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August 16, 2024 • 40 mins

Ever tried to pay for strawberry pancakes with an HSA card? We know someone who did, and it led to a hilarious discovery about the peculiarities of health savings accounts! Join us for quirky anecdotes and heartfelt discussions as we navigate life. Moose shares her first official experience with the virus, and we compare this outbreak to past ones, touching on new concerns like AFib. Plus, listener and friend Amanda brings us a bizarre yet entertaining update about a school district employee who stole $1.5 million of chicken wings.

Relationships can be a minefield of red and green flags. We dive into our personal experiences, from people who dislike dogs to the annoyance of constant movie quotes. Through laughter and reflections, we explore how past traumas and personal biases shape our perceptions of others. Our lively conversation will resonate with anyone navigating the complexities of relationships, offering relatable examples and heartfelt insights. Whether you're single, dating, or in a long-term relationship, there's something to laugh about and learn from here.

We also tackle the often awkward topic of personal red flags and their impact on social interactions. From impatience to the challenge of balancing big energy in social settings, we discuss it all with humor and honesty. And just when you think it couldn't get any funnier, we reminisce about vibrators being sold at Target and our youthful visits to adult stores. Wrapping up, we reflect on societal attitudes towards sexual health products, aiming to bring humor and candidness to these often taboo subjects. Join us for laughs, heartfelt discussions, and quirky stories to keep you entertained and engaged!

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the cat and moose podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Kat and I'm Moose .
This is a true life podcastwhere we explore the quirks of
being human.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Kat say hi to the patrons.
Hello patrons, she's stuck onthe TV.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm stuck in the dual version of myself.
It's very uncomfortable.
It's very odd.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Here's what happened.
I got COVID, I gave it to Moose.
We don't want to give it to Kat.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Thanks, that's it.
Cheers to that, cheers.
You were saying before, moose,that you have had many
inquisitions.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Oh yeah, like the.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Spanish inquisition.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
This is my first official time having COVID.
I'm pretty sure I had it in2021, but I've never tested
positive until this time and somany people who were planning on
being around me or whatever youknow we're like or had been
around me is a better way to saythat we're like.
What day did you contract it?

(01:10):
When did you test positive?
Are you still shedding?
How many days are your symptoms?
I hate the word shedding.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
That's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Oh my God, shedding.
That is so gross, you guys.
But but yeah, and so, as muchas I appreciate those questions,
like it feels very much likeyou're in trouble for getting
the covid virus when people askthat yeah, right, and you're

(01:38):
like I look, I'm sick.
I don't even have the.
I don't even have the energy totell you about my symptoms or
anything else.
So you go Google.
Stay away from me as long asyou want to stay away from me,
but don't blame me if uh, if youget the sniffles too, because I
just saw one in 34 people inthe U?
S have COVID right now.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, it's, it's like it's, it's has, it has revamped
, like, it has like vamped up.
And the thing that I don'tunderstand is is it any worse
now than when it was, when theworld shut down in 2020?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
I don't think it's worse, by any means.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Do you think it's the same?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I have no idea.
I mean, I feel like 2020 and2021 was terrible.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
But it's like it makes me just wonder, like if
one in 34 people have COVID, whyaren't we shutting the world
down again?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I don't think it is as bad, from what I understand.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Apparently, this strain is kind of like a head
cold.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, but it also like something like this strain
also has.
I've been told by a medicalprofessional that this strain
has been known to cause AFib.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yes, somebody else told me that I started keeping
track of my heart.
So far, so good.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Great Good.
I'm glad you're well.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Thank you, hey.
A couple updates I want to telllisteners about.
If you listen to the Cat andMoose podcast on Spotify on your
mobile, you can now comment onthe episode and it goes directly
to us.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
That's so cool.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
So if you have a hard time keeping up with our
texting machine and our emailmachine, uh, if you're a spotify
listener to the podcast, youcan literally just type in a
comment directly to us.
It'll show up in public, so becareful what you share.
But, uh, that is an option nowyou're automatically agreeing

(03:45):
for your comment to be publiclyknown yeah, thank you, yeah,
thank you for the legal policythat you just yes, I'm so good
at that, yeah um, the otherthing I was going to share is,
if you aren't aware, we aredoing video podcasts now on
youtube, so if you're like, whoare these crazy fools?
I gotta see them.
Please go to our YouTubechannel.

