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July 4, 2024 42 mins

Why do we feel the need to hide our natural body hair? Join us for a thought-provoking conversation on the societal norms surrounding personal grooming. Producer Sara shares her journey of embracing her pit hair, and we all question why leg hair is often deemed unacceptable. And if you’ve been a long-time listener, you’ll appreciate our nostalgic return to the "animal den" recording setup and our lighthearted critique of musicians using iPads for lyrics.

Ever wondered who can win a first-place award for eating watermelon? Moose kicks off a series of hilarious stories, including a family prank involving a photo album of porcelain dolls. Our banter takes a creepy turn as we discuss the unsettling experience of Kat having dolls in a treatment room. The laughter doesn't stop there, as we eagerly anticipate attending a Sarah McLachlan concert—a night we’ve been looking forward to for months.

Politics, debates, and escape plans—oh my! We dive into the recent political debate, scrutinizing the candidates' performances and the effectiveness of muted microphones. We cover everything from Trump’s unexpected calmness to Biden’s fluctuating energy. Our conversation then shifts to the complexities of political leadership transitions and the importance of preserving democratic values. And for a twist, we even toyed with the idea of escaping to Canada, drawing humorous comparisons to "The Handmaid's Tale." Tune in for humor, reflection, and excitement for what's to come!

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast.
I'm Cat.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
And I'm Moose.
This is a true life podcastwhere we explore the quirks of
being human.
One, two, three, jesus Hi hey,cat Hi Moose, hey, sarah, hi Hi
Hi.
Welcome, okay, we're doing this.
We're a video podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yes, we're a video podcast and I'm not going to
look at the video because thenthat shows everybody my least
favorable angle.
I don't think there is one ofthose we are here to welcome
ourselves.
That's right All parts of ourbody.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yes, I have not shaved my legs, so so you're
lucky patrons.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
you get to see that part and neither has sarah, and
she's not mad about my gosh,what's happening with your?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I haven't shaved my legs and it's it's probably
almost two weeks.
It's bad.
Why is it bad?
Wait, who makes it bad?
I mean it just in the in as faras terms of length of hair on
legs, as opposed to normaltypical length of hair on legs.
Okay, it's bad, normal.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
But what makes it bad ?
What's wrong with your hairgrowing?
That's not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Well, remember that time you grew out your pit hair.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I did.
I tried it for the first timein my life.
I grew it out grown out yourpit hair.
I did, I tried it for the firsttime in my life.
I grew it out, grown out my pithair, and I think it lasted
maybe, maybe would you say likeseven or eight weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Why are you looking at me?
I didn't mark it down Like ohweek six.
Show it to me, and then we liketook pictures.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
I looked every day.
It was really exciting thefirst week or so.
Why the first week?
Well, just because it wasgrowing.
It's like growing a plant.
Look what I did.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Why are your leg hairs bad, though?
Because you're so proud of yourpit hairs.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
It just, it's the in-between, it's the in-between,
it's the in-between phase.
Do you still have long pithairs?
It's maybe a couple days old.
Oh, so you.
Okay, I did end up getting ridof those because it was rough.
It was rough for me.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, you said that ultimately it didn't work for
you, and I've noticed I have ahandful of people in my life
women, people who identify asfemale who just grow out their
pit hair or either just don'ttake time to shave it or
whatever and we talked aboutthis on the podcast months ago.
All the time.
I don't know why.

(02:39):
That feels strange to me.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, because it's a societal norm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why Imean it's a societal norm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why Imean it's the whole thing.
That's why I want to say to youI would like for you to have a
conversation with your leg hairsthat they are not bad.
Imagine being your leg hair.
Yeah, they don't want to becalled bad.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Here's the thing I had a conversation with someone
recently where I just had thisbig uh perspective shift and
trying to understand how mengrow facial hair all over their
face most men, all over theirface.
Every day it comes out thickand strong and mighty and mighty

