riots were taking place. And, uh, there was a
different feel to those riots than what's happening today. Those
were kids searching for peace. And but these today, these
today are smaller, actually, but more radical and more vicious. And, uh,
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there's a darkness to it. Carl. And so I think
that it, it shows a certain Satanic involvement with what's
happening on campus. And obviously it's not. And this is
one of the big deals about the shooting call. It's
it's not just campus. It just moved off campus in
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the most violent of ways. And so this is we
need to take notice of this. I think that the
landscape changed last night with the shooting of this precious couple.
S3 (11:53):
Doctor Mitch Glazer, Chosen People Ministries with us right now.
Doctor Glazer, what are some of the lies that are
being told about Israel that you believe are sort of
cultivating this acceptance of anti-Semitism and of hatred of the
Jewish people in general?
S6 (12:10):
Number one, I think, is the accusation of genocide. That's
a false charge. We've already demonstrated that this charge of genocide,
which was brought before the International Criminal Court by South Africa,
that was then supported by Ireland, 16% of Irish, quote unquote,
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Christians in a recent survey were favorable towards Israel. Let
me redefine that. That means almost 75% were not. And
so I think there's an underlying anti-Semitism in all of
these all of these issues. And so I think that
genocide is is terrible, of course. But Israel was not
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committing genocide. Israel was trying to defend itself. And every,
every couple of hours, even over the last few days,
maybe 2 or 3 times a day, actually, maybe more.
I get emails, I mean, WhatsApp messages from our staff
saying sheltering, sheltering, sheltering because missiles are coming in not
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just from the Houthis, but from still from Gaza. And
so this this war is not over. So where's the genocide?
Who's attacking a nation of innocents? It's not Israel who's
attacking a nation of innocents. There's military action, terrorist actions
against Israel. Israel is defending itself. So that's a false charge.
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And it's a very serious false charge.
S2 (13:39):
We're going to pray here in just a moment, Mitch.
What are the most responsible biblical responses to something like
this for a Christ follower. What do you say?
S6 (13:52):
I've got three P's for you. Call. I'm an old
Baptist preacher, you know, even though I'm Jewish, you know.
So the first one is to pray. Pray for the
peace of Jerusalem. Psalm 122, verse six. They will prosper
who love thee. It's prayer with a promise. Uh. God
chose Abraham, chose the Jewish people, has great plans. First
coming came through the Jewish people. Second coming will come
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when the Jewish people turn to Christ. Just look at
Romans 1111 through the end of the chapter. There's no
doubt that Satan is trying to destroy the Jewish people
because he wants to destroy the Messiah and he hates God.
And so, uh, this is a very important thing, uh,
to see. And the antidote to a spirit, the best
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weapon in a spiritual battle is prayer and the word
of God. And so we have to fight, like, with,
like we're fighting a spiritual battle. We need to be
on our knees. So that's prayer. Number two is to preserve.
And we have to understand that we have an obligation
as Christians to help preserve the Jewish people. God said
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to Abraham, I will bless those who bless thee, curse
those who curse thee. And so God wants us preserve
the Jewish people. And the third little pea is, I believe,
grows out of these first two. And that's to protect
Christians need to be able to protect the Jewish people.
We had a rally in New York, and we had
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an Australian Jewish believer who said something that I will
never forget, and that is we need to let the
pro-Palestinian protesters and those who hate the Jewish people know
that in order to get to the Jewish people, they
have to first get through the church.
S2 (15:38):
Yeah. Powerful.
S6 (15:39):
So Christians can protect the Jewish people. If you see
it locally, handle it. If you hear about it globally,
pray about it. Stand against it. Use your social media
in a positive way. Pray. Preserve. Protect the Jewish people.
And that will be an incredible testimony, by the way,
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to your Jewish friends.
S2 (16:02):
Mitch, I love you. Let me do this right now. Father,
thank you that you hear our prayers. Our prayers right
now are not without power. We do not serve a
God who has hands that cannot move and feet that
cannot walk. You are able and Lord, in your providence
and power we ask you to thwart evil. We ask
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in the name of Jesus. And we speak in the
name of Jesus. The Lord rebuke you, Satan, you have
no authority here. And Lord, we do pray. We do preserve.
We do protect. And we thank you that you are good.
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We thank you that you have emotions of weeping over
people without a shepherd. And you extend a hand to
every person, even this young man who took the lives
of this precious couple last night in DC. And you're
reaching out and offering him today life in Christ Jesus. And, Lord,
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I give you thanks today. It calms our heart to
know that we can talk to the God of the universe.
And so we pray. Peace over Jerusalem, peace in this world.
And we know that that day will come when the
Prince of Peace will arrive. And everything will be brought
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into balance. But until then, Lord, we pray, as you've
called us to pray in Jesus name. Amen.
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Amen.
S6 (17:47):
Thank you, Brother Carl. I love you too. And let's
all remember to pray for the family of Daniel and Sarah.
S2 (17:54):
We will do that. We will do that.
S6 (17:56):
That was that was murdered. Yeah.
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Thank you, Mitch, for coming in here this morning.
S3 (18:00):
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the resurrection is still cooking here today. By the way, folks,
the tomb is still empty. It's not one day that
we celebrate the empty tomb. It's like three 6524 over seven.
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Yes.
