October 17, 2024 • 43 mins
Moose shares about an unexpected tumble from an office chair during an eye appointment.
Picture this: a family mini-vacation at Orange Beach, Alabama, turns into a comedy of errors as Kat attempts to navigate a lazy river on an inner tube, with less grace and more splashes than she intended. This leads to a discussion on ancient Roman hygiene practices that will have you both amused and grateful for modern plumbing.
We also ponder the curious American roadside phenomenon of Buc-ee's, imagining what an extraterrestrial might think of this unique pit stop.
As we drift into deeper waters, we reflect on the inevitability of death and the comfort found in spiritual continuity. Navigating family dynamics with a humorous twist from Ram Dass, we explore how these relationships shape us and how brave TikTokers walking through health journeys can prompt profound conversations about mortality.
Sharing personal stories of loss, we find solace in the belief that our loved ones continue to journey with us, perhaps even in the form of mysterious frogs. Join us as we explore the broader existence beyond our perceived reality, and other quirks of being human. 🤔
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast.
I'm Cat and.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Moose.
This is a true life podcastwhere we explore the quirks of
being human.
Hey Cat, hey Moose, how youdoing?
What's happening?
What's happening, girl, hey,girl, hey, what are you up to?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well, you know, today has been a challenging work day
for me today.
Why Do tell Humans?
Humans are challenging, youknow, and I love them.
I actually love I'm trying tothink.
There's one, there's two humansthat I work with that I don't
really enjoy, but for the mostpart, like I enjoy the people
(00:51):
that I get to work with, andtoday and yesterday I was in a
work conversation that had justtoo many cooks in the kitchen,
yeah, and it's one of thosewhere it's like everybody thinks
they're right and everybodythinks they know the best thing
to do and somebody's got to bein charge and I did this like
what I thought was going to bekind of like a I'm going to be
(01:14):
in charge now speech, and itcompletely fell flat and so,
like I just got like completelysteamrolled and it's like I'm
just not used to that, and so itwas a little bit um,
challenging is the best word Ihave for it.
But you know what it's allworking out beautifully.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Oh, that is frustrating when you're like,
okay, nobody's taking charge,I'm going to take charge, and
then they're like, no, weactually don't pick you as our
leader.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Right, right.
Actually don't pick you as ourleader, right Right.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's pretty pretty much exactly what happened.
I have a story for you thathappened last week that I I
almost left you a voice memo butI was like I have to save it
for the podcast.
Um, I've been doing all ofthese like mid life checkups you
know what I mean like mammogramand oh yeah, you know,
colonoscopy and all the things.
(02:10):
Oh fun.
Yep, I turned 46 years old butI've been doing them for a few
years.
But I'm trying to like get backon my annual stuff because you
know it's so easy to be like,when was the last time I went to
the dentist?
yes, yes, it's like I go to thedoctor when something's wrong,
not for wellness yeah, I amtrying to be more preventative
(02:36):
and so, anyway, I was at aneyeglass appointment and you
know the ones who it's not lenscrafter, but it's like a version
of that.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I won't say who it was right, yes, yes, it's a.
It's a one-stop glasses shop,right yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Which now people don't buy.
Well, I I have to buy like $300glasses cause I need
progressives now, but you know Ialso get ones on like Zenni for
like $12, right.
Yeah, so they need to know.
At this point they're sort oflike that.
It's like the music industrywhen we were moving from CDs to
(03:16):
digital, like you could be indenial up to a point.
Right, right Then it's like, ohno, you have to actually convert
over.
So I sort of want to tell them,like, if that's an, obviously
I'm being facetious here, but ifthat's where you're trying to
really make your money is on theglasses.
Like you have a very specificdemo Anyone under, I feel like
(03:39):
50 is going to buy their stuffonline.
Anyway, not my point side thing.
Buy their stuff online, anyway,not my point side thing.
I go in to get my eyes checkedon my yearly so I can get new
glasses, and this fine younglady was the doctor and um,
before I got to her I had thisfabulous guy who, um would do
(04:01):
like the pre stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You know what I mean Like, yes, check your pressure
in your eye and like, yeah, giveyou the little numbing drops.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
and yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so he had me move from one
room to the other.
I had to simply walk across thehallway, and so when I get into
the second room, he and I aretalking about something or
whatever, and it was one ofthose like office chairs that
don't have any um sides to themyou know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
it's just like a rolly armless, armless.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So I am talking to him and telling him all about
what my weekend holds and I sitdown on that thing and let's
just say that thing went outfrom under me I was flying.
My feet went up in the air, Iwas wearing my burks and they
went into the hallway.
So anyone sitting in the actualwaiting room who was looking
(04:54):
down the hallway just saw twoburks flying in the air.
And what he said after we gotdone, laughing for an entire
five minutes straight.
He said through his laughter itwas in slow motion.
He goes about one second intoit.
You just started going and mylegs just went up.
(05:24):
And you know, I said well,you're lucky, I'm not an 80 year
old woman.
I would have broken both hipsif I had fallen.
And he said are you going tosue us?
Really quietly?
And I said, yes, really quietly.
Good, good, awesome.
So hoping that works out.
Um, so which injury law firmare you going to utilize?
Oh, I'm not sure, but I bet Icould get something I really
(05:48):
could.
Isn't that funny?
I'm just not that type ofperson.
But it was interesting becauseafter the fact, because of my
company, this guy was like Igave him the permission to laugh
.
Once I got back up, he helpedme up and all that and I wasn't
hurt, of course, but I waslaughing so hard and I looked at
him and I said when are yougoing to laugh?
(06:08):
And he could not stop laughing.
But it was interesting, I hadzero shame, I was not like my
normal, like oh, fat girl fellon the floor.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Look at her.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Like I thought it was so funny.
That's great.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't know.
I just felt like I needed totell you about that.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well, I feel like something I was going to talk
about this week kind ofbeautifully fits into that, of
course, because that alwayshappens.
I feel like that is is a goodexample of you having achieved
another level of healing.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think so.
I was shocked at how much Iwasn't embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yes, and I think I mean that's huge and you even
said it yourself.
You're like like my former self, where whatever you said would
say, oh, fat girl, you know, andit's like, it's like no, you
can just find the joy in it, youcan just find the joy in the
moment and I love that.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Now listen, if it was like a super skinny, pretty
girl, I would have totally beenembarrassed, I think.
So, really, I think it has todo with the company.
Like he was just seeming like acool great guy, yeah.
Well, I'm glad that you're asuper skinny, skinny, pretty
girl Like I don't hate you, butI just don't want to be fat
around you.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's fantastic.
I'm going to say that to mynext skinny girlfriend that I
get to see.
Yeah, I just don't want to befat around you.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I mean, it's true, like every one of us who has a
little chunk on the body.
It is, uh well, I don't know ifit's every one of us.
You tell me, kat, but we have ahard time getting dressed for
fancy things because of you.
Yes, you are the standard, yes,and therefore we are like I
(07:53):
can't wear that, but I have tosort of get close to it, so like
it's not your fault is what I'msaying, but it's still a
reality?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yes, yes, it totally is, and I was talking with my
hairdresser yesterday about howI haven't bought new work
clothes since before COVID.
So it's been like six or sevenyears since I have bought myself
anything to like wear.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Wait a minute, covid was not in 2015.
But I mean, it's been fouryears since COVID.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It's been four years since COVID, and I think it's
been at least two years beforeCOVID that I hadn't bought
myself anything.
So thank you for clarifying.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I just I.
You know it's a math podcast.
I don't want to get it wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Right, and if it was six or seven years ago?
2015 does not fit into thatformula either.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
As soon as I said it, I was like I'm screwed as well.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
That's awesome.
That's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So are you buying any now?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
No, no, I don't intend to, but I was just
talking with my hairdresserabout because she dresses really
cool, and and so I asked her Iwas like where do you shop?
Because I'm like, ok, I couldshop wherever she shops and be
like rock solid, you know.
And she was saying TJ Maxx andMarshalls and Amazon, and she's
(09:15):
like I hate shopping.
So she's like I just, you know,I put pieces together and I
wear them for years and years.
And she said, and really, kat,let's be honest, if you're going
to go to some nice thing andyou wear something black, yeah,
you do not have to be stylish,yeah, I agree, it's not like.
Like you have to wear, likelike this year's version of the
black button up or the tank topor whatever it is.
(09:36):
And I thought, you know, likeshe's got a really good point I
need to just pull out all of my,all of my cocktail wear for
next time.
I have to do something.
Anyway, that sounds reallymiserable.
I had a fall experience thisweek as well.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Oh, does it involve a pumpkin spice latte?
It does not.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Okay, good, no, I fell.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Oh, a fall.
