December 10, 2024 • 44 mins
Ever wondered how a simple game of Rummikub could lead to heartwarming family tales and laughter? Join us as we welcome Producer Sara back to the Kat and Moose podcast, where we celebrate her birthday and share stories from Thanksgiving. From Kat's nephew's amusing attempts to mimic her playful antics to Moose's unforgettable family moment involving her sister and Sara's mom, we explore the nostalgic charm of family gatherings around a beloved oak table. Our conversations transcend mere storytelling, inviting you into a world where memories are made and cherished.
What is the distinction between being kind and being nice, and how do these choices reflect our desire to avoid conflict? Drawing inspiration from Martha Beck, we discuss the importance of staying true to oneself and setting boundaries that preserve integrity. As we ponder Chinese five element theory, we uncover the surprising ways expressing emotions like anger can lead to clarity. Our exploration takes a humorous twist with a playful debate on the pronunciation of "cesspool"—because sometimes, effective communication begins with a laugh.
In the final segment, we navigate the intricacies of communication boundaries in professional settings, the implications of a shocking news story about the UnitedHealthcare CEO, and the intriguing phenomenon of an AI-powered Jesus introduced by a Swiss church. A personal tale of healing through a unique foot treatment opens the door to galactic astrology and divine wisdom, revealing unexpected connections to the cosmos. As always, our journey is fueled by curiosity and discovery, inviting you to embrace your unique path alongside us.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast.
I'm Cat and I'm Moose.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
This is a true life podcast where we explore the
quirks of being human.
Hey Cat, hey Moose, hi, sarahis back.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Sarah and block colors yes, yes, you look good,
sarah, oh thank you your new agelooks good on you oh well,
thanks, happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm much older now, more refined, thank you, yes
more refined more refined, as ifa diamond refined by fire.
God's fire.
Yes, god's fire, yes indeed.
God's fire the fire of the HolySpirit, the fire of the saints.
Hey, anyone have anyThanksgiving drama?
(00:55):
No, thank God.
No, really, kat, you didn'thave any.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
No, oh, come on, I really don't I mean okay, yes, I
do, actually I do Come on.
So I have two nephews.
They're both wild and awesomechildren.
The youngest one, his name, isCaden, and Caden, over the past
several visits to my mom's, hasbeen learning how to play
Rummikubes.
I love that game.
(01:23):
With an S on the end yes,rummikube, learning how to play
rummy cubes.
I love that with like, with ans.
Yes, rummy cube.
Well, I mean, that's what Icall it, is it rummy cube?
I don't know, I call it, I justam adding the s.
Well, rummy cube.
So anyway.
So he's really learning theknack and the rhythm of how to
play and like what somestrategies are and stuff like
that.
And he's six, so like, so, like.
It's not, it's not refined likeSarah's diamond by fire in her,
(01:49):
her golden age.
And so um, and so what I'll dois I'll mess with him and it is.
It's so fun for me Like, forexample, if you've got like a
black 10, 11, 12, 13,.
What I would do is I would takeif I had like a black 10, I
would.
What I would do is I would takeif I had like a black 10.
I would take my black 10 andput it on top of the black 10
(02:09):
that's already on the board andjust wait until he noticed, oh
that's, and then he would belike.
He would be like Andy, do thatyeah he's like you can't do that
, and so I'd be like what?
And?
And so it just really tickledme and so anyway, so when he
would play, he's so little andmy mom has this beautiful,
(02:31):
wonderful round oak table that'sbeen a part of our family for
like centuries, you know, and sowhen it would be his turn to
play, he would have to crawl upon top of the table and like
crawl to the playing board andplay his numbers or whatever,
and his parents were likefreaking out because like he's
climbing all over the table andmy mom's, of course, like I
don't care, and it was justreally cute.
(02:52):
So, anyway, my mom told me thatafter I left they stayed for a
couple more days, my sister andher family, and my mom said that
after I left that when theywere playing Rummy Cube together
with him, that he was doing theexact same thing, that I was in
the exact same way, that I wasdoing it, and it's like he he
wanted to like kind of pokeeverybody and harass everybody,
(03:16):
like Naughty Auntie did, and Ijust thought that was just cute
as shit.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That is so cute.
He was following your lead,trying to be funny.
Yes, so it's drama lead tryingto be funny.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yes, so it's drama, but it's good drama.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
You know, it's only because most of my family is
dead that I don't haveThanksgiving drama, because I've
never had a Thanksgivingwithout drama looking back.
But so at our Thanksgiving itwas me and Sarah and my sister
and Sarah's mom, and Sarah'smom's name is Leslie, and I just
(03:50):
have to say that because ofwhat I'm about to share, and so
I think it was like the firstChristmas or Thanksgiving that
they had met, maybe like fouryears ago and this.
So this isn't a recent drama,but I don't think I've ever
shared it, but it's funny enoughand far away enough to share.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Enough time has passed it's so, um, they had met
before and so there was alittle bit of familiarity.
And my sister's a little bit ofa like jokester and she likes
to poke at things like I do andum, and so you know, like her,
her way of letting people knowthat she loves them is to kind
(04:33):
of pick on them in a funny way.
Well, I remember we were allstanding around like the the
middle Island in the kitchen and, um, you know, getting ready to
eat or something like that, ormaybe we were eating hors
d'oeuvre or something like that,and, um, I guess Sarah's mom
(04:54):
let out like a sigh or somethingthat suggested whatever was
happening Wasn't okay, happeningwasn't okay.
And out of my sister's mouthcomes quit, your bitching,
leslie.
Oh wow, and I I turned thinkingwhat is happening right now?
(05:15):
Yeah, and Sarah's mom didn'tquite get that.
My sister was being playful andI just remember moaning myself
and then walking out of the roomlike what just happened.
But I think my sister and thenshe just like threw a chip in
her mouth, like you know whatyou bitching about now and um,
(05:35):
anyway, I've wanted to make at-shirt that says that.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Since that happened, and and did your sister get like
what she was looking for?
It sounds like it kind of it,kind of yeah, but I don't think
she cared.
I don't think she cares.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Really, that's what's great about your sister.
Get like what she was lookingfor.
It sounds like it kind of it,kind of yeah, but I don't think
she cared.
I don't think she cares really.
That's what's great about mysister.
My sister is the version of methat I want to be like.
She literally does not carewhat people think.
Wow.
I mean I'm sure that she's hadher moments, but she really
doesn't.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You know now that you say that, I would say there's
something similar between me andmy sister Not the same thing.
But I'm very worried and veryanxious if I set a boundary or
if I say no, or if I well, if Iset a boundary or I say no, I
worry about that, especiallywhen it's within my family, like
(06:24):
I'm better and better at it thefurther out you get.
You know, I'm like, oh, I canset boundaries, great with these
people out here.
But it's like the closer youget to the inside, the harder it
is for me to set boundaries.
And my sister has absolutely noproblem whatsoever setting a
boundary.
Really, yes, that kind ofsurprises me.
Yes, like, for example, she'llgo to my mom's and she'll say,
(06:48):
just so you know, we're going toleave at two o'clock on Sunday,
and my mom's like, great, great, you know where?
if I go to my mom's and I sayI'm planning on leaving around
two on Sunday, for some reason Ifeel like you know, like you've
always been this way, like Ifeel, like I've disappointed the
whole world and it just isfascinating to me that, like we
(07:12):
come from the same parents withthe same upbringing, just 4.7
years apart, or whatever it is4.2 years apart and like she can
seta boundary like nobody'sbusiness, like how is it that
our sisters have got thesequalities that we yearn for?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I don't know, but what are you afraid of?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
we have to coach this no, I don't want to coach this
right now are you sure I'mpositive, it's really timely, it
feels very timely no, don'twant to coach this right now,
just want to talk about oursisters.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Okay, I'll let you think about it, I'll let you
pray about it.
Um, I will say I think I'm back, oh good, uh, you want to say
anything about what my sistersaid to your mom?
No, I I.
Now that I think about it, Ithink it is quit your bitch.
And Leslie, I mean, who'ssomeone which honestly would be
(08:06):
a great t-shirt?
Yes, well, what is the linefrom Lampoon's Christmas, where
it's something Todd everyone'syelling in their cars right now?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
It's something like and why is the carpet all wet
Todd?
Or something like that, I don'tremember anyway, yeah, I, I say
I will say that I'm not 100%sure, and this is not going to
shock anybody who knows me atall.
I'm not 100% sure that I'veever seen that movie.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh, yeah, that just makes me mad.
It doesn't shock it, just, I'mjust angry like it's literally
my favorite movie ever.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's not true well, you said that the Truman show
was one of your favorite moviesand I hadn't seen that either.
You haven't seen the Trumanshow?
Nope, never seen it, like.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm telling you, I mean honestly, like I just feel,
like you know some people go tolike rehab for 30 days.
I feel like you need to go tolike culture rehab.
