Life Be Lifing

We reflect on mortality as we watch people our age pass away from health issues rather than street violence. This stark realization forces us to consider our own health habits and preventative measures as we approach our 40s.

• LeBron James reaching 50,000 career points and why his achievements stand regardless of GOAT debates
• The confrontation between LeBron and Stephen A. Smith over comments about Bronny
• Spring break revelations and the challenges of balancing work with family time
• Playboy Carti's new album as "rage music" designed specifically for live performances and mosh pits
• The ethics of separating art from controversial artists like R. Kelly
• Drake's UMG lawsuit and why established artists might consider going independent
• Reviewing Camp Lo's 1997 debut album "Uptown Saturday Night" and its place in hip-hop history

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I got it, but I got it.
You got something in your teethtoo, girl.
Look, I'm going to cut it out.
Dog, that ain't doing you goodnow it's gone.
Now you had a little piece ofchicken.
It was up front, all right Yo.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
When the tension was kicking in, I'd be.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Look at us Back again , back again, back again.
That's a long applause.
Yo, welcome to another episode.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
That's right.
What was your girl?
Ricky Lake?
That was a Ricky Lake.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, bro because that was a lot of Ricky Lake,
ricky late.
Welcome to another episode oflate to the party with Dodie and
Reggie.
I am Reggie, dodie and yes, weare late to the party.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, finally back.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
We back.
It's been a busy two weeks forboth of us, so, but we are here
now and I want to just startwith a little.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
He hasn't been very good.
The broad, the broad, the broad, the broad, the broad, the
broad the broad, the broad, thebroad, the broad.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Hey Boy, this shit is beautiful.
Who went to the?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
studio.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
And said, hey, I got an idea cuz Huh, yeah.
Yeah, deal cuz huh yeah yeah.
I heard that's out.
This shit.
It's a nice little.
It's a few of them going around.
It's like a challenge.
Now.
Everybody want to show how muchthey love LeBron right now.

(01:59):
50,000 plus points.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Been that dude for a minute, for a long time, for a
minute.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Even though nobody wants to, he don't even have to
be.
Let's say he's not better thanJordan.
Let's say he's not better thanJordan.
He's still LeBron James.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
He's still LeBron James.
50,000 points is crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
But they say, you know, since he played so long
he's supposed to get thosepoints.
But it don't matter, nobodyelse done it.
Other players have played For20 years.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Vince Carter ain't nowhere near.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Not close so.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
He went from a dunker To a three point shooter.
Like I, can't get Well after awhile.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
You can't get up there no more, so you got to
change the way you play.
What can I do?
Yeah, learn this fadeaway realquick.
So what's been going on, man,since we've been Shit?
We took some time off.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I know I say it every week or every other week Life.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Life be lifin'.
You got to learn how to dealwith shit.
Roll with the punches.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
And you know what, Speaking of basketball, like all
the niggas that we grew up withare getting up in age.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
And in life, all the people we grew up with are
getting up in age, yeah.
And it's crazy because I hateto bring it down, but you know,
like niggas, we went to schoolwith bro be, falling like flies.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
So now you're like, damn, am I drinking enough water
?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and reallystart thinking about shit, Did I
do enough?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
So when you're young and you see your mama and your
granny and they thinking aboutthat like they start seeing, you
know everybody around isdisappearing and you in a young
mind state so you ain't thinkingabout it.
I'm about to be 40.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I'm about to go to bro house right now.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
So I'm hitting 40,.
You know I got some time before40, but we getting there.
So you start, you know, likeyou said, you start seeing
people disappearing and shit.
It's like damn.
You know what I'm saying,especially when it's which is,
which is.
It is what it is.
You see a nigga Hit by a car,killed, blah, blah, blah.
It's kind of like.
That's not an age thing, though.

(04:10):
So when you start Seeing peopleyour age Passing away, due to
like Like having strokes andheart attacks and stuff like
that.
That's when it starts Getting alittle like Damn.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
We was in a lifetime Of wellness together, you know
what I?
We had plans, nigga yeah man,that's been having a lot, bro.
I went into my unk year.
I entered the unk stage thisyear.
So it was like shit, shitgetting real.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's being real but these ain't the streets.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
They say that Exactly , this ain't shit.
You gotta be, you know youain't worried about nobody.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
They say that.
They say that yeah, exactly.
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, exactly this ain't shit, you gotta be.
You know you ain't worriedabout nobody else, you gotta
worry about yourself at thispoint, you're like god damn,
like I said am I drinking nowater?
Do I gotta get on an aspirinregimen?
You know what I'm saying.

(05:08):
It is like you checking foryour wallet and your keys.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Like do I need to get that?
Yeah, you need that.
No, I'm good.
Okay, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Like yeah, but yeah, bro, you gotta, hey, man, check
on yourself and check on yourpeople.
Man, yeah, you know, but thatwas all that.
Everything been cool.
Man, it's spring break.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Kids out of school.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
You got older kids.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I got older kids.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
They hit the door as soon as they get home.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I don't even know where they are right now.
That's what.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I'm saying I leave before my babies go to school,
so when I come home that'susually my break in between gigs
and shit, but nigga.
Today're firing on a Monday.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
We usually record on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah.
I got home I said oh yeah,we're firing today.
Hey cuz my baby girl woke up.
She said daddy, we got bacon,hold on.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yo, yo, yo, yo yo.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
What are you doing here?
First of all, I said no.
Instantly told her brother hey,man, make sure she eat, I'll be
, back.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'll be back.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
That's the benefit of having older kids.
But, bro, hey.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Mine 1917,.
Mine is like adults.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
You know what I hate?
It's like kids and we probablydid it too Not me, because I
knew the situation but niggas,spring break.
Kids think you supposed to beout when they out?
Oh yeah, yeah, I get what youmean what we doing.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I'm going to work.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, even if I didn't, motherfucker chores.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Clean up some spring clean clean up some.
I had my.
That's what mine been doing.
Mine been trying to get thishouse together.
But you know, sometimes youjust I've been out of work for
three weeks.
I'm finally get to go back towork.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I miss it yeah, I'm gonna say that you probably
hitting that point where it'slike, ah damn.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Hitting that point, nigga.
One week I was like look, realtalk.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
But you make your own money, so it's hard to just see
it.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, because when you not there, there's no paid
time off, there's no emergencydays.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Okay, so you're a barber At that point.
That's when being an owner Isessential, Cause you can.
You can take off and you canSteal back on that.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
No, it's definitely good.
You know what I'm saying,because when shit happens, it's
like Look, I gotta go, I gottahandle business, but you're not
making nothing, but you can Takecare of shit that you need to
take care of.
You know what I'm saying, sothat is a good thing.
Can you still hear me?
Man with the mic in here, Ijust feel like I'm Well
sometimes.
You got to Nah Pause, hey yo.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Y'all men's going to go crazy.
Hey man, that nigga two-handedPause.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Damn, I don't even want to touch them over there.
Sometimes you got to be upclose, though, you feel me.
My man said man, get up, we dogot better mics now, but you
can't be.
You know what I'm saying,especially the way you talk all
soft and shit.
Hey man, you got to be up onthat, motherfucker.
Make sure they can hear.

