March 12, 2024 • 33 mins
As I sat tweaking the studio lighting and cooling the room to the perfect temperature, it struck me how even these small rituals of change set the stage for the monumental transformations we're about to share with you. Our latest episode unpacks a transformative concept bestowed upon us by a former CEO: change is not just inevitable, but a rich source of opportunity. We delve into personal stories and pivotal moments that highlight the essence of preparation, communication, and the art of relationship-building in spotting and seizing the chances that life throws our way. Entrepreneurs, dreamers, and anyone on the path to personal growth, this is your soundtrack to embracing the unknown with open arms.
Have you ever considered that the daily grind might be blinding you to a world brimming with possibilities? Our conversation weaves through the realms of personal growth, from gym analogies that make us rethink life's hurdles to a comical yet enlightening allergy test narrative that serves as a metaphor for life's unexpected trials. We stress the invaluable role of perspective in recognizing opportunities and how continuous learning—be it through books, podcasts, or conversations—can illuminate paths previously hidden. It's not just about what you see; it's about what you perceive.
We end on a rallying note, sharing stories of individuals who found their 'gold' by remaining endlessly curious and open to learning. Like the business owner whose simple idea blossomed into a thriving home decor line, we inspire you to see change as your ally in the quest for greatness. Our heartfelt anecdotes and advice are your catalysts for transformation, urging you to stretch beyond your comfort zones and realize the untapped potential waiting to be discovered. So, come along on this journey with us—let's turn change into opportunity together.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so we set down to record this episode and, on
Instagram as Piers getting allthe lighting right, shout out to
our production tech.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Our lighting guy, our producer, none, all the things.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You do a lot of things.
I always have to crank the ACbefore we start recording
because I get so hot and sweatysetting up all these cameras
y'all looking at right now andall the lights that are here in
our living room.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Usually when I have a blanket, and I don't have a
blanket today and I was gettingin the bad mood because I was
too cold.
Anyway, I'm on Instagram andthis video pops up where this
guy is interviewing a former CEOof Blockbuster and 7-Eleven so
multi-million dollar companiesand he's the former CEO and the
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interviewer asked the guy hey,like, what's your top three
things of?
How did you get to where youare?
His number one thing was changeand he said change equals
opportunity.
And he was like actually that'show I've coined the phrase CEO,
ceo, change equals opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You know what?
You told me that earlier and Iguess I wasn't listening to you,
which now makes a lot of sense.
Change equals opportunity CEO.
That's crazy.
See, I'm excited about thistopic because we love talking
about opportunities here in ourhousehold.
You know we're always talkingabout.
You know there's one of my oldteachers, mentors that used to
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always say you know,opportunities come to those who
are prepared.
If you're not prepared, youwill never see opportunities,
and even not even just seeopportunities, even recognize
that opportunities are rightthere in front of you.
And so change is one of the bigones which I didn't realize.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That's what you was mentioning to me, yeah, and so
he was saying you have to leaninto the change.
He was like everybody hateschange.
He was like the only peoplethat like change is a baby who
needs their diaper change.
That's funny.
He's a great father yeah he waslike but if you can be the
difference and you can lean intochange and think, oh wait,
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here's change, this can equalopportunity, he's like you can
leverage that and you'll get tolike progress and rise above all
the other people because youembrace that change rather than
what most people say are like Idon't like this change, I don't
want to do this, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, even with like.
When it comes to opportunities,as you're talking, I think
about.
You know, opportunities caneven come to us when we develop
relationships with other people.
So, true, opportunities caneven come to us.
Or we can realize opportunitieswhen we learn to communicate
what we're going through better.
You're in a situation right nowwhere you're talking to one of
your clients and you're able toelaborate and communicate
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something that you're working on, yep, and because you were able
to get your words togetherproperly, she saw an opportunity
through your words and Iremember you coming home and I
said to you after you told methe whole story, I'm like do you
see the opportunity here?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
And I was like heck, yeah.
And I told that person yes, amillion times.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
yet yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah.
So I think it's really learningas we grow in entrepreneurship
because that's something for uswe I'm working on a few things
on the side and realizing thatthis entrepreneur life if that's
something you're interested inor you'd like to see that in
yourself someday a lot of thatis really taking risks, and what
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those risks mean are differentthings, but a lot of that risk
is honestly just taking a jumpinto the unknown.
You can strategize, you canthink you have it all figured
out and maybe you think thatthat will give you like the
confidence to make that jump.
But I was talking to otherfriends of ours that are
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entrepreneurs and they were like, yeah, we took the first jump
and then now, a year later,we're at the second jump and we
just have to jump again.
And it was like a light bulbthat entrepreneurship growing
businesses, taking risks isliterally just a jump after a
jump after a jump.
None of it will ever make senseperfectly on paper, and if it
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does make sense on paper, it'snot going to play out that way.
So then your paperwork was fornothing.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And I feel like sometimes people think that they
have a little thought, you havea little idea and you just want
it to be this huge, massivething, right, even us going live
with all this YouTube stuff,right, you know, I have guys
saying like, oh man, are youguys going viral?
Have you guys gone viral yet?
And I'm like I'm not chasing.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
That's not on our book at all.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm not trying to be viral.
I said this before.
I'm like I'm not trying to goviral.
I'm trying to bring value right, but we won't ever know what
that's going to feel like to getto level 10 if we don't start
with level one.
And a lot of times we thinkbecause we know, because we
imagine the unknown, it's theunknown right, it's the fear
which holds us back.
But really what we have torealize is what's the very next
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opportunity that's before you.
And if there are noopportunities, as before you,
first of all, I'm going to tellyou this it's a lie.
There are opportunities ineverything.
It's your perception Thanks forwatching it's your point of
view, right, and it's yourpreparation that is holding you
back from seeing theopportunities that are for you.
There's opportunitieseverywhere, so true.
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Like anytime I walk into a room,I think, okay, and I'm gonna
say this too.
You know like people think, ohman, that guy's an opportunist.
There's nothing wrong withbeing an opportunist if you're
healthy with it, right.
You know, there's anopportunity for two people to
come into a partnership.
What makes you unhealthy is ifyou're only thinking about
yourself, and you're onlythinking about yourself, or what
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can I get out of this?
I walk into a room and I think,okay, what can I bring to this
room?
What type of value can I bringto this gathering?
What type of value can I bringin this meeting?
Also, what type ofopportunities are before me?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I think what you said , though, is like so important
to zone in on.
What is the difference of beingan opportunist and looking for
opportunities?
And it's where is yourviewpoint?
Is it about yourself, or is itabout the opportunity?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, yeah, because looking for opportunity it's
both sides, it's reciprocated.
So I'm trying to see what typeof opportunities I can make
available for people that I'maround, that I'm in the room.
There's an opportunity here forme, but there's an opportunity
here for you too as well.
And some people who aren'thealthy, they'll look at me and
say, oh man, this guy just wantsan opportunity, right for both
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of us.
But if you're not prepared andyour perception is all jacked up
, you're just thinking that I'mjust trying to get after myself,
which, of course, but also youcould benefit from this too as
well, if your perception isproper and you're prepared for
an opportunity, as before youtoo.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But we can also a lot of us can think of those people
that walk into a room andyou're like, oh man, this person
is such an opportunist, but ithas nothing to do with the
people around them.
It only has to do with thatperson themselves and they'll do
whatever they can to figure itout for themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah.
