PATRICK CLOUD

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SPEAKER_06 (00:00):
Wanna let everyone know he didn't mention that none
of you ask about me.

SPEAKER_04 (00:16):
Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 (00:26):
I don't got some slide in my skill.
You see, I'm not you're st I'mnot the normal attractive.
Okay, I gotta I gotta I had tojoke my way in the drawers.
You know, I had to joke my wayin it.
I gotta be funny.
Anyway, you sexy ass.

SPEAKER_02 (00:55):
That Porsche, that lamb boy, they sit different
boy.

SPEAKER_07 (00:57):
Yeah, that nine that 9-11 is a Porsche is a very
specific company because theyonly everything they every car
they've ever dropped has beenthat's a Porsche.
Like you know what I'm saying?
And the 9-11 is a it's a ventureoff, but no, it's not.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14):
And it's crazy.
My per my personality doesn'tmatch the Porsche just in terms
of like everything that comeswith it.
Because like when I first gotit, I didn't really understand
that you can't go to like JiffyLube or like all the places that
I wanted to, they're just like,oh we're gonna.

SPEAKER_02 (01:31):
Okay, good, good, good.

SPEAKER_06 (01:32):
So what you was about to say?

SPEAKER_02 (01:33):
I was talking about him and his Porsche and how he
can't go to Jiffy Lube.

SPEAKER_01 (01:38):
Yeah, I get turned away from everything, so I just
end up getting like maintenanceat the Porsche dealership, and I
know I'm getting robbed.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's just like there's it'sit's like a specialty thing.
So I don't I don't if my mypersonality doesn't match that.

SPEAKER_07 (01:50):
Have you ever uh been on the freeway like going
fast and police let you go?
Yeah.
Yeah Oh really?
Yeah, it's definitelyprivileged, but then they see me
and I get pulled over.

SPEAKER_06 (02:01):
We didn't see the locks, Negro.
Whoop, whoop.

SPEAKER_07 (02:03):
Because I I know some so Porsche, you you have to
open them up.
Like this called a Yeah, it'scalled a um like an Italian
tune-up or whatever it's called.
It's like as like if you don'tthey don't drive as good without
you opening them up.
So you gotta do one and somechange on them to like if it's
ever acting funky, that'sprobably why.

SPEAKER_01 (02:22):
Oh, I don't I don't drive that fast.
Oh I'm not no, I'm not, I'm justnot that.
I don't drive, I don't get it.
No.
It's it's it's cool, but likeI've gone over a hundred.
I could probably count on twohands how many times I've gone
over a hundred.
You just gotta open it over now.
I don't see a reason to riskyour life for that.
You're not the risk of life.
It's it's late at night.

(02:43):
Don't listen to the hill.

SPEAKER_06 (02:44):
This is this isn't me.
This is better.
You know what I feel like I feelabout myself.
I'm such a uh uh young, old,grumpy Negro.
I hate people that drive fast.

SPEAKER_02 (02:54):
You know, people call me grumpy too.
Really?

SPEAKER_06 (02:57):
People call me grumpy.

SPEAKER_01 (02:59):
Yeah, that is kind of a grumpy.
I I feel that too.
Or like when they drive fast inthe rain.
Yeah, it's like why are youdoing this?

SPEAKER_06 (03:05):
I'm like, where are you going?
You know, if you're not likeliterally about to deliver your
child, like if it ain'tsomething like that or somebody
is dying, I'm like, where areyou going?
Where are you going in thisrush?

SPEAKER_07 (03:14):
I I'm not with you.
I think driving fast whenthere's people out or in the
rain is dumb as hell.
Mm-hmm.
When it is 1.30.
It's nobody out here, baby.
It's like, and I'm not gonnadrive fast the whole way.
I just wanna, you know, like I'mgoing to the Long Beach Laugh
Factory.
You know, my spot's 1115.
Okay.
Leave on time.
I I did.

SPEAKER_01 (03:34):
No, you didn't.
I did, but you don't needanother person to crash.
That's the that's the crazypart.
Think about all the people whojust swerved into a tree.
It's the worst way to do it.
You don't drive do that on thestreet.
You do it on the freeway.
Who's speeding up?

SPEAKER_02 (03:46):
This sounds dark.
This is a dark start.

SPEAKER_06 (03:48):
The hoodie.

SPEAKER_02 (03:49):
What you was about to say about the hoodie?
Uh, this is uh shout out toEssentials.
That's a cool color.
I'm glad you guys like it, man.
Not that not that I have theshoes to match with it.
Oh, okay.
It's not about that.
It's not about that.
How many washes do you thinkthat got in it?
You know what?
This is my actually is my firsttime even wearing it.
So uh shout out to my boy.

(04:10):
This is what I do, man.
No, listen.
To keep my heart in check, uhJustin asked for it, and
Justin's gonna have it.
I'm gonna get I'm gonna I'mgonna give this to Justin after
this.

SPEAKER_06 (04:18):
I didn't ask for it.
I said it was fire, and he saidyou can have it.
I said, I'm taking it then.
Don't be offering me sh.
As soon as you've done with it,I'm on it.

SPEAKER_02 (04:27):
And when he went when he went when he went out to
the car earlier, I was like, Ididn't commit to it.
But that's how we keep that'show we keep our heart in check.
Just I this is a brand newsweater, and I've had it for at
least three years.
What I know, I just I justhaven't been around to it.
But the point is, you gotta letit go.

(04:49):
Gotta let it go.
So you got it, Justin.
Thank you.
Thank you for the brother.
You got it, brother.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
That's how powerful hoodiethough.

SPEAKER_06 (04:57):
He left me hanging.
Don't be too generous with me.
Man, we got man, Patrick.
I'm gonna let you do the intro.

SPEAKER_07 (05:07):
Uh, what up, y'all, man?
Another episode of Killin' It.
I'm your boy B.T.
Kingsley.
London Brown.
Justin Hyas.
And boy, we got one in heretoday.
Man, this show.
Come on.
Come on, boy.

SPEAKER_06 (05:19):
Come on, come on, man.
Come on.
We doing it.
We just hit our quota on uhYouTube too.

SPEAKER_07 (05:25):
We just we just just uh I don't know when you're
saying this, but we definitelytoday.
Hey man, we just hit that.

SPEAKER_06 (05:34):
Baby steps, baby.
We all let them do this.
I don't think we are.

SPEAKER_02 (05:40):
I've never done it.
Yeah, this is lady's nipples.

SPEAKER_01 (05:43):
I see a lot of niggas doing it, but I just
don't know the rules yet.
Uh I don't know the rules.
I don't know the rules.

SPEAKER_07 (05:47):
It's like the middle finger, like a fist.
Man, a friend, uh, one of themost amazing creators I know,
one of the most hilarious peopleI know, uh, one of the entities
in our business that keepspeople employed and keeps things

(06:08):
moving.
The one and only Pat Come on.

SPEAKER_06 (06:12):
Cloud and we got Cloud, man.
Hold on, even before we reallyget into it, man.
What's happening, bruh?
I was telling somebody, I thinkI was telling Afyan Crockett one
day about you.
Okay.
I said, Patrick is the funniestperson that's not a stand-up
comedian that I have just likeseen on social media.
Because I we've been in somerooms together.

(06:32):
We've done like, I think we didlike Keon Pole uh show together
or something like that.
But just you naturally talking,just the things you be saying,
even on Roast Me, I'm like,bruh, for you to not be a
stand-up comedian, you have avery, very like great comedic
mind, bruh.
Thank you.
Yeah, man.
I mean, I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_07 (06:52):
We don't have a lot of our geniuses of that level
don't of our generation don'tget shine that light shine on
them enough.
Because they've always existed,you know, your uh, I'm trying to
think of all the brilliantpeople that might have done
stand-up, but that's not what weknow them for, like your Robert
Townsend's or Keenan.
It's like we know them for allthe other brilliant stuff that

(07:14):
they've created outside of that.
Uh what is your relationshipwith stand-up?

SPEAKER_01 (07:20):
You know what's crazy?
I have I do have FOMO.
I have FOMO about it.
I I I've respected it my entirelife, even way before I was in
the business.
I was huge on watching likespecials.
Uh my my favorites were likeLouis C.K.
Um and you know, obviously Iwent through like the Eddie
Murphy and the Richard Priors,but I really locked in around
like Chappelle.
That was like when I was like inmiddle school.

(07:41):
Um, and I've I've done it, Ienjoy doing it, and I I I really
like being in that umatmosphere.
But I was actually just thinkingabout this the other day is that
when you do the whole like Jackof All Trades, Master of None
thing, there are some thingsthat get left on the table

(08:01):
because it's just like when yourpriorities are in 10 different
things, you kind of have to sitback and be like, damn, I'm
probably not gonna be really,really good at any of these
things.
Um, so what I put my energy intois I I really like learning how
to make shows and productions,and then I can back up and see
if I have time to do it myself.

(08:22):
So, for instance, like when Iwas in middle school, I went to
performing arts, a performing, aperforming arts school, and I
was in like plays and stuff, andI did Joseph in the Technicolor
dream coat.
And there was a point in time Iwas in this, I was in red
overalls and a yellow shirtdancing around like this.

SPEAKER_08 (08:37):
And I was like, this ain't this ain't for me.

SPEAKER_01 (08:42):
The next year I was in stage crew learning how to
build sets and put the shows on.
I thought that was more not onlymy personality, but it would
take me further.
So um It was the damn dance.
It wasn't it was literally thisdance.
It was like it.
So I feel like there might be apoint in time where I take it

(09:02):
seriously and and start doingit.
Um, but once I realized thatthere was like an internet
popularity thing where I couldsell tickets but not be ready, I
was like, I'm not I'm not gonnabe that guy.
I'm not I would rather learn howto shoot a special.
And I was really I was um reallyblessed to be taught by like a

(09:23):
lot of great producers on how toshoot specials, and I think
that's probably what's gonnahappen before I step on stage,
for real.

SPEAKER_06 (09:30):
So uh I mean just thinking about even piggybacking
on that, you talking aboutshooting specials.
I look at somebody like uh AliSadiq and how he's kind of using
his YouTube page as a networkfor comedians to put out their
specials.
Is that something that youthought about or all deaf had
thought about to kind of useyour YouTube as a network to put
out other people's specials?

