Shake A Hand, Make A Friend

Reggie and Dody explore the unexpected origins of iconic hip-hop sounds, discovering Art of Noise's 1984 track "Moments in Love" as one of the blackest-sounding songs not made by Black artists. The duo brings their signature wit and expertise to dive deep into hip-hop culture across generations.

• Art of Noise's "Moments in Love" has been sampled countless times in hip-hop despite being created by non-Black artists
• Drake's friend Baka Not Nice speaks out about his initial reaction to Kendrick's accusations and drake's advice to him
• The Game and Kanye West's friendship falls apart over an Instagram post supporting Drake's associate
• Billboard's top 25 female rappers list sparks debate about longevity versus impact, especially regarding Lauryn Hill's ranking
• Evaluating classic posse cuts in hip-hop history with discussion on regional biases in these selections
• 2 Chainz's debut album "Based on a T.R.U. Story" gets a 3.5/5 rating for balancing street credibility with commercial appeal

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's the only thing , because.
But we're going to get there,yeah, we're going to get there
and we're back, and we're here.
Back to regular scheduleprogramming.
Welcome to another episode ofLate to the Party with Doty and
Reggie.
I am Reggie.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I am Doty.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm sorry, bro, we're WrestleMania I was about to say
so you was on some.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
My bad.
I'm Doty, my bad.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
And we back.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I think we are on Like that nigga's like
everything.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
You know you gotta mix it up.
Episode 45 is where we aretoday.
Okay, so we moving.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
You want me to return ?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
We don't like to.
He don't have to be brought up,he don't.
Yeah, before we get started, Ijust got one question, though.
Right, what is one of theblackest sounding songs not made
by a black person?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Oh, what's my dude name?
Who I saw, damn.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Come on now.
Is his name Billy Caldwell?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
No, you're talking about Billy Ocean?
No, I'm not who you talkingabout.
What is wrong with me?
Dude for love, that's where Igot it from.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, see, yeah, I didn't think about that one, so
it was a question.
It was a question that came upand somebody said this answer
right, I'm going to play thesound.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Is it KC?
No?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
But see, I was going like Hall and Oates.
You know what I'm saying.
That's where I was going.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Is it your boy?
What's his name?
I can't think of it.
I'm having a brain fart.
See, now I know how they feelon game shows when you put on
the spot you be like no, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute, but see.
So I forgot where I heard it.
Oh, I probably seen it onTikTok, right, but they was
going through some of theblackest sounding songs, not
Made my Black People.
Tina Marie went on Definitely,but this one.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Is it obscure like you wouldn't think of it?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I never knew where it came from.
It's been sampled.
It's been used.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Don't say his name just play it Are you serious.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
There's no black person in this group, the white
group, not even from America.
So the group is called Art ofNoise and this song is from 84
and the song is called Momentsin Love.
I never knew where this camefrom.
That's crazy, that shit hard asfuck that shit.

(03:04):
Hard as fuck I'm.
I was saying what they looklike.
I said it's the best sample.
Everybody don't use this as theAmerica the thought to question
it that's them right there sothis is just an instrument, yeah

(03:29):
, it's just instrumental, likethe original has no words at all
.
Okay, it has no words at all,cuz no wonder is just like, and
it's it's, it's like this part.
So it's like eight minutes longtoo, so it got so many parts
that you could take from andthen break up and shit.
Yeah, so that is Art of Noiseand the song is called Moments

(03:50):
in Love.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
That is associated to A numerous that's what I'm
saying.
Amount of black kids.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
And that's what he was doing.
He was like I bet y'all neverguessed it.
You know everybody Trying tothink about it.
Then that motherfucker hit playon that.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I said well damn yeah , because I instantly went to St
Gris bro.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
But I never knew where that even came from.
I never knew where the originalsound even came from.
I got to get my CD player Putsomething in there.
What's going on, though?
We all back another week.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Slow news week in music, not a lot going on.
My brother called me and waslike hey man, this is scott
going to wrestlemania likemother fucker damn, like that's
like he got a call from oh shit.
Well, his wife did.
You know they been.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, but they cool, she was like yeah what you doing
this weekend.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
You want to go wrestle with me?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's a crazy call to get to.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
You know, she like I don't know, I guess yeah, she
like Cancel everything.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Where the fuck are we going?
I was to, but if I got that,call nigga we going what we on
the way?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Who your favorite wrestler?
Kelo Brown Nigga.
Who this nigga's?

Speaker 1 (05:16):
old.
He don't wrestle anymore, sohe's not going to be there.
Mason of domination, so theynot going to be there.
But of domination, yeah, rockstar, so they not going to be
there.
But you know where we want tostart?
I was telling you.
Well, let's go ahead and getthis out of the way.
All right, we talked about it alittle bit beforehand, but I do
want to play this sound foranybody who don't know.

(05:40):
This is Baka, not Nice Drake'sbest friend.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
So this is Baka Not Nice Drake's best friend At
first.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
my first initial thing was to respond, and he's
talking about the battle betweengreatest number one and
greatest number two, but hisname was brought up, so he's
talking about how his thoughtprocess was during that time
Responded quickly, veryefficiently and very to the

(06:10):
point, very directly, yeah, andyou know.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
But like it was like it started brewing in me because
where I come from, like thatshit doesn't happen.
Like you can't just call out aman and not have paperwork to
back up your talks, like that isludicrous, and then like to see
like a whole nation behind itand celebrating it like it's a
true story is unbelievablebecause you know, everybody has

(06:37):
to understand.
Like I have a kid, drake has akid.
You know what I mean.
So like making accusations,like that are like ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I like how they always talk about that on that
side All over this world Likethey wasn't saying shit on the
other side.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
What I was going to tell you is this why is he
throwing eggs at?

Speaker 5 (06:51):
us.
I was building up a lot ofanger and stuff like that.
But then I got a call and Idon't know why I got this call.
It's like God said something tohim or something.
But the boy sorry, it might nothave been a call, it might have
been a text message, but hemessaged me and he's like yo I
know what you're feeling.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
He didn't call my man .

Speaker 3 (07:11):
He doesn't call any of us but.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
I'm just letting you know, like, don't listen to the
noise, because it's noise If yougo back and look at all these
people that are saying things orhaving anything to say.
They're not even actual, realpeople, they're like bots.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Exactly, that's their thing too.
Don't let that shit bother youbro.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
And you know what?

Speaker 2 (07:32):
I mean, it's not a good thing, but they're calling
your name.
You know what I'm saying, andat the end of the day.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Especially about something serious.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
They're going to get over this crap because they're
going to realize that it's crapand then they're going to go do
their own research and when youdo your own research, you're
going to be like, wow, this guymade up a whole story about
something that isn't even trueand it makes you look weird to
me.
I don't know, it does.
But I want to say one thing toAmerica, and y'all need to like
get yourself together, becauseyo make it accusations on people

(08:00):
, serious accusations like that.
You need to have paperwork.
That is the rule, like numberone rule that everybody goes by,
so don't switch up.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
So what do you think about Bacchanat Nights?
Speaking on great number oneand great number two.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
First.
I've never even known this dudewas alive, like I didn't know
anything about this guy, guyDidn't know he rapped, Didn't
know he was best friends withDrake Outside of the beef.
I didn't know who this?