(08:21):
There's some ASMR videos.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Hey what they say.
Hey man, that's your mic now.
That's all you got.
You ain't got none of them.
Mouth all up tongue kissing.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Before we get too carried away, because that's
what we will do.
We started with LeBron and wemissed it last week.
Yeah, so LeBron, stephen ASmith, stephen A Smith approach
now.
The crazy thing is I've learnedmore since it happened

(08:58):
originally.
Yeah, so it's like my mind isdifferent now.
I know how it was, but StephenA Smith stepped or LeBron
stepped up to Stephen A Smith onthe court about talking about
his son in basketball and shit.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm saying so what was your thoughts on that
approach?

Speaker 1 (09:19):
For LeBron to be in the league.
This long man, he know how itgo.
If anything, if I'm going toapproach you, like Stephen A
said, you or Rich got the numberyou could have reached out to
me, but you know, as a father, Iain't trying to call you, I got
to see you when I see you.

(09:39):
What I would have liked to seeor not have seen.
I'd rather him did it behindthe scenes.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Instead of being on court.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we heardabout it, you see what I'm
saying Now.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
if Stephen A took that out of context, then okay,
cool.
Now let's hear it from LeBronyou know what I'm saying Maybe
like some KD shit, like tweet,something like hey bro, that
ain't what we're saying withface-to-face type shit.
I mean, it is what it is manLike he a dad, first and
foremost.
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
But at the same time you got to understand, like bro,
if he's going to be in thisleague.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
He's got to face the truth.
He's going to get ridiculed.
Yeah, he is.
Be in his league, he's got.
He's gonna get ridiculed.
Yeah, yeah.
And then, uh, I don't know ifyou watch, um, I can't think of
uh, the name right now, but uh,I think it's.
Uh, is it neuro?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
these are some mirror oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah theirpodcast.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
D-way was on there.
He was like man d-way said itlike you put that target on
Barney's back, which he did, soyou got to take what comes with
it.
Now he's been doing his thingin the G League.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
He's been showing out in the G League like looking
good.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
When he does get his chances.
Now, I mean, he does his thing.
We got to take that intoconsideration.
He's a rookie.
Second round 55th.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
I was about to say 55th pick.
It ain't like he was top tierpick either.
Come on bro, my thought on itwas fam, your kid is in the
league.
It is what it is, but what Ihave allegedly learned, or what
I have learned, the words got.
That's a hard word for Elmo.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Why would you say it before?
I picture that motherfuckingpoopy bro.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
But no, what I have learned since then is that
LeBron wasn't stepping to him aslike don't talk about him as a
basketball player, but ratherthan he was stepping to him
saying like when you on yourshit, you saying as a father,
you shouldn't let your son dothis.
So LeBron, talking to him fromthat angle, I'm kind of on

(12:05):
LeBron's side.
You know what I'm saying.
So if I come to you and be like, don't give me parenting tips
in the public type shit likethat Like you can't tell me
what's good as a parent,especially when I ain't I mean,
it ain't like he snortingcocaine or shooting the nigga,
just playing basketball.

(12:25):
But this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
It'll be totally different if you were to say,
LeBron, I need to holler at you.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
You see what I'm saying, somebody capture that
and then he like no, no, he'slike nah, I need to holler at
you, you know what I'm saying.
Then we can start speculating,but man, but either way, it's
not wrong how you feel aboutStephen A going on different
podcasts and kind of, I guess,explaining his side of it, but

(12:54):
more or less.
I mean Stephen A yells a lotanyway, so it's not like he's
going to be him, but it do comeoff a way Like I seen him on
yeah.
Yeah, I seen him on Gil Gil,yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I seen him on Nerd talking crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I only watched that for one reason I didn't really
care for it.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I just wanted to see the interaction between him and
Rashad McKenzie.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Who's Stephen A Smith ?
And Falcone was what I thoughtwhat you thought was good.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Because it's like bro , like Certain people, I'm
trying to you know, but we gonnaget monetized.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
One of these days.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I'm trying to edit my verbiage.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Oh, we, we doing that .

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
My bad.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Early on.
I keep looking at the time Like, okay, we got.
Then I can go in Mother, but wemight need to work on that.
That's the time I'm like okay,we got you, we got you, then I
can go in and murder.
We might need to work on that.
That's where it come from.
You know, I want you to put twofeet in this body bag and then
when he get there, he like Imean you was saying oh, I just
want you to clarify you knowwhat I'm saying it's different
when motherfuckers is in yourface Is in your face, your face.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, it's like that all the time.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
It don't care who we're here.
Hey, what you say.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Mm-hmm, you really good, but see, and that's also
why, like on LeBron end, ratherthan me saying something, rather
than me saying something liketo a news reporter or something,
I'm coming straight to you.
No, yeah, like straight, ain't?
No, I didn't get what you said.
Ain't?
No, I didn't get what you said.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Why, you, you know what I'm saying but Brian knows
like bro you too big of a figure, yeah for you to even try
anything like that, but.
I feel like it was one of themthings like I've been talking,
talking about this so when hefinally seen him, it wasn't no
restraint, because it was likeoh nah, nigga, what?
Oh, you heard you right here.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I got you that type of energy, so I mean.
One of you would have said Ineed to holler at you and just,
stephen A just left, he just hajust out the building gone.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
That show was type of man he is.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
On some other shit.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
That shrimp was good.
I'm going to go get more shrimp.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
That's what you got to do to Irish.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
goodbye you got to be out there, I'm going to get
more shrimp.
And they just disappear.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Just gone Valley.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Mr Smith, it's only halftime.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, I haven't seen him in a while.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, I know we cutting out TNT, but I think he
on everybody's podcast right nowbecause he got to fill it up.
He got a new contract.
I mean yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Shit, he got it.
I mean he got, like you said, acontract.
He got his podcast.
He trying to do his own thing,so yeah, pop it off.
So when you in that, when youand he's smart as shit when it
comes to the media space, sowhen I'm I mean this is what I
do, so I'm yeah, but that wasthe only thing Like I watched

(15:46):
that just for that I

Speaker 1 (15:47):
wanted to see Rashad.
He like cowered like a mother.
Mm-hmm, you did say like you'relike nigga, and it was crazy
because Stephen A just likeListen, brother.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah , I might not have played in
North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
That's another thing I don't like, though, because
these are news reporters, right?
You got people online talkingabout a person that couldn't
even make it in colleges,talking about another person
play basketball.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Nigga, nigga.
First off, I hate when peoplesay that Even the actual ball
players, bro.
Even the actual ball players,bro, because it takes a
spectator to watch what you'redoing for you to even have that
job.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah.
Somebody has to critique thatshit, but that's just like
everybody online Nigga.
When the March Madness is aboutto happen, everybody going to
be talking crazy about thesedifferent players.
All of us is on the fuckingcouch not doing shit.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
It's cool for a motherfucker to watch your game
and say, hey, you ESPN top 100.
Nigga, they named me top 100.
This nigga may have neverplayed a game.
That validation just gave youall the confidence in the world.
But now, when you made it likethen, you ain't never played.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
What are you talking about?
I don't get that.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
I don't get that.
Like I said, if nobody'scritiquing you, bro you.
But that's what the you havefood critics, I was just about
to say, but they can tell yourass if that food good or not?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
What's missing?
They can tell you what'smissing, nigga, the Double XL
Magazine.
You forgot the cinnamon andnutmeg.
When the sources was giving outfive mics, them niggas wasn't
rappers and shit, but we lookedforward to seeing who got a
three mic, four mic, five mic.
Not too many fives out therethough Not too many fives.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Not too many fives.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
That was his shit, though What'd you get me?