I thought you meant like autumn, like you said, a fall
experience.
So I thought we were at apumpkin patch.
Okay, yes, no, you actuallyfell as well.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I'm following.
Yes, I fell as well.
So I took a couple of days ofthe fall break and went on a
mini vacation with my family,and so we went to Orange Beach,
alabama, and we stayed at aplace called the Oasis, and the
Oasis has got multiple swimmingpools.
(10:31):
They have outdoor swimmingpools, indoor swimming pools,
they have hot tubs, they havesplash pads, they have all kinds
of activities for kids andadults alike, and they also
sponsor our podcast.
I just sounded like I wasreading a commercial about them.
Thank you, um.
And so, anyway, I went to oneof the swimming pools called the
lazy river.
I love a lazy river.
(10:52):
Oh, it's so nice because, likethey have these these water jets
kind of in the bottom of thepool and the pool kind of snakes
around like yeah, like it'skind of shaped like an S, and
then it ends in this big, likethree foot pool that is at the
end of a big, long twisty slide.
So the kids can, you know, gooff the slide and the parents
(11:13):
can just float around the lazyriver, blah, blah, blah.
And so I started looking at allthese people and everybody was
sitting in their inner tube.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Oh no, you tried to be like the others, I did, I did
.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You tried to be like the others I did, I did, I tried
to be like the others, and thenmy sister saw from across the
way.
She was like oh dear, my sisteris trying to do something that
she cannot do, but in your mind,you can do it right In my mind.
I can totally do it.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Oh, this is just like a quick hop backwards.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yes, exactly, and I just have to pull it under me.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yes, I have to do a push-up, lifting all of my body
weight to bring myself into thisinner tube.
Yes, I can do this Right, andso I tried that and miserably
failed.
And so then, my sister, cameover to help me and we were both
laughing so hard that it waslike hard to make anything
happen.
And finally she goes just gofor it.
(12:06):
She goes, just put your butt inthere, just go for it.
And I was like okay, and so Idid, and I'm not exactly sure
what happened, but what I knowis that I ended up completely
under the water and I am notsure how I didn't crack my skull
.
I was going to say, did you hitthe cement?
(12:28):
No, I didn't, and and and I didthis weird like tuck and roll,
like this thing to try toprotect myself, and and the
water was freezing, cause it'slike October and even though
you're down at the beach, it'sstill kind of chilly at this
point.
And so I come up from theunderworld all soaking wet, my
glasses were everywhere, mybathing suit was everywhere, and
(12:51):
this woman came up to me andher little like swimsuit
cover-up, little sachet thingand she had like a martini glass
in her hand and she goessweetheart.
At least that was graceful.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Oh, no See, skinny pretty girls came.
Oh, they got it.
They got not all of them.
We love you if you are one.
Some of them.
They got to make a point to saywe saw you, don't they?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Mm-hmm.
And then she tried to make mefeel better about it by saying
it looked graceful.
And I'm like there's nothinghere that looks graceful, Like I
, please and thank you.
There's nothing here that looksgraceful.
So yay for falling and laughingat ourselves.
I didn't do as good as you.
I kind of was embarrassed and Iwas like, oh my God, I got to
(13:41):
get out of the pool.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Oh, I would have been embarrassed in that in that
scenario too.
I don't know why it wasn't, itwas just like a moment in time.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
but of healing.
Yeah, I really believe that.
Why don't I just push that onyou Like it's an?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
you have been healed.
You have been healed, youstupid whore.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Accept it, you stupid whore.
I saw a video that reallyreminded me of you, not because
of the content, just because itfeels like something you would
be interested in.
So I'd love to share it withyou is this the thing that you
sent me this morning?
Oh no, but I do need to talkabout that.
I do, I do, I do.
Yes, okay, I mean, if there isa story that fits our
(14:22):
demographic, it is this oh, oh,my goodness, what's happening
here?
Okay, here we go, here we go,here we go, here we go, here we
go.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
A sponge on a stick was used as toilet paper in
ancient Rome.
Now this thing was communal andstored in public restrooms
where many people would share it.
After use, the sponge wassupposed to be dipped in a
bucket filled with salt water orvinegar to clean it.
This helped disinfect it andprepare it for the next person.
(14:51):
Once cleaned, the sponge wasleft in the bucket or hung to
dry until needed again oh, um.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
so that was in ancient roman days, oh Uh-huh,
but it was called a communaltoilet sponge.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
A communal toilet sponge.
Wow, and is that how the BlackPlague started?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It must be.
I could not believe it when Isaw it, but again, I'd love for
you to read some of thesecomments.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
My first dude enjoyed it.
Bro, really gave me an idea toopen toilet business poor
spongebob.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Uh, you never failed to traumatize me, but I just
found it very interestingbecause I, you know, I mean
picture whether it's a stick oran actual device with a sponge
on it.
I guess you're just rubbing andgetting the stuff off, right,
yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I guess, I guess.
So I mean, it makes me think oflike a reusable baby wipe.
Yeah, that's disgusting.
You know, if you've ever wipeda baby's butt.
You don't want to reuse thatthing.
No, you don't.
But then again there areparents who believe in cloth
diapers and they just take it,wash it and reuse it.
So the Romans may have been onto something.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
What do you wash that out on?
There has to be like a basinoutside right.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You mean for a baby?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
diaper?
Yes, because it can't go inyour kitchen sink.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I don't know, I'm not a parent.
I'm just saying, oh Lord, weneed to ask our friends, who are
listeners, who are parents whouse cloth diapers or used cloth
diapers on your babies how doyou clean them?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
We need you to write in and tell us please.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Write in and tell us so.
You sent me a text this morningthat I have thought about
multiple times today and I'mreally, really excited that
we're celebrating your birthdayalmost a month after your
birthday and as part of yourbirthday celebration, I have
recommended that we watch thisdocumentary together.
So, your friend, tell me hisname again.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, his name is Daryl Anka.
Is his name Daryl?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Anka yes, so a woman has made a documentary about
Daryl Anka channeling anextraterrestrial called Bashar
yes, and we've talked aboutBashar the past couple of
episodes, and I am, I am really,really excited to watch this
documentary because apparentlyit contains all of the wisdom
(17:22):
that all of humankind needs tohear.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yes, and I've talked about him before.
Um, but I found it sointeresting that the timing of
me sort of finding out aboutBashar and Daryl Anka and that I
was so excited that this movieis coming out, or is out, it's
on, I think it's on Apple.
Uh, you can watch it.
Um, what's the name of it?
(17:45):
Kat?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Like hanging out with an extraterrestrial or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
It is something like that.
Let me look Interview with theextraterrestrial and what I
understand it is a documentaryabout Daryl Anka.
But this investigativejournalist actually was like,
okay, I need to know if this isreal or not.
And she had conversations withDaryl Anka and she was amazed at
(18:14):
how the information just flowed, like it really there was never
anything that stalled him.
Like it was just like theinformation flowed.
And I saw an interview justthis past week with him.
Like it was just like theinformation flowed.
And I saw an interview just thispast week with him and I don't
know if it was recent or if itwas just on my feed and was old,
but he basically said, like theteachings of Bashar really
(18:36):
boiled down to one idea and thatis be yourself Really, yeah, or
bring yourself forward.
And the point of that is whenwe do that, we begin to
recognize that we are part ofeach other.
But we also are chasing ourpassions in life, which I have
(18:59):
found to be a very common thingthat he brings up a lot.
So anyway, if you areinterested in all of that
craziness, it's called interviewwith the extraterrestrial and
it's on Apple TV.
We're going to watch it soonand we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, we're.
We're going to watch it soonand it's going to be one
question I have about thechanneling of Bashar.
That is a little bit hard forme and my um auditory sensory
receiving obstacles, um orifices, whatever the right word is, is
(19:34):
that when, when he channelsBashar, he always seems really
angry.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I know I'm with you.
There's a sensitive side to methat cannot like I'll find
myself scrolling and I have tokeep scrolling.
Yeah, it's like more aggressive, I think, than angry, but it's
super direct, sometimes like ifsomeone is like okay, but I
don't understand that andsometimes he'll go.
(20:01):
What makes you understand thatalmost like, um, what is that
guy on star Wars that you alwaystalk about Like Spock?
No, the guy who is the wisdomguy, oh, yoda.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It almost like it comes across like that where it
turns it back into a question.
You're like that's not, butalso like, if you can get
through that.
That is my only thing too, katis.
I feel too sensitive to watchit sometimes.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I do too, and I also.
It kind of triggers me toevangelical preaching.
