Exploring Crystals, Astral Reiki and Human Design with Scarlett Seebach

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A crystal can be beautiful, but what happens when you treat it like a being with a history—and cleanse it like you mean it? That’s where our conversation with Scarlett Siba starts and never really stops: with respect for energy, for the body, and for the quiet signals that guide real change. We trade stories about first crystal hauls, overactive grids that turned bedrooms into humming engines, and the simple rituals—smoke, water, moonlight, breath—that turn a rock into a partner and a room into a sanctuary.

Scarlett opens up about astral Reiki and why “distance” can feel startlingly intimate. She describes leaving with intention, working through the light body, and returning clients to themselves when life scatters their attention and pulls chakras out of coherence. We talk openly about protection—how to ask, how to feel it—and why the astral isn’t a theme park. Ground first, then go. If you’ve ever woken up exhausted from dreams that felt like a second shift, you’ll find practical ways to set boundaries for the night and re-enter the morning with more of you intact.

The episode crescendos with a live Human Design read: sacral manifesting generator, 3/5 profile, defined splenic intuition, and the resource allocation channel that mirrors a purpose of connecting people to what they need. We reframe “martyr” as Explorer and “heretic” as Fixer, naming projections without carrying them home. We also confront the soft tyrant of the undefined Heart—the “shoulds” that turn worth into work—and practice listening for a gut-led yes or no before the mind starts negotiating.

If you’re curious about crystals, energy healing, or Human Design—and you want grounded language, not fluff—you’ll feel at home here. Tap play, then tell us what resonated most and what you’ll try next. And if this conversation supported you, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review so more curious minds can find their way to the work.

Thank you for joining me today. Please know that this podcast and the information shared is not to replace or supplement any mental health or personal wellness modalities provided by practitioners. It’s simply me, sharing my personal experiences and I appreciate you respecting and honoring my story and my guests. If something touched your heart please feel free to like, share and subscribe. Have a beautiful day full of gratitude, compassion and unconditional love.

Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
What's up, you guys?
Welcome to this episode ofCrystal Clear.
We have a special guest whotraveled to be here today.
So I'm super excited.
We have a retreat this weekend.
Um, Scarlett Siba fromKnoxville, Tennessee.
Correct?
Yes.
Um, she is founder of YourAbundant Design, which is a
go-to spot for all kinds ofbeautiful, magical things that

(00:24):
we will get into on today'sepisode.
So thank you so much for beinghere, Scarlett.
Thank you so much for having me.
Of course.
So tell us a little bit aboutyou.
I mean, okay, so I'll I'll kindof talk about our introduction.
So we connected via email andhad a little Zoom call.
And literally popping it up aswe were doing our Zoom, I'm

(00:44):
like, do you would just want tocome to Sarasota to do a
retreat?
Before I even knew what she did,what she was about.
I just like, you know, but wouldyou get those downloads?
I'm like, you gotta flow withthat.
Yeah.
And here we are.
I mean, that was what, a monthago?
Give or take, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (00:58):
Yeah.
It was really quick.
Um, so welcome.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02):
Thank you.
I think it's just one of thosefun, impulsive, whimsical
decisions that has just workedout beautifully.
So um grateful that you took theopportunity to travel to
Sarasota and um come.
And I'm super excited.
We have a retreat coming up withall kinds of beautiful

(01:22):
opportunities.
But tell us a little bit aboutyou.
Tell us about your abundantdesign.
What do you offer?
What do you kind of like?
Where has your journey led you?
And um yeah, let's just startthere.

SPEAKER_05 (01:36):
Okay.
Um, so it's called your abundantdesign because the first thing
that I really got into was humandesign.
And uh in human design, I am afive-one emotional manifestor.
And so that's where I started.
And I started with blending umhuman design with um like

(01:57):
financial counseling, which wassuper fun.
But I I don't do a whole lot ofit anymore.
I still do a lot of human designreadings and I absolutely love
it.
Um, and then I realized that Iwas very much limiting myself
with just human design becauseas a manifester, we kind of like

(02:18):
to have our hands in a lot ofdifferent pots.
And so I branched off intocrystals and um Reiki and do
this uh really specialized formof Reiki called astral Reiki,
um, where I actually astralproject over to wherever my
client is and run Reiki throughmy light body instead of my

(02:41):
physical body.
So it tends to be a little bitmore potent.

SPEAKER_03 (02:44):
So I love that.
And I got to have theopportunity experience
yesterday.
Yes.
And I'm wearing my green todayto keep my heart chakra from
being jelly.
But if and I'm totally open toit, let's share that experience.
So I've done several energyhealings and Reiki sessions and
also like Reiki 2 certified.

(03:07):
And so I've done a lot ofdifferent energy work and I love
it because I always go in and Ijust try to be super open to
whatever that particularpractitioner offers because
every you every person isunique.
There's no two people that dothe same energy work, there's no
two sessions that are ever thesame, even if you see the same
person all the time.

(03:27):
So from my perspective, we werein our guest house where we're
doing our retreat.
I just kind of laid back.
I went into like a meditativestate, um, which was really nice
because I just left a big event.
We had our annual awards umcelebration at my corporate job.
And um, you know, so a lot ofpeople, a lot of interactions

(03:48):
and things like that.
Went home, let the dog out, gota little bit of sunshine, took
my shoes off, walked bare feetjust to ground myself a bit.
But that's kind of how I wentinto this session.
And other than, you know, justkind of giving you a brief of I
feel like I'm all over theplace.
That's all you really knew goinginto it about me.

SPEAKER_05 (04:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (04:07):
Um, so yeah, from your perspective, tell me about
kind of what or share with uswhat kind of came up, what what
you found in that session, ifyou remember it, because I find
this too.
If I do energy work, sometimes Ilose it.

SPEAKER_05 (04:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (04:24):
So if you lost it, that's totally fine.

SPEAKER_05 (04:27):
I I remember some.
Yeah.
Um, and so the thing that like Ireally noticed with you is how
scattered everything was, whichyou know, you said you felt like
you were all over the place andyou were.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (04:41):
All the little different versions of me.

SPEAKER_05 (04:44):
Yes.
And there were many that werejust like scattered to the four
winds.
And so, like, one of the thingsthat I really focused on was
bringing you back into yourself.
And your chakras were actuallyreally spread out as well.
So it was just focused onbringing you back in, bringing

(05:05):
your chakras back into your bodywhere they go.
Um, and the fascinating thingabout yours was how watery
everything was.
And especially around your heartchakra.
That was that was what you werereferring to with the jelly,
because it did like theconsistency of your heart chakra

(05:25):
kind of reminded me of jelly.
Um, so like focusing on reallyletting the water out of your
heart chakra and resolidifyingeverything so it acted more like
a chakra and less like asandwich.
Right.
Um so um that was those were thebig things that I really saw
there.

SPEAKER_03 (05:44):
So that's interesting because I feel like
I've been in this state and I'vementioned in a previous podcast.
Like I have been all over theplace.
Like it's been, you know, havemy different buckets.
I have felt really great sinceour session.
I wanted to ask because I wentin with intention, like I told
you, of just coming back to me,coming back inward.

(06:06):
Um, because when I get spreadtoo thin and there all the
buckets are open and halfway in,and you know, it's just it's too
much.
So reeling it all back in, and Ireally had this like mantra of
just go with the flow.
Just flow through, just flowthrough.
Well, apparently I turnedeverything into water.

(06:28):
So I'm like, well, that, youknow, I mean, you can really
manifest the water.
You absolutely can.
I was flooding, apparently.
A little.
Yes.
So that's awesome.
So tell us kind of so we havethis retreat coming up, and
you're offering a crystalworkshop, which I think is
wonderful because, likeyourself, I love the crystals.