(04:06):
We've had a ton of peoplesubscribe recently and it's been
really fun to see, and you toocan subscribe right now.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
You too, and YouTube we would love for you too, and
YouTube to subscribe.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
If.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
YouTube subscribed to our YouTube channel.
Can you imagine?
Can't imagine That'd be cool.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Also, speaking of listeners, we had someone write
in and give us an update aboutsomething that we talked about,
which we are low in the area offollow through.
We rate pretty low on that, soI would like to thank our
listener, amanda, for letting usknow about this, and this is
what she writes An update on thestory you shared on the podcast

(04:48):
New Illinois school districtteacher sentenced to nine years
in prison for stealing 1.5million worth of chicken wings.
Do you guys remember this story?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
No, oh my gosh, how could I?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
remember it's from a while ago, you guys, but we have
an up.
Our listeners are our interns.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
No, it does.
No, you guys are not interns.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
They're our research assistants, I mean Like they are
the boots on the ground for us.
I would prefer to call themresearch strategists.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Like I want to call them something that makes them
feel more than, rather than lessthan.
Okay, that's totally great.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
So our research strategist, amanda Syntheson.
So, 68-year-old Vera Liddellpulled off the chicken wing
heist from July 2020 to February2022.
Liddell would place orders forthe wings with a food provider
for the school district, buildthe district, but would then
keep the wings.

(05:51):
She ordered 11,000 cases ofwings.
What she loved her wings.
I love wings too, so I canappreciate this.
11,000 cases Cases I don't knowhow many were in a case, but we
knew it.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Let's just say it's like wine.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Let's say there's 12 servings which is probably 3
chicken tenders in a case, so 12, 24, 36.
That's a big tender.
Not tenders.
These are wings guys.
This is serious, like legitwing eaters.
These are wings guys.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
This is serious like legit wing eaters.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
These are the people that go to Buffalo Wild Wings.
I'm a fan.
So the heist took place duringthe pandemic, when schools were
closed, but some students wouldreceive meal kits sent to their
homes.
The scheme was revealed whensomeone at the district found
the invoices, which includedwings with bones, something that

(06:47):
is typically not served tostudents she liked the bone-in
wings.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
I was gonna say so, vera.
Vera is loving the bone-inchicken.
Jammers like that is awesome,that's awesome she wants the
real deal.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
so anyway, the point is she got nine years in prison
for stealing $1.5 million worthof chicken wings.
Oh my God Wow.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
I mean now, that's some punishment.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Amanda, that is like that is Intel, that is like high
level like you work for thesecret service Intel, like
that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, that's like next level stealing from kids.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
So here's what I would like to do is I would like
to consider let's pretend thatwe have any ability to pretend
that we're in Vera's body, Okay,and that we're sitting there in
jail and we know that for thenext nine years we're going to

(08:02):
be sitting there in jail becausewe stole 11 000 cases of
chicken tenders no wings, get itright wings they were in
trouble.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
The bone was in oh my gosh, maybe I have covid brain
fog so you're sitting therereading a book and you're like,
so here's the question.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
You eat your wings in jail.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Oh no, she can't wait to have another wing.
You think they're going to giveher wings in jail?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I don't think they give wings in jail.
They have bones.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Cause the bones could be used as like escape tools.
That's why they don't give themto children.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Correct.
I mean, if she had just gonewith chicken tenders, I think
she would have gotten away withthis.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, totally the minute they saw that there was a
bone in that wing.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
they were like somebody's stealing these wings.
Something is off here.
Something is off yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Vera, if you can receive phone calls in jail and
you'd be Let us know You'd bewilling to talk to the cat and
moose podcast about your crime.
We will re instigate ourinterview series.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Okay, cat, no joke, can you look up where she's
going to jail and I'll do therest?
Like, just deliver to me.
I mean she can get phone callsso I could probably write her a
letter and tell her hey, we'llpay for the.
I just, I really appreciate.
I don't think nine years isfair.