SPEAKER_01 (09:50):
Absolutely, and I I think that it's like okay, for
instance, like um when I firstgot into comedy, it was
Hollywood.
Hollywood was this weird entitythat was gatekeeping and only
letting certain comedians docertain things, and then after
that it was Netflix, likeeverybody wanted that Netflix
thing, but it gets to a levelwhere it's like, damn, I'm I was

(10:10):
really sick of seeing likeinsanely talented people just
not get those looks and thenfeel like they weren't good
enough because of that.
So, you know, you just broughtup A Fion.
I just saw him at um CT'sspecial, and he's producing,
he's now in that lane, and I Ieven had to just give him his
flowers.
I was like, yo, not only is thisamazing that this is happening,
I'm glad it's you because you'vebeen a face in this business for

(10:33):
so long, it makes sense comingfrom somebody who cares as
opposed to these like entitiesthat no one really knows about,
but people get in and then theyshut the door behind them.
So I could definitely see that,and it's but it's been something
I've been wanting all deaf todo, and I hope it they still
can, but I could definitely seethat being a uh personal venture
of mine too.
It just it just has to makesense because anybody can shoot

(10:55):
a special, um, but the it thecomedian cares, so they're like,
where's it going though?
You know, like is it just gonnago on YouTube for like 20
people?

SPEAKER_06 (11:03):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (11:03):
Um, platform matters, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (11:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (11:08):
So that uh that's a interesting segue.
I don't know if this is alwaysrealized.
You are one of the earlycultivators of the internet.
Oh no, I can I can't I can'ttake that credit.
No, I was too late.
No, you're not earlycultivators.
That's because you think we'vebeen in the internet for hella

(11:30):
long, and we have not.
If if the internet starts withinthe 80s or whatever, right, and
then my space is 03, right?
All deaths like 10 years later.
And I believe that the thingsthat are happening right now in
the internet are setting thebuilding, like right now, if

(11:50):
this was the NBA, we're stilldoo-doo-doo-doo doo doo-doo,
we're still black and white.
You're Bob Coozie as fuck.
I don't know if you know likeyou're Jerry West, like you are
not uh Steph, my nigga.
We're we're very early in theinternet, and all def's presence
in the internet will haverippling effects for years way

(12:11):
beyond us.
And understanding that, when youwere there at its inception, how
early on are you in all dev?
And what is the initial positionthere?

SPEAKER_01 (12:22):
Um, so right now I'm the oldest employee.
Um I went I I joined back in2014-ish, maybe 2013-ish.
And back then it was a room.
It was a it was a room behindthe annex of a bigger company
called Awesomeness TV, which waslike a white tween company.

(12:43):
Right.
And then it was 17 Magazine, andthen there was an annex, and
then it was all deaf.
And I um I was in I was anintern for awesomeness, but it
was only two times a week.
So one thing that the I wastaught was like, you know, when
you're doing an internship,you're not working there.
People get comfortable tooquick.

(13:04):
So don't eat lunch, don't donone of that, you know.
So I remember I was spendinglunch walking around, and like,
you know, one time uh someonegave me a little tour, and there
was like this little blackcompany in the back, like way in
the back.
It was cold.
And they were doing the dropback then, and um, it was like a
whole different um staff, butthen like Russell Simmons came

(13:26):
in and like he was like, Whatup, nigga?
Whoa.
Then he and he was like talkingto people and stuff, and so I I
I spent the summer as an internthere, and I guess I impressed
the right people.
Um, I signed on to be the VP'spersonal assistant.
This is the agent gentleman thatwas at the helmet's no black
woman, Aaliyah Williams.
Okay, she was running thecompany.

SPEAKER_02 (13:46):
Wow, Aaliyah, yeah.
Shout out to Aaleah Williams.

SPEAKER_01 (13:47):
Shout out to Aaliyah, shout out to Aaliyah.
She gave me my first shot.
Uh, she said she needed apersonal assistant, and I was
able to do that.
I didn't do it for very long.
I uh I I then became like anoffice PA.
I really did all the grunt work,like all of it.
Anything that you could thinkof.
I I there was a couple times Iwas like doing errands for
Russell, getting him vegan shit,and wow.
I remember I had to go to AaronBrothers and and frame uh def

(14:09):
jam posters and all this stuff.
But for the most part, it waslike equipment manager.
I didn't go to school for any ofthis.

SPEAKER_06 (14:14):
Did you get him any bitches?

SPEAKER_01 (14:16):
No, I didn't get him any bitches.
He didn't need me for that.
He did not need me for that.
I wasn't involved, I wasn'tinvolved in none of that.
I was involved in all the boringshit.
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (14:31):
I didn't see none of the none of the wild shit
apparently happening.
Yeah.
My bad, but anything else?
I cut you off.

SPEAKER_01 (14:39):
That was that was pretty much it.
I was equipment manager, youknow.
I I shot some stuff around theoffice, and I pretty much just
worked my way up to producer.

SPEAKER_06 (14:45):
And then how did you work your way up?
What was the moment when youwhen they started to see you
like, oh, okay, he couldproduce, you know, content for
us?

SPEAKER_01 (14:52):
Um there was three pivotal moments.
The first one was everybody waslocked in to their computers,
but like Slink Johnson wascoming in and taking off his
shirt, putting on shout out toSlink, he was putting on like
going in our prop room andputting on wrestling masks and
like yelling, and I was like,nobody's recording this.
I'm the equipment manager.
So I would be doing like littleskits around the office.

(15:13):
And then this that's when theywere like, okay, he could do
production.
And then the second time was uhthey were doing major stuff and
they just gave me a phone, nobudget, and was like, do our
Facebook.
So I was doing these POVsketches that ended up getting
like millions of views comparedto the ones that we were
spending money on that weregetting like five to twenty
thousand.
So I inadvertently got a lot ofpeople fired because they were

(15:34):
just like, let's just do this,and then a lot of people
couldn't.
So that kind of shifted me intoproduction.
And then the third one was thatthe uh once I was a producer, we
were in a pool of producers thatwere all kind of like pitching
and do and shooting stuff.
And then me and uh anotherproducer named Desiree Alcaraz
was like uh what was getting themost traction on our videos, so
we sort of elevated into thehead of comedy and heav head of

(15:56):
music.

SPEAKER_07 (15:56):
Wow.
Yeah, because it was it becauseRDF was a lot of different
things.
It was they was still they stilldo music and sports and and and
so on and so forth now.
But yeah, at that time it waslike uh it's a comedy and music
emotional, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (16:08):
Back then it was comedy, music, and poetry.
Yeah, yeah.
And poetry wasn't getting viewsor money, but uh Russell thought
it was important to just haveit.
And that was a good lesson I hadtoo.
So now like running a network,there can be some stuff that
takes L's, but it's just good tohave.

SPEAKER_07 (16:25):
Okay, so uh I'm I'm trying to line this up because
in my from the outside lookingin, I I remembered all deaf is
happening.
I remember uh there was an Asiangentleman who I felt like was at
the helm of it.
Sem something.
Sydney Kim.
Yeah Sydney Kim.

SPEAKER_01 (16:41):
Sydney Kim was the head of uh production, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (16:44):
And then for whatever reasons, uh no, so me,
I'm not there, he's gone, andthen I feel like youth takes
over.
It feels like, oh the the theprisoners are running asylum and
everything, it felt like it tooklike a skyrocket after that.
This is this is you and Kev andDoe, and this is just like these

(17:05):
Teddy Ray and and these entitiesstart existing and the other
shows start coming out.

SPEAKER_01 (17:09):
Yeah.
What am I missing?
No, so what happened was therewas kind of like a um a
restructure, and Kev was broughtin.
Kev was a big reason for thisbecause he was actually a
stand-up comedian.
Right.
And that's what a lot ofcompanies don't really do, is
they'll have producers trying torelate to this whole ecosystem
that they don't really get, youknow, and that's how you get

(17:30):
awkward producers.
But Kev wasn't awkward, he kneweverybody, he brought literally
everybody in Tahir, Meg, umDoughboy might have been
already.
I think he brought in I thinkDoughboy well, a lot of people,
it was just like the wild west.
Like Doughboy got his job.
He just came with his laptop andstarted writing scripts.
He wasn't getting paid, and thenwe eventually started using him.
And Tahir and Meg came andauditioned for the drop.

(17:51):
So it was kind of just like thisnew flood of uh of of people,
and Cindy Kiddon was stillthere, him and Kev were running
it together.

SPEAKER_06 (17:58):
Got it.

SPEAKER_01 (17:59):
Um, and then yeah, we just had like brainstorming
sessions where every producergot to like throw in ideas and
then the best ones they got toproduce, and then if yours did
well, you sort of moved up orhad like, you know, the
credibility of doing biggerstuff, which gave me the chance
to do my first show, which wasRemember That, which a lot of
people don't remember.

(18:19):
And then my second show wasRoast Me.

SPEAKER_07 (18:21):
Wow.
Yeah.
What up, man?
It's your boy BT Kings, the man.
Killing the pot is here.
Been a great time, man.
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You here?
Press that button.

SPEAKER_02 (18:28):
You you gotta talk about creating Roast Me.
Oh shout out to Brandon Lewis,shout out to uh Brandon Lewis,
Craig Smith, shout out to all ofthe shows.
Roast me, it just never getsold, man.

SPEAKER_01 (18:42):
Man, I got so much love for that cast, man.
It and and that that show showedme like I guess like my um my
breaking point, because it wasso hard to do.
It was so difficult to do.
They gave me a$35,000 budget,which I thought was a lot of
money.

(19:03):
And um at the time we had thismeeting, this big company
meeting, and um the boss uh atthe time his name Sanjay he said
um the two things we need rightnow is a game show.
We need game show format and weneed roasting format because we
just had Tony Hinchcliffe comein and roast Teddy and Doughboy
and it went viral.
Oh yeah.

(19:23):
And then we had a for the firsttime of old people learning how
to roast, and that went viral.
So we just had like thisroasting stuff going on,
bubbling.
And so I left that meeting and Iwas like, I'm gonna make a
roasting game show.
Which I thought the idea what atthe time was a good idea, but
that show really let me knowthat you kind of have to let
things cook for a little bitbecause the first season was
crazy.
I I found this old nuts andbolts factory um and it turned

(19:47):
into a production studio, and Irented it for three days, and it
was a hard three days.
I had a design team come in forthat first day, and we made the
set, and then the second day Ihad the camera team come in and
tape it off, and it just sohappened to be the hottest three
days of the year, and the AC wasbroken.
So it was sweltering in there,and then the third day I had uh
it was hot.