You know how, like somepreachers, just it's like
they're so passionate about whatthey're talking about that I
feel like they're yelling at meand that's something that I've
noticed is a pattern in my life,especially with men, is that if
men are passionate aboutwhatever they're talking about,
(20:51):
I kind of get into like a like Iget, I start feeling a little
bit scared or a little bituncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I don't think what you're feeling is their passion,
because your body, in myopinion this is my opinion Uh, I
think what you're feeling isactual aggressive anger and
that's uncomfortable because Ihave plenty of men in my life,
and yours as well.
I'm sure that can be passionateand not come across in that
(21:20):
angry, screaming way, cause I'mwith you, cannot take somebody
just railing.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
No, yeah, that's a really, that's, I'm going to
really I'm going to contemplatethat.
Thank you so much, moose.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I do have a recommendation for you, though.
You can go on his website andread like all of his teachings,
if you're interested.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Oh, so I can.
I can hear it in the tone thatI want to interpret it.
Yeah, that's nice.
So I can hear it in the tonethat I want to interpret it yeah
, that's nice.
Well, you know, this wholedocumentary is an interview with
extraterrestrial and I had athought the other day, coming
back from my short beach tripwith my family, and it was this
I was in Buc-ee's, oh, and ifyou've been to a Buc-ee's, you
(22:10):
know that everything is brandedBuc-ee's.
They have pajamas, they havet-shirts, they have cups, they
have lighters, they have beefjerky They've got beef jerky.
They've got nuggets They've gotdog leashes.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
They've got dresses.
I mean, let's stop.
And for our friends who are notin the United States or in the
South, because I think that'sthe majority of where Buc-ee's
are Explain what a Buc-ee is.
Kat.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Well, a Buc-ee.
I didn't know what it waseither until this phenomenon
happened, but apparently it's abeaver with buck teeth, and so
his name is Buc-ee, b-u-c, dash,e-e, b-u-c-e-e, and Bucky is
like it's just the head of thebeaver.
That is like the logo andeverything has him on it, and
(22:54):
it's basically like a gasstation had a child with Walmart
and everything came out lookinglike Bucky yeah it's true.
And it's like some of the foodis really good, like their
French fries are better thaneven better than McDonald's
French fries yes, like they'reso good.
So there's a handful of thingsthat Bucky's has that is really
(23:16):
really amazing.
But it is huge and it has like,if you want to get a pack of
gum, you've got like a wholeaisle and a half to choose from.
They've got every flavor, everycolor, every brand.
It's just a lot.
It's very American, like itfeels very American.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And it's like a destination.
So like I mean, if you're on aroad trip where you want to keep
moving, don't stop, Causethere's like a hundred gas
station aisles and it's going totake you an hour to get in and
out.
Yes, there are lines.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
There are tons of people.
I mean it's very, very crowdedall the time.
And so I was at Buc-ee's theother day and thinking to myself
if an alien were to come toEarth and Buc-ee's was their
first experience, Right, Wouldthat be representative of our
planet?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
It would be representative of the United
States.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yes, and that's also the conclusion that I came to.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that anyone, even just straight
up Europeans that come over andsee that, are like I mean they
probably would think it'ssemi-cool.
I mean it's not a dumb idea?
I'll tell you that no, clearlynot.
You've got people thatliterally will route their trips
(24:38):
to hit as many Buc-ee's aspossible.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yes, so it's a spectacle.
It is a spectacle and it'sbrilliant from a marketing
standpoint because my mom and Ishe bought two t-shirts, we
bought a sandwich, a burrito andsome chicken tenders and fries
and, I think, one drink and itwas $77.
And I'm like it's like Targetyou can't get out of there
(25:03):
without dropping a hundo, andit's like if there are 300
people in the gas station at alltimes, can you imagine the
profit that they're churning?
No Pretty wild.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So they actually pay really well too.
I heard someone say oh, that'scool.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
So I've seen it on their signs Like hey, the store
manager makes 125,000 a year.
I I mean they've got it like on, yeah, on their signs but I'm
like what do you got to do toqualify to be a bucky store
manager?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
golly I don't know, but I'll tell you this I don't
want to do it.
Do you know how many peoplesomebody's gonna have a problem?
Yep and they are.
It's not gonna be pretty.
That's a whole different levelof problem.
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
mean, yes, I do, and in this other thing that I'm
gonna bring, that's a wholedifferent level of problem.
You know what I mean?
Yes, I do, and this other thingthat I'm going to bring up is
also a whole different level ofproblem that I would really love
.
I would love to get your takeon.
So I was watching a collegefootball game recently and one
of the players on a particularfootball team I'm not going to
name who it was had.
You know how they have theblack stuff under their eyes,
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like the black paint that Iguess helps make the glare from
the stadium lights Not so bad,or I don't really know what it's
for, but I think it's just warpaint.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But so it war paint.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So this guy had on war paint that was black and in
white writing.
Underneath his right eye itsaid kill, and underneath his
left eye it said kill andunderneath his left eye it said
everyone.
So it said kill everyone.
Oh, I've seen this guy.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Is this okay?
I don't think so.
I remember thinking the samething Like wait a minute, why?
Why is that Okay?
Do we know why?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I don't, I don't, I just to me it's like I know that
(27:08):
, like there's the whole idea offreedom of speech and all of
that kind of stuff and I don'tcontest that.
I think freedom of speech is awonderful affected by, by the
things that you say.
And I just wonder, I am curiousagain, I'm not saying like this
is horrible, I'm more curiousof like what are you trying to
portray, Like what are you doingand is it okay?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I agree, and it feels like it's just a little bit of
attention to.
I mean, here's where it comesfrom.
It looks like.
So what is?
This is from Yahoo sports, bythe way.
So what was Williamsreferencing with his eye black?
It likely referenced Alvin Mackand the famous football movie,
the program.
The 1993 movie was aboutseveral players from different
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backgrounds trying to cope withthe pressures of playing
football at a major university.
And one scene in which Mac iswatching film, he breaks down
his defensive assignments likeso Kill the quarterback.
Hit the tight end so hard hisgirlfriend dies.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Kill everybody, oh my gosh, I don't like that no.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
So anyway, it doesn't matter if it's from that or not
.
I agree, I don't want to seeall that Mm-mm.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Mm-mm, mm-mm.
I don't want to see all that.
I don't want to see all thateither.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Thanks for bringing that up.
I feel like that I rememberseeing that as well, but
completely forgot about.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Well, it's just been kind of like, it's just been
kind of itching in the back ofmy memory, you know, and it's
been me making me kind of golike I want to talk about this
with my bestie.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I want to go like hey , what do you, what do you think
about this?
Yeah, I don't like it at all.
Okay, we had a listener sharethis quote with us, and it has
been on my brain all day, and Iwould love for you to tell me
what this means to you, so thatI can know what it means to me.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Okay, water will seek its level, nature will have
free course and heart willanswer to heart by William Lloyd
Garrison.
Hmm, so what does it mean toyou?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well, I've read it a thousand times Water will seek
its level, nature will have freecourse and heart will answer to
heart, I mean to me.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
It says what will be will be in a lot of ways, yeah,
yeah, that's kind of how I takeit, because water will seek its
level.
Yeah, you know, like if, ifwater is happening up here and
gravity is, you know, water isgoing to go down, I mean it's
just that just is what's goingto happen and nature will have
free course.
(29:31):
None of us can affect nature.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I know I think about that all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Like none of us and it greatly affects us.
I mean, with all this hurricaneseason has been horrific,
horrific, and so it's basically,I think it's saying like you
can't control water, you can'tcontrol nature, and also like
like heart will answer to heart.
It's like I just think it isvery much like you you don't
(29:58):
have control I know that's whatI felt, and yet it was also kind
of nice to be like, oh yeahgood, I don't really want
control heard the other day thatabsolutely cracked me up
because my vacation with myfamily was really enjoyable,
(30:27):
like it was really great and, aswith most long-term encounters
with family, there were momentsof chaos and explosion and
fighting and anger and all ofthat.
And someone said to me well,you know the Ram Dass quote,
don't you?
And I was like what Ram Dassquote?
And they said if you believethat you are enlightened, spend
(30:51):
a week with your family.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yes, oh my gosh, I forgot about that quote.
It's so true.
I just spent time with mysister, adore her, went camping.
I, I get it.
There is like I think I textyou this, isn't it amazing?
Not about my sister at all.
I love you, alicia.
Um, but we were talking about,like, how different people can
(31:16):
have different experiencesgrowing up in the same family,
and I, just I was like I believeour family are our first
teachers.
Yeah, because you can't get awayfrom them, you don't really
have a choice, at like six yearsold, to be like you're annoying
.
Yeah, I'm out you know yeah.
You don't have that choice.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, I don't like the way you discipline me.