Yes, if there's anybody whoknows me well listening to this
podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
They are cheering you on right now because I
frustrate so many people theabsolute blank stare that I have
on my face when people bring upculturally relevant things,
whether it's current or, youknow, three or four decades ago,
and it's like I don't knowwhat's wrong with me.
I don't know what's right withme so much so that I have missed
(09:34):
, like major, major asteroids ofculture.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, yeah, but then there's like a part of you.
I think you just might benaturally, as we know, a little
bit older than me, because thereare things that that you grew
up with, like the never-endingstory I think I grew up with,
but also I was like never into.
So you, you have some.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's like there's a certain age that you just quit,
though well, maybe so because,like someone said to me the
other day, they were gonna blamegermany, yeah, yeah I'm gonna
blame the 3.7 years for our newlisteners germany yeah, you have
to go back, yeah, so I I livedin germany.
(10:19):
My dad was stationed infrankfurt, germany, um between
the ages of 9 and 13, between myages of nine and 13, between my
ages of nine and 13, not mydad's Um, and and I blame most
of my cultural inadequacies onliving in Germany for three
years and guys, it was onlythree years.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, but I bet you know the German culture like
those were formative years Iculture, learning heard like the
same four memories it was thebeer truck.
Yeah, yeah, there's a storyabout a belt.
Oh my god, nobody cares aboutthis, you guys there was a care
(10:59):
flight all the way back to theunited states?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
yeah, yeah, that was part.
Yes, that was a part of it.
Yeah, okay, are we getting tothe United States?
Yeah, yeah, that was part.
Yes, that was a part of it.
Yeah, hey, are we?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
getting to the place where we're just repeating the
same, like we're hoping newpeople have tuned in, Otherwise
we were like all right, I couldtell you that story.
I've actually listened topodcasts, but I've listened to
podcasts where I have said outloud I already know this story.
Yeah, me too, Me too, Um, okay,You've mentioned boundaries.
(11:29):
I wanted to share somethingthat I heard, uh, a wise person
named Martha Beck share thisweek on a coach's call, and um,
she was talking about boundariesand also talking about how are
we integrous to ourselves, whichbasically means how do we not
abandon ourselves by being ourtruest selves.
(11:50):
And so she said it's not untilyou know what you know, feel
what you feel, say what you meanand do what you really want
that you will find wholenessCome on Like.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
that deserves a like.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
And then she said that is integrity, and you can't
do it when you're dropping yourboundaries.
Wow, yeah, it's so good.
And then I, right before westarted, I always draw a card
before the podcast.
This is my card.
If you're a patron, you can seeit.
It is a polar bear and it saystell the truth.
It's out of sarah sidleman'scard pack called how good are
(12:30):
you willing to let it get?
And uh, this is what it says behonest with yourself.
It is the foundation ofeverything.
Commit lovingly to a strict, nobullshit policy.
Did you say what you meant tosay?
Is this crazy how this shitjust shows up?
Are you doing what you said todo?
(12:51):
If the answer is no, don'tjudge.
Be kindly curious.
Instead, if you've been out ofintegrity with yourself, ask
yourself why.
Okay, can I?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
just point out that when you said, don't judge, be
kindly curious about yourself.
Both sarah and I had a visceralreaction.
What did that look like?
We both went that's really.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I don't think we can be kind to other people unless
we are kind to ourselves.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I completely disagree , I agree.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I think you can fake it but, that's exhausting.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I still disagree.
Why?
Because I'm really kind toeverybody you are.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah.
Are you just doing that for?
Am I just doing it?
For what you cracked yourselfup?
That is what almost came out ofmy mouth for affection
connection.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Oh, yeah, yeah, because this is what, how you
believe that I do, you believethat?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
all of my acts are not true.
A bid I'm really asking.
You're creating a story.
Oh my god, the demons arecoming out of her eyes.
Okay, but why are we nice that?
That is that's my point is whyare we nice.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I guess it is all just for an emotional bit, for
connection all right, let's,let's stop.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I apologize.
I at least finished and toldyou what came into my mind.
I wasn wasn't trying to be anasshole.
I'm apologizing.
Okay, rather than apologizing,I would like to say I'm sorry.
Thank you, you're welcome.
Okay, here is my question whyare we nice?
Being kind is one thing, butnice feels different to me.
(14:42):
Yeah, great question.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, I think that, like I think that I'll speak for
myself, I think that for themost part, dissonance is
uncomfortable for me.
I don't like disharmony, Idon't like dissonance, I don't
like conflict.
And the reality is I was justthinking about this this morning
(15:06):
, about how I'm thinking aboutkind of changing my
communication style a little bitwith one of my clients and I
thought about teaching thisperson a little bit about
Chinese five element theory andhow, if we can get angry and
vent about something andactually have a container for
that, instead of just likebursting into, like rantville,
if we can say like, okay, we'regoing to create a container to
rant about this thing, that thatis indicative of wood energy.
(15:30):
Wood energy is represented bybursting forth, by by helping.
It's the energy that helps thedandelion burst up from the
earth in the spring.
You know, it helps the treegrow and the flower grow, and
all of that If, if that, if thatextreme emotion associated with
wood is anger or frustration,what is what happens in the
(15:51):
natural cycle of life is thatafter the anger comes clarity of
vision, right.
And so if we, if we can say,okay, we're going to have a
container, we're going to getangry right now.
We're going to have conflictright now, or we're going to,
you know, talk about a difficultthing right now, knowing that
on the other side of it, thegoal is to have clarity of
(16:12):
vision.
Yeah, that to me feels likeproductive.
Yeah, that to me feels likeproductive.
Conflict, that to me feels likeproductive dissonance or
discord or whatever.
And so for me, like I kind ofperiod, so I don't like discord
or or discontentment ordisharmony, and I also really am
learning to see the value in it.
(16:33):
And so I think the reason thatI am nice is I don't want to
have conflict, and what I'mrealizing is that if I, if I
absolve myself of having anyconflict, then I might not ever
have clarity of vision.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Right, well, and also I think that goes for any
emotion is like if you aren'texpressing it, then you're
containing it, and that's like acesspool of dirty water.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Did you say cesspool?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yes, with a cesspool.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Is it a cesspool?
It's kind of like with a T oran E-D Cess, cess C-E-S's kind
of like with a T or an E-D, cest, cest, c-e-s-t.
I know it's not a T.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, that's how you spell cesspool.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Oh yeah, it is, you're right.
You're right, I'm sorry, wow.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Wait, what the hell is Kat yelling at or laughing at
?
It's kind of like when you madefun of me saying ruby cubes,
I'm making fun of you sayingcesspool.
What is it?
I think it's a cesspool cess.
What did I say cest?
Oh, I thought it was cest.
I mean, it's not spelled thatway, but I thought that's how
(17:45):
you pronounce it let me show youhow I'm going to represent your
modeling for me.
Moose, uh-huh, moose, I'm sorryoh, you don't have to apologize.
I enjoy that kind of love thatfeels like love to me.
Okay, Wait, back to theconflict or the rant.
I would like to share something.
(18:06):
My new thing is, if people aregoing on too long and they're
giving me too much backstory notin personal relationships,
cause that would not go well,but in work relationships if
someone is just hooting andhollering about something that I
don't have time for, I getquiet pretty quick.
If it's on the phone, theygenerally say are you still
(18:27):
there?
And I go yeah, I'm still here,and then I go.
Can I ask you something?
Try to jump in real quick.
And then I say what ask yousomething?
Try and jump in real quick.
And then I say what do you wantto do?
Because I feel like a lot ofrants are not in the
action-oriented side of yourbrain or whatever.
I don't know the brain scienceof it, but it's just this
(18:49):
somebody hurt my feelings iswhat it comes down to.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, well it and I get, and I think that's why I'm
I'm considering a bit of a shiftin how I communicate with this
particular client, becausethat's what I tend to do and it
doesn't work.
I go okay okay okay, you'refrustrated.
What do you want to do about it?
And what I'm learning is thatthe energy needs to move, and
(19:17):
then that's when I feel like myjob kicks in and goes okay, you
don't get off free to just rantand then peace out.
Now we're going to go towardwhat is the action, what is the
thing that we are going to dowith this thing?
But if I'm intentional aboutholding space for the rant time,
I can jump in there and ranttoo.
I've got plenty to bitch aboutabout what goes on in our work
world, you know, and so to me,it's one of those things where
(19:38):
I'm thinking of it as maybesomething to move the cycle
along into doing, because it'slike, once you're in that fire
element, then you're in, you'relike, ah, most authentic, most
awesome self and can do, do, do,be, be, be and et cetera, et
cetera, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
So I don't know, that's cool.
Yeah, I really like the woodelement thing that you described
.
Thank you, um.
Can I ask more questions aboutboundaries, though?