(20:07):
My I my I wasn't really good asa producer, I was wearing a
bunch of hats, so like littlethings like crafty and stuff
wasn't really right.
I didn't really make itcomfortable for the the the
team, it was all about myvision, and I was like, you
know, I wasn't letting peoplelaugh on set, and I was like
really, really a strict astrickler because I was I I
didn't know what I was doing.
And we shot it, it wasn't thatfunny, and I remember like I was

(20:31):
I was driving the the truck andputting everything, so I loaded
everything back on the truck,and I just like parked it
somewhere and I went home and Iwept.
It was the hardest thing Ireally ever did in my life.
I was like, that shit did notwork.
Which would you what did youlearn from that?
Um you can't force funny.

(20:52):
You need a team because no onecares about your vision.
The people who's doing sound,people who doing camera, they're
just doing what they're doingand then they're moving on.
They're not like, man, I hopethis works, you know?
So you have to make itcomfortable for people.
You have to make sure, like,like you did, as soon as I came
in, hey, you want some water?
Are you cool?
Like that that is how you runsomething because then all of

(21:16):
the like you're good on you'rebetter on camera, like that, you
know?
And it's just good practice.
Everybody's comfortable, yeah.
And you can't force funny, likeif you guys are all like hot,
you have you haven't eaten, allthat kind of stuff, and I'm just
like, all right, come on.
And it's improv, there's noscript, and it's like, all
right, next big joke, that kindof stuff, you know.
Like, like what?
You know, so that was that wasthe a big thing, but then it's

(21:38):
like I a big thing that Ilearned is that it doesn't have
to be perfect once it drops, andI still use that today.
It just has to come out.
You can tweak it.
It took a whole season of likeme looking at season one and
being like, uh, this is cool,but there's something missing.
And then the promotion for thatI filmed myself in a break room

(21:58):
and it was loose, and it feltlike School.
That's a big thing.
I was like, this the game showwhere it's like you have to do
this and get called on and do ajoke, and there's the rotating
thing and the blah blah blah,the blocking.
The marketing was it.
It was somebody in the hot seat,a bunch of people clowning, and
I was just picking moments up.
And I was like, this feels likeschool.
So then season three, I builtthe classroom and threw the

(22:22):
format out and and made it likecontrolled chaos.
And that's why I think no onecan copy it is because it's
there is no script.
I just figured out a way tocontrol that chaos.

SPEAKER_02 (22:33):
You know, it's uh excuse me.
That's you um what you saidlikened to what Kev on stage was
talking about, just like justgetting the content out.
Just sometimes we get sore inour inner in our heads about it.
Right, but just get the contentout.
Man, shout out to Kev on Stage,man.
Shout out to Youth, man, forthat vision and just not being

(22:53):
afraid to do that, man.

SPEAKER_07 (22:55):
Roast me is a is a uh is a crazy entity that is
like it's like never going away.
It's like you anything that'llbe going on and and I've been
I've been out with let me let meokay, we have to talk roast me
because you're fucking here.
Why Brandon Lewis?
I have a very specific reasonwhy I think why, but I want to

(23:17):
know why you why.
Shout out to Brandon Lewis, man.

SPEAKER_01 (23:19):
Shout out to Shout out to Brandon Lewis.
Brandon Lewis is actually one ofthe I'll tell you exactly why
him, but just that aside, one ofthe best hosts I've ever seen.
Um rest in peace to Teddy Ray,one of the most amazing
comedians to ever bless me withhis presence.
He was the original host um forwhen it was still getting worked

(23:42):
out.
Um but you know, he he after thefirst season, he just really
wasn't in it anymore.
And uh people think that wefired him and stuff like that
because people always assume thenegative, but he actually he
left the show.
So we were kind of in a positionwhere we were like, okay, we
respect that.
You know, we're still gonna westill worked with him for after
that.
Um, but we were just like, weneed somebody new.
And I had just gone to a show atthe Union, uh, that that old uh

(24:06):
comedy club, and I saw B Lou forthe first time, and he was also
one of the strongest roasters onthe show.
So that was a big deal to mebecause I wanted the the host to
roast also.
And Teddy was really good atroasting Doughboy, but I feel
like there was a part of himthat felt like it was mean, so
he didn't really go too tough onanybody, but Brandon was just

(24:27):
kind of like he was a good hostand he and he uh yeah and he
roasted.
But what I found out as we didthe show and as we made the show
grow is he's uh he's a master ofenergy.
It's not just the hosting, it'sthe energy.
And it was his perspective on alot of things that made me start
thinking of the show as more ofa sport than anything else.

(24:50):
Before, like season three, itfelt like a highlight reel.
It was just like this one did hedid a good joke, he did a good
joke, he did a good joke, he dida good joke.
But what I realized when we dida deal with caffeine, because
caffeine was like a liveplatform, and they were like,
you have to shoot for an hourlive.
And I was like, I'm used toshooting for 40 minutes and
cutting it down to 20.
So that was terrifying.
But then I realized like, hmm,it's this is like boxing because

(25:12):
it takes a miss from me, a missfrom you, a good joke from you,
uh okay, a miss from you, andthen a huge joke for you to for
that to build up.
And then that joke is so muchmore funnier than just a huge
joke, huge joke cut, you don'tknow.
You know what I mean?
Like it's like I learned how themisses worked, the jabs, it's
like jabs, big hits, misses, youknow, like breaks.

(25:34):
It was like a it was likecontrolling uh it was
controlling the energy of ashow, which then was like, oh,
okay, I see why people arebreaking it down the way they're
doing it.
It's not just like, oh, this wasa funny episode, this wasn't a
funny episode.
It was like people were breakingit down like an NBA game.
And that's when I was like,okay, you need you left that in
the edit.

SPEAKER_07 (25:53):
Yes.
You left in the edit the therhythm of of how I build.

SPEAKER_01 (25:57):
Well, not that I I would I would move some things
around and control it, but wehad to do it live.
We had a whole team, it was anhour straight.
And I and that's when I was justlike, okay, you can't just sit
people in a room and let themroast for an hour.
That's not a show.
But you can do certain things tocontrol the energy and and and
make spikes and and and and howdo how do we get out of this

(26:21):
lull?
Whereas the season one was justlike, all right, what y'all got?
So that's when I say likecontrolled chaos.
There was just like a lot oflittle little things that I
picked up.

SPEAKER_06 (26:30):
Um I wanted to know, is there any part of you that
wants to develop content fortelevision, or you like, that's
not even necessary now, let mejust focus on online?

SPEAKER_01 (26:43):
You know, there was a point in time where I was like
all in for YouTube.
I think it was a it was a pointin time where I I was at
awesomeness, and they revealedto us some numbers of some shows
that were on cable, and thesewere like not necessarily like
prime time, like channels threeto twelve or nothing, but like

(27:06):
pretty big channels.
And they showed me like theaverage season opener or series
opener, like view-wise, and thatthose numbers was like a bad
video on YouTube.
Right.
So that's when I was like, oh, ashift changed, like, regardless
of what people are talkingabout, this is where the
eyeballs are.
So I'm glad that we shifted tothat and put all of our energy

(27:29):
into it.
But now that like cable's out ofit and streaming is starting to
like pick up things that werebased in re web series, I s I
see myself doing both.
Shout out to Kev on stage again.
He's he's kind of unlocked that.
He's he's putting a lot ofthings that were meant for
YouTube up on streamingplatforms.
So it's kind of like, okay,seeing that that's possible, it

(27:51):
that's definitely something thatI want to get back into.
Also, especially scripted.

SPEAKER_07 (27:56):
Got it.
So uh do me a favor, put thisphone on here because I don't
want it messing up your soundand it is going crazy.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Uh the the the my my logic onthe Brent Lewis thing was when
he's one of the strongestrosters.
Yeah.
Uh and and uh you kind of wantuh somebody in the sport
commentating.
It's like like you said, like ifit was an NBA, it's like, oh no,

(28:18):
this is Shaq talking about howbig men should dominate in the
paint type shit.
It's like, oh yeah, that thatall makes sense.
And uh energy thing.
So I was like, I'm glad it wasuh it's in alignment because if
you know B.
Lewis, then you know that.
When I'm I can I'll be trying tofigure you out.
So like you have it's the behindthe scenes thing, right?

(28:39):
Okay, cool.
This genius brain is creatingall these things behind the
scenes, but then on the flip,you're very clear about your
brand.
You have uh does the where didthe logo?
Obviously, cloud is right inalignment, but your logo is
specific.
It is on clothing, it is onblankets.
I have seen the big booty girlsand little shorts in them.
The drawing or the like thedrawing is the logo, the one on

(29:02):
your chain.

SPEAKER_01 (29:03):
Yes.
Uh how how how do we get here?
This?
Yes.
Oh, I drew this in class inthird grade.
Oh wow.

SPEAKER_08 (29:10):
Wow.

SPEAKER_01 (29:11):
This was before my name was Cloud, actually.
I just I I drew this on a pinkpiece of paper, and that paper
like followed me.
I found it in middle school, andI was like, huh.
I found it in high school, andthen I was walking around my
college campus and it was likein a bag I was in, and I was
like, okay.
So Cloud isn't your last name?
No, it's not my last name.

(29:31):
Oh, I didn't know that.
My last name is Houston.

SPEAKER_06 (29:33):
Oh, Houston.
Oh that's right.
I did see that.
I mean, my last name hires, andpeople think that's a fake name.
And I'm like, yeah.
It's real.

SPEAKER_01 (29:43):
I I did that to protect my family in case I
fucked up.

SPEAKER_06 (29:46):
Right.
But to piggyback on what he'ssaying, that was something like
you seemed very comfortable withwho you are.
Thank you.
I want to know, was that alwaysthe case?
Like in in like elementary,middle school, were you
comfortable?
Were you kind of the awkward orshy dude, or were you always
like, no, this is who I am, andit is what it is?
Um, no, I I definitely wasn't.

SPEAKER_01 (30:08):
I definitely wasn't comfortable in school.
Um because, you know, normalgrowing up black shit, you know.
Am I black enough?
Am I too black?
Depending on who you hangingaround, that kind of stuff.
But um, I don't know.
I I was always a musician, so Iwas very much introverted.

