November 11, 2024 • 29 mins
What happens when a simple revelation about voting for Trump propels you into the viral spotlight with 2.6 million views on TikTok? We walked through this unexpected journey, not as a political statement but as an expression of faith and values that resonate deeply with our spiritual beliefs. Our story is not about choosing sides in the political arena but about making informed choices amidst the loud and often overwhelming noise of today’s media landscape. Join us in reflecting on how this experience has strengthened our commitment to fostering deeper connections with God, others, and ourselves.
Exploring the complex intersection of political convictions and faith, we discuss the challenges and backlash faced for supporting Trump, particularly due to his acknowledgment of a higher power. With the metaphor "the loudest boos come from the cheapest seats," we highlight the importance of having a strong foundation and staying true to one's beliefs amid criticism. Individual experiences shape our perspectives, with contrasting views on something as simple as a full moon serving as a reminder of our unique pasts. We invite you to consider how your own values and experiences shape your decisions, encouraging a deeper understanding of diverse interpretations.
Focusing on unity within personal beliefs and faith, we draw upon the wisdom of Romans 14, advocating for acceptance of differing beliefs within Christianity. Our viral moment underscores the importance of standing firm in one's convictions while prioritizing personal growth and harmony within the church community. Led by the Holy Spirit, we navigate cultural distractions, inviting others on a journey of spiritual growth and connection. Embrace this opportunity to deepen your relationship with God and those around you, as we continue to share our story and engage with you across social platforms.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up?
Let's Dig.
Crew man.
We have a lot to talk abouttoday.
We went viral on TikTok lastweek.
Viral.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Viral First time.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
First time ever.
All right, we're going to talkabout it.
But first, if you are enjoyingthese podcasts, honestly, we're
just here to help you grow adeeper relationship with God,
others and yourself, and that'swhy we're here Hopefully, that's
why you're here.
So if you have enjoyed theseconversations or you're just
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hit that heart underneath.
Yeah, you see the little heartright there right here on
YouTube.
Little heart Like give a littlethanks, give some love, like
attach some money to it, Like ithelps the world go around like
it's okay to ask for money.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It makes the world go around guys, let's celebrate
with us.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
We are new to the viral world.
Like we got a chance toexperience wow, crazy.
Here's why we went viral.
We went viral because we put itout there that we voted for
trump it's why.
It's why we voted for trump andI know a lot of people jump on
here already thinking,processing, what that looks like
and what that feels like.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Oh, my gosh, wait but don't click off until you hear
our thoughts.
So don't get crazy y'all,because it is.
It's not MAGA city over here,like hold your horses, because I
feel like as soon as we say wevoted Trump.
They're like click.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
We're not MAGA heads or some people are like, oh, oh,
he must be.
Uh, you know what?
I'm not gonna don't go there.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'm not gonna go to the waist like like to the race
card yet please don't somepeople, it's gonna come up, but
don't go there yet we went viralbecause we went on tiktok and
we said that we voted and wevoted for trump.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
We're gonna tell you guys why we voted for trump.
This is not a a politicalconversation.
We're not gonna talk.
We're not going to talk aboutpolitics.
We are not going to talk aboutpolitics.
We're going to share with youour perspective and how we live
in our household and how we'reable to navigate through all the
noise of this world with socialmedia and big time media and
all the stuff that people try totell you, and sometimes you
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hear something and then monthslater you find out it was a lie.
Right, it's just a bunch ofcrap, but viral is big for us.
That's crazy.
2.6 million.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Can I just say, ladies, can y'all just empathize
with me a little bit that Iwent viral with no makeup on and
no eyelashes on.
I was going to the gym.
We had no plan to record thismoment.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, you were going to vote and I was like wait,
wait, wait, don't go votewithout me, like let's go vote.
And then we're both sittingthere, like in a little voting
booth station, I'm talking toDanny Lee asking her questions.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I'm like you're not supposed to talk to me.
I'm like, hey, what?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
are you supposed to put for Prop 30?
And what about Prop 32?
Like, what do we put in here?
She's like shh, stop talking tome.