So my question that I have foreverybody that's listening to
this right now are are you in aposition right now where you
feel like man, there's just noopportunities in front of me,
right?
Are you like looking at yourlife?
You're looking at yoursituation, you're like man, just
nothing has opened up.
So I read a quote the other daywhich these police sirens right
now, you guys hear this thiswhat happens when it's city life
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, city life, guys, you can'teven cut that out the microphone
, we just use it, right?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
We're just gonna leave it.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
You're just gonna use it.
I read a quote the other dayand it said that opportunities
don't knock at the door, thatyou actually have to kick down
the door, and I thought I waslike I don't know, I feel like
that's debatable.
Right, I feel like that'sdebatable because I understand
what that person is talkingabout, meaning like you have to
go looking for it.
Go after it and theopportunities are on the other
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side of that door and you haveto knock it down.
But actually I can argue thatand say I think sometimes an
opportunity may be a simpleknock at the door.
Opportunities I don't think,bang on the door.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I think it's a very soft knock.
I think it's just a knock andyou have to hear it.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You have to hear, you have to be like oh, did you
guys see that, or did you hearthat?
I know for me, every time I'min meetings and people are
talking, a lot of times wealways think about okay, what's
the first thing we're gonna say?
I've learned hard now toactually listen and sometimes
I'll even take notes.
So, like, if I'm having likeone-on-ones or meeting with
people and they say somethingthat triggers a thought, before
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I water on that thought, I'lljust jot it down so I can listen
to the rest of the stuff thatthey're saying while they
elaborate, my thought actuallystarts to grow.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And we've talked about this before too of when
you have a thought or someonesays something that sparks
something like ask a questionfirst.
So asking a question about thatthought of like oh, you said
this, what does that mean foryou?
Or how does that make you feel?
Like we've said that in otherepisodes of like we ask the
question first before you pounceon that idea.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, so I've been praying.
I was talking to someone theother day and there's a few
opportunities that's in front ofthem.
After they spoke to me abouttheir situation, that they're
going through, they only saw oneopportunity After they finished
speaking.
I was like there's about fouropportunities that you just
stated here.
They're like really.
I said let's talk slowly, breakdown everything that you just
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said, and I remember telling theperson.
I said I think you need to pray, that God helps you see the
opportunities that are in frontof you.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
How many opportunities do we have in
front of us that we're straightup missing?
So sometimes we're strugglingin life, Sometimes we're going
through some situations, ourbusinesses, the stuff that we're
trying to start, the peoplethat we're in relationship with,
and we're just like man.
Just nothing is opening up.
Maybe or maybe you haven'tchanged anything in your life to
present new opportunities.
It's like going to the gym.
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You might walk into the gym andyou see all these things that
are in the gym and you're likeman I don't know, I can never do
three pull-ups.
You don't have to do a pull-up.
There are other pull machinesthat can work the same back
muscles and if you prepareyourself, build yourself up, one
day you might be able to hangon that bar and do one pull-up.
I get it, you can't do thatpull-up right now, but there are
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other things in this gym thatcan prepare you for that.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Right and there are people in the gym that can help
you get to that point and thatperson sitting there saying, hey
, this is what I have and Ithink there's only one option.
But because they trusted youand confided in you, you're like
, actually you have about fouroptions.
I think it's so valuable wetalk about this all the time
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Relationships, who's around you?
I said something today and Isaid it to you.
I said, since it did kind ofsound smart, but I wasn't being
smart and you asked me you saiddo you really mean it?
But I said, because you havesuch a good viewpoint from over
there, what should I do?
And it did sound smart, but itreally meant like when I'm in
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this situation, when I'm herelooking at myself, it's really
hard to see a full 360.
But because you are my partnerand you're sitting over there
and you have such a goodviewpoint of me outside of
myself, you can see a differentperspective.
What should I do?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah.
So it's an opportunity to grow,one of the biggest things.
I think there's a pitfall alsotoo for people where they get to
the point where they justaccept who they are, they accept
the situation, they accept thehand that they've been dealt and
they don't want to grow.
You don't want to read books,you don't want to listen to
podcasts, you don't want tolisten to other people.
Listen to Craig Grishel theother day and he talks about how
one of there's a style ofdecision makers and some of them
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are like lone wolf, incendiary,like decision makers, so they
only make decisions bythemselves.
But, like you said earlier,like there's someone else that's
in the room that has adifferent viewpoint from it.
It's like sports.
I talk about this all the timein leadership.
It's like sports, like youdon't want everyone on your team
to play the same positionbecause there's other people on
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the field that have a differentperspective on the field, and so
for you to get to that pointtells me that you were healthy
enough to actually partner upwith someone else in your
relationship and say, hey, howdo you see it from where you are
?
And I think we need to grow upsometimes.
You know I've been saying thatin the last couple of episodes
about growing up.
If we can grow up like I knowour kids like, as they grow up
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they're able to see mom and daddifferently.
They're able to see our housedifferently.
Our son right now he'sunderstanding money differently
and how you have to work for it.
Right, that comes with growingup, but that comes with change.
If you want opportunities toopen up in your life, there's
some things that you're going tohave to change the ideas and
things that you used to do backin the day, stuff that you used
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to do.
I read, I was reading in a bookthe other day Rich Dad, poor
Dad and it talks about how ideasand opportunities and things
that were mindsets, that wereassets right Assets in the past
for the future could be aliability.
So there might be somethingthat you've done and it's like
this is how we've always done it.
If that's how you've alwaysdone it and you don't like the
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results that you're doing, youeither need to change some
things, you either need to getother people in your life.
You need to be able to open upyour eyes so that you can see
new opportunities, even in thatsame book.
I like a thought that it said,like it talked about how
opportunities sometimes aren'teven seen with your eyes.
They are seen with your mind.
I'm going to say that one moretime Opportunities aren't even
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seen, sometimes, with your eyes.
They are seen with your mind.
So sometimes the way you see itmay not be the way that the
results are going to come out.
You should get other people inyour life.
You should be able to look atit through other filters read
books, listen to podcasts, gainmore understanding.
And now your mind grows and nowyour perception changes, and
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now your eyes are seeing newopportunities.
It's true.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Also, I just want to say that I'm really itching this
episode, guys.
I had an allergy test this weekand I keep finding myself
itching my face, itching my neck.
I'm like in this video they'regoing to say why is Daniel Lee
so fidgety?
That's why y'all had an allergytest this week and it sucked.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Now you look like me, like when I'm always doing this
, and they're like why is healways smacking his face all the
time?
Relax, stop judging me, allright, anyways, I just needed to
put it out there.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
If y'all see that I'm fidgety today, that's why I
also love I had this quote too.
Most people overestimate therisks and underestimate what
they can accomplish, and I thinkthat that speaks to a lot of
how we move in certain things.
In certain aspects, weunderestimate how far we can
actually take something if wejust jump out, but we
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underestimate wait, what is it?
Yeah, we underestimate how muchwe can accomplish, but we
overestimate the risks.
So we think that there's allthese reasons why we shouldn't
do it and that it may not govery far, but if you actually
flip, flop it like you couldtake it so far and there's just
a few little humps you're goingto have to get over, and so I
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just think that that's a lot ofthe mindset your mindset,
shifting your mind, changingyour mind, changing your habits
All of those things will rollinto success.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So if you're in a situation right now where you're
like, man, I need to figure outhow to make more income, right,
we're in a situation similar tothat, where we're like life is
changing, but okay, what areother things that we can do to
bring other streams of incomebesides the ones that we have?