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Two, put them exes on there how you do that Control.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Put me on.
What was his group?
The Hangman 3 or whatever.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I don't know, I just thought.
I always thought that nigga Wasa part of the Beatnuts.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Nah, he wasn't part of them, I'm just saying.
But I understand, I understandwhat else we on?
What else going on?
Man, rolling Loud happened, youdon't.
You don't do Rolling Loud,rolling Loud happened, you don't
do.
Rolling Loud, rolling Loudhappened.
What you think about this newsong cuz?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I seen LaVar Walker.
Lavar Walker's like hey, nigga,you grew up in Chino Hills,
your mother's wife, this niggatalking gangster, gangster, cuz
he talking.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Nigga, you can't fuck with me, cuz you ain't no
tweaker, not a bad sound.
If the music is good, the musicis good, not a bad sound, but
when you looking at who it is.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Are we there for the story, though?
What's the story?
That's what I'm saying.
I'm just there for.
Okay, I'm glad you this isgoing to go into something
different.
Playboy quality.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
What about Playboy?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Did you hear that album?

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I did those 30 songs there's 30 songs.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, I told you I don't get it.
My brother told me, bro, it'srage music.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
He was like that's for the ragers.
His music is just forperformances.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Boom.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
And I'm crazy, I lose it on tour.
But you knew that the list wasfull.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Why my nigga laugh in the middle of a verse?
The nigga's, a demon, hold up.
Have it near my way.
Like Usher dawg.
Red and blue diamond.
Like Usher dawg.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Upscore on you niggas like Rucker dawg.
I'm sore cause I got it off themuscle dawg Streets ready for
this shit right here.
Drop, drop, drop, drop.
Watch watch Elionte go bigWhite gold link fall on the
belly.
The emerald cut for her.
I'm sorry, cuz that bitch onpoint like A$AP Relly I'm
talking about.
The numbers is nothing, themoney is nothing.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I really be hell, my the nigga is the greatest to
ever do it.
I'm sorry, give me two seconds.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
I promise they can't even heavy out west and I carry
the weight.
Nigga, I'm Luka Doncic.
Conspiracy theories is given,but I must admit it, you got the
wrong person.
They bundling Maine, chicagoslaying.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Which one of you niggas.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
A merchant, merchant, merchant, yeah, merchant Cardo,
my evil twin.
Cardi, my evil twin.
My skin is smoother, my teethis whiter.
My Sorry.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Bruh.
That was the best part of thealbum.
That's the best part on thewhole album, the features.
That nigga's a fucking maze andI'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
And I don't bruh, like I was telling my brother, I
don't feel, I feel like thatwas just like at this point he
trolling, oh yeah, yeah yeah,for sure, not only is he
trolling, yeah.
This is effortless bro.
This ain't even shit, I wrotedown.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
And it was recent because Luka just got out to the
West.
I just wrote this yesterday.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Stop it right there, bring it back.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Why he laugh, cuz the nigga laughed in the middle of
the person.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
He's a fucking demon do you think that's a shot at
your boy?
Yeah okay yeah, yeah, yeah,let's stay on this talk because
something came out today, but uh, back to that, like I was
telling my brother if I had tocome, like I was trying to find
something I could compare it tolike in our time and I was like

(22:08):
bro, the only thing I can say ismaybe Playboy is his crowds,
lil Jon, because I don't hearanything but chants.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
And that's all it is.
Get to where I'm at right now.
Yeah, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, and that's why Lil Jon was.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
That's a good one.
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
And I'm not saying he's, I'm not comparing him to
Lil Jon, but I'm comparing himto Lil Jon.
Yeah, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
It's them shit to get rowdy to.
It's like rock and roll Nigga,like we out here wildin' Fucking
Mosh, let's go.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
This is like listening to this.
Like I told my brother bruh,I'm hearing one big track.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
And it has different breaks in it.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
But I'm like bruh.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
This is literally like when I'm hearing this I'm
thinking of like Guns N' Roses.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Welcome to the jungle .
The production on this album,though, is fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
I just I kind of do yeah, because you will, fucking
you be in the mosh pits and shit.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I love mosh pits.
Come on bro, I love that shit.
But so I watch people react tothe album right, me and my kids
be.
You know they be watching theirstreamers react to them.
Yeah, so we watch differentpeople react to different albums
.
This is Watching people reactto this album was weird, because

(23:32):
it's not that type of music.
It's not that type of music tosit back and hmm okay.
He said okay Because it don'teven sound good until when I put
it in the car.
That motherfucker was going.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
And that's why I said Lil Jon it's.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Lil Jon.
It's Lil Jon.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Like okay, back to the Red Chevy days Fucking
gorillas, going crazy in thattrap.
You want to hear uh-huh, youwant to hear that shit.
That's why I said, like maybethis is that.
To where I'm going to feel likenigga we going out?
To the motherfucking whatever.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
to where a motherfucker, like nigga, we
going out to the motherfuckingwhatever.
But at least you can kind ofpinpoint it to something.
Because what I don't like iswhen older people be like
because, yeah, we don't get it,but we can also pinpoint and be
like, okay, I understand whyy'all on it.
Because we did have Lil Jon, wehad Scrappy, we had Crime Mob.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Shout out to my brother.
Like I said, he was like bro,you listening to it or you
trying to listen to, excuse me,word in his heart.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Shout out to Terry.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Moore, but he basically telling me, like you
trying to listen, to Damn.
You trying to listen to it witha different kind of ear and I
was like, okay, well, let mefind somebody where I don't
listen for the lyrics.
And I was like Lil.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Jon, that's Lil Jon Boom the whole crunk era.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
And when I put it in that I'm like, okay, I'm
starting to get it.
This is for niggas.
That's like Reggie Nigga.
I'm about to take my shirt off,go barefoot and mosh with these
motherfuckers in here.
If I punch a bitch, I'mpunching her.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
It is what it is.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
If I get punched, it's cool because I'm in the pit
.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Once I put it in my mind this is what that's for.
Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Okay, cool, yeah, I get it.
But then I was like you havemotherfuckers that's really
trying to rap, I don't care forokay, I get that.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Did you hear the idea ?

Speaker 1 (25:43):
if that's what he gonna give us from here on out,
it's gonna be it's gonna be alittle shaky.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
It to be a little shaky, I'll tell you who did go
crazy on that bitch.
Future, though, yeah, hey, Idon't know If you are of a
certain age, maybe what's about25-ish, 25-ish or 30 to that
area, Future has to be y'allGOAT Like Future has to be y'all

(26:12):
GOAT Like future has to be.
That guy like I mean I was lateto future Like I mean, of
course, racks on racks and shit.
I heard him.
I didn't really start fuckingwith him until 56 Nights, though
.
That's when I was like, oh,I've been missing a little, A
little bit of it.
I've been missing.
You know what I'm saying?
What was we talking about?