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Oh, so God wants to help you overcome what seems
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Yeah, grateful for you being here this morning, guys. Lots
to pray for in our world today. And we're not
done yet. Coming up we're going to be tackling this
identity thing from a posture of discipline. What do we need?
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What do you believe to be true about yourself? If
you had to pin down your identity? Who are you?
It's easy to start to pin on. I am this
based on your family, based on your job, based on
your accomplishments. But who are you in Christ? It's so
important that we have our identity in Christ fixed and rooted.
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We're going to get some help with this with Doctor
Richard Blackaby joining us. Coming up.
S1 (20:19):
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S2 (20:25):
Well, we've been tackling identity in Christ and identity in Christ.
I think it was popularized probably by Neil Anderson in.
S3 (20:34):
Okay.
S2 (20:35):
Uh, I think Neil probably popularized this, but, boy, when
he began to speak of the power of identity to
overcome so much stuff in this broken and fallen world,
it really created an avalanche of teaching on this. And
one of the most incredible Bible studies ever is experiencing God,
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finding where God is working and join him. I mean,
come on, that's just I mean, you just lift that
from the heart and the pulse of experiencing God. And
one of those minds behind all this is Doctor Richard Blackaby.
You know, Richard, thanks for being with us here. First off, today,
thank you for being with us. But this whole issue
of identity in Christ, you know, you can sit there
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and read bullet points about who you are in Christ.
But until those move from almost like print on a
page to imprint our heart, they're just words, aren't they, Richard?
S7 (21:30):
Exactly. You know, that's why my dad wanted to go
from not just knowing God, but experiencing him because he said,
people know a lot about God, but it's not a
reality yet. It's just something they know in their head.
S3 (21:42):
Why do you think that is such a disconnect? Because
I think that that is the lived experience of so
many people that they know a lot. They've acquired a
lot of knowledge, but it does feel sort of disconnected
from their day to day reality.
S7 (21:53):
We have this sense that if we know about something,
that we're actually experiencing it, that it's a reality in
our life. And boy, I tell you, if Christians were
just experiencing everything they already knew in their head, the
the world would be turned upside down.
S2 (22:07):
How do we close that gap? Then? Let's get really practical,
by the way, with us right now. Doctor Richard Blackaby. Yep.
Richard is president of Blackaby Ministries International. And the impact
of this ministry is profound. I mean, around the globe.
Translated into many languages. So how do we close that gap, Richard?
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And I think this is part and parcel of our
challenge here. We've got a lot of church attenders, but
very few disciples or disciple makers. What is key? What
are we missing?
S7 (22:39):
Well, you know, when it comes to discipleship, I think
disciples are people who follow Jesus. Uh, they're not people
who attend church. They're not people who believe in God.
They're not good people. They're people who actually follow a person.
Christianity is not a doctrine. Primarily, it's a relationship. It's
a relationship with a person. And that's what experiencing God did.
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It reminded people that it's all about a relationship with
a person. It's not just a title. You don't just
call yourself a Christian. You don't just believe a certain
set of doctrines. You actually start following a person and
relating to him, and that changes everything.
S3 (23:14):
Richard Blackaby, our guest right now, talk a little bit
about growing up. And, you know, obviously a very spiritually
rich environment. Your dad, Henry and your mom, Marilyn Blackaby,
talk a little bit about what that was like for you. Obviously,
no families are perfect, but you had the benefit of
really growing up in such a rich environment, how did
that shape you?
S7 (23:34):
Yeah. You know, we were a very ordinary home, a
very ordinary house family. But I'll tell you what. My
parents acted and lived like God was real. And we
were constantly being told to connect what was happening in
our world with what God was doing. So if we
came home and had a bad day at school, or
we're facing a big test or we didn't have money
for something, my dad would always put it back in
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terms of our relationship with God. He'd say, well, so
what is God saying about that? How is God providing?
If we came with a problem, he'd say, well, have
you asked God about that? And we'd keep saying, well,
you know, I believe in God. But I mean, this
is this is real life. This is practical. Yeah. And
my dad would say, well, nothing is more real life
than God go to him. And he just refused to
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take the place of God in our life. And so
it just made God real to us even as we
were growing up as kids.
S2 (24:23):
You know, I remember listening to your dad at a
seminar many years ago, and I believe he's one of
the first ones that ever spoke it in a way
that I understood it, he said. We're talking a lot
to God, but we aren't really taking the time to
hear his voice. How much of this relationship with God
is lost because we aren't listening to him?
S7 (24:46):
Well, imagine any other human relationship. Imagine a marriage where
you did all the talking, you know. Tell me how
great of a relationship that would be. It stinks. It's
all about interactive and and for a lot of people.
And that's when people took experience in God. One of
the first things they said was I was never taught
that God actually spoke back. I just said my prayers
every day. I just recited all the things I wanted
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him to do. But it never occurred to me that
he might actually have some things he wanted to say
to me, and that just revolutionized people's relationship. And when
you realize when you talk about identity that you actually
are in a loving relationship with the person who created
the universe and that he actually wants to spend time
with you, you can't tell me that you're not a
significant person if God wants to spend time with you.
S3 (25:32):
Doctor Richard Blackaby. Our guest right now, and I know
you regularly work with Christian CEOs of fortune 500 companies.