(06:49):
I really dove deep when Istarted understanding more of
this like spiritual realm andenergy work.
And I always felt drawn to them,even from like very, very young
age, like drawn to crystals orrocks or just anything in
nature, really.
I felt that it was healing, evenlike trees when I was little,
like the whole phrase like treehugger.
Like I totally was a treehugger.
Like I could feel almost thevibration of the trees.

(07:12):
I I climb trees all the time.
But anyway, when I startedgetting into all of this, I
really dove deep into crystals.
And there's this place that ohmshop.
I don't know if you've had toget it.

SPEAKER_05 (07:22):
Yeah, we're going tomorrow.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (07:24):
Super excited.
Tell them you're my friend thatwe're doing the retreat
together.
They will just treat you like aqueen.
They're the best.
Um anyway, I'll go and I'll justpick a bunch, a ton of stuff
out.
And they're great because theygive you the card that tells you
like what the crystal is, whatchakra it's you know, kind of
helps, like what it helps you,what it can help balance, what

(07:47):
it can help support, all thethings.
And every single time I would goand just do like a haul, and
they always laugh when I come inbecause they're like, here she
comes.
I just I I I feel drawn to whatI it's always something I need.
Always.
So then I started like divingdeeper into understanding like
the properties.
And so yeah, I'm excited we'redoing that crystal workshop

(08:08):
because you knew you acquirethem, but it's like, you know,
how do you cleanse them?
How do you charge them?
How do you how do you use them?
Right.
Um, you know, I feel like I'vekind of lost sight of carrying
with me all the time.
I used to keep them in my bra.
I used to keep them like in mypurse, in my pockets.
And I feel like I've kind ofgotten away from that.
So maybe I need to bring thatback a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 (08:28):
Oh man, I feel really naked right now because
I'm not wearing any.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (08:32):
Well, I have one on my wrist.

SPEAKER_05 (08:34):
Like they're all in the car.

unknown (08:36):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (08:37):
The car is really, really safe right now.
The car is very safe.
Yeah.
So for our guests, kind ofexplain that a little bit.
Like if you were to explain likethe symbol the symbolic
properties of the crystals, likehow to use them, um, you know,
when to use them, when to chargethem, when to cleanse them.

(08:58):
Let's kind of chat about thatfirst.
And then we'll get into somemore of the energy work, if
that's okay.
Yeah.
I think that's a big hot topic.
It's like everyone's drawn tothem because they're beautiful.

unknown (09:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (09:08):
What do we do with them?

SPEAKER_05 (09:10):
Well, you know, I tend to think that the first
thing that you need to do with acrystal is learn how to
empathize with it.
Um, so, like, my very firstcrystal, which I actually
brought with me for this class.

SPEAKER_02 (09:22):
Oh, I love it.

SPEAKER_05 (09:23):
Is how I'm starting the class.
So you're gonna get a sneak peekinto the class right now.
So my very first crystal was uma clear quartz.
It was just this tiny littlenecklace thing that I got for, I
don't know, three dollars in afour-pack.
And I got it and I put it on andI was thinking, oh, this will
amplify my energy.
I'll get more energy becausemanifestors, we always want more

(09:46):
energy.
We don't get to have it most ofthe time, but we want it.
And um, so I put this on andthinking, yeah, I'm gonna
amplify my energy.
And I wore it for about a week.
And by the time that week wasup, I felt like I was coming out
of my skin.

(10:06):
I was so emotional, and I'mfairly certain I was going
insane.

unknown (10:11):
Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_05 (10:13):
And that's when I found out that you can buy cheap
crystals and they will mess withyou.

SPEAKER_02 (10:17):
Well, I was wondering, I was like, okay, the
four-pack, where'd you get it?
Was it real?
Was it I mean, it's clearquartz.

SPEAKER_05 (10:24):
It was, it was real because that's cheap.
But um it's it's so important tocheck and make sure.

SPEAKER_03 (10:32):
You didn't know to cleanse it when you got it.

SPEAKER_05 (10:33):
I didn't cleanse it.

SPEAKER_03 (10:35):
And so you had everyone's energy that I totally
did.
That's kind of in it.

SPEAKER_05 (10:40):
Exactly.
And you know, I mean, if youthink about it, it makes total
sense.
Right.
Because if you look at it fromthe crystals perspective, you
know, clear quartz, it's allabout the amplification of
energy.
Like it'll it'll do pretty muchanything you want it to do.
It's uh it's pretty great.
Like that.
It's a really great startercrystal.
It is really a great startercrystal if you cleanse it.

unknown (11:00):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (11:01):
That's important, as it turns out.
Um, but you know, you thinkabout how a crystal starts out.
It's growing usually in a caveof some sort, in a community
with all of these othercrystals.
And then randomly, somebodycomes through with a pickaxe and
chops it away from its family.
It's hugely traumatic.

(11:23):
And then they cart it off to dogod knows what with it.
And they're like forming it.
They're sometimes they stick itin a tumbler so it's crashing
against other crystals all thetime for weeks on end.
And so, like all of that isreally, really traumatic.
And that's not even counting thenumber of people who have
touched that crystal before iteven makes its way to you.

(11:45):
So, really empathizing withthat, really understanding why
you need to cleanse yourcrystal, I feel like is a good
first step for anybody beforeyou even get to the cleansing
part.
It's like really understanding.

SPEAKER_03 (11:58):
That reminds me we should do that to our bundles.
We should sage them before theYes.
Yes.
That's a good idea.
That'll probably be the easiestway in for time's sake.
For time's sake, for time'ssake, yeah.
Yeah, we can do a little Yes.
Yeah, I even have some moonwater.
We can put them in or somethingor toss them in if we need to.
But uh solid.
Yeah, that just just thinkingabout that leading up to our

(12:19):
retreat.
I'm like, okay, so we have allthese new ones.
Here we are.
It's good.
See, everything happens for areason.
So that's awesome.
Okay.
I do um feel you on that.
So it's interesting because whenyou were talking came up, I
remember my first.
I mean, I've been collectingcrystals since I was very young.
I wish I remembered my first,but I, you know, we would go to
California when I was little andyou know, the gift shops, like,

(12:42):
you know, really cool likepieces from the mountain or from
Colorado.
My grandbrother would go huntingevery year and always bring me
back this really cool turquoiseand different crystals and stuff
like that.
So I wish I knew my first onebecause that would be really
special.
But I remember when I firststarted diving super deep into
this kind of spiritual path, butI also simultaneously healing
from PTSE and trauma.

(13:04):
So I go to this place calledHidden Gym in Gulfgate.
It's beautiful.
There's another one in therecalled Wild Ginger.
I'll send you all the things.
You guys can go like crystalshopping tomorrow.
Like be like um hopper.
And they're all pretty closetogether too.
So anyway, I go in and the guythat owns the place, he's
amazing.
He's super nice.
He's like into his stuff, right?

(13:26):
And I'm like, okay, this is allway over my head.
I'm not understanding it.
So I kind of just like feltpulled to tell him what was
going on.
And he's like, okay, let'screate a grid for you for what
you have going on.
I'm like, all right, let's doit.
So we, you know, I kind of kindof did what I do now, but with
his guidance on like what feelsright from what he suggested and

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whatnot.
So I get home, I create thisgrid, not really having, you
know, he he kind of gave me someinformation on how to do it.
I just kind of intuitively didit, right?
Yeah.
And I put it, it was in ourbedroom, my husband and I's
bedroom.
I did not sleep.

