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Have you ever considered the profound influence your environment has on your ability to thrive? From the corner provision shop to the unpredictable world of entrepreneurship, I've ridden the rollercoaster of success and failure, learning the hard way that the spaces we occupy and the company we keep can make or break our ambitions. I share these pivotal moments with you, offering a narrative that's as much about resilience as it is about the indelible impact of our surroundings on our journey.

As we unpack the layers of business acumen and loyalty, our esteemed guest lends their perspective on the intricate dance of forming wise alliances, navigating workplace dynamics, and facing the unique entrepreneurial hurdles present in Ghana. The conversation spans from the strategic approach to investments and the necessity of market research to the cultural integration vital for thriving in Ghana's business landscape. It's a candid look at the challenges and opportunities awaiting those who dare to venture, with practical advice steeped in personal experience.

To round off, we broach the elusive quest for balance in life and business. Is the notion of a perfectly balanced life achievable, or is it merely a myth? Our dialogue shifts to the importance of self-care and mental well-being, underscoring that while dedicating ourselves to our paths is crucial, it should never come at the cost of our health. We close with insights on the power of belief and connection, drawing wisdom from historical parallels and personal triumphs to inspire you to forge ahead with support and conviction in your own endeavors.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you don't change your environment, your
environment changes you.
And if you change yourenvironment to suit where you
want to be or where you want togo, it's become easier for you
becoming who you are and whatyou want to be.
If we don't do it, then who?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Number one business and self-development podcast.
Connected minds podcast.
Okay, so, doc, do you?
Do you not also think, though,that people need to have
experience in certain fieldsbefore they start thinking about
business in certain areas?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
of course I mean um, they start thinking about
business in certain areas.
Of course I mean um.
First of all, you, you need theexperience.
You need experience, as I said,um, you need to be mentored,
and, and, and.
As a mentee, you could be ableto learn the trade.
You learn how to talk to peopleabout it.
I always say that, um, eventhese conversations we are

(01:06):
having you should be able to belistening to such conversation
to understand what somebody wentthrough.
But if you start by yourselfand you have no idea, you end up
falling.
Because I mean, when it comesto business, it entails a lot of
things, and so I believe thatif, let's say, you want to go

(01:30):
into cars and you have no ideaabout how to even ship cars from
abroad to Ghana, you should beable to have an idea of those
things Going to the harbor youknow to pay, who you pay to and

(01:52):
all those things you know.
You should be able to havethose ideas.
If you don't do so, you'll befacing problems.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Absolutely, I think so.
I think it's necessary because,especially for us, before we
started, we had to take a job,you know, in the same
pharmaceutical industry,understand how the SOPs are put
together, the standards you know, regulatory framework you know
before we started.
And obviously, because we didthat, it slashed a lot of the

(02:25):
mistakes that we would have made, that maybe the big boys made
in the past and they'vecorrected.
So I definitely think that youknow.
You hit the nail right on thehead.
Now I've got a question, though, which is what's your?
What's the first business thatyou ever created or started?

Speaker 1 (02:44):
It was a provision shop.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay, yes.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
And it was a kiosk.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
You know that small kind of kiosk these days they
call it container.
Yeah, but it was a kiosk.
That was what I started.
I had one fridge, you knowdefreezer, and so I bought farm
milk and then rice you know apack of rice and then also sugar

(03:12):
and gary.
So, uh, you know such treeright right right right you know
that sort of thing.
So that's how I started it.
It so buying one bag of rice.
After selling it, I was able tobuy two bags of rice.
So that is how the businessstarted, wow.

(03:35):
But you know, eventually Iinvited my brother to come and
take care of it and he collapsed.
But then what are thesechallenges?
To come and take care of it andit collapsed.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
But then, while these challenges pose as risks, to
the business how do you, as anentrepreneur, rise above those
challenges and failures that youface in business?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
One, we believe we are called for it.
Two, we believe that if wedon't do it, then who People's
daily bread is in your hands.
I mean, there has been sometimes where, monthly, you know

(04:33):
you did not make any money, butyou have to go look for money to
pay your workers.
You know that they were notable to meet their target, but
you still have to go and lookfor money and pay them to meet
their target.
But you still have to go andlook for money and pay them
Because if you don't, they aregoing to sleep without eating.
You know, and if you're a trueentrepreneur, when you see

(04:58):
yourself even paying them, thatbecomes your joy.
You know, because you have theheart to care and to love.
And then also you see those whoopen jobs, those who are
entrepreneurs.
They are the ones who love thenation because they believe that
that is what they can do to addtheir quota to the what do you