(03:22):
.
They can't just have this skinlike we have.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, I've got the same thing around my mustache
and my chin.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
I do have a good little small beard going here.
Patchy is patchy.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I have a.
There's a guy that's in myimprov class who says he cannot
grow facial hair.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I've heard some guys yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
I've heard some guys say that too, that it's not
always like super easy Available.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Maybe we could do an implant from the legs to the lip
, not for us but for those whocan't.
No for those who can't.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
So I can say to my friend I have a donor for you.
Yes, Producer Sarah is willingto donate.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I didn't say that you just called her a whore.
I listened to last week'spodcast and I was like we went
off the rail we were off.
Definitely it was literally,like someone said here, take
these pills and go into a roomand hit record.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
It did feel like that , like when I was listening back
I was like we sound like we'reon drugs, like it, and I had so
much fun.
It was a blast.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Doing the drugs?
No, no, no, no, we didn't doany.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
No, I had so much fun listening back and I think that
I listened back to last week'sepisode three times.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Oh, wow, and I don't really liked it.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
No, it's not even that I liked it.
It's like I wanted to.
I wanted to experience it likein different moments, because I
really did feel like I wasoperating kind of on a different
plane or something Like we allwere it was fun.
It was, it was fun.
I feel bad for listeners.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
I do too, because I don't think it made any sense
like we were just like gettingused to sitting in our new
chairs and we were together.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
We haven't been together in a minute to record.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, we really haven't so we should tell our
listeners who aren't watching,yes, the video.
So we are now um recordingtogether, live and in person,
like we started in february of2020.
Yep, and we are now recordingtogether, live and in person,
like we started in February of2020.
Yep, and we are in the animalden.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Oh yeah, we had a friend and listener of ours.
Suggest that we call it theanimal den.
Oh, that's right, you are catand you are moose and you are
Sarah the animal and you areSarah the animal.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Rawr, that was good the same friend really kind of a
little bit kind of went on arant about the worship leader,
ipad and musicians looking atlyrics for shows and stuff like
that, and I think that, first ofof all, I would like to
apologize for seem so, seemingso disrespectful to people that

(06:11):
need to do that if you've got tomemorize like 90 songs yeah,
that's what she was saying,right, and?
It's like that to me is not whoI was thinking of.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
I was thinking you were so mad about the artist
that had written a song and hadto have it on their iPad.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yes, I was mad about the fact that it's like, okay,
you have like seven songs tosing, yeah, and you do it every
night, 120 nights a year, like Idon't, that's hard for me.
And then in my statement aboutthat I indicted myself oh, you
did.
And I said I have, as an artist, quote, unquote right podcast

(06:49):
person.
I have.
I have notes too and yours arewritten on paper.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, I mean it's adorable a little image, a
little walking tree, yeah yeah,so I I indicted myself too, so I
I don't know.
I'm really sorry well, you'refine and our friend loves us.
Still, she was simply saying asa musician, yeah, who plays
three hour gigs she's gotta haveall of her songs.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yes, I want to like give you all kinds of support
around that and if you couldn'tlisten to us screaming you
stupid whore to one another overand over last episode and
turned it off.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
You may not know what the worship leader iPad is, but
it's simply I have it in frontof me now that we're in a
recording video space and that'show I look at my notes, and so
that's what we're referring to.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
So as far as our space, can you talk a little bit
about the stuff that that isrepresentative?

Speaker 2 (07:44):
of moose okay, so let's see if I can do this
backwards.
So this, if you're watching thevideo, um, this right here is a
lisa congan art piece.
Uh, one of my favorite graphiccreators and artists.
It says protect the vulnerableI love that.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
That's one of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
This is also one of hers and, uh, I have some boxing
gloves behind me.
Yeah, if you know me, I have acompany that has to do with
boxing and that is important.
I got a cat and moose logo.
I got us behind my shoulder.
I got bonnie keeping an eye, mymom behind me.

(08:23):
What's up?
Can you, can you give my moosea little tap?