(30:29):
I kind of um I guess it wasweird.
Like I was I was popular withoutlike what'd you play?
Uh piano.
Oh yeah, yeah, dude.
I played piano, but um in inelementary school I played the
cello and then through middleschool I played the sacks.
So I was always kind of likedoing something.
Um, but I feel like that justhand in hand made me sort of

(30:51):
like introverted, like gottapractice and stuff, you know.
Um but even in even in college,I didn't really like talk to
anybody.
I would just I I wasn't like apartier ever.
Why do you say it like that?
Gotta practice.

SPEAKER_03 (31:02):
Yeah, gotta practice.

SPEAKER_02 (31:03):
Why you why human accent?

SPEAKER_08 (31:05):
Why did you use that accent?
That is how I said it.

SPEAKER_01 (31:11):
But I don't know.
I think that um I think I don'tknow, just over just over time
growing up.
I've always been like how I amis how I am, you know, like like
but the comfort kind of camewith that.
Like, yeah, this is this isfine.

SPEAKER_06 (31:26):
Did it come over time or did it come with
success?

SPEAKER_01 (31:31):
Um, probably over time.
Yeah, definitely over time.
Yeah.
Because um, I think that thatcomfort helped with my brand a
lot.
It actually became my brand, ifI think about it.
Like, it was just sort of like,you know, wearing stuff that I
wanted to wear, and people whodidn't like the fit would say,
like, it works for you.

(31:52):
You know, that whole thing?
It's eclectic.
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (31:55):
I love that for you.
Yeah.
I hate when people say thatshit, too.
I love that.
So what that means?
You really don't fuck with me.
You can't like it with me.
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (32:03):
I was like, that's cool.
That's my personality, I guess.
Where'd you grow up, bro?
Uh, Los Angeles, ArlingtonHeights.
Oh.
I I was born in Laurel Canyon,and then at 15, I moved to uh um
Crenshaw and Adams.
Any siblings?
Older brother, older sister.

SPEAKER_02 (32:17):
Oh, so how did you do you feel like you got uh
being middle, do you feel likeyou got enough attention or?
No, I was the youngest, so I gotall of it.

SPEAKER_01 (32:28):
But no, I was definitely like the whole like
trope of youngest has to begoofy, ease the tension of the
room.
That was that was for that wasme.

SPEAKER_02 (32:37):
Were you like class clown?
Or was that your thing?

SPEAKER_01 (32:40):
I was class clown, but I was also smart.
So um my my parents would alwayssay, like, that my teachers
would say he's really, reallysmart.
And I was like questions was mything.
I was always asking way too manyquestions.
But then I guess that balancedout me joking.
Because I was never likedisrespectful cra class clown,
it was just like make the roomlaugh.

(33:03):
Okay.
So it's kind of like I was theteacher's pet, also.

SPEAKER_07 (33:08):
Uh, teacher's pet plus London went to high school.
And I don't know if this was myquestion, but we have to ask it.
First of all, pause.
All right, pause.
All right?
To what was said or what's aboutto be said.
What's about to be said?
No, he was about to say.
Oh, let's go.
This doesn't count, Justin.
This doesn't count like as apause?
No, this counts as a pause, butthis don't count how I've set up

(33:29):
all the other uh women for thatquestion.
Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_06 (33:33):
No, it's gonna be a real pause.
If he asks, how have you made itas a beautiful women love you?

SPEAKER_07 (33:43):
I don't know if you know this.
In my Discord, there is like uhthere's a this dreamy Pat Cloud
thing.
Did that exist in high schooltoo?
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 (33:58):
But I always had them.
Hold on, but I always had them.
Shut up.

SPEAKER_07 (34:05):
Because having women, having women uh support
is different than having dudessupport you.
It's like, oh yeah, thanks,fellas.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
But like the the there's a uhwomen, I've had, I get to live
in a world where I have homeboyswho know they will around women,
as do I.

(34:26):
We all respect each other asassassins.
I also live in a world wherewomen are very comfortable with
me and they say what they sayand they mean what they say.
And I've uh you're one of thenames that comes up.
And I'll be like, all right,cool.
Can we talk about somethingelse?
Like, can we can we move a lot?
Can we forward thisconversation?
Um, do you feel that in thebusiness as as far as like when

(34:47):
you're promoting stuff, when youare selling something, when
you're dropping art, becausewe're gonna talk about music.
I don't know if you think youjust slid past that, which I
gotta practice.
But do you feel their support?
Women?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (35:00):
Of course.
I think I'll I'll probably go asfar as to say that most success
starts with women, regardless ofthe genre, you know, because I
think that a lot of what drivesmen is rooted in women, you
know, whether that be the moneyor like the success and all

(35:22):
that.
So it's crazy, like whenwhenever you see something blow
up, sometimes you can kind oflike trace it back to, you know,
where it started.
And a lot of times it'd be likea bunch of dudes, like let's say
a bunch of us were like lookingat a new artist or something
like that, and we'd be like, Inigga trash, right?
Right, right, right.
And then all the women aretalking about him, like this

(35:43):
nigga's hot, this blah blah blahblah blah.
And then at some point, thisgroup, this room of dudes is
like, let's go see what they'retalking about because all the
girls is over there.
Right.
Right?
And then eventually that samegroup can be all super fans of
that dude because of theirintroduction.
So I think that women supportwithout the ego part of it, you

(36:03):
know?
And I just think that they justgo hard.
Like a lot of a lot of my uhsupporters, like the the the
ones that go the hardest arewomen.

SPEAKER_07 (36:13):
Yeah, but I'm not talking about support.
I'm talking about they want tofuck.
Oh, wait, what?
I'm no, I'm not talking about,oh man, this is a great person.
That's not what's not what itis.
And London knows what the fuckI'm talking about.
He overreacted bashful, but he'snot.
It's not about me.
It's not about me, Cameron.
It's not about me.
Cause because I'll be out placesor I'll be in conversations and

(36:35):
I'll hear where this is whatthis is how the conversation
goes.
Two women talking, so hey, sowhat's going on with London?
Hey, so you know, Pat, and I'mlike, why are you asking me
about that?
Ain't got nothing to do withwhat we're talking about.
So, so when these kind ofthings, I'm talking about that
kind of support.
Like this, you know, you know.

SPEAKER_06 (36:55):
I I wanna I just wanna let everyone know.
He didn't mention that none ofthese bitches ask about me.
Now he just left me like I'm aloser.

SPEAKER_05 (37:07):
You're faithful in your in your own.
That's what it is.
That's what it is.

SPEAKER_04 (37:12):
Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 (37:25):
I've been slimy, I'm like in drums.
You see, I'm not you're stillI'm not the normal attractive.
Okay, I gotta I gotta I gottajoke my way in the drums.
You know, I got to joke my wayin it, I gotta be funny.
Anyway, you sexy ass nigga.

SPEAKER_07 (37:47):
That is the bummer of y'all put it in the comments.
But I'm I'm not, and mind you, Inoticed I didn't put myself in
there either.
And and I am a certifiedassassin.
I live a great life.
But I know I have boys where mywhere I've seen women throwing
themselves at them, and I'mlike, and I don't know what the
fuck is going on.
You know, shit, you fucking, youknow.

(38:09):
So you ask one drill, as far asI'm concerned.
But but when but that supportjust seems like a uh an
interesting thing.
And I'm watching you navigateit.
I'm just like, are they buyingthe clothes?
Are they I'm seeing them, butthey be having the little draws
on with the little clouds ontheir butts.
Yeah, man.
So you're specifically talkingabout like fucking.

SPEAKER_01 (38:29):
Yeah, I'm talking about those women.
I'm talking about that kind ofsupport.
Well, okay, so I think that onething that we're not really
taught a lot growing up as men.
Coochie comfort.
What is that?
Coochie comfort.

SPEAKER_06 (38:42):
What is that?
That supports you for theircoochie.
I feel like they support you bygiving you some ass.
It's coochie comfort.
Like, I like you so much.

SPEAKER_07 (38:50):
Give some coochie.
I don't even know if you've metthese women.
I'm I'm not even saying that I'mnot sure.
I mean, I'm I mean um, I get Iget what you I get what you're
saying.
It's a different support.
It is, but I don't think womensupport Ruben Stutter and Trey
Songs the same way.

SPEAKER_06 (39:06):
Oh, they support Trey Songs.
What's wrong with it?
Wait, what you mean, TracyHongs?
I see what you're saying.
Uh oh, those niggas are bothvery talented.
I mean it's funny, bro.
This nigga will I he will eyefuck you?
Wait, as a nigga?

(39:27):
You sure he didn't want tofight?

SPEAKER_07 (39:30):
He never fight too.
That nigga never likes to fight.

SPEAKER_06 (39:38):
Yes.
Okay, I mean, I've met himtwice, I've met him twice.
Great dude.
He I fucked you both one time.
Oh, so you you you hitting about50% with Trent.
50%.
One of the times that makes yougonna be confused.
I look a little feminine nigga.
What was the what was theenvironment?
It was a club.
This is my club.

(40:03):
I'm looking like a damn littleindustry.
Hey, Mr.
Drama.
I've never been in the same roomas Dreysa.
Oh, you never been in.
Oh, nigga, you will be nigga.
You are a fawn to him, okay?
What's those little deers?
The fawn.

(40:23):
Watch out.
Gucci Comfort.
You're women.
Gucci Comfort.
Speak on it.

SPEAKER_01 (40:30):
Oh my God.
Okay, so.
I don't know.
It's like it's it's like unicornadvice, but um, like I don't we
we we don't get taught enoughabout like sexual discipline.
Yes.
And um like there would be likementors in the game that

(40:51):
essentially say that likethere's nothing wrong with being
in a room filled with women thatwant to fuck you and not fucking
all of them.
As a as kids, we grew up rappersand I'm fucking all of them.
But like when you realize thatthat's that's like just not
doing that is is is power initself, you know, you don't have

(41:13):
to do that.
You can be exclusive.
But a big thing for me also waslike, you know, being in a
position where I'm around a lotof beautiful women that are
looking for a um they're they'rearound me to work, and I'm in a
position to cast.
I don't touch that.
You know, and that's just mepersonally, because I've seen a

(41:35):
lot, especially like newproducers that just got that
power, you start seeing a lot ofweird stuff.
And I talked to these women too,and there's when I was a when I
was a young producer, I wouldjust straight up ask them, and a
couple of them told me, like,don't even don't even try.
If they if they holler at you,that might be a little
different, but the whole liketrying to get at a girl and then

(41:59):
being in a position where you'reyou control if they're in a
project or not, a lot of peoplewill like slight them if if it
didn't work out.
And I just I don't even want totouch that.
And plus I've had some I I'veI've been working for companies
that were in the Me Too movementand stuff like that, you know,
multiple.
So I've seen bad examples of itfrom a high level and from the

(42:22):
level I was at.
And it's it's it's somethingthat I don't I don't entertain.