(14:08):
I was like mega, like Iliterally felt like I was
somewhere else.
And I'm like, oh my God.
And I'm a good sleeper.
Like I am usually like a 10 to 6a.m.
I am out.
Don't wake up.
I mean, occasionally I'll wakeup to go to the restroom, but
usually not until almost whenit's time to get up anyway.

(14:28):
But so I am like a hardcoresleeper, not that night.
I was like different level.
I just I felt, I felt the energyaround me.
Like I felt like it was almostlike it the whole room was
vibrating.
And it didn't occur to me at thetime that that's why.
So like two days later, and Iremember walking into my bedroom

(14:55):
and just kind of like being likethat's what's it's like it's
still like beaming, like you canjust feel like it had this whole
energy field around the crystalgrid.
Oh yeah.
And I'm like, okay, I'm open tomost things.
I'm not ever one to be like, ohthat that's crazy, or that's you
know, I'm hey, you if you haveexperience with it, that's

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awesome.
You know, I'm not one to everdiscount anything, right?
So I'm like, okay, there'ssomething to all of this.
I don't know what it is.
And so after that is when I gotreally intrigued.
But that was kind of my firstintense, like crystal
experience.
But then just knowing um, youknow, definitely use them for

(15:37):
emotional support so much.
Um, a lot of lapis for, youknow, throat shock.
I mean, I and now I know, andit's fun because my my kids love
them too.
So it's really special.
And um, I don't know, it's justit's just something fun.
Plus, my name's Crystal, so it'skind of fun.
I feel like that's that's kindof on purpose.
Um so yeah, just had to plugthat in there because it popped

(16:00):
up and I haven't thought aboutthat forever.
And I was like, gosh, I forgethow intense that really was.
Yeah.
And I still have the grid.
I don't I all the crystals areall over the place now, but I'm
like, I still cut the littlegrid.
And um, so yeah, that was myfirst super intense crystal
movie.
That's amazing.
Yeah, it was fun.
Kind of at the time.
I mean, I think I probably hadto catch them on sleep for a

(16:22):
couple days, but so beyond thecrystals, the energy work that
you do.
And I think there is somethingsuper magical and special about
someone sharing their space withsomeone to do that.
And I know you said most ofyours is is virtual.

(16:42):
Yes, usually it's over Zoom,yeah.
Right.
But I have I've had both.
And I feel like as long asyou're connecting with the
practitioner, that is whatmatters.
And you you can hold youunderstand that they are you can
feel it.
You know, you I I can feel it,but I don't know.

(17:03):
Just finding the right person isimportant.
Yeah, but just go with yourintuition if you're looking for
an on-time online practitioneror someone in person, you'll
know the energy and the vibe isright.
And I definitely apparently withyou, we just hit off from the
beginning.
Maybe we've been friends in adifferent lifetime.
But I was just like, okay, youwant to come to my house and
just sure my property?

(17:25):
My husband's like, who's comingand what?
You know, like don't worry,she's great.

SPEAKER_02 (17:30):
I'm sure she has crystal, are you sure?
Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_05 (17:34):
Yeah you are so in tune with your sacral intuition.
It's insane.
I love it.

SPEAKER_03 (17:41):
So tell us about the energy work.
How did you get into that?
When was your first experiencewith that?

SPEAKER_05 (17:49):
Um, well, if we're talking receiving, then um that
was several years ago at thispoint.
It was actually shortly beforeCOVID.
So I think it was like Februaryof 2020.
Okay.
Give or take.

SPEAKER_01 (18:03):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (18:04):
And um, I saw, you know, my Reiki master for the
first time.
And I really I didn't feel a lotbecause I have CPTSD too.
And, you know, we get closed offlots and lots of walls and all
the things.
And but it was reallyinteresting because in my very
first session, she uh called inuh a neighbor of mine who had

(18:32):
died a while ago.
And she was the closest thingthat I really had to someone who
cared for me in the way caringnurture.
Yeah, like really nurtured me.
And um, like I just sat thereand I cried and I cried and I
cried.
And honestly, it wasembarrassing just how much came

(18:55):
out.
And uh so then, you know, I wasembarrassed because I was very
much in my masculine back thenand just like cut off all
contact with this person forlike nine months.
And I didn't go back until Iguess that wasn't nine months.
I I can't do math right now, butit was like September or
something.

SPEAKER_03 (19:13):
I I have no concept of time.
Yeah, I said a couple weeks agoand it's been like two years
ago.

SPEAKER_05 (19:17):
So you know, yeah, and it's like time doesn't
matter anymore, it's not real.

SPEAKER_03 (19:21):
It's an illusion.

SPEAKER_05 (19:22):
Exactly.
It totally is.
Oh man, did I feel it today?
Um so I went back in Septemberand then um I didn't ball my
eyes out.
That was nice.
And I felt such a reduction inmy pain because that was the
main reason I was seeing her, isI have fibromyalgia and an

(19:43):
inflammatory disorder and stuff.
And so she really helped reducemy pain in a really serious kind
of way.
So I started seeing her once aweek, and I think I saw her once
a week for like two years.
Um and at around the two-yearmark, I decided to get my Reiki
one certification.

(20:04):
Actually, at her behest, uh, shewas rather insistent about the
whole thing.
They can tell.
Um and that was relativelyuneventful.
But then um actually the firsttime that I tried to do distance
Reiki when I was doing my ReikiII certification, um it was when

(20:27):
I discovered that I could do thewhole astral Reiki thing.
And so doing Reiki through myastral body instead of my
physical body.
Um, because I still haven'tquite figured out how to do it
through the physical body, ifI'm perfectly honest.
Really?
Uh no, I mean, like, don't getme wrong, I can I can do Reiki
through my physical body, butlike to do the distance part, I

(20:48):
find it so much more efficientto just leave and go over there.

SPEAKER_03 (20:53):
That's really interesting.

SPEAKER_05 (20:55):
Um I I just think it's stronger, it's more
efficient, and I can play withmore things that way.
For you too.

SPEAKER_03 (21:02):
So thinking of like, you know, you mentioned the PTSE
too, totally understand.
But that's like it's safer foryou to use the remote version.
So it keeps you protected.

SPEAKER_05 (21:16):
Maybe I don't know.
I've never really thought of itas particularly safe.
Partially because of the workthat I do there, like I have
taken on some damage in inworking with some of the things
that I I work to get rid of.
Yeah, it's like sometimes theyfight back.
So um, maybe it is though.

(21:38):
Um yeah, maybe it is.
Yeah, that's fair.
Could be.
In any case, it's veryeffective.

SPEAKER_03 (21:45):
Yeah, well, inconvenient.

SPEAKER_05 (21:47):
And very convenient.

SPEAKER_03 (21:49):
I'm like, if anything, you're not like me.
You don't live in your cardriving around all the place.
So you can do it from home, youcan do it from wherever.

SPEAKER_05 (21:56):
Right.
And Knoxville is not a superhotbed for spirituality.
You know, there's not a lot ofpeople who are into that kind of
thing in Knoxville where I live.

SPEAKER_03 (22:07):
Well, welcome to Sarasota.

SPEAKER_05 (22:09):
Yes, the vibe is so different here.

SPEAKER_03 (22:12):
So awesome.
We have all the things.

SPEAKER_02 (22:15):
You really do.
We really do.
It's a really cool spot.

SPEAKER_05 (22:18):
Yeah.
Like I could probably open doorshere and oh yeah, like I would
totally have to.
I wish you were here longer.