(26:35):
A little technical differenceand we back and we bike, we bike
you were talking about.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
You were talking about Future being that goat.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
He's a goat, I don't even yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
We were talking about 56 Nights, that's when you had
caught on.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I was late to the party but I I remember Shout out
to LJ.
I remember LJ and niggas likethat being like Girl.
You don't fuck with him.
I'm like Nah, not really, justnot for me.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
It was like Gucci man .

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I.
I've never really been a Guccifan, though.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I caught on late to Gucci.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Cause the first song I played when my son was born
was on there.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
And that wasn't.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
That wasn't.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I'm a person who liked the later years of just
versus the stuffy sounding Gucci.
I mean, it was cool, it had itsbops Too well decked.
Yeah, that wasn't really mine.
I remember I used to argue withGlove about Gucci being.
Because Gucci is his guy,that's like his number one.
You know what I'm saying?
Gucci and Ross, that's who hefuck with more than anybody.

(27:46):
So I remember going back andforth with him.
He just never really was my guy.
Before we get off the PlayboyCardi album fully, though, yeah.
It's been proved he used AI on afew tracks.
Terrible, first of all, forwhat you're doing.
It's not like you're like.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
If the AI wrote, rolling on my wrist.
If the AI, if the AI wrote.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
If the AI did that.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah.
It's not like you really neededAI, well, well, but yeah, he
out here, juking streamers Showit, show it, show it.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Let's not forget he brought a at Rolling Loud.
He brought a Casanato stagewith him.
That was wild Dude is he's hugePaul.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yes, dude is like the new fucking superstar bro.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, nah, him, I Show Speed.
There's a few of them,streamers, who get into places
like how you get there just fromtalking on camera?
We working on it, but when youcommand them views they
motherfuckers trying to, theytrying to monetize them views.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, that's keeping attention for hours though.
Them nigg man them views.
Mhm, they motherfuckers tryingto?

Speaker 2 (29:11):
they trying to monetize them views.
Yeah, that's keeping attentionfor hours, though them niggas be
streaming for like hours.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
That's why when people like do short, they try
to do short.
What is it short?
Short content like yeah shortform yeah bruh, it don't matter,
whatever them people, whateverwhatever community you amass bro
whatever they fucking with,that's what you got to ride with
you see what I'm saying.
So, like I mean, this is the onethat's going around, so I'm

(29:41):
going to use it, the exampleLike 106 and Park yeah, we used
to run home to see that shit.
You see what I'm saying.
And then come the next day,shit, shit, nigga.
I remember rap city in thebasement.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Uh, see this world um , what's my dude hits from the
streets, yeah um, who else wehave?

Speaker 1 (30:00):
uh shit, if you was really in the music,
motherfucker, you went to TRL.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, I'm about to say we had MTV TRL yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
MTV jams in the morning before school.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
And we had the box.
Did y'all ever look at the box?
Yeah, yeah yeah.
I ain't no cuss.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
My daddy graduated in 89.
I'm getting all that shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is it my ass beat for fuckingup tables?

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Hey, I started starting up my collection of
ordering CDs and shit, so I wentand ordered 400 Degrees.
I got Mystical, unpredictable,and I'm looking for Ghetto Dope.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I can't find Ghetto Dope, though I wonder if they're
going to be original.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
See, that's what I'm.
I'm ordering some from Amazon.
I've seen some from Amazon.
Some of them say new and thenused.
So I've been ordering the new.
So when they get here,hopefully I want them in plastic
Reprints, I want them inplastic.
I don't care, I mean they'regoing to be reprinted.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
You know what I'm saying?
It ain't going to be a Buckley,you're going to get a sleeve.
Nah, I don't need all thatYou're going to get a sleeve
with just a picture of.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Al McGovern, Just on the front of that bitch.
That's all we got cuz.
Open it up, it's going to beblank.
I just been printing thesemotherfuckers off for people man
Today, allegedly.
Now I just been reading seeingwhat's up.
But UMG have filed to get thelawsuit dismissed against them

(31:36):
from Drake and everybody else,right.
So I've been reading some ofthe shit that's in the paper,
though they're pretty muchcalling him a bitch, like they
pretty much called drink a bitch.
It's one part in there sayingyou were the one, or say he was,
he was the one commandingkendrick to drop, drop right.

(31:59):
That's what it say.
And then it says he also usedan ai voice of tupac telling
kendrick duckworth to talk abouthim liking young girls.
And then they put the lyrics inthere and it's like they just
going back and forth like thisis what you did.
This is what you did.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
And then this is what he did.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Response to you.
You know what I'm saying.
Like, I'm just reading throughit a little bit.
It's a lot.
I ain't read the whole thingyet, but just skimming through
some of what people have posted.
They like nah, fam, we notabout to let this go.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Okay, let's say the matter's resolved.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Drake's big enough to go solo or independent.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, mm-hmm, I don't even understand what's his
angle of suing.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I don't understand at this point, and I don't know
anything about the industry, butat this point, why does any man
want to be underneath anybody?
A?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
label, especially when you don't and you don't
have to.
That goes into JD talking aboutindependent too.
Did you hear what he said?
Especially when you don't haveto.
That goes into JD talking aboutindependent too.
Did you hear what he said?
Jd posted online and was likewhy would anybody want to be
independent?
Y'all are looking to get thesame thing that people get when
they're signed.
So why would you want to beindependent, but like from JD?

(33:34):
That seemed like a stupidquestion, because you, you
should understand of all people.
Why would somebody want to beindependent?
But like from jd?
That seemed like a a stupidquestion, because you, you
should understand of all people.
Why would somebody want to be?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
independent.
First off, I own my shit, yeah,but say who is uh?
Does he have a parent come?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
who jd.
I don't actually I don't knowhow jd is working right now,
because that's the one of thethings he rebuttaled and was
like I know people with majordeals who own all their stuff
and can move how they want.
There's not many, thoughthere's only a few, that can
move like that.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Like the Jell-O ball.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Like Jell-O, I mean he doing his thing.
But at this point it don't evenreally have to be at this point
.
When Drake was offered that 400million, At that time he could
have went solo.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Alright, I put it like this, cause I don't know
nothing about that shit, but Iknow us.
We are working independent.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Right now.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Shit is tough.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
It's a grind.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
So, and we doing it with the little bit that we got.
So I can only imagine amotherfucker grinding up.
And okay, let's say we grind upto the point to where we do
have 100,000 to break.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, In two.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Nigga, I'm going to feel good about that.
It's going to be amazing,because nobody feel good about
that.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
It's going to be amazing, because nobody give me
that 50.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
It's going to be amazing, but we grinding from
the bottom right now.
Yeah, drake going independent.
Right now.
He's Drake already.
His name has already amassedanything you can think of.
So if he split ways from hisparent company and just put out
a Drake OVO sound, I'm droppinga new album.