SPEAKER_07 (42:27):
It's beautiful.
The uh music.
What is your relationship withmusic?
Because I personally am a fan.
Hey, cool.
Hey, drifting is in my rotation.
So so uh how often do you liketo put out music?
Like just what's therelationship with it?
Do is it something you want todo all the time?
Is it you do it when it's funfor you?

SPEAKER_01 (42:46):
Yeah, it's definitely not something I want
to do all the time.
Um, I used to live in a studiothat was in my my uh parents'
like backhouse.
Grat was like a garage.
So I was doing it all the time.
Um after the pandemic, I waspretty much spending most time

(43:06):
like getting into streaming,travel shows.
I just my my attention shiftedand I didn't really want to do
that.
It was usually like an album ayear, just to just to do it, you
know?
Um and then like uh from 2021 to2024, I didn't really do
anything.
Um but then last year I put outlike a small EP.

(43:27):
I just I just shrunk down what aproject was because a lot of
times when you like, I'm gonnado this project and it's huge,
it gets overwhelming, and thenyou either never start or you do
a little bit of it and don'tfinish it, and that's me 100%.
So I sort of reduced it to likejust a just an EP, and that kind
of like built the momentum.
And then I dropped an albumearlier this year, and then I
just dropped an EP on Halloween.

(43:49):
So it's kind of one of thosethings that it just kinda
happens when it happens, but Ijust did so much music in my
twenties.
Like a lot of these songs arejust old, so I just I just like
dress them up and drop them.
But I I don't really do musicanymore.
When I my my focus now is liketo get into like DJing because
it's way more upbeat.
When I when I do music, all mymusic is like very sleepy and
slow and stuff like that.

(44:10):
I don't really do upbeat music.
So when my friends translatedinto like DJs and started
performing and doing like hypestuff that I probably could
never get done on stage myselfwith my own music, that's when I
was like, okay, this is the nextmusic vehicle for me.
But I still want to drop.
Who do you listen to?

(44:31):
Who are like your go-tos?
Um you know what's I think a bigreason why I don't do a lot of
music is because when I listento music, it's more like when
I'm boxing or in the gym.
And that's like that's likeweird meditation music.
I listen to a lot of meditationmusic because I it just makes me
focus a little a lot.

(44:52):
So I haven't really beenlistening to artists a lot.
Um, but I I would say like thelast few albums I downloaded
would be like maybe Tame Impala.
Um who did I just download to?
I I'll I would say like myall-time favorites would be like
Tribe Call Quest and like ODB.
That's probably what I listenedto.

(45:14):
So random.
Yeah.
Um but uh yeah, recently I'vebeen listening to like a lot of
electronic music.
Like there's this, I can't evenpronounce her name.
She's like this Russian girl.
Um that's who I've beenlistening to.
Just kind of like trying newstuff.
And I also grew up kind of likelistening to a lot of rock.
Yeah, like the Beatles.
I love the Beatles.

SPEAKER_02 (45:34):
That's probably my favorite band.
You seem grounded, bro.
Uh you seem grounded.
And my my question to you wouldbe as a producer, I know that
your mind is always from what Iknow from um the producers I
work with, you guys are alwayslike you're always forward

(45:54):
thinking.
Um, what would you what wouldyou if you had to make a call to
yourself, the past or the pastor future, you what would you
say to that person?
From the production point ofview, stream in general.

SPEAKER_01 (46:11):
Whoever live stream, who would what would you say to
that person?
I would call back and saystream.
Every every idea, everyproduction idea that you have,
see what it looks like to streamit.
Um and that that actually helpedme.
I I was producing a a studioshow earlier this year, and um

(46:32):
they ended up they ended up notbeing able to do it, so I
reworked the entire thing into alive stream.
And I was like, I don't know ifthat's like better or worse, but
I think that's where the thewhole industry is going.
I think at this point we're kindof late, but it's still like you
know like Bitcoin, like it'slike 10 years ago, it's like you
missed out, but if you do itnow, and now we are here at a

(46:54):
point where it's like, damn, Iwish I did it.
You're an early adapter tostream.
I feel like you're an earlyadapter to Twitch for sure.
I was a I was early in terms oflike I was in the no because
I've always just been lookingthere.
Okay.
But in terms of like locking inand doing like doing that, I
missed that.
Like back in the pandemic, Ifeel like everybody touched it
because we couldn't do nothingelse.
Right.

(47:14):
But you know, the people whoreally stayed with it, I mean,
that's how we have a Kai Sonatnow and AMP.
That all started in thepandemic, but I think it was
happening before then with Ninjaand stuff like that.
So, and uh I actually justconsulted with a couple of
creators who were thinking ofdoing the whole production
thing, and I was just like, lookat it uh as a stream and see if

(47:35):
it's not better or worse.
And a lot of them switched overand ended up saving money and
being able to do it.

SPEAKER_06 (47:43):
What you think about this?
Is just an idea I just had.
This might be a dumbass idea.
An all-deaf 24-hour stream, andyou would have different people
that's known on all deaf coming,almost like radio.
They would come in for two hoursat a time, kind of entertain the
audience or whatever, and thensomebody else come in.

SPEAKER_01 (48:01):
That's definitely on the table.
Um, we have a 24-hour seven uh20 hour, what the fuck did I
just say?
24-7 live stream of all deaf,but it just runs programming.
And then we had like um a couplevirtual cons over the pandemic
where it would be sort of like ahost at a time kind of coming
in.

(48:21):
So it's it's definitely it'sdefinitely possible.
I think it's just about sort oflike, you know, merging the two
worlds, because I think why alot of older people like don't
get the streaming thing isbecause there's no structure.
It's usually just somebodyyapping about something you
don't know or playing videogames.
And if you if you're not intothat stuff, it's hard to get

(48:41):
into.
But I noticed with like, I don'tknow if if anybody's seen
Streamer University.
Have you guys seen that?
Uh yeah, yeah.
That was big amongst people 30plus because there was reality
TV angle of like the the theprofessors are they gonna hook
up that whole thing.
Right.
There was the uh story angle oflike the young guys, you know,

(49:05):
getting in trouble and stufflike that.
It was structure.
And that's when I was like, oh,that was the one thing that was
missing with the older people,is just structure.
Right.
So now I'm thinking of like,okay, the older people know
about the studio stuff and theyounger people know about the
live streaming stuff.

SPEAKER_07 (49:21):
If you can meet in the middle, is that what you
think is next?
You think streaming is the theway this is our yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (49:29):
I feel like that too, cause because it's like
appointment, it's almost likethat's the only way to have
somewhat appointment television.
Yeah.
Where it's like you have towatch it now.
That's why sports does do sowell.
Yeah, yeah.
Because they don't.

SPEAKER_07 (49:43):
That's the best part.
Yeah.
And they but they appointment,they appointment stream.
Like most streamers have, hey,I'll be on at this time, and
people pull up.
So it's almost like reverseengineering away from streamer
streamers like uh Netflix, theyou know, the the big box people
or whatever.

SPEAKER_06 (49:59):
The well, hold on.
That that was gonna get me to mymy my next question to piggyback
on that is so what would be thetip if somebody was just
starting social media today, andthey're like, I'm trying to grow
an audience, I'm trying to growmy brand, grow an audience,
what's like one or two thingsthat you would tell them to
focus on or they should do?

SPEAKER_01 (50:19):
Well, the thing that I love about streaming that I
feel like a a lot of people itactually um gets in their way is
that the live element is a bigpart of it, but that can come
later.
Like, if you if you okay,imagine this was a stream,
right?
You guys had to shoot thisanyways.

(50:40):
Yeah.
And then you gotta edit it, andthen you gotta put it out.
It's a lot of time and and a lotof money, um, and then you have
to chop up clips.
When you shoot something live,you kind of are all doing
everything at once.
You have to be polished enoughto not mess up so much that you
need those cuts and all thatstuff.
But there's also a littlelenience when when you're live.

(51:01):
Like if you mess up and some andyou have a fan base watching and
it's live, a lot of timesthey'll people, you know, they
would let us walk off and getsome waters and then come back,
you know, like it's very muchlike hanging out with the
person.
But what a lot of people don'trealize is that if you have to
shoot it and drop it anyways,you stream it and you're you're

(51:22):
clipping the whole time.
So now you can stream it, youcan take that live stream and
put it on YouTube, and it's justlike you shot it.
You can cut that up if you want.
So now you get the live streamwith the fans, even if they're
not there.
You get the live editing andclipping, and then you get the
project that you wanted,anyways.
So it's not really hurting youexcept the Wi-Fi and the

(51:43):
performance element, but thoseare things you got to upgrade,
anyways.
So I would I would definitelytell new creators to just put
the effort into streamingbecause you can get all of that
other stuff from there.
I used to do reaction videos andcommentary videos where I would
have to shoot myself and thenedit it with the thing, but now
with my streams, I'm actuallylive watching it, and then I can

(52:04):
cut it.
So it's like the format is alittle different, but I'm doing
what I was doing before wayeasier.

SPEAKER_06 (52:09):
How do you do?
Because I I I dabbled in thatfor a little bit, maybe about a
year ago.
Like doing reaction videos on astream.
Yeah.
Who's editing your clips though?

SPEAKER_01 (52:19):
Me.
You are because I don't have to.
I have a a stream deck righthere that has a whole bunch of
buttons on it, and one of thebuttons is clip.
So anytime I that I uh saysomething funny or something
that I a moment that I like, Ipress that button, and then
after the stream, I go back andI grab it and I post that.
Go a step further.
I know that.

(52:39):
I'll give you one better.
If the audience is in there,they'll clip it too.
They'll be like, that washilarious.
They can clip it for you.
You can clip it.
So you're doing three things atonce.
You're doing the live one thatyou're one thing that I hated
doing, I hated shootingsomething and then shooting a
bunch of stuff, and then thatfirst thing I shot never came
out.
Y'all ever did that?
Yeah.
But if you stream everything,everything that you're working

(52:59):
on is out.
So even if you miss going backand clipping something, you
still gave that to people.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (53:07):
Wow.
That's well, it's so funnybecause this is something that I
mentioned when we first started,you know, but I was saying
that's how we could do ourPatreon, which is we could
stream this live.
Like if we had our Patreon setup, we could be streaming this
right now, and then whenever wewant to put out the polished
episode, we put that out, youknow, whenever.

