August 16, 2023 • 31 mins
Join us, as we navigate the captivating journey of Allen Bey, an accomplished engineer turned successful entrepreneur. Allen recalls his humble beginnings and illuminates to us how those valuable experiences contributed to the birth of his own enterprises. His thought-provoking insights into the world of entrepreneurship, where he says, "Everyone is your boss," will surely leave you fascinated.
He opens up about his trials and tribulations, and the potent role of faith in his life. Not one to mince words, Allen highlights the power of active listening and comprehension. By the end of the episode, you'll experience a renewed appreciation for perseverance, faith, and the joy of investing in people, enriched by Allen's moving anecdotes and invaluable takeaways.
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Lisa Peters (00:07):
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I'm your host, lisa Peters, andour guest today is Alan Bay.
As a professional engineer withover 40 years of experience in
the oil and gas industry, al'scareer can be characterized as
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entrepreneurial.
His first job once completinguniversity was at Norsen Energy,
and while there, he took everyopportunity to study each
department within the company,soon learning the entire
organization and all aspects ofthe energy business.
At the same time, alan waslearning the energy business, he
also felt a calling to have hisown enterprise.
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After a brief stint at the U ofC MBA program, alan decided to
venture off on his own and starttwo fast food outlets, all
while still working full time atNorsen.
After 13 years at Norsen, hedecided it was time to take a
bigger leap and start his firstoil and gas company.
In 1995, alan started a privateoil and gas company called
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Ardent Energy.
A year later, he would changethe name to Avid Oil and Gas and
take the company public.
Five years later, he sold Avidto Husky Oil and after selling
Avid, he took some time off totravel with his young family and
then started a new publiccompany called Rock Energy in
2002.
Rock persevered through manybusiness cycles and was
eventually sold to Raging Riverin 2016.
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After selling Rock, alanco-founded a new company in
Sceptre Energy to investigatethe opportunity of developing
gas to liquids projects inWestern Canada.
In 2019, he joined Lynx Energyto provide leadership and
support while the companycompleted financial and
management restructuring, andthen to be part of the team
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driving forward.
Today, he serves as thepresident and CEO of Lynx Energy
.
Welcome to the show, al.
Allen Bey (02:24):
Nice to see you, lisa .
Thank you.
Lisa Peters (02:25):
It is nice to have you.
Now, the one thing I took outof your well, this is
interesting, I took this out ofthe last guest was you have your
ICDD designation and I feelthis is floating around me like
it's time I should take my own.
At what point did you decide totake that for yourself?
Allen Bey (02:44):
Yeah, actually that probably happened right at the
time I was selling Rock Energyand sort of looking at what's
the next development of mycareer as I move into the next
chapter of my life, so to speak.
So what I wanted to do was sortof get that foundational
training that the ICDD provides.
The other thing that it gave mewas, you know, it's kind of a
refresh MBA I would call it, andif you've ever looked into the
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ICD program, it's actually verythorough and you'll get a good
refresh on the businessprinciples and what's the issues
of the day.
You'll meet a lot of reallyinteresting people.
Really interesting people.
That's probably the one thing.
But the other thing I realizedis I had been a director many,
many times through all thosecompanies that you had mentioned
earlier.
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I was chairman of the board anddirector at Avid and Ardenton,
you know, Rock and nonprofitorganizations.
So I had done a lot ofdirectorship roles.
I thought, well, it's a betterlearn how to do it.
So actually it was a reallygreat step for me and I'm quite
glad that I did that.
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So I highly recommend people tolook into that if they're
looking for their career.
Lisa Peters (03:51):
Yeah, and I think, as the last guess, I had noted
that a lot of women want to getinvolved in boards and chairs.
I think sometimes we're justafraid, maybe we don't think we
know enough, but they're inroles of leadership now.
So I have actually got a callinto a group that is, you know,
I see their name.
On this, I'm like I'm going tofind out more.
So thank you for answering thatquestion.
Allen Bey (04:14):
No, absolutely.
I think it kind of solidifiesthe experience that you've
already got, yeah, and I thinkthat don't underestimate what
you've already learned, andcompanies young companies today,
with young entrepreneursleading them, need that help.
Lisa Peters (04:28):
Yeah.
Allen Bey (04:28):
And that's a way to give back, in fact.
Lisa Peters (04:30):
Good, all right.
So for anyone listening, theseare special podcasts.
We're interviewing some of ourleader, impact members, like Al,
and we're asking them four mainquestions.
So this is our third in a row,but we really talk about pivotal
turning points, best principlesof success, greatest failures.
So we go through all thosequestions and then, of course,
we end with our two favorites.
So we're going to start with.
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We're going to start with ourfirst one and, al, you know what
we want to hear yourprofessional story and how you
got to where you are today.
So we're wondering if you cangive us a snapshot of some
pivotal turning points alongthat journey.
Allen Bey (05:04):
Great, you bet, lisa.
So I think you know you had agreat summary of my career in
the introduction there and oneof the things that is
foundational to me and comesfrom my father is
entrepreneurship, and I'vealways thought that I was going
to be, you know, running my owncompany, doing whatever that.
But one of the delusions that Ithink a lot of people think of
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when they say, well, I want tohave my own company because then
I can be my own boss, thenumber one lie as soon as you
have your own company, everybodyis your boss.
So you've got to understandthat and you're not getting away
from something, you're gettinginto something.
So when I first started mycareer, after getting my
mechanical engineering degreewhich I sort of believe to be
foundational, just as you know,a good science degree that I can
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understand and it can apply toalmost any industry that's where
that went.
But I went to that Norse and atNorse they, you know, blessed me
with the opportunity to gothroughout the company and I was
always on the place of.
This is my learning ground.
This is where I can learn howto how these kinds of companies
operate, because I knew that ifI tried to have my own oil
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company coming out, this comingout the gate, that's probably
not going to work.
So you needed to spend sometime and I think, learn the
business and spend some time andlet you know, let those
mistakes happen that you willmake, and I think that's what
prevents you from, you know,making those bigger mistakes
later.
So I think I looked at time atNorse and it's foundational to
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my career, not only in thetraining but in the network I
was able to build.
So you look at all the people Imet at that time.
I was there, a company, almost13 years and I ended my time
there as their manager ofacquisitions and divestitures
and as the manager of A&D.
You knew everybody in the city,like everybody wanted to buy
and sell properties with you andcompanies.
We're doing all that and so Ihad this huge network that
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really was, you know,transformational in allowing me
to start Ardent, which was thenext company which turned into
Avid.
And so, again, it's all aboutthe training, all about laying
out the path forward and runningto something, not from
something.
And you know, the Avid storywas very successful, very
successful.
Actually, within five years,you know, we took the company
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from zero to 6,000 girls, whichis a reasonably good size
company at the time.