And then she and I'm like I'mgoing to take a whole picture of
me voting for Trump.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'm like you're not supposed to take a picture in
there.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I got a picture, I posted it too, on.
Instagram If you guys aren'tfollowing us on all the
platforms.
On TikTok TikTok is cool, right.
We just got literally 13,000followers on TikTok in like
three days, which is crazy, 2.6million views on that video
alone, which is wild.
But Instagram hit us up.
You guys already know there'sall the links everywhere.
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You guys already know we gotthe shop.
We got the hat.
I'm actually rocking the hatright now, if you guys don't
even.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh, the new hat hey that's the let's Dig crew.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You already know why we are here.
We are here to help you grow adeeper relationship with God,
others and yourself.
Hit that like button.
Hit that heart button too, okayso let's talk about it let's
dig, let's dig.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So we literally did not have a conversation about
what that morning was going tolook like.
It was kind of like the normalschedule I had things to do, you
had things to do, we were goingabout our business yeah I'm
sitting at the library about tovote and you call me and you're
like wait, you're voting withoutme.
And I was like, yeah, because Ihave to go vote me.
And I was like, yeah, because Ihave to go vote.
And then I have to go to thegym and I have to go wash my
hair because I had anappointment and then I had to
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work.
And you were like, well, wedidn't talk about it, but I'm
coming, and so I had to wait foryou.
So, anyways, I wait for you.
10 minutes, 15 minutes.
You get there, we record a videoand in just so those of you who
have not seen it know webasically said we are voting for
Trump and not because we really, really like him.
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We actually were voting him,even though like we weren't for
him or like we're not like.
That's why I said we're notMAGA country over here, but we
voted for him because he atleast acknowledges who our
savior is and who we serve, andthat there's another candidate
that literally said, oh, you'reat the wrong rally there and and
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even now, right, people are 13000 comments on this tiktok clip
, 14 000 saves, 22 000 resharesand like so many people got
stuff to say.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Some people are just like he's the furthest from God.
Other person is like oh, oneperson was like Kamala goes to
my church, right, like okay,right, what, what role does she
sit in?
How much does she give toplease?
But it's like everybody gotsomething to say, everyone has a
comment.
And one guy on instagram hevoted for trump, but he was like
I want to know what policies oftrump you liked and what
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policies of kamali dinner like.
And everyone's arguing withthis guy on our instagram not us
, but everybody else is comingup.
He finally goes out and sayrelax everyone.
I voted for trump.
And I'm like bro you voted fortrump and you literally just
over here trying to argue in thepot look at the end of the day.
Look we, we, we we're notsitting here saying that Trump
is a Christian.
I don't know his personal life.
I'm not even here saying thatTrump is a full follower of
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Christ, right.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Which people were going ham in the comments of
like he's the furthest from God.
Right, we never said he has apersonal relationship with Jesus
, but the people around him likea like a pastor that we are
very fond of, Pastor JensenFranklin.
Him like a like a pastor thatwe are very fond of, pastor
Jensen Franklin, he's literallyright next to him all the time
praying for him.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I like how one person was like he's a criminal.
I'm like so was the criminal onthe cross next to Jesus when he
was crucified?
Like, relax everybody, here'swhat it is for us.
There are some things that goesagainst our values, our
personal moral things, like whenit comes to being pro-life.
There are certain things whenit comes to genders, right.
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When it comes to, you know,privacy of the household with
our kids.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Right, like in government and the schools and
the school system right.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And if my son decides to say he wants to be a girl,
and the school's out theresaying, like, don't tell your
parents.
Like you know, there are justcertain things where someone say
, well, if you vote for trump,you're a racist.
That's the stupidest thing I'veever heard.
So you're telling me I shouldvote for kamala because she's
not a a racist.
You're sitting here telling meif I vote for her, will racism
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go away.
It will not ever go away.
Racism will never go away.
It is what it is.
It's just for me.
I'm just looking at our countryright now and the state that is
in.
I'm just like I believe thatTrump is the best person that's
needed right now for thiscountry.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But this ain't about politics.