You speak nationally on leadership. What's the biggest identity thing?
I mean, not too broad of a brush, but there's
some commonality in terms of the identity issues that high
achieving Christians, those who've been maybe walking with God for
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a long time. But what's the identity piece that's often
still missing?
S7 (25:56):
Well, you know, we're always letting someone else tell us
who we are. Whether it's our kids that we grew up,
you know, our parents that told us we were the
smart one, the pretty one, the whatever, the rebel. Maybe
kids at school, maybe it was our boss. But I
think the problem is, and I've known people that were
literally billionaires who were still deep down, trying to prove
to their dad that they weren't a loser. And it's like,
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you've earned billions. Like you're very successful. You're still trying
to convince someone who's dead now that you're a worthwhile person.
And it's amazing to me because people could be very
successful and yet still their identity is being driven by,
you know, their childhood experiences in their home. And, and
I would say God wants to set you free from that.
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God wants to set your identity. He wants to say
your your mind. You're my child. You're loved by me,
and I walk with you daily. That's your identity, not
what some bully said to you when you were in
middle school.
S2 (26:51):
Okay, let's break this down. Let's get really practical here, Richard,
because the conviction that I have that I've stumbled upon
after now decades of being a pastor, is that we
have introduced a level of disciplines that has actually launched
us into a relationship with God that is very transactional.
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So here's what I mean. Praying, Bible study, church attendance, serving,
giving all those things. But we've left out some of
the most essential disciplines, which is modeled by Jesus quietness. Solitude, Attitude. Introspection.
David's prayer. Search me. Know me. Try me when I
say that to you. What do you say? What's your
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experience telling you?
S7 (27:35):
Well, two things. One is the disciplines are great, but
they are a means. They're not an end. And I
see a lot of people that use disciplines as an end.
It's like, I'm going to do my Bible reading today.
I'm going to save my prayers today. I'm going to
make myself do all these things that Christians are supposed
to do. But that's not a relationship. You don't enter
into a relationship with a discipline. You enter a relationship
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with a person and you see the disciplines are things
we can control. We get up every day and decide, okay,
I'm going to spend 30 minutes reading my Bible. I'm
not going to spend any time in quiet because I
don't really like that anyway. I'm an extrovert, so I'll
lean over here. But we're in charge, right? We're calling
all the shots. You're right. But when you relate to
a person who's far superior to you, who's your creator, well,
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then he calls the shots and he may lead you
into quiet. He may lead you into meditation or into fasting,
things that you wouldn't normally gravitate toward yourself. He's the
one in charge, then, but often we're still in charge
of our disciplines, and so we sort of customize them
into the ones we like, and we avoid the ones
we don't like, but we're still in charge. When you
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start to relate to God, you're not in charge anymore.
People will say, well, I you know, I did my
quiet time, then I was done or I prayed till
I was finished. And sometimes I'll say, well, was God finished?
Good word. Did God release you or were you just done?
I suspect if we waited till God released us from
our quiet times, we might spend a bit more time
doing them.
S2 (29:00):
Yeah. And and realize oftentimes we compartmentalize quiet times. And
so we got quiet time and hope that the fumes
of that carries on. But the fact is, I mean,
all our time can be with God. All right. Personal
question what's God showing you lately in the quiet places?
S7 (29:15):
Well, to slow down, for one thing, I'm a type
A driven person, and I like to get a lot done.
I'm a hard worker, but God is saying I can
get more done walking slowly with him, quietly with him
than I can, running 90 miles an hour at a
frenetic pace. And I mean, some people need to speed
it up. But for me, people like me, I think
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slowing down is an act of faith to say, I'm
going to trust God with this. But sometimes for me,
just slowing down, I miss too much of God. Again,
you sometimes you can feel like your work is the relationship.
But God didn't call me to work. He called me
to abide and he said, apart from him, I could
do nothing. I'm having to learn that that charging off
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and getting a lot done is not the essence of
the Christian life. It is staying as close to Christ
as I possibly can. And when you do that, stuff
just happens. Fruit just appears and you bear fruit and
you don't even know how it happened. You just were
staying close to Jesus. And I think that's the secret
to really abundant, full Christian life.
S3 (30:18):
Wow. If you got nothing else out of this conversation,
I hope you grabbed on to that last little bit.
S2 (30:22):
It. That's.
S3 (30:23):
Wow.
S2 (30:23):
That's the payoff.
S3 (30:24):
That is the payoff. And if you want more from
Doctor Richard Blackaby, he has a blog that I want
to point you to. More on abiding with Christ. Abiding
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Why are you dancing? What's happening with those shoulders?
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They're moving. They're moving. Sometimes you got to move it.
Move it. Sometimes you just got to do it. It's
not even a dad dance. I try to emulate Ali.
I try to, I try to do everything. You know, as.
S3 (31:02):
Far as dance moves go, I think super die is
the one who's leading. We want to follow, no doubt
because of the dancing crew.
S2 (31:08):
Yeah, but she won't. She hasn't. We need to do
another choreographed video. We need to do.
S3 (31:12):
Do we.
S2 (31:13):
Do remember that one we did back yonder? Yeah. Back when?
Back when we all felt a little more spry.
S3 (31:20):
Super die choreographed a little eight count for us, and
one of the four of us nailed it. And her
name was Superdog. The rest of us did our best.