(09:31):
Yeah, cook, county jail cookcounty jail near chicago oh my
god, wow, good job so we'regonna set this thing up, we're
gonna set up a phone call areyou serious?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
are we really, because we're so good at follow
through.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I legitimately think Vera needs to tell her side of
the story 100%.
I want to hear her side of thestory Nine years is not okay,
that's a long time for chickenmeat.
It was $1.5 million worth,though.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Of bone-in chicken meat.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, and here's the thing that I'm curious about is
like if the hacker that hackedme last year received zero
punishment for absolutelywrecking my life and still to
this day I can't email myaccountant, like the person who

(10:25):
is in charge of my money, Ican't email her without it going
to her junk folder and thengetting like expelled out as if
it's from the dark web.
Yeah, there's no recourse forthis person and this woman stole
chicken wings.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, I mean, it's not a fair world.
It's not fair.
No, I agree.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Okay, so so check this out.
So the rule of 100, if youspend 100 hours a year in any
discipline, which is only 18minutes a day, you'd be better
than 95% of the world in thatdiscipline.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
You lost me at discipline.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
But it's kind of like the podcast right.
It's like somebody was talkingto me the other day about how
they were like now how long haveyou been doing your podcast?
And I was like four years everyweek.
I mean we've missed a few hereand there for things like COVID
and family deaths and thingslike that.
But it's like okay, like we'rereally consistent.
So we may be more consistentthan 95% of the population who

(11:40):
does podcasts.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
I don't think we're consistent.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Oh mean, you're gonna get two to three podcasts from
us a month.
But I mean it is literally like, uh, we're in a snow globe and
someone shook us up, and everytime we plan something it's like
oh well, you know, but we, weare definitely trying, like we

(12:04):
never go without actuallyrecording something.
So I'm with you.
So, yeah, this is my favoritething to do in the whole world.
Yes, me too Like this is itthis?
Is it?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I love my job and I love body work and all that kind
of stuff and this is my mostfavorite.
Like this is my most favoritething, and so I, I, I am with
you.
I'm with you 100, 100%.
So, um, something that happenedto me last week.
I, first of all, I am a hugelike.

(12:37):
This is a bit like a I'm a Jeanand Willie moment.
Okay, like I'm a huge fan,james purse are my pants.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
I'm a.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Jim and Willie are my t-shirts and my favorite
breakfast, nook is Hart's Cafein East Nashville.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
You know what?
You totally talked shit aboutthat place a few episodes ago I
probably did, and something hashappened.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
You did.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
You sat outside and you said how hot it was.
Oh well, I wasn't talking shitabout the place.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I was talking shit about how hot I was.
Okay, oh well.
I wasn't talking shit about theplace.
I was talking shit about howhot I was and how the people I
was meeting with seemed to havezero awareness of how hot it was
.
And then I realized they're notfat.
No, it's not fat either, it'salso raging hormones.

(13:25):
So God bless them.
Why would they have anawareness right so?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
anyway.
Did you have your estrogenpatch on?
That's the other question.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yes, yes, I did, and it's been doing great, it's been
doing really great.
So, anyway, I was at HeartsCafe having a meeting with a
client and like a third party,you know person that we work
with, and the woman that invitedus to have brunch with her
ordered their strawberrypancakes.
And their strawberry pancakesare like three huge ass pancakes
, like I'm talking like this big, yeah, like big pancakes with

(14:03):
like this strawberry compote ontop, which is basically like
strawberry preserves but heatedin the microwave, like it's like
so much strawberry sweetnessgoodness on top of her pancakes.
And so I ordered the avocadotoast, because that's my
favorite, I think it's the bestavocado toast in town and and my

(14:26):
client ordered the Brusselssprouts and some other thing
without cheese and stuff likethat.
So, anyway, we're sitting thereeating and it comes time for
the bill to come, and becausethis woman invited us to the
discussion, it was kind ofobvious that she was going to
pay for it, and so when theserver brought the bill, our