Also, just to throw it in realquick because everyone's like,
oh, trump hates women.
Yeah, we said we're not goingto talk about politics, we're
still talking about it.
But everybody said Trump hateswomen and he just put the first
woman to be chief of staff inthe White House.
Yeah, that's huge.
Like all the feminists whichI'm not a feminist, but all the
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feminists are like he's awomanizer, he's a hater, he did
do some gross stuff and I'm notnegating any of the things that
women have accused him of andit's probably true and like
that's terrible and I wouldnever like minimize that.
But, bro, that's a huge thingfor a woman to be a chief of
staff in the White House, that'sa big deal.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
And you know we said in this post that went viral
that we're personally not fansof Trump.
You know, once in a while Ilike him, and here's why.
Here's why I like Trump becausehe is honest and he's real and
it gets him in trouble, but he'shonest.
He's not hiding anything.
All the other politics I don'ttrust people who always got
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something to hide, like you know, he's honest and I'm like, okay
, well, okay, he did some crazystuff.
I'm not sitting here sayingthat I support all the crazy
stuff that he did.
I'm not saying any of that.
What I'm saying is let thefirst without sin cast the first
stone, right this any of that.
What I'm saying is let the first, without sin, cast the first
stone.
This is Jesus.
Jesus said that right, peoplecame and tried to accuse this
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woman, that this woman wascaught doing this, she was
caught doing this, she wascaught doing all this.
And Jesus basically saying okay, I hear you, and the law says
we should treat this person thisway.
And Jesus saying let the firstperson who's never did anything
right and then this is meparaphrasing anything like this
woman throw the first stone.
So all the people that aresaying all this stuff, talking
trash about him and just likehe's this, I'm like, at the end
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of the day, man like God, hasappointed him to be the leader
of this country, right, and wegot to respect him.
And instead of coming againsthim, we should be praying for
Trump.
He's our president.
Instead of coming against him,we should be praying for Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
He's our president.
I do want to say I wish thatChristians who did vote for
Trump were leading up to theelection, and then how much
tension comes up afterwards,like I had one client in my
chair um at the salon and shewas saying that she was very
disappointed and that she washeartbroken and that she had
(09:21):
more hopes probably more thanshould be have been put on an
election, to be honest.
But she did have a lot of hopesfor a woman president and I
literally all I could say was Ihear you, I hear you and it does
like.
That is disappointing, that issad and I just I hate that.
There is no reason whyrelationships, friendships,
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should ever be impacted bypolitics.
And even vice president Vancehe said that he was like you
know, please don't ruinrelationships over politics that
change every four years.
There's no reason for it.
You I actually love the some ofthe comments that thought that
you were only voting for Trumpbecause you're married to a
(10:05):
white woman, and I was like theirony is we've had years where
we voted differently.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So many people got comments.
I put a comment on someone'sInstagram the other day.
Carl Lentz was talking aboutsomething and he was just saying
how everybody everybody hassomething to say.
He was just saying howeverybody has something to say
and I quoted something that oneof my old mentors used to say
that the loudest boos come fromthe cheapest seats in the house.
Basically saying, if you go toa game, right, the people who
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are probably talking the mosttrash are the ones who probably
paid the least for their ticket.
They're up in the nosebleed,they're talking trash and they
even talk trash about their team.
But if you look at those thathave courtside and the nosebleed
, they're talking trash and theyeven talk trash about their
team.
Yeah, but if you look at thosethat have courtside, those that
are on the field, those that areinvested, even if their team
lost, they're still clappingthem on A good game.
They're still cheering on agood game, lebron you killed it
yeah.
Right, because they're investedand like for us through
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decision-making, with so muchnoise in this world.
It's crazy.
Everyone has, especially withrelativism and individualism,
where everyone has their owntruth and what they believe to
be right for them.
Eat that.
And people jumping in your DMsand your comments and saying all
this stuff bro, thousands andthousands of comments that we
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got just because we said wevoted for Trump because he
acknowledges who our king is.
He acknowledges that there is aking above all kings.