S5 (31:29):
Hey, great. That was good.
S3 (31:32):
Come on, Carl. We did our best.
S2 (31:34):
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You know, if you're new listening to us here. I
was blown away a number of years ago now, and
I saw the words of Jesus where he said, it
is to your advantage that I go, because the Holy
Spirit will come, the Comforter, and He will guide you,
ultimately guide you into all truth. And what a what
an amazing what an amazing thing. By the way, if
you want the biggest bodies of teaching on the Holy Spirit,
(00:31):
it's John 14, John 16, and Romans eight. That is,
you want the comprehensive deal. That's it. You can go
to First Corinthians and find teaching on the power of
the Holy Spirit. And yet those are more corrective in
nature rather than instructive in nature. But the most illumination
about the power of the Holy Spirit is what Jesus
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tells his disciples. He says, it's to your advantage that
I go. It's just when I saw that, I'm like,
hold the phone, Charlie Brown. If it's to our advantage
that Jesus is gone, maybe we ought to plumb the
depths of that advantage. Ali.
S3 (01:09):
If you have an advantage, you want to take it.
S2 (01:14):
Oh, what's that game where they have an advantage? What
is that survivor advantage.
S3 (01:19):
Like I don't know.
S2 (01:21):
Yeah, that that reality show that barely made it. What
are they on their 48th season advantage?
S4 (01:26):
I think they are season 40 something.
S3 (01:27):
Something like that.
S2 (01:28):
Yeah yeah yeah. It's it's really cool. And boy, sometimes
wake up in the morning we go yeah, yeah I
got I have one advantage please. Uh, right over here.
S3 (01:40):
You know my, my son plays travel basketball and he
recently had showed up to a game and only there
were only four kids on his team that showed up
for the start of the team for the start of
the game. So the other team had a one person advantage.
S4 (01:54):
And.
S3 (01:54):
Got to play five on four. Jeez, So.
S2 (01:58):
Did they hold them off? That's kind of.
S3 (01:59):
Fun, though, you know? I mean, halftime, they got their
fifth guy to show up, and then they could at
least be even. But for a whole half they were
down one man and had to like if you got
the advantage, take it.
S5 (02:12):
But cam, I could just see his little heart like, oh,
he said.
S3 (02:16):
They just kept trapping me at half court. They just
kept sending two at me and there was no one open.
S2 (02:22):
Well, no, I mean that's the that's actually wise defense.
When you're up one, you go to the guard.
S3 (02:27):
You're using your advantage. Yeah. Use the advantage.
S4 (02:31):
Man.
S2 (02:32):
Yeah. And the other subplot there is the kids sitting
in the stands going, dad, there's a team. I actually
wouldn't have to fill the bench on.
S3 (02:39):
I'd be a starter right away.
S2 (02:41):
Dad, sign me up for these guys. They seem to
not have enough personnel.
S3 (02:46):
They're undermanned today.
S4 (02:47):
It's crazy.
S2 (02:48):
Why is it that that happens? When my son was
playing ball and not at the AAU level? Everybody shows up,
suited up, ready to go. But in junior high and
even early on in high school. He had a couple
of games he started. There's four guys on the court.
S3 (03:00):
And you're going, can we get everybody to show up?
And then you got to you're running around like like
crazy men just trying to trying to not be overwhelmed.
S2 (03:11):
Yeah, it's it's crazy. So when you when you got
an advantage when you're one up but you don't use
it because that'd be a real loss. You find out
the opposition's got four and you say, well, let's just
play with four. No, if you got an advantage, take it, man.
S3 (03:29):
Use the advantage.
S2 (03:30):
Get them on the court. Uh, you know, sometimes we
wake up in the morning, we go, man, do we
need an advantage in rough news coming out of DC?
We're going to break it down for you.
S1 (03:40):
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Super di is in the crew. It's Carl and crew
on Moody Radio.
S2 (03:51):
Well, for us to speculate, postulate Cogitate commentate on some news,
it would be futile. And I mean that. I'm not
trying to be cute here. There's some things that we
need to bring in, and this is one of the
things we tried to do here with Karl and Cruz.
Bring in experts that actually have a way better handle
on what's going on. Doctor Mitch Glazer is one of them, right? Ali.
S3 (04:12):
Yeah, from Chosen People Ministries. If you follow the news
at all, you've likely heard about the murder that happened outside.
Was it the Israel, the embassy?
S4 (04:22):
Uh, no, it was outside of a museum.
S3 (04:24):
The museum last night in DC. Let's get Doctor Mitch
Glazer from Chosen People Ministries to weigh in. Coming up.
S1 (04:29):
He's a sports fanatic with a stat for anything you
can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's
Karl and crew on Moody Radio.
S2 (04:40):
Precious young couple gunned down in cold blood last night
in Washington, DC at a Jewish museum by a man
when he was arrested, was yelling free, free Palestine, free,
free Palestine. What's going on, Mitch Glazer? He's with us
right now, president of Chosen People Ministries. What was your
(05:02):
first initial response when you heard this news?
S6 (05:05):
Well, like you, Carl, I got up pretty early in
the morning and, uh, found out about it immediately contacted
our chosen people Ministry staff in Israel and to see
how they were doing. I found out quite a bit
about the couple if you wanted me to share some
of that.