So the T'Hoskey life lookedgood, didn't need to work again.
Life is grand, right, but I'monly 42 years old, you can't
just sit around the house, right?
So you got to spend some time,you know, find out what it is
that you really want to do,spend some time with your kids
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and life at the time and say butthen after a while you get a
little itchy.
So that's when I started Rock,and Rock was a much more longer
term project, you know, almost14 to 15 years.
So again in Rock, the thing thathappened there was you had a
lot of people come and gothrough the course of those 15
years and you saw some businesscycles.
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The company transformed itself afew times, you know, in oil or
in gas or in heavy oil, or inpolymer floods, technology,
things like that all of whichwas very fun, and you know a lot
of people go through yourorganization in that timeframe
and I really, really enjoyed thefact that we had people start
their career with us, getmarried, have kids and go on
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with their life and you'reproviding employment for them
and they're providing value foryou, obviously, and again, being
a part of that was quiterewarding for me, and so I
looked at that as like, okay,there's more to you know.
I want to be a part of helpingpeople develop themselves and
their careers and that kind ofthing, and so that's what Rock
was.
In fact, at the very end, whenwe finally sold the company, I
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had this book made and hadpictures of all of the, you know
, main assets we had whichpeople would all be a part of
making.
But we had the names of everysingle employee that ever worked
there at the back of this bookand I was able to get that book
to everybody that at one time orwere currently working there.
But again, a bit of a hey, youknow, we spend a lot of time
together.
Yeah, you know, and Iappreciate that.
Lisa Peters (08:59):
Yeah, I know what I love about your story when I
think of Norson and all theopportunities you had there, and
then the companies that youwere part of started.
You know is that we pivot inlife.
So you know yours was a.
You got the choice to pivot,you got the.
You know you weren't fired oranything.
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But I think of people who getfired they see it as a negative.
It's like no, take this as anopportunity to go.
I'm going to take what Ilearned here and go to the next
thing.
So you may feel it negative,but it's like look at it as an
opportunity to pivot right.
Allen Bey (09:35):
Absolutely.
Lisa Peters (09:36):
I used that word a lot two, three years ago.
I was like you know, when I wasin event industry.
It disappeared, you know, for alittle while, but it was like
what do I get to pivot to?
Allen Bey (09:46):
Absolutely.
You've got to have thatconfidence to, like you did, to
think of it that way and I hateto admit I mean I've had to let
a lot of people go over thecourse of those years.
You know, not working out thejob isn't working out for them,
and that's always my message.
Like this job isn't for you,you need to go find the one that
you will, and I don't know of ascenario where that wasn't true
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and almost all of them, in time, found where they needed to be.
Lisa Peters (10:11):
Yeah, that sounds a little bit like Radical Candor
by Kim Scott.
Did you read that one?
Allen Bey (10:15):
We have read that.
Lisa Peters (10:17):
No, this just isn't for you.
But there's something reallygreat for you out there, Not
here.
Allen Bey (10:22):
Absolutely.
Lisa Peters (10:24):
All right.
Well, we want to talk aboutyour best principle of success.
So if you can give us your bestprinciple of success and tell
us a story that illustrates that, yeah, I think the best one is
probably perseverance.
Allen Bey (10:39):
When you're in the middle of something and you're
moving forward, you can't alwayssee how it's going to work out.
So you've got to have thecourage and the nimbleness, like
you say, to pivot as theopportunity presents itself.
And at the time that you're atthis dark place you probably
can't see an opportunity.
So you've just got to perseverewith the belief, the
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foundational belief, thatsomething's going to come up and
it's going to provide you anavenue and a way to the next
place, so that you'll find thenext thing.
And I know when I first started, for example, avid, I'm coming
out of Norse and, yes, I've gotthis great contact database, but
I don't have any money.
I don't have a property, Idon't have anything.
It takes us where to get thingsgoing.
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When I was a single one guy, Iwas sitting.
A buddy of mine lent me hisfile room and I set up my office
in his file room.
Actually, I actually strung atelephone wire from the T-bar
ceiling so I could plug in myfax machine, which is.
We had those back then andthat's how we got going.
But I had no clue what wasgoing to actually materialize as
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I moved forward.
So I had this maybe blind faiththat I was going to find
something in some time, and Ijust persevered through and the
Avid story worked out to be very, very successful and you just
don't know where it's going tocome from.
So I know a lot of people liketo say well, I just want to plan
the next three steps so theycan get to the fourth step.
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Sometimes it doesn't work thatway and you've got to have the
faith to take a step and whenyou get there, you'll see more
stones in the path that you canstep on.
Lisa Peters (12:15):
Yeah, when you talk about perseverance and I love
that you mentioned the darkplace.
And I just wonder when I thinkif I'm in a dark place, I always
think of the people I surroundmyself with and I just wonder
when you were ever in a darkplace, what did you do?
What was that thing you did youmake the call?
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You?
Allen Bey (12:39):
Yeah, for me.
I'm a very structured kind ofguy.
I like to have routine in mylife and so I would never stay
at home.
I would always get up, go towork, try to figure it out, even
though there wasn't a work todo.
I remember getting in theoffice in the early days of the
habit and you're looking aroundand you're what do I do now?
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And you know that you just gotto keep putting one foot in
front of the other.
You keep meeting people, youkeep moving forward and you just
have to have I think again it'sback to that perseverance and
you just got to believe.
You just got to keep puttingone foot in front of the other.
And it's just.
For me, structure was important, so I knew I had to get up and
do that and that got me thereand I had no clue what was going
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to happen the day, butsomething always did Small thing
that started to grow intosomething else.
Lisa Peters (13:26):
Yeah, I love that.
When I had the world cut theevent industry off, I continued
to get up at 5.30 every morning.
I didn't really have anywhereto go.
I was like I'm going to get up.
Allen Bey (13:40):
No, it's exactly.
You get up and you don't knowwhat's going to face yourself.
But I'll tell you one thing Ifyou're not awake, you're not
going to see it.
Lisa Peters (13:47):
Right, get ready.
Yeah, all right.
Well, here's a great questionabout failures and mistakes.
I mean, I think we both know welearn more from our failures
and mistakes than our successes.
So would you share one of yourgreatest failures or mistakes
and what you learned from it?
Allen Bey (14:05):
Yeah, you know, I think for me, if I look back as
a fairly strong willed person,sometimes you can't hear very
well.
Yeah, and my failure is failingto listen.
And I had a couple of scenarios.
You know, I think of mypersonal life, you know, with my
children, my wife.
When they're telling mesomething, I need to put down
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where I really want to go andlisten, because they're trying
to tell me something and if Idon't hear it, ultimately it'll
rear its head again later.