(35:15):
You can only get it from here,people doing that.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
My next question would be would he be able to
fight against the Tide then?
Like, do he have enough toreally go against?
You know what I'm saying?
Because at that point does hehave the same relationships?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
so what I think?
What, what?

Speaker 1 (35:40):
what I think what would have to happen with drake
is he would have to stopworrying about numbers so much
you know what that's understood,but what I was trying to say
was that he had the samerelationship with these venues
as the major labels do, becauseeven, like you said, you might

(36:00):
not be we in Knoxville,tennessee, just as a reference
point, but you might not be ableto sell out Thompson Bowling
Arena Mm-hmm, but you for damnsure can sell out the Civic.
Nah, the Civic Auditorium.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
That's bigger than the B.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotyou, I got you, I got you.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Now would that fuck with his ego, though.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
That's the problem.
I think it would, but at thispoint, when it comes to touring,
you already, drake.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
So, if I yeah, but you ain't doing no clubs Like
the Malibu.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
No, no, no, no, no.
That's not what I'm saying, butyour name is already your name
when a venue might be able tosay Okay, we think you can Do
that, but can you make more?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
money than the label can pay them.
Your name, where a venue mightbe able to say okay, we think
you can do that, but can youmake more money than the label
can pay them?
That's what that's going inintertwining.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Well, I don't.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I don't know how that will work because at that point
, if, if a motherfucker can'tmake money off of you, they
won't, they gonna try toshortstop you.
Yeah, I mean, I'm just thinkingabout, I'm just thinking about
the street, mother, you ain'tcopper from from this nigga, no
more, and he know it.
A nigga gonna try to throw dirton your name to where you can't
go.
Cop from Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, but what I'm saying is he still have his fan
base where, okay, if he does 50%of the numbers that he usually
do, he's still pulling in enoughfor.
But that's why I said he wouldhave to stop worrying about
numbers Because maybe he wouldnever hit a number one again.

(37:41):
But you'll be all right.
When Nip wasn't even Nip thatwe know and loved by the end of
his life, he sold Crenshaw for$100.
The end of his life he wasselling.
He sold Crenshaw for $100.
There's people out here rightnow selling albums for $100.
The people that we don't even.
You know what I'm saying.
You have to just get now.

(38:02):
You just have to be like shit.
I'm Drake, I'm not.
I'm not that nigga.
I'm not Champagne Papi, no more.
I'm Drake.
I don't make $100 million ayear made.
I made 35 you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
You know, champagne poppy, the spritzer pop I'm
drake.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Hey, how you doing now you gotta, you, wouldn't I?
Don't think it ever get to thatI don't think it will, but, but
now you and chubbs gotta go outthere and really hustle.
But it's an easier hustle foryou though, because you still
have became Drake, nah, I get it, I get it.
Only thing is that boogeyman'sstill out there See.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Drake.
But yeah, I didn't understand.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Excuse me, I didn't understand.
Excuse me, I didn't understandJD asking why would people want
to be independent?
Like it, just like.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
I don't want to owe a nigga.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
I don't want to.
Yeah, maybe from y'all, but thething is like everybody calling
Tory Lanez album a flop, right.
His new album, right.
I don't know how much money hesold.
Let's say he sold 50,000 in oneweek.
For an independent person, anigga from jail, that's fucking

(39:22):
amazing.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
And I didn't spend nothing on it.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I rapped over the phone Okay, call me back.
I got two minutes.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Hey man, they having a riot.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
You know what I'm saying 50,000 for an independent
artist Is fucking insane.
Speaking of jail.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Do you think that R Kelly Residual Was real?
I do.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I do too.
I do and I fucked with it andI'm about to say I'm not gonna
lie.
I said man, that nigga don'tmiss.
I was talking to my wife aboutit.
I was talking to my wife.
I said that nigga still R Kelly.
Like fuck him, lock him up,throw away the key, but that
nigga still R Kelly, that niggastill chaos.

(40:05):
Man, what did the nigga say?

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Who's taking out?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
He want to know where his residuals is.
You know what I'm saying?
Y'all making money off thisnigga.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Y'all taking music.
Y'all ain't putting on hisbooks.
Took the money off his books.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Now we can say what we want and ain't nobody listen
to him.
Somebody still listen to himbecause the label still got him
on platforms.
Something's coming in for thatnigga.
Step, step side to side.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
I think I just said last five.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
I'm just saying so somebody taking him.
A nigga still kill.
I was riding around listeningto Kells with my son.
I was like you know what?
I think I should turn this offbecause I'm supposed to show you
a better Look.
I'm telling my son.
I was like you know what?
I think I should turn this offbecause I'm supposed to show you
a better Look.
I'm telling my son.
I said I'm supposed to show youbetter than this, because if a
nigga doing crazy shit like this, you ain't supposed to listen

(40:59):
to him.
I said but before I turn it off, though, listen to this though
and tell me this shit.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
If you pull everybody's skeletons out.
You probably ain't listening tonobody.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
That's facts.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
But it's.
There's some gospel singers outhere that.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
But like I told my son though it's different,
because with the other peopleit's alleged, so you still can
stand on.
Maybe it didn't happen, maybeit did, we don't know but
there's a video of this.
I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
I ain't talking about that.
I'm talking about what heactually went to jail.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I don't know what the is going on, but nah, fuck that
nigga.
Though it was R Kelly, thoughhe was the R.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
He was the R the.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Pied Piper, whoa hey yo why people didn't get that.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Didn't he still get?
Hey, fuck it, he's jamming he'spopping off right now.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
He's jamming and you know what's crazy about that?
Cause people wanna now say theydon't fuck with what he did,
because he's in jail for it.
Right, chappelle was makingjokes about it.
Everybody knew, everybody knewthe videotape was being sold on
fucking bodegas in New York,nigga.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
They probably bypassed it because they was,
some of them, niggas at the highschool Because they know niggas
and they was the niggas who?

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Ain't it my dude, when it?

Speaker 1 (42:40):
came out.
I was still a kid, I was LL.
When he did Damn.
What's the name of the song?
I told you I'd be true, butTina got a big old butt.
So I'm leaving.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
So I'm leaving you.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
What'd he say?
I can't think of it right nowbecause I'm wanting to say it,
but he said Honey was still inhigh school.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah, we can go back to a lot of those songs.
Public Enemy Got Some Shit.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Beastie Boys.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Beastie Boys Got Some Shit.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
KRS-One.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
KRS-One Aaron Hoff.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
I grabbed that bitch by the hand.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
And I took her upstairs.
It's only funny because me andmy wife was talking about
mystical the other day.
Right, and mystical is mystical.
That's your favorite rapper.
That nigga said.
I came in with my dick in myhand.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Be cool.
What'd he say?
Don't worry about what.
That's just what I do.
Don't worry about how I'mgripping, how I'm Whoa.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
And in another song he say he say I'm the thief in
the night that's gonna slide thedrawers off you.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Are y'all married?
Because if not, that's rapefella, that is rape what's?