I'm peacing out.
You know it's like no, youdon't get to choose.
And I went and looked up thequote because I was like I'm so
I'd like to know a little bitmore about this and all of that.
And it said this.
It said the quote is often usedduring holidays when people may
feel anxious or emotionallychallenged by family dynamics.
(32:01):
Family dynamics are often set inchildhood to your point and can
continue throughout life.
People may feel like they're nolonger the mature person they
think they are when they're backwith their family.
And I had a few, I had a fewmoments where I just had to step
away, like I was like I'm justgonna, I'm just gonna step away.
And to your point of like ourfamily are our first teachers.
I was hanging out with mynephews and going like we're all
(32:24):
they know.
Like like I mean yes, there'sschool people and stuff like
that're all they know.
Like like I mean, yes, they'reschool people and stuff like
that too.
But it's like since infancy, wesorry guys we're your tribe
yeah, exactly, you don't get to.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Whether you like it or not, like, your soul picked
this body and this family, sodon't forget that you got to
choose.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
That's what I believe .
Speaker 2 (32:48):
A lot of people say that we do choose who.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You know what our, who our teachers will be?
I don't, I don't remembermaking that choice whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I mean I guess I'm got pretty lucky, honestly.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yes, yeah, I think we both did yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Um, okay, so, speaking of our families and
death, um, we didn't talk aboutdeath, but I'm going to.
Um, so have I talked about theTikTok algorithm?
I've been stuck in, so I am notsure why, maybe because I'm
sure it has something to do withthe things like Google, but I
(33:26):
am stuck in the Tik TOKalgorithm of people sharing
their first symptoms before theywere diagnosed with cancer.
Oh, okay, so these are peoplewho've already been diagnosed
and, like, as a way to helpothers, they're saying, hey,
just I'm not saying you havecancer if this happened to you,
but, fyi, here were my firstsymptoms, which is super cool
(33:51):
that they even would take thetime to do that.
Yeah, really.
And so, as I've been likeexploring all of that, um, I've
just been like, so impressedwith the attitudes of these
folks who, many of them are,have terminal cancer and know
that you know they're sometimesin their twenties and thirties
and you know not that they'resharing everything on Tik TOK,
but their attitude is very likeI want to help others and I I
(34:16):
want to live my last days in abeautiful way.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
And anyway.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
So because I've been stuck in this algorithm, it's
just made me think a lot aboutdeath and a lot about how, as we
are in our midlife, we talkabout this a lot.
You know, that's when you startnoticeably changing, uh, your
body changing.
You are noticing aging and andall the different things that
(34:43):
happen as we get older, and Ithink, naturally, people our age
are losing their parents insome ways, or parents are sick.
But also, like the big scarymoments are when people our age
are like being diagnosed withthings that are terminal
illnesses or stuff they have tofight, and so all that to say, I
(35:04):
think, in your forties isreally in my, my experience is
when I have started going like,okay, what is this whole idea of
like death being a part of life?
You hear that phrase all thetime like, well, it's just a
part of life and it's like, well, that's cute and all until it's
somebody you really care aboutand then it's, you know, super
(35:25):
hard, and so anyway, I I havebeen exploring this idea of like
what if we take and again, I'mnot saying it's not going to be
hard when people we love die,but how do you really believe
that like it is a part of.
I need to embrace that that iscoming.
(35:45):
Have you had any experienceswith that of like thinking about
death more?
This is going to be a top ratedepisode.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yes, I think this is going to be one where people are
like that was really hilarious.
Bye, never listening again.
I don't.
I mean I I obviously have hadexperiences with death of people
close to me.
You know, my dad passed away,I've had relatives pass away,
I've had dogs pass away, I'vehad friends pass away, and so so
(36:17):
I don't know that my attitudeabout it has really those things
still have hurt.
Yeah, it's not like the older Iget, oh well, that doesn't
really hurt anymore becausedeath is a part of life.
Like, I don't subscribe to that.
(36:37):
And I was telling my mom theother day um, when we got home
from our trip, um, I was gettinga sweatshirt out of my closet
because it's starting to getreally chilly and I'm loving the
fall weather.
And and when I pulled thesweatshirt out of my closet, the
sweatshirt that was hangingright next to it, um, belonged
to our friend, steve Strout.
(36:58):
Oh, yeah, and it was a blueangels under armor sweatshirt
that that his wife, when she wasgoing through his clothes after
he passed, she was like Ireally think that this should
belong to Kat, you know, becauseI love the Blue Angels.
You know I like sporty lookingstuff, the whole nine yards and
I loved Steve, you know.
So she gave me that sweatshirtand I said to my mom, I said,
(37:21):
you know, I said I don't feellike anybody really prepared me
for friends my age dying yeahRight, I agree.
And she said, kat, she goes meeither, and she works for a
senior center, so she's workingwith elderly people and so she's
going to a funeral sometimesmore than once a week, you know
(37:43):
and it's like how in the worldare we supposed to cope with
this?
And I really, I really don'tknow.
I mean, I agree with thephilosophy death is a part of
life, just like the quote youread a little while ago, like
nature's going to do whatnature's going to do.
So, whether you like it or not,whether it's comfortable or not
, like nature's going to do whatnature does.
(38:04):
I don't know that, at least forme, that that makes me feel any
better about it.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, and I don't.
I don't either Like I.
I definitely think that thosefeelings are still there.
I think the piece that isbrings me somewhat comfort is
I've really come to believe thatwe are spiritual beings, really
come to believe that we arespiritual beings and, like, I
never really understood whatthat was until I feel, like the
(38:30):
past year, where I'm like, oh,that makes complete sense.
I don't know what changed forme, but it just makes sense now.
And so for me.
I used to have this fear and Iused to like, pray to God, like,
please, let me meet the peoplethat are in my life I'm close to
again in another life, like Iwould love to have those same
(38:50):
connections.
And the more I read and themore I explore, I think we do.
Like actually I've read oftenthose people are still in your
orbit in different ways, likeyou could be my kid in my next
life, which I would love, Iwould love, I would spank the
crap out of you, not in a dirtyway, just in like a mother child
(39:10):
way, um, cause you would be somouthy, I bet.
Anyway, I, that's my only hope.
It gives me a little bit ofhope is this idea of like this
isn't the last time we're allgoing to be hanging out.
You know Cause?
I mean speaking of our friendSteve.
You know we had this super coolsupernatural thing that
(39:30):
happened after he passed, wherewe had this encounter with a
frog, and I continue to havefrogs show up on my back patio.
I, uh, his wife will send mepictures of frogs that are
around their house.
Like Steve had no connection toanything about a frog while he
was alive, but I know in my soulthat is Steve showing up and
(39:52):
being like hey, I didn't haveenough energy to be a ghost, but
here, I am boo.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Well, it's like we talked about last week about the
angels, that that only aspecial type of angel has the
ability to move into thephysical realm, you know, to
like, show up, like as aphysical being, and it's like it
to me it there's got to be aconnection with steven frogs
like we don't know what it is,but like.
(40:19):
But he does, they do, and like.
There's something.
There is something reallybeautiful about that.
I would agree.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I remember you and I bought um his family a gift card
to this place before we left,after he passed away, just as a
way to make sure they had mealsand stuff, and even the logo on
this restaurant had a frog.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
I could see it in my mind's eye and it's like it's
just so bizarre.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
And yet everything about me, if I'm like rooted and
feel like I'm in a good,peaceful place because, yeah,
that's totally Steve Like Idon't know why say that this is
actually the dream, huh, whatwe're in right now is the dream,
(41:08):
wow.
And the spiritual place we areis the real thing, and I've only
experienced that under ketaminetherapy, but I have experienced
it where you just take a deepbreath and you're like, oh my,
it's like you just zoom out amillion miles and you're like,
oh, like you want to patyourself on the head and be like
(41:30):
I know you owe taxes, but it isgoing to be okay.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
It is going to be okay.
Yeah, and I've heard, I'veheard people talk about um,
psychedelic medicine, that waythat it's like there's something
about it that reveals kind ofthe truth of, of kind of who we
are as spiritual beings, havinga human experience.
You know, and, um, and, and I,just I, I that brings me hope,
(41:54):
I'm with you, like to think thatit's like, oh, all this is like
working together in some sortof micro macrocosm that all
makes sense, Like awesome.
I just want to steward it reallywell and I don't want my back
to hurt Like after I've slept ina foreign bed for a couple of
days.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
I totally agree.
So we'll.
We'll end with this amazingquote again water will seek its
level, nature will have freecourse and heart will answer to
heart.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I'm going to ask your heart a question from my heart,
please.
Okay, I just did oh withoutspeaking.
