December 2, 2025 • 62 mins
Romain et Esther revienne au micro du podcast 2 ans plus tard pour nous parler de la manière dont leur pratique du trail, et notamment de l'ultra, a évolué.
Et il y en a eu des courses depuis notre premier enregistrement : Diagonale des Fous, Madère, CCC, TDS, GR20 et tour du Beaufortain en off... et cette année, Romain et Esther se sont frottés à un format différent de ce dont ils avaient l'habitude jusqu'alors, à savoir la course à étape.
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SPEAKER_04 (00:05):
Hello hello, we're going to frapped the podcast of
the boss.
(00:43):
Attention, Roma Esther,bienvenue on the podcast.
(01:10):
I think it's the first episodethat I've been in presential.
So what that will do audio.
But I'm very content to have anew micro podcast, the frapper,
to talk a little bit of trail,ultra, a format a bit different
this time, because we've got anexperience.
(01:31):
It was not the first time thatwe had a course attached, right?
So very show for us to see.
(02:05):
The link are in the descriptionof the episode, so if you want,
and now that's it, the firstquestion is the course?
What's happening during theDIAG?
Is there a great changement,great project that we have to
partake?
SPEAKER_03 (02:28):
I think we have a lot of kilometers at the end
these two days.
I quit my life of restaurateurfor coach sportified.
Esther is professionalism in thecreation of contention, visual,
graphism, photos, videos.
(02:58):
And we went to the course attackin Maroc in one seminar.
SPEAKER_04 (03:05):
Coach sportive, you can see what?
Try to be.
SPEAKER_03 (04:47):
And this course at the end.
And then we are two in pauseinvernal of two semas.
Franchement I think it's good tosee that.
But it's finished this day.
(05:16):
We're at Shenzhen for a marqueeand it's kind of super too much
of this environment that weknow.
I think it's atypic.
I think he lives a little bit inthe future also, so we'll
decouri all that.
unknown (05:38):
Top.
SPEAKER_04 (05:45):
After this GR20 on off in the great light, and we
didn't try, but I think it'sRomain who had the project
initially or in mode trail, andEsther had already fair also.
SPEAKER_03 (06:00):
We're going to go.
In general, it's myorganization.
It's my dad that the format GR20on mode trail was six years, and
we were saying that it was aformat super ambitious.
In the memoir.
(06:21):
Esther the quatrime year.
But now franchise, it's nothappening, and it's really an
experience of life incredible.
SPEAKER_04 (06:31):
It would be an episode.
It's not a show, but we find anepisode.
Because it's interesting.
It was in 2019, in six years.
(06:52):
They were in mode rando, becausethe trail existed.
It was really rando rapid.
And we were a little disaveny.
And I told you that when we wereexchanged, it was the verse.
The people who fought really for15 years, it's a little bit that
surprised.
SPEAKER_03 (07:10):
We went to other groups who lived in six, we saw
others who were in eight, don'tknow, and after a day, and they
want to profit also.
(07:39):
No, no, we have.
It's really important to planifythe things for correctly, to
respect the time of recuperationalso, to evitate the blessings.
SPEAKER_04 (08:45):
And the CCC, for appeal, you said if I tromp it,
it's 101 kilometers, is that?
23 hours, okay.
Well, but it's solid.
SPEAKER_02 (09:11):
It's really the way in which I finished my course, I
think.
To constatate that the 30derivatives, I said I could
continue.
And in kilometer 90, I captainthat it's like I was at
kilometer 20.
(09:37):
And it was 22 hours that it is,and I thought that I rejoiced
nothing to terminate the earlykilometers because I was a big.
No, no, no, it was Romain forthat because he had to find the
volume intelligent, and shehabituated my work.
SPEAKER_03 (10:15):
That's 2023.
SPEAKER_04 (10:20):
It was after the diagnosis.
I remember you said that you hada passive with blessing.
The distance was complicated.
It was oof to see that two yearsafter you finish the CCC.
SPEAKER_02 (10:34):
I thought she was reparted at zero, I made my
counter zero, I recommencedprogressively, I've had enough,
I alimented correctly, I've seena progressivity, and it was also
the intensity absurd.
(11:02):
Franklin has really changed myentrainment I had intensity and
I had a lot of volume with bitof intensity, per moment, but I
think that it's what I alsomean.
Because I think in entraining Ishocked enormously my
(11:22):
articulations, my heart.
And as I adored the technique, Ithink that it was and I had
really the muscles adequate,alright.
And boot to boot two days later.
SPEAKER_03 (11:36):
But progressivity, alimentation, somewhere, and we
repeat the time, but it'llsimply make place.
And planification, in fact.
SPEAKER_04 (11:48):
And period of record.
And the big coach.
But you have a navigation.
SPEAKER_01 (11:56):
I don't have any.
It's not right.
But the coach!
SPEAKER_03 (12:03):
When you're a five year old, you've got a nav, you
have 14 million plus, I'veépargna that.
SPEAKER_02 (12:11):
No, no, I'm gonna accompany psychologically when
he has 15 or 20.
SPEAKER_03 (12:21):
Terrible.
SPEAKER_04 (12:31):
But in the way, it's kind of an exercise, it's genius
because psychologically it'sinteresting.
It was not so monstrous as whatyou did, but I've seen I don't
know if you've got plus of 12 or14.
(12:55):
But when you arrive at the sixmonths and you say I've not been
five, psychological it'sinteresting.
And then for the cardio, I thinkit's hyper pure.
SPEAKER_03 (13:09):
So you can typically make the puissance on the eye,
the eccentric on descent, it'swhat you reproduce in course
also.
So it's important.
And after passing two, three,four, six, six, six hours in the
same boss, psychological,mentally, it's not resilient.
SPEAKER_04 (13:29):
It's clear.
I read one of the series that Iwas at the Saint Victor, it was
the cart of the day, so I was aporc.
And with the transport in theeyes, I had the eyes a little
bit fragile, so the eyes peak,etc.
And the night comes to tomb, shewas at the 12th or a thing.
(13:51):
And too much at the SaintVictor, it's really an effort
lamentable.
And then there's a fan who wasalso who arrived and at an end
where there was no person.
And I think it attended likeperson on this section.
And then I arrived from a bœufand the eyes, and I've been in
the regard that I was like,what's it?
(14:15):
But excellent.
Excellent, excellent.
The GR20, if you have bothmemoirs, the tour of Beaufortin'
off, it was not reallypreviously.
SPEAKER_03 (14:28):
We have two semi.
It's quite physically.
SPEAKER_02 (14:45):
Physically, yeah, but I think mentally I tried to
realize what happens at GR20, isthat you can find 24, 25, 26, in
fact.
So you have two bornes in onehour, then in fact.
And you know it has a rapport onkilometers that is completely
(15:08):
different.
And Romain announced that forthe Beaufortin, he had provided
a journey a bit quick.
It was not very long as Gervain.
It was a journey, it was cool.
And I was told in crazy that Ithink we were quite like 7
(15:31):
hours, 18, 19 hours.