(14:48):
friend put down her card for itand the server came back and the
most horrific thing that we'veall experienced it at least once
in our life- is the server said

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I'm sorry this card didn't go through.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Your card was declined, yeah and so, of course
, like me and my client are likeit's OK, like we'll pay for it,
it's fine, you know, like wedidn't want this person to be
embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
It's awful.
It's OK that you're poor.
We got this one.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, yeah and so.
So then she goes wait a minute.
Wait a minute, it's OK.
I tried to pay with my HSA card.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Oh, that's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
She tried to pay for strawberry pancakes with her
health savings account card andI thought that was funny as shit
.
I thought that was so funny.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I didn't know.
I've never had an HSA account.
I always felt like that was for, like, rich people.
Um, cause, you know, you'relike oh, just put some money
over here and if you don't spendit it disappears.
And I'm like what Like.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Why would I do that?
No, mine doesn't.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
You have your own debit card just for like drugs
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, it basically is like it's like a credit card
and, at least in my experience,like I put like let's say that I
put $1,000 in my, in myhealthcare account, that card is
good for $1,000.
And after I spend the $1,000,it will be declined and the only
people that that like it willgo through for even if it I have

(16:27):
money there or not is like adoctor's office or a massage
therapist or like a you knowsomething that has to do with my
wellness, like my well-being.
Somehow the card magicallyknows from the chip or the
magnetic strip or whatever thatit's only for wellness and
health Wellness.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Wellness Wellness.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
And health, wellness and health.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Wellness and health, wellness and health, wellness,
wellness, wellness, wellness,wellness, wellness, wellness,
wellness, wellness, wellness.
So I just thought, I thought itwas really funny that her
healthcare card got declined forthe strawberry pancakes.
I just thought the irony inthat was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
So yeah, I think it's hilarious.
It took me a minute to figureout what HSA was, but I do think
it is very funny I'm sorry, katuh, if you heard people, and by
people I mean young peoplethese days have you heard?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
them.
I don't hang out with any ofthose.
Have you heard?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
them talk about um, red flags and green flags with
people.
I mean, you could probablyguess what they mean, but
basically the idea is like, iflike for you, a red flag might
be if somebody doesn't likeCeline Dion or something you'd
be like there's a red flag there, you know whether it's a
friendship or whatever.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
They don't like dogs, yeah, like that is a huge red
flag to me.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Me too yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, Um huge red flag to me.
Me too.
Yeah, yeah, um, I can literallythink of people in my life who
I love, but why don't you likeanimals?

Speaker 3 (17:54):
it makes no sense to me.
Yeah, like, how do you not likedog?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
well, and then I I also, if I can just insert
something here, um I also have afriend in my life who, at least
my understanding of herexperience, is that she grew up
being taught to be afraid ofanimals that could hurt her and
so, like the other day when shecame over, I said bell, bell,

(18:19):
so-and-so's here to see you, andshe froze up.
And that doesn't mean that shedoesn't like dogs.
It means that, like, her traumaresponse was to be still and
freeze up.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
You know and so to me she has an experience.
Yeah, To me that feelsdifferent than I don't like dogs
or maybe everybody who doesn'tlike dogs has had a bad
experience.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Okay, well, except for the people who've been
attacked by dogs, there'ssomething wrong with you if you
don't like that that's what I'mgetting at.
Um, that's not what cat'sgetting out, but that's what I'm
getting at.
So I was thinking about otherred flags like what are those
and what are green flags forpeople, and I was curious if you
guys had any thoughts off thetop of your head.