S2 (05:24):
Yeah, it's a precious story, actually. They were going to
be engaged in Jerusalem this week, right?
S6 (05:29):
They were. But what some people may not know is
that your own lozinski was a believer in Jesus.
S2 (05:37):
Oh he was.
S6 (05:40):
So this is the horrific murder of a young, dynamic
Messianic Jewish person, uh, with a godly family in Israel.
And I would imagine I can't say too much at
this time because it would be too personal. I know
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for sure that he was was a believer. It looks
pretty clear that his fiancée was as well.
S3 (06:09):
Wow. Doctor Mitch Glazer is with Chosen People Ministries, one
of the oldest and largest messianic missions in the United States.
Doctor Glazer, we have seen a resurgence in anti-Semitism, particularly
since October 7th. This is often called the world's oldest hatred.
Give us a picture of what this new anti-Semitism looks like.
S6 (06:33):
Well, this new anti-Semitism is dressed up in alleged political clothing. And, uh,
from the name of the assailant, it doesn't seem like
necessarily that he is an Arab or Palestinian himself. And
so it's possible that he's one of those who has
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been influenced by all of the propaganda against Israel and
against the Jewish people, and up until that's been coming
out recently, in light of what I think is a
defensive action on Israel's part, after the attack of October 7th,
we had a major conference at Moody Bible Institute last
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fall that Carl was part of and where we were
able to shine a light on those issues and, and
help people see that there is an underlying anti-Semitism that's
floating around the globe that is expressing itself in political terms,
but it goes far deeper than that. And recent surveys
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have also indicated that anti-Semitism is is on the rise,
not only in the United States, but unfortunately, we've demonstrated
that it's on the rise across the pond in England
and in Ireland for sure. Australia. And so many of these, uh,
individuals who are allegedly taking a political stand against the
(08:02):
modern state of Israel and their pursuit of their enemies
who attack them on October 7th. We do see that
there is an underlying anti-Semitism that is coming to the
surface now. And this is the first murder shooting directly
at close range. She knew exactly what he was doing.
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Of Jewish people. There were a couple of shootings at
synagogues a few years ago. We thought that that may
have died down, but obviously it has not. And so
we are living in very dangerous times, which means my
brothers and sisters in Christ need to be praying for
the peace of Jerusalem and for the protection of the
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Jewish people. And I know as a messianic Jew and
maybe speaking on behalf of many of the Messianic Jews
who are who are listening and who are part of
the body of Messiah all across the United States. I
know that all of us would appreciate your prayers.
S2 (09:02):
Yeah, and we're going to do that before we're done here.
Doctor Mitch Glazer, our guest right now, president of Chosen
People Ministries. Good man of God, great man, got a
great sense of humor. He's an absolute character I love Mitch.
What a guy. I wish I could have more time
with you, brother. You look at situations like you look
like situations like this, and, you know, I don't want
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to read too much into it, but this. There's a
radicalization that is happening on college campuses that has a
heavy dose of irony. These were campuses here in the
last decade that stood up for people that felt microaggressions.
They would draw circles and safe spaces. And yet these
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same proponents Sense of protecting. Microaggressions are the same voices
that are speaking loudly. I'm not saying they're promoting murder,
but they're speaking loudly for terrorist groups. There has to be.
You can't ignore a demonic, spiritually demonic influence going on here, Mitch,
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because it goes beyond common sense, my brother.
S6 (10:14):
It is. I mean, I would speak directly to the
Jewish issue, Carl, because God made a covenant with Abraham,
promised a people, a land and a future for Israel,
and even gave the geographic boundaries of the land of
Israel in Genesis 15. And now we see that there
are movements that are becoming more and more overt in
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their anti-Semitism and Anti-israelism and under the guise, I think,
sometimes of political radicalism. Carl, I was a young, unsaved
Jewish hippie.
S2 (10:54):
Yeah.
S6 (10:55):
In the late 60s and early 70s. And I was
I was at Columbia with some of those. Right when
those riots were taking place. And, uh, there was a
different feel to those riots than what's happening today. Those
were kids searching for peace. And but these today, these
today are smaller, actually, but more radical and more vicious. And, uh,
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there's a darkness to it. Carl. And so I think
that it, it shows a certain Satanic involvement with what's
happening on campus. And obviously it's not. And this is
one of the big deals about the shooting call. It's
it's not just campus. It just moved off campus in
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the most violent of ways. And so this is we
need to take notice of this. I think that the
landscape changed last night with the shooting of this precious couple.
S3 (11:53):
Doctor Mitch Glazer, Chosen People Ministries with us right now.
Doctor Glazer, what are some of the lies that are
being told about Israel that you believe are sort of
cultivating this acceptance of anti-Semitism and of hatred of the
Jewish people in general?
S6 (12:10):
Number one, I think, is the accusation of genocide. That's
a false charge. We've already demonstrated that this charge of genocide,
which was brought before the International Criminal Court by South Africa,
that was then supported by Ireland, 16% of Irish, quote unquote,
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Christians in a recent survey were favorable towards Israel. Let
me redefine that. That means almost 75% were not. And
so I think there's an underlying anti-Semitism in all of
these all of these issues. And so I think that
genocide is is terrible, of course. But Israel was not
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committing genocide. Israel was trying to defend itself. And every,
every couple of hours, even over the last few days,
maybe 2 or 3 times a day, actually, maybe more.