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Oh wow, Give me a tap .
Okay, see his little head.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
And then I have our fantastic award.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Behind us, the green jar.
If you know, you know.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, if you know.
You know, don't feel like goinginto that.
Yeah, me either, and Alicia,and I know Exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Okay and yeah, if you know you don't feel like going
into that, yeah Me either, andAlicia and I know Exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, and behind you, kat, can you give?
Yeah?
So I've got, um, I've got anacupressure model, um, my friend
who has one just like thiscalls hers Giovanni Shindo.
Yes, and so I'm.
I'm I, right now, I'm going tocall him the twin brother of
Giovanni Shindo.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
We talked about last week.
His loincloth has fallen off.
Yeah, it's gone.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
It's gone now.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Oh, yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Well, I'm just sorry, Moose.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Is this okay, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
I mean, I am a little distracted, but it'll work.
Okay, do you need me to move itlike I did last week?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
No.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Okay me that you guys gave me.
That says don't tell me what todo.
And he's got a cigarette, he'sgota a ciggy and a beer and it's
a cat with a collar on it andit's just very indicative of
like my, like, bad girl yourwild side yeah, my wild side.
And then I have this f-bombright here that was given to me
by a client.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Um, who's right?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
who understands that sometimes we drive each other so
nuts that the f-bomb is theonly correct word that we have.
Yep um.
And then I have a skull replica.
Replica, just it's fiberglass.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
It's not real okay, good, um what if you're like?
This is my aunt martha yeah, Ipainted her skull.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, um, yeah, so I could.
I could learn craniosacral ummodalities.
And then there's a book that Iwrote the daily verse Um.
I got a one of those reminderson Facebook seven years ago.
It showed a social media poststhat I did on Facebook and I was
still doing the daily verseseven years ago.
That's cool yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
That's surprising.
That book is from my mom'spersonal library and she would
have that next to her bed andshe would read it every morning
while she was having coffee.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I'm so honored by that, that's really cool.
Yeah, that's really cool.
Anything else over there.
Um, I've got books.
I've got the Holy Bible.
Um friend, lisa, gave me thisfrom her family archives.
I've got the adult children ofalcoholics, the ACA, the big red
book.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
I did not realize you brought that.
That's fantastic.
We're going to need to tap intothat.
Do you know that?
I?

Speaker 1 (10:59):
bought a copy of that for every member of my family
for christmas last year no waythat was two years ago, and
every every time somebody openedtheirs, they were like um,
thanks, like it yeah it's an odd, it's an odd thing to give as a
gift.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
It is an odd gift we speaking of bad gifts, and I
don't want wait.
Let me just comment on thatfirst.
Okay, what was the conversationafter that?

Speaker 1 (11:28):
With my family, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Um, cause the person you're referring to is no longer
alive, so it's not like it wasa pointing a finger to like your
mom or something.
Oh right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
My mom like my, I mean my mom like well, maybe
have a whiskey like once in ablue moon.
Like no, my mom is certainlynot an alcoholic and my dad was.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I guess what I mean is they weren't in the room, so
it wasn't that awkward Likewho's the alcoholic?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
No, no, it wasn't.
That part wasn't awkward, itwas just like it's Christmas
morning, like the boys stillbelieve in Santa Claus.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
It's like you're like I would like to approach all of
the family issues right now onchristmas morning, exactly merry
, fucking christmas like what aweird gift yeah, you know it is
weird, but also valuable.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
It's so valuable, I mean I and I have two copies in
my house and so I brought one ofthem here and then I've got an
animal power book and then I'vegot good to great, because it
really shaped how I, how I do my.
That's great, my business Ilove it.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Sarah, what about your background?

Speaker 3 (12:31):
okay, I've got I'm.
I'm struggling because mycamera's not straight on, so I'm
like mirrored and you're doinggreat thanks like your shot is
the best.
Thanks, um, I, you actuallymoose, gave me this.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Nope, this guy oh where's the finger Closer to you
?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
This one.
No wait, oh my God, there it isthere.
It is there, it is, it'smirrored, and I've not figured
out how to unmirror Anyway it'sa Mr Rogers quote.
I also have Mr Rogers back here.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yep, there he is.
Are his ashes in there?
No?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Is he?

Speaker 1 (13:16):
still alive?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
No, he died, he died.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I thought so.
Does it feel good when you'rejust about to do something that
you know is wrong and you decideto do something else, something
that won't hurt you or anybodyelse?
Doesn't that feel great it?
Does feel great.
We are talking about nothingnew on this podcast.
What?

Speaker 3 (13:37):
do you?

Speaker 1 (13:37):
mean he said that like decades ago.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, agreed, yeah, decades ago.
Yeah, agreed, yeah, okay.
So then I also have my my firstplace award for eating
watermelon.
This is the coolest award I'veever won in my life?
Yes, Um, I never actually gotit, uh, when I was a child,
because I think I cheated, butsomehow I won the first place

(14:02):
for eating watermelon and no oneever gave me an award for it.
So these guys did and got me.
Cause we think you're a winner.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I mean, that's a cool award.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
It's very cool and just for most clarity, that was
all news.
I had nothing to do with that.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
That is not true.
We discussed it.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
We did discuss it and we both paid for it.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Oh yeah, I forgot that part.
I love plants a lot.
This plant technically belongsnext to the kitchen sink,
because I've just learned that'swhere its home is, because it
needs to be watered quitefrequently and anyway, so I gave
it some water today.
It's sad, but I love this plantit's a great plant there's some