Speaker 2 (44:19):
going on.
He said he got a song on thetarantula.
If I hit you one time, you hook.
They call me the pussy crook.
Oh Whoa, I said damn, I'm inthere like.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
He's been telling on himself for a long time.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
That's what I'm saying when you brought up R
Kelly, I'm like damn nigga.
We was listening to Mysticaltoo.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Damn that nigga have been the perv His whole career.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Mystical, made me want to rap.
That's the person who made mewant to get into rapping.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
You can talk like this Boy.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
These niggas crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Let's get away from that a little bit.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Get away from that a little bit.
My favorite rapper is.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, who your favorite rapper?
We can break it down.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
My favorite rapper is an instrumentalist.
Right now, with my dude theyspell say Doodly doodly, doodly,
doodly.
What you think about that bigcrit in Bubba Sparks song before
we get into anything else, man,I already heard the snippet,
but you know, crit, my dude, Ididn't even know Bubba Sparks
was on there.

(45:37):
I just seen it on Big.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Crit and Crit.
It's Bubba's song.
I watched the video the otherday.
I didn't know it.
Is it good?
It's not bad?
Yeah, I mean, bubba Sparks isBubba.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Sparks.
He's never been like that guy,but wasn't bad.
I'm here now.
I must improve.
What bad man.
All right, I got to check itout.
I told you, bro, I listen to.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Playboy Cardi.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, these last, you know, you know what's been
going on.
Yeah, yeah yeah, I ain't reallybeen listening to too much of
nothing, bro.
I've been trying to keep upwith, I guess, the day-to-day in
rap.
But I just seen what Dolce saidand I took it as face value

(46:28):
because, like I told one of mybrothers, I was like I didn't
looking at that, I'm not putting, I'm not correlating that to
her song.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
What song the gay dude?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
So when she talking about straight men being a red
flag you know me being astraight man I took offense to
it.
But, like I said, I didn'tcorrelate it to the song and
maybe that was a joke betweenher and her friend.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I did.
First hearing it, you're likedamn that kind of.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
That's why I said that face yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then you hey preference.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
It is what you like.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
That's what I'm saying.
Man Preference it is what youlike, that's what I'm saying,
man.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Whatever you like Is what you like.
I can't help that yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Elevator Bites is still a good, great album
Project.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
UMG said Facts and criticism Concerning Drake's
relationship With minors PredateNot Like Us and have been
widely reported.
Nothing that Lamar is including, nothing that Pretty much is
not new.
They said rumors andspeculations around his

(47:42):
misbehavior around minors andthat of Millie Bobby Brown is
one of the things that mostpeople are aware when it comes
to Drake and the rumors aroundhim.
She talked about texting withDrake on the red carpet.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
That was crazy.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
When she was, you know, A minor.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
That's fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
If this is real paperwork, umg fucking own some
shit Cause, he said.
She said she talked about himtexting Drake when, you know she
was A minor and then when shewas like so what do you and
Drake text about?
Oh, I'll keep that in themessages.

(48:30):
Why, what the fuck is going on.
It was like so what do you andDrake text about?
Oh, I'll keep that in themessages.
Why, what the fuck is going on?

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah, like this haircut or this haircut.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Oh, anyway, anyway, what else we got.
I have nothing else, so what'sup?

Speaker 1 (48:46):
I'm getting a camo.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Album of the week sirs madams is from Camp Low.
Album of the week sirs madamsis from Camp Low, a New York rap
duo.
This album comes from 1997.
It is called Uptown SaturdayNight.
It was their debut album.
The singles from it is Luchini,which was their biggest song,

(49:13):
biggest biggest song.
That was dropped in 96.
And that's crazy because cooleyhigh was another single.
It was dropped in 95 but thealbum didn't come out to 97 okay
, then it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
All right, it makes total sense go ahead, what's up?
No, because I'm listening tothis shit.
I'm like bro, this is 97 yeah,it sounds.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
It's.
Some of it sounded dated, bro.
It sounded like it came out inlike 94.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, shit,I'm like bro, this is 97 yeah,
it sounds it's.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Some of it sounded dated, bro.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
It sounded like it came out in like 94 yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah and I'm likethis couldn't have so that
coolie hot came out in august of95, lucini came out in october
of 96.
They were signed with arista,so I'm guessing there had to be
some type of had to be had to besome uh label work.
Working on this was uh 15, 15songs, uh.

(49:57):
It did debut at number 27 onthe U S uh billboard 200.
And then on the top R and B andhip hop albums it dropped at
number five, um.
So I mean it has some goodreception to it which was mainly
due to Luchini.
Like Luchini was back then itwas like a, it was like an

(50:23):
outcast vibe-ish.
At least the look of it was.
You know what I'm saying, notnecessarily the sound of it you
said they was go ahead.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
I'm sorry, you said they was go ahead.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
I'm sorry, nah, you go ahead Nah you said they was
in Aristan.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, they was signed to Aristan.
No wonder they was pushbackyeah.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Whitney Houston, santana, tlc Monica yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
That's just a few of them.
Now that I was about to say, itseemed like that one song got
so big but they couldn't matchthat height.
But if you are a sign to us andwe got these people and your
song did cool, but it ain't.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
We got other shit that we it didn't curl all the
way, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
So even that kind of make a lot of sense.
Each song was produced by Jocko.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Jocko, don't know, jocko, but he a part of the
group.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Well, one of the songs was produced by him and
the rest of they wording thiswrong.
Anyway, the album had 15 songs.
Some of my favorite tracks onhere was Luchini.
Of course I like Negro League,and then I like B-Side to
Hollywood and then I did likeCooley High.

(51:43):
Those are like my four go-toson there, yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, I think mine are the same, because I could
not get down with it.
What made me feel like thisshit was so outdated was rocking
it, aka Spanish Army.
Yeah, I was like what.
I had to go back and look atthis album credits, bro, to see
what year it came out.
I was like nigga did we justcome out of?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Like what's going on right here, yeah?

Speaker 1 (52:16):
But once again, this came out two years prior.
It was supposed to come outmaybe in 95, so they probably
recorded this in like 93, 94.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
It say recorded between 94 and 96.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
And then released in 97.
Yeah, so that got to suck yousitting on an album and then it
kind of you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
That shit did not age well, bro, nah, like outside of
Luchini.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
And Luchini is just nostalgia feel I'm going to say
boom.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
I really feel like it's just a production bro.
And maybe the video, because Ido remember the video.
Yeah, but that's one of myfavorite songs.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
And that's why I say they give that kind of.
At that time it was like anoutcast look.
I mean not that they didn'tsound like outcast, but that
whole vibe of Southernplayalistic type shit.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
You know what I'm saying Especially, but, bro, I
don't know the two artists'names and I should have did more
.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
You got them Sonny Chiba and Geechee Suede.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Yeah, is that the one ?
So, but Chiba, why?
If he would have kept thatsound, bro, it wouldn't have
lasted.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Yeah, yeah, Now the other one, I feel like he was
trying to change it up but dudeonly had one style throughout
the whole album.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I think listening to it now, I don't know what they
was trying to do, but it seemedlike they should have focused
more on a core fan base andmaybe that's what they was
trying to do, but Luchini justgot too big and they couldn't
just keep up with it.
And they couldn't keep up withit.
You know I'm saying so.