I get emails, I mean, WhatsApp messages from our staff
saying sheltering, sheltering, sheltering because missiles are coming in not
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just from the Houthis, but from still from Gaza. And
so this this war is not over. So where's the genocide?
Who's attacking a nation of innocents? It's not Israel who's
attacking a nation of innocents. There's military action, terrorist actions
against Israel. Israel is defending itself. So that's a false charge.
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And it's a very serious false charge.
S2 (13:39):
We're going to pray here in just a moment, Mitch.
What are the most responsible biblical responses to something like
this for a Christ follower. What do you say?
S6 (13:52):
I've got three P's for you. Call. I'm an old
Baptist preacher, you know, even though I'm Jewish, you know.
So the first one is to pray. Pray for the
peace of Jerusalem. Psalm 122, verse six. They will prosper
who love thee. It's prayer with a promise. Uh. God
chose Abraham, chose the Jewish people, has great plans. First
coming came through the Jewish people. Second coming will come
(14:14):
when the Jewish people turn to Christ. Just look at
Romans 1111 through the end of the chapter. There's no
doubt that Satan is trying to destroy the Jewish people
because he wants to destroy the Messiah and he hates God.
And so, uh, this is a very important thing, uh,
to see. And the antidote to a spirit, the best
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weapon in a spiritual battle is prayer and the word
of God. And so we have to fight, like, with,
like we're fighting a spiritual battle. We need to be
on our knees. So that's prayer. Number two is to preserve.
And we have to understand that we have an obligation
as Christians to help preserve the Jewish people. God said
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to Abraham, I will bless those who bless thee, curse
those who curse thee. And so God wants us preserve
the Jewish people. And the third little pea is, I believe,
grows out of these first two. And that's to protect
Christians need to be able to protect the Jewish people.
We had a rally in New York, and we had
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an Australian Jewish believer who said something that I will
never forget, and that is we need to let the
pro-Palestinian protesters and those who hate the Jewish people know
that in order to get to the Jewish people, they
have to first get through the church.
S2 (15:38):
Yeah. Powerful.
S6 (15:39):
So Christians can protect the Jewish people. If you see
it locally, handle it. If you hear about it globally,
pray about it. Stand against it. Use your social media
in a positive way. Pray. Preserve. Protect the Jewish people.
And that will be an incredible testimony, by the way,
(15:59):
to your Jewish friends.
S2 (16:02):
Mitch, I love you. Let me do this right now. Father,
thank you that you hear our prayers. Our prayers right
now are not without power. We do not serve a
God who has hands that cannot move and feet that
cannot walk. You are able and Lord, in your providence
and power we ask you to thwart evil. We ask
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in the name of Jesus. And we speak in the
name of Jesus. The Lord rebuke you, Satan, you have
no authority here. And Lord, we do pray. We do preserve.
We do protect. And we thank you that you are good.
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We thank you that you have emotions of weeping over
people without a shepherd. And you extend a hand to
every person, even this young man who took the lives
of this precious couple last night in DC. And you're
reaching out and offering him today life in Christ Jesus. And, Lord,
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I give you thanks today. It calms our heart to
know that we can talk to the God of the universe.
And so we pray. Peace over Jerusalem, peace in this world.
And we know that that day will come when the
Prince of Peace will arrive. And everything will be brought
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into balance. But until then, Lord, we pray, as you've
called us to pray in Jesus name. Amen.
S3 (17:46):
Amen.
S6 (17:47):
Thank you, Brother Carl. I love you too. And let's
all remember to pray for the family of Daniel and Sarah.
S2 (17:54):
We will do that. We will do that.
S6 (17:56):
That was that was murdered. Yeah.
S2 (17:58):
Thank you, Mitch, for coming in here this morning.
S3 (18:00):
Doctor Mitch Glazer was our guest this morning. If you
want more, just go to chosen PEOPLE.com. Go to PEOPLE.com.
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God showed her she didn't have to. Ali is in
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We are rolling on Carl and crew, helping you take
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them if you don't abide with him. In this proximity
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needs to know this. You can come as you are
and experience God right now. God and the power of
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the resurrection is still cooking here today. By the way, folks,
the tomb is still empty. It's not one day that
we celebrate the empty tomb. It's like three 6524 over seven.
S3 (18:51):
Yes.
S2 (18:53):
Oh, so God wants to help you overcome what seems
impossible and live as you never imagined. Those are realities.
And we are sold out to them here with Carl
and crew. And sometimes you hear things like you just
heard from Mitch Glazer. And here's what I believe. I
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mainly because of the three P's. If you didn't hear
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Yeah, grateful for you being here this morning, guys. Lots
to pray for in our world today. And we're not
done yet. Coming up we're going to be tackling this
identity thing from a posture of discipline. What do we need?
S1 (19:43):
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What do you believe to be true about yourself? If
you had to pin down your identity? Who are you?
It's easy to start to pin on. I am this
based on your family, based on your job, based on
your accomplishments. But who are you in Christ? It's so
important that we have our identity in Christ fixed and rooted.
(20:15):
We're going to get some help with this with Doctor
Richard Blackaby joining us. Coming up.