Speaker 1 (08:33):
guy was.
You just heard the name.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
It was like a mythical creature.
Like man Drake got this goon.
When I seen him, I'm like brohe rapped though that tough.
Like when I seen him.
I'm like bro he rap thoughthat's tough for you, I put him
in that top five category.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Oh man, you see what I'm saying so.
I mean he did 13 years forsomething I was about to say,
but this is my thing though.
He didn't I mean no, he didn'tdo all.
This is the thing, though.
Right when the Drake side ofthe beef like to talk about,

(09:12):
they like to throw a Kendrick'sline about everything right and,
like baka just said, you got tohave paperwork yeah.
Y'all also said, dude Keywasn't his Mm-hmm, it was his
homeboy child.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Y'all said he beat his wife.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Y'all said that TDE covered that up.
Mm-hmm, there's no.
There's no paper trail of thateither.
You know what I'm saying.
So it's like that's what I bethinking like.
And then they be I don't know.
They be throwing out thateverybody a bot, nigga,
everybody on the internet is nota bot.
It's a lot of them, buteverybody, not one.

(09:54):
We need some Please.
You know what I'm saying.
If y'all want to spend somemoney to bot our I don't know
man Like I said I don't reallycare Because, like, why wait
this long to say anything?
Well, you know, we at the yearmark of everything, a lot of
interviews and shit is going tostart.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Did you have to wait for your shit to clear up?
Because, if not, why would youhave all this animosity festered
up and brewing up To do this?
Yeah, and you didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
And he was saying he was ready to retaliate with a
song.
You know what I'm saying?
So Drake called you and said,hey, don't make a song.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
But All right, man, my deep dive, or it wasn't even
deep Pause.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Pause.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Like I looked him up and I was like, oh, he got 16
million views from a song 13years ago.
It was a while ago yeah, I waslike are these bots, or does he
have like 16 million listensactually?
You know, what I'm saying orviewing of this video, Because

(11:06):
I've never heard this dude outthere.
It's a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I haven't heard of that, yeah yeah, they got, they
got a problem.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
So yeah, I don't care , because it's like bro well,
that's that.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
That's my only problem, though not a problem,
not a problem, but that is mything.
And either way, who are you?
You just, but now he's thesecurity guard for drake I
thought you've been there thoughhe was a rapper at first.
Then drake probably took someof the songs and was like he was

(11:40):
ti alpha mega just be over here, cuz.
But yeah, I don't know, I justthought it was interesting.
Like you said, it has been awhile, but now you want to tell
everybody how angry you was.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
You don't even remember if you got a call or a
text or a text.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
He called me.
Wait a minute, he could havetexted.
He probably did text, what'dyou?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
say he don't call none of us.
Yeah, maybe it was a party, itwas somebody at an OVO.
Even with that bro, like thatmakes me like.
It don't make me feel a certainway, but it's just like, damn
bro, like the line in the Nokia,like when he was like is it
party?
Like why is he not in the video?
Like is it Party?
Like, why is he not in thevideo?
It's like does this nigga notreally fuck with anybody in

(12:27):
there?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
It seemed like.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
For one.
Baka's supposed to be like yourbest friend, bro.
He don't know if you calling ortexting him?
Party is led to believe thathe's having a collab album with
one of the greatest artists ofour time.
For him to just be vocals andnot sing elsewhere?
Nowhere, you see what I'msaying.
They ain't even been outtogether.

(12:50):
Top Five is doing what I guessany other person is supposed to
do within our reach of DrakeMm-hmm.
Living off the cloud.
He's like oh, y'all want aninterview.
It got to be Zoom.
I can't leave camera, but I'mwith it.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I'm saying but we can talk.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Send them rupees or them francs, whatever we can pay
, whatever they talking about.
You know what I'm saying yeah,bro, it's like how in tune are
you with your camera?
Like that is what they wouldcall a red flag.
To me, that's like bro likewhat the fuck did he just say
you don't.
That's like me saying hey, bro,when's the last time you talked

(13:32):
to reggie shit the other day?
Uh, he called me shit.
Did he text me?
Well, sometimes you forgetthings nigga did he call me.
I mean, did you, did y'all talkabout it?
Did y'all ever talk about it?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, that's a nigga thing.
Like bro, which one is it?
You know what I'm saying.
It is like the interview thatyou took.
It was just like what platformis this?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, I don't know.
Now, I don't know.
Now, I don't know how big thatplatform is.
I came across it due toacademics posting it on
Instagram and Twitter, so that'show I came across it.
Other than that, I probablywould have never seen it.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I think I seen Hot Ones Freestyle.
I said oh damn, the chickenwings.
The chicken Freestyle theyrapping.
That's the first thing I said.
No, this ain't it.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I don't see the chicken or the flames.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
So it threw me off, bro.
And then I was like the dudethat was interviewing him, shout
out to him.
But I was just like I don'trecognize him.
So it was like, if this was abig thing to you, why take it
here?
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Because nobody else wants to talk to him Now.
I don't know how that situationis he?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
wasn't in Australia.
He said that in the interview.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Oh that he wasn't.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, that'sright yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Nigga what's going on .
Where you can't leave Canada,you can't go to Australia.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Maybe just not invited.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
He was like they many visitors I wonder if I have
have anybody heard any new datesfor the drink concerts out
there that was canceled.
I ain't seen no new dates forit yet.
I wonder.
I guess that no, there's nokeel popping though he ain't,
but uh, that's what I wasthinking about with.

(15:20):
Uh.
We talked about party night'sDoor not being in the video.
They haven't been advertisingit together whatsoever, even
when there's posts about it,it's just Drake by himself with
the dollar signs and shit.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Go get the album man.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Go get the album.
There's no key on the album.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
I don't need it, I'm good.
Go get it, baby girl.
Oh, we was talking about Wayne.
We was talking about Wayne.
We was talking about Wayne.
You can pre-order the album now.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
I ain't pre-ordering shit, I pre-ordered it.
What are you going to learn,dog?

Speaker 1 (15:56):
I pre-ordered it, so they said everything will ship
out June 6th.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Ship from where.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
That I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Because if it ain't coming from Detroit, multi.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
But they say, everything ship out June 6th.
Also Thug's album come out inMay.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
He got a single album .

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Not yet.
Yeah, he ain't got nothing.
Now I seen the post.
There's like billboards inAtlanta or Georgia and shit.
What's wrong.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
If it don't do better than Gunna's, does that prove
Gunna had the sauce?
Because you could be the faceof something.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
I don't, and not necessarily have like I don't
think that means I just think Idon't know how many people
Actually still waiting on Thugto drop it might be a lot,
because Baby going through a lotright now.
Yeah, you hear Baby in theQuavo new song.
Oh, they dropped the new track.