SPEAKER_03 (22:24):
I can't.
Well, you'll just have to comeback.
I have a whole list of peoplethat you have to meet and see
and collaborate with and all thethings.
Yeah.
That's gonna be so much fun.
Yeah.
Yes.
I'm into it.
Awesome.
So tell us about the astralpart.
Like, what does that mean?
I mean, I understand what it is,but to you know, someone who's
never listened to this before,understood what this is, kind of

(22:46):
explain what that means, what itfeels like, what it means, um,
kind of what the process is.

SPEAKER_05 (22:52):
Okay.
Uh so astral projection is isthe part that we're talking
about, I assume, right?
Okay.
So that's uh a fairly simplisticprocess of leaving your body,
like your soul or yourconsciousness leaving your body
and going somewhere else.
Um, so uh some people call itremote viewing.
It's very similar, um, thoughthere are slight differences,

(23:16):
but we do it every night when wego to sleep.
Um so it's it's a process thateverybody partakes in every day,
just about.
Um we just call it dreaming.
We just call it dreaming.
And I think I think there isstill some dreams that we have
that's very clearly just yourbrain cleaning itself.

SPEAKER_01 (23:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (23:37):
Um, but then there are others that are very
obviously you leaving your bodyand going and hanging out
somewhere else.

SPEAKER_03 (23:44):
I literally thought my girlfriend Nicole was running
through my freaking house onenight.
Like literally.
Like I she probably was.
She was running through myhouse.
And then we had a conversation.
I think it was the next day, andshe was like, I had this weird
experience then.
Like, and I'm like, oh my God,you really were running through
my freaking house.

(24:05):
She's like, my so I have thislike trio, and we're like our
group chat's magic.
So we're like our all of ourlittle, all of our woo-woo stuff
we appreciate and do together.
Um, but yeah, we still laughabout that sometimes.
I uh it's interesting becausesometimes I wake up and I'm
exhausted.
I'm like, I don't know where Iwent, I don't know what I did,

(24:26):
but I'm so tired from whateverwas going on.
Like, and so I've had to reallyum, you know, how we when little
kids, like how little kids willsay their prayers, or people do
different rituals at nightbefore bed.
So when tonight, or like nowbefore bed, sometimes like to
myself, I'll just do like alittle like internal meditation,

(24:49):
like almost like, you know, I'mjust I'm grounding you in this
space.
I'm giving you permission torest, your mind, your body, your
soul.
Like you need to, you know.
Honestly, I feel like if I don'tgive myself that internal
permission to rest, I'm all overthe place.
I don't necessarily recall it,but I just can tell when I wake

(25:10):
up.

unknown (25:11):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (25:11):
Because like I said, I'm a sound sleep, but there's
no reason for me to wake uptired.

SPEAKER_05 (25:14):
There's a lot of work to do in the astral realm.

SPEAKER_03 (25:18):
So it's interesting that you say remote viewing
because my husband did apodcast.
He has a Matt Bell Limitlesspodcast, and he did a podcast
with this guy that was hired todo remote viewing for the CIA.
Um, and it was interestingbecause I went to dinner with
them and the way he wasexplaining it, he was like,
Well, I don't know, it's been solong now, but the way he was

(25:41):
explaining it was like he couldonly do it for them or
something.
And I'm like, but why?
Like you, if you can do it, youcan do it.
Right.
So I was kind of confused bythat.
So tell us like what is thedifference?
What are kind of ways that likepeople can do it on their own
intentionally?
Like, how do you get intointentionally doing it?

SPEAKER_05 (26:04):
So um, intentionally doing it.
That's an interesting uh, youknow, for so long I did it on
accident too.
It's you know, part of CPSD man,that's a hard thing to say.
C T S D.
Thank you.
CPTSD.
Yeah, CPTSD.
Yeah.
Um, is you tend to disassociate.
And so what you're doing is likeyou're half astral projecting.

(26:25):
And so like your soul is justlike hanging out up here
somewhere, and you're down here.
And so you tend to look atthings from a higher
perspective, like literally.

SPEAKER_03 (26:33):
Um it's really interesting.
I never thought of it that way,but it makes a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_05 (26:37):
Yeah.
So a big part of my journey wasactually getting back into my
body and and like reallyfiguring out how to not astral
project all the time.

SPEAKER_03 (26:46):
Yeah, that too.
And it's not even like you don'teven put a name on that, but
it's like getting into your bodyby feeling what's in your body.
Yeah.
And not being afraid to feel it.
Because if you don't feel it,yeah, then you can't release it
and you can't let it go.
Right.
Have you ever read the book BodyKeeps Score?

SPEAKER_05 (26:59):
I have not, but I have had it suggested to me, I
don't know, like a lot.
And I should really listen atsome point.
Yeah.
Um, manifest or we're not greatat that.
Um, but it's one of those, ifyou can actually get yourself
into your body, it's a whole loteasier to get yourself out of it
on purpose.
So it helps to be super groundedand super centered and super in

(27:22):
here.
And then literally, if you wantto go somewhere else, all you
have to do is let go.

SPEAKER_03 (27:30):
Right.
And I think that's what 99.99999of people have a fear about.
And that fear is like I wouldeven say that they can't, but
it's almost like, what is that?
Or what does that even mean?
You know, what does it mean tolet go?

SPEAKER_05 (27:48):
Fair.
And that fear is actually notunwarranted.
Like the astral realms are notsafe.
Like there are a lot of peoplewho say they are 100% safe, or
uh, the other people who saythey're 100% demonic.
Neither one is true.
Um, it's about as safe as thedrive.

SPEAKER_03 (28:05):
There's light energy, there's dark energy,
just like here.
There's exactly conscious peopleand they're unconscious, there's
ego, and then there are peopleliving their authentic true
self.
You know, it's it's the sameconcept.
It's just in a you can't see it.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (28:20):
So, like if you're not coming at your astral
projection journey from like areally intentional and really
high vibrational place, um, andsometimes even if you are um one
asking for protection too.

SPEAKER_03 (28:34):
Exactly.
Like I'm doing, I would like toleave and travel like with all
love and light.
Please guide me and protect me.
And just like you would call inyour guides, exactly, and you
know, to protect you and supportyour angels or whatever it is
you believe in.
Like this isn't just like aspiritual practice.
I think that what we're talkingabout, um, many other cultures

(28:56):
do it in a different form.

SPEAKER_05 (28:58):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (28:58):
You know, so it's like some people it's praying,
some people it, you know, it'sjust it's just different.

SPEAKER_05 (29:03):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (29:04):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (29:04):
And I think that's the step that most people miss
is the calling in of protection.
Right.
Because we know on like avisceral day uh on a visceral
level that what we're about todo might be dangerous.
Right.
And so of course we stay in.

SPEAKER_01 (29:17):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (29:18):
You know, like it makes total sense to not want to
leave.
But if you actually do call inthat protection and if you let
that protection hold you, itsuddenly gets roughly a million
times easier to actually let go.

SPEAKER_01 (29:31):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (29:32):
I love that.

SPEAKER_03 (29:33):
I'm so excited for this retreat.
I'm so excited.
I'm so excited because I knowthe people coming and I know
some people they're very in tunewith all of this, and others are
brand new.
So I'm really interested to dothat.
We'll have to do a little surveyafterwards to see how people
because I think it's veryeye-opening and it can be very
freeing.
And if anything, if anyone takesanything from this, it's not

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even, you know, about leavingyour body necessarily.
It's more about learning to letgo.
Right.
And trusting that process.
And that could, I mean, we couldget into a whole four hour
conversation on that.