My heart spoke.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Okay, let me answer.
Yes, I am excited about havingdinner on Friday night for my
birthday.
I don't think that quote'saccurate.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yes, I am excited about having dinner on Friday
night for my birthday.
I don't think that quote'saccurate.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
What did you send to me?
I said I hope you know that Ilove you.
I see it was similar.
I love you too, you littlestinker.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Love you guys.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
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Thanks for listening, guys.
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I'm Cat and.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Moose.
This is a true life podcastwhere we explore the quirks of
being human.
Hey Cat, hey Moose, how youdoing?
What's happening?
What's happening, girl, hey,girl, hey, what are you up to?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well, you know, today has been a challenging work day
for me today.
Why Do tell Humans?
Humans are challenging, youknow, and I love them.
I actually love I'm trying tothink.
There's one, there's two humansthat I work with that I don't
really enjoy, but for the mostpart, like I enjoy the people
(00:51):
that I get to work with, andtoday and yesterday I was in a
work conversation that had justtoo many cooks in the kitchen,
yeah, and it's one of thosewhere it's like everybody thinks
they're right and everybodythinks they know the best thing
to do and somebody's got to bein charge and I did this like
what I thought was going to bekind of like a I'm going to be
(01:14):
in charge now speech, and itcompletely fell flat and so,
like I just got like completelysteamrolled and it's like I'm
just not used to that, and so itwas a little bit um,
challenging is the best word Ihave for it.
But you know what it's allworking out beautifully.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Oh, that is frustrating when you're like,
okay, nobody's taking charge,I'm going to take charge, and
then they're like, no, weactually don't pick you as our
leader.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Right, right.
Actually don't pick you as ourleader, right Right.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's pretty pretty much exactly what happened.
I have a story for you thathappened last week that I I
almost left you a voice memo butI was like I have to save it
for the podcast.
Um, I've been doing all ofthese like mid life checkups you
know what I mean like mammogramand oh yeah, you know,
colonoscopy and all the things.
(02:10):
Oh fun.
Yep, I turned 46 years old butI've been doing them for a few
years.
But I'm trying to like get backon my annual stuff because you
know it's so easy to be like,when was the last time I went to
the dentist?
yes, yes, it's like I go to thedoctor when something's wrong,
not for wellness yeah, I amtrying to be more preventative
(02:36):
and so, anyway, I was at aneyeglass appointment and you
know the ones who it's not lenscrafter, but it's like a version
of that.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I won't say who it was right, yes, yes, it's a.
It's a one-stop glasses shop,right yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Which now people don't buy.
Well, I I have to buy like $300glasses cause I need
progressives now, but you know Ialso get ones on like Zenni for
like $12, right.
Yeah, so they need to know.
At this point they're sort oflike that.
It's like the music industrywhen we were moving from CDs to
(03:16):
digital, like you could be indenial up to a point.
Right, right Then it's like, ohno, you have to actually convert
over.
So I sort of want to tell them,like, if that's an, obviously
I'm being facetious here, but ifthat's where you're trying to
really make your money is on theglasses.
Like you have a very specificdemo Anyone under, I feel like
(03:39):
50 is going to buy their stuffonline.
Anyway, not my point side thing.
Buy their stuff online, anyway,not my point side thing.
I go in to get my eyes checkedon my yearly so I can get new
glasses, and this fine younglady was the doctor and um,
before I got to her I had thisfabulous guy who, um would do
(04:01):
like the pre stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You know what I mean Like, yes, check your pressure
in your eye and like, yeah, giveyou the little numbing drops.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
and yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so he had me move from one
room to the other.
I had to simply walk across thehallway, and so when I get into
the second room, he and I aretalking about something or
whatever, and it was one ofthose like office chairs that
don't have any um sides to themyou know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
it's just like a rolly armless, armless.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So I am talking to him and telling him all about
what my weekend holds and I sitdown on that thing and let's
just say that thing went outfrom under me I was flying.
My feet went up in the air, Iwas wearing my burks and they
went into the hallway.
So anyone sitting in the actualwaiting room who was looking
(04:54):
down the hallway just saw twoburks flying in the air.
And what he said after we gotdone, laughing for an entire
five minutes straight.
He said through his laughter itwas in slow motion.
He goes about one second intoit.
You just started going and mylegs just went up.
(05:24):
And you know, I said well,you're lucky, I'm not an 80 year
old woman.
I would have broken both hipsif I had fallen.
And he said are you going tosue us?
Really quietly?
And I said, yes, really quietly.
Good, good, awesome.
So hoping that works out.
Um, so which injury law firmare you going to utilize?
Oh, I'm not sure, but I bet Icould get something I really
(05:48):
could.
Isn't that funny?
I'm just not that type ofperson.
But it was interesting becauseafter the fact, because of my
company, this guy was like Igave him the permission to laugh
.
Once I got back up, he helpedme up and all that and I wasn't
hurt, of course, but I waslaughing so hard and I looked at
him and I said when are yougoing to laugh?
(06:08):
And he could not stop laughing.
But it was interesting, I hadzero shame, I was not like my
normal, like oh, fat girl fellon the floor.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Look at her.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Like I thought it was so funny.
That's great.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't know.
I just felt like I needed totell you about that.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well, I feel like something I was going to talk
about this week kind ofbeautifully fits into that, of
course, because that alwayshappens.
I feel like that is is a goodexample of you having achieved
another level of healing.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think so.
I was shocked at how much Iwasn't embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yes, and I think I mean that's huge and you even
said it yourself.
You're like like my former self, where whatever you said would
say, oh, fat girl, you know, andit's like, it's like no, you
can just find the joy in it, youcan just find the joy in the
moment and I love that.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Now listen, if it was like a super skinny, pretty
girl, I would have totally beenembarrassed, I think.
So, really, I think it has todo with the company.
Like he was just seeming like acool great guy, yeah.
Well, I'm glad that you're asuper skinny, skinny, pretty
girl Like I don't hate you, butI just don't want to be fat
around you.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's fantastic.
I'm going to say that to mynext skinny girlfriend that I
get to see.
Yeah, I just don't want to befat around you.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I mean, it's true, like every one of us who has a
little chunk on the body.
It is, uh well, I don't know ifit's every one of us.
You tell me, kat, but we have ahard time getting dressed for
fancy things because of you.
Yes, you are the standard, yes,and therefore we are like I
(07:53):
can't wear that, but I have tosort of get close to it, so like
it's not your fault is what I'msaying, but it's still a
reality?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yes, yes, it totally is, and I was talking with my
hairdresser yesterday about howI haven't bought new work
clothes since before COVID.
So it's been like six or sevenyears since I have bought myself
anything to like wear.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Wait a minute, covid was not in 2015.
But I mean, it's been fouryears since COVID.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It's been four years since COVID, and I think it's
been at least two years beforeCOVID that I hadn't bought
myself anything.
So thank you for clarifying.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I just I.
You know it's a math podcast.
I don't want to get it wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Right, and if it was six or seven years ago?
2015 does not fit into thatformula either.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
As soon as I said it, I was like I'm screwed as well.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
That's awesome.
That's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So are you buying any now?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
No, no, I don't intend to, but I was just
talking with my hairdresserabout because she dresses really
cool, and and so I asked her Iwas like where do you shop?
Because I'm like, ok, I couldshop wherever she shops and be
like rock solid, you know.
And she was saying TJ Maxx andMarshalls and Amazon, and she's
(09:15):
like I hate shopping.
So she's like I just, you know,I put pieces together and I
wear them for years and years.
And she said, and really, kat,let's be honest, if you're going
to go to some nice thing andyou wear something black, yeah,
you do not have to be stylish,yeah, I agree, it's not like.
Like you have to wear, likelike this year's version of the
black button up or the tank topor whatever it is.
(09:36):
And I thought, you know, likeshe's got a really good point I
need to just pull out all of my,all of my cocktail wear for
next time.
I have to do something.
Anyway, that sounds reallymiserable.
I had a fall experience thisweek as well.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Oh, does it involve a pumpkin spice latte?
It does not.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Okay, good, no, I fell.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Oh, a fall.
I thought you meant like autumn, like you said, a fall
experience.
So I thought we were at apumpkin patch.
Okay, yes, no, you actuallyfell as well.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I'm following.
Yes, I fell as well.
So I took a couple of days ofthe fall break and went on a
mini vacation with my family,and so we went to Orange Beach,
alabama, and we stayed at aplace called the Oasis, and the
Oasis has got multiple swimmingpools.
(10:31):
They have outdoor swimmingpools, indoor swimming pools,
they have hot tubs, they havesplash pads, they have all kinds
of activities for kids andadults alike, and they also
sponsor our podcast.