I had another scenario in mywork environment where I
actually had a situation where,in the case of rock, where you
know we're a public-eatedcompany I had this hedge fund
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start to take a position in thecompany and build a position in
the company and then ultimatelythey were making demands as to
what they wanted with respect tothe board, construction and the
direction of the company.
And all of a sudden I had thiscompeting voice to me.
Then, at the same time, I had abank with their agenda and they
had an agenda that says we kindof want to get out of small oil
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and gas companies in Calgary,and I wasn't hearing these two
voices and what happened is Ikept thinking, well, I can keep
this guy happy by doing this,and I can keep this guy happy by
doing that, but in reality Ifailed to hear what they were
really saying and thatultimately ended up in the end
of rock, which was not assuccessful as Avid, and we ended
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up having to sell the companyin the very bottom of the market
.
And so to appease these twomasters that came through and I
wonder sometimes if I would havelistened to them, could I have
done a better job of that?
So I now try to make sure Ilisten.
When someone's telling mesomething.
I should probably hear it and,whether I like it or not, and
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make sure you hear that.
Lisa Peters (16:01):
I've got this being a mum in the back of my head
the kid telling you, telling you, telling you something, and
then it all breaks loose, yeahabsolutely.
Allen Bey (16:11):
I found the front.
This is a very significant one.
Lisa Peters (16:16):
Yeah, you'd think we would learn from there,
though, al, you'd think we wouldtake those learnings from home
and go.
You know what?
We really should listen more.
Allen Bey (16:24):
Yeah, no, I know, it's funny how I'm absolutely
self-talk, right?
Okay, listen, she's sayingsomething.
Lisa Peters (16:32):
Yeah, I should listen.
My husband doesn't talk much.
He's a great listener.
But when he does talk I listen,because he's usually just you
know.
At least I go up and down andI'm all over the place and he
lets me go and he's fine andthen.
But the one time he sayssomething it's like he's talking
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.
I should listen.
This is important.
Allen Bey (16:56):
Yeah, it's exactly right.
Lisa Peters (16:58):
Yeah, all right, all right.
Well, at Leader Impact we wantto grow professionally,
personally and spiritually forincreasing impact.
Would you be willing to sharean example of how the spiritual
makes a practical difference inyour life as a leader?
Allen Bey (17:12):
Yeah, I think the thing for me is you know again,
when you're in the middle ofthat dark time and in the middle
of you know, perseveringagainst what you might think are
all of the odds, it's yourfaith that keeps you persevering
, keeps you getting up at 5.30in your case, and it keeps you
moving forward.
And I had a situation for meparticularly, which I call my
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Job years.
I had about seven of them in arow and in those seven years I
had a lot of, let me say,challenges to me and I was in
the middle of it all.
And I'll give you a couple ofexamples.
You know, I had, you know, I,my first marriage failed, and I
was, I had moved out to toColmox, british Columbia, and it
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was in the process of trying torestore the marriage, but it
didn't work.
I ended up having to come backto Calgary.
I I, my mom was diagnosed withdementia.
This is all happening like inan order of all kinds of things.
And then my oldest son wasdiagnosed with bipolar, and so
now I'm dealing with hisdiagnosis and the struggles with
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mental health and addictionissues.
I had it, my dad was at thesame.
This is all happening like oneright after the other.
My dad lost his hand in theindustrial accident.
He was he was smoothing somesteel on a lathe and tore his
hand off, like it's just okay,you know.
Then you go, then.
Then you know.
If you remember, in 2013 inCalgary we had the floods.
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Our apartment got flooded.
I had to dislocate, you know,relocate from my, from my home.
In the middle of all of that, Iwas on a business trip and I
had a rupture in my colon.
I was diagnosed withdiverticulitis and came this
close to dying.
I came home on the airplane,went straight to the emergency,
was on the hospital bed withinhours.
Wow.
Lisa Peters (18:59):
Obviously.
Allen Bey (19:01):
Then I had a heart infection and then, you know,
and then I had, you know,business challenges started to
happen in the middle of all ofthis.
You know, I had the oil pricecollapse.
We had the, the decisionshareholder, the rope bank.
We had to force the sale at thebottom of the market.
You know, we had, you know, Ihad, you know, then my mom died.
All of this was happening oneright after the other.
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And you're saying, like I wassort of on the page and came,
bring it on, is that all you got?
You get a little, you know, alittle quirky.
And all of that in the middleof this dark period of my life,
right, and it was my faith thatkept me saying, no, god's got a
plan for me, I don't care what'scoming at me, I know he's got a
plan and he has.
He sees what I can't see, andso I just I had this blind faith
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that there are things we'regoing to get better, that I just
had to persevere, right, andthose, through that, you know,
seven-ish years that all of thiswas just happening one right
after the other.
And then things started to turn, you know, as in the, as in the
story, and I, you know, I metmy new wife.
It was the bless, you know, I'mfully blessed with that.
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I, you know, recovered from mydiverticulitis, recovered from
my heart disease, I started mynew opportunity at at a deceptor
with the GTL business and thenfurther on to links which turned
out to be phenomenalopportunity for me.
You know some of my otherinvestments that I had played in
those job years.
The investments were allgetting hit.
Now the investments are allstarting to work.
So, you know, and then and thenmy kids, all you know, came of
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age and all became beautifulyoung adults and so that's kind
of where I'm at now, you know.
I sort of like.
But it was those five to sevenyears in that that perseverance
and persisting With that faith,that I think God's got a bigger,
bigger, better plan for me.
I just don't mean, just don'tlet me give up.
Lisa Peters (20:51):
So have you always had faith.
Like you know, since you wereyoung, were you, were you, did
your family go to church?
Allen Bey (20:58):
No, no, I'm a quote new believer and a fairly,
fairly, you know, fairly youngChristian that would call myself
.
I only Came to know Jesus whenI was about 40.
Wow, you know, I and my, youknow, on that, you know I was an
okay, this is what I see.
And then, as I started to kindof surrender, then I started to
see his hand on my life.
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But even today, you know, lisa,I'm not like a really, you know
I, really I have a strong faithI'm actively engaged in in, in,
you know, my communities, butI'm not what I'm, not a really,
you know, diehard Christian likesome are, and that I think One
of the things that I like about,about where I'm at, is like I
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have this belief that I have mywalk and you have yours.
I Fully honor your walk.
It's, it's your walk with him,not mine, yeah, and so I want to
make sure that if there'sanything I can do to sort of
facilitate that, I will.
But you know that's yourpersonal journey.
Lisa Peters (21:58):
Yeah, I think we all come into someone's life at
a different part of theirjourney, so you don't have to be
.
You know, your faith is just alittle part of someone's life.
They'll meet the next personthat'll take them a little
further.
Because there I have amazingpeople in my life that I always
say, like they almost scare me.
They're so Christian andthey're so amazing in their
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faith and it's like I wish I wasthem and yeah, and they're and
I, I mean I'm, I'm working at it, but I and we all are right.