SPEAKER_05 (30:07):
Yeah.
I do wonder if like the peoplewho have trouble sleeping are
the same people who would havetrouble astral projection
projecting because it's asimilar letting go.
Might be the resistance.

SPEAKER_03 (30:18):
Yeah, it's a resistance to cutting off the
monkey mind stuff, allowing thatto, and of course, there's stuff
out there that affects yoursleep.
But I, you know, I think that itbut you know, I think it all
kind of correlates.
Like if you're doing things likealcohol, for example, affects
your sleep.
So it's like if because it shutsoff that level of consciousness,
and it lowers your vibration.

(30:39):
Exactly.
It's like, well, anyway.

SPEAKER_05 (30:41):
And so it makes you more susceptible to the dark
energy.

SPEAKER_03 (30:46):
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's why, you know, thefights, the domestic violence,
like all of that stuff.
Like, yeah, it's reallyinteresting how how different
things out there, modalities,you know, like there's more
things like psilocybin and stufflike that are a very different
vibration.

SPEAKER_05 (31:02):
They are.

SPEAKER_03 (31:03):
Um yeah.
So anyway, again, that's a wholeother conversation.
So which is really cool.
I really need to get someone inon that one.
Um, so yeah, tell us a littlebit more about like, so how long
have you been doing this?

SPEAKER_05 (31:19):
About five years.
Okay.
Give or take.
I've been doing it like inbusiness for a couple.
Okay.
Um, before that, it was just alot.

SPEAKER_03 (31:28):
Yeah.
So yeah.
So if people want to find you,if they want to um, you know, do
sessions.
I know I'm gonna have a ton ofgirlfriends that are like, oh my
god, I have to see, I have tosee her.
Especially remote is so easy.
Yes.
And it's and she's legit.
It's awesome.
I am vouching for it and youknow how I am about this stuff,
you guys.
Um, so yeah, and what otherthings do you offer?

(31:50):
Like, what is your how are youexpanding your practice and your
energy and just kind of where doyou see this going for you?
Where is it and where do you seeit kind of going for you?

SPEAKER_05 (32:00):
Okay, so right this minute, um, I have astral Reiki
sessions that you can get.
And I do crystal consultationsalso, um, which is super fun.
Like I really love gettingpeople like in a Zoom to really
hash out, you know, how are youcleansing?
How are you charging?
How are you activating?
What is your relationship like?
It's so much fun.

(32:22):
And, you know, then sometimes weget more advanced students who
want to talk about grids, andthat's super fun.
It's really exciting.
But I also offer human designreadings.
Oh, yes, love human designreadings.
Oh, I should have brought mine.
Oh, you know, I have yours on myphone.
Um, I don't know where my phoneis, but I have it on my phone

(32:42):
too.
I know that you are a three-fivesacral manifesting generator.
Yes.
And that is what I rememberabout your chart.
Yes.
Um, so tell us what does thatmean?
Okay.
Um, so mangens, as I like tocall them, because manifesting
generator is like a mouthful.

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Um, you guys tend to have like alot of energy.

SPEAKER_01 (33:05):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (33:06):
Spot on.
And uh it tends to be going inmultiple directions.

SPEAKER_01 (33:11):
Also spot on.

SPEAKER_05 (33:12):
At the same time.

SPEAKER_01 (33:13):
Also spot on.

SPEAKER_05 (33:16):
And that is that multiple directions at the same
time.
That's kind of the manifestorpart because I have that too.
I just don't have the sacralenergy to back it up like you
do.
Um, so there's that aspect.
And then if we go down to thesacral, then that is your
authority.
And that's kind of how you makedecisions.

(33:37):
That's why you felt comfortableinviting to me to your house
after knowing me for threeminutes.
Your sacral just went, yes.
And you just went with it.

SPEAKER_03 (33:50):
Partly intuition too, because I feel people.

SPEAKER_05 (33:53):
So and like the sacral, you know, that's like
hanging out in your gut area.
So it's very much an intuitiveyes or no kind of thing.
Yeah.
So it's it's what you'reresponding to with your
intention, which tends to beyour sacral, which if I remember
correctly, you also have adefined spleen, which is your
intuition.

SPEAKER_01 (34:13):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (34:13):
And so they kind of work in conjunction with one
another.
Because I think they'reconnected.
Yeah.
I can't remember for sure, but Ithink they're connected.
So like you would, like if youchose to tune into it, and you
really have, um, you would justhave like spot on intuition all
the time.
Yeah.
So unless I block it.
Right.
I usually do.
Yeah.
I mean, obviously it's not gonnawork if you block it.

SPEAKER_03 (34:35):
Sometimes I don't like to trust it.
And every time I don't trust it,I I get recognition that I
should trust it more.

SPEAKER_02 (34:43):
Yeah, yeah.
The brain always gets in theway.
Yeah.
Yeah, it does sometimes, andthat's okay.

SPEAKER_03 (34:49):
It is.
So, you know, it's we are havingthis human experience in the
matrix of all things.
So that's fun.
It's so interesting because Ijust did I did that like I don't
know, I guess like a year and ahalf ago.
But I'd also done some thingslike I was telling you life
languages, and I actually justdid a podcast like two days ago
with someone that also did humandesign, which is ironic because

(35:10):
I totally at different timestalked to you guys and it just
came up again.
So I'm like, this is cool.

SPEAKER_02 (35:17):
You clearly need to delve more into that.
I apparently I do.

SPEAKER_03 (35:20):
Um, but it was also it was just confirmation for
like the way I've always felt.
Yeah.
The way I've always moved, likeI knew, like I think about it
now.
Like my daughter, and I shoulddo her human design actually
too.
It might really help.
I should do that while you're intown so you can talk to her
about it.
You should.

(35:41):
Yes, I will do that.
Um, yes, you will love her.
She's but she, you know, she'sin school right now, and I think
she's much like myself when itcomes to the energies around
her.
I don't know if she has themechanisms and the just the
consistency of protectingherself in high energetic

(36:01):
environments.
I mean, high school, did youthink about high school?
I mean, yeah, bless theirhearts.
Like teachers are burnt out,it's not their fault.
The students are burnout, it'snot their fault.
Yeah, just so much.
And it starts at like 7:30 a.m.
And it's like, no, you know,which is ridiculous.
I mean, well, I mean,scientifically, the adolescent
brain, the teenage brain,doesn't really start working

(36:22):
until about 9 a.m.
Right.
Anyway.

SPEAKER_05 (36:25):
So why are we sending them to school at 7:30?
It doesn't make any sense.
I mean, it's fine if you'reseven, but not 17.

SPEAKER_03 (36:31):
Yeah, but even that, I'm like, I'm like a 9 a.m.
person.
Like 9 to 2.
Well, I am an early morningperson, but for kids, I feel
like 9 a.m.
is a great time for them tostart.
They can get up.
I'm just like, I don't know,even with my kids, I like I feel
like it's important to letpeople wake up on their own and
wake up slow because that getup, get out of the line.
Like, I feel like it's just sochaotic.

(36:52):
It is.
And it puts you in that instantfight or flight when it's like
you have that rigidity firstthing in the morning.
Like, we're not supposed to doall that.

SPEAKER_05 (37:01):
We are not.
We're not.
We're supposed to get up when wefeel like it and go to sleep
when we feel like it.
Right.
And I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (37:07):
I'm and live in a tree.
Yeah, right.
Hug them, hug all the trees.

SPEAKER_03 (37:11):
I don't know.
I feel like I'm a circadianrhythm person.
Like when the sun comes up, I'mwide awake.
And when the sun goes down, I amout.
Yeah.
But I do have that 3 p.m., whichI think is still my adrenals and
cortisol, like that 3 p.m.
Oh, I'm so exhausted.