(14:47):
marbles back here.
This has to do with um a bobgoff thing.
You've lost your marbles.
No, I can't remember it rightnow, but I it was really
important.
I'll come back to that at somepoint.
I've named her, and thenthere's this doll head.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Right, which is so creepy?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Weird, it's weird.
I got moose.
There's an episode post on this, so basically I have a huge
fear of porcelain dolls, as youshould.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
And as a reminder, my sister and mom speaking of
weird Christmas gifts, kat, formy birthday they gave me an
entire photo album full ofporcelain dolls that they
positioned.
I mean, it must have taken themmonths to create this photo
album, but it's an old schoolphoto it was printed out from

(15:40):
Walgreens of porcelain dollssitting around the house eating
in front of food that was theirgift to me.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
That is that is so good.
It's the intentionality andthat is just stunning, do you?
Did you feel so?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
seen, I did I.
And they didn't even like handit to me in person.
They mailed it to me with withthe porcelain doll that they
found.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
I mean, come on, it's like they pretty much invented
elf on a shelf.
That's so funny.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
But see, when I was young, my mom I know, my
grandmother got me thisporcelain doll and it scared the
hell out of me, so my mom hadto hide it.
And somewhere in all of thesemoves they found this porcelain
doll.
And I mean, yeah, I agree.
Like, instead of just beinglike let's mail it to her.
They're like no, what is onestep further, let's create her
worst nightmare.

(16:31):
Yes of yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
So it was just a photo album of porcelain dolls
being posed in weird I mean thatI wish I had known that before
and I just think that that is sofantastic and it's a part of
what makes you you oh yeah, Ireally think they're weird.
I feel like they're, they watchyou do you know that I have two
dolls in my treatment room?

(16:53):
I do porcelain dolls.
I don't think they're porcelain, why what?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
kind of dolls are they?

Speaker 1 (17:00):
yeah, that's a fair question.
Well, I think they're plasticwhy well?
I helped is this where?

Speaker 2 (17:06):
you go, let me show you what is a good touch and a
bad touch wow, and then and thenyou say and if you feel me
giving you a bad touch, let meknow oh my god, like that's so
terrifying it's terrible, it'svery terrifying.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
I would like to completely pivot from dolls no,
why are there dolls in the?
Room.
It's important because I washelping my friend um dispose of
some stuff she was ready to letgo of and I thought the box that
the dolls came in was reallycool because it's super like
vintagey and so I'm using it aslike a a stand.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I'm not ever getting body work from you.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Nobody will now.
All my clients are like theyjust drop, like flies.
You start getting reviews.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Like excellent body work session, but gotta be
honest, won't be back.
She had porcelain dolls liningthe walls of her studio.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
They're not lining the walls.
They're not lining the walls.
That is awesome.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Now can I the walls, and it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Now can I pivot to a different thing, please?
This week I am getting to haveexperiences with two of my
favorite artists.
One is coming up tonight.
I'm going to see SarahMcLachlan.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
No, we are going to see Sarah McLachlan.
Yes, we have been talking aboutit for months.
Yes we've been talking about it.
We are going to see SarahMcLaughlin.
Yes, we have been talking aboutit for months.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yes, we've been talking about it and I'm so
excited that the show is tonight.
Me too.
I bought us chairs ahead oftime, rented us chairs ahead of
time, we rented parking spots sothat we can like be close.
Like it's going to be afantastic time it's going to be
so fun.
Yeah, it's going to be hot as amotherfucker, hot as fuck so I
was thinking like it might be agood idea this afternoon to go

(18:48):
to like prime iv or 615 drip orwhatever and get some that idea
get some fluids, like seriously,because we're gonna sweat our
balls off.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
I actually am into that, yeah what?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
why does this stress you out?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
well, last time you I've got a lot of feelings.
It was the magnesium.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Are you sure?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yes, it got me so sick Last time you did this you
were sick.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
They won't be able to find my veins and they never
can, so that sounds horrible.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Well, this is not a good idea then.
Anyway, we're going to go seeSarah McLachlan tonight.
That's going to be really fun.
It is, and this week I amCeline Dion.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
You are her.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
No, oh that documentary came out.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
It's called I am oh yeah, she says you did just say
this I am.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Celine Dion yes, I am , which I think in the Bible.
Well, in the Bible, you knowwhen, when Moses says like who
are you?
I am, I am, that I am.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
So I am who I say I am.
Is that in the Bible?

Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's something like that.
It's like I am, that I am.
It's very confusing, kind oflike the Pauline epistles, like
I do the things I don't want todo, because I don't want to do
the things that I do.
I wrote a song about that asong about that.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh yeah, we'll insert it right here oh yeah, do you
want me to find it?
I'll just tell you how it goes.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Okay, one, two, three why do I do the things that I
do, that I know I don't want to?

Speaker 2 (20:17):
do.
That is fantastic it's kind oflike my um.
I am not in charge.
I am not in charge.
I am not in charge, I am not incharge.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I am not in charge.
I am free of responsibility.
I am free of responsibility.
Okay, so we're gonna do thedang it?

Speaker 2 (20:35):
the epistle, what is it?
The paul?
The pauline epistles paulineepistles pauline why do I do the
things that I do?
That I know I don't want to doI just came up with it one day
it is so brilliant.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Thank you, it's absolutely brilliant.
And celine basically said I amceline dion and so I just
thought it was interesting, okay, and the documentary I felt
like was absolutely like.
I just let myself getcompletely sucked in by it okay,
wait.
So you've already seen it yes, Iknow she saw it without us I

(21:09):
did and I didn't know I wassupposed to wait I didn't know
that I was supposed to wait,okay, um and I have a feeling
you would watch it again with usI will watch it again with you
several times if you want.
I just thought it was reallyreally good, okay, and I also
thought that her perspective,like her human perspective, was

(21:32):
very interesting, and also to melike she's an anomaly, an
enigma, because she's got awarehouse that is her wardrobe.
It's literally a warehouse.
Why?
Because she's got so manycostumes, like so many, and she
talked about like how, um, herclothing designers, like it's

(21:56):
fascinating.
It was a really I've enjoyedthe documentary, so into
watching that.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, I would love to watch it too, I think I I have
a fear I would like to talkabout, though.
Okay, on one of trailers it washer like weeping and it was on
Instagram or whatever, but shebasically was like somebody said
your fans want to see you singagain, celine, and she goes oh,

(22:24):
it was like all these clicks andstuff, and then she was like I
will sing again, yeah, which Iloved, but there was a lot of
crying and and the trailer, andI was traumatized, not by that,
by Lady Gaga's documentary.
Did you see that?
No, it's probably eight yearsago or something.

(22:46):
Okay, but the entire time and Ilove Lady Gaga, but the entire
time she was in ice bathsscreaming her brains out, and it
was a huge trigger for mebecause I was like, Lord have
mercy, Like it was just her inconstant pain all the time and I
was like how about we not dothat to ourselves?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Right, right, like that's a choice.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
This is not when we're winning, when our body is
collapsing, you know, and so Igot fearful that was going to be
a lot of her in pain, and I'msensitive to that.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
So was it um, there there are a couple of moments
where she has like aquote-unquote episode, i't know
and I'm trying to be respectfulabout it, I don't know what to
call it it was.
It was a physical it seemedphysical and emotional release
of pain, probably pain and andalso this like neurological

(23:40):
disorder that just kind ofseizes her body.
And what I found so hopefulabout it is one of the people
that was there with her is abody worker.
Oh wow, and I just kind ofthought like okay, like I, like
I was just so glad that she'sable to resource herself with
that kind of support, like shehad lots of support around it,

(24:03):
so it just really, I don't know,it just made her very human to
me and I she's one of thosepeople, one of those celebrities
that I also want to be likeimmortal, like, yeah, like not
even human, because she's sogreat, like such an icon, you
know.
Um, so I really enjoyed beinginspired by artists who I love