(17:03):
I mean it's Quavo and Lil Baby.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
I just heard.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Rapper.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Rapper, rapper, rapper.
I like that version of Quavo.
We know you simple, keep itsimple, be that way, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
It works for some people.
While we on, is it good thoughthe song?
I mean?
I know you said it was good,yeah, no, I'll play a little bit
real quick.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
No, yeah, but while I'm looking this up, vlad was
talking to academics and he wastalking about I couldn't find it
without anybody like.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Talking about it.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Reacting to it.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, I came across it, but he was talking about how
, back in the day, he heardstories about Drake having some
situations, but he kept tryingto say.
He kept saying, well, that'swhat he used to do.
We don't want to keep bringingup what he used to do?
He wouldn't say, but the way hewas alluding to some things

(18:01):
like- Like funny time situations.
Like shit that Kendrick wassaying might be true situations.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Funny time.
I don't know that.
In there with funny time.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay, well, yeah, all that mix of shit.
Hold on, dude the baby.
That's all I'm saying.
Baby girl yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Hundred million dollars.
Dang shit, pretty shit.
I got them black and lit Sixtymillion hunnids like a mess Okay
, that's not Me and white boystalking billies.
Yeah, yeah, none, straight bro,to them some billies.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Pretty shit I got a rack and all of them are carbon
fiber.
Kid, it is a spider.
2025, the spec of hybrid.
That beat toughant bro.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Being born and raised down here.
Does the beat carry us A lot oftimes?
Yeah, A lot of times.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, cause.
Yeah, I mean down here we gotthe 808s.
The flow I mean the beat andthe flow For a lot of our
artists down here Is we got the808s.
The flow I mean the beat andthe flow for a lot of our
artists down here is very heavy.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
But it is.
It's a handful of motherfuckers.
Because I argue with a bitch upand down, I'm like, bro, don't
nobody want to sit there up anddo shit?
Yeah, it takes a special guy tobreak through through the sound
and 9 times 10, he got to tapin with the.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
You got to be part of what's going on, At least, yeah
talk, shake a hand, make afriend.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
You know what I'm saying.
You got it, you got it.
That's why, like I think,that's why Nori always says what
he says about the.
You know, you know, I was thefirst one.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, yeah yeah, but he like to let you know though.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
No, but that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
He was all through the cash money shit back in the
day he knew it though?
Yeah, he understood it.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Even they not fucking with me, y'all like my style.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Mm-hmm.
I'm fucking with who fucks withme?
I was about to say, but he alsolooked into.
I mean, he could rap at times,but he also, especially when he
started linking with Pharrell,he focused on the beats and the
bounce and he understood.
You know what I'm saying.
What's going to pop?
That's when.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
that's why I tell my sons, or even my baby just be
coachable, be willing to listenand hear what they got to say
and decipher the bullshit fromthere, because you know what
you're doing and what you ain'tdoing.
So if somebody looking from theoutside in and telling you like
hey, man, you know if you wouldhave used basketball, if you

(20:29):
try to hit him with the twin,you should have just hit that
motherfucker with a side.
you know what I'm saying wentbehind your back and carried to
the left.
He know that move you're doingyou know what I'm saying.
That motherfucker don't takethat in and do it again.
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, that's what it is.
Yeah, but that got me thinkingabout B-Dot.
Put out another list and it waslike the best posse cuts, you
know what I'm saying.
And then shout out to JoeBudden, one of my favorite, but
they was debating on if BlingBling is worth being on the list

(21:09):
.
I know that's what Ice said.
Ice was like y'all notunderstanding what Bling Bling
was because of the biases andwe've talked about it.
We all got biases.
But you can't look at a listand see Bling Bling and think
that shouldn't be on there.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Nigga, that set off a lot of shit.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
It set off Bling period.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
So Ice was on the side of.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Ice was on the side of.
He was also on the side of.
There's a lot of down southsongs.
He brought up Watch for theHook.
He brought up Get Up hook.
He brought up get up get outand get something like a lot of
them songs they wasn't on thelist wasn't on the list now.
Bling bling was but like watchfor the hook and um, get up, get

(21:59):
out, get something.
But they, they.
I wasn't as mad at the list onuh what?
watch for the hook no um get up,get out it's outcast and um and
goody mom yeah, but it's only,it's, only, it's only a few of

(22:19):
them rapping on it, though.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah was any of Was any of the 3-6 on
there.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
No 3-6.
There was no 3-6.
There was no no Limit, becauseif we talking about impact of a
song that got to stay, yeah,that was a big song, that was
yeah.
I couldn't think of the song,the name of the song.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, because it's like about MJG and 36 Monfils.
Yeah, what are they consideringthe posse?

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Well see, that's what I was trying to figure out.
But, like I said, I'm not somad at the list.
But I think sometimes they getcaught up in who they like and I
think some stuff gets kind ofleft out.
You know what I'm saying,especially when it comes to up
north versus down south.

(23:07):
Let's see if I can find thislist real quick.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
That made me think of who are some of the greatest
duos in rap.
They're not a group, they'rejust a duo when they get
together, like Don Tripp andLito.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Man Red man.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
They working on Step Brothers, new Step Brothers too,
I can believe it.
You got the Symphony, which Iain't mad at, scenario 24 Hours
to Live 4-3-2-1,.
I Shot you Bling BlingInternational Players Anthem
Band From TV Flavoring your Ear,benjamins, which I'm not mad at

(23:51):
the list 24 hours to livethat's a locks.
I think DMX on there I.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I think that's the only one I probably haven't
heard.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
You haven't heard no you heard it.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah nah, you heard 24 Hours of Live.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I don't know the.
It's like putting a face to thename.
Yeah, I got you Like nigga.
I know the song, but I don'tknow the name.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
You know what I'm saying.
That type of thing, yeah, youknow the song.
Oh, oh yeah, I see the video.

(24:54):
Yeah Damn.
While this is a good song, thisis where the biases might come
into play, cause I don't seethis as a top 10, nigga you know
what I put over there?

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Ain't no fun.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Now Parks brought that up, he was like ain't no
fun.
That's definitely Cause theytalk about some.
Is that a posse?
Cut nigga.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
It's corrupt.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Orangey and Snoop.
It's the dog family.
Two solo Nate Dogg and later onA motherfucking 213 group.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Like, yes, bro, that's a posse cut.
It's definitely a posse cut.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
And Nate.
Excuse me yeah.
You know what I'm saying that'swhat I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Definitely a posse cut.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
I'm like bro ain't.
No fucking way, that's not onthere.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Definitely should have been on there, and that's
what I said.
I'm not as mad at the list.
The only thing that I got kindof like I wish I could talk to
them was in the fact of how theyview some of the down south
songs.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
you get what I'm saying that's one of my favorite
songs all the symphony noscenario scenario.
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, likethat video, yeah the verses,
yeah, like bro, come on likethat's.
I think that was one of thethings that was like nigga ain't
nothing better than this.
Fuck all this pop shit, fuckall this shit.