And in fact, I was, Ivan, and Iwent to one day to get more than
40 borns.
Wait, it's that, no?
I'm trying to.
(15:53):
And I said, I guess I don't knowthe CCC.
Because in fact, why do you havethree years for 120 bornes?
And so on the CCC.
(16:14):
And you know, I think that itwas completely demoralized to me
what I mean.
And in fact, the Beaufortin,I've got to one, two, three, and
in fact, it's not.
(16:40):
And at the moment, I've askedfor the CCC.
Because in fact she had totallymentally like Romain me told me
session Dis-toi that to whatyou're enjoying to vivid, those
days by the which you'reenjoying, it's mental or
physical, but you can return tothe CCC and you know that you
(17:03):
can survive.
And it's exactly that.
SPEAKER_03 (17:11):
Entry difficulty, facile.
SPEAKER_02 (17:13):
And at the CCC she was mad at the 40th, and in the
final No and the final you weresuper after the 40th.
But no, it was just in theeuphoria, I think, of Ghervin
that we are reparted on theBeaufortin.
SPEAKER_04 (17:31):
I'm sure because we were changing after the Gervin,
after we were on the city.
SPEAKER_03 (17:43):
It's the second year of Girvin.
The lending two weeks.
SPEAKER_02 (17:48):
The lending at the Garvin on the taxi, I said, He
said, I prefer the prochainitiness.
SPEAKER_03 (18:04):
And the TDS you have Romain?
Frankly, I've adored.
Yeah, but yeah, but I thinkalready if you perform it to
(18:28):
preoccupied and class.
And if you form physically, it'slike that you perform.
And you have all this stress ofyou doubling, you're not at my
time to pass.
The objective was really to kiffthat ultra and to get a course
abouti.
And I adored from the day afterthe time.
(18:49):
I've had a period verydifficult.
The environment of the TDS isgrandiose, it's a montagne, it's
fabulous.
I got my course.
SPEAKER_04 (19:06):
TDS for appearance of Duke of Savoy is 145
kilometers and 900.
SPEAKER_03 (19:14):
It's a little bit more long.
We have 153, I think.
And 900 and course technique,you know, or what?
Alright, it's more technicalthan the UTMB, for example,
which I've been doing, but thetechnicality not for great
positive and negative.
(19:36):
It's not technical like IDAG orlike certain sentimentaires.
But we put great pants positiveand negative.
There are big parts at the endof the course, there are little
portions where there arecailloux where they are a bit
(19:56):
accidental, but it's not supertechnical.
It's not facility, but it's notsuper technical.
SPEAKER_04 (20:05):
It was the first course for you when you had the
changing mindset, and no, butfor ultra, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (20:28):
It's completely the optic in which I work for all my
courses already, in fact.
SPEAKER_02 (20:32):
And you know what or no, but it's super interesting
because he had the GR20 at myrhythm, he burns at my rhythm.
So he burned at low intensity,like for the Beaufortin.
And in fact, I think very wellthat he had said, but he lived
at burn and he arrived at theboat of all that sort of
(20:54):
fatigue, sort of, he had said itwould be almost the first part
of the course a little bit likeI started with Esther.
And to the same conditions forthe moment.
SPEAKER_03 (21:09):
The concept inversing, in fact.
I really didn't say I had theGRM in six years old, I would
have been with the same alarmwith Esther.
And I think that it was abattery, and I think that you
would potentially be blessed.
(21:30):
And then on these, I realizedthe capacity that my corner had
to get a volume enormous sort ofsensation of the room.
And after I had a concept of mycoach who made if you have top
(21:54):
100 on the TDS on the firstkilometer 50, it's 300.
Okay.
It's kind of hallucinant fromconcept.
Imagine to accept 300 at acourse, the first course if you
arrive at the one.
So I've been in 150 or 180, Idon't know exactly what.
SPEAKER_04 (22:31):
That's interesting like instruction.
SPEAKER_03 (22:33):
And you see, and accept to doubly by 300, 400
mechanics the first year, it'snot evident, but in fact you
want that after the course, butyou have the explosive, and you
can see the mind.
And the eight early kilometersthat work, you represent 15
(22:56):
mechanics, imagine?
SPEAKER_04 (23:01):
In plain night at 4 hours of the hour so that the
art of the bonus gestion onultra history with the courses
attack, how we have to coverthat?
Because it's kind of verydifferent from effort, concept
of a TDS, CCC, of the DIAG, youknow what you think, but I don't
(23:23):
have to say two sports, twoapproaches that have really.
SPEAKER_02 (23:44):
The first time we had an idea, what we can see.
SPEAKER_03 (23:53):
It was in February in Morocco in the desert.
For what course?
The Trans Sahara Marathon.
Okay.
He has got seven, he finally 10years second after his friend.
(24:16):
And he organized two courses,the Transahara Marathon and the
Transatlas Marathon.
And we were invited in Februaryfor creating the course.
And when we proposed, we hadhesitated at all or photos,
videos, it had not been superlovely.
(24:36):
And we are arrived at the backside of attempts, and we had a
clack of incredible in terms ofpays, in terms of efforts,
succession of efforts year afteryears, the fact that evolution
with a group on plain nature,there are plenty of things that
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run in these courses, which youremove an ultra one day, of a
few years, but that's reallyexceptional for these.
SPEAKER_02 (26:35):
After a chemist, a little the soil is a little bit
volcanic.
And then for it could be akilometers and kilometers where
it's plenty, so that demands aneffort mental incredible, for
the chaleur.
SPEAKER_03 (26:57):
In February, it was a little bit of a little bit of
a little bit of 20 with 25, youknow.
SPEAKER_02 (27:04):
And in February it was very sharp the morning and
super fresh night.
SPEAKER_03 (27:13):
And then in November it was snow the morning, and the
night it was blue.
SPEAKER_04 (27:29):
It was 180 borne in six episodes, Algeria.
So it's the coin, it's a niceregion where it is.
SPEAKER_03 (28:23):
In February it was a dough per person.
But frankly, it's the way youwant to go to the event where
you go to 20 barns, 40 barns,and you can double with a
douche, you know.
SPEAKER_04 (28:41):
You put a louche, you move, you can, you put the
two louches that rest and I'msurprised that you have to do a
douche two days on the top, twodays or something like that.
SPEAKER_02 (28:58):
But in fact, when you're in the uncomfort in the
fruit and the uncomfort in theshow, that also.
This we have a very douche.
SPEAKER_03 (29:17):
About poils at box, there was a little bit of
confort in November andFebruary.
SPEAKER_04 (29:26):
And the first is Transara Marathon.
SPEAKER_03 (29:30):
And this is the Grand Trail of the Valley Draft.
I think it was the eighthorganization, they were
commenced, they were 15-20 atthe first edition, 30-40, 50-40.
And this was the record, therewas 200 people.
(30:00):
The matter and the week for 200people.
It's kind of a sacredorganization.
And frankly, it was super.
SPEAKER_02 (30:11):
It was incredible.