Yes, what is a boundary thatyou guys probably couldn't share
, but would like to say topeople like, for instance, when
you were talking about umholding that container for
someone, my first thought is forhow long, like that was
(20:22):
literally my thought and what'sinteresting is when I was first
starting my coaching practice, Iyou know they always try and
get you in tune with yourself soyou can find your right price
and your right amount of time.
And you know, some coaches arecoaching 45 minutes a session
and some are doing an hour and ahalf, and I know it's the same
(20:44):
in your modality as well, andyou're supposed to like, sit
with yourself and go.
How long is it's too long?
What's the right amount?
All that and it's funny becauseI I do want to set boundaries
with my time is what I would sayto that question that I asked
you.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, well, I love that you answered your own
question.
That's fantastic.
I think that that is kind oflike a form of self coaching,
like self therapy, like that'sbrilliant.
Yeah, the thing that I wouldsay is respond to my outreach.
The thing that I would say isrespond to my outreach.
It pisses me off to high heavenwhen I text someone or email
(21:21):
someone or call someone and Iget no response.
I understand, like, if youdon't have the answer to my
question and I'm guilty of thistoo there's a friend that sent
me a text message last week thatI still haven't responded to,
and it's something that's superlong term.
So in that, in that regard, Idon't feel bad about not
responding to that immediately.
(21:42):
But when I'm like you know, hey, I'd like some feedback about a
client that I have a thingabout, and it's like there's
just no response like that, thatreally upsets me.
Or hey, can you do an interviewat this time of day?
And it's just like no response,like that makes me crazy.
And so I would love to set aboundary, saying, if I reach out
to you and and ask yousomething and or ask you to do
(22:06):
something or ask for a response,like, please just do me the
dignity of responding back.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
But honestly, like if we go into the whole thing of
there's your business, theirbusiness and God's business,
what is your boundary?
What?
I'll go into that later.
I thought we've talked aboutthat.
We've talked about that.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I do not think I've ever heard that in my lifetime.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Okay, well, let's cover that in a moment.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Let me say this you just dropped the God bomb and
want to move on, I will drop theGod bomb.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, my point is there's only so much you can do.
That is your business, thenit's their business.
So okay, so say this happensyou send an email to whoever I
need this information.
Your boundary is what If theydon't get back to you?
You're not chasing them.
Your boundary is what if theydon't?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
get back to you.
You're not chasing them.
Um no, my boundary is that I,just I.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I expect a response okay, but that's out of your
business.
Your business is to pass italong to them huh, that's very
interesting.
Like.
At the end of the day, it'sreally their responsibility to
do with what you've passed along.
I think huh, Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Well, how do I set a boundary around this thing that
I need?
What is it that you need?
I need a damn response.
Well, you can't, you can't youcan't control them.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Okay, so if you don't get the response, then what?
That's how you set yourboundary.
Then what?
Let's assume that you send this.
You didn't get a response.
Later they get upset thatsomething wasn't taken care of,
but they never responded.
Then what would you say?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
um, what I would like .
Maybe that's the boundary.
What I would like to say is Ididn't get a response, so I
haven't completed that task or Ihaven't followed that like that
.
But that feels passive,aggressive to me.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Oh no, it's not passive, aggressive, it's clear.
Well, now, that would be aninteresting topic because at
some point, your responsibilityis to pass something along.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, I feel like you don'twant to talk about this anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
No, I do.
No, I'm happy to talk about it.
I think that I think that I'mtalking about something that is
really genuinely frustrating tome, and I want to understand how
to help myself.
Yeah, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Um, can I bring up a few news report items that we
need to cover Absolutely.
I love when you bring up newsitems, Okay great Well, first,
how much are you following onthis UnitedHealthcare CEO being
shot in New York City?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Believe it or not, I actually know about it.
You do.
That's fantastic.
Yes, I, yes, I actually knowthat it happened and I thought
it was really, um, I found itinteresting, and not that I
think they should have doneanything different, but I
thought it really interestingthat they still went on with the
lighting of the tree the samenight.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I thought the same thing.
I was really surprised thatthey didn't, you know.
But I guess because theythought it was a targeted attack
, they didn't think there was.
But I mean, if I was a touristin town state, I mean I know
where that Hilton is, we've allstayed up there and yeah, I was
just really surprised ithappened.
And then the um on the bulletsit was written delay, deny and
(25:32):
defend.
Did you hear about that?
No, which I didn't know whatthat meant.
So I looked it up and it's areference to strategies that
insurance companies use to tryand avoid paying claims.
Really, yes, so you know, itcould go a million different
ways.
It could be for hire shooter,it could be someone whose family
(25:57):
member didn't get the coveragethat they.
I don't know, but it isfascinating.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, that was my thing is is I thought when, when
I heard about it, my immediatethought is you know what?
Somebody denied someone's MRIor PET scan or CT scan or
something because it wasn't donein the order that the insurance
company wanted it, and thensaid person, you know, either
got sick or became deceased orwhatever it was, and in said
(26:24):
person's person was pissed.
It's like how many times havewe needed to file something to
insurance, or we needed aprocedure or something but had
to go through the motions, youknow, just because of of what,
what the policy says, and thenit's like well, now my cataract
is so bad that I'm blind, youknow, it's like if I could have
gotten it taken care of, yeah,that was pretty bad example, but
(26:47):
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Like it made me kind of think like that's probably
exactly what happened if thewhole thing is very bizarre that
in the middle of New York Cityyou can get away with that with
as many.
And now, granted you know,maybe by the time this airs he
will have been caught.
I hope so.
Great news guys.
They got the guy Just such aweird story.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It is such a weird story and at the end of the day,
it's like murder's not okay,like I don't care what your
reason is, it's like murder isnot okay.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
So it's like absolutely that needs to be
brought to justice, like like itor not and just on the on the
subject of death, this is thenext one I would like to share
right here.
Um, you want to read the?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
headline.
Oh yes, I love this kind ofthing.
Man found dead in planetfitness tanning bed three days
after entering indianapolis gym.
Wow, yeah, three days.
That lets you know how oftenthey clean those things.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
That's what?
Exactly what I thought.
I was like are you kidding meand I go to planet fitness?
I was like oof.
But yeah, a lot of people havea lot of thoughts and somebody
said who is still using tanningbeds oh, it looks like he was an
employee there who had asubstance abuse problem.
A needle was still in his armwhen they found him.
(28:08):
That is awful, wow.
Well, he must have neededsomewhere to sleep.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
God bless him when, then, it said, the ankle monitor
he wore alerted them to thefact that he never left work,
what?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
after three days, that's the only way they found
him.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Good grief.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
So definitely don't use the tanning beds at Planet
Fitness.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
In Indianapolis specifically.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
And then I think you're going to like this one,
kat, on the news update.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
All right, give us a read Okay, a church in
Switzerland is using AI poweredJesus for spiritual
conversations.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Wow, this one blew my mind, okay, so this is from
Business Bulls, a small churchin Lucerne.
Maybe.
Switzerland has made headlinesfor installing an AI-powered
Jesus in its confessional booth,offering visitors the chance to
converse with a digital avatarof Jesus in 100 languages.
(29:08):
Wow, this innovativeinstallation named Deuce in
Machina was launched as part ofa collaboration between peter's
chapel and a local universityresearch lab.
It aims to explore how peopleinteract with an ai
representation of jesus and tounderstand if there's an
interest in conversing with suchan avatar.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Huh, the church, known for being one of the
oldest in Lucerne, is that howyou would say that I think it's
Lucerne, but I don't know forsure.
That's what I meant.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
That's what I meant Made the bold decision to
replace the priest with acomputer setup in the
confessional Wow, after trainingthe AI on theological texts,
visitors could ask the digitalJesus questions, receiving
real-time answers generated byartificial intelligence.
The experience was not intendedto replace a confession, but to
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offer a space for personalreflection and spiritual
interaction.
Users were reminded not toshare personal information and
were made aware they werespeaking to an avatar to share
personal information and weremade aware they were speaking to
an avatar.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Well, it's interesting to me that that this
would be viewed as anythingother than just like normal
though, because, like I waswatching a commercial on tv the
other night, and I think it wasfor is the google phone called
the pixel, pixel 16 or somethinglike that.
Um, they were basically sayingadvertising, like hey, this new
version of the google phone ishas got fully integrated ai, and
(30:42):
they were giving examples ofhow to use it, and one of the
examples that they gave issomeone to have a conversation
with.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I mean, I have a friend who asks AI all the time
different things and and hasenjoyed the process of it, like
you know.
Not like to replace a friend,but to like get curious, I guess
.
Well, to me that's one thing.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Like it's one thing to be curious and go how well
does AI answer a question that Iwould ask a friend?
Like that to me feels like alegitimate curiosity in a day
and age where you can ask acomputer something and feel like
it's giving you a personalresponse and then potentially
(31:38):
make decisions based on thatresponse.
Like that to me feels scary.
That feels like scary land.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, I see what you mean.
I do think you might need somecounsel before you do that.