(26:17):
You know what I'm saying.
Being outside, you got a whiteschool and shit.
You be like man.
Don't.
Nobody want to hear.
No Britney Spears.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
What if I make them say uh, dog.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
That's what I'm saying.
That's a posse cut.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
No limit was all.
Posse cuts nigga Most of they.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
That's why I asked, because you would think oh no,
that's a group, but it's likenah, this consists of solo
artists.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
They solo artists, they just came together.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Get on this, and I'm taking everything.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
All of this is mine and that's why I said I'm taking
everything.
All of this is mine, but so,and that's why I said I'm not as
mad as at the list and I feellike everybody got their biases.
Then they want to go into.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Benjamin's will be number one, bro.
I don't know if it'll be numberone like in everybody's book,
but that is one of the bestsongs ever, bro.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
I put Benjamin's number one.
No, no, no, I'm down from here.
You know what I'm saying, butthat's one of them ones.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
A lot of people might not want that yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I'm notdisagreeing or agreeing.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, Because I love that song man that shit is.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Come on, bro.
It's one of them ones I wasabout to say in the video with
the beat switch.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, come on brother .
Yeah, we from down south, welike up north, shit bro.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
We just like music, bro.
We just also understand thatsometimes there's a little
disconnect.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, because everybody going nigga, where I'm
from, is better.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Because they was arguing Bling Bling shouldn't be
nowhere near it.
Who?

Speaker 2 (27:50):
though.
Like ish, Everybody except forice, but just I, I haven't
watched any other podcast, bro.
Listen to any other podcast,like it, ain't you know?
What I'm saying, yeah nah, butuh, that kind of surprised me,
oh oh, now we all are hip-hopheads.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Oh, oh.
Now we all are hip-hop heads.
Do you know why Joe said thatBling Bling shouldn't be on
there?
Because it's not a posse cut?
And you know why he thought itwasn't a posse cut?
Because he thought Big Thomaswas part of Hot Boys.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
He thought that was all one group.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I feel better about myself when.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
I talk about music.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
He thought it was all one group.
He said about myself when Italk about music.
He thought it was all one group.
He said so you mean to tell me?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Nah, man, he potting bro.
I guess so, but I tell you whatwhile I was listening.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
I said nah, he ain't just say that he ain't just say
that.
But yeah, I wasn't as mad atthe list.
Their conversation got me intodamn when I get to a point.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
So even Park said Bling, bling shouldn't have been
on there.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
No, he said it should be on there.
Okay, but he just wasn'ttalking as much.
I think he was just mad thatAin't no Fun wasn't on there.
That nigga came out of nowhere.
Hey, ain't no Fun, ain't nobossy good Like.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Oh nah, that'd be a bias.
That'd be a bias what?

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Because I about to say nigga Project bitch.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Mm, mm-mm.
Oh, what's the other one?
Uh, I like them hot.
The one that don't tell me tostop.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Eat it, eat it.
I don't look um, and they knowhow to uh, give me a Project
bitch.
That's it, that's it.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
That's one of they biggest.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Now, that might be our biases.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
That might be Cause.
Now I'm thinking about it I'mlike, yeah, I probably put, but
Nah.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Cause it.
Okay, if we, just If we didregional bro, I would have to
Bro, it's a lot.
They can go in there, causeSlippin' Sly got one.
What To?

Speaker 4 (29:53):
me.
Okay, let me say that.
Okay, I'm just saying have to,bro, it's a lot that can go in
there, because Slippin' Sly gotone.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
What To me?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Okay, let me say that , okay, I'm just saying we'll
take it to the house.
Hell, yeah, I wouldn't be madat that.
Yeah, I wouldn't be mad at that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
That's why I said reason that I could fight for
that.
Now, if I put it in the bracketagainst the nation, I'd be like
in the bracket against theNation.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
I'd be like, ah, damn , bro, you by yourself up there.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
They going against us .

Speaker 3 (30:15):
I got five on the remix.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
They getting slapped the fuck out of there.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Now that right there.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Why that ain't on there?

Speaker 1 (30:24):
I guess because that's a what would that be
considered, because I think theysaid they had like Spice One,
e-40, 2x, but I don't think theremix did as much as because
also they, looking at the impactof the song, okay, you know
what.
I'm saying yeah, okay, you knowwhat I mean.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Because nigga, I'm like nigga, you got who Run it
for three seconds.
You got it.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Who I want, who Run it?
It's just three six.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
No, they got Lord Infamous on there.
Well, Lord.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Infamous is part of 3-6.
God damn, that's right.
My bad, my bad, no, no.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
I'm waiting for you.
Hey, I got that.
I'm about to get that you aboutto go crazy.
No, they got Latak.
Where's the boot If they would?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
have had a pad on there, it would have been.
It could have been a posse cutum, but yeah, that was the only
thing that got me about um thelist, it wasn't the list through
the week I would have I justnow, when I was listening to the
podcast, I just heard it.
Yeah, because I I wish we wouldhave had more time too, because
then I could have came up withsome more.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Nobody from out West on there.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Nah, but that's why I do.
That's why Park said it ain'tno fun, because if no song from
Out West should be on there,that definitely should be on
there.
Hell yeah, definitely.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Speaking of Out.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
West.
That was nice.
That was nice.
That was nice.
Nah was nice, that was nice.

(32:07):
Say it, nigga, it's alreadythere.
Um mr kanye west in um the gamewhich I think the game was one
of his last like people hewasn't beefing with besides dave
blunts, because dave bluntswrote something on the kanye
west new album.
People he wasn't beefing withbesides Dave Blunt's cause, dave
Blunt's wrote some on the KanyeWest new album.
Yep, that's where we are.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
He had yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Oh, so top five, which we was talking about.
Top five or the top five, is um, drake's homeboy Right, and he
had posted a picture of him andDrake, which Drake has braids.
Now you just put out Nokia witha low cut.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Your hair didn't grow that fast.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Maybe it did, but he posted a picture on Instagram
and the game had put up on herbig montings.
That's what the game had posted, which then kanye post and say
why game, who I gave two madebacks to, is showing love to top
five who calls threatening tokill me?

(33:08):
Well, I guess I'm not going tobe executive producing that
album anymore.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
So now, yay in the game, not cool anymore and
they're going to hit the killswitch on the Maybachs.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
It's only funny because the gang been posting
them Maybachs like amotherfucker, like he been
posting them shit like crazy.
Fuck them Maybachs like amotherfucker.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Like he been posting them shits, like crazy.
Fuck them, maybachs.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
You been parading your ass around in the city when
he post that he say fuck youand your Maybachs little nigga,
I'll be back in LA in a week,Come and get them yourself For
him to say fuck them, Maybachs.
Like that you have been I'mtalking about them,
motherfuckers been on a photoshoot, but in hip-hop right now