Allen Bey (22:28):
Isn't that our journey?
Yeah, it's our journey, and I Ialways think to myself, like
you're right, I may not be thethe person that brings them, but
maybe I'm the one who drops aseed or waters a seed.
I.
Lisa Peters (22:41):
Call it.
I call it dripping on them.
Laughter me said I love that.
I'm like, yeah, I'm just alittle drip on them.
Allen Bey (22:49):
Like you know, I'm just a little part of their
journey, so it's a little partof their journey and don't want
to get in the way of it.
But I want to that's great andI do to facilitate that.
And I think, in my opinion, theway you do that and this is
kind of you know is you you justbe truthful and honest and you
walk the talk.
And I think people see that.
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And I have an example of a veryclose friend of mine.
Who I would argue, has broughtme to God through his walk, not
through his words.
Lisa Peters (23:19):
Hmm, it's, it's all about who we surround ourselves
with yeah, we have a choice.
Yeah.
Allen Bey (23:26):
Yeah.
Lisa Peters (23:28):
Okay, well, I do have anything more on those
stories.
Did you want to talk before Igive you my last two questions?
Allen Bey (23:33):
But no, I think that's.
That's all I was hoping to kindof convey today, awesome.
Lisa Peters (23:37):
Okay, well, you're on leader impact, so obviously I
have my questions that we askall our guests.
I mean, as you know, you'repart of leader impact, but we
are dedicated to leaders havinga lasting impact.
So, as you continue throughyour own journey In life, have
you considered what you wantyour faith legacy to be when you
leave this world?
Allen Bey (23:58):
Yeah, you know what's .
It's interesting.
I it's kind of kind of teaseoff of what we were just talking
about.
It's back to I want to havedemonstrated God's love.
Right, I want to have walked itand people to see it, and then
they'll, they'll do what they'lldo with it.
But I want to do havedemonstrate, I want people to
see how I remember him and thisis what this is, how he would
handle that and and and thenthey hopefully are inspired to
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do the same.
And I think you know I wouldcall it soft with witnessing and
you know I'm not, I'm not, youknow, in their face, but I'm,
I'm, I should be consistentlydemonstrating God's love and
Process.
Um, you know, I think the otherthing that's important you know
you don't sometimes forget theplatform you have and that
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people are watching you and theyare and you know, from all
kinds of and they're watchingall of us.
But you know, you know, nomatter what your position in
life, but you do have a platform.
So you know, don't shirk thatResponsibility and make sure
that I, that I step into thatplatform and make sure that I do
that.
One of the things I you know,one of the things I have posted
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on my, on my monitor.
Here is golden life is not tolive forever.
The golden life is to createsomething that does.
Hmm, and so that's the legacyof your faith, I think yeah,
thank you for sharing that.
Lisa Peters (25:18):
I recently attended a funeral.
I had a few funerals this pastweekend and Both were beautiful.
One of them was my nephew'swife, endsley Peters, and she,
as I stood in, as I was at thefuneral.
She was 23 years, 24 years old,died of cancer.
They've been married for twoyears and when I think of what
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legacy she left, she left themost amazing faith legacy.
The church was packed, it wasoverflowed, it was live-streamed
.
She's 24 years old and shechanged lives and she died of
cancer and in her, in her words,she had said I, I don't want
you to turn away from GodBecause of this.
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You, you need to believe more.
This was my purpose, I, it wasa revival.
I, it was amazing.
Allen Bey (26:15):
Anyway, Absolutely Very, very powerful.
Lisa Peters (26:19):
For 24 years old.
Yeah, she changed the world.
Yeah, all right.
Well, let's get happy again.
My final question All guestswhat brings you the greatest joy
?
Allen Bey (26:28):
Okay, so I gotta tell you a funny story.
Lisa Peters (26:31):
Okay.
Allen Bey (26:33):
So I just recently bought a 1971 Barracuda oh, the
other restored street ridemuscle car thing, right.
And I told, I told Cindy, mywife, this is my year of
ridiculous.
This is a ridiculous thing todo, but we did.
And when you take that car andyou drive down the street
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anywhere in the world, like youcome up to a stoplight, people
come over to you and there'smiles of this big and they're
remembering a time in their lifewhen they, when this car was
relevant to them, people isamazing, like I thought, who
would ever thought that thiscould happen?
So that's kind of a funny storyand I love driving the car
around just so people can see itand I can.
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I get I get the reaction oftheir joy.
Yeah, right, but I think youknow, it's a funny kind of
illustration of what you knowsomething relatively simple can
do.
It just gives them a break,right.
It just takes them back to 1971and maybe they were in grade
five and they wanted to get a1971 beer or whatever, and it's
a funny, funny thing.
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But I think for me, you know,as I look at that again, it's
about giving right, giving thatgift right, so they have that,
the gift of that memory.
Me, that's what I was able togive.
I don't know, but I think, whenI look at my career and how it's
evolved in my life with mychildren and my wife and the
people that I that I work withhere, you know, when I can help,
support people, be who they canbe, that's my goal in life and
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it's actually like you know,create something that does live
forever.
It's really in them, right, andso when I get you know, when I
have you know, and and a leaderimpact is very much a part of
that.
So I'm inviting youngprofessionals inside this
company, at Lynx, to join theleader impact movement and
they're showing up and they'reseeing the value of this and
what I believe I'm doing isinvesting in them and so that
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they can be more in their lifeas they move forward.
That's what gives me the most.
I think, wow, look, look, whoknows what they can do right,
and all we might have needed wasa little helping hand along the
way, because I got a littlehelping hand back in the day and
I think that's, that's whatgets me the joy.
Lisa Peters (28:38):
Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah, I love that answer.
We're all just a little part ofsomeone's journey, and if you
can get them a little bit youknow, 71, barracuda.
I want to smile at you, I wantto thank you for joining us.
I many times I come into theseand all I know is I have read
your bio, you know, and I thinkwe think as leaders, we look at
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each other and go.
They're so successful.
There's nothing that's everhappened to them, they've never
had a failure.
And to hear your story and justto be vulnerable and share is a
gift to everyone, and I thinkthat's why I show up here all
the time is because this is justmy little, lisa's little
counseling session of leadership, and I just want to thank you
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for spending the last 30 minuteswith us.
It was fantastic, thank you.
Allen Bey (29:25):
I really appreciate the opportunity to meet you and
spend some time.
Lisa Peters (29:28):
All right Now, if people are listening going, I
want to look up.
I want to look up Allen Bay.
How do we find your, what's thebest place to find you and more
information about you.
Allen Bey (29:38):
Yeah, you bet.
I mean I think if you wentthrough LinkedIn you could,
you'll find me there and thenyou can reach out to me via
LinkedIn, and I reallyappreciate your feedback from
anybody who's curious.