It's really incredible theorganization.
SPEAKER_04 (30:14):
And the concept is all in solo or it's possible to
go to two, or why you decided togo.
SPEAKER_03 (30:22):
You can find minimum three people.
So the class is individual, andso tu as a class parap if you
declared a class by equipping,if you declared by equipping.
(30:47):
And we had sufficient coursesthis day for that.
And the class is the chronosindividual on each episode.
Okay.
(31:18):
And a chamo on the ball.
Exactly.
He has two with his chamber.
SPEAKER_02 (31:29):
It's magnificent.
SPEAKER_03 (31:33):
About a democratic for the journey and the data.
SPEAKER_02 (31:39):
And CP.
You have in general CP for the 5or 10 kilometers per month.
And this one a bit of ravita,and Transara Marathon we have
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absolutely ravitailement.
SPEAKER_03 (32:05):
We have 4-4 and 5 litres of a great bonbone to
ravita, and so.
SPEAKER_04 (32:12):
And then we have curiosity.
SPEAKER_03 (32:14):
And they have done it.
That's after we went all thetime, but there was the great.
If you are at 6 hours and 7hours of mat, you're a middle,
(32:38):
but you froze the mid-15 hours.
SPEAKER_02 (32:41):
I think you've got the first journey and the two.
SPEAKER_03 (32:45):
No, no, there's show.
Yeah it was reparted prime.
Two days 20 kilometers.
It's 60.
(33:06):
And so you finish 15 rapidcourse.
SPEAKER_04 (33:13):
It's the strategy, in the point of view effort,
pace, etc.
I'm Esther, at some rhythm.
SPEAKER_03 (33:38):
We keep the experience, we have the moment,
the desert.
We have to do it also.
SPEAKER_04 (33:52):
And Esther, you're used to keeping the course after
the concept?
SPEAKER_02 (33:57):
It's a very good question.
SPEAKER_04 (33:59):
It's evident when you're in your work to say, I
capture that.
It's a tough.
SPEAKER_02 (34:47):
I see it on too much.
And then what's difficult in theway, is when you create your
contention and you function likeme.
After I don't know how functionthe other, and so I'm with me.
(35:45):
After I think that she's quite aperformance in my priority, I'm
not even in the remarque ofperformance, of time, of class.
(36:18):
Franchement, tranquille thismatter, he means, he said, we're
marching, because it's tranquilfor me.
And he comprends, dun couple ofBall and I arrive at Ball, so in
fact he adapted.
(36:38):
But in the creation ofcontention, it's like that pose
pasta problem to film all,postant stories in direct.
There are contention for themarks, so evidently it's
(37:01):
reflective.
And then I have the contentionfor us, this is spontaneous.
If you don't know the time, it'snot the same.
It's that's cool, I think, is topartake in direct.
So that's good and she's in themall, and it sort of in my
course, and it permitted toprovide a sense different to
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that.
And a few we coop completely.
SPEAKER_04 (37:48):
We had plenty of things different, the ascension
of the Saint Victoria, etc.
And I don't know if you were atyour count or the creation of
it.
But I was very attacking.
I think that was you had atrying to put a photo, get a
story, and it was non-stop justat tard the week, I was enjoying
editing.
And I tried it as well.
(38:11):
I think that I'm capable ofdoing that, you know.
If you're in my course, itshouldn't be to sort of my
telephone to envoy a message,you know.
So I say to imagine how I cancapture an instant, etc.
That's complicated.
For me in the case.
SPEAKER_02 (38:25):
I'm sorry, in fact, we are two completely different.
SPEAKER_04 (39:22):
Franchement, it's very sympathy, contenu mega
quali.
And it's enough when you see theréels épingless on Cassie,
Marseille and Navett withRomain.
Okay, so we decided to get thecourse ensemble.
(39:42):
28, 28, 30, 75, is that?
Wow.
Come on, it is what we explainedis a pet, dinner, the middle is
we're a bit like a bigger one.
SPEAKER_03 (39:58):
It's creation of competition, but for the others,
it's repos.
SPEAKER_04 (40:04):
So the camp is organized?
It's like what we've got atMarathon destables, marabouts.
SPEAKER_03 (40:09):
It's a little the same style, it's a little bit
more comfortable.
We have the contraint from theMarathon destable to go with all
the affairs.
We have the contract to go with,it's not an autonomy.
We have a great value that theorganization appears to be
walking to bivalk, and you haveaccess to the efforts at the
morning, an hour after the day,and you recuperate all the
efforts at the river.
(40:30):
So that's kind of cool becauseit offer it's quite more
comfortable than the courseattack on February with this
model that we render of theexigence extreme that represents
the marathon of the sable.
(40:50):
There's a sack that pay into sixand two kilos maximum, there's
100% of those efforts for 100%of your affairs of no matter for
changing seven years, if youdon't have batteries.
You have 250 kilometers, you do,or a pet.
SPEAKER_02 (41:07):
The tents are in the back of the room.
SPEAKER_03 (41:10):
The tent, so almost the effort physical that it
demands, I think all thesecontracts at all.
(41:37):
No, but you partage that withtwo other people.
And in this type of course, youhave all the group that makes
year, which you know.
(41:59):
So there are the two who arevery in couple of years, and
there are the marchers thatarrive at the end of the day.
And you see an episode, you knowrapidly where it is, you put a
question to people, child hastheir anecdotes.
(42:20):
There's really an expert groupthat is very funny and which
constructs at the moment and thedays and events, and of the
fatigue.
(43:02):
Humanly.
(43:28):
Paella, risotto, pool, carbo,poulet curry, right.
It's a classic.
SPEAKER_04 (43:53):
You have reviewed to referee the course attack, to go
too long on this type ofepisode?
SPEAKER_03 (44:01):
They've got very February on the Transara
Marathon that was associatedwith Mohammed is associated with
Red Light, it's the Red LightDesert Trophy this day.
And we returned.
And we will organizate a courseattack with Mohammed in Atlas
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Marocan of May.
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We are on Maros the semaine fordiscuter with us.
But we're at the other side thisweek.
SPEAKER_04 (44:58):
Wow.
Organization of course.
It's enormous.
SPEAKER_03 (45:02):
You have the name?
It's not fair the year, I thinkhe was eight years consecutive,
so it's the Transatlas Marathon.
Transatlas Marathon.
We got that.
But the principle is the same,it's 160 kilometers in eight
years.
We are in Atlas, we are in themountains, so it's really trail,
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which is for the case.
In the desert, the course at theend, it's a trail, but there's
no denial.
There are 8000 meters of denialpositive for the 160 bonds.
And there are different formats.
There are a format rando, aformat half where it was 80 km
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for 40, a format 160 for 40, andthere's a 100 borne non-stop.
It's also Atlas completely fine.
SPEAKER_04 (46:02):
Because you've got a rando or trail in Maroc.
I've had 4 trophy in Maroc.
It's not so much the same thing.
It's plenty arid, I think,Atlas?
So a 160 passes for the Ravito,etc.