There are kings all over thisworld, right, presidents,
they're kings of of this country, right, right.
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But when there's a presidentthat acknowledges that there's a
King even greater than him, tome that tells me there is some
sense of conviction.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
There was some sense of of greater respect and
reverence.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Right, and so to me, that was just important to me,
that was just valuable to me,and especially when a pastor,
like, has access to a presidentto be able to lay hands on him
and say, can we pray for you?
And he accepts it, he's with it, he likes it, he has pastors
that are on his council, on hisboard, like to me, I'm like,
okay, I like that, you know, butat the end of the day, we made
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a decision.
We made a decision.
It's going to change in fouryears.
But the fact that so manypeople have stuff to say, like I
really just want to encouragepeople out there that are
listening to this, like youreally have to determine your
foundation and discover how deepyour roots are, because if your
roots aren't deep, like you'llbe like jesus said it, or the
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bible said, I think paul wastalking about, you'll be like a
ship without a sail.
Yeah, wherever the wind blows,you'll go left and right.
Like could you imagine if we'rereading through these comments?
I mean some people, one personwas even coming for our marriage
, bro, they're talking aboutlike demon talking about you're
a demon on my shoulder, yep I'mwhat one person was saying like
oh wait till your.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Your marriage is no longer legal right, wait till
they outlaw your marriage, browhat is you talking about?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
and I know that's not english for the people that are
going to come from me, sothat's not English.
One person jumped at ourcomments the other day Cause I
said, hey, if you want to godeep in your relationships,
learn to ask better questions.
Someone was like it's not axwith an AX, it's ask.
And I'm like, okay, did youstill take the advice?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Actually your your best question, rebuttal was and
how many languages do you speak?
And they didn't respond.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
They never responded.
I'm like, okay, english was notmy first language, but when
people live in small bubbles,small boxes, where their world
is only from the end of thehighway to the other end of the
highway which it's a two milehighway then they just realize
that they think people, everyonespeaks English and they have
small worlds.
And so for us, we decided tosay, man, like we really need to
determine, like, what's ourfoundation?
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What do we believe?
What are some things that arenon-negotiables?
Non-negotiables Is Trump great?
Is he the best person?
I don't know, I don't know himpersonally, and there's some
stuff that he may never change,never affect, but there's
certain things that in my heart,I feel, in my conscious, I
could not sleep with if I votedfor Kamala.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And I think that is the pivotal moment for
Christians and non-Christians,but specifically for Christians
who live a life following Jesus,following the Bible that there
are some things in the Biblethat are verbatim.
And there are some things in theBible that are verbatim and
there are some things in theBible that are not.
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And we were having thisconversation about how, for some
people, it may seem right andfor some people it may seem
wrong.
So like, for instance, when itwas a full moon one night, me
and you and the kids were alllike, oh my gosh, look how
beautiful this moon is.
This moon is so beautiful LikeGod's creation, like it's so
cool what he made, flip, youknow.
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24 hours later, we were atchurch and I was speaking with a
young lady and she said, oh, Isaw that moon and I started
praying and rebuking because shehad been involved in witchcraft
before she came to the Lord andher perspective on both of them
.
It was just so interesting tosee that how your life
influences your viewpoint is howyou approach things.
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So when it comes to politics,when it comes to decision-making
, when it comes to lifedecisions, your experience of
life will influence it.
If there's not, like the Bibledoesn't tell you how to look at
the moon.
Yeah, so both were right.
Our family was right in how welooked at the moon, that lady
was right and how she looked atthe moon to pray in spiritual
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warfare because of what she'dexperienced.
And I feel like with politicsthat's where it gets really,
really messy of I talked toyesterday.
I have a friend and she is fromEl Salvador.
I spoke with her and we talkedabout her viewpoints.
Her viewpoint is obviouslygoing to be different than mine
from the cornfields of Indianaand I was very interested in
hearing like wait, can youexplain to me why that matters
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to you so much?
Can you explain to me how thatimpacts you?
Can you explain to me how thatimpacts your family or your
parents?
I learned so much just byasking questions and learning.