So, for us, we start readingmore books, we start gaining
more understanding, we startcollabing with those that's gone
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before us.
You guys heard me say it in ourfirst, maybe second, episode
about getting advice from peoplewho you want your life to look
like.
So there's people that I'llreach out to and I say hey, man,
I see certain things happeningin your life.
Like, talk me through, how'dyou get there?
And I'm going to say this too ifyou guys haven't caught up on
some of the other episodes, goahead and do that.
I'm going to pause right nowand also say if you feel like
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this is bringing you value andyou guys are joining or enjoying
this channel, hit that likebutton, hit subscribe.
If you're listening to this onSpotify, apple Music, download
these episodes, save them screen, record them, screenshot it,
send it to somebody.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Listen, we love your screen, record it.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Screen record it.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
That's the world we live in, right People screen,
record it, tag it on IG, onTikTok.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
We're on TikTok, by the way, if you guys don't know
it, we are on.
Tiktok.
We had to get on it,unfortunately.
Unfortunately, no, I'm playing.
We're on TikTok, we're on IGand we're also on Facebook,
which is I personally hateFacebook.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
We're trying to hit certain generations.
So yeah, facebook generation,instagram generation, tiktok
generation all that, all theabove.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
So, but opportunities , right?
What's right in front of youthat you can't even see?
And if you can't see it, whatcan you do to gain more
understanding so that you'reable to think?
For us Christians and believers, we believe that we don't walk
by sight, we walk by faith,right?
So if you guys don't know that,right, paul talks about in 1
Corinthians, that's in the Bible.
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There's a book in the Bible andhe talks about that how we
actually don't walk by what wesee, we walk by what we believe.
So if you believe you could doit, if you believe that you can
see it, right then gain moreunderstanding, gain more
knowledge and I guarantee you,in your situation right now,
more opportunities will open up.
I would never forget, many yearsago.
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So, for those of you who don'tknow, we've lived in a lot of
different places, six differentstates, between just the two of
us.
A lot of places.
All of us were born indifferent states.
By the way, if you guys don't,I guess we should probably tell
more about our story, right?
Dan Lee was born in Indiana, Iwas born in New York, jordan was
born in Florida, brooklyn wasborn in California, but we've
lived in so many differentplaces.
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I always talk about how Jordanlived in three different states
by the time he was three, whichis crazy.
That's bananas.
That's wild.
But I'll never forget one timewhen we were living in St Louis,
missouri, and we were loving it.
We loved it there.
I was working for a churchthere.
It was part of the community.
We actually never wanted toleave.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
We loved it.
We wanted to have all our kidsin St Louis and buy a house in a
really cute neighborhood in StLouis.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
We lived in a whole snap.
We lived right here in themiddle of the country.
It's a few hours to get toMemphis, few hours to get to
Nashville.
We can get to Kansas City,Chicago, all the different
places.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
It was the first time we were in driving distance of
my family.
That had never happened.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I'm like yo, we could drive everywhere.
And one day we're like, allright, we like where we're
living, let's find another place.
So we started looking atdifferent townhouses, condos,
houses, all this stuff.
We weren't ready to buy yetbecause we've only been there
for a year.
But we're like, let's try adifferent part of the city,
let's rent out somethingdifferent so we can get a feel
for these Midwestern houses.
I've never been aroundbasements that much because I
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lived in Florida.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Basement yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Let's figure out what we could rent.
Every single door closed in ourface, slam shut.
We were looking for apartments,condos, townhouses, houses you
name it in St Louis that year wecould not find it.
Every single time a door openedup, application, we would hear
from the realtors saying likesorry, this place is no longer
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being rented out, yep.
Or it would be like someoneelse jumped in front of it.
We're like we'll pay more,someone else.
Oh, it's so many differentthings.
One day a buddy of mine comes tome and say hey, man, I know you
guys are getting ready to move,but you haven't found a place.
I got a really nice basement,brand new house.
Basement is completelyfurnished.
There's a bed, bathroom, tv,all that stuff down there.
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You guys can stay there in themeantime if you'd like.
I was like oh, cool, man, Iappreciate that, but I'm like
man, this is crazy.
This is me, this is my wife, Ihave a kid.
Like I'm not staying in anotherman's base.
Man, I'm a music pastor at abig church, all this type of
stuff.
I'm like I cannot do that.
So we're still looking, we'restill applying, we are stressed
out, we are frustrated, we'reconfused.
I'm getting mad at God.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Like God.
What are?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
you doing?
Why are these doors closing myface?
Nothing is opening up.
I was so mad at him Getting sofrustrated and then I start
thinking like, ok, there's a lotgoing on right now.
Ok, I also think you guys heardme say this in the last episode
about balance and boundaries,and I talked about how God opens
doors and he closes doors too.
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And every single door wasclosing up.
And one day I said you knowwhat?
Ok, god, whatever that you'redoing, show me, show me.
And I remember hearing thisguy's words in my head like we
got a basement if you just wantto jump in it.
Meantime I called him up.
I said hey, bro, is that allwe're still on the table?
He's like yes, we moved outwithin two days, crashed his
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basement.
It was actually one of the bestexperiences we ever had.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
It was a really cool.
It was great.
He was a great host.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And.
But here's what I'm saying.
About a week later, I waspraying and I felt in my heart I
think we're supposed to moveback to Florida.
We moved back to Floridaliterally within a week from
that moment.
If it had not been for my buddywho opened up his basement, we
would have still been therescrambling, trying to rent
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anything.
We would have locked ourselvesin the lease.
And when I tell you guys I'mgoing to share this for a whole
another day the opportunitiesthat opened up for us when we
moved back to Florida was crazy.
I'm not even going to tell youguys in this episode how we even
got to California, but what I'msaying is one opportunity led
to another opportunity.
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So, true, crazy, right, it'scrazy.
So what in your lives right noware you, what situations are
you in right now that you'refrustrated with and you refuse
to see or gain understandingwith the opportunities that are
right there in front of you?
It's big man.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
It's big and you really do have to lean on those
people.
If you are in that seat whereyou just can't see the
opportunity, you do have to leanon those people that are around
you and that you trust and thatyou know they want the best for
you, whether that's family,whether that's a close friend,
whether that is your spouse,whether that is someone that you
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really trust to see thingsobjectively and not in their own
perspective or their ownbenefit, but really truly what
is best for you when you lean onthat?
Because sometimes we are toocrowded and clouded judgment in
our own self and so we have tolean those things.
So if you're feeling frustrated, you've got to look at who's
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around you and trust them andsurrounding of your relationship
and saying, ok, I'm reachingout to you, can you help me in
this, because I can't seeanything else.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Can't see anything else.
I read the quote.
This was actually FranklinRoosevelt, franklin Roosevelt.
This is what's really cool.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
This is so random, franklin Roosevelt.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Franklin D Roosevelt and he says I'm going to read
this mad slow y'all, because Ineed you guys to understand this
and hear this.
It says the only limit to ourrealization of tomorrow will be
our doubts of today.
I'm going to say that one moretime the only limit to our
realization of tomorrow will beour doubts of today.
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So tomorrow, if you cannotreally get past today and build
some faith in yourself and gainsome freaking courage, you will
never see the opportunities thatare in front of you for
tomorrow, when next week comes,when next year comes, you're
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going to be sitting in the sameexact place.
I said it earlier opportunitiesaren't always banging on the
door.
Sometimes it is a subtle knockand you have to be like did you
hear that?