(05:23):
call it?
The country.
You know, and I won't lie toyou.
Sometimes I mean where we are,I mean you'll be there, and then
GRA will just drive and passevery you know business on the
line around the area.
Just come to your place.
Last time they came with a carwhen they saw the facility oh,

(05:45):
we know, you're making money da,da, da da with force.
Why?
Simply because they think youare part of one particular
political party.
You know, and that's whathappens.
Yeah, you know, but what canyou do?
You still have to be inbusiness, and most of us, I can

(06:08):
also say, because of where weare coming from, we know how we
have suffered looking for a job,looking for a meal to eat.
That was a problem.
So if you have got opportunityto be able to create jobs, why
do you give up?
You still have to keep on doingit.

(06:29):
That makes you a trueentrepreneur.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Wow, you know.
You mentioned that there aretwo most dangerous things that
can work against a person, whichis friends and environment.
Can you elaborate on that?

Speaker 1 (06:52):
I, I would have even say environment, environment,
environment and yourself.
If you don't change yourenvironment, your environment
changes you.
If you don't change yourenvironment, your environment
changes you.
And if you change yourenvironment to suit where you
want to be or where you want togo, it's become easier for you

(07:14):
becoming who you are and whatyou want to be.
And so your environment, yoursmell, the smell of your
environment is part of yourenvironment.
The way you dress is part ofyour environment.
The way you talk is part ofyour environment.
What you eat is part of yourenvironment.

(07:35):
I mean the friends you have ispart of your environment.
You know what you touch is partof your environment.
So you must be deliberate bycreating your environment.
I hope you understand.
You must be deliberate bycreating your environment.

(07:55):
If you want to be a greatbusinessman, you must be
deliberate.
Look at the people that youknow.
They are wiser, they are morewiser than you.
Walk with them, listen to them,you know and ask questions.
These are the people you shouldbe around if truly you want to

(08:18):
go to that place you want to getto.
You know there's a saying showme your friend and I'll show
your character.
Yep, you know.
And so the thing is that I meanif, if you say you don't smoke
weed, all right, I mean you, youstudy medicine, so you know
what I'm saying.

(08:39):
And you said you, you don'tsmoke weed and you're among
people who are smoking.
Scientifically, you inhale morethan the one who is actually
smoking.
You're actually getting more,more.
So it tells you that the peoplethat surround you, you benefit
from them, even if you are poorand you're among rich people.

(09:02):
If you are poor, anyonewatching us, if you are poor and
your're among rich people, ifyou are poor, anyone watching us
, if you are poor and you areamong your friends are rich.
The problem is not your friends, the problem is you.
Yes, most times, if you findyourself in any business as just
a worker, don't look for whatthey will pay you.

(09:23):
Look for how you can be apartner.
Invest to be a partner insteadof seeking for increment of your
pay.
Learn how to pay people.
When you have the mindset ofpaying people, you become the

(09:45):
master yes, wow, that was deepand there is another thing that
I believe that I mean most ofthe people should look at.
When you go to a workplace,your colleagues are not your
friends and the one you must beloyal to is not your colleagues.

(10:08):
Work with your colleagues andbe loyal to the work and the
owner of the work.
Your loyalty should go for thatperson, not to your colleagues.
Your colleagues are there foryou to work with them.
So expose anything thatdestroys the work.
Become the work.

(10:29):
You know the business must beyou and become the business, and
when you do so, automaticallyyou will be spotted and you
become the work.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Recently we had an issue at the pharmacy and it was
the manager that was causingthe issues.
So I went in and I realized allthe manager that was causing
the issues, right, so I went inand I realized all the issues
that were happening.
Then I started calling them out.
I had to speak to them andevery person knew what he was
doing, but never spoke to me.
They all knew.
They all knew what washappening, ghana, but they were

(11:07):
very loyal to the manager, notto you, you Not to me.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
And this is what destroys business in Ghana.
Hey, so I won't say it.
No, what about after thebusiness has collapsed and you
go back home?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, so I think what then happened was, a month or
two after that, one of thecolleagues that knew what was
happening and never told me cameto me for support, personal
support, and then I said, well,it's great you've come to me.
But then the question I want toask you is if you had watched

(11:49):
this business collapse wherewould the?
help come from.
So sometimes you know people wework with, we employ.
They don't think very far.
In fact, most people say thatthey are very myopic in the way
they think, very close-minded Ithink it's wickedness.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
They are wicked to themselves and to you.
You see, do you know, in Ghana,one of our problems, apart from
the politicians okay, one ofour problems is workers, huge
yes, and there's nothinggoverning or supporting

(12:28):
businessmen because they see usas thieves, or supporting
businessmen because they see usas thieves, you using your money
to build a business.
They see you as their money isin your pocket, you know.
So you have a manager in whichthat manager or, let me say, a
secretary and you give him adocument to go and photocopy.