Yeah, because, like, at whatpoint does the Jesus AI, for
instance, become like a fortuneteller on Atlantic city
boardwalk?
Right, right, yeah, yeah, didyou see that movie?
Speaker 1 (32:03):
big.
Do you know that movie?
I do know that movie, believeit or not.
Like I actually know that movieand I remember being so creeped
out by the little um, what'sthe guy that was in the booth?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Uh, oh yeah, I was too.
Was he like a wizard, like aczar?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
or yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, I actually know that movie it's zoltar um, can
I tell you about my latesttiktok algorithm?
Yes, uh, so I was on the cancerjourneys, I don't know why.
And then now I am watchingpeople who have remote viewed
into the future, like for theCIA.
(32:42):
Do you know what that means?
I don't know what that meansRemote viewed.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Well, from what I'm learning this lady, she was
hired basically as a.
She would say you're not muchdifferent than a psychic, but
remote viewing is like more of aphysical going to another time
or place, and apparently the CIAhires people like that, and I
(33:13):
don't know if this is true.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
By the way, oh, it reminds me of that that show
that Patricia Arquette is in.
I think it's called Medium orsomething like that and it's
like she helps them solve crimes.
Yeah, yeah, medium or somethinglike that, and it's like she
helps them solve crimes.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, yeah.
So apparently this is the idea,is that it's to prevent crimes
from happening by looking ahead?
Huh, so then I I have a littlebit of that and I also have, um,
this lady in there who said hesaid that some interdimensional
beings, um, after she got tolike heaven or whatever, asked
(33:47):
her to go back to earth, and shesaid this is why we're here is
to help, like, save the earthand to love it back to healing.
Um and so, um, yeah, I justwanted to give an update of
where my Tik TOK reel is goingand if you guys wonder why I'm
so weird.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
This is why I'm a magnet for this stuff it's a,
it's a part of your, your um,your cellular composition.
It's like it's just, it's apart of who you are.
It's it's how the universe hashas created you as a magnet.
Mine is not because I don'tlook at tikt much, but mine is
(34:26):
Facebook and I go on Facebookfor maybe five minutes a day.
It's like I like to look at thegolden retrievers, like that's
kind of what I go and look at.
And my algorithm because I didclick on something and buy
something.
My algorithm now is plantarfasciitis.
I have been spoon fed every curefor hurting feet and it's like
(34:51):
they're all money backguaranteed, this time only, not
ever sold on Amazon.
Watch this video about thisbrilliant doctor who, after he
retired, he decided to come backand heal everybody's feet.
And I'm'm like guys, if thisshit was working, like it
wouldn't be all over theinternet like this, like we
would all just be doing it.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
You know.
So now I know like sixdifferent devices and spent
about $600.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
So tried it anyway, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I got bamboozled.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
How is your foot and how is your journey to?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
healing.
Oh, thank you for asking.
My foot is different and Ireally want to celebrate that.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Oh, how so.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, so I went to a place called Maxwell Clinic here
in Nashville and I underwent aprocedure called PRP.
It was prolotherapy and PRP andprolotherapy and PRP are very
similar.
The PRP is protein rich plasmaand so the thought of it is that
(35:53):
they basically take what yourbody uses naturally for healing
and they concentrate it and theyinject it into injured areas
and it basically says swell up,get real inflamed, as if you've
been injured again, and then allthis plasma is going to go.
Oh, there's an injury and theygo in and they try to help heal
(36:16):
it.
So it's like taking what yourbody naturally does and kind of
giving it superfood is kind of away to look at it.
And so I went and received myfirst of these treatments and I
had 12 different shots in myfoot.
That was not fun, that was notfun.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Did you take a photo Like were they all in at the
same time?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
No gosh, I wish they were.
I wish it could have just beenall like you know, like a giant
version of acupuncture.
That would have been fantastic,that's a really good idea,
Sarah.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
So wait a minute, hold on, hold on.
So these needles going in aresupposed to make your foot feel
like it's injured.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
The needles that go in inject dextrose, which is
sugar, and sugar is what makesDo they know?
You're diabetic, yeah, yeah,yeah, and it's localized,
believe me.
I asked because I was like, ifthis is going to jack up my
blood sugar, I need to know.
And so, anyway.
So basically, sugar causesinflammation.
That's why we're encouraged tonot eat a lot of sugar, because
(37:20):
it causes our bodies to beinflamed.
And so they inject sugar andlidocaine to go.
The body thinks there's aninjury in the lidocaine to kind
of to kind of numb it up.
And then the next shot thatthey do is the PRP, it's the
protein rich plasma.
And so the plasma comes in andsays, oh my gosh, there's been
(37:40):
an injury here, we're going to,we're going to work to help heal
it.
And so what I did is I went andhad this procedure and then, by
my own accord, I got my bootfrom when I hurt my foot
originally back about four yearsago, and I've been wearing my
boot ever since to really loveand protect my foot and to keep
(38:01):
it really immobile andstabilized, like I went on a
trip to chicago this week and Iwore it for 48 hours, like I had
it on the whole time and myfoot feels different, huh like
good, different, like it's notvery.
It's interesting.
It's kind of like, um, if thepaint in my foot was a shade of
(38:21):
red, now it's burgundy and Ifeel like it's moving on to like
orange.
You know, it's like there'sjust a slight I don't know what
those color key.
I need a color key okay, um, I'mjust trying to say that, like
the, the pain and the discomfortis still there, but it's
different.
I can tell that it's changingand so it's not like my oh, my
(38:44):
foot's healed.
I have no pain, cause I stillhave pain but there was maybe
some progress.
Yeah, there's some progressthat's been made, and so so I'll
do this treatment once everyfour to six weeks, about three
times, and at that point in timewe're going to kind of see like
that that's kind of probably asgood as it's going to get for
me, and so, um, so I still havealmost a month as as this
(39:06):
continues to heal, cause I justhad it done like a week ago Um
and so, yeah, that's the updateon my foot.
I'm very excited about it and Iwould like to become a
spokesperson for protein richplasma.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Oh, we should do that .
I'll be a spokesperson forketamine.
Perfect.
They do ketamine at that clinictoo.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
They I need, I need to look them up I need to google
.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yes, yes.
Well, it sure has been funcatching up with y'all.
Sarah, you got anything to say?
You disappeared there for aminute.
Sorry, I had a little incidentI needed to care for.
It's okay, nothing to reporthere.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Well, I've got a little bit more to report
because you know I am theeternal scholar, and so yes,
sorry to interrupt.
Well, no, there's nointerruption here, I'm just, you
know, I just want to just do aquick this little flash of
whatever the heck that is.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Is that the, the spaceship from Star Wars?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
It's kind of what it looks like, isn't it?
This is my natal birth chart.
Flash of whatever the heck thatis.
Is that the spaceship from StarWars?
It's kind of what it looks like, isn't it?
This is my natal birth chart.
Oh yeah, do tell.
According to the stars.
And so, I had a galacticastrology reading last week, and
I was so inspired by it thatnow I have made it my life's
(40:26):
mission to also learn aboutastrology.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And so, Lord, I can't wait.
I would love to hear about thatGalactic.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Well, here's here's what made it.
Galactic is apparently um,astrology is one thing.
It's like okay, let's look atthe stars, let's look at how
that corresponds with your sunsign, your rising sign, your
moon sign, blah, blah, blah,blah and um, and that's all fine
and good.
Well, this galactic astrologykind of takes that and makes it
(40:54):
three dimensional.
Is the way that I like to lookat it.
And so when you have someonewho is an uh, astrology person
quote unquote, is an astrologyperson quote unquote reading
your chart, you can go into thefield with them, you can go in.
(41:14):
So this is like a remote viewing.
It kind of is yeah, it's kindof very, it's very similar and
according to this differentperspective on astrology, it has
to do with there are four majorblack holes in the Milky Way
and inside of these black holes,because they have absorbed so
much over billions and billionsof years, these black holes are
viewed as having divine wisdom.
And in your galactic chart andyour regular astrological chart,
(41:40):
you'll find that it's possiblethat your chart intersects with
one or more of these black holesand if it does, then it's
basically saying to you you havethe ability, you have like a
shortcut to divine wisdom.
And so when my chart was read,what the?
Speaker 2 (41:59):
She said oh no, I found another black hole.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
That's exactly what happened in the podcast.
No, what she said the personwho did the reading is.
She said your chart aligns withnot one, not two, but three of
the black holes, and she waslike so from my perspective,
she's like you have a likedirect line to really download
divine wisdom, and that seemspretty cool, you know.
(42:29):
And so ever since then, it'slike I felt like someone gave me
a permission slip to believe inmyself, that I can connect with
the divine.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Oh my God, that's a big deal.
It is a big deal.
And also, I will write you apermission slip daily via AI, if
you want me to, because you arespecial and you don't need to
be told you're connected tothree damn black holes for you
to believe it.
Right right Isn't?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
that ridiculous.