Awesome.
Lisa Peters (29:47):
I love LinkedIn, love social media.
All right, thank you, al.
I appreciate you joining us.
Allen Bey (29:53):
Absolutely.
Lisa Peters (29:53):
All right.
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I'm your host, lisa Peters, andour guest today is Alan Bay.
As a professional engineer withover 40 years of experience in
the oil and gas industry, al'scareer can be characterized as
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entrepreneurial.
His first job once completinguniversity was at Norsen Energy,
and while there, he took everyopportunity to study each
department within the company,soon learning the entire
organization and all aspects ofthe energy business.
At the same time, alan waslearning the energy business, he
also felt a calling to have hisown enterprise.
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After a brief stint at the U ofC MBA program, alan decided to
venture off on his own and starttwo fast food outlets, all
while still working full time atNorsen.
After 13 years at Norsen, hedecided it was time to take a
bigger leap and start his firstoil and gas company.
In 1995, alan started a privateoil and gas company called
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Ardent Energy.
A year later, he would changethe name to Avid Oil and Gas and
take the company public.
Five years later, he sold Avidto Husky Oil and after selling
Avid, he took some time off totravel with his young family and
then started a new publiccompany called Rock Energy in
2002.
Rock persevered through manybusiness cycles and was
eventually sold to Raging Riverin 2016.
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After selling Rock, alanco-founded a new company in
Sceptre Energy to investigatethe opportunity of developing
gas to liquids projects inWestern Canada.
In 2019, he joined Lynx Energyto provide leadership and
support while the companycompleted financial and
management restructuring, andthen to be part of the team
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driving forward.
Today, he serves as thepresident and CEO of Lynx Energy
.
Welcome to the show, al.
Allen Bey (02:24):
Nice to see you, lisa .
Thank you.
Lisa Peters (02:25):
It is nice to have you.
Now, the one thing I took outof your well, this is
interesting, I took this out ofthe last guest was you have your
ICDD designation and I feelthis is floating around me like
it's time I should take my own.
At what point did you decide totake that for yourself?
Allen Bey (02:44):
Yeah, actually that probably happened right at the
time I was selling Rock Energyand sort of looking at what's
the next development of mycareer as I move into the next
chapter of my life, so to speak.
So what I wanted to do was sortof get that foundational
training that the ICDD provides.
The other thing that it gave mewas, you know, it's kind of a
refresh MBA I would call it, andif you've ever looked into the
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ICD program, it's actually verythorough and you'll get a good
refresh on the businessprinciples and what's the issues
of the day.
You'll meet a lot of reallyinteresting people.
Really interesting people.
That's probably the one thing.
But the other thing I realizedis I had been a director many,
many times through all thosecompanies that you had mentioned
earlier.
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I was chairman of the board anddirector at Avid and Ardenton,
you know, Rock and nonprofitorganizations.
So I had done a lot ofdirectorship roles.
I thought, well, it's a betterlearn how to do it.
So actually it was a reallygreat step for me and I'm quite
glad that I did that.
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So I highly recommend people tolook into that if they're
looking for their career.
Lisa Peters (03:51):
Yeah, and I think, as the last guess, I had noted
that a lot of women want to getinvolved in boards and chairs.
I think sometimes we're justafraid, maybe we don't think we
know enough, but they're inroles of leadership now.
So I have actually got a callinto a group that is, you know,
I see their name.
On this, I'm like I'm going tofind out more.
So thank you for answering thatquestion.
Allen Bey (04:14):
No, absolutely.
I think it kind of solidifiesthe experience that you've
already got, yeah, and I thinkthat don't underestimate what
you've already learned, andcompanies young companies today,
with young entrepreneursleading them, need that help.
Lisa Peters (04:28):
Yeah.
Allen Bey (04:28):
And that's a way to give back, in fact.
Lisa Peters (04:30):
Good, all right.
So for anyone listening, theseare special podcasts.
We're interviewing some of ourleader, impact members, like Al,
and we're asking them four mainquestions.
So this is our third in a row,but we really talk about pivotal
turning points, best principlesof success, greatest failures.
So we go through all thosequestions and then, of course,
we end with our two favorites.
So we're going to start with.
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We're going to start with ourfirst one and, al, you know what
we want to hear yourprofessional story and how you
got to where you are today.
So we're wondering if you cangive us a snapshot of some
pivotal turning points alongthat journey.
Allen Bey (05:04):
Great, you bet, lisa.
So I think you know you had agreat summary of my career in
the introduction there and oneof the things that is
foundational to me and comesfrom my father is
entrepreneurship, and I'vealways thought that I was going
to be, you know, running my owncompany, doing whatever that.
But one of the delusions that Ithink a lot of people think of
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when they say, well, I want tohave my own company because then
I can be my own boss, thenumber one lie as soon as you
have your own company, everybodyis your boss.
So you've got to understandthat and you're not getting away
from something, you're gettinginto something.
So when I first started mycareer, after getting my
mechanical engineering degreewhich I sort of believe to be
foundational, just as you know,a good science degree that I can
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understand and it can apply toalmost any industry that's where
that went.
But I went to that Norse and atNorse they, you know, blessed me
with the opportunity to gothroughout the company and I was
always on the place of.
This is my learning ground.
This is where I can learn howto how these kinds of companies
operate, because I knew that ifI tried to have my own oil
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company coming out, this comingout the gate, that's probably
not going to work.
So you needed to spend sometime and I think, learn the
business and spend some time andlet you know, let those
mistakes happen that you willmake, and I think that's what
prevents you from, you know,making those bigger mistakes
later.
So I think I looked at time atNorse and it's foundational to
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my career, not only in thetraining but in the network I
was able to build.
So you look at all the people Imet at that time.
I was there, a company, almost13 years and I ended my time
there as their manager ofacquisitions and divestitures
and as the manager of A&D.
You knew everybody in the city,like everybody wanted to buy
and sell properties with you andcompanies.
We're doing all that and so Ihad this huge network that
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really was, you know,transformational in allowing me
to start Ardent, which was thenext company which turned into
Avid.
And so, again, it's all aboutthe training, all about laying
out the path forward and runningto something, not from
something.
And you know, the Avid storywas very successful, very
successful.
Actually, within five years,you know, we took the company
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from zero to 6,000 girls, whichis a reasonably good size
company at the time.
So the T'Hoskey life lookedgood, didn't need to work again.
Life is grand, right, but I'monly 42 years old, you can't
just sit around the house, right?
So you got to spend some time,you know, find out what it is
that you really want to do,spend some time with your kids
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and life at the time and say butthen after a while you get a
little itchy.
So that's when I started Rock,and Rock was a much more longer
term project, you know, almost14 to 15 years.