(53:56):
Maybe at some point they wastrying to follow that.
But you try one of the rappersfrom try.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
He was on um uh b uh, the hollywood song yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I'mwearing trip.
Uh, I knew her yeah yeah, yeah,but I didn't.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
And then they and it kind of their second album,
which, kind of going to what Iwas saying, their second album
was called let's Do it Again,where it's like and maybe y'all
titled it that for a differentreason I couldn't find it on
DSPs to listen to it, but itkind of give that vibe of like I
find it on DSPs to listen to it, but it kind of give that vibe
of like I feel this hey, let'slet's try that one more time but
it wasn't even that.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
It was like well, what I was getting from it, even
from the whole aesthetic of thealbum and the videos and shit,
was it was like they were tryingto capture that 70s feel.
Yeah, this is what we think iscool and about it.
Yeah, hence the album.

(54:57):
The album, uh, art for thisalbum, yeah, uh, and then let's
do it again.
Title that was a like, let's doit again.
I instantly think of, uh, yourman's, bill kyle's, being uh,
they call me mr ted you knowwhat I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
What's his name?
Yeah, please.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
No movie have you seen?
Let's do it again.
What's the black man name from?

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I've never seen this I've never seen raising in the
sun damn it.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
I'm sorry, I'm I'm sorry that's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
I'm gonna pick a movie every week and watch it
and try to come in and be like,oh, I finally sound found some
movies that people say I shouldhave been watching boom, sydney
48.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
My bad, ah, okay, they call me mr tibbs.
You don't even know who it isanyway, but I, like I said, man,
I feel like that was probablycaught up in nostalgia, like we
could rap, we sound different,but this is what we want to rap
about and this is the feel wegoing for.

(55:59):
I feel like they totally missedthe mark outside of Luchini.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Rob Markman, that's my only thing about it.
I don't think they could pullit off like a Southern player.
You know what I'm saying?
There's other people who'stried to do that.
That's put it off way betterthan yeah.
Yeah, Because once they startrapping, they too rapidly rap
for that style.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
And your boy, kind of like Maybe it was me, but I was
hearing a lot of Recycle shitin it.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Especially like you could tell when niggas.
I guess this was the timeperiod when you had to keep
Saying your name Over and over.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Yeah, I let people Know who you was Cause.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
That was kinda Killing the vibe for me, cause I
was like Is he talking aboutOne of the homeboys In the crew,
or?

Speaker 2 (56:43):
is this how he talk?

Speaker 1 (56:43):
about it, cause I like With the Cheeba.
What's up, mr Che?
Who is this Chibu guy?
I gotta know who this is?
Yeah, cause I can't read thesong.
Critics on here.
Outside of what year it wasmade, who the composers are and
producers.
But you know back in the dayyou could slap that bitch over.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
And see what that yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Oh, dude, wrote the whole verse Okay.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
And then when you look up anything Like their
second album and shit like that,you can't, I mean you can find
like this is as much as I findon the second album and that's
that's it that's why, when youbought the album, back in the
day.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
You did, you said it, told you, yeah, you said it
like that's why, back in the day, when you bought the album,
that was so important, yeah,cause that's when motherfuckers
knew like I ain't damn who madethe beat.
Damn black child, who the fuckis black child?
Yeah, and then you, like youstart going back to different
shit, like, oh, he producedsomebody from new york.

(57:44):
Well, let me see, yeah, he yeahoh, this nigga everywhere nigga
.
Chris Webber did this.
Daddy, you knew Chris Webberplayed basketball and music and
do music like that type of shit,but niggas ain't doing the shit
.
Else, if a motherfucker don'tput they tag in the beat, you

(58:06):
don't know the producer and then9 times out of 10 if they a
newer act.
You ain't gonna know the rapper,right right, cause everybody
sound the same.
At least back in the day it waslike nah, that nah newer.
Hey, you ain't gonna know therapper Because everybody sound
the same.
At least back in the day it waslike nah, that ain't ABC,
that's.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Criss Cross.
They wear their clothes back,you see what I'm saying.
So what you get?

Speaker 1 (58:27):
is the what this album.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
I'm gonna give it a two.
That's what I got.
I was about to say Outside ofof lucini is actually a hard
listen did you like the remix atthe very end?

Speaker 1 (58:39):
I didn't need it.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
I didn't need it because I was like bro, this is
not a better version yeah whaty'all got so one thing about
remixes back in the day whichthey don't do a lot now, which
is cool they just used to put abeat on top of a song, like they
just change the beat and saythat's the remix.
No, sometimes, I mean,sometimes you get the verse,
other verses and shit, but likea lot of times it's just like,
yeah, just throw the remix atthe end.

(59:02):
Yeah, not needed at all At all.
You know what I'm saying.
But outside of Luchini andCooley High, I like C.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
It's a hard listen.
Like it's like A tough listen.
I can't take too many CheebaWatt.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
The production is cool, but I don't.
From this first album.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
I honestly Don't think they could've Did anything
else, did they show the numbersOf how many they sold?

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Let's see, honestly, with something like this, that
you can't find so much on.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Nah, that's why that's what I'm asking.
That's crazy that they evenmade it to a second album Not to
say it like that, but they saidthey said the album was
independent, though.
It wasn't under.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Arista so.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Talent is talent.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
I ain't knocking nobody, they made it no, I don't
see no album sales at all shit,they probably got dropped after
this.
Yeah, I mean obviously yeah,obviously yeah.
But I, like I said, I get analbum or two.
I think they could have focusedon like a core bass and just

(01:00:17):
being okay with that.
But that Luchini song got sobig it's like I think that could
have been hard to follow.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
I think it would have been a better project if it was
dropped when it was supposed tobe dropped.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
And then go from and see what happened from there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yeah, even then I think that would have been tough
because, like it, is 94 it iscertified gold.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
It says it sold over 500 000.
Don't have a for sure number,but it do say it did sell over
500 000 to be a gold album.
Though that's, that'sespecially back then for them.
Yeah, that's, that's gravy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
But I mean even for like, let's say it was supposed
to drop in 94.
You still coming off of likenwa?
Yeah, uh, uh, uh, uh, excuse me, uh, the chronic I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I'm about to say the West Coast in that era was on
another run.
You had Pac and everybody.
That's why I'm naming them,Because that's hard to do.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
The only motherfucker that was coming out of the East
was maybe Biggie At that time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Yeah, because Jay was when did.
Wu-tang drop.
Wu-tang was 92.
92.
I think so.
Yeah, because Jay was.
When did Wu-Tang drop Wu-Tang?

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
was 92?
, 92?
, I think.
So I'm on it then, because I'mlike bro, that's fucking hard to
do.
I understand why I was pushed,but it shouldn't have been
pushed two years yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I mean, and the reason I'm bringing that up.
I think that would have made awhole hell of a lot of a
difference.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
So let me ask you this If that, when did Southern
kind of that's 90.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
They did Beamer and Benz.
What is it?
Beamer and Benz or New JerseyDrive soundtrack before they did
Southern Player Listed.
Southern Player Listed was aChristmas song.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Then they had to come up with that, because you know
back then if you look or didanything like anybody else
nowadays it's cool to be likeI'm going to do what they do.
You know what I'm saying.
But back then if we saw OutKastlike that first a duo 94.
94.