If you don't hear that, fortoday there might be a package
that was supposed to come andyou missed it.
It got returned, somethinghappened in your life and you're
still frustrated.
But yesterday there was asituation that you didn't
(24:05):
realize was right there in frontof you that can literally
change tomorrow.
So it's our fear of today right, because we overestimate the
risk, fear takes over andtomorrow we're in a much worse
situation that we're in becausethe day before, we did not make
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any changes.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And when you said courage, it reminds me courage
is what you need to make themove, but confidence comes in
later.
So sometimes you're at thatedge and you're like, okay, I
see the opportunity, I'm seeingit, but I just I don't have the
confidence to make that move.
It's okay, you don't need theconfidence right now.
What you need is courage.
(24:48):
Decide you have the courage,just make that jump.
And then the confidence comes.
When you see it start working,You're like, oh, here it comes.
Now things are clicking, nowthings are getting progressing,
Now things I'm seeing a littlebit of success or a little bit
of use or a little bit of incomestream.
So that confidence comesactually later.
It's really a do or die of jumpwith that courage and then the
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confidence comes in later.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah.
So I wanna give you guys a fewpointers on how to like,
honestly, to enhance yourability to see opportunities, to
be able to see it clearly.
One of them, I'm gonna say, isto keep educating yourself, like
, stay educated, keep gainingknowledge.
I have about three books rightnow that I'm reading.
Every single time I crack openthe book or I listen to it, I
(25:34):
have one book that I'm trying toread by turning pages and that
thing is taking me forever,right, cause I'm like when do I
have time to actually sit downand turn pages, unless it's the
Bible, right.
But I have other books that I'mdoing on Audible, and then I
have other ones that I'mactually it's more Kendall's
style but continue to gaineducation.
The more you gain moreunderstanding, the more you
educate yourself, the more yourbrain literally stretches and
(25:57):
you'll be able to see andidentify opportunities better.
Another one is to, honestly, toexpand your network of the
people that's in your circle,the people that I sit down with
and talk with.
Every time I feel like I'mstuck.
I reach out to other peoplethat I haven't networked with,
cause they start talking at awhole nother level.
(26:17):
It's true.
They start talking about stuffI'm like, oh, that's crazy.
I find myself being the mostquiet person in the room and
sometimes I like that becausesomeone else is educating me and
schooling me.
Network, network, network.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And if you don't have those people in your life, pray
for them to come into your life.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, another one I was gonna say is stay curious,
like always wonder or think orlearn to research, learn to like
hmm, I wonder what is that?
And look it up.
Yo, we have Google, now we gotchat, gbt, there's all these
things that literally, literally, that we can tap into all the
(26:53):
time and learn more things.
Stay curious.
If you stay curious, like it's,like am I saying it right?
Curious, curious.
You know, it's cause my Frenchaccent.
I can't always say stuff right,all right, all right, so relax,
all right, just yeah, he's likeoh my gosh, he's French.
Other day I went to Chick-fil-Aand you know we're out here in
Southern California.
And there's a lot of all my youknow, all of my Latinas are.
(27:15):
You know, hispanic, spanishspeaking people are in the area.
So I walk in and I'm like if Itell them my name is Pierre,
they're not gonna get this right.
If I say Pierre, they're gonnabe.
Oh yeah, pierre, pierre.
No.
I said Pierre, okay, I got it.
P-p-i-e-r.
No, that's Pierre.
I'm telling you Pierre, Pierre.
And then every single timethey're like order for order for
(27:38):
a Pirir.
I said no, I shouldn't.
So last time I went there and Isaid you know what?
I'm gonna give them a differentname.
They're like can I get a namefor the order please?
I said Pedro, bro.
The girl came out.
The girl came out.
She's like I have an order forPedro.
I was like I knew it.
I knew y'all was gonna.
I was like y'all was gonna nailthis name.
(27:59):
That's hilarious.
So, for a lot of you guys.
You know I go by a lot ofdifferent names A lot of
different names, but I love thatyou said it.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Stay curious.
I am in this season and a lotof people that know us right now
in this season dang, I gottatake the tag off the bottom of
that cup.
That's really wicked.
Anyways, a lot of people thatknow me in this season have seen
me do a lot of things Right,and that was because for so many
years I put myself in a box anddidn't let myself get out of
(28:27):
that box.
I was afraid to go into anyother lanes.
I was a hairdresser and thatwas it.
I was a hairstylist and I'monly creative when I do this
type of hair.
And in 2020 is when I finallyallowed myself to get out of
that box and I started to becurious and I was allowing
(28:48):
myself to explore these otherways and I learned I actually am
a full creative person Straightcreative.
I am messy in my like way.
I keep my bedroom.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Boy, yeah, you are.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
We don't need to go into it, or not sorry, you're
creative, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, I'm creative.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I'm creative in how I store my clothes.
I'm creative in how I do mymakeup.
I'm creative in so I didballoons for a year and I loved
doing balloons.
I went back to hair.
I have been volunteering insocial media at our church.
I've gotten into graphic stuffin Canva Like I was so curious
about so many things but Ihonestly, the fear literally
(29:24):
kept me in that box for so manyyears.
So some people in the last fewyears are probably like man
Danny Lee's all over the place.
I'm so glad you noticed.
Thank you, that's a growth forme and I'm in all over the place
season of like.
Let's try all these thingsbecause it's exploring a whole
new side of me that I didn'tknow was there.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Exactly and sometimes like that's how you're gonna
stumble upon the nextopportunities, right?
You know TD Jakes used to tellthe story all the time about how
, like people say, hey, how'dyou get into that, how'd you get
into that?
He was like I kind of juststumbled upon it.
Yo, the person that saidcuriosity kills the cat is
someone that got nowhere.
It's somebody that lives infear.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Curiosity kills the cat.
Like what is that?
I'm telling you.
Curiosity opens doors.
Curiosity allows you to stumbleupon something that can
possibly change your life.
If you walked into a basementor walked into attic, if you're
curious, you might findsomething nobody else was using.
Find the opportunity that noone else has tapped into.
(30:27):
The only way you're gonna beable to do that is by being
curious.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, and I've talked to so many business owners.
I talked to one yesterday andshe was like my idea seems so
simple.
I can't believe no one ever didit before and she went for it
and she built a home decorbusiness based off of an idea
that she could not believe wasnot already made.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah.
So I wanna just tap in the verylast one.
I'm gonna say so, of course.
So I said to continue toeducate yourself.
The other one was to expandyour network, and that one right
there that I just said was tostay curious.
And the very last one we'regonna go back to the top was to
embrace change.
Be okay with change If you'regoing into the gym, if you're
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trying to change your diets, allthose type of things.
Be curious, educate yourself,get other people around your
circle, but embrace the change.
You'll be surprised, theopportunities that opens up
before y'all.
That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Be that CEO.
Change equals opportunity, andhow you embrace that change, how
you jump into change, how youlook for the change and then how
you implement that change inyourself will determine whether
you're gonna be a CEO, whetheryou're gonna go up to the next
level, whether you're gonnastart the business.
(31:46):
And, honestly, we're justcheerleaders here for you.
We are rooting for you, like,if you wanna start that business
, if you have an idea, go for it.
We're in that season, we'regoing for ideas, we're going for
businesses.
I've got things in the works,two different things that I'm
working on outside of even thisopportunity.
I'm working on those things andwe're just cheerleaders rooting
(32:09):
for you.