So again in Rock, the thing thathappened there was you had a
lot of people come and gothrough the course of those 15
years and you saw some businesscycles.
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The company transformed itself afew times, you know, in oil or
in gas or in heavy oil, or inpolymer floods, technology,
things like that all of whichwas very fun, and you know a lot
of people go through yourorganization in that timeframe
and I really, really enjoyed thefact that we had people start
their career with us, getmarried, have kids and go on
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with their life and you'reproviding employment for them
and they're providing value foryou, obviously, and again, being
a part of that was quiterewarding for me, and so I
looked at that as like, okay,there's more to you know.
I want to be a part of helpingpeople develop themselves and
their careers and that kind ofthing, and so that's what Rock
was.
In fact, at the very end, whenwe finally sold the company, I
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had this book made and hadpictures of all of the, you know
, main assets we had whichpeople would all be a part of
making.
But we had the names of everysingle employee that ever worked
there at the back of this bookand I was able to get that book
to everybody that at one time orwere currently working there.
But again, a bit of a hey, youknow, we spend a lot of time
together.
Yeah, you know, and Iappreciate that.
Lisa Peters (08:59):
Yeah, I know what I love about your story when I
think of Norson and all theopportunities you had there, and
then the companies that youwere part of started.
You know is that we pivot inlife.
So you know yours was a.
You got the choice to pivot,you got the.
You know you weren't fired oranything.
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But I think of people who getfired they see it as a negative.
It's like no, take this as anopportunity to go.
I'm going to take what Ilearned here and go to the next
thing.
So you may feel it negative,but it's like look at it as an
opportunity to pivot right.
Allen Bey (09:35):
Absolutely.
Lisa Peters (09:36):
I used that word a lot two, three years ago.
I was like you know, when I wasin event industry.
It disappeared, you know, for alittle while, but it was like
what do I get to pivot to?
Allen Bey (09:46):
Absolutely.
You've got to have thatconfidence to, like you did, to
think of it that way and I hateto admit I mean I've had to let
a lot of people go over thecourse of those years.
You know, not working out thejob isn't working out for them,
and that's always my message.
Like this job isn't for you,you need to go find the one that
you will, and I don't know of ascenario where that wasn't true
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and almost all of them, in time, found where they needed to be.
Lisa Peters (10:11):
Yeah, that sounds a little bit like Radical Candor
by Kim Scott.
Did you read that one?
Allen Bey (10:15):
We have read that.
Lisa Peters (10:17):
No, this just isn't for you.
But there's something reallygreat for you out there, Not
here.
Allen Bey (10:22):
Absolutely.
Lisa Peters (10:24):
All right.
Well, we want to talk aboutyour best principle of success.
So if you can give us your bestprinciple of success and tell
us a story that illustrates that, yeah, I think the best one is
probably perseverance.
Allen Bey (10:39):
When you're in the middle of something and you're
moving forward, you can't alwayssee how it's going to work out.
So you've got to have thecourage and the nimbleness, like
you say, to pivot as theopportunity presents itself.
And at the time that you're atthis dark place you probably
can't see an opportunity.
So you've just got to perseverewith the belief, the
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foundational belief, thatsomething's going to come up and
it's going to provide you anavenue and a way to the next
place, so that you'll find thenext thing.
And I know when I first started, for example, avid, I'm coming
out of Norse and, yes, I've gotthis great contact database, but
I don't have any money.
I don't have a property, Idon't have anything.
It takes us where to get thingsgoing.
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When I was a single one guy, Iwas sitting.
A buddy of mine lent me hisfile room and I set up my office
in his file room.
Actually, I actually strung atelephone wire from the T-bar
ceiling so I could plug in myfax machine, which is.
We had those back then andthat's how we got going.
But I had no clue what wasgoing to actually materialize as
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I moved forward.
So I had this maybe blind faiththat I was going to find
something in some time, and Ijust persevered through and the
Avid story worked out to be very, very successful and you just
don't know where it's going tocome from.
So I know a lot of people liketo say well, I just want to plan
the next three steps so theycan get to the fourth step.
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Sometimes it doesn't work thatway and you've got to have the
faith to take a step and whenyou get there, you'll see more
stones in the path that you canstep on.
Lisa Peters (12:15):
Yeah, when you talk about perseverance and I love
that you mentioned the darkplace.
And I just wonder when I thinkif I'm in a dark place, I always
think of the people I surroundmyself with and I just wonder
when you were ever in a darkplace, what did you do?
What was that thing you did youmake the call?
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You?
Allen Bey (12:39):
Yeah, for me.
I'm a very structured kind ofguy.
I like to have routine in mylife and so I would never stay
at home.
I would always get up, go towork, try to figure it out, even
though there wasn't a work todo.
I remember getting in theoffice in the early days of the
habit and you're looking aroundand you're what do I do now?
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And you know that you just gotto keep putting one foot in
front of the other.
You keep meeting people, youkeep moving forward and you just
have to have I think again it'sback to that perseverance and
you just got to believe.
You just got to keep puttingone foot in front of the other.
And it's just.
For me, structure was important, so I knew I had to get up and
do that and that got me thereand I had no clue what was going
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to happen the day, butsomething always did Small thing
that started to grow intosomething else.
Lisa Peters (13:26):
Yeah, I love that.
When I had the world cut theevent industry off, I continued
to get up at 5.30 every morning.
I didn't really have anywhereto go.
I was like I'm going to get up.
Allen Bey (13:40):
No, it's exactly.
You get up and you don't knowwhat's going to face yourself.
But I'll tell you one thing Ifyou're not awake, you're not
going to see it.
Lisa Peters (13:47):
Right, get ready.
Yeah, all right.
Well, here's a great questionabout failures and mistakes.
I mean, I think we both know welearn more from our failures
and mistakes than our successes.
So would you share one of yourgreatest failures or mistakes
and what you learned from it?
Allen Bey (14:05):
Yeah, you know, I think for me, if I look back as
a fairly strong willed person,sometimes you can't hear very
well.
Yeah, and my failure is failingto listen.
And I had a couple of scenarios.
You know, I think of mypersonal life, you know, with my
children, my wife.
When they're telling mesomething, I need to put down
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where I really want to go andlisten, because they're trying
to tell me something and if Idon't hear it, ultimately it'll
rear its head again later.
I had another scenario in mywork environment where I
actually had a situation where,in the case of rock, where you
know we're a public-eatedcompany I had this hedge fund
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start to take a position in thecompany and build a position in
the company and then ultimatelythey were making demands as to
what they wanted with respect tothe board, construction and the
direction of the company.
And all of a sudden I had thiscompeting voice to me.