S1 (20:19):
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S2 (20:25):
Well, we've been tackling identity in Christ and identity in Christ.
I think it was popularized probably by Neil Anderson in.
S3 (20:34):
Okay.
S2 (20:35):
Uh, I think Neil probably popularized this, but, boy, when
he began to speak of the power of identity to
overcome so much stuff in this broken and fallen world,
it really created an avalanche of teaching on this. And
one of the most incredible Bible studies ever is experiencing God,
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finding where God is working and join him. I mean,
come on, that's just I mean, you just lift that
from the heart and the pulse of experiencing God. And
one of those minds behind all this is Doctor Richard Blackaby.
You know, Richard, thanks for being with us here. First off, today,
thank you for being with us. But this whole issue
of identity in Christ, you know, you can sit there
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and read bullet points about who you are in Christ.
But until those move from almost like print on a
page to imprint our heart, they're just words, aren't they, Richard?
S7 (21:30):
Exactly. You know, that's why my dad wanted to go
from not just knowing God, but experiencing him because he said,
people know a lot about God, but it's not a
reality yet. It's just something they know in their head.
S3 (21:42):
Why do you think that is such a disconnect? Because
I think that that is the lived experience of so
many people that they know a lot. They've acquired a
lot of knowledge, but it does feel sort of disconnected
from their day to day reality.
S7 (21:53):
We have this sense that if we know about something,
that we're actually experiencing it, that it's a reality in
our life. And boy, I tell you, if Christians were
just experiencing everything they already knew in their head, the
the world would be turned upside down.
S2 (22:07):
How do we close that gap? Then? Let's get really practical,
by the way, with us right now. Doctor Richard Blackaby. Yep.
Richard is president of Blackaby Ministries International. And the impact
of this ministry is profound. I mean, around the globe.
Translated into many languages. So how do we close that gap, Richard?
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And I think this is part and parcel of our
challenge here. We've got a lot of church attenders, but
very few disciples or disciple makers. What is key? What
are we missing?
S7 (22:39):
Well, you know, when it comes to discipleship, I think
disciples are people who follow Jesus. Uh, they're not people
who attend church. They're not people who believe in God.
They're not good people. They're people who actually follow a person.
Christianity is not a doctrine. Primarily, it's a relationship. It's
a relationship with a person. And that's what experiencing God did.
(23:00):
It reminded people that it's all about a relationship with
a person. It's not just a title. You don't just
call yourself a Christian. You don't just believe a certain
set of doctrines. You actually start following a person and
relating to him, and that changes everything.
S3 (23:14):
Richard Blackaby, our guest right now, talk a little bit
about growing up. And, you know, obviously a very spiritually
rich environment. Your dad, Henry and your mom, Marilyn Blackaby,
talk a little bit about what that was like for you. Obviously,
no families are perfect, but you had the benefit of
really growing up in such a rich environment, how did
that shape you?
S7 (23:34):
Yeah. You know, we were a very ordinary home, a
very ordinary house family. But I'll tell you what. My
parents acted and lived like God was real. And we
were constantly being told to connect what was happening in
our world with what God was doing. So if we
came home and had a bad day at school, or
we're facing a big test or we didn't have money
for something, my dad would always put it back in
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terms of our relationship with God. He'd say, well, so
what is God saying about that? How is God providing?
If we came with a problem, he'd say, well, have
you asked God about that? And we'd keep saying, well,
you know, I believe in God. But I mean, this
is this is real life. This is practical. Yeah. And
my dad would say, well, nothing is more real life
than God go to him. And he just refused to
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take the place of God in our life. And so
it just made God real to us even as we
were growing up as kids.
S2 (24:23):
You know, I remember listening to your dad at a
seminar many years ago, and I believe he's one of
the first ones that ever spoke it in a way
that I understood it, he said. We're talking a lot
to God, but we aren't really taking the time to
hear his voice. How much of this relationship with God
is lost because we aren't listening to him?
S7 (24:46):
Well, imagine any other human relationship. Imagine a marriage where
you did all the talking, you know. Tell me how
great of a relationship that would be. It stinks. It's
all about interactive and and for a lot of people.
And that's when people took experience in God. One of
the first things they said was I was never taught
that God actually spoke back. I just said my prayers
every day. I just recited all the things I wanted
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him to do. But it never occurred to me that
he might actually have some things he wanted to say
to me, and that just revolutionized people's relationship. And when
you realize when you talk about identity that you actually
are in a loving relationship with the person who created
the universe and that he actually wants to spend time
with you, you can't tell me that you're not a
significant person if God wants to spend time with you.
S3 (25:32):
Doctor Richard Blackaby. Our guest right now, and I know
you regularly work with Christian CEOs of fortune 500 companies.
You speak nationally on leadership. What's the biggest identity thing?
I mean, not too broad of a brush, but there's
some commonality in terms of the identity issues that high
achieving Christians, those who've been maybe walking with God for
(25:52):
a long time. But what's the identity piece that's often
still missing?
S7 (25:56):
Well, you know, we're always letting someone else tell us
who we are. Whether it's our kids that we grew up,
you know, our parents that told us we were the
smart one, the pretty one, the whatever, the rebel. Maybe
kids at school, maybe it was our boss. But I
think the problem is, and I've known people that were
literally billionaires who were still deep down, trying to prove
to their dad that they weren't a loser. And it's like,
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you've earned billions. Like you're very successful. You're still trying
to convince someone who's dead now that you're a worthwhile person.