(12:49):
You give him a document to goand photocopy.
The secretary will photocopyand photocopy one for herself or
himself, because he's going toopen the exact business you are
opening.
So he will just take thebusiness module and go and

(13:13):
reopen same form of business.
But they don't know that vision,the visioneer carries the
architectural you know diagram.
So you have no idea, but theywill destroy yours and cannot
also run theirs.

(13:34):
This is what is happening inGhana.
So I think that we, asbusinessmen, we should I
wouldn't say we should becareful, because we cannot be
careful we should be able tocome up and find a way to speak
to the politicians that thereshould be a law.
Instead of thinking about theselaws and all that, they should

(13:57):
think about a law that wouldprotect business owners.
So I mean, abroad these thingshappens.
There are protections, you know, and if they could do so,
businesses would thrive?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Doc, after being in the UK andbeing successful in the UK, why
did you finally decide to moveto Ghana?
You?

Speaker 1 (14:25):
know I lost a lot in Ghana.
I mean, when you came to myplace, we had microfinance.
A lot of people don't even knowthat this thing happened when
they were collapsingmicrofinance and all that.
In my case, I should have madethe government pay the people
and my name would have beeneverywhere.

(14:45):
But I looked for money and Ipaid every person that were, yes
, that know, working with us youknow, and so it was a serious
issue.
I spent a lot of money and then,also looking at what we've
built here, I saw that it wasnecessary for me to come down to

(15:12):
take care of it myself.
And I didn't know thatGhanaians they love people who
travel than people who have cometo Ghana to build a nation with
them.
They respect people who travel.
So, even Tontoroa you knowanybody that has traveled even
if you go to Dubai, hey, the guyhas traveled.

(15:33):
Why are you not traveling?
Is it because of this or no, myguy, I have enough here.
I went to get a capital tostart something, and I've got
more than a capital.
Why do I still go there?
And let me tell you, there wasthose days.
I mean, anyone in Englandshould start watching this.

(15:54):
If you are in England, BBC SkyNews there is a time they show
African stock exchange, the timethey show African stock
businesses that are thriving inAfrica.
They don't show it in themorning, in the afternoon, in

(16:17):
the evening, In the midnight,from 1, 2, and 3.
And I was always waking up towatch it and I saw that these
people were making money fromthere.
They know that we, as soon asyou come back.
You're sleeping, so thismidnight you are not watching,

(16:39):
Right?
So I said, oh wow, Our diamond,gold, oil, our you know things
they were showing, but in themorning they show you how poor
Africa is.
So I realized that, okay, ifGhana is poor, then I need to
help my people.
I must do something.

(17:01):
But I can tell you there ismoney in Ghana.
The only problem is that wedon't help ourselves.
We don't work together.
We don't help ourselves, wedon't work together.
Whilst Ghana banking system wascollapsing, Nigerian banks are
doing well.
Why?

(17:24):
Why?
If you check businesses thatare doing well in Ghana, all
those businesses, it isCaucasians, the Asians, the
Arabs, they are the ones owningthose businesses.
Or somebody who is a Ghanaianhaving the idea to go and bring

(17:46):
somebody, a white person, tocome and take over.
You know to manage it as a face, Because Ghanaians, we don't
love our own and that's thebiggest problem, you know.
So, for me, I am here to build,I am here to support my nation
and it's going very well, oh no,you've done fantastic.

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(18:29):
So many people speak about youknow diasporas back to ghana, um
to try to help the country youknow build.
What sort of things, though, doyou think people need to have
in place abroad before they eventhink of trying to do business
in ghana or moving back to ghana?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
I will say to any you've, I know, you know what
I'm going to say.
You know I will say toeverybody who wants to build
businesses in Ghana yes, bringthe money, put it in the bank,
come as poor your business, yourmoney is here.

(19:09):
Come as poor, your business,your money is here.
Come as poor.
Learn the poor people how theythink.
Learn the Ghanaians how theythink.
Understand what you really wantto do.
Have the poor mindset, becauseyou need it, you need it.