SPEAKER_03 (46:20):
It's right.
In fact, the Ravito, it's notthe Ravito, the Ravito, it's a 4
with a little bit.
About 4 bananas and 4 mandarins,3 dates.
It's a Ravito, but they're verycontent to turn on a great plain
when you're in the Ravito.
SPEAKER_02 (46:40):
The principles is in general it says that you're not
too ravitating.
It's really light, it's aravitament on earth.
And if you leave a data, they'resuper content.
SPEAKER_03 (46:54):
I mean there's a lot to do.
But the concept is a walk inwhich you are, which is the
morning at the end of thecourse, and is the same day on
the day of the course.
And there's all an organizationof Marocans along that douche,
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toilets, the tent communication,get all the cuisine.
It's incredible to work.
You can change.
It's very fine.
SPEAKER_02 (47:33):
And on the Valley du Drain there is also super nice.
SPEAKER_03 (47:49):
And check the 200 people, and chaque day 200
people who change.
We have a very good.
The legumes with the good, it'sperfectly.
The water, the fruits, it wasvery tough.
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And it's completely equilibriumfor absolutely all for the
effort that you had the day.
SPEAKER_04 (48:20):
The diets are coming.
SPEAKER_02 (48:42):
No, no, alright for the couple.
No, no, sur course I'm alimente.
SPEAKER_03 (48:49):
That's right, it's a lot of effort.
C'était la reine des hippos.
SPEAKER_04 (49:00):
T'as fait comme moi, tu as finis par compris that if
you alimentate, you're not.
I've been a 9 year old hour andI'm fatigued.
Mega interesting if we pass theother way to the ride and we
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organise a course.
He said, I've had a courseattack.
What we would say that thepeople experiment who connect a
type of course, and what it wasa bit different or apportered a
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little bit unique.
SPEAKER_02 (49:42):
And for the people inversely who's a little bit of
a little bit of a thing that Isidere at that time, is that you
engage on an effort that will beyear after year, it's not like
when you listen to one course.
(50:03):
And in fact, when you listen inthe first episode, it's just
difficult.
And when you project mentally,it's completely impossible.
So in fact, you're in time to dosomething and you think that the
fight is impossible.
And in fact, in having theinstant, in the attack, one by
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one, you know, arrived at thebooth.
And the lending you are 5 hoursof the day, it is no longer, you
do preparing your efforts, youdo dress for being pretty and
reparti.
And then you say it's notpossible, I don't know 60
bornes, so I have 100 in thepattes.
(50:47):
And you have no shape, you neverhave a camp, you can go in a
4x4, you will not rent.
No, in fact, you see the moodand you go and you go to the
line of arrival, and then on theline of the room, you demand
what you want, and you're and itturns, you go, and the time you
find the line of the room andyou have the 60 bornes.
And in fact, this year it's thefinal and passed and 180 bornes.
(51:13):
And I think that it's the casefor a lot of people.
And I think that remainsconfiance in one.
I think it makes enough in placefor a lot of people, in the case
for me.
(51:35):
At what point the projectionmentality is negative, and in
fact, if you feel the shorts inthe instant, you think, you
know, and you arrive at all.
And that's really what you'rewhat you could just accomplish
in a course attack, send of allthe partage and human.
SPEAKER_03 (51:58):
And I think that the way to have a success of events
year after year, it makes thepressure on a lot of people,
also who have been, in fact,because you comment by 28, 28
kilometers, it's very enormous,we're at 20, 20, there are
preparing six months to get a60.
That is just the quick episodeof a course where you have
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several the four yearsprecedent, so it's enormous.
But you're completely prison,and you move in a group in
nature to make these effortsphysics, and you come from
cooperation of your quotient, ofyour life of all the years, it's
(52:45):
really incredible because youknow what it is, you know what
year it is, they're really innature in this group, to focus
on the course the matter, therecuperation, the bad ambiance,
the change with the people.
SPEAKER_02 (53:20):
We have a priority, we have a judgment, there are
plenty of critics.
And in fact, it's like too, andyou discutt with them and pass a
moment with people with whichyou're not with town to partake
these moments.
When we arrive in the tent andyou do your place to change,
(53:42):
you're low at the place, but youreturn with eight people, there
are people who have 20 years,who have 75 people, there are
people who are in the world, andyou partage a moment completely
inattendu.
And the same thing, it's thesimplicity.
(54:12):
You have mal, you have anampoul, you have a double
muscular, etc.
And in fact, at the moment youhave two shots to return.
And even when you get oneattack, when you get one course,
you turn to you, you turn toyou, you have your comfort, and
then you eat your double, youcan eat your equity, you can eat
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the doors on the articulation.
And in fact, in a course at atime, you have the short.
Come on, you can sit at the tentor the quad-catter.
So you return.
And in fact, when you return,you can say that the moment you
come, but it's a bad.
And after you believe, and thenthese amounts that are terrible
and there's no, in fact, itworks.
(54:58):
And at the moment where youdetach your attention to the
double, but in fact that itworks, the born advance, and you
can go to you, and the timethere is doing it, etc.
And the report to the double issuper interesting also in this
context.
SPEAKER_03 (55:19):
That's the format, it's like the format that you
pass six years at suffering.
Evidently muscularly charge, butthere's a double.
SPEAKER_04 (55:46):
No, I think the fact of the way to the fact that we
have a great time, a great timeof record into each other.
Is there a reverse of the mediawhere just you let the time to
redescend, to refresh, thedoors, install, muscular or
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other.
And the way to report, is it'snot difficult to enchant 140
bornes on the TDS, where they'reall in your rhythm, entre
guillemets?
SPEAKER_03 (56:23):
In fact, the matter, when you live at 5 hours of
match, it's the quatrime year,there's some borne in the
jambes, you are for 60, it'scomplicated already, you know.
And if you turn on the chanceyou have to pass one journey in
the desert, you just change theangle and you say a chance to
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do.
And in fact, you are decent, andyour heart shiffs at the end,
and you keep it.
SPEAKER_02 (57:01):
And just on this comfort, entre guillemets, it is
relative.
And you know, the more the moremoment just on your chaise, but
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you appreciate it.
SPEAKER_04 (57:42):
For passing a little bit concrete, you can have an
idea of the tariffs?
When we are on the 160, theformat, I imagine the course.
SPEAKER_03 (57:51):
It's always eight years, a department the same.
If you don't have batteries,it's the 22 May and 21 May.
(58:23):
Plus assistance, etc.
What you see, BS, what you pay,I think it's very rentable.
In the experience that we haveon the episode, it's very fine.
SPEAKER_04 (58:46):
If there are people who are the podcast will be
informed of the suit,potentially remarkable
inscriptions, etc.
SPEAKER_03 (58:54):
We will see that the month of December.
The first of the things is we'recommunicating on our Insta ultra
distance.
And we have an Instagram and aFacebook Transatlas Marathon.
So we'll repeat the and we willcommunicate very well and to
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lancere the inscriptions ideallyafter the fin of the day.