But a lot of times in the bodyof Christ, in church, we think
if you're not on my side, thenwe're not right, You're wrong
and you're going to hell.
And some of the things, some ofthe topics.
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That is not true.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yep, and ultimately, the Bible tells us to respect
and honor those that have beenplaced in authority period,
right period, whether you agreewith their decisions, they will
have an account with God.
They will have to answer to God.
I was reading in Romans 14.
I think we should talk aboutRomans 14 in a little bit,
because Paul talks about thatcriticizing those in the faith
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about decisions, about certainthings like whether it's better
to live for God or die for God,whether you should eat meat or
vegetables, which one is greater.
It's little things that arehappening in the church, where
people literally just don't knowtheir foundation.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
They don't know what they believe fully, or they
quote someone else and theydon't go and do their own
research and find out, or theysee like, ok, what does the
Bible have to say about this?
We were talking about thisother day and you were asking me
, like, what are some thingsthat you can do to further be
able to, like, counsel people?
Yeah, right, and I said firstthing, read your bible more.
Yeah, because every answer thatwe need is actually in the
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bible.
Because you said earlier, thebible doesn't teach us how to
look at the moon.
Well, it does.
Just in the beginning it saidGod created it.
Well, that's true, andeverything that he created was
good.
But we live in a fallen worldwhere satan takes things that
were good, that was good, hemanipulates it.
He's a counterfeit right andtries to make it seem like it's
good but still evil.
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First corinthians 13.
We read about that in our lastconversation, about those that
have a weaker conscious that ifthey think something was, was,
um, committed or sacrificed to afalse idol right, then in their
conscience they can't partakein it because they believe that
that idol is real.
And Paul is saying inCorinthians that we all know
that it's not real, but for usto have superior knowledge of
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God.
We know that it's fake and so Imight be able to do something
and I know that man, that idol,it's not real, it's dead, but
there are demons behind it,right, right, so you still need
to think and decide for yourself.
That's what paul is talkingabout, and I think just
christians are so immature justreading today in hebrews, where
he's talking about how, like,like man, christians are still.
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How long you've been saved, howlong you've been believing and
you're still on meat.
We are still on milk.
Yeah, we can't even go intodeeper things.
We can't even go into meatbecause, like, people don't even
know what they're talking about.
Some dude wrote on our on onour post, and he's because we
said that, look, god has placedtrump in authority, right?
Somebody was like, okay, didgod place satan over hell?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
and I I'm like yes, Literally, I was like that's
verbatim.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'm like yo, bro.
I can't even talk to you rightnow because you're biblically
illiterate.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You don't know the very basis of the knowledge of
how Lucifer got to become Satan.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Bro, the dude was trying to be slick.
He's like okay, did God putSatan over hell?
Yeah, buddy, he did.
And with a, read your bible.
And when you read your bible,come back and talk to me.
That's so crazy and so there'speople that I was responding
back to them with scripture, somany of us responding to them
scripture.
Some people weren't evenjumping in our comments because
they wanted to understand, theyjust literally wanted to debate
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and the bible talks about that.
No, we're not going to be.
We're not going to partake infoolish conversation, arguments,
right Debates, because we'renot even, you're not even trying
to find the truth Like, youdon't even want to know what's
true, you just want to be right,right.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I think you're right, though in the sense of a lot of
people, a lot of Christians Ishould say sorry, a lot of
Christians do not know how toread their Bible to
comprehension and to understand.
You literally said that we hadthat conversation of I was
saying, like you know, I justwant to know more things, to
tell more people Like I havewomen and young ladies and girls
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calling me, asking me questions, and sometimes I know the
answer, sometimes I have theidea, but I don't have the
scripture and like it can likeit can feel very overwhelming
and it can feel like I'mincompetent.
And you told me you're like youjust need to read your Bible
more.
That week I was reading um.
I got a phone call at like eight, 30 at night, um, from a friend
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.
She was asking me a question ofthey accidentally bought
something that had likeastrology patterns on it for
their baby, and it was byaccident, wasn't on purpose, and
she was asking me what's myopinion about them?