(19:34):
And then take the europeanmindset out and understand them.
Work with them.
Tell it eat the uh aboboy withthem, eat, eat the akpana with
them.
Eat all that they eat.
Let them see you as you are oneof them, and then the money

(19:57):
start releasing it Little bylittle and you'll be amazed that
it will grow.
And two, know which area you'regoing to start your business,
because you see, when you cometo East Legon and you set up a
business, how people willpatronize is different from

(20:20):
going to Kaswa, and even withinKaswa there are places you will
be and if you are not careful,you will lose all your money.
East Legon, there are placesyou can start your business and
you lose all your money.
So you have to do a thoroughinvestigation and know which

(20:42):
business you are trying to setup, where the people that will
patronize are.
If you go to Kumasi, there is aplace you should be.
You just don't go to anywherebecause you have the money.
Oh, I brought machineries, Ihave brought this, I brought
that, so I'm going to do it.

(21:03):
I am genius.
No, if you come like that, youlook like a fool.
Yes, so you have to relax,although you want to establish
so.
So you have to relax.
Although you want to establishso quick.
You have to relax.
Get to understand.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
But then it leads on to my question, which is you
know, everybody that moves toGhana wants to come and do
business.
But there are some peopleabroad.
They are working nine to fiveand they have all the papers,
they have all the documents tobe able to go into business
abroad.
They're not doing that.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
But then, as soon as they think of Ghana, business is
the first thing they thinkabout.
You see, when it comes toEurope or States, or states or
England, there are gurus, thereare people who are there To come
to the middle class, especiallybeing a black person.
It's not easy.

(22:04):
I remember I mean my place whenyou came there.
There was a white person here,another white person here.
These are Caucasians,caucasians.
What shocked me?
The other white here was fromSouth Africa.
He stayed but still came to meto ask me why are you here?

(22:29):
The other white moved and theygave it to another person.
They wanted to know why.
How did you come to this place?
They called police for almostabout three times before they
stop.
Yes, wow, you see.
But when you come to Ghana, youare here, right, so you become

(22:52):
more comfortable and you feelaccepted until, you see, you
realize that you're actuallydifferent.
You're actually different fromthe people, yes, from the people
.
So basically, that's how it is.
But for me, my advice is thatthere are some things.
We didn't do Research.
We heard things, but weactually did not research deeply

(23:19):
, but we actually did notresearch deeply, and so before
the business needed money, wehad already finished our money.
So if anybody wants to come toGhana to make you know any
business, my advice is spendtime to do your research.
Put the money here, no problem.

(23:42):
Put it in a good bank and thenspend the time, do a search, at
least for a year.
Be here, know how people areand at least if you get two or
three people who think like you,you're good to go.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Should people be thinking of renting a property
when they come to Ghana, or theyshould build before coming to
Ghana?
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Rent is good.
It depends on which businessyou're trying to do.
Rent is good.
I know packaging.
People do packaging.
It's okay, it's part of ourenvironment.
But I would advise Ghana.
When you have a property ismoney.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I remember buying one particular land 280 acres of
land.
Each plot those days was 5,000.
Wow, Now it's going for hundredthousand big cash so you can
imagine yeah, that's 10 yearsago it's going for a hundred

(24:53):
thousand.
And so if I start selling andpeople are buying around and I
say, oh, wow, okay, good, wow,so I mean you will not lose if
you buy land, wherever it is, Imean you get your money.

(25:16):
It's better than even puttingthe money in the bank.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
You know, but I guess some of these things, and
there's a reason why we sit onthis show and we have
conversations like this becausepeople out there can learn from
the experiences that we've beenthrough.
That's why I loved it so muchwhen you said if you're coming
to do business in Ghana, forgetthe business, come to Ghana,
study the people, study theplace.
It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
The most dangerous thing is that somebody in Ghana
telling you Charlie, business,will call Charlie for come.
Charlie, that business.
No, no, you've heard it.
It's okay.
Calm down, don't give yourselfone month, give yourself a year,
steady it, I mean, and enjoyGhana.
Steady it, and you'll beshocked that some business B

(26:06):
will just come and say this isthe gold, go for it.
When I came, that's when Irealized that there are
businesses, there are some petty, petty businesses that nobody
even think about and it willsell just like that.
And you, seeana, also needsevery business in ghana, needs
you there I think you need tosay that again, because that's