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (59:22):
After we are completely disponible on the
comp insta, so for all questionsor what it's like.
Evidently, excellent.
SPEAKER_04 (59:38):
It's a pleasure to have your news.
Hello hello, we're going to frapped the podcast of
the boss.
(00:43):
Attention, Roma Esther,bienvenue on the podcast.
(01:10):
I think it's the first episodethat I've been in presential.
So what that will do audio.
But I'm very content to have anew micro podcast, the frapper,
to talk a little bit of trail,ultra, a format a bit different
this time, because we've got anexperience.
(01:31):
It was not the first time thatwe had a course attached, right?
So very show for us to see.
(02:05):
The link are in the descriptionof the episode, so if you want,
and now that's it, the firstquestion is the course?
What's happening during theDIAG?
Is there a great changement,great project that we have to
partake?
SPEAKER_03 (02:28):
I think we have a lot of kilometers at the end
these two days.
I quit my life of restaurateurfor coach sportified.
Esther is professionalism in thecreation of contention, visual,
graphism, photos, videos.
(02:58):
And we went to the course attackin Maroc in one seminar.
SPEAKER_04 (03:05):
Coach sportive, you can see what?
Try to be.
SPEAKER_03 (04:47):
And this course at the end.
And then we are two in pauseinvernal of two semas.
Franchement I think it's good tosee that.
But it's finished this day.
(05:16):
We're at Shenzhen for a marqueeand it's kind of super too much
of this environment that weknow.
I think it's atypic.
I think he lives a little bit inthe future also, so we'll
decouri all that.
unknown (05:38):
Top.
SPEAKER_04 (05:45):
After this GR20 on off in the great light, and we
didn't try, but I think it'sRomain who had the project
initially or in mode trail, andEsther had already fair also.
SPEAKER_03 (06:00):
We're going to go.
In general, it's myorganization.
It's my dad that the format GR20on mode trail was six years, and
we were saying that it was aformat super ambitious.
In the memoir.
(06:21):
Esther the quatrime year.
But now franchise, it's nothappening, and it's really an
experience of life incredible.
SPEAKER_04 (06:31):
It would be an episode.
It's not a show, but we find anepisode.
Because it's interesting.
It was in 2019, in six years.
(06:52):
They were in mode rando, becausethe trail existed.
It was really rando rapid.
And we were a little disaveny.
And I told you that when we wereexchanged, it was the verse.
The people who fought really for15 years, it's a little bit that
surprised.
SPEAKER_03 (07:10):
We went to other groups who lived in six, we saw
others who were in eight, don'tknow, and after a day, and they
want to profit also.
(07:39):
No, no, we have.
It's really important to planifythe things for correctly, to
respect the time of recuperationalso, to evitate the blessings.
SPEAKER_04 (08:45):
And the CCC, for appeal, you said if I tromp it,
it's 101 kilometers, is that?
23 hours, okay.
Well, but it's solid.
SPEAKER_02 (09:11):
It's really the way in which I finished my course, I
think.
To constatate that the 30derivatives, I said I could
continue.
And in kilometer 90, I captainthat it's like I was at
kilometer 20.
(09:37):
And it was 22 hours that it is,and I thought that I rejoiced
nothing to terminate the earlykilometers because I was a big.
No, no, no, it was Romain forthat because he had to find the
volume intelligent, and shehabituated my work.
SPEAKER_03 (10:15):
That's 2023.
SPEAKER_04 (10:20):
It was after the diagnosis.
I remember you said that you hada passive with blessing.
The distance was complicated.
It was oof to see that two yearsafter you finish the CCC.
SPEAKER_02 (10:34):
I thought she was reparted at zero, I made my
counter zero, I recommencedprogressively, I've had enough,
I alimented correctly, I've seena progressivity, and it was also
the intensity absurd.
(11:02):
Franklin has really changed myentrainment I had intensity and
I had a lot of volume with bitof intensity, per moment, but I
think that it's what I alsomean.
Because I think in entraining Ishocked enormously my
(11:22):
articulations, my heart.
And as I adored the technique, Ithink that it was and I had
really the muscles adequate,alright.
And boot to boot two days later.
SPEAKER_03 (11:36):
But progressivity, alimentation, somewhere, and we
repeat the time, but it'llsimply make place.
And planification, in fact.
SPEAKER_04 (11:48):
And period of record.
And the big coach.
But you have a navigation.
SPEAKER_01 (11:56):
I don't have any.
It's not right.
But the coach!
SPEAKER_03 (12:03):
When you're a five year old, you've got a nav, you
have 14 million plus, I'veépargna that.
SPEAKER_02 (12:11):
No, no, I'm gonna accompany psychologically when
he has 15 or 20.
SPEAKER_03 (12:21):
Terrible.
SPEAKER_04 (12:31):
But in the way, it's kind of an exercise, it's genius
because psychologically it'sinteresting.
It was not so monstrous as whatyou did, but I've seen I don't
know if you've got plus of 12 or14.
(12:55):
But when you arrive at the sixmonths and you say I've not been
five, psychological it'sinteresting.
And then for the cardio, I thinkit's hyper pure.
SPEAKER_03 (13:09):
So you can typically make the puissance on the eye,
the eccentric on descent, it'swhat you reproduce in course
also.
So it's important.
And after passing two, three,four, six, six, six hours in the
same boss, psychological,mentally, it's not resilient.
SPEAKER_04 (13:29):
It's clear.
I read one of the series that Iwas at the Saint Victor, it was
the cart of the day, so I was aporc.
And with the transport in theeyes, I had the eyes a little
bit fragile, so the eyes peak,etc.
And the night comes to tomb, shewas at the 12th or a thing.
(13:51):
And too much at the SaintVictor, it's really an effort
lamentable.
And then there's a fan who wasalso who arrived and at an end
where there was no person.
And I think it attended likeperson on this section.
And then I arrived from a bœufand the eyes, and I've been in
the regard that I was like,what's it?
(14:15):
But excellent.
Excellent, excellent.
The GR20, if you have bothmemoirs, the tour of Beaufortin'
off, it was not reallypreviously.
SPEAKER_03 (14:28):
We have two semi.
It's quite physically.
SPEAKER_02 (14:45):
Physically, yeah, but I think mentally I tried to
realize what happens at GR20, isthat you can find 24, 25, 26, in
fact.
So you have two bornes in onehour, then in fact.
And you know it has a rapport onkilometers that is completely
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different.
And Romain announced that forthe Beaufortin, he had provided
a journey a bit quick.
It was not very long as Gervain.
It was a journey, it was cool.
And I was told in crazy that Ithink we were quite like 7
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hours, 18, 19 hours.
And in fact, I was, Ivan, and Iwent to one day to get more than
40 borns.
Wait, it's that, no?
I'm trying to.
(15:53):
And I said, I guess I don't knowthe CCC.
Because in fact, why do you havethree years for 120 bornes?
And so on the CCC.
(16:14):
And you know, I think that itwas completely demoralized to me
what I mean.