(19:04):
I'll share mine first, becausethat's what I do a red flag for
me is when people are quotingmovies all the time okay, why?
because okay, example you'relike, yeah, I don't know about

(19:25):
that.
And they'll be like, if peeingin your pants is cool, then I'm
Miles Davis and you're like,yeah, I don't know about that.
And they'll be like, if peeingin your pants is cool, then I'm
miles davis and you're like,what the hell did you just break
down?
And they're like, oh no, it'sfrom tommy boy.
You don't know.
That's from tommy boy.
Yeah, and like I, it's a redflag for me, like I'd never
gotten it, I've never understoodit.
It feels like an inside jokeand I, even if I was quick

(19:47):
enough, I would be annoyed by it.
So that's a red flag for me.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
I I have to tell you again I'm making it all about me
.
I'm I.
I don't know if you noticed ornot, but I'm learning a lesson
this week about I takeeverything very personally and
it's not.
It's not it's not about me, it'snothing, it's never you're just
learning that this week I am noI've been learning it for my

(20:14):
whole life and just this week itis like landing, like the plane
is landing and I'm going ohshit, it's really not about me
which is great, like that's.
It's a great awareness and um,I just want you to know that,
whether you meant it this way ornot, I feel so seen you don't
like movie quotes either.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I don't, I don't like them, because 99.9 of the time
I haven't seen the movie me too,and if I have seen the movie,
how the hell am I supposed toremember one line right?
And so that suggests to me thatyou are a multiple, you watch
movies multiple times.

(20:54):
I don't do that either yeah nowevery once in a while, if
twister is on yes, I will watchit.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
I mean Helen Hunt.
Will you quote it?

Speaker 2 (21:03):
yeah, I mean there's a handful, but I couldn't quote
anything from it.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I really couldn't.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
I think for me, I think movies.
I have no quotes from.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, I think for me, like I could list, on one hand,
I'm going to try, if that'sokay, um top gun, the sound of
music, flash dance, some kind ofwonderful.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I know about two of those.
Like you're going hard on the80s man.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, well, I guess what I'm saying is like those
are the only movies that I havewatched more than once that I
that I can.
Oh, the polar express.
I've seen the polar express.
I watch it like every christmas, and so those are like five
movies that I've seen more thanonce, and I may be on a good
mental clarity day can remembera quote from each one.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
What about, like Star Wars?
That's the worst is Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I love.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Star Wars.
I've seen Star Wars a lot too,but I don't have a ton of quotes
.
I mean, help me, obi-wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.
Help me, obi-wwan kenobi,you're my only hope.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
I know like kenobi like I don't know man, I I may
be missing the boat, so feelfree to no write in and put a
nasty comment on spotify.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Now can you give us a green flag?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
yeah, okay, so a green flag.
Oh, I have so many red flags.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Um.
Does that just Mean like steerclear, don't, don't interact,
toxic person A red flag justmeans that I don't click with it
.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
It's just like I don't Get.
It is all I mean I'm not sayingI'm actually Running from these
people.
I just don't Understand it.
A green flag is like you knowhow, when somebody likes your
music, like that's a green flagfor me, like if you find out
that somebody's like a big fanof the same artist as you yeah,

(22:58):
okay yeah, you know yeah, likeright now chapel roan's huge
billy eilish's record is huge,like huge fans of both of those,
um you know.
So like that's a green flag forme when you find out that people
are into the same kind of music.
What are green flags for youguys?

Speaker 3 (23:18):
hmm, sarah um, for me it would be like people that
are interested in like gardeningor landscaping, or or birding.
Birding.
I met someone at the airportthat's super into birding, which
I was like.
I wanted to be as into birdingas her.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Like, but not.
But not creepy into birding.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
No, like like she was like get this app and then get
this app and she's like a member, member of like the local
chapter in her county Is it theAudubon Society't the Audubon
society she's very aware of it,but yeah, it's just like
something she started doing withher mom and, like I was like I
now want to be a birder.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I mean, I think it's time to lean into burning.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
It's kind of.
It's kind of like gardening andflowers and stuff too.
Like my sister bought me at-shirt she saw a t-shirt at
Walmart the other day that madeher think of me and it was this
like yin yang that was made upof like flowers on one side and
then it was like kind of clearon the other, but the, the dark

(24:22):
part was like a flower, Like itwas really beautiful and it said
something along the lines ofgrowth the only way to grow is
to go through.
Oh, that's good you know, likeit was really, really thoughtful
.
And my sister was like I feellike this is like what you talk
about all the time.
Plus, it's a yin yang, she, andshe's like I say it yin yang,
and that's how I'm going.