SPEAKER_05 (37:27):
It still gets me too.
Yeah.
There's something about threeo'clock.
And it's like, okay, I'm donenow.
Yeah.
It's interesting, right?
I've always spelt.

SPEAKER_03 (37:36):
Yeah.
We'll have to look it more intothat.
See what my rhythms are.

SPEAKER_05 (37:39):
Yeah.
I can't remember whether or notyou have root definition.
And now I want to look.
I'm gonna go get it.
You talk about something fun.

SPEAKER_02 (37:45):
Let's talk.
I'm getting it.
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (37:49):
Talk about something fun.
We could talk about yourthree-five profile too.

SPEAKER_02 (37:53):
What does that mean?

SPEAKER_05 (37:54):
Okay.
So your three-five profile isactually pretty intense.
Like that's a hard profile tohave.

SPEAKER_02 (38:00):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (38:01):
Um, because three, um, if you look at traditional
human design, it's called themartyr heretic.

SPEAKER_03 (38:07):
Oh, that sounds familiar.

SPEAKER_05 (38:09):
Yeah, I imagine it does.
So the thing about the martyr,fairly specifically, is it's all
about experimentation.
You do have root definition.
Okay, that sacral doesn'tconnect the way that I thought
it did.
It connects over to your GCenter.
Do you have single definition?
I think you do.

SPEAKER_03 (38:29):
No, no, I'm wrong.
I have no idea what any of thismeans, but I'm learning.

SPEAKER_05 (38:32):
Okay, I'm sorry.
I am no, I am gigging out for asecond.
No, it's perfect.

SPEAKER_03 (38:38):
So we're getting my just so clarify, you guys.
Yes.
She's reading my human designprofile.

SPEAKER_02 (38:44):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (38:44):
So if others wanted to do this human design profile,
what would the steps be to take?

SPEAKER_05 (38:49):
So you can uh you can just Google it.
Uh my human design is a greatplace to start.
Um, it's not like a super goodplace to stay.

SPEAKER_01 (39:01):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (39:01):
Um, but it'll give you a lot of the information
that you need to get started.
Okay.
Um, but it's a good place tostart.
Okay.
Uh after that, you probably wantto move on over to Jovian
archive, which is what this oneis right here.
Okay.
And that gives you a little bitmore uh closer to actual human

(39:25):
design uh information.
Okay.
And um if you want to get reallyinto the weeds, you can try
genetic matrix or neutrinodesign, which neutrino design is
my favorite.
But all of that to say uhthere's actually some places
where you can get free readingson the internet.

SPEAKER_00 (39:41):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (39:41):
Um you just Google human design chart, it lots of
stuff will be.
Or they could come to you.
Or they could come to me.
Like that is totally an option.
I forget that.
I actually do offer human designreadings.

SPEAKER_00 (39:54):
I'm like, isn't this what you do?

SPEAKER_05 (39:56):
Oh yeah, it is what I do.

SPEAKER_03 (39:59):
I love it.

SPEAKER_05 (40:00):
I did forget that for a second.
Um, but I do offer human designreadings as well.
If you want to go like superhigh level, get the type
strategy and authority, thatthree five uh sacral man gen
thing that we're talking about.
If you want to do that, I offer,you know, a foundational reading
that we can cover all of that.

(40:21):
But if you want to get reallyinto the weeds with this, get
your type strategy and authorityand your like um I'm doing that
next.

SPEAKER_03 (40:29):
That's step two, because that's not on there,
right?

SPEAKER_05 (40:31):
Oh, type strategy and authority is definitely on
here.
Uh like this has all of theinformation.
It's just you have to know howto read it.

SPEAKER_03 (40:38):
Okay.
All right, so let's see.
So what am I?
Let me let's dissect my humandesign, you guys.

SPEAKER_05 (40:43):
Yes.
Okay.
So the martyr is really allabout experimentation.
Okay.
And we were talking about thethree-five profile before I
read.

SPEAKER_03 (40:51):
So it's not like the martyr that sacrifices her life
for everyone else?

SPEAKER_05 (40:54):
No, it is that too.

unknown (40:55):
Fuck.

SPEAKER_05 (40:57):
But in like a on bar, it's like a different way
than you might think about it.
So, what tends to happen is youlearn by experimenting.
So, what you're really trying todo is solve problems with
experimentation.
Yep.
The five is solving problems,the three is experimentation.
Okay.
So when you're experimenting,you're gonna mess it up.

unknown (41:16):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (41:17):
You know, like that's gonna happen.
And what tends to happen is thatpeople don't like that.
Um and that's that's kind of thecrux.

SPEAKER_03 (41:27):
People that it happen to don't like that.

SPEAKER_05 (41:29):
People just don't like it when failure happens.

SPEAKER_03 (41:31):
Like oh, I embrace it.
But you learn, that's how yougrow.

SPEAKER_05 (41:33):
But you also don't.

SPEAKER_03 (41:34):
I also don't really believe in failure.
Fair.
Um, like I feel like it's a lifelesson.
And I love how new opportunityto understand a different
perspective.
Yes, exactly.
Not everything is supposed towork out for you.
No, what is supposed to work outfor you will always happen.
So you have to trust that ifsomething doesn't work out,
that's just holding space forsomething new.

(41:55):
Exactly.
So that's my philosophy onfailure.

SPEAKER_05 (41:58):
And that is a remarkably healthy perspective
for a three.

SPEAKER_03 (42:03):
Even in school, you know, you like you fail a test
or something.
So it doesn't matter.
Like, this is such a small, likefor me in school.
Sorry, you guys, it is such asmall percentage of med
measuring like actualintelligence or capability or it
doesn't mean it's alwaysintrinsically new in school.
Like, so what?
I didn't memorize it or I didn'twhat whatever.

(42:25):
It's all right.
Because like it's not a bigdeal.
But I also was really blessedthat my parents didn't really
care.
I mean, I pushed myself and Imake good grades and I went to
college.
I did all the, I mean, I checkedall the boxes, I did all the
stuff.
But when I got to like anatomyand physiology and the body and
human body and human health andbehavior, that's when I dove in
and I was all in.
I was like, okay, this stuff I'mgonna use in my life.
Yeah, but is it interesting theother stuff?

(42:46):
I'm like, so what?

SPEAKER_05 (42:47):
Who cares?
That's a remarkably healthyperspective.
Most martyrs really succumb tothe judgment.

SPEAKER_03 (42:54):
Um I mean, I was always pretty intense with
self-judgment with others, yeah.
Um yeah, mine, I think fear ofjudgment, you know.
I've always kind of been like,who gives a crap what you think?
But always been very rigid withmyself.
So I think that's where mine's alittle different.

(43:16):
You kind of just turned it onyourself in judgment than it is
anyone else.

SPEAKER_05 (43:21):
All right, solid.
Yeah.
Um, so what typically happens iswhen uh you experiment with
something and it goes awry,because experimentation does
tend to go awry.
Um because that's howexperimentation works.
What happens is people willjudge that, and then uh they
judge you for that.
Okay, because you failed.
Okay.

(43:41):
And so like they tend to judgeyou very harshly, and that's the
martyr thing.

SPEAKER_03 (43:47):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (43:47):
It's because you messed up, you you just need to
go hang yourself.
Like that's kind of the vibe uhthat tends to come across with
threes.

SPEAKER_03 (43:56):
And then when you combine that with So that's
their personal perception,you're saying?