(53:29):
But our Patreon people would getto see this like today.
Early.
Early.

SPEAKER_01 (53:33):
Yeah.
Exactly.
And you don't that's not evenlike an extra step besides
posting the link.
Yep.
Yeah.
So, okay, and then niggatomorrow.
I'm sending his Patreon.
Blame him.
You've been on damn internet,you scary.
We send you the link everysingle time.
This is a two side.
You should have been told themthat.

SPEAKER_06 (53:51):
Sitting on the information.
I said it's like three monthsago.

SPEAKER_07 (53:55):
You know, BT.
Yeah, shit, crazy, man.
Um man, Cloud, man, so let'sknow.
Uh I wanna I still want to knowwhen you knew Roast Me was a
hit, but we also had to talk dadjokes.
Yeah.
Because that's also your baby,right?
Yeah.
So um, because I I I these aregotta, these have to be two of

(54:16):
the higher uh like watermarksfor all deaf.
Um how did you know Roast Me wasa hit, and when did you know dad
jokes was a hit?

SPEAKER_01 (54:26):
So those two um worked polar opposites.
One was a hit right away, one Ihad to bust my ass for, right?
So roast me was like, I havethis idea, we did a test
episode.
Um, I was like, I think thiscould work.
We shot the first season, I waslike, this did not work.
But what was weird was that thatpromotion where I was like

(54:48):
walking around and stuff likethat, that was promoting season
one.
So people were watching that andthey were like, this is a hit.
And then season one dropped, andthey're like, This wasn't what
we so it was kind of backwards.
The promotion ended up hittingbetter for season one.
So then season two happened.
I would say season three waswhen we when I knew for real,
because then it was like, okay,I had some time to work with

(55:10):
this, and people other peopleare making compilation videos.
So everything blew up onFacebook.
Facebook was like the thebaseline for almost everything
all deaf.
It blew up first on Facebook.
So Roast Me as a show was doingokay, but the compilations, the
uh highlight reels, the CraigSmith, the boo comps, you know,

(55:31):
the the Doughboy comps, the theindividual stuff was getting
millions.
So that's what really made RoastMe a hit, but that was you know
three, three, maybe four yearslater.
Dad jokes.
I pitched the idea.
Um shout out to Kev on stage.
I wanted to call it Zingers.
Thank Jesus.

(55:52):
He was like, they're dad jokes,though, you should call it dad
jokes.
I was like, okay.
We shot the first episode, uh,Tony vs.
Kev.
It was so early, I didn't evenput the jokes subtitles in yet.
Um we dropped it on Friday.
By Monday, it had three millionviews and had been on Good
Morning America.

SPEAKER_06 (56:13):
So wait, how many subscribers did you all have on
YouTube?
Was it on YouTube or Facebookthat they got these views?
The three million was Facebook.
Okay, and then how manyfollowers did you have on
Facebook when you dropped that?

SPEAKER_01 (56:25):
Ooh, on All Deaf?
I don't know.
Okay.
I don't know, because we hadalready uh we had already built
up some pretty good numbers on,and we were doing the show
called For the First Time and IsIt True.
Okay.
That would do really, reallywell on Facebook.
But Facebook was where stuff wasgetting like high millions.
At our peak, YouTube was gettingbetween like one and five
million.
I think um, yeah.

(56:46):
There's a couple ones that wentcrazy, way crazier than that,
but that was like that would belike the average.
But Facebook was the one thatwas getting really, really up
there.
So dad jokes was like rightaway, and then when we started
using celebrities, that's whenit really like went went crazy,
especially Will Farrell versusMark Wahlberg.

SPEAKER_06 (57:03):
How involved is T.I.
still with all deaf?
And chance too.
Chance a rapper?

SPEAKER_01 (57:09):
Chance is an owner too, right?
No, chance that was a while ago.
I don't even know how far thatwent, but I wasn't I I talked to
Chance a couple times about somethings, but I I don't know how
far his involvement went.
Um TI TI is an investor, and Ithink he pitches uh a lot of
stuff and and gets it made, butthat's over on the ATL side, so

(57:30):
I'm not 100% sure.
Uh but the the extent of myworking relationship was with
him was uh roast me.

SPEAKER_07 (57:37):
Got it.

SPEAKER_01 (57:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (57:38):
The um and and how did things change when Cedric
came in?

SPEAKER_01 (57:42):
Uh you mean like just culture genesis in general?
Yeah.
Culture Genesis bought us in2019, and a lot of people don't
know we closed because we neverstopped dropping.
We uh it's kind of funny.
I I guess I could say this.
Kev was our like productionleader, right?
He would like lead all themeetings and stuff.

(58:03):
And again, shout out to Kev.
He was not supposed to tell usthis, but he told us way too
soon.
He was like, We closing, y'allshould look for more jobs,
different jobs, right?
Because he's like, I'm not aboutto sit here and lie to you guys.

SPEAKER_07 (58:14):
Y'all my friends.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (58:16):
Then at the end of that week, it turns out that was
not the case, and we were stillopen for a little bit, but
everybody was on edge.
We saw the writing on the wall,all that kind of stuff.
Um, I had just gotten approvedto do a full production.
It was called Working Wild, andit was like a travel show with
Tony Baker.
Oh, yeah, I like that.
Yeah, what's crazy about thatshow is that that was filming
when we closed.

(58:37):
So we had just, you know, shotup our podcast episode.
The office was just running.
Um, I was I was in the edit bay,you know, giving notes and all
this stuff, and then we just hada meeting randomly, the
all-hands meeting that was justlike, all right, it's that's it.
Everybody clean they clean theuh desks out.
And then I got pulled to theside and they were like, You're

(58:58):
still gonna finish working wildthough.
So you're gonna stay on becauseyou have to do the edits.
We still got a bunch of stuffcoming out.
So it was just very surreal.
Everybody was leaving with theirboxes, and I was staying behind,
I was staying behind to work onthis show with Tony Baker.
I didn't even know if it wascoming out.
So there was all these amazingmoments with Hawks landing on

(59:21):
his arm and he was herdingsheep, and everybody was like,
Oh, this I can't wait for seasontwo.
And I was just like, damn, Idon't even know if any of this
shit is so literally right afterrapping, all the all the crew
was like, This is this was oneof the best things I ever shot,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'd fire everybody, I'd fire mywhole team.
It was one of the hardest thingsI ever did.
But um, we closed, and then Iwas just kind of like in charge

(59:44):
of these edits that lasted allthe way until the end of the
year, and then Culture Genesisbought us while we were still
dropping weekly, so nobody knewwe closed.
So, like from the beginning ofthe year to like the end of the
year, we were just a ghostchannel that was had a couple
people on on uh salary justdropping stuff.
So Culture Genesis comes in as atech company, and um, they've

(01:00:07):
really just been uh focused onthe ad side of things.
We started signing a bunch oflike we signed like LOL and
Steve Harvey's network and likejust a bunch of black uh
creators and and to our network,and then that made us more
popular on the marketing side ofthings because it wasn't just
all def numbers, it was allthese channels of numbers that

(01:00:30):
was like a network, and then wecould sell ads and brands
against these numbers that itwasn't just all about all death.
So I thought that that wasreally, really smart because it
gave us brands we never wereable to work with before, like
Snickers and McDonald's andstuff like that.
So just selling us as a giantblack network was better than
just all deaf.
And I think that's what CultureGenesis mainly did.

SPEAKER_07 (01:00:50):
So I I I have to that's a great segue, boy.
We I would have been mad as hellif you would have left out of
here, and I did not talk to youabout you have multiple podcasts
and the uh behind the scenesview of all death sponsorships.
How do you say somebody who'sgetting in?

(01:01:11):
How do they try to find them?
How do they because they changeeverything?
They the the money makeseverything work a little
differently.
Yeah.
How how how do what do they whatdo it feel like to you that they
are looking for?
Who?
The sponsors.
When for for let's say for damnin your nature scary, damn damn
in the nature scary or thickthreads, or it you do a bunch of

(01:01:33):
different stuff.
Yeah, but they be there.
Working with bad is goodbusiness.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:38):
So it's like it's not just the numbers, like don't
they it's hard to it's hard tosay because it's all it it is,
it really is about the numbersbecause that's why they would
you know invest in it.
But I I will honestly say thatthe bigger the brands, the less
I know about it because all defhas a sales team.
So I'm kind of brought in onlike, hey, we're talking to this

(01:02:00):
brand, this brand, this brand.
We need stuff like this, andthen I'll write some shows for
that, and then just try to makeit as authentic as possible,
fighting against all thatridiculous red tape, you know,
because a lot of the the biggerthe brand is, the more people on
legal, the more you can't reallysay, the more you can't really
mention, and the less fun it is.
So I guess the job is likeexecution based on all those

(01:02:23):
parameters.
But in terms of me on a personallevel, I don't I only get brands
through like podcasts.
I don't I'm not like really intobrands on my own.
Um so that's just a matter of mnumbers, you know.
But in terms of like the biggertalks, that's I'm lucky to have
like a sales.

SPEAKER_07 (01:02:42):
What do you think the the not the number is, but
where do you think okay, now weshould start seeking out these
things.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:48):
Podcasts, 20,000.

SPEAKER_07 (01:02:50):
20,000 views or episode when you're averaging
those.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:52):
Yeah, I think that's the lowest level.
Um when uh when I first starteddamn internet, you scary.
I mean things could havechanged.
That was back in 2019, but um itwas kind of just like, yeah,
we're not we we jumped the gunand we asked like the company
about the brands and stuff, andthey told us, but they were just
like, you're not there yet.
Like 20,000 per episode.

(01:03:13):
And then that's for the lowones, as you go up.
I mean, uh for the company wewere at and the and a couple
other companies, like I was atum Revolt for a little while.

SPEAKER_07 (01:03:22):
Nothing streak of bust.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:28):
Well, you be winning.
I mean, you had the RussellSimmons and but in and soon as
it jumped in the buttons beforethe bullshit, but not a witness.
Like I did a short stinningupstein.