(01:02:33):
If we saw OutKast two folkswith that kind of style we might
not even look at y'all like weeven care about what y'all got
going on, because back then youcan't really just copy another
nigga, not saying that they was,but that's what I got from them
.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That whole aesthetic.

(01:02:54):
You know what I'm saying?
That whole aesthetic.
Maybe they just couldn't donothing with them, with them
trying to do that.
They didn't have the swag forthat either, though, except for
on that one song.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
No, I get that.
I get that, but that's hard tosay because outside of a
motherfucker having a DJ, it's alot of two-man groups.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Mm-mm.
Not a lot of two-man groups.
Mm-mm, not a lot of two-mangroups with that 70s swag.
Okay, outkast had that on theirfirst album.
Now their second album theystarted to go a different way,
but on their first album theyhad that.
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Yeah, yeah, like the inspiration you know what I'm
saying.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
So it kind of I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
But At the same time Everybody kind of did, because
the chronic Doggy style, allthat's George Clinton and
fucking Dexter Wanzel and them,that's the same.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Yeah, but it's a different Pick of the litter of
it though.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Yeah, with the vibe, okay yeah you know what I'm
saying?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Yeah, that's all I got you.
But yeah, yeah, that's all Igot you, I got you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
But either way, I guess I'm trying to save him.
I guess I no, no hold on, Holdon cuz.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Come here, Maybe we can get him to a two, five bro.
I give it an album or two.
I mean they got a couple ofgood songs on there, but overall
it's really a hard listenthough Listening to it.
They too rapidly, Like I said,and I don't know if that makes
sense, but to me they toorapidly rap For that kind of

(01:04:18):
swag that they was trying to do.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
It ain't no, akeem Ali.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
You know what I'm saying?
That?

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
nigga is Embodying all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Player 70, shit Indeed.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
You see what I'm saying, so it's all about how
you go about it In that flow.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Yeah, so it's all about how you go about it in
that flow.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Yeah, because you can get in that same vein, but shit
might not be hitting like dope,you feel me.
Yeah, but yeah it's a two, myalbum going to be Legal Drug
Money.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Legal Drug Money from the Lost Boys.
What year was that?
96.
We're going back.
Baby, yeah, baby, let's go.
Next week we'll be on the LostBoys Legal Drug Money.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
I'm sold.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
I know that's Mr Cheeks and not the Lost.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Boys Mr Cheeks.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
I thought he was going to be on the run.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Everybody did.
I remember I was working at themall chopping my sandwiches up.
I seen that nigga walk by.
Ain't nobody say nothing to him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
That's how they did Young Jop.
When he came to our school, mycousin said hey, look at Young
Jop's fat ass.
Oh, damn Damn, he walked intoschool.
Like you know, he was asuperstar bro this one he had
just came out, bro.
You know he was on his littlerun.

(01:05:45):
I don't know if this was apromo tour or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
You know, everybody used to hit up Tico's and they
came to the school.
We, the only black school inthe town.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Yo yo, yo yo, you're not the only black school in the
town.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Predominantly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
They are, they was, they are.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
You on the north side , bro, they are.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
So, yeah, anything else before we jump out of here
Any plans for the week?
We will be on time next week,yeah, yeah, yeah, anything else
before we jump out of here Anyplans for the week?
We will be on time next week,yeah, yeah, yeah, we will be on
time next week.
We moving a little different.
I'm able to eat now.
Shit just hit, bro, it's life.
Life boy, I'm trying to tellyou Life, be life you back on
your, your bowl size or foodbowl size.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Nah nigga I, Full-size or full-size.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Nah, nigga.
I bought me some chicken saladthe other day right From Chicken
Salad Chick.
They told me to start with 1.5ounces.
Amazing, Teach me Shit.
It's like it, cuz I ain't eveneat all that.
Got food in the motherfuckerI'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
That's your food right there, ain't it Pretty?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
much, yeah, I mean, I've been able to eat a little
bit, but I still can't eat like.
I can't eat no bread or nothinglike that right now, so it's
like chicken salad.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
You go to the doctor, you say hey, man, have you had
a bowel movement?
I've been pissing in my ass.
Pissed in my ass, they're likewhat?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Yeah, but nah, you gotta eat.
I'm cooling, though I'm aboutto get back to work, so I'm
straight, I'm loving it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
I ain't gonna lie, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
I be halfway through the week, motherfucker, you know
what I?

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
mean Sunday, come I be like man.
I can't wait to go back to work.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Yeah, but I'm back though.
But yeah, we'll be back on timenext week.
Late to the party.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Like, share and subscribe.
Subscribe.
Come on man, we on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
We really everywhere.
We just trying to figure it out.
This is why I start tounderstand why a podcast got a
fucking team of shit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Because people do certain things.
You do this.
I don't know how to manipulatethe algorithm like that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
I be trying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
I ain't counting, I be seeing where it's like you're
real has done 15 hits.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
I'm like more we moving Because I got the big
lights hey, niggas like you fromthe fall.
Oh, I got the video, yeah.
Hey, niggas like you from thefall.
Oh yeah, yeah, that's cool.
That be the thing too.
It's like you get some.
You don't really get thesubscribers and shit and the
followers, but the numbers belike.
Because, when I do, because,like even on my barber page, on

(01:08:29):
my YouTube, the numbers belooking good, be like, but where
are the subscribers?

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Nah, it's good Cause.
I can't wait for a motherfuckerto be like.
Let me see your Instagram bitchand look at the YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
We about to start popping, though we just working.
Yeah, fuck with me, get with mecuz.
Come on now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, we gonna get there, man.
Y'all help us man, and we'llhelp y'all by being more
consistent.
I can't do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
No, no, weird shit though we're going to get there,
man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Y'all help us, man, and we'll help y'all by being
more consistent.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
I can't do no weird shit though.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Everybody's like me.
Maybe you should do it, nigga.
No, what, though?
What do we need to do, though?
I don't know, maybe I got toRKO your ass through the table
one time.
They be like damn, that's goingviral For real.
Hey, man, shout out to theStreet.
Profits man.
The only black tag team in WWE.
Bro, they won.
It's really my classmatehusband and his partner.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
So when I saw John Cena turn heel right, I was like
this made me want to get backinto wrestling.
I ain't watch nothing.
I can't do it.
I only watch it because ofBianca Belair.
Oh yeah, shout out to BiancaKnoxville baby, hometown hero.
Yes, sir Come on, that's it.
That's it.
That's all it is.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Yeah, suplex that bitch, my club man Right there.
Yeah, I hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
But you don't, though I do.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
He don't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Don't make me y'all.
Man, thank y'all for listeningto another episode of Late to
the Party with Doty and Reggieand continue listening.
Man, I am Reggie, I'm Doty Actlike you know me, act like you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
We'll be back, that's one of them chronic jokes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
We'll be bad.
That's one of them chronicles.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
It will be bad, consistently Come on man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Consistently.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
My balls don't be moving.