I just sounded like I wasreading a commercial about them.
Thank you, um.
And so, anyway, I went to oneof the swimming pools called the
lazy river.
I love a lazy river.
(10:52):
Oh, it's so nice because, likethey have these these water jets
kind of in the bottom of thepool and the pool kind of snakes
around like yeah, like it'skind of shaped like an S, and
then it ends in this big, likethree foot pool that is at the
end of a big, long twisty slide.
So the kids can, you know, gooff the slide and the parents
(11:13):
can just float around the lazyriver, blah, blah, blah.
And so I started looking at allthese people and everybody was
sitting in their inner tube.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Oh no, you tried to be like the others, I did, I did
.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You tried to be like the others I did, I did, I tried
to be like the others, and thenmy sister saw from across the
way.
She was like oh dear, my sisteris trying to do something that
she cannot do, but in your mind,you can do it right In my mind.
I can totally do it.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Oh, this is just like a quick hop backwards.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yes, exactly, and I just have to pull it under me.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yes, I have to do a push-up, lifting all of my body
weight to bring myself into thisinner tube.
Yes, I can do this Right, andso I tried that and miserably
failed.
And so then, my sister, cameover to help me and we were both
laughing so hard that it waslike hard to make anything
happen.
And finally she goes just gofor it.
(12:06):
She goes, just put your butt inthere, just go for it.
And I was like okay, and so Idid, and I'm not exactly sure
what happened, but what I knowis that I ended up completely
under the water and I am notsure how I didn't crack my skull
.
I was going to say, did you hitthe cement?
(12:28):
No, I didn't, and and and I didthis weird like tuck and roll,
like this thing to try toprotect myself, and and the
water was freezing, cause it'slike October and even though
you're down at the beach, it'sstill kind of chilly at this
point.
And so I come up from theunderworld all soaking wet, my
glasses were everywhere, mybathing suit was everywhere, and
(12:51):
this woman came up to me andher little like swimsuit
cover-up, little sachet thingand she had like a martini glass
in her hand and she goessweetheart.
At least that was graceful.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Oh, no See, skinny pretty girls came.
Oh, they got it.
They got not all of them.
We love you if you are one.
Some of them.
They got to make a point to saywe saw you, don't they?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Mm-hmm.
And then she tried to make mefeel better about it by saying
it looked graceful.
And I'm like there's nothinghere that looks graceful, Like I
, please and thank you.
There's nothing here that looksgraceful.
So yay for falling and laughingat ourselves.
I didn't do as good as you.
I kind of was embarrassed and Iwas like, oh my God, I got to
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get out of the pool.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Oh, I would have been embarrassed in that in that
scenario too.
I don't know why it wasn't, itwas just like a moment in time.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
but of healing.
Yeah, I really believe that.
Why don't I just push that onyou Like it's an?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
you have been healed.
You have been healed, youstupid whore.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Accept it, you stupid whore.
I saw a video that reallyreminded me of you, not because
of the content, just because itfeels like something you would
be interested in.
So I'd love to share it withyou is this the thing that you
sent me this morning?
Oh no, but I do need to talkabout that.
I do, I do, I do.
Yes, okay, I mean, if there isa story that fits our
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demographic, it is this oh, oh,my goodness, what's happening
here?
Okay, here we go, here we go,here we go, here we go, here we
go.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
A sponge on a stick was used as toilet paper in
ancient Rome.
Now this thing was communal andstored in public restrooms
where many people would share it.
After use, the sponge wassupposed to be dipped in a
bucket filled with salt water orvinegar to clean it.
This helped disinfect it andprepare it for the next person.
(14:51):
Once cleaned, the sponge wasleft in the bucket or hung to
dry until needed again oh, um.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
so that was in ancient roman days, oh Uh-huh,
but it was called a communaltoilet sponge.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
A communal toilet sponge.
Wow, and is that how the BlackPlague started?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It must be.
I could not believe it when Isaw it, but again, I'd love for
you to read some of thesecomments.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
My first dude enjoyed it.
Bro, really gave me an idea toopen toilet business poor
spongebob.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Uh, you never failed to traumatize me, but I just
found it very interestingbecause I, you know, I mean
picture whether it's a stick oran actual device with a sponge
on it.
I guess you're just rubbing andgetting the stuff off, right,
yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I guess, I guess.
So I mean, it makes me think oflike a reusable baby wipe.
Yeah, that's disgusting.
You know, if you've ever wipeda baby's butt.
You don't want to reuse thatthing.
No, you don't.
But then again there areparents who believe in cloth
diapers and they just take it,wash it and reuse it.
So the Romans may have been onto something.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
What do you wash that out on?
There has to be like a basinoutside right.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You mean for a baby?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
diaper?
Yes, because it can't go inyour kitchen sink.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I don't know, I'm not a parent.
I'm just saying, oh Lord, weneed to ask our friends, who are
listeners, who are parents whouse cloth diapers or used cloth
diapers on your babies how doyou clean them?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
We need you to write in and tell us please.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Write in and tell us so.
You sent me a text this morningthat I have thought about
multiple times today and I'mreally, really excited that
we're celebrating your birthdayalmost a month after your
birthday and as part of yourbirthday celebration, I have
recommended that we watch thisdocumentary together.
So, your friend, tell me hisname again.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, his name is Daryl Anka.
Is his name Daryl?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Anka yes, so a woman has made a documentary about
Daryl Anka channeling anextraterrestrial called Bashar
yes, and we've talked aboutBashar the past couple of
episodes, and I am, I am really,really excited to watch this
documentary because apparentlyit contains all of the wisdom
(17:22):
that all of humankind needs tohear.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yes, and I've talked about him before.
Um, but I found it sointeresting that the timing of
me sort of finding out aboutBashar and Daryl Anka and that I
was so excited that this movieis coming out, or is out, it's
on, I think it's on Apple.
Uh, you can watch it.
Um, what's the name of it?
(17:45):
Kat?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Like hanging out with an extraterrestrial or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
It is something like that.
Let me look Interview with theextraterrestrial and what I
understand it is a documentaryabout Daryl Anka.
But this investigativejournalist actually was like,
okay, I need to know if this isreal or not.
And she had conversations withDaryl Anka and she was amazed at
(18:14):
how the information just flowed, like it really there was never
anything that stalled him.
Like it was just like theinformation flowed.
And I saw an interview justthis past week with him.
Like it was just like theinformation flowed.
And I saw an interview just thispast week with him and I don't
know if it was recent or if itwas just on my feed and was old,
but he basically said, like theteachings of Bashar really
(18:36):
boiled down to one idea and thatis be yourself Really, yeah, or
bring yourself forward.
And the point of that is whenwe do that, we begin to
recognize that we are part ofeach other.
But we also are chasing ourpassions in life, which I have
(18:59):
found to be a very common thingthat he brings up a lot.
So anyway, if you areinterested in all of that
craziness, it's called interviewwith the extraterrestrial and
it's on Apple TV.
We're going to watch it soonand we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, we're.
We're going to watch it soonand it's going to be one
question I have about thechanneling of Bashar.
That is a little bit hard forme and my um auditory sensory
receiving obstacles, um orifices, whatever the right word is, is
(19:34):
that when, when he channelsBashar, he always seems really
angry.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I know I'm with you.
There's a sensitive side to methat cannot like I'll find
myself scrolling and I have tokeep scrolling.
Yeah, it's like more aggressive, I think, than angry, but it's
super direct, sometimes like ifsomeone is like okay, but I
don't understand that andsometimes he'll go.
(20:01):
What makes you understand thatalmost like, um, what is that
guy on star Wars that you alwaystalk about Like Spock?
No, the guy who is the wisdomguy, oh, yoda.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It almost like it comes across like that where it
turns it back into a question.
You're like that's not, butalso like, if you can get
through that.
That is my only thing too, katis.
I feel too sensitive to watchit sometimes.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I do too, and I also.
It kind of triggers me toevangelical preaching.
You know how, like somepreachers, just it's like
they're so passionate about whatthey're talking about that I
feel like they're yelling at meand that's something that I've
noticed is a pattern in my life,especially with men, is that if
men are passionate aboutwhatever they're talking about,
(20:51):
I kind of get into like a like Iget, I start feeling a little
bit scared or a little bituncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I don't think what you're feeling is their passion,
because your body, in myopinion this is my opinion Uh, I
think what you're feeling isactual aggressive anger and
that's uncomfortable because Ihave plenty of men in my life,
and yours as well.
I'm sure that can be passionateand not come across in that
(21:20):
angry, screaming way, cause I'mwith you, cannot take somebody
just railing.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
No, yeah, that's a really, that's, I'm going to
really I'm going to contemplatethat.