(24:42):
Oh, gardening, yes.
So now that my sister and I areboth in our forties I'm close
to 50 and she's getting closer,let's be honest, like we both
know oh, are those impatience?
Are those lilacs?

(25:03):
Are those?

Speaker 3 (25:04):
rose of.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Sharon, are those crepe myrtles Like?
And that's something that, like, I would not have known.
10, 15 years ago, you know, andso my sister was trying to
decide like are the flowers onthe shirt poppies, are they
roses?
Are they daisies?
Like what are they?
And I was like, oh my gosh,like we're showing our age right
now, you know.
So I'm just agreeing with youthat now is the time for

(25:26):
gardening and birding.
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
It's just time.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
It's just time.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
So Moose what are some green flags for you just
music.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I told you, music is the only one that's the only one
yeah, I've got a lot of redflags.
You want to hear more aboutthose, sure?
So I mean, I think anyone whodrops names is super annoying
yeah you know that's like oh,let me tell you about who I know
and who I spent time with manand I.

(25:56):
Just it's a red flag, what?
Okay?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Oh sorry, why?
What made you bring up the redand green flags?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Mainly because it made me think about.
It's a good question.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Like what are my yeses?

Speaker 3 (26:14):
and what are my?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
no's okay.
So what are your green flags,kat?

Speaker 1 (26:19):
my green flags would easily be anything that has to
do with the fascination andstudy of the body and of energy
and of um of kind of Taoistphilosophy type, like balance in
all things, like that.
Like to me, if you want to talkto me about that, like you're

(26:42):
immediately like in my innersanctum not really in my inner
sanctum, but it's a green flag.
Yeah, it's a green flag for me.
I think another one is alsomusic, but I just don't ever I
shouldn't say I don't ever.
I rarely run into that becausemy musical tastes are.
I think from a societalstandpoint they're really lame.

(27:04):
I love my musical taste, but Ithink a lot of people are like
wow, like you actually reallyjam out to Celine Dion and Sarah
McLachlan in your car, likethat's actually a real thing.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
And I'm like well, you've probably hit the age
where you're not looking for newstuff, You're just going back
and listening to the nostalgicstuff that you love because the
other moments in my day I feellike I'm going to die.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
So it's like if I can just like if I can just have
some nostalgia, some peace andcomfort and remember all that
one time.
That one song is when we kissedand that was so nice, because
you know, like that, yeah, yeahoh, wow, wow.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
hey, so does that mean that the artists that you
like may very well be red flagsto other people?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Oh, probably.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, or just either red flags, but but I guess, like
I mean, I guess if those peoplego away, like, if they're like
oh, you like Sarah McLachlan,yeah, we can't be friends, like
yeah maybe so, and I hope it isgood riddance, bye-bye.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Okay.
So what do you guys think areyour red flags for other people?
I'll tell you mine, I would say.
Someone might say that a redflag that I have for them would
be my impatience, like theflower, yes, like the flower.
See, it all comes back aroundsee it all comes back around.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
So let me be sure I understand the question right.
So like it's a red flag, thatyou give off.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
I don't know.
To be honest with you, at thispoint I've turned us around.
So far.
I have no clue what a red and agreen flag is oh, yes, no, but
you do.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Like you're so smart, like you're so incredibly smart
.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
I think that my I'm saying some people might say
that impatient people are redflags, Like maybe they've had
bad experiences and I can carrythat sometimes.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
I see, I see, and for me I think mine is, and I've
been talking with my friendRachel about this lately is
about big, yang, big energy, bigoutward energy.
Like, do I take up so muchspace, is my energy so big that
there's not room for the otherperson to be able to like for

(29:28):
them?

Speaker 3 (29:29):
to be big.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Is it just really tantamount that I'm big all the
time and therefore you have notime to be big?
Even when I'm trying to besmall, I'm big.
Like I was trying to activelylisten to someone today and so I
was like, oh, your experiencesounds like that was really hard
.
And she was like, well,actually it wasn't really hard.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it's like I got on hernerves because, like I was

(29:55):
trying to be really small andreally listen to her.
But it's like even then I wasstill like I'm imposing my
opinion on you you stupid whore,you know, but were you trying
to be small?