(26:30):
the juice.
No, yes, yeah every business inghana.
If you are the owner of thebusiness in ghana, that business
needs you there as soon as youmove.
The business is dead and do nottrust anybody.
If you have any trust to trustanybody, trust them that they

(26:51):
can collapse your business.
That's solid Because it's aserious thing.
So you are not.
You are not having time for thebusiness.
Don't waste your time.
Yep to come and no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
They will just eat your money for you wow, wow, I'm
gonna lead on to my questions.
Okay, but then I've got twoquestions from my previous guest
.
Okay, my young lady asked twoquestions and the first question
is does balance in life trulyexist?
So can a person have abeautiful and happy family,

(27:31):
beautiful job, beautifulrelationships, friends,
everything balanced out?
Does that truly exist?
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't at all.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
It doesn't, it doesn't at all, it doesn't exist
.
Definitely, as the Bible says,if you serve two masters, you
would definitely love one andhate one, you know.
So I mean being a pastor, Ihave lost my marriage, okay,

(28:04):
definitely there may besomething you didn't do right.
There may be some communicationthat didn't go well.
Kids, you may be so busy doingthis whereby they need you in
this place, you know, andsometimes you may not even have
time for yourself because youare so busy doing this whereby

(28:26):
they need you in this place, youknow, and sometimes you may not
even have time for yourselfbecause you are so busy thinking
about others.
So, um, there is no balance.
But my advice is wherever youfind yourself and you know you
are doing the right thing, do itwith all your might and with
all your strength, becausenothing is balanced, but what
you think is good for you, do.
That's very biblical.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Then her next question is how do you look
after yourself, self-care, yourmental health, your overall self
, holistically?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I think when we're coming.
We spoke about something wheremental, when you talk about
mental health, all of us are mad.
I mean so.
But I mean, what do I do?
I mean, you just have to live.
I love to meditate, I love topray, I love to give, I love to

(29:31):
advise, and then I love tolisten to advice as well.
I always want to be aroundpeople who are mentally, uh,
positive.
I I love to listen to youbecause, thank you, I mean the,
the, the, the, the wisdom andthe encouragement within the

(29:53):
words that comes out, it's, it's, can do work.
You know, we, we we're livingin this um world that people
have lost.
You know, um love they havelost.
You know caring.
You know, when somebody isdoing something to you, they
don't care at all and peoplehave become so negative.

(30:13):
But, um, if you really want tolive sane, you have to look for
positivity, always think aboutpositive stuff, you know.
So these are some of the thingsI do.
When it comes to food, I'm verycareful, very particular um my
way of eating.
Um, I love to eat.
I don't, I don't drink any.
I don't drink.

(30:34):
I'm not saying drinking is bad,no, I don't smoke.
I'm not saying I don't smoke,I'm not saying no, I don't smoke
, I don't drink yeah, I don'tdrink, I don't smoke.
Um, I'm not married, you know.
Yes, but I also don't have agirlfriend.
Yes, um, this time I'm tryingto be more careful, right, you

(31:00):
know, to stay, because I needall the mind at this age 40, 46
is a crucial, you know year or aman.
So my focus is I'm thinkingabout my retirement, so I don't
need to fail.
I must be able to do what Ihave to do one for myself, two

(31:23):
for my kids and my children'schildren, so, and then for the
nation.
So my focus is to make sure allmistakes I've made, wrong moves
I've made, this time I can.
If I can rectify some of them,I can fix one or two.
So I can, I can move.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
It's, it's one of the things I'm trying to do, wow
wow, that was that, was that haddepth, our question from
connected minds.
Well, for me, derrick, ismotivation or discipline
motivation, okay, motivation,motivation.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I mean everybody needs somebody that will
motivate him or her, especiallymen.
Men we need motivation becausewe're not strong.
Motivation is for weak people,we are weak yes you know it's,
it's it's for us to be motivatedto do.

(32:25):
Sometimes, you know, your mindtells you that it's, it's
impossible.
And somebody somewhere says I'mwatching you, you are great,
you are powerful you, and thatenergize most of us to do more.
I remember I met one young lady, young lady, and she walked,

(32:46):
you know close to me and said tome, pastor Danso.
I said yes.
He said you know what?
You've been my father all theseyears?
I said huh.
He said yes, I was thinking.
And then he said yes, I wasthinking if I could collaborate
with him, he would be with me,right?
And then he said, no, I havebeen watching your videos and

(33:06):
the things you've said about me.
You said, in general, it's whatI have followed.
And today I'm a midwife, yes,and she was going to get married
.
And she says I want you to bemy father, to work with me.
Wow, yes, we will be doing it.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Um next year.
Okay, no, no this month?