(34:02):
you can't be cool with twopeople If the two people he's
going to put them in belly three.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Return of Ox.
Return of Ox.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
We do not need Any new belly.
But yeah, so that was.
I don't know how I feel aboutthat.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I just seen it when he say shit like why on earth?
What is it?
Nobody on earth Weirder thanthem Industry niggas.
Excuse me.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
The weirdest thing about that is because just
yesterday you be doing the sameshit, though bro.
But now he weird though Nigga,when he was saying the same shit
he's saying to you, toeverybody else.
It wasn't weird.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
If he would have got them Maybachs on a full tank, he
wouldn't be saying that shit.
Not much, Gabe.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Nigga left me on E.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Hey, if you go pick him up from the hotel, you can
have him.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Who I gave two Maybags to.
Come on, bro, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
That's lame shit bro.
I think both sides, but yay isbeing yay, so I mean, gabe
needed attention too, because Iwouldn't have said shit, I
wouldn't have said shit, Iwouldn't have said nothing, I
just would have seen that niggaI would have texted you or
called you.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Well, that's what he said he said he said I told you
what was going on, but then youchanged your number.
Academics said that too.
They was like Kanye changesnumber every week.
So hey man, I'm pretty sure youcan get in touch with him
though, somehow, some way.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
So I'm pretty sure you can get in touch with him,
though Somehow he on Twitter allday, all day long.
That never changes.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Just post something.
Just post something Before weget into the list of the ladies
of hip-hop.
You've seen the Kendrick video.
What do you think aboutKendrick and Beautiful SZA in
the Luther video?

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Beautiful SZA about Kendrick and beautiful scissor
in the Luther video beautifulscissor I.
I like it, but I what was thesnippet we got before?
I can't think of the song,having a brain fart.
But you know, when I have the,the talk, the red talk over, the

(36:28):
over the next is that you thinkyou think this video already
been done.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I would say part of it, because it looks like the
same area that they was doing.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
that, that's why, I asked.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, I could see that already been done for a
little second.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, bro, if it has been this nigga already.
His game plan.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
I'm about to say he seems to be planned out.
The only thing is we don't getstuff for a certain amount of
time.
So as a fan, I'd be like.
Actually, I take that backBecause if this was how we was
brought up, we getting stuff ingreat timing.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah, and you getting it just when you feel like you
about to be off of it.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
And then boom, he hit you with something else and the
tour starts.
I think the tour starts thisweek, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Man, look, I don't give a fuck because I ain't
getting nothing, but I am happyfor him yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
On the stadium tour.
Yeah, I'm happy for him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but hell yeah, man, they're going to On the
stadium tour.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, nobody's ever seen how a stadium tour is set
up.
The stage is in front of otherseats, so they're not going to
sell the seats behind the stage.
So people online like they hadto cut off some of the area so
they're not selling.
It's behind the stage.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
They're not going to be able to see, they won't see.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
And then there are some available on the side of
the stage.
That's not selling fast, buteven with that I'm over here,
like the stage is here and I'mright here.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Bro, with a lot of these for one.
If they sell out 85%, 90% ofthe stadium, they fucking win.
It's a sellout.
And I'm not even talking aboutthem, they're paid already.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, for real.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
The promotion or whoever put the money in when
they start selling these seatsout, is you know?
I'm saying yeah now they'redoing good, yeah, but anybody
who's selling any fucking thingfrom 85 to 100 capacity that's a
sellout, fucking wellespecially in these times.
We in right now, bro right,that's what people not
considering.
Everybody don't have fucking$350 to $720 to pay for one
fucking ticket.

(38:56):
You see what I'm saying.
That's some people's fuckingvacation Right For the year.
You see what I'm saying A lotof people don't get that.
People be thinking just becauseyou at here scamming or you
doing whatever you're doing toget your money, it's hardworking
people out here bro.
You see what I'm saying, solet's not get that fucked up,

(39:16):
bro.
Anybody who's selling 85 to100% is doing damn good, and
it's not that many of them.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Especially if you're doing it in a stadium.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yes bro, A stadium hold up.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Shout out to Chris Brown though.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, he different though.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Damn hey, he sold out Quick.
I don't give a fuck how manycigarettes that nigga on hey
when I seen the tickets dropright, they dropped it like I
forgot what day it was, but theydropped it 10 o'clock.
I'm in the shop, I'm cuttinghair.
I'm like okay, I ain't gotnobody About 1045.
I said let me go see, I'llresell.

(39:55):
Anything that's available isresell.
I said, well, we're not goingto go see Breezy Maybe.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
You had anything else lined up?
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Pick somebody else.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
But yeah, so I mean the video, the Luther video.
I like the video we talkedabout, how they edited, like the
song you know where they letsome of the actual Luther play.
I like that.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Mixing the video was awesome.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
It looks.
I mean, it looks beautiful,Looks beautiful.
That's what they do, thoughit's going to live forever, this
video.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
You know a lot of them just be here now and gone
tomorrow, you know.
People be like man.
The video was dirty, bro, butyou're not going to go back to
this one.
Yeah, it's like a mini movie,bro.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
And that's what I like about it.
At first, because I'm listeningto it and I'm singing the song,
so I'm waiting for the song tobe the song, but then it kind of
chop off, and then they got adifferent edit.
It's.
It's cool though.
It's cool though.
Put luther on there.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Just the original song, just imagine what that
estate doing right now oh, theyloving it.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
That's what I'm saying, nigga what I know more
of a game.
I'm like god damn, we don't letnobody you.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Maybe we should change our thing, use my shit.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Don't nobody even come to them and ask no more.
We already know Either you'regoing to want too much or you're
going to tell us no, who wasthe dude that was sounding like
him?
Oh shit, we talked about himtoo.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, I can't.
Yeah, it was Marvin Gaye boy,you better change that fucking
title.
I'm going to sue you becauseyou sound too much like him.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
As soon as you get to 100.
Off the sound.
But it's not him, bud Bud.
People could mistake him.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Hey, y'all is a motherfucker.
You're too close.
Didn't Jonah Lucas make hisface look like Will Smith?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
You're doing the same thing.
You're doing the same thing.
Give it here.
Come on, bro.
98% of it, the bread was inbetween.
Yeah, so also Billboard.
People love making lists, right, mm-hmm.
So Billboard put out a list ofthis is the 25 best female

(42:12):
artists of all time, and theyranked that off of longevity,
which that's why some of thenames on here should not be on
here.
Impact, all that stuff, right?
So I'm going to start with 25.
25 and 24, I love both of y'all, but no 25, you got Tierra
Whack 24, you got Dolce 23,.

(42:34):
You got Tierra Whack 24, yougot Dolce 23,.
You got Gangsta Boo 22,.
Lady of Rage 21,.
Glowrilla 20, money Love 19,.
Lotto 18, remy Ma 17,.
Rhapsody 16, doja Cat 15, meganThee Stallion 14, left Eye,

(42:59):
trina the Brat, cardi B, foxyBrown, eve Roxanne Shante,
salt-n-pepa MC Lyte and numberfive you got Queen Latifah, you
got Kim Lauryn Hill, missyElliott, nicki Minaj, off-rip

(43:23):
Tierra Whack Dolce, glorilla,lotto.
I love Rhapsody, but Rhapsody,megan Thee Stallion.
If you basing stuff off oflongevity, where is that
longevity at?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Dolce just got hot Rhapsody you can give it to
Rhapsody.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Rhapsody been around for a minute.
No, that's what I'm saying, andshe done put a little stomp in
you can give that to her.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
She made her elevation last year.
You right To me.
A lot stomp in there.
You can give that to her.
She made her elevation lastyear.
You right To me.
A lot of people overlooked it,and it was a fucking great album
she elevated to now.