Then, at the same time, I had abank with their agenda and they
had an agenda that says we kindof want to get out of small oil
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and gas companies in Calgary,and I wasn't hearing these two
voices and what happened is Ikept thinking, well, I can keep
this guy happy by doing this,and I can keep this guy happy by
doing that, but in reality Ifailed to hear what they were
really saying and thatultimately ended up in the end
of rock, which was not assuccessful as Avid, and we ended
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up having to sell the companyin the very bottom of the market
.
And so to appease these twomasters that came through and I
wonder sometimes if I would havelistened to them, could I have
done a better job of that?
So I now try to make sure Ilisten.
When someone's telling mesomething.
I should probably hear it and,whether I like it or not, and
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make sure you hear that.
Lisa Peters (16:01):
I've got this being a mum in the back of my head
the kid telling you, telling you, telling you something, and
then it all breaks loose, yeahabsolutely.
Allen Bey (16:11):
I found the front.
This is a very significant one.
Lisa Peters (16:16):
Yeah, you'd think we would learn from there,
though, al, you'd think we wouldtake those learnings from home
and go.
You know what?
We really should listen more.
Allen Bey (16:24):
Yeah, no, I know, it's funny how I'm absolutely
self-talk, right?
Okay, listen, she's sayingsomething.
Lisa Peters (16:32):
Yeah, I should listen.
My husband doesn't talk much.
He's a great listener.
But when he does talk I listen,because he's usually just you
know.
At least I go up and down andI'm all over the place and he
lets me go and he's fine andthen.
But the one time he sayssomething it's like he's talking
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.
I should listen.
This is important.
Allen Bey (16:56):
Yeah, it's exactly right.
Lisa Peters (16:58):
Yeah, all right, all right.
Well, at Leader Impact we wantto grow professionally,
personally and spiritually forincreasing impact.
Would you be willing to sharean example of how the spiritual
makes a practical difference inyour life as a leader?
Allen Bey (17:12):
Yeah, I think the thing for me is you know again,
when you're in the middle ofthat dark time and in the middle
of you know, perseveringagainst what you might think are
all of the odds, it's yourfaith that keeps you persevering
, keeps you getting up at 5.30in your case, and it keeps you
moving forward.
And I had a situation for meparticularly, which I call my
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Job years.
I had about seven of them in arow and in those seven years I
had a lot of, let me say,challenges to me and I was in
the middle of it all.
And I'll give you a couple ofexamples.
You know, I had, you know, I,my first marriage failed, and I
was, I had moved out to toColmox, british Columbia, and it
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was in the process of trying torestore the marriage, but it
didn't work.
I ended up having to come backto Calgary.
I I, my mom was diagnosed withdementia.
This is all happening like inan order of all kinds of things.
And then my oldest son wasdiagnosed with bipolar, and so
now I'm dealing with hisdiagnosis and the struggles with
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mental health and addictionissues.
I had it, my dad was at thesame.
This is all happening like oneright after the other.
My dad lost his hand in theindustrial accident.
He was he was smoothing somesteel on a lathe and tore his
hand off, like it's just okay,you know.
Then you go, then.
Then you know.
If you remember, in 2013 inCalgary we had the floods.
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Our apartment got flooded.
I had to dislocate, you know,relocate from my, from my home.
In the middle of all of that, Iwas on a business trip and I
had a rupture in my colon.
I was diagnosed withdiverticulitis and came this
close to dying.
I came home on the airplane,went straight to the emergency,
was on the hospital bed withinhours.
Wow.
Lisa Peters (18:59):
Obviously.
Allen Bey (19:01):
Then I had a heart infection and then, you know,
and then I had, you know,business challenges started to
happen in the middle of all ofthis.
You know, I had the oil pricecollapse.
We had the, the decisionshareholder, the rope bank.
We had to force the sale at thebottom of the market.
You know, we had, you know, Ihad, you know, then my mom died.
All of this was happening oneright after the other.
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And you're saying, like I wassort of on the page and came,
bring it on, is that all you got?
You get a little, you know, alittle quirky.
And all of that in the middleof this dark period of my life,
right, and it was my faith thatkept me saying, no, god's got a
plan for me, I don't care what'scoming at me, I know he's got a
plan and he has.
He sees what I can't see, andso I just I had this blind faith
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that there are things we'regoing to get better, that I just
had to persevere, right, andthose, through that, you know,
seven-ish years that all of thiswas just happening one right
after the other.
And then things started to turn, you know, as in the, as in the
story, and I, you know, I metmy new wife.
It was the bless, you know, I'mfully blessed with that.
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I, you know, recovered from mydiverticulitis, recovered from
my heart disease, I started mynew opportunity at at a deceptor
with the GTL business and thenfurther on to links which turned
out to be phenomenalopportunity for me.
You know some of my otherinvestments that I had played in
those job years.
The investments were allgetting hit.
Now the investments are allstarting to work.
So, you know, and then and thenmy kids, all you know, came of
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age and all became beautifulyoung adults and so that's kind
of where I'm at now, you know.
I sort of like.
But it was those five to sevenyears in that that perseverance
and persisting With that faith,that I think God's got a bigger,
bigger, better plan for me.
I just don't mean, just don'tlet me give up.
Lisa Peters (20:51):
So have you always had faith.
Like you know, since you wereyoung, were you, were you, did
your family go to church?
Allen Bey (20:58):
No, no, I'm a quote new believer and a fairly,
fairly, you know, fairly youngChristian that would call myself
.
I only Came to know Jesus whenI was about 40.
Wow, you know, I and my, youknow, on that, you know I was an
okay, this is what I see.
And then, as I started to kindof surrender, then I started to
see his hand on my life.
(21:19):
But even today, you know, lisa,I'm not like a really, you know
I, really I have a strong faithI'm actively engaged in in, in,
you know, my communities, butI'm not what I'm, not a really,
you know, diehard Christian likesome are, and that I think One
of the things that I like about,about where I'm at, is like I
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have this belief that I have mywalk and you have yours.
I Fully honor your walk.
It's, it's your walk with him,not mine, yeah, and so I want to
make sure that if there'sanything I can do to sort of
facilitate that, I will.
But you know that's yourpersonal journey.
Lisa Peters (21:58):
Yeah, I think we all come into someone's life at
a different part of theirjourney, so you don't have to be
.
You know, your faith is just alittle part of someone's life.
They'll meet the next personthat'll take them a little
further.
Because there I have amazingpeople in my life that I always
say, like they almost scare me.
They're so Christian andthey're so amazing in their
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faith and it's like I wish I wasthem and yeah, and they're and
I, I mean I'm, I'm working at it, but I and we all are right.
Allen Bey (22:28):
Isn't that our journey?
Yeah, it's our journey, and I Ialways think to myself, like
you're right, I may not be thethe person that brings them, but
maybe I'm the one who drops aseed or waters a seed.
I.
Lisa Peters (22:41):
Call it.
I call it dripping on them.
Laughter me said I love that.