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Cause I doesn't.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
I don't think that sounds like you being small,
that like you being small, thatsounds like you being trying to
be empathic to what they werefeeling and I was trying to be
empathic to how they werefeeling and I perceive that as
me like shrinking like me, likegoing oh, let's make this moment
about you like that.
I don't feel that at all.

(30:30):
So I need to understand that.
Can you break that down for me?

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Well, it sounds like and I have no idea if this is
true, but it sounds like thatperson was actually avoiding
connection with you by agreeingwith what you suggested, like
they didn't want to say oh yeah,they didn't want to go deeper.
They actually were like that'sall I wanted to say about that
that's a guess, okay.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Okay.
So I'm doing that thing where,like, I'm trying to like make
love with my eyes, like that.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, you and our other friend, you know who they
are.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh, I do, you guys love to make love.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
And granted, I'm not saying you did anything wrong.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
I'm saying that they're, I mean maybe we change,
maybe we change maybe we changethe tagline for the cat and
moose podcast to we love to makelove.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
We just love to make love.
It's it's time.
It's time we try something new,guys, that would require me
doing it more often.
I think well making love, yeswell you can it is a beautiful
free society.
Oh Lord, go find a love-makingpartner or do it.
You can do it yourself if you'dlike.

(31:42):
Oh my God, you can Well.
I mean, you could buy a friendin Target.
I mean, you guys, they havevibrators in target.
Now, she said it, but they do.
We should talk about this,that's true that's true.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
I did not know that I haven't been to target in like
two years I haven't either, butI've seen the tiktoks.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
I mean, that's another red flag, like what?

Speaker 3 (32:10):
what kind kind of?

Speaker 2 (32:12):
What, what kind do they have?

Speaker 3 (32:13):
What are they showing on TikTok?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Well, they're just showing people are either
outraged or think it's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Oh, like that.
It's available at the store.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah, there's like an aisle, I think.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Well, yeah, I mean, it's like why do we need to
attach shame to that Like fair?

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Well, thank God you don't have to go down to
bernie's sex shop down onbroadway I mean you walk in
those places like everyone.
Raise your hand.
You've been in one of those.
I've never been in one.
Don't go.
Don't cat.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
I went with you one time I know I was gonna say if
you try to say that you haven'tbeen, i'm'm going to call
bullshit.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
No, I won't, I won't say it, but that is the last
place I ever want to go.
I think they're so gross.
Yeah, I mean, we were a bunchof 20-year-olds and we were like
, let's go see what it's like.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
And then they have the little candy jars at the
counter that have free samplesof the lube that makes
everything hot.
Do you remember that?

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
You just said lube on the podcast.
I did Well this.
Okay, I've been to twodifferent ones, if I'm being
honest.
One was like this creepy onedowntown Bernie's Sex Shop, not
really, but it's called likeNashville's Newspaper or
something, not Hustler, no, itwas before Hustler came to town,
but then that one was superweird.

(33:38):
But there's like some messed upstuff there and I'm trying not
to be critical.
Well, like blow up dolls, likeif you have to buy something
that you have to Get it onAmazon.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
No.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Don't get it.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
No, I'm not judging if you have to get it on.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Amazon.
No, don't get it.
No, I'm not judging if you wantto get it, but, like I guess
it's the people that were inthere and what they were looking
at, I was totally judging.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
I mean, I need to hear more about this experience,
cause I feel like you weregoing to really judge, like if
you need something that ticklesyour butthole, then you know
like, then you your butthole,then you know like, then you're
a terrible person you know likewhat are you thinking?

Speaker 2 (34:19):
I guess it bothers me that people buy like blow-up
dolls to have relations with ohyeah that's concerning to me.
What if they?

Speaker 3 (34:31):
what if they don't have a person?
Better than them taking aperson?