It's like well we all do it.
Yeah, we all do it.
So, yeah, so, anyway, this iswhat we like to call a teaser on
the Cat and Moose podcast.
We're going to be talking a lotmore astrology with Cat and,
just like everything I just saidprobably had 13 mistakes in it,
but was somewhat near the truth, this will be about the same
You'll get to follow on ourlearning journey.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, we're a curiosity podcast, not an
educational one.
Yeah, you know what to expecthere.
All right, we love you.
Know what to expect here, allright, we love you guys.
Thanks for listening.
Bye everyone, have a great week.
Bye everyone.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Special thanks to our producer, sarah Reed, to find
out more, go tocatandmoosepodcastcom.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Cat and Moose is a BP Production.
Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast.
I'm Cat and I'm Moose.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
This is a true life podcast where we explore the
quirks of being human.
Hey Cat, hey Moose, hi, sarahis back.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Sarah and block colors yes, yes, you look good,
sarah, oh thank you your new agelooks good on you oh well,
thanks, happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm much older now, more refined, thank you, yes
more refined more refined, as ifa diamond refined by fire.
God's fire.
Yes, god's fire, yes indeed.
God's fire the fire of the HolySpirit, the fire of the saints.
Hey, anyone have anyThanksgiving drama?
(00:55):
No, thank God.
No, really, kat, you didn'thave any.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
No, oh, come on, I really don't I mean okay, yes, I
do, actually I do Come on.
So I have two nephews.
They're both wild and awesomechildren.
The youngest one, his name, isCaden, and Caden, over the past
several visits to my mom's, hasbeen learning how to play
Rummikubes.
I love that game.
(01:23):
With an S on the end yes,rummikube, learning how to play
rummy cubes.
I love that with like, with ans.
Yes, rummy cube.
Well, I mean, that's what Icall it, is it rummy cube?
I don't know, I call it, I justam adding the s.
Well, rummy cube.
So anyway.
So he's really learning theknack and the rhythm of how to
play and like what somestrategies are and stuff like
that.
And he's six, so like, so, like.
It's not, it's not refined likeSarah's diamond by fire in her,
(01:49):
her golden age.
And so um, and so what I'll dois I'll mess with him and it is.
It's so fun for me Like, forexample, if you've got like a
black 10, 11, 12, 13,.
What I would do is I would takeif I had like a black 10, I
would.
What I would do is I would takeif I had like a black 10.
I would take my black 10 andput it on top of the black 10
(02:09):
that's already on the board andjust wait until he noticed, oh
that's, and then he would belike.
He would be like Andy, do thatyeah he's like you can't do that
, and so I'd be like what?
And?
And so it just really tickledme and so anyway, so when he
would play, he's so little andmy mom has this beautiful,
(02:31):
wonderful round oak table that'sbeen a part of our family for
like centuries, you know, and sowhen it would be his turn to
play, he would have to crawl upon top of the table and like
crawl to the playing board andplay his numbers or whatever,
and his parents were likefreaking out because like he's
climbing all over the table andmy mom's, of course, like I
don't care, and it was justreally cute.
(02:52):
So, anyway, my mom told me thatafter I left they stayed for a
couple more days, my sister andher family, and my mom said that
after I left that when theywere playing Rummy Cube together
with him, that he was doing theexact same thing, that I was in
the exact same way, that I wasdoing it, and it's like he he
wanted to like kind of pokeeverybody and harass everybody,
(03:16):
like Naughty Auntie did, and Ijust thought that was just cute
as shit.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That is so cute.
He was following your lead,trying to be funny.
Yes, so it's drama lead tryingto be funny.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yes, so it's drama, but it's good drama.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
You know, it's only because most of my family is
dead that I don't haveThanksgiving drama, because I've
never had a Thanksgivingwithout drama looking back.
But so at our Thanksgiving itwas me and Sarah and my sister
and Sarah's mom, and Sarah'smom's name is Leslie, and I just
(03:50):
have to say that because ofwhat I'm about to share, and so
I think it was like the firstChristmas or Thanksgiving that
they had met, maybe like fouryears ago and this.
So this isn't a recent drama,but I don't think I've ever
shared it, but it's funny enoughand far away enough to share.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Enough time has passed it's so, um, they had met
before and so there was alittle bit of familiarity.
And my sister's a little bit ofa like jokester and she likes
to poke at things like I do andum, and so you know, like her,
her way of letting people knowthat she loves them is to kind
(04:33):
of pick on them in a funny way.
Well, I remember we were allstanding around like the the
middle Island in the kitchen and, um, you know, getting ready to
eat or something like that, ormaybe we were eating hors
d'oeuvre or something like that,and, um, I guess Sarah's mom
(04:54):
let out like a sigh or somethingthat suggested whatever was
happening Wasn't okay, happeningwasn't okay.
And out of my sister's mouthcomes quit, your bitching,
leslie.
Oh wow, and I I turned thinkingwhat is happening right now?
(05:15):
Yeah, and Sarah's mom didn'tquite get that.
My sister was being playful andI just remember moaning myself
and then walking out of the roomlike what just happened.
But I think my sister and thenshe just like threw a chip in
her mouth, like you know whatyou bitching about now and um,
(05:35):
anyway, I've wanted to make at-shirt that says that.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Since that happened, and and did your sister get like
what she was looking for?
It sounds like it kind of it,kind of yeah, but I don't think
she cared.
I don't think she cares.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Really, that's what's great about your sister.
Get like what she was lookingfor.
It sounds like it kind of it,kind of yeah, but I don't think
she cared.
I don't think she cares really.
That's what's great about mysister.
My sister is the version of methat I want to be like.
She literally does not carewhat people think.
Wow.
I mean I'm sure that she's hadher moments, but she really
doesn't.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You know now that you say that, I would say there's
something similar between me andmy sister Not the same thing.
But I'm very worried and veryanxious if I set a boundary or
if I say no, or if I well, if Iset a boundary or I say no, I
worry about that, especiallywhen it's within my family, like
(06:24):
I'm better and better at it thefurther out you get.
You know, I'm like, oh, I canset boundaries, great with these
people out here.
But it's like the closer youget to the inside, the harder it
is for me to set boundaries.
And my sister has absolutely noproblem whatsoever setting a
boundary.
Really, yes, that kind ofsurprises me.
Yes, like, for example, she'llgo to my mom's and she'll say,
(06:48):
just so you know, we're going toleave at two o'clock on Sunday,
and my mom's like, great, great, you know where?
if I go to my mom's and I sayI'm planning on leaving around
two on Sunday, for some reason Ifeel like you know, like you've
always been this way, like Ifeel, like I've disappointed the
whole world and it just isfascinating to me that, like we
(07:12):
come from the same parents withthe same upbringing, just 4.7
years apart, or whatever it is4.2 years apart and like she can
seta boundary like nobody'sbusiness, like how is it that
our sisters have got thesequalities that we yearn for?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I don't know, but what are you afraid of?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
we have to coach this no, I don't want to coach this
right now are you sure I'mpositive, it's really timely, it
feels very timely no, don'twant to coach this right now,
just want to talk about oursisters.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Okay, I'll let you think about it, I'll let you
pray about it.
Um, I will say I think I'm back, oh good, uh, you want to say
anything about what my sistersaid to your mom?
No, I I.
Now that I think about it, Ithink it is quit your bitch.
And Leslie, I mean, who'ssomeone which honestly would be
(08:06):
a great t-shirt?
Yes, well, what is the linefrom Lampoon's Christmas, where
it's something Todd everyone'syelling in their cars right now?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
It's something like and why is the carpet all wet
Todd?
Or something like that, I don'tremember anyway, yeah, I, I say
I will say that I'm not 100%sure, and this is not going to
shock anybody who knows me atall.
I'm not 100% sure that I'veever seen that movie.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh, yeah, that just makes me mad.
It doesn't shock it, just, I'mjust angry like it's literally
my favorite movie ever.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's not true well, you said that the Truman show
was one of your favorite moviesand I hadn't seen that either.
You haven't seen the Trumanshow?
Nope, never seen it, like.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm telling you, I mean honestly, like I just feel,
like you know some people go tolike rehab for 30 days.
I feel like you need to go tolike culture rehab.
Yes, if there's anybody whoknows me well listening to this
podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
They are cheering you on right now because I
frustrate so many people theabsolute blank stare that I have
on my face when people bring upculturally relevant things,
whether it's current or, youknow, three or four decades ago,
and it's like I don't knowwhat's wrong with me.
I don't know what's right withme so much so that I have missed
(09:34):
, like major, major asteroids ofculture.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, yeah, but then there's like a part of you.
I think you just might benaturally, as we know, a little
bit older than me, because thereare things that that you grew
up with, like the never-endingstory I think I grew up with,
but also I was like never into.