And in fact, the Beaufortin,I've got to one, two, three, and
in fact, it's not.
(16:40):
And at the moment, I've askedfor the CCC.
Because in fact she had totallymentally like Romain me told me
session Dis-toi that to whatyou're enjoying to vivid, those
days by the which you'reenjoying, it's mental or
physical, but you can return tothe CCC and you know that you
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can survive.
And it's exactly that.
SPEAKER_03 (17:11):
Entry difficulty, facile.
SPEAKER_02 (17:13):
And at the CCC she was mad at the 40th, and in the
final No and the final you weresuper after the 40th.
But no, it was just in theeuphoria, I think, of Ghervin
that we are reparted on theBeaufortin.
SPEAKER_04 (17:31):
I'm sure because we were changing after the Gervin,
after we were on the city.
SPEAKER_03 (17:43):
It's the second year of Girvin.
The lending two weeks.
SPEAKER_02 (17:48):
The lending at the Garvin on the taxi, I said, He
said, I prefer the prochainitiness.
SPEAKER_03 (18:04):
And the TDS you have Romain?
Frankly, I've adored.
Yeah, but yeah, but I thinkalready if you perform it to
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preoccupied and class.
And if you form physically, it'slike that you perform.
And you have all this stress ofyou doubling, you're not at my
time to pass.
The objective was really to kiffthat ultra and to get a course
abouti.
And I adored from the day afterthe time.
(18:49):
I've had a period verydifficult.
The environment of the TDS isgrandiose, it's a montagne, it's
fabulous.
I got my course.
SPEAKER_04 (19:06):
TDS for appearance of Duke of Savoy is 145
kilometers and 900.
SPEAKER_03 (19:14):
It's a little bit more long.
We have 153, I think.
And 900 and course technique,you know, or what?
Alright, it's more technicalthan the UTMB, for example,
which I've been doing, but thetechnicality not for great
positive and negative.
(19:36):
It's not technical like IDAG orlike certain sentimentaires.
But we put great pants positiveand negative.
There are big parts at the endof the course, there are little
portions where there arecailloux where they are a bit
(19:56):
accidental, but it's not supertechnical.
It's not facility, but it's notsuper technical.
SPEAKER_04 (20:05):
It was the first course for you when you had the
changing mindset, and no, butfor ultra, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (20:28):
It's completely the optic in which I work for all my
courses already, in fact.
SPEAKER_02 (20:32):
And you know what or no, but it's super interesting
because he had the GR20 at myrhythm, he burns at my rhythm.
So he burned at low intensity,like for the Beaufortin.
And in fact, I think very wellthat he had said, but he lived
at burn and he arrived at theboat of all that sort of
(20:54):
fatigue, sort of, he had said itwould be almost the first part
of the course a little bit likeI started with Esther.
And to the same conditions forthe moment.
SPEAKER_03 (21:09):
The concept inversing, in fact.
I really didn't say I had theGRM in six years old, I would
have been with the same alarmwith Esther.
And I think that it was abattery, and I think that you
would potentially be blessed.
(21:30):
And then on these, I realizedthe capacity that my corner had
to get a volume enormous sort ofsensation of the room.
And after I had a concept of mycoach who made if you have top
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100 on the TDS on the firstkilometer 50, it's 300.
Okay.
It's kind of hallucinant fromconcept.
Imagine to accept 300 at acourse, the first course if you
arrive at the one.
So I've been in 150 or 180, Idon't know exactly what.
SPEAKER_04 (22:31):
That's interesting like instruction.
SPEAKER_03 (22:33):
And you see, and accept to doubly by 300, 400
mechanics the first year, it'snot evident, but in fact you
want that after the course, butyou have the explosive, and you
can see the mind.
And the eight early kilometersthat work, you represent 15
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mechanics, imagine?
SPEAKER_04 (23:01):
In plain night at 4 hours of the hour so that the
art of the bonus gestion onultra history with the courses
attack, how we have to coverthat?
Because it's kind of verydifferent from effort, concept
of a TDS, CCC, of the DIAG, youknow what you think, but I don't
(23:23):
have to say two sports, twoapproaches that have really.
SPEAKER_02 (23:44):
The first time we had an idea, what we can see.
SPEAKER_03 (23:53):
It was in February in Morocco in the desert.
For what course?
The Trans Sahara Marathon.
Okay.
He has got seven, he finally 10years second after his friend.
(24:16):
And he organized two courses,the Transahara Marathon and the
Transatlas Marathon.
And we were invited in Februaryfor creating the course.
And when we proposed, we hadhesitated at all or photos,
videos, it had not been superlovely.
(24:36):
And we are arrived at the backside of attempts, and we had a
clack of incredible in terms ofpays, in terms of efforts,
succession of efforts year afteryears, the fact that evolution
with a group on plain nature,there are plenty of things that
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run in these courses, which youremove an ultra one day, of a
few years, but that's reallyexceptional for these.
SPEAKER_02 (26:35):
After a chemist, a little the soil is a little bit
volcanic.
And then for it could be akilometers and kilometers where
it's plenty, so that demands aneffort mental incredible, for
the chaleur.
SPEAKER_03 (26:57):
In February, it was a little bit of a little bit of
a little bit of 20 with 25, youknow.
SPEAKER_02 (27:04):
And in February it was very sharp the morning and
super fresh night.
SPEAKER_03 (27:13):
And then in November it was snow the morning, and the
night it was blue.
SPEAKER_04 (27:29):
It was 180 borne in six episodes, Algeria.
So it's the coin, it's a niceregion where it is.
SPEAKER_03 (28:23):
In February it was a dough per person.
But frankly, it's the way youwant to go to the event where
you go to 20 barns, 40 barns,and you can double with a
douche, you know.
SPEAKER_04 (28:41):
You put a louche, you move, you can, you put the
two louches that rest and I'msurprised that you have to do a
douche two days on the top, twodays or something like that.
SPEAKER_02 (28:58):
But in fact, when you're in the uncomfort in the
fruit and the uncomfort in theshow, that also.
This we have a very douche.
SPEAKER_03 (29:17):
About poils at box, there was a little bit of
confort in November andFebruary.
SPEAKER_04 (29:26):
And the first is Transara Marathon.
SPEAKER_03 (29:30):
And this is the Grand Trail of the Valley Draft.
I think it was the eighthorganization, they were
commenced, they were 15-20 atthe first edition, 30-40, 50-40.
And this was the record, therewas 200 people.
(30:00):
The matter and the week for 200people.
It's kind of a sacredorganization.
And frankly, it was super.
SPEAKER_02 (30:11):
It was incredible.
It's really incredible theorganization.
SPEAKER_04 (30:14):
And the concept is all in solo or it's possible to
go to two, or why you decided togo.
SPEAKER_03 (30:22):
You can find minimum three people.
So the class is individual, andso tu as a class parap if you
declared a class by equipping,if you declared by equipping.
(30:47):
And we had sufficient coursesthis day for that.
And the class is the chronosindividual on each episode.