Thank you so much, moose.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I do have a recommendation for you, though.
You can go on his website andread like all of his teachings,
if you're interested.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Oh, so I can.
I can hear it in the tone thatI want to interpret it.
Yeah, that's nice.
So I can hear it in the tonethat I want to interpret it yeah
, that's nice.
Well, you know, this wholedocumentary is an interview with
extraterrestrial and I had athought the other day, coming
back from my short beach tripwith my family, and it was this
I was in Buc-ee's, oh, and ifyou've been to a Buc-ee's, you
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know that everything is brandedBuc-ee's.
They have pajamas, they havet-shirts, they have cups, they
have lighters, they have beefjerky They've got beef jerky.
They've got nuggets They've gotdog leashes.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
They've got dresses.
I mean, let's stop.
And for our friends who are notin the United States or in the
South, because I think that'sthe majority of where Buc-ee's
are Explain what a Buc-ee is.
Kat.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Well, a Buc-ee.
I didn't know what it waseither until this phenomenon
happened, but apparently it's abeaver with buck teeth, and so
his name is Buc-ee, b-u-c, dash,e-e, b-u-c-e-e, and Bucky is
like it's just the head of thebeaver.
That is like the logo andeverything has him on it, and
(22:54):
it's basically like a gasstation had a child with Walmart
and everything came out lookinglike Bucky yeah it's true.
And it's like some of the foodis really good, like their
French fries are better thaneven better than McDonald's
French fries yes, like they'reso good.
So there's a handful of thingsthat Bucky's has that is really
(23:16):
really amazing.
But it is huge and it has like,if you want to get a pack of
gum, you've got like a wholeaisle and a half to choose from.
They've got every flavor, everycolor, every brand.
It's just a lot.
It's very American, like itfeels very American.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And it's like a destination.
So like I mean, if you're on aroad trip where you want to keep
moving, don't stop, Causethere's like a hundred gas
station aisles and it's going totake you an hour to get in and
out.
Yes, there are lines.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
There are tons of people.
I mean it's very, very crowdedall the time.
And so I was at Buc-ee's theother day and thinking to myself
if an alien were to come toEarth and Buc-ee's was their
first experience, Right, Wouldthat be representative of our
planet?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
It would be representative of the United
States.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yes, and that's also the conclusion that I came to.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that anyone, even just straight
up Europeans that come over andsee that, are like I mean they
probably would think it'ssemi-cool.
I mean it's not a dumb idea?
I'll tell you that no, clearlynot.
You've got people thatliterally will route their trips
(24:38):
to hit as many Buc-ee's aspossible.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yes, so it's a spectacle.
It is a spectacle and it'sbrilliant from a marketing
standpoint because my mom and Ishe bought two t-shirts, we
bought a sandwich, a burrito andsome chicken tenders and fries
and, I think, one drink and itwas $77.
And I'm like it's like Targetyou can't get out of there
(25:03):
without dropping a hundo, andit's like if there are 300
people in the gas station at alltimes, can you imagine the
profit that they're churning?
No Pretty wild.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So they actually pay really well too.
I heard someone say oh, that'scool.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
So I've seen it on their signs Like hey, the store
manager makes 125,000 a year.
I I mean they've got it like on, yeah, on their signs but I'm
like what do you got to do toqualify to be a bucky store
manager?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
golly I don't know, but I'll tell you this I don't
want to do it.
Do you know how many peoplesomebody's gonna have a problem?
Yep and they are.
It's not gonna be pretty.
That's a whole different levelof problem.
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
mean, yes, I do, and in this other thing that I'm
gonna bring, that's a wholedifferent level of problem.
You know what I mean?
Yes, I do, and this other thingthat I'm going to bring up is
also a whole different level ofproblem that I would really love
.
I would love to get your takeon.
So I was watching a collegefootball game recently and one
of the players on a particularfootball team I'm not going to
name who it was had.
You know how they have theblack stuff under their eyes,
(26:07):
like the black paint that Iguess helps make the glare from
the stadium lights Not so bad,or I don't really know what it's
for, but I think it's just warpaint.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But so it war paint.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So this guy had on war paint that was black and in
white writing.
Underneath his right eye itsaid kill, and underneath his
left eye it said kill andunderneath his left eye it said
everyone.
So it said kill everyone.
Oh, I've seen this guy.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Is this okay?
I don't think so.
I remember thinking the samething Like wait a minute, why?
Why is that Okay?
Do we know why?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I don't, I don't, I just to me it's like I know that
(27:08):
, like there's the whole idea offreedom of speech and all of
that kind of stuff and I don'tcontest that.
I think freedom of speech is awonderful affected by, by the
things that you say.
And I just wonder, I am curiousagain, I'm not saying like this
is horrible, I'm more curiousof like what are you trying to
portray, Like what are you doingand is it okay?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I agree, and it feels like it's just a little bit of
attention to.
I mean, here's where it comesfrom.
It looks like.
So what is?
This is from Yahoo sports, bythe way.
So what was Williamsreferencing with his eye black?
It likely referenced Alvin Mackand the famous football movie,
the program.
The 1993 movie was aboutseveral players from different
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backgrounds trying to cope withthe pressures of playing
football at a major university.
And one scene in which Mac iswatching film, he breaks down
his defensive assignments likeso Kill the quarterback.
Hit the tight end so hard hisgirlfriend dies.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Kill everybody, oh my gosh, I don't like that no.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
So anyway, it doesn't matter if it's from that or not
.
I agree, I don't want to seeall that Mm-mm.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Mm-mm, mm-mm.
I don't want to see all that.
I don't want to see all thateither.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Thanks for bringing that up.
I feel like that I rememberseeing that as well, but
completely forgot about.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Well, it's just been kind of like, it's just been
kind of itching in the back ofmy memory, you know, and it's
been me making me kind of golike I want to talk about this
with my bestie.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I want to go like hey , what do you, what do you think
about this?
Yeah, I don't like it at all.
Okay, we had a listener sharethis quote with us, and it has
been on my brain all day, and Iwould love for you to tell me
what this means to you, so thatI can know what it means to me.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Okay, water will seek its level, nature will have
free course and heart willanswer to heart by William Lloyd
Garrison.
Hmm, so what does it mean toyou?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well, I've read it a thousand times Water will seek
its level, nature will have freecourse and heart will answer to
heart, I mean to me.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
It says what will be will be in a lot of ways, yeah,
yeah, that's kind of how I takeit, because water will seek its
level.
Yeah, you know, like if, ifwater is happening up here and
gravity is, you know, water isgoing to go down, I mean it's
just that just is what's goingto happen and nature will have
free course.
(29:31):
None of us can affect nature.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I know I think about that all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Like none of us and it greatly affects us.
I mean, with all this hurricaneseason has been horrific,
horrific, and so it's basically,I think it's saying like you
can't control water, you can'tcontrol nature, and also like
like heart will answer to heart.
It's like I just think it isvery much like you you don't
(29:58):
have control I know that's whatI felt, and yet it was also kind
of nice to be like, oh yeahgood, I don't really want
control heard the other day thatabsolutely cracked me up
because my vacation with myfamily was really enjoyable,
(30:27):
like it was really great and, aswith most long-term encounters
with family, there were momentsof chaos and explosion and
fighting and anger and all ofthat.
And someone said to me well,you know the Ram Dass quote,
don't you?
And I was like what Ram Dassquote?
And they said if you believethat you are enlightened, spend
(30:51):
a week with your family.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yes, oh my gosh, I forgot about that quote.
It's so true.
I just spent time with mysister, adore her, went camping.
I, I get it.
There is like I think I textyou this, isn't it amazing?
Not about my sister at all.
I love you, alicia.
Um, but we were talking about,like, how different people can
(31:16):
have different experiencesgrowing up in the same family,
and I, just I was like I believeour family are our first
teachers.
Yeah, because you can't get awayfrom them, you don't really
have a choice, at like six yearsold, to be like you're annoying
.
Yeah, I'm out you know yeah.
You don't have that choice.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, I don't like the way you discipline me.
I'm peacing out.
You know it's like no, youdon't get to choose.
And I went and looked up thequote because I was like I'm so
I'd like to know a little bitmore about this and all of that.
And it said this.
It said the quote is often usedduring holidays when people may
feel anxious or emotionallychallenged by family dynamics.
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Family dynamics are often set inchildhood to your point and can
continue throughout life.
People may feel like they're nolonger the mature person they
think they are when they're backwith their family.
And I had a few, I had a fewmoments where I just had to step
away, like I was like I'm justgonna, I'm just gonna step away.
And to your point of like ourfamily are our first teachers.