So you, you have some.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's like there's a certain age that you just quit,
though well, maybe so because,like someone said to me the
other day, they were gonna blamegermany, yeah, yeah I'm gonna
blame the 3.7 years for our newlisteners germany yeah, you have
to go back, yeah, so I I livedin germany.
(10:19):
My dad was stationed infrankfurt, germany, um between
the ages of 9 and 13, between myages of nine and 13, between my
ages of nine and 13, not mydad's Um, and and I blame most
of my cultural inadequacies onliving in Germany for three
years and guys, it was onlythree years.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, but I bet you know the German culture like
those were formative years Iculture, learning heard like the
same four memories it was thebeer truck.
Yeah, yeah, there's a storyabout a belt.
Oh my god, nobody cares aboutthis, you guys there was a care
(10:59):
flight all the way back to theunited states?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
yeah, yeah, that was part.
Yes, that was a part of it.
Yeah, okay, are we getting tothe United States?
Yeah, yeah, that was part.
Yes, that was a part of it.
Yeah, hey, are we?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
getting to the place where we're just repeating the
same, like we're hoping newpeople have tuned in, Otherwise
we were like all right, I couldtell you that story.
I've actually listened topodcasts, but I've listened to
podcasts where I have said outloud I already know this story.
Yeah, me too, Me too, Um, okay,You've mentioned boundaries.
(11:29):
I wanted to share somethingthat I heard, uh, a wise person
named Martha Beck share thisweek on a coach's call, and um,
she was talking about boundariesand also talking about how are
we integrous to ourselves, whichbasically means how do we not
abandon ourselves by being ourtruest selves.
(11:50):
And so she said it's not untilyou know what you know, feel
what you feel, say what you meanand do what you really want
that you will find wholenessCome on Like.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
that deserves a like.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
And then she said that is integrity, and you can't
do it when you're dropping yourboundaries.
Wow, yeah, it's so good.
And then I, right before westarted, I always draw a card
before the podcast.
This is my card.
If you're a patron, you can seeit.
It is a polar bear and it saystell the truth.
It's out of sarah sidleman'scard pack called how good are
(12:30):
you willing to let it get?
And uh, this is what it says behonest with yourself.
It is the foundation ofeverything.
Commit lovingly to a strict, nobullshit policy.
Did you say what you meant tosay?
Is this crazy how this shitjust shows up?
Are you doing what you said todo?
(12:51):
If the answer is no, don'tjudge.
Be kindly curious.
Instead, if you've been out ofintegrity with yourself, ask
yourself why.
Okay, can I?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
just point out that when you said, don't judge, be
kindly curious about yourself.
Both sarah and I had a visceralreaction.
What did that look like?
We both went that's really.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I don't think we can be kind to other people unless
we are kind to ourselves.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I completely disagree , I agree.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I think you can fake it but, that's exhausting.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I still disagree.
Why?
Because I'm really kind toeverybody you are.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah.
Are you just doing that for?
Am I just doing it?
For what you cracked yourselfup?
That is what almost came out ofmy mouth for affection
connection.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Oh, yeah, yeah, because this is what, how you
believe that I do, you believethat?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
all of my acts are not true.
A bid I'm really asking.
You're creating a story.
Oh my god, the demons arecoming out of her eyes.
Okay, but why are we nice that?
That is that's my point is whyare we nice.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I guess it is all just for an emotional bit, for
connection all right, let's,let's stop.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I apologize.
I at least finished and toldyou what came into my mind.
I wasn wasn't trying to be anasshole.
I'm apologizing.
Okay, rather than apologizing,I would like to say I'm sorry.
Thank you, you're welcome.
Okay, here is my question whyare we nice?
Being kind is one thing, butnice feels different to me.
(14:42):
Yeah, great question.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, I think that, like I think that I'll speak for
myself, I think that for themost part, dissonance is
uncomfortable for me.
I don't like disharmony, Idon't like dissonance, I don't
like conflict.
And the reality is I was justthinking about this this morning
(15:06):
, about how I'm thinking aboutkind of changing my
communication style a little bitwith one of my clients and I
thought about teaching thisperson a little bit about
Chinese five element theory andhow, if we can get angry and
vent about something andactually have a container for
that, instead of just likebursting into, like rantville,
if we can say like, okay, we'regoing to create a container to
rant about this thing, that thatis indicative of wood energy.
(15:30):
Wood energy is represented bybursting forth, by by helping.
It's the energy that helps thedandelion burst up from the
earth in the spring.
You know, it helps the treegrow and the flower grow, and
all of that If, if that, if thatextreme emotion associated with
wood is anger or frustration,what is what happens in the
(15:51):
natural cycle of life is thatafter the anger comes clarity of
vision, right.
And so if we, if we can say,okay, we're going to have a
container, we're going to getangry right now.
We're going to have conflictright now, or we're going to,
you know, talk about a difficultthing right now, knowing that
on the other side of it, thegoal is to have clarity of
(16:12):
vision.
Yeah, that to me feels likeproductive.
Yeah, that to me feels likeproductive.
Conflict, that to me feels likeproductive dissonance or
discord or whatever.
And so for me, like I kind ofperiod, so I don't like discord
or or discontentment ordisharmony, and I also really am
learning to see the value in it.
(16:33):
And so I think the reason thatI am nice is I don't want to
have conflict, and what I'mrealizing is that if I, if I
absolve myself of having anyconflict, then I might not ever
have clarity of vision.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Right, well, and also I think that goes for any
emotion is like if you aren'texpressing it, then you're
containing it, and that's like acesspool of dirty water.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Did you say cesspool?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yes, with a cesspool.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Is it a cesspool?
It's kind of like with a T oran E-D Cess, cess C-E-S's kind
of like with a T or an E-D, cest, cest, c-e-s-t.
I know it's not a T.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, that's how you spell cesspool.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Oh yeah, it is, you're right.
You're right, I'm sorry, wow.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Wait, what the hell is Kat yelling at or laughing at
?
It's kind of like when you madefun of me saying ruby cubes,
I'm making fun of you sayingcesspool.
What is it?
I think it's a cesspool cess.
What did I say cest?
Oh, I thought it was cest.
I mean, it's not spelled thatway, but I thought that's how
(17:45):
you pronounce it let me show youhow I'm going to represent your
modeling for me.
Moose, uh-huh, moose, I'm sorryoh, you don't have to apologize.
I enjoy that kind of love thatfeels like love to me.
Okay, Wait, back to theconflict or the rant.
I would like to share something.
(18:06):
My new thing is, if people aregoing on too long and they're
giving me too much backstory notin personal relationships,
cause that would not go well,but in work relationships if
someone is just hooting andhollering about something that I
don't have time for, I getquiet pretty quick.
If it's on the phone, theygenerally say are you still
(18:27):
there?
And I go yeah, I'm still here,and then I go.
Can I ask you something?
Try to jump in real quick.
And then I say what ask yousomething?
Try and jump in real quick.
And then I say what do you wantto do?
Because I feel like a lot ofrants are not in the
action-oriented side of yourbrain or whatever.
I don't know the brain scienceof it, but it's just this
(18:49):
somebody hurt my feelings iswhat it comes down to.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, well it and I get, and I think that's why I'm
I'm considering a bit of a shiftin how I communicate with this
particular client, becausethat's what I tend to do and it
doesn't work.
I go okay okay okay, you'refrustrated.
What do you want to do about it?
And what I'm learning is thatthe energy needs to move, and
(19:17):
then that's when I feel like myjob kicks in and goes okay, you
don't get off free to just rantand then peace out.
Now we're going to go towardwhat is the action, what is the
thing that we are going to dowith this thing?
But if I'm intentional aboutholding space for the rant time,
I can jump in there and ranttoo.
I've got plenty to bitch aboutabout what goes on in our work
world, you know, and so to me,it's one of those things where
(19:38):
I'm thinking of it as maybesomething to move the cycle
along into doing, because it'slike, once you're in that fire
element, then you're in, you'relike, ah, most authentic, most
awesome self and can do, do, do,be, be, be and et cetera, et
cetera, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
So I don't know, that's cool.
Yeah, I really like the woodelement thing that you described
.
Thank you, um.
Can I ask more questions aboutboundaries, though?
Yes, what is a boundary thatyou guys probably couldn't share
, but would like to say topeople like, for instance, when
you were talking about umholding that container for
someone, my first thought is forhow long, like that was
(20:22):
literally my thought and what'sinteresting is when I was first
starting my coaching practice, Iyou know they always try and
get you in tune with yourself soyou can find your right price
and your right amount of time.
And you know, some coaches arecoaching 45 minutes a session
and some are doing an hour and ahalf, and I know it's the same
(20:44):
in your modality as well, andyou're supposed to like, sit
with yourself and go.
How long is it's too long?
What's the right amount?
All that and it's funny becauseI I do want to set boundaries
with my time is what I would sayto that question that I asked
you.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, well, I love that you answered your own
question.
That's fantastic.
I think that that is kind oflike a form of self coaching,
like self therapy, like that'sbrilliant.