Okay.
(31:18):
And a chamo on the ball.
Exactly.
He has two with his chamber.
SPEAKER_02 (31:29):
It's magnificent.
SPEAKER_03 (31:33):
About a democratic for the journey and the data.
SPEAKER_02 (31:39):
And CP.
You have in general CP for the 5or 10 kilometers per month.
And this one a bit of ravita,and Transara Marathon we have
(32:04):
absolutely ravitailement.
SPEAKER_03 (32:05):
We have 4-4 and 5 litres of a great bonbone to
ravita, and so.
SPEAKER_04 (32:12):
And then we have curiosity.
SPEAKER_03 (32:14):
And they have done it.
That's after we went all thetime, but there was the great.
If you are at 6 hours and 7hours of mat, you're a middle,
(32:38):
but you froze the mid-15 hours.
SPEAKER_02 (32:41):
I think you've got the first journey and the two.
SPEAKER_03 (32:45):
No, no, there's show.
Yeah it was reparted prime.
Two days 20 kilometers.
It's 60.
(33:06):
And so you finish 15 rapidcourse.
SPEAKER_04 (33:13):
It's the strategy, in the point of view effort,
pace, etc.
I'm Esther, at some rhythm.
SPEAKER_03 (33:38):
We keep the experience, we have the moment,
the desert.
We have to do it also.
SPEAKER_04 (33:52):
And Esther, you're used to keeping the course after
the concept?
SPEAKER_02 (33:57):
It's a very good question.
SPEAKER_04 (33:59):
It's evident when you're in your work to say, I
capture that.
It's a tough.
SPEAKER_02 (34:47):
I see it on too much.
And then what's difficult in theway, is when you create your
contention and you function likeme.
After I don't know how functionthe other, and so I'm with me.
(35:45):
After I think that she's quite aperformance in my priority, I'm
not even in the remarque ofperformance, of time, of class.
(36:18):
Franchement, tranquille thismatter, he means, he said, we're
marching, because it's tranquilfor me.
And he comprends, dun couple ofBall and I arrive at Ball, so in
fact he adapted.
(36:38):
But in the creation ofcontention, it's like that pose
pasta problem to film all,postant stories in direct.
There are contention for themarks, so evidently it's
(37:01):
reflective.
And then I have the contentionfor us, this is spontaneous.
If you don't know the time, it'snot the same.
It's that's cool, I think, is topartake in direct.
So that's good and she's in themall, and it sort of in my
course, and it permitted toprovide a sense different to
(37:22):
that.
And a few we coop completely.
SPEAKER_04 (37:48):
We had plenty of things different, the ascension
of the Saint Victoria, etc.
And I don't know if you were atyour count or the creation of
it.
But I was very attacking.
I think that was you had atrying to put a photo, get a
story, and it was non-stop justat tard the week, I was enjoying
editing.
And I tried it as well.
(38:11):
I think that I'm capable ofdoing that, you know.
If you're in my course, itshouldn't be to sort of my
telephone to envoy a message,you know.
So I say to imagine how I cancapture an instant, etc.
That's complicated.
For me in the case.
SPEAKER_02 (38:25):
I'm sorry, in fact, we are two completely different.
SPEAKER_04 (39:22):
Franchement, it's very sympathy, contenu mega
quali.
And it's enough when you see theréels épingless on Cassie,
Marseille and Navett withRomain.
Okay, so we decided to get thecourse ensemble.
(39:42):
28, 28, 30, 75, is that?
Wow.
Come on, it is what we explainedis a pet, dinner, the middle is
we're a bit like a bigger one.
SPEAKER_03 (39:58):
It's creation of competition, but for the others,
it's repos.
SPEAKER_04 (40:04):
So the camp is organized?
It's like what we've got atMarathon destables, marabouts.
SPEAKER_03 (40:09):
It's a little the same style, it's a little bit
more comfortable.
We have the contraint from theMarathon destable to go with all
the affairs.
We have the contract to go with,it's not an autonomy.
We have a great value that theorganization appears to be
walking to bivalk, and you haveaccess to the efforts at the
morning, an hour after the day,and you recuperate all the
efforts at the river.
(40:30):
So that's kind of cool becauseit offer it's quite more
comfortable than the courseattack on February with this
model that we render of theexigence extreme that represents
the marathon of the sable.
(40:50):
There's a sack that pay into sixand two kilos maximum, there's
100% of those efforts for 100%of your affairs of no matter for
changing seven years, if youdon't have batteries.
You have 250 kilometers, you do,or a pet.
SPEAKER_02 (41:07):
The tents are in the back of the room.
SPEAKER_03 (41:10):
The tent, so almost the effort physical that it
demands, I think all thesecontracts at all.
(41:37):
No, but you partage that withtwo other people.
And in this type of course, youhave all the group that makes
year, which you know.
(41:59):
So there are the two who arevery in couple of years, and
there are the marchers thatarrive at the end of the day.
And you see an episode, you knowrapidly where it is, you put a
question to people, child hastheir anecdotes.
(42:20):
There's really an expert groupthat is very funny and which
constructs at the moment and thedays and events, and of the
fatigue.
(43:02):
Humanly.
(43:28):
Paella, risotto, pool, carbo,poulet curry, right.
It's a classic.
SPEAKER_04 (43:53):
You have reviewed to referee the course attack, to go
too long on this type ofepisode?
SPEAKER_03 (44:01):
They've got very February on the Transara
Marathon that was associatedwith Mohammed is associated with
Red Light, it's the Red LightDesert Trophy this day.
And we returned.
And we will organizate a courseattack with Mohammed in Atlas
(44:28):
Marocan of May.
(44:50):
We are on Maros the semaine fordiscuter with us.
But we're at the other side thisweek.
SPEAKER_04 (44:58):
Wow.
Organization of course.
It's enormous.
SPEAKER_03 (45:02):
You have the name?
It's not fair the year, I thinkhe was eight years consecutive,
so it's the Transatlas Marathon.
Transatlas Marathon.
We got that.
But the principle is the same,it's 160 kilometers in eight
years.
We are in Atlas, we are in themountains, so it's really trail,
(45:25):
which is for the case.
In the desert, the course at theend, it's a trail, but there's
no denial.
There are 8000 meters of denialpositive for the 160 bonds.
And there are different formats.
There are a format rando, aformat half where it was 80 km
(45:45):
for 40, a format 160 for 40, andthere's a 100 borne non-stop.
It's also Atlas completely fine.
SPEAKER_04 (46:02):
Because you've got a rando or trail in Maroc.
I've had 4 trophy in Maroc.
It's not so much the same thing.
It's plenty arid, I think,Atlas?
So a 160 passes for the Ravito,etc.
SPEAKER_03 (46:20):
It's right.
In fact, the Ravito, it's notthe Ravito, the Ravito, it's a 4
with a little bit.
About 4 bananas and 4 mandarins,3 dates.
It's a Ravito, but they're verycontent to turn on a great plain
when you're in the Ravito.