(44:12):
Not to the point to whereJanelle Monáe showed her titties
, but to the point to where shewas like I could be a girl too.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I could show off me.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
You see what I'm saying yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, now opens her up todifferent lanes and routes, and
not just so.
What is it?
Introspective like this is meon the inside.
Nah, this is like everything,because she exposed a lot in
that last album.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
On that last album she did, she talked about a lot.
Come on, bro, you can give herthe longevity.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
I'll give it to her.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Glorilla, give her about another year or so.
That would have been justified.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
What's the longevity?
So, with that, what determineslongevity then?
How?

Speaker 2 (44:46):
long has she been in the game?

Speaker 1 (44:50):
I don't even think five years yet.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Maybe five years yet.
Okay, maybe five years, becauseI think she got popping during
the pandemic.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
She had a rookie deal .
Both her projects Damn near.
Kept CMG afloat Outside ofMoneybag who they got.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Who they got, yeah Black.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Youngsta dropped off.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Mm-hmm.
And that was just because somestreets oh, this side note Was
Big Boog signed to CMG.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Still signed to CMG.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Oh, is he.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Okay, I think so I think it's Big Boog, moneybag,
glorilla Black Youngsta and Ithink it's one more.
No, he been gone.
Excuse me, I better say Zillownigga oh.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
I ain't heard my nigga name in a minute.
Nigga Shout out to Zillow.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Another one Damn, oh, my God.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Damn, but okay so.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
That's why I said give her another year or two.
And she's still doing.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
She's staying afloat and she's still.
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
I like the umbrella All the new names that you named
.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Tierra Whack.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
No, no, no, no.
She nowhere.
She's null and void.
You ain't heard nothing abouther.
Dolce Lotto I don't want to putRhapsody in there.
Rhapsody Cardi B and them names.

(46:40):
She the one going right now.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
She's still dropping music and shit.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
And women's hip hop.
She's leading the charge.
Nicki Minaj.
Keep herself out the way forwhatever reason, bro, like she's
too good to rap now.
You see what I'm saying.
And then when she does come out, is it any good or is it just
Nikki?

Speaker 1 (47:05):
it's Nikki, but she's still Nikki.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
You can't live off of that how long you gonna be able
to live off of that?
Why no, I'm not saying her, I'mjust saying, like, how long is
going to be able to live off ofthat?
Why no, I'm not saying her, I'mjust saying, like, how long is
somebody going to be able tolive off of?
Well, it's just Nicki.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
It's just Lauryn Hill .

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I don't think Lauryn should be that fucking high.
That project was amazing, yeah,but we not talking longevity.
That project lives forever, butwhat do you have after?

Speaker 1 (47:32):
that.
What do you grow after that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Bro, when everybody talk about Lauryn Hill, she has
the miseducation of Lauryn Hill.
Ain't nothing but her.
All I want for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Every year it's coming somewhere.
Right or wrong, bro, right or?

Speaker 3 (47:50):
wrong.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
It's coming.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
That's what she got.
So a lot of uh, one one personthat a lot of people that I've
heard say that was left off wasrod digger.
Right, and I like rod diggerand I think maybe more bias, I
think mia x is our rodigger Likein the sense of like I don't
hear a lot of people down southwould say Rod Digger, but I
wouldn't hear too many peoplefrom up north, the East Coast,

(48:21):
say Mia X.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I kind of agree with that, because outside of their
single projects and I can'tthink of it, I can't think of
her solo single but outside ofthat one she had one album,
right, I think two.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Okay, I want to say two.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Outside of Master P.
That mattered anyway.
You don't hear her withoutMaster P.
Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Yeah, rod Diggins, we don'treally hear her without.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Busta Rhymes.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
You see what I'm saying, so I think it's one of
them, things Like you alwaysgoing to be tied into the male
artist of who leading the charge.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Yeah, that time for sure.
But.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
I like stuff Like if Lauryn Hill hill number three,
we should break this shit downin decades because this should
be higher.
But if we keeping it like howit is now longevity
motherfuckers will start fallingoff because now my projects are
outlasting your projects.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Because I got seven, I'm in the game yeah, but no
album has done what Lauryn Hillalbum has done.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
I mean, if we speak in longevity, that album is
still strong.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
That album lives.
She didn't do anything outsideof that.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
But if you saying that that's her all I want for
Christmas, it's still going todo what it's going to do.
People will continue to go seeher on tour, even though she
might not show up, people stillgoing to pay their money to
maybe see a Lauryn Hill show.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
It's hard In that same birth.
It's hard to compete with that.
Then it don't matter how long Istay in the game.
You know what I'm saying.
That's just like the Jordanthing.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
He got six rings.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
He's never been beating the finals, even though
he's been beating before he getsto the finals.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Excuse me, yes, Jordan got six rings.
Every time he got to the finalshe won.
Why don't we give LeBronjustice for making it to more
finals?
I mean, I get he didn't winevery time, but I was able to
take these teams.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
That's how it is, bro .
He didn't win.
And then they'll say, like well, bill Russell won 11.
Nigga, he was only playingAgainst Nine teams.
You see what I'm saying.
It's always gonna be Adifferent.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Um Shawna.
I think should've Could've beenon this list, but I was a fan
of Shawna.
I don't think her longevityReally Did anything.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I picked Shawna Over your girl who.
What's the other one From LoveHip Hop?

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Remy Ma.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Kirk's wife, oh Rashida yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Yeah, I would too.
But yeah, that's the only thing.
I think Da Brat should havebeen higher At number 12.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Longevity and she had hits yeah.
And she was with the big dogs.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Or is she from Chicago?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Mm-hmm Riz and Fush that Pink Lemonade video.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I ain't, I ain't, I ain't.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
We uh, you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
So where would you put?
Would you keep?
Would you keep Cardi B whereshe at?