I'm like, yeah, I'm just alittle drip on them.
Allen Bey (22:49):
Like you know, I'm just a little part of their
journey, so it's a little partof their journey and don't want
to get in the way of it.
But I want to that's great andI do to facilitate that.
And I think, in my opinion, theway you do that and this is
kind of you know is you you justbe truthful and honest and you
walk the talk.
And I think people see that.
(23:10):
And I have an example of a veryclose friend of mine.
Who I would argue, has broughtme to God through his walk, not
through his words.
Lisa Peters (23:19):
Hmm, it's, it's all about who we surround ourselves
with yeah, we have a choice.
Yeah.
Allen Bey (23:26):
Yeah.
Lisa Peters (23:28):
Okay, well, I do have anything more on those
stories.
Did you want to talk before Igive you my last two questions?
Allen Bey (23:33):
But no, I think that's.
That's all I was hoping to kindof convey today, awesome.
Lisa Peters (23:37):
Okay, well, you're on leader impact, so obviously I
have my questions that we askall our guests.
I mean, as you know, you'repart of leader impact, but we
are dedicated to leaders havinga lasting impact.
So, as you continue throughyour own journey In life, have
you considered what you wantyour faith legacy to be when you
leave this world?
Allen Bey (23:58):
Yeah, you know what's .
It's interesting.
I it's kind of kind of teaseoff of what we were just talking
about.
It's back to I want to havedemonstrated God's love.
Right, I want to have walked itand people to see it, and then
they'll, they'll do what they'lldo with it.
But I want to do havedemonstrate, I want people to
see how I remember him and thisis what this is, how he would
handle that and and and thenthey hopefully are inspired to
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do the same.
And I think you know I wouldcall it soft with witnessing and
you know I'm not, I'm not, youknow, in their face, but I'm,
I'm, I should be consistentlydemonstrating God's love and
Process.
Um, you know, I think the otherthing that's important you know
you don't sometimes forget theplatform you have and that
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people are watching you and theyare and you know, from all
kinds of and they're watchingall of us.
But you know, you know, nomatter what your position in
life, but you do have a platform.
So you know, don't shirk thatResponsibility and make sure
that I, that I step into thatplatform and make sure that I do
that.
One of the things I you know,one of the things I have posted
(25:03):
on my, on my monitor.
Here is golden life is not tolive forever.
The golden life is to createsomething that does.
Hmm, and so that's the legacyof your faith, I think yeah,
thank you for sharing that.
Lisa Peters (25:18):
I recently attended a funeral.
I had a few funerals this pastweekend and Both were beautiful.
One of them was my nephew'swife, endsley Peters, and she,
as I stood in, as I was at thefuneral.
She was 23 years, 24 years old,died of cancer.
They've been married for twoyears and when I think of what
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legacy she left, she left themost amazing faith legacy.
The church was packed, it wasoverflowed, it was live-streamed
.
She's 24 years old and shechanged lives and she died of
cancer and in her, in her words,she had said I, I don't want
you to turn away from GodBecause of this.
(26:04):
You, you need to believe more.
This was my purpose, I, it wasa revival.
I, it was amazing.
Allen Bey (26:15):
Anyway, Absolutely Very, very powerful.
Lisa Peters (26:19):
For 24 years old.
Yeah, she changed the world.
Yeah, all right.
Well, let's get happy again.
My final question All guestswhat brings you the greatest joy
?
Allen Bey (26:28):
Okay, so I gotta tell you a funny story.
Lisa Peters (26:31):
Okay.
Allen Bey (26:33):
So I just recently bought a 1971 Barracuda oh, the
other restored street ridemuscle car thing, right.
And I told, I told Cindy, mywife, this is my year of
ridiculous.
This is a ridiculous thing todo, but we did.
And when you take that car andyou drive down the street
(26:54):
anywhere in the world, like youcome up to a stoplight, people
come over to you and there'smiles of this big and they're
remembering a time in their lifewhen they, when this car was
relevant to them, people isamazing, like I thought, who
would ever thought that thiscould happen?
So that's kind of a funny storyand I love driving the car
around just so people can see itand I can.
(27:15):
I get I get the reaction oftheir joy.
Yeah, right, but I think youknow, it's a funny kind of
illustration of what you knowsomething relatively simple can
do.
It just gives them a break,right.
It just takes them back to 1971and maybe they were in grade
five and they wanted to get a1971 beer or whatever, and it's
a funny, funny thing.
(27:35):
But I think for me, you know,as I look at that again, it's
about giving right, giving thatgift right, so they have that,
the gift of that memory.
Me, that's what I was able togive.
I don't know, but I think, whenI look at my career and how it's
evolved in my life with mychildren and my wife and the
people that I that I work withhere, you know, when I can help,
support people, be who they canbe, that's my goal in life and
(27:59):
it's actually like you know,create something that does live
forever.
It's really in them, right, andso when I get you know, when I
have you know, and and a leaderimpact is very much a part of
that.
So I'm inviting youngprofessionals inside this
company, at Lynx, to join theleader impact movement and
they're showing up and they'reseeing the value of this and
what I believe I'm doing isinvesting in them and so that
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they can be more in their lifeas they move forward.
That's what gives me the most.
I think, wow, look, look, whoknows what they can do right,
and all we might have needed wasa little helping hand along the
way, because I got a littlehelping hand back in the day and
I think that's, that's whatgets me the joy.
Lisa Peters (28:38):
Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah, I love that answer.
We're all just a little part ofsomeone's journey, and if you
can get them a little bit youknow, 71, barracuda.
I want to smile at you, I wantto thank you for joining us.
I many times I come into theseand all I know is I have read
your bio, you know, and I thinkwe think as leaders, we look at
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each other and go.
They're so successful.
There's nothing that's everhappened to them, they've never
had a failure.
And to hear your story and justto be vulnerable and share is a
gift to everyone, and I thinkthat's why I show up here all
the time is because this is justmy little, lisa's little
counseling session of leadership, and I just want to thank you
(29:22):
for spending the last 30 minuteswith us.
It was fantastic, thank you.
Allen Bey (29:25):
I really appreciate the opportunity to meet you and
spend some time.
Lisa Peters (29:28):
All right Now, if people are listening going, I
want to look up.
I want to look up Allen Bay.
How do we find your, what's thebest place to find you and more
information about you.
Allen Bey (29:38):
Yeah, you bet.
I mean I think if you wentthrough LinkedIn you could,
you'll find me there and thenyou can reach out to me via
LinkedIn, and I reallyappreciate your feedback from
anybody who's curious.
Awesome.
Lisa Peters (29:47):
I love LinkedIn, love social media.
All right, thank you, al.
I appreciate you joining us.
Allen Bey (29:53):
Absolutely.
Lisa Peters (29:53):
All right.
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