Speaker 1 (34:35):
I mean, you just got done, telling me I could
orchestrate this by myself youtotally can I.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
I again like I'm trying to withhold my judgment.
I think I've known some reallygross people in my life and I
can that's fair.
In my mind the ones who havebought blow-up dolls before like
what happens in your mind theday that you decide to go buy a
blow-up doll.

(35:01):
Like it has to have escalatedto that point, okay, somebody
listening has fucking done that.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
And and more than we need to interview Vera about her
11 million cases of chickenwings, we have to talk about
what was the moment in your lifewhere you decided I'm getting
the blow-up doll.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I would like to know.
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
I think it would offer so much perspective.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
It really would, and nobody's going to come forward.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
I just don't feel like anyone's coming forward.
I think it would offer so muchperspective.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
It really would and nobody's going to come forward.
I just don't feel like anyone'scoming forward.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
I totally do.
We have like 90% womenlistening.
Women can buy blow-up dolls.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
I'm sure there are, some Are there male blow-up
dolls.
I don't know they're buyingvibrators?

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, they are.
Why is that worse?
Why am I so judgy?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
I don't know.
They're buying vibrators.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, they are.
Why is that worse?
Why am I so judgy?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Do they sell blow-up dolls at Target?
Probably not Coming in 2025.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
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Speaker 3 (36:28):
Do it again new stickers.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
What do you mean, new stickers?
Uh well, we order throughsticker mule.
I don't know if anyone elseuses Sticker Mule.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Because she wants the hot sauce.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
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Speaker 3 (36:40):
Oh, that's not a good deal I was running out of
stickers by the way we have why?
Because you're going-.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Oh, I'm going to the podcast convention next week.
I'm so excited in DC to learnsome new fun, amazing stuff for
our podcast.
Very excited about it.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
You're going to splatter the place with some cat
mysticers.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
I'm going to slather the place with cat mysticers.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Well, I've got some pins for you too, okay cool and
we have some blow-up dolls now.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, I do want to.
They're all of moose thoughthey're all of moose.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
That's disgusting and I don't want anyone.
Why can't cat have one?
And what about a producer,sarah blow-up doll.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Well, if you want that, we will make it.
I want to give a shout out tokim from florence kentucky.
She started listening uh to thepodcast from the very beginning
.
She's listened to four years ofthis podcast kim, are you okay?
what, yeah, seriously for herand she wrote recently I'm
laughing so hard, I'm cryingright now.

(37:44):
Moose just told the story ofwatching madonna madonna video
and her mom pulling the cableout of the wall.
And then she wrote oh my god,and now the toilet paper club.
I'm dying.
So I think she's still back at2020.
Wow, but, kim, when you get to2024, you're gonna really hear
this yeah, no kidding, and goodjob sticking around.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
We appreciate you oh yeah, we appreciate you, kim.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Thank you so much well, guys, it's been a I mean,
it's been a real joy, as usual.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
This episode is sponsored by Hustler and Blow Up
Dolls.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
And Blow Up Dolls and Blow Up Dolls and Sticker Mule.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Sticker Mule.
Yeah, thanks, sticker Mule, forthe hot sauce.
Thank you, hey.
What I was going to say is, ifyou want a sticker, or yours is
sort of Faded, disappeared, goneaway, you washed it in the
dishwasher.
Whatever, let us know.
Let us know.
Send us a DM on the Instagramwith your address.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
I have one job, and that is to communicate with our
fans and send them stickers.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
So hit us up, give me work.
All the different ways.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Give her some work, hello at cat and moose
podcastcom.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Send us your address.
We will send you stickers forfree, guys.
Yeah, free stickers all daylong.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
You'll get a little like card that has our logo on
it and you'll get all of oursignatures on it.
Like it's real fancy.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
You'll get a uh, uh, nearly naked photo, uh, of the
cat and moose co-hosts cat mooseand producer Sarah, and that
one has the dogs in it nearlynaked as well, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Hey, this is what you came for.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
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Speaker 1 (39:30):
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more.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
That's right.
Thank you for saying thatcorrectly.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Bye guys special thanks to our producer, sarah
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Speaker 2 (40:07):
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