Go for it, because every daythat you sit there in doubt and
think of how it couldn't workout, you're missing your dream.
You're missing out on theopportunity that you could be
putting in towards your dream.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yep.
So I wanna encourage you guysto continue to dig, continue to
discover your purpose, continueto chase after God, like so many
different things can change inyour life.
We've been digging, we've beendiscovering.
There are gems that we'repulling out, there are bad roots
that we're pulling out andwe're finding gold.
Let's dig.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Let's dig.
Okay, so we set down to record this episode and, on
Instagram as Piers getting allthe lighting right, shout out to
our production tech.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Our lighting guy, our producer, none, all the things.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You do a lot of things.
I always have to crank the ACbefore we start recording
because I get so hot and sweatysetting up all these cameras
y'all looking at right now andall the lights that are here in
our living room.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Usually when I have a blanket, and I don't have a
blanket today and I was gettingin the bad mood because I was
too cold.
Anyway, I'm on Instagram andthis video pops up where this
guy is interviewing a former CEOof Blockbuster and 7-Eleven so
multi-million dollar companiesand he's the former CEO and the
(00:46):
interviewer asked the guy hey,like, what's your top three
things of?
How did you get to where youare?
His number one thing was changeand he said change equals
opportunity.
And he was like actually that'show I've coined the phrase CEO,
ceo, change equals opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You know what?
You told me that earlier and Iguess I wasn't listening to you,
which now makes a lot of sense.
Change equals opportunity CEO.
That's crazy.
See, I'm excited about thistopic because we love talking
about opportunities here in ourhousehold.
You know we're always talkingabout.
You know there's one of my oldteachers, mentors that used to
(01:28):
always say you know,opportunities come to those who
are prepared.
If you're not prepared, youwill never see opportunities,
and even not even just seeopportunities, even recognize
that opportunities are rightthere in front of you.
And so change is one of the bigones which I didn't realize.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That's what you was mentioning to me, yeah, and so
he was saying you have to leaninto the change.
He was like everybody hateschange.
He was like the only peoplethat like change is a baby who
needs their diaper change.
That's funny.
He's a great father yeah he waslike but if you can be the
difference and you can lean intochange and think, oh wait,
(02:05):
here's change, this can equalopportunity, he's like you can
leverage that and you'll get tolike progress and rise above all
the other people because youembrace that change rather than
what most people say are like Idon't like this change, I don't
want to do this, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, even with like.
When it comes to opportunities,as you're talking, I think
about.
You know, opportunities caneven come to us when we develop
relationships with other people.
So, true, opportunities caneven come to us.
Or we can realize opportunitieswhen we learn to communicate
what we're going through better.
You're in a situation right nowwhere you're talking to one of
your clients and you're able toelaborate and communicate
(02:45):
something that you're working on, yep, and because you were able
to get your words togetherproperly, she saw an opportunity
through your words and Iremember you coming home and I
said to you after you told methe whole story, I'm like do you
see the opportunity here?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
And I was like heck, yeah.
And I told that person yes, amillion times.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
yet yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah.
So I think it's really learningas we grow in entrepreneurship
because that's something for uswe I'm working on a few things
on the side and realizing thatthis entrepreneur life if that's
something you're interested inor you'd like to see that in
yourself someday a lot of thatis really taking risks, and what
(03:28):
those risks mean are differentthings, but a lot of that risk
is honestly just taking a jumpinto the unknown.
You can strategize, you canthink you have it all figured
out and maybe you think thatthat will give you like the
confidence to make that jump.
But I was talking to otherfriends of ours that are
(03:48):
entrepreneurs and they were like, yeah, we took the first jump
and then now, a year later,we're at the second jump and we
just have to jump again.
And it was like a light bulbthat entrepreneurship growing
businesses, taking risks isliterally just a jump after a
jump after a jump.
None of it will ever make senseperfectly on paper, and if it
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does make sense on paper, it'snot going to play out that way.
So then your paperwork was fornothing.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And I feel like sometimes people think that they
have a little thought, you havea little idea and you just want
it to be this huge, massivething, right, even us going live
with all this YouTube stuff,right, you know, I have guys
saying like, oh man, are youguys going viral?
Have you guys gone viral yet?
And I'm like I'm not chasing.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
That's not on our book at all.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm not trying to be viral.
I said this before.
I'm like I'm not trying to goviral.
I'm trying to bring value right, but we won't ever know what
that's going to feel like to getto level 10 if we don't start
with level one.
And a lot of times we thinkbecause we know, because we
imagine the unknown, it's theunknown right, it's the fear
which holds us back.
But really what we have torealize is what's the very next
(05:04):
opportunity that's before you.
And if there are noopportunities, as before you,
first of all, I'm going to tellyou this it's a lie.
There are opportunities ineverything.
It's your perception Thanks forwatching it's your point of
view, right, and it's yourpreparation that is holding you
back from seeing theopportunities that are for you.
There's opportunitieseverywhere, so true.
(05:25):
Like anytime I walk into a room,I think, okay, and I'm gonna
say this too.
You know like people think, ohman, that guy's an opportunist.
There's nothing wrong withbeing an opportunist if you're
healthy with it, right.
You know, there's anopportunity for two people to
come into a partnership.
What makes you unhealthy is ifyou're only thinking about
yourself, and you're onlythinking about yourself, or what
(05:45):
can I get out of this?
I walk into a room and I think,okay, what can I bring to this
room?
What type of value can I bringto this gathering?
What type of value can I bringin this meeting?
Also, what type ofopportunities are before me?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I think what you said , though, is like so important
to zone in on.
What is the difference of beingan opportunist and looking for
opportunities?
And it's where is yourviewpoint?
Is it about yourself, or is itabout the opportunity?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, yeah, because looking for opportunity it's
both sides, it's reciprocated.
So I'm trying to see what typeof opportunities I can make
available for people that I'maround, that I'm in the room.
There's an opportunity here forme, but there's an opportunity
here for you too as well.
And some people who aren'thealthy, they'll look at me and
say, oh man, this guy just wantsan opportunity, right for both
(06:40):
of us.
But if you're not prepared andyour perception is all jacked up
, you're just thinking that I'mjust trying to get after myself,
which, of course, but also youcould benefit from this too as
well, if your perception isproper and you're prepared for
an opportunity, as before youtoo.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But we can also a lot of us can think of those people
that walk into a room andyou're like, oh man, this person
is such an opportunist, but ithas nothing to do with the
people around them.
It only has to do with thatperson themselves and they'll do
whatever they can to figure itout for themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah.
So my question that I have foreverybody that's listening to
this right now are are you in aposition right now where you
feel like man, there's just noopportunities in front of me,
right?
Are you like looking at yourlife?
You're looking at yoursituation, you're like man, just
nothing has opened up.
So I read a quote the other daywhich these police sirens right
now, you guys hear this thiswhat happens when it's city life
(07:38):
, city life, guys, you can'teven cut that out the microphone
, we just use it, right?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
We're just gonna leave it.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
You're just gonna use it.
I read a quote the other dayand it said that opportunities
don't knock at the door, thatyou actually have to kick down
the door, and I thought I waslike I don't know, I feel like
that's debatable.
Right, I feel like that'sdebatable because I understand
what that person is talkingabout, meaning like you have to
go looking for it.
Go after it and theopportunities are on the other
(08:06):
side of that door and you haveto knock it down.
But actually I can argue thatand say I think sometimes an
opportunity may be a simpleknock at the door.