Speaker 2 (52:04):
I'm taking Roxanne to take you out of the top 10.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
I would drop, I would drop that down too.
I would drop her down, yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Her contributions to women in hip hop is amazing.
Who we talking about.
Come on, bro, yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
I just wanted to.
I just think me and X justdon't you know she don't get her
just due at all at all.
She be saying that so sexy whenshe be like yes, this is my
combo when she be talking abouther food.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
You gotta make the room baby.
I be like, oh yeah down therecooking it up.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
I remember my computer don't froze.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
I don't remember when it was but she was like her
house was flooding.
She said, yeah, babies, I ain'tgoing to be able to cook.
This morning I got a littleflood water that's coming in.
I said damn.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Damn.
I was about to play that Iain't going to be able to watch
her make no gumbo.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
She ain't going to cook today.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Shout out to Mia she ain't going to cook today, oh
man.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Come on, Kanye, Shut that shit down bro.
Did you see, they caught himwith a yarmulke on walking out
one of them buildings.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Nah, I ain't paying no attention to cuz man.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
I ain't paying no attention, I'm done.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
I'm done with cuz.
I ain't done with him.
I just ain't paid no attention.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Oh yeah, you easy.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Um Swiss Beats.
I guess this is Pusha T, butit's produced by Well no,
because I seen the Monster.
I seen it was Swiss Beats song,but whatever, this is their new
song, swiss Beats.
This is the snippet of swissbeats uh jada kiss and uh push a

(53:53):
t this beat sound the same wealready talked about him being a

(54:29):
producer, but it look like it'sa Swiss beat.
They pushing it.
It's saying Pusha T, but Ithink it's going to be a Swiss
Beats album.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Bro, the funniest thing about Jadakiss bro is when
his daddy said that.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
When his daddy said that oh my God.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
What he uh, he don't like to tell everybody he's from
a two-parent household.
It's not gangster enough.
You know, I've been in thecoffee business for 35, 40 years
.
It's like nigga, you come fromprivate school.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
But that ain't got nothing to do with how I rap.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Nigga, you was skipping.
Probably too.
You had a show first.
Stop saying I'm hungrier than amotherfucker.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
You got a thousand dollars waiting on you to go.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yeah, I'm hungry too.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Nigga what you hungry for.
Oh, One thing I wanted to.
One thing I did want to talkabout that A lot of our Somebody
posted on Twitter and said Sadeis overrated.
These are the things, Sometimes, that I don't get.
I don't understand.

(55:45):
I think we get into a.
I don't understand.
I think we get into a.
Uh, everybody's differentgeneration.
So now we we've said it beforewe became the older, the older
dudes where people are like nameone Missy Elliott song.
Why should, why should she beso high?
Name a Missy Elliott song.

(56:05):
It's like, even if I don'tremember the name cause the game
show shit off the top of myhead right now.
I might not know, but we're notgoing to disrespect greatness
like that.
I mean you ready to review theAlpaca?

Speaker 2 (56:28):
You know what's crazy when you young and you hear
niggas, like you hear that Sade,you're like, hey man, go
outside and play, you're likeyeah what the fuck is this?
What am?
I TT, I wasn't saying this Comeon, then, when you get out,
you're like somebody put you on.
It was like Mm-hmm.
So this is what Sade is, that'sSade.

(56:53):
And it don't be smooth aboutthe writer Sade he be like I
never heard this.
Why is the beat so sexual?

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Everything is nice.
Everything is nice.
Did you just like candles?

Speaker 3 (57:05):
from the couch.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah, there's a, but yeah, either way.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
So who they got?
Who they Sade down there isbecause Brent Fires over here.
That nigga crazy.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
I don't think.
I don't think, no, that Sade isstill, should still be
everybody Sade.
There's no.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
She kind of timeless.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Yeah, what I'm saying Just turn it on, let it go.
No, no, nigga don't know, justturn it on, let it go.
Pull up your album cuz Pause,if need be.
Oh you, you the rundown man, ohmy bad, you the one with the oh
my bad cuz.
So this week we are going toreview.

(57:53):
We are talking about 2 Chainzdebut solo album, which is
called Based on a True Story,which was released under Def Jam
in 2012.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
January 1st First album of the year, first album
of the year I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
The singles that he had was no Lie Birthday Song
featuring Kanye West, who was onno Lie, drake, drake and then
I'm Different.
That was his three singles.
Produce-wise, he had StreetRunner, bangladesh, southside
Mike Will Made it Mark.
He had a bunch of people SonyDigital, kanye West, mustard,

(58:30):
mike Dean the Dream.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
He had a lot, probably didn't make nothing off
his.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Yeah, I'm about to say he had a lot of
motherfuckers on his bitch.
Yeah, so this is.
If you knew him as Titty Boyback in the day with with
Ludenium, you know he became.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
What he was, titty Boy With Ludenim.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
DTP man.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah, dtp, nah, nah, nah.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
With Ludenim.
No disrespecting, bro, as faras.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
You been shouting them from the radio.
Mine Exactly.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Exactly as far as charts, it peaked at number one
on the Rap charts.
It peaked at number one on therap charts.
It peaked at number one on theR&B and hip-hop Peaked at number
one on the Billboard 200.
And in the UK and across theworld it was 31-180.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Here he was what.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Around here he was that.
So yeah, that's the album.
He did release uh deluxe, sothe original one only had 13
songs on it.
He released the deluxe to havefour more songs, which that's
where you get uh riot.
Uh, I feel good, like me, andthen countdown featuring chris
brown.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
so yeah, and even through his homeboy on the last
song on the original album whoCap.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
One Cap One, then he had Dollar Boy on one of the
songs and as far as features, wetalked about the features on
here.
He had Wayne Drake, kanye theDream, nicki Minaj At the time
Mike Posner, if y'all know MikePosner.
He had Scarface, john Legend,chris Brown, and then we talked

(01:00:09):
about the production.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Like you said that nigga didn't he must have been
serving the best weed in all ofAtlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
He had everybody on this motherfucker.
He had to be serving the bestgas, bro.
Hey, it got him what he need.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Hey bro, I just need one little-.
You still got that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Hell yeah, put up on me, you get that if you, let me
switch a room.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Hey, so I mean he got it, man, it's only one song, I
don't really care for.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
What's that Dope Peddler.
I feel like that's a Bangladeshbeat and it is.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
And it is, and it is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Started out with an OZ, made my way to the OK.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
The one song I mean.
There's a few songs I don'tlike.
For real which ones.
I'm going to tell you the onesong I really hate Money Machine
.
Oh my God, I knew you was goingto say that I fucking hate
Money Machine Because the lyricsis.
I knew you was going to saythat I fucking hate Money
Machine Because the lyrics is soand I get what he trying to do.
He doing it on purpose, Iunderstand, but how he's

(01:01:18):
stunting is like so extreme,it's like, it's funny, it's like
.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Do that?
Do that?
I got a money machine Hold on,bro.
I just want to hear the first.
This guy shit bro, watch thebeat.

(01:01:51):
Drop you crazy as hell, bro,now look.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
I fucking hate that song.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
You said you hate that song.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
But you like this, I do.
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
You only like it.
Because you know what it'll doto a trunk.
Maybe that's it, maybe that'sit what.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
What you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
That's the only song.
I'm really careful, bro.
No lie, they brought the holein your fucking brain when they
dropped.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
That and I'm different.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
I liked that when it first came out.
No, I liked it, I'm justtalking about as hood as this
nigga was bro, or people thoughthe was.
He didn't give a fuck.
I'm going to do what I want todo.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
I'm different.
That's why I like it.
This is what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
That's why I liked it .

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
But which one was it?
Birthday songs sound just likeI love them.
Strippers yeah, extremelyblessed If I was sitting in a
room.
Extremely blessed If I wassitting in a room and letting it
just vibe.
No, no, no, and just heard howit.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
If I heard this, Shout out to the dream.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
I probably would have skipped it, bro, if they was
trying to send me on this song.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Yeah, you would've skipped that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
At first I probably wouldn't have made it to this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Shout out to the dream boy he do his thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
But this one, this one, yeah, yeah.
I kinda don't like the one withMike Posner.
I don't, because it's MikePosner.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
It's like why, why him?