Speaker 1 (33:29):
may yes, next month we are in april, so may yes, wow
, you know.
So these things encourages someof us to say keep on doing what
you can do to help mankind.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
So I would always take that as the most important
things in our life encouragementthen my next question is what's
the best advice you everreceived out of the many?
You have?

Speaker 1 (34:01):
people will talk of you.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Whether you like it or not.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Even if you're dead, people will talk of you.
You should know and you shouldunderstand that what they say
does not define you.
Truth has no evidence.
Facts has evidence, but whatstands is truth.

(34:30):
Let people bring their facts toshow evidence, to show that,
yes, you are bad, but you arethe only person who knows you
are not bad but you're good.
And those who are lying knowsthey are lying and the one who
is telling the truth knows he'stelling the truth.

(34:51):
So always live within the truth, and I tell you that advice
from my mother.
This was coming from my mother.
It was even a poem.
He said people will talk of you.
When you see this, Remember me.
He said bear me in your mind.
The whole world will stand totalk of you.

(35:16):
I was a baby and my mom gave methis and it has been one of the
things that has encouraged meso many times.
When I see people bashing me,saying evil things about me
sometimes some of the thingswhen you say to yourself huh, oh
, I did this.

(35:36):
Okay, Some you feel like youwant to believe it.
Yeah, they say things andsometimes you are not careful.
You end up becoming what theysay you are, but you should know
people will talk of you, nomatter what they will talk of
you.
So do what is necessary andleave the rest to God.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Wow, leave it to God.
Indeed, what's your favoritepersonal development book?
I think when we're goingthrough this, you had a very
interesting personal developmentbook.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
I have.
I mean, I'll say Bible, yes,yes, bible has a lot of books
within, so that is what I'll say.
And then I have revealing theheroes.
It's a very powerful book whichI wrote, and it's my own book,

(36:33):
not because I want to be biased.
Right, it was about David andhis mighty men.
You know, when God said Davidis a king and he was anointed by
Samuel, he was still not a king.
But even killed Goliath, he wasstill not a king.

(36:53):
Until these five strong men,they said we will fight with you
.
They were stronger than David.
They were powerful than David.
They were powerful than David,but they said there's an
anointing in your life and wewill make sure it comes to pass.
And everybody in this world, youneed such people.
You need one or two.
If you get two, thank God.

(37:16):
It means you are blessed thatthey say we will never make you
fail.
We will always be with you Inthe time of your sorrow, in the
time of your strength, in anytime, all times, and good times,
bad times they are there andsay we will make you.
You know God can bless you, butfor your blessing to come into

(37:40):
reality, it comes from man.
So you need men that can revealyou as a hero.
Yes, very important that'ssolid.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Now I'll take a question.
Okay for my next guest.
Okay from you, alright is loveone way or two okay, I mean okay

(38:15):
, right, I'll leave the answerto this question to the next
guest, but if you've beenlistening, please subscribe and
become part of the ConnectedMinds family and I'm going to
take anything that you wouldlike to tell the people of
Connected Minds, the audience.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
I would say to anybody who is watching me that
you don't need to believe inyourself, because we're not
wired like that.
Believe in something.
Believe in God, because if youwaste time to believe in

(38:58):
yourself, it will be just atime-wasting.
But if you know you don tobelieve in yourself, it will be
just a time-wasting.
But if you know you don'tbelieve in yourself but you
believe in something, you canlive very long, because the more
you try to believe in yourself,you become arrogant.
Yes, majority of people.
Yes, somebody will say, oh, butpersons have confidence.

(39:19):
Yes, of course Confidencedoesn't make oh, but person have
confidence.
Yes, of course Confidencedoesn't make you to be a person
who believe in yourself.
And if you say you believe, itsimply means you do not know,
you are not sure.
So believe causes you not to besure of who you are, but leave
belief to something that's existwow, that was very biblical

(39:47):
once again, but that is expectedright now.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Thank you so much.
You're welcome and, um, I'mreally honored that you came
today I'm so happy, um, that youblessed us with all of this
knowledge and at a higher levelwisdom, because these are things
that you've been through,things that you've experienced
yourself firsthand.
I appreciate your time, Iappreciate your effort and
traveling all the way here.
Thank you, stay connected, guys.
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