SPEAKER_05 (44:00):
Not necessarily, it's also the perception of
others around too.
Okay, that's what I was tryingto do.
Like somebody's wagging thefinger at you, usually.
Okay.
And it's like, no, you did thiswrong.
Okay.
That kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 (44:11):
Like one person in my life that does that.

SPEAKER_05 (44:13):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (44:14):
Um she'd be upset if I mentioned her.
She got up on a differentpodcast, didn't go over too
well.

SPEAKER_05 (44:19):
And see, that's amazing because the big thing
with both threes and fives isthey have to find people with
patience and loving.
Uh-huh.
Uh, they need to be able to lovethemselves before they can
really come in contact with you,because they have to come up at
it from a loving perspectivebecause you're going to
experiment and it's going to gowrong, but you'll do it again

(44:41):
and then you'll solve theproblem at some point.
Right.
So uh yeah.
And the I think the other halfof that, because there's
generally human design and thenthere's quantum human design,
which is a Karen Curry Parkerthing.
And I really like using both,um, especially when it comes to
the profile lines, becauseyou've got the profile lines in

(45:04):
regular human design, they'reall just a little bit negative.

SPEAKER_01 (45:09):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (45:10):
But if you look at Karen Curry Parker and quantum
human design, she really takesthe light side of it.
Okay.
So, like in um for the three,you've got the martyr, but
you've also got the explorer inquantum human design.
So it's kind of the other waythat that can go.
And so when I heard you talking,I really heard you say, I have

(45:31):
taken on this explorer mantle.
And like I know that mistakesare going to happen in
experimentation, and I refuse tolet anyone judge me for that.
I love that.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
That solar plexus get into work.
And you know, you have a wideopen solar plexus.
Like, you have so much empathybecause the solar plexus in

(45:55):
human design land is where westore our emotions.
And so when you have an opensolar plexus, like it comes with
so much empathy.

SPEAKER_01 (46:05):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (46:06):
So emotional empathy.
So yeah, makes total sense foryou.
Okay.
Love that.
Yeah.
And then we've got the five.
Um, and that five line inregular human design is called
the heretic.

SPEAKER_01 (46:20):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (46:20):
And in quantum human design, it's called the fixer.

SPEAKER_03 (46:25):
Any word to his son's confirmation.
Oh, that's fantastic.
You have to meet Matt whileyou're here.
Hello.
Oh, I love every moment of that.
It could have, it was funny.
I didn't even think about it.
Like it could have been like adual purpose podcast.
We'll have to talk to him aboutall this.
But anyway.

SPEAKER_05 (46:45):
Oh my gosh, that's awesome.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (46:47):
I would have to come over and do a whole family human
design.

SPEAKER_05 (46:50):
Okay.
I can totally do that.
Um, to fly me down here and andwe'll totally make it a thing.
So I do also do readings overZoom.
Like that is absolutelyavailable.
But the five, it's the five isreally interesting because it's
all about perspective andpeople's perspective on you and

(47:11):
perception of you.
So, what usually happens withthe five is that someone will
initially perceive you as justlike the best thing since sliced
bread.
Just astounding and incredibleand like you can do anything,
you can fix anything.
It's all perfect, right?

(47:32):
Yeah.
But then, and this is especiallytrue for you because you've got
the experimentation thing goingon.
But then you will fail to fixsomething.

SPEAKER_01 (47:42):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (47:43):
At some point, you will fail to fix something
because you are human and you'rea three.
So you get it twice.
Um and when you fail to fix thatthing, that's when this other
person's perspective of youshifts.
And instead of you being thebest thing ever, you're the
worst thing ever.
You're with the worst thing thatthey can think about themselves.

(48:05):
Because it's all just themprojecting themselves onto you.

SPEAKER_03 (48:08):
Right.
Um, so I'm a trigger, I'm atrigger puller.

SPEAKER_05 (48:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (48:14):
Yes, you are.

SPEAKER_05 (48:16):
Yes.
So whatever the worst thing theycan think about themselves,
they're going to think thatabout you.

SPEAKER_03 (48:22):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (48:23):
Uh, which is why we have confidence then.
Yes.
But it's also super important.
Yes.
And you have surrounded yourselfwith people who love themselves.
Right.
So, yeah, they may think theworst thoughts about them or
about you or themselves, but itdoesn't really matter because
it's fleeting for them.
And they know that it's just aprojection.

SPEAKER_01 (48:46):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (48:47):
So that's interesting.
I love it.
Anything else?
So much.
All right.
We'll just do a couple more ofyou guys.
This is really intriguing.
And you guys are getting myfirst ever human design meeting
live here.

SPEAKER_05 (49:01):
Okay.
So um, you also have anundefined um heart center.
And uh the heart center in humandesign is kind of where will
lives.
It's like your ego, your will,your drive to like
determination.
Yeah, that kind of vibe.
So since yours is open, and thisis negated somewhat by your

(49:24):
defined psychral center, butthere tends to be a sense of
self-worth issues.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (49:30):
Like well, mine is like my work ethic.
I actually just had thisconversation earlier this week.
The deepest, deepest, deepest,deepest, deepest, I think,
condition, it's probablygenerational is your work ethic,
is your worthiness.
Yes.
So it's like I internally feellike I have to work so hard to

(49:51):
be worthy of anything.
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (49:53):
Everything.

SPEAKER_03 (49:53):
Yes.
And like literally, uh I workmore and do more now than I've
ever had to in my entire life.
And if we're just looking from afinancial perspective or
whatever, I don't have to do anyof this.
But I'm choosing to because Iwant to.
But am I choosing to because Ireally want to, or am I choosing
to because I feel somewhere deepdown that I need to prove my

(50:15):
worth?
Exactly.
And I think for me, I just I'mvery blessed to have a lot of
different buckets of beautifulopportunities, like providing
resources to the community andproviding, you know, these
insights and this fun stuff fromthe podcast.
You know, so I truly enjoyeverything I do.
So it's really been a deep dive,especially this week.
I mean, this whole eclipseseason has been no joke.

SPEAKER_05 (50:36):
I know, right?

SPEAKER_03 (50:37):
Um, but it's really bringing that up for me a lot.
And I was thinking about thattoo.
Um, Sunday is a solar eclipse.
Yeah, I know.
So we're gonna add that into thevery end after projection.
Let's do all journaling andabout, yeah, I I came up with
some stuff for that.
Um, but that makes sense becauseit's absolutely worthiness.
It's like constantly having totake myself out of like, okay,

(51:01):
I'm in this situation, but I amin this situation because I
genuinely want to be here orbecause I feel like I need to be
here.
Yes.
Or am I doing this because Ifeel like I should do it, or
because I'm intrinsicintrinsically want to do it.
And do I feel like I should doit because I'm, you know, mom
guilting myself or doing it toprove myself to someone?

(51:22):
And it's all subconscious.
You know, I would neverconsciously think, like, oh, I
need to prove to so-and-so I cando this.
I've always actually been veryrebellious when it comes to
that.
Like, I don't give a fuck whatyou think.
However, deep down, there's a,you know, something is fueling
that part of it too.
Yes.
So it's been really interesting.

(51:43):
It's been eye-opening, and I'mreally gonna do a deeper dive
actually at a warehouse.
This place, I did a um podcastwith them.
I'm gonna work with the teamthere and really dive deep doing
some like neural therapy stuffjust to get rid of that.
I feel like it's clogging me upa little bit.

SPEAKER_05 (51:57):
Yeah, I think that's a really good idea.
I love that.
And the shoulds, that'sabsolutely all tied to that
undefined heart center.

SPEAKER_03 (52:05):
I was in the epitome of a shoulder.