Opportunities I don't think,bang on the door.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I think it's a very soft knock.
I think it's just a knock andyou have to hear it.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You have to hear, you have to be like oh, did you
guys see that, or did you hearthat?
I know for me, every time I'min meetings and people are
talking, a lot of times wealways think about okay, what's
the first thing we're gonna say?
I've learned hard now toactually listen and sometimes
I'll even take notes.
So, like, if I'm having likeone-on-ones or meeting with
people and they say somethingthat triggers a thought, before
(08:43):
I water on that thought, I'lljust jot it down so I can listen
to the rest of the stuff thatthey're saying while they
elaborate, my thought actuallystarts to grow.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And we've talked about this before too of when
you have a thought or someonesays something that sparks
something like ask a questionfirst.
So asking a question about thatthought of like oh, you said
this, what does that mean foryou?
Or how does that make you feel?
Like we've said that in otherepisodes of like we ask the
question first before you pounceon that idea.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, so I've been praying.
I was talking to someone theother day and there's a few
opportunities that's in front ofthem.
After they spoke to me abouttheir situation, that they're
going through, they only saw oneopportunity After they finished
speaking.
I was like there's about fouropportunities that you just
stated here.
They're like really.
I said let's talk slowly, breakdown everything that you just
(09:34):
said, and I remember telling theperson.
I said I think you need to pray, that God helps you see the
opportunities that are in frontof you.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
How many opportunities do we have in
front of us that we're straightup missing?
So sometimes we're strugglingin life, Sometimes we're going
through some situations, ourbusinesses, the stuff that we're
trying to start, the peoplethat we're in relationship with,
and we're just like man.
Just nothing is opening up.
Maybe or maybe you haven'tchanged anything in your life to
present new opportunities.
It's like going to the gym.
(10:05):
You might walk into the gym andyou see all these things that
are in the gym and you're likeman I don't know, I can never do
three pull-ups.
You don't have to do a pull-up.
There are other pull machinesthat can work the same back
muscles and if you prepareyourself, build yourself up, one
day you might be able to hangon that bar and do one pull-up.
I get it, you can't do thatpull-up right now, but there are
(10:26):
other things in this gym thatcan prepare you for that.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Right and there are people in the gym that can help
you get to that point and thatperson sitting there saying, hey
, this is what I have and Ithink there's only one option.
But because they trusted youand confided in you, you're like
, actually you have about fouroptions.
I think it's so valuable wetalk about this all the time
(10:51):
Relationships, who's around you?
I said something today and Isaid it to you.
I said, since it did kind ofsound smart, but I wasn't being
smart and you asked me you saiddo you really mean it?
But I said, because you havesuch a good viewpoint from over
there, what should I do?
And it did sound smart, but itreally meant like when I'm in
(11:14):
this situation, when I'm herelooking at myself, it's really
hard to see a full 360.
But because you are my partnerand you're sitting over there
and you have such a goodviewpoint of me outside of
myself, you can see a differentperspective.
What should I do?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah.
So it's an opportunity to grow,one of the biggest things.
I think there's a pitfall alsotoo for people where they get to
the point where they justaccept who they are, they accept
the situation, they accept thehand that they've been dealt and
they don't want to grow.
You don't want to read books,you don't want to listen to
podcasts, you don't want tolisten to other people.
Listen to Craig Grishel theother day and he talks about how
one of there's a style ofdecision makers and some of them
(11:50):
are like lone wolf, incendiary,like decision makers, so they
only make decisions bythemselves.
But, like you said earlier,like there's someone else that's
in the room that has adifferent viewpoint from it.
It's like sports.
I talk about this all the timein leadership.
It's like sports, like youdon't want everyone on your team
to play the same positionbecause there's other people on
(12:11):
the field that have a differentperspective on the field, and so
for you to get to that pointtells me that you were healthy
enough to actually partner upwith someone else in your
relationship and say, hey, howdo you see it from where you are
?
And I think we need to grow upsometimes.
You know I've been saying thatin the last couple of episodes
about growing up.
If we can grow up like I knowour kids like, as they grow up
(12:34):
they're able to see mom and daddifferently.
They're able to see our housedifferently.
Our son right now he'sunderstanding money differently
and how you have to work for it.
Right, that comes with growingup, but that comes with change.
If you want opportunities toopen up in your life, there's
some things that you're going tohave to change the ideas and
things that you used to do backin the day, stuff that you used
(12:56):
to do.
I read, I was reading in a bookthe other day Rich Dad, poor
Dad and it talks about how ideasand opportunities and things
that were mindsets, that wereassets right Assets in the past
for the future could be aliability.
So there might be somethingthat you've done and it's like
this is how we've always done it.
If that's how you've alwaysdone it and you don't like the
(13:17):
results that you're doing, youeither need to change some
things, you either need to getother people in your life.
You need to be able to open upyour eyes so that you can see
new opportunities, even in thatsame book.
I like a thought that it said,like it talked about how
opportunities sometimes aren'teven seen with your eyes.
They are seen with your mind.
I'm going to say that one moretime Opportunities aren't even
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seen, sometimes, with your eyes.
They are seen with your mind.
So sometimes the way you see itmay not be the way that the
results are going to come out.
You should get other people inyour life.
You should be able to look atit through other filters read
books, listen to podcasts, gainmore understanding.
And now your mind grows and nowyour perception changes, and
(14:04):
now your eyes are seeing newopportunities.
It's true.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Also, I just want to say that I'm really itching this
episode, guys.
I had an allergy test this weekand I keep finding myself
itching my face, itching my neck.
I'm like in this video they'regoing to say why is Daniel Lee
so fidgety?
That's why y'all had an allergytest this week and it sucked.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Now you look like me, like when I'm always doing this
, and they're like why is healways smacking his face all the
time?
Relax, stop judging me, allright, anyways, I just needed to
put it out there.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
If y'all see that I'm fidgety today, that's why I
also love I had this quote too.
Most people overestimate therisks and underestimate what
they can accomplish, and I thinkthat that speaks to a lot of
how we move in certain things.
In certain aspects, weunderestimate how far we can
actually take something if wejust jump out, but we
(14:56):
underestimate wait, what is it?
Yeah, we underestimate how muchwe can accomplish, but we
overestimate the risks.
So we think that there's allthese reasons why we shouldn't
do it and that it may not govery far, but if you actually
flip, flop it like you couldtake it so far and there's just
a few little humps you're goingto have to get over, and so I
(15:19):
just think that that's a lot ofthe mindset your mindset,
shifting your mind, changingyour mind, changing your habits
All of those things will rollinto success.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So if you're in a situation right now where you're
like, man, I need to figure outhow to make more income, right,
we're in a situation similar tothat, where we're like life is
changing, but okay, what areother things that we can do to
bring other streams of incomebesides the ones that we have?
So, for us, we start readingmore books, we start gaining
more understanding, we startcollabing with those that's gone
(15:52):
before us.
You guys heard me say it in ourfirst, maybe second, episode
about getting advice from peoplewho you want your life to look
like.
So there's people that I'llreach out to and I say hey, man,
I see certain things happeningin your life.
Like, talk me through, how'dyou get there?
And I'm going to say this too ifyou guys haven't caught up on
some of the other episodes, goahead and do that.
I'm going to pause right nowand also say if you feel like
(16:14):
this is bringing you value andyou guys are joining or enjoying
this channel, hit that likebutton, hit subscribe.