Yeah, the thing that I wouldsay is respond to my outreach.
The thing that I would say isrespond to my outreach.
It pisses me off to high heavenwhen I text someone or email
(21:21):
someone or call someone and Iget no response.
I understand, like, if youdon't have the answer to my
question and I'm guilty of thistoo there's a friend that sent
me a text message last week thatI still haven't responded to,
and it's something that's superlong term.
So in that, in that regard, Idon't feel bad about not
responding to that immediately.
(21:42):
But when I'm like you know, hey, I'd like some feedback about a
client that I have a thingabout, and it's like there's
just no response like that, thatreally upsets me.
Or hey, can you do an interviewat this time of day?
And it's just like no response,like that makes me crazy.
And so I would love to set aboundary, saying, if I reach out
to you and and ask yousomething and or ask you to do
(22:06):
something or ask for a response,like, please just do me the
dignity of responding back.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
But honestly, like if we go into the whole thing of
there's your business, theirbusiness and God's business,
what is your boundary?
What?
I'll go into that later.
I thought we've talked aboutthat.
We've talked about that.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I do not think I've ever heard that in my lifetime.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Okay, well, let's cover that in a moment.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Let me say this you just dropped the God bomb and
want to move on, I will drop theGod bomb.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, my point is there's only so much you can do.
That is your business, thenit's their business.
So okay, so say this happensyou send an email to whoever I
need this information.
Your boundary is what If theydon't get back to you?
You're not chasing them.
Your boundary is what if theydon't?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
get back to you.
You're not chasing them.
Um no, my boundary is that I,just I.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I expect a response okay, but that's out of your
business.
Your business is to pass italong to them huh, that's very
interesting.
Like.
At the end of the day, it'sreally their responsibility to
do with what you've passed along.
I think huh, Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Well, how do I set a boundary around this thing that
I need?
What is it that you need?
I need a damn response.
Well, you can't, you can't youcan't control them.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Okay, so if you don't get the response, then what?
That's how you set yourboundary.
Then what?
Let's assume that you send this.
You didn't get a response.
Later they get upset thatsomething wasn't taken care of,
but they never responded.
Then what would you say?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
um, what I would like .
Maybe that's the boundary.
What I would like to say is Ididn't get a response, so I
haven't completed that task or Ihaven't followed that like that
.
But that feels passive,aggressive to me.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Oh no, it's not passive, aggressive, it's clear.
Well, now, that would be aninteresting topic because at
some point, your responsibilityis to pass something along.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, I feel like you don'twant to talk about this anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
No, I do.
No, I'm happy to talk about it.
I think that I think that I'mtalking about something that is
really genuinely frustrating tome, and I want to understand how
to help myself.
Yeah, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Um, can I bring up a few news report items that we
need to cover Absolutely.
I love when you bring up newsitems, Okay great Well, first,
how much are you following onthis UnitedHealthcare CEO being
shot in New York City?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Believe it or not, I actually know about it.
You do.
That's fantastic.
Yes, I, yes, I actually knowthat it happened and I thought
it was really, um, I found itinteresting, and not that I
think they should have doneanything different, but I
thought it really interestingthat they still went on with the
lighting of the tree the samenight.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I thought the same thing.
I was really surprised thatthey didn't, you know.
But I guess because theythought it was a targeted attack
, they didn't think there was.
But I mean, if I was a touristin town state, I mean I know
where that Hilton is, we've allstayed up there and yeah, I was
just really surprised ithappened.
And then the um on the bulletsit was written delay, deny and
(25:32):
defend.
Did you hear about that?
No, which I didn't know whatthat meant.
So I looked it up and it's areference to strategies that
insurance companies use to tryand avoid paying claims.
Really, yes, so you know, itcould go a million different
ways.
It could be for hire shooter,it could be someone whose family
(25:57):
member didn't get the coveragethat they.
I don't know, but it isfascinating.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, that was my thing is is I thought when, when
I heard about it, my immediatethought is you know what?
Somebody denied someone's MRIor PET scan or CT scan or
something because it wasn't donein the order that the insurance
company wanted it, and thensaid person, you know, either
got sick or became deceased orwhatever it was, and in said
(26:24):
person's person was pissed.
It's like how many times havewe needed to file something to
insurance, or we needed aprocedure or something but had
to go through the motions, youknow, just because of of what,
what the policy says, and thenit's like well, now my cataract
is so bad that I'm blind, youknow, it's like if I could have
gotten it taken care of, yeah,that was pretty bad example, but
(26:47):
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Like it made me kind of think like that's probably
exactly what happened if thewhole thing is very bizarre that
in the middle of New York Cityyou can get away with that with
as many.
And now, granted you know,maybe by the time this airs he
will have been caught.
I hope so.
Great news guys.
They got the guy Just such aweird story.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It is such a weird story and at the end of the day,
it's like murder's not okay,like I don't care what your
reason is, it's like murder isnot okay.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
So it's like absolutely that needs to be
brought to justice, like like itor not and just on the on the
subject of death, this is thenext one I would like to share
right here.
Um, you want to read the?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
headline.
Oh yes, I love this kind ofthing.
Man found dead in planetfitness tanning bed three days
after entering indianapolis gym.
Wow, yeah, three days.
That lets you know how oftenthey clean those things.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
That's what?
Exactly what I thought.
I was like are you kidding meand I go to planet fitness?
I was like oof.
But yeah, a lot of people havea lot of thoughts and somebody
said who is still using tanningbeds oh, it looks like he was an
employee there who had asubstance abuse problem.
A needle was still in his armwhen they found him.
(28:08):
That is awful, wow.
Well, he must have neededsomewhere to sleep.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
God bless him when, then, it said, the ankle monitor
he wore alerted them to thefact that he never left work,
what?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
after three days, that's the only way they found
him.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Good grief.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
So definitely don't use the tanning beds at Planet
Fitness.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
In Indianapolis specifically.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
And then I think you're going to like this one,
kat, on the news update.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
All right, give us a read Okay, a church in
Switzerland is using AI poweredJesus for spiritual
conversations.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Wow, this one blew my mind, okay, so this is from
Business Bulls, a small churchin Lucerne.
Maybe.
Switzerland has made headlinesfor installing an AI-powered
Jesus in its confessional booth,offering visitors the chance to
converse with a digital avatarof Jesus in 100 languages.
(29:08):
Wow, this innovativeinstallation named Deuce in
Machina was launched as part ofa collaboration between peter's
chapel and a local universityresearch lab.
It aims to explore how peopleinteract with an ai
representation of jesus and tounderstand if there's an
interest in conversing with suchan avatar.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Huh, the church, known for being one of the
oldest in Lucerne, is that howyou would say that I think it's
Lucerne, but I don't know forsure.
That's what I meant.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
That's what I meant Made the bold decision to
replace the priest with acomputer setup in the
confessional Wow, after trainingthe AI on theological texts,
visitors could ask the digitalJesus questions, receiving
real-time answers generated byartificial intelligence.
The experience was not intendedto replace a confession, but to
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offer a space for personalreflection and spiritual
interaction.
Users were reminded not toshare personal information and
were made aware they werespeaking to an avatar to share
personal information and weremade aware they were speaking to
an avatar.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Well, it's interesting to me that that this
would be viewed as anythingother than just like normal
though, because, like I waswatching a commercial on tv the
other night, and I think it wasfor is the google phone called
the pixel, pixel 16 or somethinglike that.
Um, they were basically sayingadvertising, like hey, this new
version of the google phone ishas got fully integrated ai, and
(30:42):
they were giving examples ofhow to use it, and one of the
examples that they gave issomeone to have a conversation
with.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I mean, I have a friend who asks AI all the time
different things and and hasenjoyed the process of it, like
you know.
Not like to replace a friend,but to like get curious, I guess
.
Well, to me that's one thing.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Like it's one thing to be curious and go how well
does AI answer a question that Iwould ask a friend?
Like that to me feels like alegitimate curiosity in a day
and age where you can ask acomputer something and feel like
it's giving you a personalresponse and then potentially
(31:38):
make decisions based on thatresponse.
Like that to me feels scary.
That feels like scary land.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, I see what you mean.
I do think you might need somecounsel before you do that.
Yeah, because, like, at whatpoint does the Jesus AI, for
instance, become like a fortuneteller on Atlantic city
boardwalk?
Right, right, yeah, yeah, didyou see that movie?
Speaker 1 (32:03):
big.
Do you know that movie?
I do know that movie, believeit or not.
Like I actually know that movieand I remember being so creeped
out by the little um, what'sthe guy that was in the booth?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Uh, oh yeah, I was too.
Was he like a wizard, like aczar?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
or yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, I actually know that movie it's zoltar um, can
I tell you about my latesttiktok algorithm?
Yes, uh, so I was on the cancerjourneys, I don't know why.
And then now I am watchingpeople who have remote viewed
into the future, like for theCIA.
(32:42):
Do you know what that means?