SPEAKER_05 (52:07):
Well, and you know, you're not the only one.
Like two-thirds of people havean undefined heart center.
Mine is open.
I recently realized that nomatter what I'm doing, my brain
thinks I should be doingsomething else.
Like, even right now, I I don'tknow, I don't even know what it
is that I should be doing rightnow, but probably not this, you

(52:31):
know, because my brain's insane.
And like it's just constantlydoing that.
Uh-huh.
But my heart center is open.
And so that is a thing that I amalso working through.

SPEAKER_01 (52:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (52:43):
It's like, should I be doing this or should I let
this go?
And should is just such an evillittle word.

SPEAKER_03 (52:50):
It is, but I think that just from my own personal
experience, that's a product ofit is overcoming the the um PTSD
stuff.
Yeah, it absolutely does getbetter in time.
It does get much better in time.
And you know, it has to catchit.
The fact that you have awarenessover it, you're already there,
you know?
Yeah.
And that's just it.
Um, just catching that stuff.

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And it's like, no, actually, itshould be here right now.
And I'm giving myself permissionto do that.

SPEAKER_05 (53:15):
Exactly.
This is exactly where I'msupposed to be right now.
Exactly.
So um awesome.

SPEAKER_03 (53:21):
Yeah.
This is fun.
All right, give us two morelittle things.

SPEAKER_05 (53:23):
Okay, two more little things.
Um, ooh, okay.
So you've got the 214 channel.
This is a really good channel.
I love this channel.
It's all about the allocation ofresources.
Oh.
So, like, you really know whatto do with stuff.

SPEAKER_02 (53:37):
Oh, this is freaking fun off for my life.
That's my job.
Like, I oh, is it?
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (53:43):
So I do community outreach, my community outreach
coordinator.
So I have like literally spentthe fast four years providing
resources.
Oh my gosh.
And you're so good at it.
Around the world, but not onlythat, connecting other partners,
like charitable partnerstogether or people together.
I feel like I've always beengreat at like connecting people.
Yeah.

(54:03):
Even like through thispodcasting and meeting people,
like I have like a whole list ofpeople I'm sending you that you
have to talk to in Sarasota andconnect with.
Um, but I feel like that's thewhole kind of point of this
podcast, too, is providingpeople opportunities and
resources.
And it's nothing about me.
Like, yeah, I'm here to share myjourney and hold space and you
know, be like why words ofwisdom or piss you off or

(54:25):
whatever, whatever my podcastdoes for you.
Hopefully, it's all the abovesometimes.
But the really the intentionbehind it is to provide
resources for people.
So I love that because it'salways been like where I've felt
heart led.
Yeah.
It's giving back and providingprobably too a lot of like I

(54:45):
needed a lot of resources at onepoint in time.
So, you know, sure there's thatto do with it too.
Yeah.
But it just kind of comesnaturally.
Like, I'll be in conversation.
I have to shut my mind down andreally be intentional about my
listening because I'm like, oh,I should connect them with
so-and-so and so-and-so and so.
And I was like, stop, you'relistening.

SPEAKER_05 (55:01):
Like, yes.
Listening.
Yes.
But I love that because it's um,I love that you said that it's
heart led because this channelactually connects your G center
up with your sacral.

SPEAKER_02 (55:14):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (55:14):
And so like your G center is really kind of where
your sense of identity and likeyour soul really lives.
Okay.
So like that channel.
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (55:24):
Sorry, I couldn't talk.
You said it like two days in arow.
And I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (55:28):
So that's up here.
It is.
The G center's up here.
It's nowhere close to your Gspot.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (55:34):
Maybe it is.
Maybe we're just trying to reachthe soul.

SPEAKER_05 (55:37):
Maybe it is.
I mean, everything is connected.

SPEAKER_02 (55:41):
So you know, it works.

SPEAKER_05 (55:44):
And this is connecting your G Center to your
sacral.
So there you go, you know.
Kinda.
Kinda.
So, but I do love that becauseit's so heart-led and it's like
just right up here and rightwith your soul.
And like you're really in tunewith that.
That's beautiful.
Awesome.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 (56:03):
This has been amazing confirmation.
Everyone, you need to get ahuman design.

SPEAKER_05 (56:08):
And I do have like a long version of this because you
can't cover everything in anhour.
Like, oh gosh, so yeah, I canget you your type strategy and
authority in an hour.
But like I have something calledan integration journey that's
actually seven or eight sessionslong, but you just kind of take
your time through it.
Okay.
And restore your website.

(56:30):
Okay.
Yes.
Um, and you can really dive deepinto it and get into all the
nitty gritty.

SPEAKER_03 (56:38):
Oh, that's happening.
I mean, I feel like I've justbeen so curious just by hearing
a little bit of it today.
And it's just it's really coolconfirmation.
Yeah.
It really is.
Now I'm like, I don't know.
Can I send you everyone I know'sstuff so I can get their human
design so I know how to workwith them better?
No, I'm just officially gonna dothis with my husband and my

(57:00):
children for myself, so Iunderstand them better.
But it's just a really cooltool, right?
So you take all of this with agrain of salt.
Sure.
And and know that it's justtools, right?
It's tools to help us understandeach other, understand
ourselves.
Um, for me, it's like greatconfirmation.
And I think it's just so muchfun.
Yeah.
Yeah, so much fun.

(57:20):
And so it was kind of likeout-of-the-box ways of, you
know, I don't like to sayidentifying, but it's just like
understanding there's so muchmore to us than what we know.
So true.
There's so much more to us thanwhat we know.
So we know, yes.
Like it goes way beyond the hereand now.
It's just uh it's reallybeautiful.

(57:41):
Yeah, sometimes it's a littlecrazy, but I but that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 (57:44):
Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_03 (57:45):
Like that's what makes it interesting.
Right.
So if there's anything that youwant our guests to like
understand more, take with them,understand about you.
Is there any way anything youwant to throw out there to wrap
this up?

SPEAKER_05 (57:59):
Um that's a really good question.
And I really should have had ananswer prepared.

SPEAKER_03 (58:08):
Whatever's meant to come will come.
But that's okay.

SPEAKER_05 (58:11):
Um I I will give myself like a little warning um
because working with me can bereally triggering.
So uh just because of the way myenergy works, you know, I'm a
five-one manifestor.
Manifestors really like we kindof get in it and we do tend to
trigger people just simply bybeing.

(58:33):
So, like if you're not ready forthat, that's okay.
There's lots of otherpractitioners that you can see.
Um, but if you feel like you'reready for a manifestor to
initiate you and for a 5-1 tofix your life, not really.
We don't actually fix yourlives, you know that.

SPEAKER_03 (58:46):
Well, it's a guiding tool.

SPEAKER_05 (58:47):
Yeah, exactly.
Um, then understand.
Yeah.
Um, but it is helpful to have alittle bit of spirituality
already under your belt.

SPEAKER_03 (58:56):
Yeah, absolutely.
So yeah, I wouldn't start here.
No.

unknown (59:01):
Start.

SPEAKER_03 (59:02):
Maybe go get a crystal and cleanse it first.
And then I am not the person youstart with.
So but I thought that's such ahumble response though.
And I love that, and Iappreciate that.
And I think that just speaks toyour energy and your aura, and
you're just, you know, I Iappreciate it.
I'm excited about this weekend.
We will keep you posted.

(59:23):
Have to maybe we'll have to do asession two sometime to let you
know how the retreat went.
But she is available at yourabundant design.
Yes.
Um, and thank you so much forbeing here today, Scarlett.
Thank you so much for pleasure.
It was so much fun.
And um, yeah, until next time.