If you're listening to this onSpotify, apple Music, download
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send it to somebody.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Listen, we love your screen, record it.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Screen record it.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
That's the world we live in, right People screen,
record it, tag it on IG, onTikTok.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
We're on TikTok, by the way, if you guys don't know
it, we are on.
Tiktok.
We had to get on it,unfortunately.
Unfortunately, no, I'm playing.
We're on TikTok, we're on IGand we're also on Facebook,
which is I personally hateFacebook.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
We're trying to hit certain generations.
So yeah, facebook generation,instagram generation, tiktok
generation all that, all theabove.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
So, but opportunities , right?
What's right in front of youthat you can't even see?
And if you can't see it, whatcan you do to gain more
understanding so that you'reable to think?
For us Christians and believers, we believe that we don't walk
by sight, we walk by faith,right?
So if you guys don't know that,right, paul talks about in 1
Corinthians, that's in the Bible.
(17:18):
There's a book in the Bible andhe talks about that how we
actually don't walk by what wesee, we walk by what we believe.
So if you believe you could doit, if you believe that you can
see it, right then gain moreunderstanding, gain more
knowledge and I guarantee you,in your situation right now,
more opportunities will open up.
I would never forget, many yearsago.
(17:39):
So, for those of you who don'tknow, we've lived in a lot of
different places, six differentstates, between just the two of
us.
A lot of places.
All of us were born indifferent states.
By the way, if you guys don't,I guess we should probably tell
more about our story, right?
Dan Lee was born in Indiana, Iwas born in New York, jordan was
born in Florida, brooklyn wasborn in California, but we've
lived in so many differentplaces.
(18:00):
I always talk about how Jordanlived in three different states
by the time he was three, whichis crazy.
That's bananas.
That's wild.
But I'll never forget one timewhen we were living in St Louis,
missouri, and we were loving it.
We loved it there.
I was working for a churchthere.
It was part of the community.
We actually never wanted toleave.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
We loved it.
We wanted to have all our kidsin St Louis and buy a house in a
really cute neighborhood in StLouis.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
We lived in a whole snap.
We lived right here in themiddle of the country.
It's a few hours to get toMemphis, few hours to get to
Nashville.
We can get to Kansas City,Chicago, all the different
places.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
It was the first time we were in driving distance of
my family.
That had never happened.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I'm like yo, we could drive everywhere.
And one day we're like, allright, we like where we're
living, let's find another place.
So we started looking atdifferent townhouses, condos,
houses, all this stuff.
We weren't ready to buy yetbecause we've only been there
for a year.
But we're like, let's try adifferent part of the city,
let's rent out somethingdifferent so we can get a feel
for these Midwestern houses.
I've never been aroundbasements that much because I
(18:58):
lived in Florida.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Basement yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Let's figure out what we could rent.
Every single door closed in ourface, slam shut.
We were looking for apartments,condos, townhouses, houses you
name it in St Louis that year wecould not find it.
Every single time a door openedup, application, we would hear
from the realtors saying likesorry, this place is no longer
(19:23):
being rented out, yep.
Or it would be like someoneelse jumped in front of it.
We're like we'll pay more,someone else.
Oh, it's so many differentthings.
One day a buddy of mine comes tome and say hey, man, I know you
guys are getting ready to move,but you haven't found a place.
I got a really nice basement,brand new house.
Basement is completelyfurnished.
There's a bed, bathroom, tv,all that stuff down there.
(19:44):
You guys can stay there in themeantime if you'd like.
I was like oh, cool, man, Iappreciate that, but I'm like
man, this is crazy.
This is me, this is my wife, Ihave a kid.
Like I'm not staying in anotherman's base.
Man, I'm a music pastor at abig church, all this type of
stuff.
I'm like I cannot do that.
So we're still looking, we'restill applying, we are stressed
out, we are frustrated, we'reconfused.
I'm getting mad at God.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Like God.
What are?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
you doing?
Why are these doors closing myface?
Nothing is opening up.
I was so mad at him Getting sofrustrated and then I start
thinking like, ok, there's a lotgoing on right now.
Ok, I also think you guys heardme say this in the last episode
about balance and boundaries,and I talked about how God opens
doors and he closes doors too.
(20:27):
And every single door wasclosing up.
And one day I said you knowwhat?
Ok, god, whatever that you'redoing, show me, show me.
And I remember hearing thisguy's words in my head like we
got a basement if you just wantto jump in it.
Meantime I called him up.
I said hey, bro, is that allwe're still on the table?
He's like yes, we moved outwithin two days, crashed his
(20:49):
basement.
It was actually one of the bestexperiences we ever had.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
It was a really cool.
It was great.
He was a great host.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And.
But here's what I'm saying.
About a week later, I waspraying and I felt in my heart I
think we're supposed to moveback to Florida.
We moved back to Floridaliterally within a week from
that moment.
If it had not been for my buddywho opened up his basement, we
would have still been therescrambling, trying to rent
(21:16):
anything.
We would have locked ourselvesin the lease.
And when I tell you guys I'mgoing to share this for a whole
another day the opportunitiesthat opened up for us when we
moved back to Florida was crazy.
I'm not even going to tell youguys in this episode how we even
got to California, but what I'msaying is one opportunity led
to another opportunity.
(21:36):
So, true, crazy, right, it'scrazy.
So what in your lives right noware you, what situations are
you in right now that you'refrustrated with and you refuse
to see or gain understandingwith the opportunities that are
right there in front of you?
It's big man.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
It's big and you really do have to lean on those
people.
If you are in that seat whereyou just can't see the
opportunity, you do have to leanon those people that are around
you and that you trust and thatyou know they want the best for
you, whether that's family,whether that's a close friend,
whether that is your spouse,whether that is someone that you
(22:14):
really trust to see thingsobjectively and not in their own
perspective or their ownbenefit, but really truly what
is best for you when you lean onthat?
Because sometimes we are toocrowded and clouded judgment in
our own self and so we have tolean those things.
So if you're feeling frustrated, you've got to look at who's
(22:35):
around you and trust them andsurrounding of your relationship
and saying, ok, I'm reachingout to you, can you help me in
this, because I can't seeanything else.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Can't see anything else.
I read the quote.
This was actually FranklinRoosevelt, franklin Roosevelt.
This is what's really cool.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
This is so random, franklin Roosevelt.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Franklin D Roosevelt and he says I'm going to read
this mad slow y'all, because Ineed you guys to understand this
and hear this.
It says the only limit to ourrealization of tomorrow will be
our doubts of today.
I'm going to say that one moretime the only limit to our
realization of tomorrow will beour doubts of today.
(23:23):
So tomorrow, if you cannotreally get past today and build
some faith in yourself and gainsome freaking courage, you will
never see the opportunities thatare in front of you for
tomorrow, when next week comes,when next year comes, you're
(23:44):
going to be sitting in the sameexact place.
I said it earlier opportunitiesaren't always banging on the
door.
Sometimes it is a subtle knockand you have to be like did you
hear that?
If you don't hear that, fortoday there might be a package
that was supposed to come andyou missed it.
It got returned, somethinghappened in your life and you're
still frustrated.
But yesterday there was asituation that you didn't
(24:05):
realize was right there in frontof you that can literally
change tomorrow.
So it's our fear of today right, because we overestimate the
risk, fear takes over andtomorrow we're in a much worse
situation that we're in becausethe day before, we did not make
(24:25):
any changes.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And when you said courage, it reminds me courage
is what you need to make themove, but confidence comes in
later.