I don't know what that meansRemote viewed.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Well, from what I'm learning this lady, she was
hired basically as a.
She would say you're not muchdifferent than a psychic, but
remote viewing is like more of aphysical going to another time
or place, and apparently the CIAhires people like that, and I
(33:13):
don't know if this is true.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
By the way, oh, it reminds me of that that show
that Patricia Arquette is in.
I think it's called Medium orsomething like that and it's
like she helps them solve crimes.
Yeah, yeah, medium or somethinglike that, and it's like she
helps them solve crimes.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, yeah.
So apparently this is the idea,is that it's to prevent crimes
from happening by looking ahead?
Huh, so then I I have a littlebit of that and I also have, um,
this lady in there who said hesaid that some interdimensional
beings, um, after she got tolike heaven or whatever, asked
(33:47):
her to go back to earth, and shesaid this is why we're here is
to help, like, save the earthand to love it back to healing.
Um and so, um, yeah, I justwanted to give an update of
where my Tik TOK reel is goingand if you guys wonder why I'm
so weird.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
This is why I'm a magnet for this stuff it's a,
it's a part of your, your um,your cellular composition.
It's like it's just, it's apart of who you are.
It's it's how the universe hashas created you as a magnet.
Mine is not because I don'tlook at tikt much, but mine is
(34:26):
Facebook and I go on Facebookfor maybe five minutes a day.
It's like I like to look at thegolden retrievers, like that's
kind of what I go and look at.
And my algorithm because I didclick on something and buy
something.
My algorithm now is plantarfasciitis.
I have been spoon fed every curefor hurting feet and it's like
(34:51):
they're all money backguaranteed, this time only, not
ever sold on Amazon.
Watch this video about thisbrilliant doctor who, after he
retired, he decided to come backand heal everybody's feet.
And I'm'm like guys, if thisshit was working, like it
wouldn't be all over theinternet like this, like we
would all just be doing it.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
You know.
So now I know like sixdifferent devices and spent
about $600.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
So tried it anyway, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I got bamboozled.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
How is your foot and how is your journey to?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
healing.
Oh, thank you for asking.
My foot is different and Ireally want to celebrate that.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Oh, how so.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, so I went to a place called Maxwell Clinic here
in Nashville and I underwent aprocedure called PRP.
It was prolotherapy and PRP andprolotherapy and PRP are very
similar.
The PRP is protein rich plasmaand so the thought of it is that
(35:53):
they basically take what yourbody uses naturally for healing
and they concentrate it and theyinject it into injured areas
and it basically says swell up,get real inflamed, as if you've
been injured again, and then allthis plasma is going to go.
Oh, there's an injury and theygo in and they try to help heal
(36:16):
it.
So it's like taking what yourbody naturally does and kind of
giving it superfood is kind of away to look at it.
And so I went and received myfirst of these treatments and I
had 12 different shots in myfoot.
That was not fun, that was notfun.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Did you take a photo Like were they all in at the
same time?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
No gosh, I wish they were.
I wish it could have just beenall like you know, like a giant
version of acupuncture.
That would have been fantastic,that's a really good idea,
Sarah.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
So wait a minute, hold on, hold on.
So these needles going in aresupposed to make your foot feel
like it's injured.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
The needles that go in inject dextrose, which is
sugar, and sugar is what makesDo they know?
You're diabetic, yeah, yeah,yeah, and it's localized,
believe me.
I asked because I was like, ifthis is going to jack up my
blood sugar, I need to know.
And so, anyway.
So basically, sugar causesinflammation.
That's why we're encouraged tonot eat a lot of sugar, because
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it causes our bodies to beinflamed.
And so they inject sugar andlidocaine to go.
The body thinks there's aninjury in the lidocaine to kind
of to kind of numb it up.
And then the next shot thatthey do is the PRP, it's the
protein rich plasma.
And so the plasma comes in andsays, oh my gosh, there's been
(37:40):
an injury here, we're going to,we're going to work to help heal
it.
And so what I did is I went andhad this procedure and then, by
my own accord, I got my bootfrom when I hurt my foot
originally back about four yearsago, and I've been wearing my
boot ever since to really loveand protect my foot and to keep
(38:01):
it really immobile andstabilized, like I went on a
trip to chicago this week and Iwore it for 48 hours, like I had
it on the whole time and myfoot feels different, huh like
good, different, like it's notvery.
It's interesting.
It's kind of like, um, if thepaint in my foot was a shade of
(38:21):
red, now it's burgundy and Ifeel like it's moving on to like
orange.
You know, it's like there'sjust a slight I don't know what
those color key.
I need a color key okay, um, I'mjust trying to say that, like
the, the pain and the discomfortis still there, but it's
different.
I can tell that it's changingand so it's not like my oh, my
(38:44):
foot's healed.
I have no pain, cause I stillhave pain but there was maybe
some progress.
Yeah, there's some progressthat's been made, and so so I'll
do this treatment once everyfour to six weeks, about three
times, and at that point in timewe're going to kind of see like
that that's kind of probably asgood as it's going to get for
me, and so, um, so I still havealmost a month as as this
(39:06):
continues to heal, cause I justhad it done like a week ago Um
and so, yeah, that's the updateon my foot.
I'm very excited about it and Iwould like to become a
spokesperson for protein richplasma.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Oh, we should do that .
I'll be a spokesperson forketamine.
Perfect.
They do ketamine at that clinictoo.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
They I need, I need to look them up I need to google
.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yes, yes.
Well, it sure has been funcatching up with y'all.
Sarah, you got anything to say?
You disappeared there for aminute.
Sorry, I had a little incidentI needed to care for.
It's okay, nothing to reporthere.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Well, I've got a little bit more to report
because you know I am theeternal scholar, and so yes,
sorry to interrupt.
Well, no, there's nointerruption here, I'm just, you
know, I just want to just do aquick this little flash of
whatever the heck that is.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Is that the, the spaceship from Star Wars?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
It's kind of what it looks like, isn't it?
This is my natal birth chart.
Flash of whatever the heck thatis.
Is that the spaceship from StarWars?
It's kind of what it looks like, isn't it?
This is my natal birth chart.
Oh yeah, do tell.
According to the stars.
And so, I had a galacticastrology reading last week, and
I was so inspired by it thatnow I have made it my life's
(40:26):
mission to also learn aboutastrology.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And so, Lord, I can't wait.
I would love to hear about thatGalactic.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Well, here's here's what made it.
Galactic is apparently um,astrology is one thing.
It's like okay, let's look atthe stars, let's look at how
that corresponds with your sunsign, your rising sign, your
moon sign, blah, blah, blah,blah and um, and that's all fine
and good.
Well, this galactic astrologykind of takes that and makes it
(40:54):
three dimensional.
Is the way that I like to lookat it.
And so when you have someonewho is an uh, astrology person
quote unquote, is an astrologyperson quote unquote reading
your chart, you can go into thefield with them, you can go in.
(41:14):
So this is like a remote viewing.
It kind of is yeah, it's kindof very, it's very similar and
according to this differentperspective on astrology, it has
to do with there are four majorblack holes in the Milky Way
and inside of these black holes,because they have absorbed so
much over billions and billionsof years, these black holes are
viewed as having divine wisdom.
And in your galactic chart andyour regular astrological chart,
(41:40):
you'll find that it's possiblethat your chart intersects with
one or more of these black holesand if it does, then it's
basically saying to you you havethe ability, you have like a
shortcut to divine wisdom.
And so when my chart was read,what the?
Speaker 2 (41:59):
She said oh no, I found another black hole.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
That's exactly what happened in the podcast.
No, what she said the personwho did the reading is.
She said your chart aligns withnot one, not two, but three of
the black holes, and she waslike so from my perspective,
she's like you have a likedirect line to really download
divine wisdom, and that seemspretty cool, you know.
(42:29):
And so ever since then, it'slike I felt like someone gave me
a permission slip to believe inmyself, that I can connect with
the divine.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Oh my God, that's a big deal.
It is a big deal.
And also, I will write you apermission slip daily via AI, if
you want me to, because you arespecial and you don't need to
be told you're connected tothree damn black holes for you
to believe it.
Right right Isn't?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
that ridiculous.
It's like well we all do it.
Yeah, we all do it.
So, yeah, so, anyway, this iswhat we like to call a teaser on
the Cat and Moose podcast.
We're going to be talking a lotmore astrology with Cat and,
just like everything I just saidprobably had 13 mistakes in it,
but was somewhat near the truth, this will be about the same
You'll get to follow on ourlearning journey.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, we're a curiosity podcast, not an
educational one.
Yeah, you know what to expecthere.
All right, we love you.
Know what to expect here, allright, we love you guys.
Thanks for listening.
Bye everyone, have a great week.
Bye everyone.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Special thanks to our producer, sarah Reed, to find
out more, go tocatandmoosepodcastcom.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Cat and Moose is a BP Production.
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