(24:26):
this week, not to mention myclients and the music that we
get to work with.
You know, it's like I just feellike I've gotten to have a real
um inspired week.
I love that.
That's fine.
Thanks for listening I'mexcited.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Uh, we, the three of us, realized.
So there's like six of us goingtonight.
Yes, um, and the three or fourof us within that six realize
that feist is opening.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yes, oh, my god, I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I know I haven't heard feist's name in forever.
I have any.
What's her?
What's the big song?
One, two three, four.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Tell me that you love me more.
Do you want me to play?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
yeah, yeah, I mean her vocals fantastic, and then
also Alison Russell.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, it said Alison Russell was going to be there,
so is Sarah going to go on atlike 10?
I think so, man.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
I hope she's okay yeah we're going to be wasted by
then.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
We're going to be so hot.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
It's going to be hot Wasted from the heat we were
outside earlier, earlier, likejust at nine something, and
literal sweat drops just alreadyfalling.
It's so my my knee pits aresweating oh yeah, mine are too
right now.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Okay, a couple things I want to cover, and this part
sarah, if you could set an alarmfor two and a half minutes,
that is the most I want to talkabout.
This got it.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
No, I, I got it I got it just in your mind you can
have, it okay, two and a halfminutes can we talk about the
debate?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
oh boy, we have to talk about this now.
Last week I I really enjoyed mykind of okay, here are three
candidates, you know a felon, aguy with a worm in his brain
right and a guy that's ineuphoria at random times okay,
so like that just sets the stagefor the debate.

(26:22):
What, what did you think?

Speaker 2 (26:24):
oh my gosh, it was so uncomfortable.
There were so many great memesafter the fact, and one of my
favorites was um uh, hey, siri,why does suffering exist?
Every one of my devices justanswered the question.

(26:47):
Suffering could be the resultof natural evil, including
earthquakes, disease or humanevil, war and injustice.
Okay, thank, you.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
What I'm curious about is what is unnatural, evil
, agreed?

Speaker 2 (27:01):
good point, maybe like um, maybe like sucralose or
something, I don't know um.
Okay, so back to the debate.
So, um, I was uncomfortable 90%of the time.
I was surprised.
These are just my top linethings.
I was surprised at how chillDonald Trump was like definitely

(27:21):
gave him a Xanax Thought.
It was brilliant that theyturned off the mics while the
other one was talking.
I actually liked that themoderators from CNN did not try
and fact check it.
They just let the two peopletalk.
Yep, I know a lot of peoplewere not fans of that, but I I
didn't mind it.
Um, I thought Trump was in asnormally.

(27:45):
I mean he wasn't as insane asnormal, but like nothing he said
like actually had any substance.
And then Biden I just felt badfor the whole time yeah me too.
I don't think he knew his mouthwas open when he was listening.
I mean, I, I I love Biden, andyet I was like I am not
comfortable with him being thepresident.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, it's.
And then they they put him outin the wild the next day and he
was totally fine.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Well, he was like yelling yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I just energy.
I have, and not that Iquestioned that but it's more
than pick the right environmentfor the guy Like, or.
I mean sure you can't avoid thedebate space in the room and
all of this, you know, but let's, let's market him when he's in
his best light.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Then yeah him when he's in his best light, then
yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's one thing tosay you have a everybody's like
.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well, obama's first debate was bad.
No, no obama.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I mean obama, it was not good.
I'm not saying it was great,but it also.
He said things that you couldfollow.
He was coherent.
Yeah, he wasn't just likegrunting half the time.
I was surprised trump didn'tmake fun of him.
I'm glad he did.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I didn't either, I was.
I mean, I agree, yeah, yeah,it'd be because he could have
and he even a couple of looks hemade.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
He caught himself.
Yeah, I'm not giving trump anycredit.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Let me just say that I was like wow, somebody swung
your book.
Somebody, you know nobody.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Hell, no, but hell.
No to the na-na-na, but hell noto the na-na-na.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Have you heard that song?
It's so good.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I'll throw it in.
I guess my final point eventhough I've gone over the time
limit, because I still want tohear yours is you know, all the
commentators after the fact werediscussing somebody.
We got to put somebody else inthere.
But it's not that simple, right?
You can't just like, oh, let'sgo get Pete Buttigieg, buttigieg
, buttigieg and put him in.

(29:50):
It's not that simple.
And then they had kamala onevery single evening show, late
night show, morning show.
The next day she's in la doingall this press and it's like are
you gonna slide her in there,which I'm not mad about a lot of
people are.
I love her talking about women'srights yeah, me too and there's

(30:11):
about 65 of america notrepublic, not, you know,
including republicans that arebig fans of women's women being
able to do what they want withtheir own bodies.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Right, I just think that, like when it comes down to
being the leader of, quoteunquote, the most powerful
nation in the free world.
Yeah, women's rights areimportant yeah, I would say so.
We're at least half of thepopulation it's not the only

(30:41):
issue I understand but and to meit's like what I want to hear a
little bit more about like, howare we going to navigate, not
getting eaten alive by china?