So sometimes you're at thatedge and you're like, okay, I
see the opportunity, I'm seeingit, but I just I don't have the
confidence to make that move.
It's okay, you don't need theconfidence right now.
What you need is courage.
(24:48):
Decide you have the courage,just make that jump.
And then the confidence comes.
When you see it start working,You're like, oh, here it comes.
Now things are clicking, nowthings are getting progressing,
Now things I'm seeing a littlebit of success or a little bit
of use or a little bit of incomestream.
So that confidence comesactually later.
It's really a do or die of jumpwith that courage and then the
(25:12):
confidence comes in later.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah.
So I wanna give you guys a fewpointers on how to like,
honestly, to enhance yourability to see opportunities, to
be able to see it clearly.
One of them, I'm gonna say, isto keep educating yourself, like
, stay educated, keep gainingknowledge.
I have about three books rightnow that I'm reading.
Every single time I crack openthe book or I listen to it, I
(25:34):
have one book that I'm trying toread by turning pages and that
thing is taking me forever,right, cause I'm like when do I
have time to actually sit downand turn pages, unless it's the
Bible, right.
But I have other books that I'mdoing on Audible, and then I
have other ones that I'mactually it's more Kendall's
style but continue to gaineducation.
The more you gain moreunderstanding, the more you
educate yourself, the more yourbrain literally stretches and
(25:57):
you'll be able to see andidentify opportunities better.
Another one is to, honestly, toexpand your network of the
people that's in your circle,the people that I sit down with
and talk with.
Every time I feel like I'mstuck.
I reach out to other peoplethat I haven't networked with,
cause they start talking at awhole nother level.
(26:17):
It's true.
They start talking about stuffI'm like, oh, that's crazy.
I find myself being the mostquiet person in the room and
sometimes I like that becausesomeone else is educating me and
schooling me.
Network, network, network.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And if you don't have those people in your life, pray
for them to come into your life.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, another one I was gonna say is stay curious,
like always wonder or think orlearn to research, learn to like
hmm, I wonder what is that?
And look it up.
Yo, we have Google, now we gotchat, gbt, there's all these
things that literally, literally, that we can tap into all the
(26:53):
time and learn more things.
Stay curious.
If you stay curious, like it's,like am I saying it right?
Curious, curious.
You know, it's cause my Frenchaccent.
I can't always say stuff right,all right, all right, so relax,
all right, just yeah, he's likeoh my gosh, he's French.
Other day I went to Chick-fil-Aand you know we're out here in
Southern California.
And there's a lot of all my youknow, all of my Latinas are.
(27:15):
You know, hispanic, spanishspeaking people are in the area.
So I walk in and I'm like if Itell them my name is Pierre,
they're not gonna get this right.
If I say Pierre, they're gonnabe.
Oh yeah, pierre, pierre.
No.
I said Pierre, okay, I got it.
P-p-i-e-r.
No, that's Pierre.
I'm telling you Pierre, Pierre.
And then every single timethey're like order for order for
(27:38):
a Pirir.
I said no, I shouldn't.
So last time I went there and Isaid you know what?
I'm gonna give them a differentname.
They're like can I get a namefor the order please?
I said Pedro, bro.
The girl came out.
The girl came out.
She's like I have an order forPedro.
I was like I knew it.
I knew y'all was gonna.
I was like y'all was gonna nailthis name.
(27:59):
That's hilarious.
So, for a lot of you guys.
You know I go by a lot ofdifferent names A lot of
different names, but I love thatyou said it.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Stay curious.
I am in this season and a lotof people that know us right now
in this season dang, I gottatake the tag off the bottom of
that cup.
That's really wicked.
Anyways, a lot of people thatknow me in this season have seen
me do a lot of things Right,and that was because for so many
years I put myself in a box anddidn't let myself get out of
(28:27):
that box.
I was afraid to go into anyother lanes.
I was a hairdresser and thatwas it.
I was a hairstylist and I'monly creative when I do this
type of hair.
And in 2020 is when I finallyallowed myself to get out of
that box and I started to becurious and I was allowing
(28:48):
myself to explore these otherways and I learned I actually am
a full creative person Straightcreative.
I am messy in my like way.
I keep my bedroom.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Boy, yeah, you are.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
We don't need to go into it, or not sorry, you're
creative, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, I'm creative.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I'm creative in how I store my clothes.
I'm creative in how I do mymakeup.
I'm creative in so I didballoons for a year and I loved
doing balloons.
I went back to hair.
I have been volunteering insocial media at our church.
I've gotten into graphic stuffin Canva Like I was so curious
about so many things but Ihonestly, the fear literally
(29:24):
kept me in that box for so manyyears.
So some people in the last fewyears are probably like man
Danny Lee's all over the place.
I'm so glad you noticed.
Thank you, that's a growth forme and I'm in all over the place
season of like.
Let's try all these thingsbecause it's exploring a whole
new side of me that I didn'tknow was there.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Exactly and sometimes like that's how you're gonna
stumble upon the nextopportunities, right?
You know TD Jakes used to tellthe story all the time about how
, like people say, hey, how'dyou get into that, how'd you get
into that?
He was like I kind of juststumbled upon it.
Yo, the person that saidcuriosity kills the cat is
someone that got nowhere.
It's somebody that lives infear.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Curiosity kills the cat.
Like what is that?
I'm telling you.
Curiosity opens doors.
Curiosity allows you to stumbleupon something that can
possibly change your life.
If you walked into a basementor walked into attic, if you're
curious, you might findsomething nobody else was using.
Find the opportunity that noone else has tapped into.
(30:27):
The only way you're gonna beable to do that is by being
curious.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, and I've talked to so many business owners.
I talked to one yesterday andshe was like my idea seems so
simple.
I can't believe no one ever didit before and she went for it
and she built a home decorbusiness based off of an idea
that she could not believe wasnot already made.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah.
So I wanna just tap in the verylast one.
I'm gonna say so, of course.
So I said to continue toeducate yourself.
The other one was to expandyour network, and that one right
there that I just said was tostay curious.
And the very last one we'regonna go back to the top was to
embrace change.
Be okay with change If you'regoing into the gym, if you're
(31:12):
trying to change your diets, allthose type of things.
Be curious, educate yourself,get other people around your
circle, but embrace the change.
You'll be surprised, theopportunities that opens up
before y'all.
That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Be that CEO.
Change equals opportunity, andhow you embrace that change, how
you jump into change, how youlook for the change and then how
you implement that change inyourself will determine whether
you're gonna be a CEO, whetheryou're gonna go up to the next
level, whether you're gonnastart the business.
(31:46):
And, honestly, we're justcheerleaders here for you.
We are rooting for you, like,if you wanna start that business
, if you have an idea, go for it.
We're in that season, we'regoing for ideas, we're going for
businesses.
I've got things in the works,two different things that I'm
working on outside of even thisopportunity.
I'm working on those things andwe're just cheerleaders rooting
(32:09):
for you.
Go for it, because every daythat you sit there in doubt and
think of how it couldn't workout, you're missing your dream.
You're missing out on theopportunity that you could be
putting in towards your dream.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yep.
So I wanna encourage you guysto continue to dig, continue to
discover your purpose, continueto chase after God, like so many
different things can change inyour life.
We've been digging, we've beendiscovering.
There are gems that we'repulling out, there are bad roots
that we're pulling out andwe're finding gold.
Let's dig.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Let's dig.
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