And it's amazing to me because people could be very
successful and yet still their identity is being driven by,
you know, their childhood experiences in their home. And, and
I would say God wants to set you free from that.
(26:38):
God wants to set your identity. He wants to say
your your mind. You're my child. You're loved by me,
and I walk with you daily. That's your identity, not
what some bully said to you when you were in
middle school.
S2 (26:51):
Okay, let's break this down. Let's get really practical here, Richard,
because the conviction that I have that I've stumbled upon
after now decades of being a pastor, is that we
have introduced a level of disciplines that has actually launched
us into a relationship with God that is very transactional.
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So here's what I mean. Praying, Bible study, church attendance, serving,
giving all those things. But we've left out some of
the most essential disciplines, which is modeled by Jesus quietness. Solitude, Attitude. Introspection.
David's prayer. Search me. Know me. Try me when I
say that to you. What do you say? What's your
(27:34):
experience telling you?
S7 (27:35):
Well, two things. One is the disciplines are great, but
they are a means. They're not an end. And I
see a lot of people that use disciplines as an end.
It's like, I'm going to do my Bible reading today.
I'm going to save my prayers today. I'm going to
make myself do all these things that Christians are supposed
to do. But that's not a relationship. You don't enter
into a relationship with a discipline. You enter a relationship
(27:57):
with a person and you see the disciplines are things
we can control. We get up every day and decide, okay,
I'm going to spend 30 minutes reading my Bible. I'm
not going to spend any time in quiet because I
don't really like that anyway. I'm an extrovert, so I'll
lean over here. But we're in charge, right? We're calling
all the shots. You're right. But when you relate to
a person who's far superior to you, who's your creator, well,
(28:19):
then he calls the shots and he may lead you
into quiet. He may lead you into meditation or into fasting,
things that you wouldn't normally gravitate toward yourself. He's the
one in charge, then, but often we're still in charge
of our disciplines, and so we sort of customize them
into the ones we like, and we avoid the ones
we don't like, but we're still in charge. When you
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start to relate to God, you're not in charge anymore.
People will say, well, I you know, I did my
quiet time, then I was done or I prayed till
I was finished. And sometimes I'll say, well, was God finished?
Good word. Did God release you or were you just done?
I suspect if we waited till God released us from
our quiet times, we might spend a bit more time
doing them.
S2 (29:00):
Yeah. And and realize oftentimes we compartmentalize quiet times. And
so we got quiet time and hope that the fumes
of that carries on. But the fact is, I mean,
all our time can be with God. All right. Personal
question what's God showing you lately in the quiet places?
S7 (29:15):
Well, to slow down, for one thing, I'm a type
A driven person, and I like to get a lot done.
I'm a hard worker, but God is saying I can
get more done walking slowly with him, quietly with him
than I can, running 90 miles an hour at a
frenetic pace. And I mean, some people need to speed
it up. But for me, people like me, I think
(29:38):
slowing down is an act of faith to say, I'm
going to trust God with this. But sometimes for me,
just slowing down, I miss too much of God. Again,
you sometimes you can feel like your work is the relationship.
But God didn't call me to work. He called me
to abide and he said, apart from him, I could
do nothing. I'm having to learn that that charging off
(29:59):
and getting a lot done is not the essence of
the Christian life. It is staying as close to Christ
as I possibly can. And when you do that, stuff
just happens. Fruit just appears and you bear fruit and
you don't even know how it happened. You just were
staying close to Jesus. And I think that's the secret
to really abundant, full Christian life.
S3 (30:18):
Wow. If you got nothing else out of this conversation,
I hope you grabbed on to that last little bit.
S2 (30:22):
It. That's.
S3 (30:23):
Wow.
S2 (30:23):
That's the payoff.
S3 (30:24):
That is the payoff. And if you want more from
Doctor Richard Blackaby, he has a blog that I want
to point you to. More on abiding with Christ. Abiding
in Christ text walk to 855 five 7898. Walk to
855 five 7898.
S1 (30:41):
It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
S3 (30:45):
Why are you dancing? What's happening with those shoulders?
S2 (30:49):
They're moving. They're moving. Sometimes you got to move it.
Move it. Sometimes you just got to do it. It's
not even a dad dance. I try to emulate Ali.
I try to, I try to do everything. You know, as.
S3 (31:02):
Far as dance moves go, I think super die is
the one who's leading. We want to follow, no doubt
because of the dancing crew.
S2 (31:08):
Yeah, but she won't. She hasn't. We need to do
another choreographed video. We need to do.
S3 (31:12):
Do we.
S2 (31:13):
Do remember that one we did back yonder? Yeah. Back when?
Back when we all felt a little more spry.
S3 (31:20):
Super die choreographed a little eight count for us, and
one of the four of us nailed it. And her
name was Superdog. The rest of us did our best.
S5 (31:29):
Hey, great. That was good.
S3 (31:32):
Come on, Carl. We did our best.
S2 (31:34):
We did. We gave it. We gave it a good shot. Uh,
speaking of good shot, we got a really good one
coming up here. I want to give it to you.
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You got it.
S2 (31:48):
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us and here's why. Thank you. Because we've got a
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