Speaker 2 (30:54):
well, by the way, we just were.
We just showed china and therest of the world that come on
in, boo, ain't nobody payingthat much attention, we're just
eating gummies over here.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
I know I mean that's what it feels like and it's like
, oh my gosh, like to me it'slike women's rights and this and
that and it's all veryimportant, but it's like I feel
like nobody's talking about,like, are we going to be able to
exist as a democratic societyright in the next couple of
years?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
no, I don't disagree.
But also if we lose our rightsto our bodies, that that is the
beginning of Handmaid's Tale.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yes, Thank you.
Thank you, what's it called AnAryan society?
Yeah, I think.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
I don't want to be a part of that.
I do not want to.
We're going to Canada.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yep, I'm fine.
I mean you could get dualcitizenship.
I keep begging you Get somedual citizenship.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
How is it that you can do that?

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Apparently, because my grandparents are Canadian,
we're Canadian.
That is so cool.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I know.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
If I had that, I'd be like I mean, you need to get
busy yo.
That's what I'm talking about.
She can sneak us across theborder when things get rough,
we're going to need it, I'll beJune.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Wait, I don't want to be June.
I'm not signing up for that.
No, wow, okay, wait, can yougive us?

Speaker 2 (32:22):
your best, June.
Look though it's great.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Okay, here's mine if you watch handmaid's tale for or
anything Elizabeth Moss is in.
Yeah, that is her look, that'sher.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Look, I'm into it.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, but it became too much.
The thing is is I know thiswoman's face better than I know
my own mother's.
Correct, Correct, you know whatI mean Exactly.
And like I was a breastfed baby, okay.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Wow, Wow oh wow.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
I was a breastfed baby.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Okay, wow, oh wow.
I'm just saying, do you?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
know her breasts better than your mother's.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
No, no, I hope not so weird, but her face.
I mean, it's like if we tookout all of the shots of her face
, yeah, all of these episodescould be condensed into like 30
minutes that's so true and tellquite a story.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Think yeah, it's like whenever they're like oh, that
shot, we shot, didn't work, justput elizabeth's face.
It's like our wide shot, yeahso when we go to canada, which
which crossing do you think weshould go through?
Like are we going acrossNiagara Falls?
Cause we're just acting coolLike we're tourists?

Speaker 3 (33:56):
I am not going across Niagara Falls.
That is so scary, and no, no.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I mean like the border not actually Niagara
Falls or are we going like?
Montana.
We go on like Calgary, what's?

Speaker 3 (34:08):
the Washington, Washington, Washington state
Cause they're already cool, Okayso in case they kick us back in
.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
It'll take a while for people to get to Washington
State.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
At least we can commit legal suicide.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Oh, that's true, they do have legal suicide.
That's a great point InWashington, yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Or is it Oregon or both?

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I think it's Washington.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, I think those two states.
I don't want to do that either.
It's an option.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
We're talking about options.
We're wearing red capes at thispoint.
Shit, we're, we're in.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
We are that is the point I was trying to make sarah
is now with us.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Okay, wait, are the red capes the wives, though?
Oh no, it's the actual the red,yeah, teal is the.
What are the wives that?
Are yeah, okay, do you?
Can you guys think of anyfriends of ours I or maybe not
friends, people we know who willbe the wives of the men taking?

Speaker 1 (35:09):
over.
Yes, yeah, me too, yeah,absolutely, oh, yeah, yeah, I
could picture them in that tealtoo.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, yeah, I look good in red though so I'm happy
about that.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, you look great in red and I I don't look good
in either of those colors.
I want to jump back to canadaand celine dion for just one
second.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah, we are in podcast.
Yeah, hi, leslie canada.
By the way, we're huge fans ofyou.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
I get to go at the end of the month.
I'm so excited.
Oh, that's so cool.
Yeah, what for?
I get to go to toronto for ashow of one of my artists is
going to be doing.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Well, great toronto hey, maybe you can.
Oh yeah, maybe I can just stopby the toronto embassy and say
hey, things are getting badsouth of here, hey what are just
getting my plan in place.
Do you guys have a?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
shelter I could go ahead and rent for about four
friends that look great in redyeah, yeah okay, back to toronto
and celine yeah, so celine d?

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Celine Dion's from Canada, and I just wanted to
mention a quote from herdocumentary that I should have
inserted earlier.
You stupid whore.
Damn it, damn you.
She said if you want to go fast, you go alone, If you want to
go far, you go together.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Oh, come on, Isn't that great, that great.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
I thought it was too I thought it was super like.
Needs to be on like a statuesomewhere I agree, maybe the one
behind you, maybe him put itright there on his feet for you
with him.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah, have you ever been to a Celine show?