I was hanging out with mynephews and going like we're all
(32:24):
they know.
Like like I mean yes, there'sschool people and stuff like
that're all they know.
Like like I mean, yes, they'reschool people and stuff like
that too.
But it's like since infancy, wesorry guys we're your tribe
yeah, exactly, you don't get to.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Whether you like it or not, like, your soul picked
this body and this family, sodon't forget that you got to
choose.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
That's what I believe .
Speaker 2 (32:48):
A lot of people say that we do choose who.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You know what our, who our teachers will be?
I don't, I don't remembermaking that choice whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I mean I guess I'm got pretty lucky, honestly.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yes, yeah, I think we both did yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Um, okay, so, speaking of our families and
death, um, we didn't talk aboutdeath, but I'm going to.
Um, so have I talked about theTikTok algorithm?
I've been stuck in, so I am notsure why, maybe because I'm
sure it has something to do withthe things like Google, but I
(33:26):
am stuck in the Tik TOKalgorithm of people sharing
their first symptoms before theywere diagnosed with cancer.
Oh, okay, so these are peoplewho've already been diagnosed
and, like, as a way to helpothers, they're saying, hey,
just I'm not saying you havecancer if this happened to you,
but, fyi, here were my firstsymptoms, which is super cool
(33:51):
that they even would take thetime to do that.
Yeah, really.
And so, as I've been likeexploring all of that, um, I've
just been like, so impressedwith the attitudes of these
folks who, many of them are,have terminal cancer and know
that you know they're sometimesin their twenties and thirties
and you know not that they'resharing everything on Tik TOK,
but their attitude is very likeI want to help others and I I
(34:16):
want to live my last days in abeautiful way.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
And anyway.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
So because I've been stuck in this algorithm, it's
just made me think a lot aboutdeath and a lot about how, as we
are in our midlife, we talkabout this a lot.
You know, that's when you startnoticeably changing, uh, your
body changing.
You are noticing aging and andall the different things that
(34:43):
happen as we get older, and Ithink, naturally, people our age
are losing their parents insome ways, or parents are sick.
But also, like the big scarymoments are when people our age
are like being diagnosed withthings that are terminal
illnesses or stuff they have tofight, and so all that to say, I
(35:04):
think, in your forties isreally in my, my experience is
when I have started going like,okay, what is this whole idea of
like death being a part of life?
You hear that phrase all thetime like, well, it's just a
part of life and it's like, well, that's cute and all until it's
somebody you really care aboutand then it's, you know, super
(35:25):
hard, and so anyway, I I havebeen exploring this idea of like
what if we take and again, I'mnot saying it's not going to be
hard when people we love die,but how do you really believe
that like it is a part of.
I need to embrace that that iscoming.
(35:45):
Have you had any experienceswith that of like thinking about
death more?
This is going to be a top ratedepisode.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yes, I think this is going to be one where people are
like that was really hilarious.
Bye, never listening again.
I don't.
I mean I I obviously have hadexperiences with death of people
close to me.
You know, my dad passed away,I've had relatives pass away,
I've had dogs pass away, I'vehad friends pass away, and so so
(36:17):
I don't know that my attitudeabout it has really those things
still have hurt.
Yeah, it's not like the older Iget, oh well, that doesn't
really hurt anymore becausedeath is a part of life.
Like, I don't subscribe to that.
(36:37):
And I was telling my mom theother day um, when we got home
from our trip, um, I was gettinga sweatshirt out of my closet
because it's starting to getreally chilly and I'm loving the
fall weather.
And and when I pulled thesweatshirt out of my closet, the
sweatshirt that was hangingright next to it, um, belonged
to our friend, steve Strout.
(36:58):
Oh, yeah, and it was a blueangels under armor sweatshirt
that that his wife, when she wasgoing through his clothes after
he passed, she was like Ireally think that this should
belong to Kat, you know, becauseI love the Blue Angels.
You know I like sporty lookingstuff, the whole nine yards and
I loved Steve, you know.
So she gave me that sweatshirtand I said to my mom, I said,
(37:21):
you know, I said I don't feellike anybody really prepared me
for friends my age dying yeahRight, I agree.
And she said, kat, she goes meeither, and she works for a
senior center, so she's workingwith elderly people and so she's
going to a funeral sometimesmore than once a week, you know
(37:43):
and it's like how in the worldare we supposed to cope with
this?
And I really, I really don'tknow.
I mean, I agree with thephilosophy death is a part of
life, just like the quote youread a little while ago, like
nature's going to do whatnature's going to do.
So, whether you like it or not,whether it's comfortable or not
, like nature's going to do whatnature does.
(38:04):
I don't know that, at least forme, that that makes me feel any
better about it.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, and I don't.
I don't either Like I.
I definitely think that thosefeelings are still there.
I think the piece that isbrings me somewhat comfort is
I've really come to believe thatwe are spiritual beings, really
come to believe that we arespiritual beings and, like, I
never really understood whatthat was until I feel, like the
(38:30):
past year, where I'm like, oh,that makes complete sense.
I don't know what changed forme, but it just makes sense now.
And so for me.
I used to have this fear and Iused to like, pray to God, like,
please, let me meet the peoplethat are in my life I'm close to
again in another life, like Iwould love to have those same
(38:50):
connections.
And the more I read and themore I explore, I think we do.
Like actually I've read oftenthose people are still in your
orbit in different ways, likeyou could be my kid in my next
life, which I would love, Iwould love, I would spank the
crap out of you, not in a dirtyway, just in like a mother child
(39:10):
way, um, cause you would be somouthy, I bet.
Anyway, I, that's my only hope.
It gives me a little bit ofhope is this idea of like this
isn't the last time we're allgoing to be hanging out.
You know Cause?
I mean speaking of our friendSteve.
You know we had this super coolsupernatural thing that
(39:30):
happened after he passed, wherewe had this encounter with a
frog, and I continue to havefrogs show up on my back patio.
I, uh, his wife will send mepictures of frogs that are
around their house.
Like Steve had no connection toanything about a frog while he
was alive, but I know in my soulthat is Steve showing up and
(39:52):
being like hey, I didn't haveenough energy to be a ghost, but
here, I am boo.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Well, it's like we talked about last week about the
angels, that that only aspecial type of angel has the
ability to move into thephysical realm, you know, to
like, show up, like as aphysical being, and it's like it
to me it there's got to be aconnection with steven frogs
like we don't know what it is,but like.
(40:19):
But he does, they do, and like.
There's something.
There is something reallybeautiful about that.
I would agree.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I remember you and I bought um his family a gift card
to this place before we left,after he passed away, just as a
way to make sure they had mealsand stuff, and even the logo on
this restaurant had a frog.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
I could see it in my mind's eye and it's like it's
just so bizarre.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
And yet everything about me, if I'm like rooted and
feel like I'm in a good,peaceful place because, yeah,
that's totally Steve Like Idon't know why say that this is
actually the dream, huh, whatwe're in right now is the dream,
(41:08):
wow.
And the spiritual place we areis the real thing, and I've only
experienced that under ketaminetherapy, but I have experienced
it where you just take a deepbreath and you're like, oh my,
it's like you just zoom out amillion miles and you're like,
oh, like you want to patyourself on the head and be like
(41:30):
I know you owe taxes, but it isgoing to be okay.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
It is going to be okay.
Yeah, and I've heard, I'veheard people talk about um,
psychedelic medicine, that waythat it's like there's something
about it that reveals kind ofthe truth of, of kind of who we
are as spiritual beings, havinga human experience.
You know, and, um, and, and I,just I, I that brings me hope,
(41:54):
I'm with you, like to think thatit's like, oh, all this is like
working together in some sortof micro macrocosm that all
makes sense, Like awesome.
I just want to steward it reallywell and I don't want my back
to hurt Like after I've slept ina foreign bed for a couple of
days.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
I totally agree.
So we'll.
We'll end with this amazingquote again water will seek its
level, nature will have freecourse and heart will answer to
heart.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I'm going to ask your heart a question from my heart,
please.
Okay, I just did oh withoutspeaking.
My heart spoke.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Okay, let me answer.
Yes, I am excited about havingdinner on Friday night for my
birthday.
I don't think that quote'saccurate.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yes, I am excited about having dinner on Friday
night for my birthday.
I don't think that quote'saccurate.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
What did you send to me?
I said I hope you know that Ilove you.
I see it was similar.
I love you too, you littlestinker.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Love you guys.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Thank y'all for listening.
Thanks for listening, guys.
Thanks for putting up with ourweirdness.
We love you.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Click subscribe.
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Speaker 2 (43:12):
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Speaker 1 (43:23):
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Speaker 2 (43:24):
Sarah Reed.
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