SPEAKER_07 (01:03:52):
Dead jokes with Epstein.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:55):
For a couple reasons.
That's at least an animatedsketch.
Please don't.
Animated, don't do it.
Please clip that.
Um you're gonna go on, man, doyour thing.
This one speaking of podcast.
Yeah.
I had this question.
Gotta cross my legs.
Took a while.

SPEAKER_08 (01:04:15):
Doo doo.
Do the doo doo doo.

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:19):
Anybody listen and I was crossing my legs and my foot
hit the table and it took awhile to cross these legs.
Um, you have a podcast withPersephone?
Yes.
How difficult is it for you toconcentrate?
It's easy.
Is it easy to concentrate?

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:34):
Yeah, she's beautiful, but it's like, I
don't think we would be able todo the show.
If I that's what that was a bigthing, was like a lot of
comments were just like, How areyou doing this?
And it's like, would y'all watchit if I was just, oh, god, you
know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:48):
In the whole episode.
Anyone that hasn't seen it, Icame across one of her videos
randomly, because I'd be doinglike reaction videos.
I didn't know she was a part ofyour podcast.
So I just seen a video of abeautiful woman with the biggest
breast I had ever seen in mylife.
But she looks like she carriesit well.
You know how some women looklike they in pain?
She never looked like she inpain.
She doesn't like, it looks likeshe carries them well.

(01:05:11):
What's strong?

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:16):
It's drunk.

SPEAKER_06 (01:05:16):
But I looked at a clip and I said, he's not
looking down at all.
Like you was having a legitimateconversation with her.
For the life of me.
For the love of you.
For the life of me.
How you were able to do that?
Locked in.
You locked in.

(01:05:37):
That's why you're successful inlike this book about being
disciplined.
I don't think I don't think Ican do that.
I can do it in stance.
I was drilling, I didn't evenrealize that.
But I'm gonna look at thechicken, but I mean you learn

(01:05:59):
you learn to.
Perseverity, we would love tohave you on killing it.
And I promise you.

SPEAKER_07 (01:06:03):
She's a sweetheart, too.

SPEAKER_06 (01:06:04):
I will put I'll put a marker or something on your
forehead.
Something to keep my focus.
Just wear shades or something.
I'll wear shades.
I got some shades.
Thank you for telling me that.
I'm an unprofessional dishresponse.

SPEAKER_07 (01:06:18):
I don't know.
Uh how does um in my brainyou're a you're a gun collector.
Yeah, I just got one.
I just got my last one.
Come on.
This is not your last one.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:34):
Let's be honest.
I have four pistols.
Okay.
I got four pistols.
I just got a submachine gun.
I have a rifle.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:45):
I have a sniper rifle.
I have a shotgun.
I know I'm missing something.
Oh, I have two rifles.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:51):
ARs.
I have three rifles.

SPEAKER_06 (01:06:54):
Uh who you think coming for you?

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:56):
Another pistol.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:56):
Who coming for you?
It's not that.
It's really just like I want tolearn how to use every type of
gun.
Yeah.
You know?
Like I I don't know.
It's just one of those things.
I there's a range I go to.
Um You got an outdoor range yougo to?
No, it's indoor.
And they let you shoot what?
They don't let you shoot theshotgun and uh I can shoot
everything, but uh nothingautomatic.

(01:07:18):
Um I don't have anythingautomatic.
But I mean we're talking aboutthis location at off the thing.
Yeah, yeah.
I can I could shoot uh sniperrifle there.
Wow.

SPEAKER_06 (01:07:27):
So my homeboy collect guns.
Oh yeah?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he's a bunch of them too.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:31):
I think it's I think it's important because it's like
one of those things that twothings, okay.
I growing up, my dad had thisriot gun.
It was like a shotgun, and thatwas like the family protection.
Like, you know, I knew where itwas and all that thing.
I found out as a grown man, hehad never shot it before ever.
And then I learned about guns,and I was like, that shit might
not have even worked.

(01:07:52):
Like when you don't I get it,like people are nervous around
it, but I think that's whyeverybody should It's just a
tool.
You gotta, you gotta the worstthing that can happen is you
hurt yourself because you don'tknow how to use it, or you're
nervous with it.
So I think it's just importantto know.

SPEAKER_07 (01:08:06):
I need somewhere to shoot my shotgun.
I tell everybody, I'll say, ifyou don't think you need a gun,
the moment you go in the gunstore, you realize you need it.
Because only two people work ina gun store.
It's the red-haired dude withthe beard and the hat, is
ex-military is really fit.
All ex-military.
Yeah, and he was like, Thisdude, if boy, he got hands.
I got a spot around we're inBurbank, right?
Yeah.
There's a spot right down thestreet.
I know exactly what you'retalking about.

(01:08:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Direct?
Yeah, yeah.
Uh I'm talking all you'retalking about on Magnolia.
I think it's on Magnolia, GunsDirect.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:34):
There's a few, there's a I go to Gun World.
See, don't okay, so I know thatspot too.
It's like a damn Costco forguns, right?
The the spot I'm going to, it'sall that's on the opposite side.
All ex-military.
There might be four or fivepeople working there, and it's
just like a little shop.
Like in Grand Theft Auto, youknow how you walk in there and
there's like guns on the side?
They'll walk you through it,they'll give you the test.
Like it's it's way moreone-on-one.

(01:08:55):
Whereas in Gun World, I feltlike I was just like trying to
flag down somebody.
It felt like Target.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (01:09:01):
Literally Target.
There's uh But yeah, because theonly other person that works in
there is the is then it's thelittle frumpy, you know.
Why your voice go like that?
Because he likes molestery inthe face.
Hilarious.
Yeah, it'd be like it's alwayslike a little, a lot of times in
the gun store, it'd be like alittle.
I'm not buying a gun fromsomeone who's molesting.
No, but I would say that's whatyou're buying from.

(01:09:23):
Yeah, a little school shooter inthe face.
And I'm like, you know what?
He's like, he's like, you knowwhat?
I need a gun.
Just because if I want to whoophis ass, he got an AR on his
back.
It's like, and and he clearlyknows how to use it.
So it's like, go get your gun,man.

SPEAKER_06 (01:09:37):
I I want to know anything crazy happened.
You got any like onset stories?
Like anything crazy happenedthat you remember?
Yeah, yeah.
Definitely.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:48):
Which ones can I say?

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:51):
On set.
I mean, you know, Roast Me hashad its fair share of fights.
We we do need armed securitynow.
Really?
What?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:01):
I thought it was at least from the from the outside
looking in.
Well, first of all, I uh uh uhmost of everybody on there I
know, unless there's some anout-of-town comic of somebody.
But it seemed like it seemedlike fun love.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:13):
Yeah, for sure.
I think that the best people arethat, you know.
But I think that there is like athere's like an unspoken
hierarchy in in in Rose Me, youknow?
Because it's just like who'sbeen here, who's been killing
it, who has their seat, right?
It's a very aggressive show inthe sense that it is actually

(01:10:33):
fully unscripted, so you know,if you really don't bring it,
you can get next levelembarrassed, right?
So if somebody is somebody'scoming in there like, I want his
seat, I'm gonna go at him, blah,blah, blah, blah, and it doesn't
go well, they can get in theirfeelings pretty quick.
Um, but a big thing that I didnot know, um, and this is just,

(01:10:55):
you know, sort of like thegrowing pains of producing, is
that when you go to another cityand do that, you don't know who
knows each other and who don't.
So I was just out therescouting, getting a whole bunch
of like, I won't say where, butlike, you know, we we traveled
to different places, and in someof the places, I got a bunch of

(01:11:16):
people who individually canroast, but I didn't know their
relationship with each other.
And sometimes I was pairingpeople up or putting people in
the same room who actuallydidn't like each other.
And that didn't translate wellto roasting because if niggas
already don't like each otherand one person gets lit up,
they're gonna try to fightoutside.
And you know, we've had gangscome up to the office and niggas

(01:11:38):
waiting for people outside.
Wow.
Well, no.
I will say this.
We've been we've been givingBrandon Lewis his flowers.
That nigga is strong.
Oh, I tried to hold this niggaback one time.
That damn near put me in thegym.
I was like, this nigga is B Louwith the B Lou with the smokes.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:55):
B Lou.

SPEAKER_07 (01:11:58):
Yeah, and he's an athlete.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:59):
B Lou is a strong nigga, man.
What have somebody was trying tofight him?
Yeah, B Lou was not in thewrong.
And I won't I won't go into it,but like, uh, I'll tell you
later.
Okay.
But like it wasn't, it wasn'tanything serious either.
But um, I mean, it's just, youknow, niggas, it's niggas niggas
sometimes.
It's it's cool.

SPEAKER_06 (01:12:14):
Yeah, see, Sidney Castillo just told me, what was
that, Laugh Factory on Sunday?
He was like, you should do roastme.
I said, I'll be done forsomebody, bro.
You know, I'm little, I'm fromFlorida, you know, because I be
feeling like, oh, you saying theshit that you've been thinking
about me for 15 years.
Right.
And now you feel like this isthe safe space for you to get

(01:12:35):
that off your chest.
Now I gotta fight.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:38):
Well, I mean, if you change your mind, let me know.
Okay.
A big thing about Roast Me is itit kind of let me know how to
take a joke.
I mean, uh, we were already kindof there by all the bullying of
all deaf, anyways.
But I feel like it was kind oflike, you know, I realized it um
we had an episode with uh JayWheels, rest in peace.
Yeah.
Um and uh he he was in awheelchair, and uh he was

(01:12:58):
flaming people up, people wereflaming him up, but um
afterwards we were talking tohim and stuff like that, and
this woman came up and uh shewas like, hi, I just want to
introduce myself.
I'm Jay Wheels' mom.
And I was like, Oh shit.
These niggas were going crazy onhim.
I didn't know his mom was here.
And such a nice lady, she said,Um, I just want to thank you for
this because this was like likeyou really included him, you

(01:13:21):
know?
And that's when I was like, Man,I'm thinking of this all wrong.
Like, this is not a show aboutbullying.
That's why I put the little, Idon't know if you guys ever seen
the beginning of the show, hasthe little South Park warning,
like, yeah, this is uh this iswhat this is, do not do this,
because we didn't want peopleimitating it at school.
Um that's when I was like, oh,okay, this is this is like uh

(01:13:42):
this is almost healing.
You know, a lot of people comeon there with their
insecurities.
If I came on here with my bignose and 20 20 minutes of niggas
talking about my nose happens,it's almost damn near like shock
therapy.
And then you dap up all thosepeople and it's love, you're
just like, okay, I was way tooin my head about that.
You know, it's not that big of adeal.