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
With Mary Mac yes.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, I've been to two with Mary Mac.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
So is she performing?
Not yet she's not, but you willbuy like $500 tickets.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Absolutely when she performs, absolutely, yep, I I
bought a $500 ticket with afriend of mine who is like kind
of a big deal in the musicindustry now.
I'm so, so proud of her.
When I met her she was anintern and now she's like
running the world in the countrymusic space.
But anyway, when Celine wasplaying here in town years ago

(37:26):
we went last minute to the boxoffice like as the show was
starting, oh cool, and paid likehundreds of dollars and we were
like, oh really, we were likeas close as elizabeth moss's
face to celine dion and it wasfantastic it was.
It was such a good show and Imean we were right there.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
It was so great would you say she's your favorite
artist.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Good question no, oh no.
I I'm really inspired by her alot, I think you really like how
she pounds her chest I like herpassion.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, I mean, it's weird, it's we, it's we well, we
know it's weird, but it's alsoinspiring it's very inspiring to
me.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I would say my favorite artist is probably
Sarah McLachlan.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
We are going tonight my favorite artist of all time.
I mean Brandi Carlo Just isthere, you go how about you,
Sarah.
But of all time, yeah, I meanlike yeah, I mean I think you
have a new one.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
I have a new one right now.
Her name is Noga Erez,n-o-g-a-e-r-e-z.
Everybody go look her up.
She's so freaking creative.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Noga Erez, so fun you got your start because of the
Cat in the House podcast.
Yeah, you did.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
She is an Israeli hip-hop artist.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah yeah, she's so freaking creative I'm obsessed.
I've been obsessed for likeprobably six or eight weeks now,
maybe more.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
We're going to see your favorite artists tonight.
I know together it's going tobe so fun.
I'm excited.
I really need to figure out howto you think I could put a fan,
one of those personal fans.
Hey, you bought some, I know.
We should get those charged, Iknow, but can we bring them into
the concert?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
It doesn't say you can't.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
As long as it fits in my clear bag, as long as it
fits in your clear bag.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
That's 16 by 13, by three or something.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
I know the whole thing is so stupid.
We have one of those, we'regood, I'm not taking anything.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I'm taking my phone.
I have a bag Okay, clear bag ifyou need to put anything in
there, great, yeah, I'm, I'mreally just taking my phone.
So they?
This is the place at Ascend.
Amphitheater in Nashville whereyou can get a bottle of wine
delivered to your lawn chair.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, it's really neat, it's cool.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
How have we determined how you're going to
keep it cold Cool?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
No, what the what?
The wine, what the what?
The wine oh no, they bring itto you and it comes in a chilled
, yeah, yeah, but she can'tdrink it all.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
I mean she just, I mean I could and I would be the
one.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Your love is better than mine, oh my God, did you
have your video on you for that?

Speaker 3 (40:19):
only patrons get that .
Wow, damn, I've never seen youlike that.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
It was ice cream was it oh, it was ice cream, that is
not how it you were making loveto that ice cream.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
That's what I, with your also felt okay.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Well, it's been a great episode guys, I love you
both and I'm so glad that wehave this new environment that
you guys created.
I mean, you guys how about you.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
You brought all of your fabulous things behind you.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
We have a whole it's a.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
We are just trying to honor you.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
We honor you.
Thanks, and the scrotum behindyou.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
It's the power.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
It's the power.
All right, get working on that.
Canadian dual citizenship.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
We need you, Sarah.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
We need you, all of us.
If you are worried about beinga handmade right end, sarah will
be our um liaison liaison.
Hey, and we, and we and Sarahwill be our liaison.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Liaison.
Hey might make some money andwe shall tell a tale.
I think that's illegal to pay.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
You would be like a coyote bringing us across the
border.
A pimp, no, that's what theycall in Mexico.
They call them coyotes.
They help you come across theborder.
Huh, okay, I think it.
How much are you?

Speaker 3 (41:28):
going to charge.
We can come up with anotheranimal name.
We are in the den after all.
We are in the animal den.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Welcome to the animal den, the lion's den.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Daniel's lion's den.
Protect the vulnerable.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Bye guys, have a good week, bye, bye.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Special thanks to our producer.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Sarah Reed.
To find out more, go tocatandmoosepodcastcom.
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