SPEAKER_02 (46:40):
The principles is in general it says that you're not
too ravitating.
It's really light, it's aravitament on earth.
And if you leave a data, they'resuper content.
SPEAKER_03 (46:54):
I mean there's a lot to do.
But the concept is a walk inwhich you are, which is the
morning at the end of thecourse, and is the same day on
the day of the course.
And there's all an organizationof Marocans along that douche,
(47:17):
toilets, the tent communication,get all the cuisine.
It's incredible to work.
You can change.
It's very fine.
SPEAKER_02 (47:33):
And on the Valley du Drain there is also super nice.
SPEAKER_03 (47:49):
And check the 200 people, and chaque day 200
people who change.
We have a very good.
The legumes with the good, it'sperfectly.
The water, the fruits, it wasvery tough.
(48:11):
And it's completely equilibriumfor absolutely all for the
effort that you had the day.
SPEAKER_04 (48:20):
The diets are coming.
SPEAKER_02 (48:42):
No, no, alright for the couple.
No, no, sur course I'm alimente.
SPEAKER_03 (48:49):
That's right, it's a lot of effort.
C'était la reine des hippos.
SPEAKER_04 (49:00):
T'as fait comme moi, tu as finis par compris that if
you alimentate, you're not.
I've been a 9 year old hour andI'm fatigued.
Mega interesting if we pass theother way to the ride and we
(49:21):
organise a course.
He said, I've had a courseattack.
What we would say that thepeople experiment who connect a
type of course, and what it wasa bit different or apportered a
(49:42):
little bit unique.
SPEAKER_02 (49:42):
And for the people inversely who's a little bit of
a little bit of a thing that Isidere at that time, is that you
engage on an effort that will beyear after year, it's not like
when you listen to one course.
(50:03):
And in fact, when you listen inthe first episode, it's just
difficult.
And when you project mentally,it's completely impossible.
So in fact, you're in time to dosomething and you think that the
fight is impossible.
And in fact, in having theinstant, in the attack, one by
(50:26):
one, you know, arrived at thebooth.
And the lending you are 5 hoursof the day, it is no longer, you
do preparing your efforts, youdo dress for being pretty and
reparti.
And then you say it's notpossible, I don't know 60
bornes, so I have 100 in thepattes.
(50:47):
And you have no shape, you neverhave a camp, you can go in a
4x4, you will not rent.
No, in fact, you see the moodand you go and you go to the
line of arrival, and then on theline of the room, you demand
what you want, and you're and itturns, you go, and the time you
find the line of the room andyou have the 60 bornes.
And in fact, this year it's thefinal and passed and 180 bornes.
(51:13):
And I think that it's the casefor a lot of people.
And I think that remainsconfiance in one.
I think it makes enough in placefor a lot of people, in the case
for me.
(51:35):
At what point the projectionmentality is negative, and in
fact, if you feel the shorts inthe instant, you think, you
know, and you arrive at all.
And that's really what you'rewhat you could just accomplish
in a course attack, send of allthe partage and human.
SPEAKER_03 (51:58):
And I think that the way to have a success of events
year after year, it makes thepressure on a lot of people,
also who have been, in fact,because you comment by 28, 28
kilometers, it's very enormous,we're at 20, 20, there are
preparing six months to get a60.
That is just the quick episodeof a course where you have
(52:22):
several the four yearsprecedent, so it's enormous.
But you're completely prison,and you move in a group in
nature to make these effortsphysics, and you come from
cooperation of your quotient, ofyour life of all the years, it's
(52:45):
really incredible because youknow what it is, you know what
year it is, they're really innature in this group, to focus
on the course the matter, therecuperation, the bad ambiance,
the change with the people.
SPEAKER_02 (53:20):
We have a priority, we have a judgment, there are
plenty of critics.
And in fact, it's like too, andyou discutt with them and pass a
moment with people with whichyou're not with town to partake
these moments.
When we arrive in the tent andyou do your place to change,
(53:42):
you're low at the place, but youreturn with eight people, there
are people who have 20 years,who have 75 people, there are
people who are in the world, andyou partage a moment completely
inattendu.
And the same thing, it's thesimplicity.
(54:12):
You have mal, you have anampoul, you have a double
muscular, etc.
And in fact, at the moment youhave two shots to return.
And even when you get oneattack, when you get one course,
you turn to you, you turn toyou, you have your comfort, and
then you eat your double, youcan eat your equity, you can eat
(54:36):
the doors on the articulation.
And in fact, in a course at atime, you have the short.
Come on, you can sit at the tentor the quad-catter.
So you return.
And in fact, when you return,you can say that the moment you
come, but it's a bad.
And after you believe, and thenthese amounts that are terrible
and there's no, in fact, itworks.
(54:58):
And at the moment where youdetach your attention to the
double, but in fact that itworks, the born advance, and you
can go to you, and the timethere is doing it, etc.
And the report to the double issuper interesting also in this
context.
SPEAKER_03 (55:19):
That's the format, it's like the format that you
pass six years at suffering.
Evidently muscularly charge, butthere's a double.
SPEAKER_04 (55:46):
No, I think the fact of the way to the fact that we
have a great time, a great timeof record into each other.
Is there a reverse of the mediawhere just you let the time to
redescend, to refresh, thedoors, install, muscular or
(56:08):
other.
And the way to report, is it'snot difficult to enchant 140
bornes on the TDS, where they'reall in your rhythm, entre
guillemets?
SPEAKER_03 (56:23):
In fact, the matter, when you live at 5 hours of
match, it's the quatrime year,there's some borne in the
jambes, you are for 60, it'scomplicated already, you know.
And if you turn on the chanceyou have to pass one journey in
the desert, you just change theangle and you say a chance to
(56:44):
do.
And in fact, you are decent, andyour heart shiffs at the end,
and you keep it.
SPEAKER_02 (57:01):
And just on this comfort, entre guillemets, it is
relative.
And you know, the more the moremoment just on your chaise, but
(57:23):
you appreciate it.
SPEAKER_04 (57:42):
For passing a little bit concrete, you can have an
idea of the tariffs?
When we are on the 160, theformat, I imagine the course.
SPEAKER_03 (57:51):
It's always eight years, a department the same.
If you don't have batteries,it's the 22 May and 21 May.
(58:23):
Plus assistance, etc.
What you see, BS, what you pay,I think it's very rentable.
In the experience that we haveon the episode, it's very fine.
SPEAKER_04 (58:46):
If there are people who are the podcast will be
informed of the suit,potentially remarkable
inscriptions, etc.
SPEAKER_03 (58:54):
We will see that the month of December.
The first of the things is we'recommunicating on our Insta ultra
distance.
And we have an Instagram and aFacebook Transatlas Marathon.
So we'll repeat the and we willcommunicate very well and to
(59:18):
lancere the inscriptions ideallyafter the fin of the day.
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (59:22):
After we are completely disponible on the
comp insta, so for all questionsor what it's like.
Evidently, excellent.
SPEAKER_04 (59:38):
It's a pleasure to have your news.
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