SPEAKER_07 (01:14:00):
When you said that my brain um automatically went
to Brandon's skin, I was like,bro, they used to be a Brandon
skin.
Something crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:08):
And that was, I mean, that was tough, but
honestly, every time Brandonbrings that up, he brings it up
positively.
Like, and Brand is a greatroaster.
He's a great roaster, he couldtake a joke, and that was good
for his brand.
A lot of people don't realize itis that if you're in a good
moment, you're in a good moment.
It don't matter what side, aslong as you take it well.
But there's a lot of people whogot flamed up, didn't say
nothing back, who come up to meand they're like, Man, everybody

(01:14:30):
talks, oh, that's you fromroast, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it's love, and sometimes ittranslates into ticket sales.
And I can't, I I love that.
Wow.

SPEAKER_06 (01:14:38):
That's beautiful to me.
That's dope.
All right, we got a game on thisshow.
Hell yeah.
We call it Kill It or Let Live.
Okay.
All right, basically, I'm gonnathrow out a topic.
You're gonna say whether weshould kill it, you don't like
it, okay, or let it live.
It's all good.
All right, kill it or let live.
Having you have a hundredmillion followers on every

(01:14:59):
social media platform, but youhave to participate in a ditty
party.
What kind of ditty party?
You know which one.
We talk about the man, the worsthe in the corner rubbing semen
on his breast.
Oh, that kind of diddy party.
Private one?
Not even the mansion one?

(01:15:20):
No.
A hundred million followers onevery platform?

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:23):
Nah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:25):
It's a kill it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:26):
I don't, yeah.
The stuff he was doing was tooweird.
It is very weird.
And it's gonna be recorded bynipples.

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:32):
Semen on the nipples?
I don't think I'm putting semenon nobody's nipples.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:37):
Don't add an extra S on there.

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:39):
Okay, it's a kill it.
Kill it or let live.
Hooking up with a white woman onJuneteenth.

unknown (01:15:45):
What the fuck is wrong with this nigga?

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:47):
I don't know what's wrong with it.
I don't First of all, that'shilarious.
Second of all, let it live.
What did Dr.
King die for?
What's a better name to do it?

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:56):
That's reparation, some percent.
Seems right.
Okay.
All right.
People can't kill it or letlive.
People constantly sending youreels in your DMs.
Let it live.
Oh.
Let it live.
You must be the one sendingthem.
I know.
I mean, sometimes, but that's athat's a good way to like source
some content.

(01:16:17):
Okay.
Here it goes.
Starring in movies for the restof your life, but the movies
will only be seen on Tubi.
That's cool.
I'll let that live.
Let that live.
I don't mind Tubi.
All right.
Let's see if you mind this one.
I know.
Eating your lady's assimmediately after she left the

(01:16:41):
gym.
Oh, kill it.
Oh.
No.
No, I don't like extra sauce.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:48):
I don't want the twang.

SPEAKER_02 (01:16:50):
This guy over here is a little different.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:51):
Hey, he's a big one.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:53):
Are you a nigga like that?
I know that you guys exist.
That that you guys have the gym?
Why you don't talk like they'reover there?
I know you guys exist.

SPEAKER_07 (01:16:59):
No, because it's it's been in the ecosphere of
podcasting forever.
I I these are two separateentities that they like to mix
together.
What?
Yes, I have said possiblypartook in eating some ass.
And I don't mind dealing with alady post-gym.
Don't mind is different than.
I don't suck titties after.
Like, I know I don't prefersucking titties after she leaves

(01:17:21):
the gym, but I will.

SPEAKER_06 (01:17:23):
You like twang on your tongue.
You like a twang your tongue.
It's a little salty.
Tarton.
I like savory over sweet, mynigga.
Oh, VT.
This has been the killing act.
Make sure you like, comment,subscribe.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:37):
Nah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:17:38):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:39):
I don't know.
I don't think it's any, I don'tthink it uh is a bad thing to
say, wash your ass first.

SPEAKER_07 (01:17:46):
Yeah.
I'm not eating no ass.
You know, eating ass is adelicacy.
You do it every night.
BT.
Twice a year.
BT.
Exactly.
Like Blovin.
You gotta get the poisons out,bro.
Eating ass is a delicacy?
Y'all don't eat ass?
BT.
After the gym.
I'm not talking about after thegym.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:04):
Y'all talking about after the gym.
I'm saying eating ass ingeneral.
I don't think I ate ass thisyear.
This year.
Congrats.
I was still about to get mychip.
You got two weeks left.
Two weeks left to kill my chip.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:25):
That looks natural.
The closer the legs on thefront.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:37):
Oh my god.
Don't cross the fish.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:41):
Don't cross the feet.
Let me do it like this.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:46):
The seal like black ones.
Kill it a little.
Kill it a let live.
This is the last one, becausethis done going on too long.
Balding men going to Turkey toget hair implants.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:05):
Uh let it live.
If I have that problem, I'mdoing that.
Okay.
I'm just waiting for the hairscience to get better.
If I start balding, I'm I'm overthere.
I'm Turkish, baby.

SPEAKER_06 (01:19:17):
Hold on, this is the last one.
This is the last one for real.
It's only because it was on thesubject.
You're the richest man in theworld.
Let it live.
Hold on, hold on.
Wait a minute.
Let it live.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:29):
Let it live.
Okay, whatever it is.
Let it live.
I'm the richest man.
That's a bad thing.
I wouldn't want to be therichest man on the on earth.
Hell no.

SPEAKER_06 (01:19:36):
You're the richest man in well, okay.
You're one of the richest men inthe world, but you can only eat
your food through your bootyhole.
Silence.
Pregnant pause.
Holy shit.
I can't eat no food through mymouth.
Only booty hole.
You have to grab it with yourass.

(01:19:57):
So, like ribs?
You have to stick a rib in yourass?
Why are we going to be though?
Why are we that we're?

SPEAKER_02 (01:20:02):
Because I'm wondering, like, is this a new
science?

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:06):
Is it liquidated first?
Or am I just putting fulloranges up there?

SPEAKER_06 (01:20:09):
I love D D railing such a great conversation.
I'm not everybody.
Anybody that was like, what thehell just happened in this
interview?
I apologize.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:20):
I would be so fit though.

SPEAKER_07 (01:20:24):
That's a little bit.
Where does it come out?
It goes back in and come rightout.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:28):
If that was the only way you could eat, you wouldn't.
I mean, I get it.
Your booty hole does have tastebuds.
I did learn that.
Does it?
Mm-hmm.
I heard your nuts have tastebuds too.

SPEAKER_07 (01:20:37):
Why would they, though?

SPEAKER_02 (01:20:38):
What are you?
Your nuts have taste buds.

SPEAKER_07 (01:20:40):
No, there's like, there's like uh people testing
it online with like dip it insomething?
They're just like dip them in.
Don't don't do your show.
You know what I'm talking about?
They dip it in the little.
Don't dip.
That's they dip.
And they'll be like, spicy.

SPEAKER_02 (01:20:53):
Yeah, that's orange juice.
You can dip your balls?
Is that a truffle?

SPEAKER_06 (01:21:00):
All right, man.
I'm interested.
We all over the place.
I'm dipping balls.
I'm letting it live.
Top five video.
I'm out of here.

SPEAKER_08 (01:21:07):
Yes!

SPEAKER_07 (01:21:09):
It's a clip.
I'm letting it live.
Uh top five uh top five videogames.
You're a huge gamer.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:15):
You guys are I would be very surprised if you agreed
with these.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:21):
Umcarina of Time on the 64.
Mario 64.
Mario 64 is great.
Uh you know what?
I'm a big Pokemon guy.
Pokemon Red.
The first one.
Uh I don't know.
I don't know.
Grand Theft Auto San Andre SanAndreas?

(01:21:43):
Okay.
I don't care, but I do.
I'm going to Smash Bros.

SPEAKER_07 (01:21:52):
Alright.
I'm with you.
Uh and then we outta here afterthis, man.
If you can, uh career-wise, youcan picture you're killing it in
every aspect.
What does it look like?
Specifically business-wise.
Are you behind the scenes?
Are you directing?
Are you you got a Pat Cloud TV?

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:15):
Um, I'm definitely always gonna do both because my
thinking is that it's okay ifyou don't think I'm funny
because I just produce somethingfor BT that you might like, you
know.
So I think that you have waymore wide range.
So it's definitely both of that.
I think ideally it would stillbe as free as I am.
I don't want to get so good atsomething that that's just all

(01:22:36):
my time.
So I think it would be um stilluploading what I want to do
content-wise online, uh just ata higher level.
Uh my nights can be eitherdivvied up between streaming and
actual live performing.
Um and then just like now, like,you know, I might have a week
where I shoot three things, Imight have a week where I shoot

(01:22:58):
one thing.
I think just peppering it inwith the bigger shoots.
Um but I kind of always wantedto my idea of success was just
growing all of the plants that Ilike What am I trying to say?
Garden.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:11):
You fertilize all the plants that you can do.
I don't want to say fertilizethough.
What's the other thing?
How do you just put a seed inwhat's that called?
Sewing?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I just want everything to grow,you know.
I just want everything to grow.

SPEAKER_06 (01:23:22):
I just want everything to grow.
Yeah, dip them balls, man.
Hey man.
No dip them balls, no?
I'm about to hey man, this hasbeen a phenomenal episode, as I
knew it would be, man.
Very insightful.
Uh man, man, you one of myfavorites, man.
I gotta actually start followingyou on your social media.

(01:23:42):
I'm one of them creeps that belike, what is he doing over
there?
Oh, I like what he's doing.
With the animals, boy.
You better that was interesting.
Um ladies and gentlemen, uh oh,before we got, make sure y'all
like, comment, subscribe, makesure y'all hit that subscribe
button, make sure y'all uh hitus up in the comments.
Uh make sure you follow uhPatrick Cloud on all social
media platforms.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:59):
It's just Patrick Cloud, right?
Yeah.
On Twitter, it's Pats on YourBack.

SPEAKER_06 (01:24:05):
That sounds like a Pat's On Your Bitch back.
That sounds like a back shot.
I've been adjusting higher.
I'm Linda Brown.
BT Kingsley.
And the one and only PatrickCloud, everybody.
Thanks for having me.
This was fun.

SPEAKER_05 (01:24:18):
Hey, turn up.

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