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Why him?
But I like Ghetto Dreams.
If John Legend wasn't on there,bro, you could get anybody else
to sing that part, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
I'm not the biggest John Legend fan Because.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Scarface man hold on, Get lifted.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
No, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
But he don't do well on everybody else's shit.
Yeah, To me he barely got awaywith that motherfucking DJ
Khaled and Nip Hussle bro.
Barely yeah, you heard what Isaid, bro Barely, he barely made
it out of that motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
But this is straight bro.
But for his foot.
This is the biggest drawbackfor me.
Way too many features, bro.

Speaker 5 (01:04:42):
A lot.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
I feel like he didn't waste them, but it's like, bro,
you didn't have to use them Ifeverybody was going to give you
one.
You could have tracked them outa little better.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
I got, you I got you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
To have.
Okay, let's just start with thefucking intro.
To start with Wayne.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Drake.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Ye, let's skip the dream and Nicki Minaj.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Yeah, them some hitters boy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
What would be the start?

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
of a fucking peak bro .

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
And it lasted for fucking ever.
Really, really, those fourpeople, bro, those four people.
They didn't peak until theyturned it off, until they
started doing whatever they feltlike they needed to do to
further their career or justdidn't want to do it no more.
It was up to them to to cancelthey self or just stop with the

(01:05:45):
music.
Bruh right, but to start withthem, I would would have just
used, I would have used theDream, I would have used Lil
Wayne, I would have kept theNicki verse on Ice.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
I really would have just probably had Wayne, you got
to keep that Drake verse for nolie.
No, no, no.
You got to keep Drake on no forno lie.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
No, no, no.
You got to keep Drake on no lie.
That's the biggest one.
But I would have kept thatWayne Drake Dollar and Dream bro
and everything else, everybodyelse I wouldn't have took away
from them, but I would have keptit for the next one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
So I wouldn't make sure, so you could spread it out
.
I get what you're saying, so Imade sure that I deez in the
tuck.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
They already cleared, we good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Well, I like yuck, I like crack, I like dope peddling
.
No lie, birthday Once you getpast, I love them.
Strippers to me, I don't likeStop Me Now.
I don't like Money Machine.
I don't like Stop Me Now, Idon't like Money Machine.
I don't like In Town.
Ghetto Dreams is cool, and thenI like what we Doin' On the

(01:06:59):
Once you get to the countdown.
I don't like no songs on the Onthe Deluxe, except for Riot,
and I think that's just becauseI heard it.
I like it was one of them.
I don't like no song on the onthe deluxe, though, but I think

(01:07:20):
I think without the deluxe, thisis, this is a, this is a decent
.
I mean especially for the.
The good thing that we knowabout chainsains now is boy, he
got better Like as he went along.
Now, this wasn't a bad album.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
But would you say this was kind of a not a letdown
, but compared to Codeine Cowboy, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
I could see definitely coming as we back in
in that time, coming from hismixtapes and shit, true Relief
and all that, and then cominginto this.
It's like it's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
You lost five points, but yeah, you know what I'm
saying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
But then, you know, we do see over time, Chains
become a better rapper, likemuch better rapper.
You know what I'm saying.
So what's your ranking on thisthing?
I gave this.
Become a better rapper, likemuch better rapper.
You know what I'm saying.
So what's your ranking on thisthing?

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
I gave it a three and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
I gave it a three and a half, yeah, and that's that's
like pretty much middle of theline.
Almost you know what I'm saying.
Like it's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Could've went either way.
Yeah, could've went either way.
Now this right here, what Iwould say about the three and a
half.
It give you a little bit ofboth.
He give you a good mixture ofwhat I was and what I'm trying
to be Like as far as like tryingto mix the street and
commercial together.
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
I could go with that being like this is your like.
Even though you had Duffer, badBoys and all that, this was
your first like.
Oh, let me, really the industrytype shit.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Yeah, this is how it work, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
I give you that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Yeah, but yeah, it's all of that.
I'm three and a half.
It ain't good and it ain't badman.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Yeah, it's right there middle of the road.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
You can find you some good tracks off of it, and
that's that, and that's that,that's that, but shots of two
chains.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
He had a podcast with him and his son.
Yeah, I know that shit coolyeah it's pretty cool, man
Especially doing that with yourson and shit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
I like that.
Yeah, I seen a video of him.
He looked like he was lookingat his money and shit or just
not getting good Seeing numbersand shit.
He like man, what the fuckgoing on?
And somebody offered his sonsome candy and he looked like
his son said no, but he lookedat his daddy like he don't fuck
with me but his son already knew.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, I give it three and ahalf.
It's cool.
Next week, prank that man, allright.
Next week, drink that RoboCopNext week we have a
recommendation.
What's up?
There's a young artist namedXavier Sobaste.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
He has an album called With Part two, xavier.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Sobaste, xavier, sobaste, where you from with
part two.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Xavier so Xavier so based we don't know, don't know
a lot about them with with two,with two hosted by dog.
That's yeah.
We got a nice littlerecommendation From the the team
.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
We gonna see what's up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
The inner team.
So yeah, so that's what we onit better not be one of the
videos.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Now, you see, I brought that Crank that RoboCop
up.
You see, you got silver for me.
No, soulja Boy, for what?
Yeah, I don't know, but he hada whole little statement he was
reading.
Yeah, I don't know, but he hada whole little statement he was
reading out to I don't think itwas TMZ.
I seen it on hold on Damn Mm-mm.
Let me see, let me see, let mesee, let me see, let me see.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
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got.
A couple of my clients told methey've been going back and
listening to some of thepodcasts.
Got a few new followers onYouTube and TikTok.
Shout out to y'all.
We appreciate y'all checking in.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
We on YouTube.
So the $4 million lawsuit forSA.
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Oh yeah, I was about to say we yeah.
We didn't really touch on it,Pauls, but yeah, I didn't know
it was still going throughthough.
Well, we'll talk about that.
Check out the Patreon.
I don't think this is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Oh, no, that's not.
Oh, but yeah, shout out to thenew listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
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Shout out to the newsubscribers, new followers.
We do appreciate y'all.
We are definitely continuing tolearn as we grow, because you
know that's what you do youlearn, you grow.
Make sure y'all follow us onanything your Instagram.

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Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
With a Z, not an S.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
I'm Cuts by Reggie with an S.
Cuts the way you spell it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
I was going to say you see my picture like that,
but it ain't, you'll see ourlogo because I'm true to the
team.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Yeah, true to the brand.
Yeah, true to the brand.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
And I'm cussed by Reggie, and then y'all can
follow us late to the party,knoxville on everything, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
And for people who be saying why y'all put Knoxville
in it Nigga, because that'swhere we from it's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Knoxville and plus party was already taking place?
Yeah, I was there.
You know why.
You know why?
Don't ask stupid shit.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
But yeah man.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Like my man said appreciate y'all, man Big time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
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Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
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Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Shut up, dude, we out .