And I, long story short, I said, like those, those patterns
don't have any power over mychild.
Like I stand covered in theblood of Jesus for me and my
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family.
And um, but when I got off thephone.
I told you I was like man.
I know it's there, I just don'tknow what it is.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You were like read yeah, Cause you said you felt so
passionate about it.
You just didn't have words.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I didn't have words.
The next morning I'm reading inHebrews and it said and to you
I have given all authority overall things.
And I sent that scripture rightaway.
And I was like there it is.
That was the scripture I waslooking for last night.
I didn't know I was looking forit, but that was the Bible,
cause everything that we walkout, everything that we make a
decision for life, it is foundedin the word of God.
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It is our anchor.
Because this world changes somuch society and culture,
they'll tell you one thing oneway, like there's churches that
will tell me women can't wearpants.
But if I go back to the word ofGod, I can find a scripture
that says that that is not goingto send me to hell and make me
less anointed.
Like every decision that wemake, it can be founded in the
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word of God, no matter howculture changes and what they
tell us.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yep.
So Romans, chapter 14,.
Accept other believers who areweak in faith and don't argue
with them about what they thinkis right or wrong.
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For instance, one personbelieves it's all right, so good
.
Those who don't eat certainfoods must not condemn those who
do, for God has accepted them.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
So good.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Who are you to condemn someone else's servant
Right?
Because I don't serve you, Iserve the Lord.
But through serving the Lord Iserve you.
That's what it is.
But God, he's our master Right,so he's ultimately who we serve
.
He says here.
He says their own master willjudge whether they stand or fall
and with the Lord's help, theywill stand and receive his
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approval.
In the same way, some think oneday is more holy than another
day, while others think everyday is alike.
You should each be fullyconvinced that whichever day you
choose is acceptable, bro.
So if you think one day is holy, other one thinks that every
day is holy.
Both y'all right with the Lord.
But the Lord would determinewhether you stand or fall.
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Those who worship the Lord on aspecial day do it to honor him.
Those who eat any kind of fooddo do so to honor the Lord,
since they give thanks to Godbefore eating.
And those who refuse to eatcertain foods also want to
please.
The Lord will give thanks toGod, for we don't live for
ourselves or die for ourselves.
If we live, it's an honor tothe Lord, and if we die, it's an
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honor to the Lord.
So whether we live or die.
We belong to the Lord.
Down in verse 12, it says yes,each of us will give a personal
account to God.
So let's stop condemning eachother.
Decide instead to live in sucha way that you will not cause
another believer to stumble orfall.
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So we are responsible fortripping other people up.
I don't know if you guysnoticed, but every single time
we record, we pray that Godgives us words.
We pray for the Holy Spirit toconvince to to um, I'm so hungry
right now I haven't eaten.
We pray that the Holy Spiritwill will convict us.
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I was like pray, the Holy Spiritwill convince us.
Pray that the Holy Spirit willconvict us that every single
word that comes out of our mouthwill be fruitful and bring
value to people.
We've said this from the firsttime.
We launched, relaunched thispodcast that we did not do this
to go viral.
We do this to give value period.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
And we said that before we went viral.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
We said that before we went viral, which is wild.
So it says I know and I'mconvinced on the authority of
the Lord Jesus that no food inand of itself is wrong to eat.
But if someone believes it iswrong, then for that person it
is wrong Crazy.
So if you feel in your heart,between you and God, that you're
doing something that's wrong,I'm here to tell you it's wrong.
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But it's not your job to try tocondemn me or vice versa,
because we're not following yourown personal convictions.
Christians literally need togrow up, it says.
And if another believer isdistressed by what you eat, you
are not acting in love.
If you eat it, don't let youreating ruin someone for whom
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Christ died for.
So verse 19 says so.
Then let us aim for harmony inthe church and try to build each
other up.
It breaks my heart that so manypeople were coming for us on
TikTok so many.
So many of them were churchpeople, but I will say I'd say
90% of them were all for it.
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I think most people were for itbecause we stood up and we
actually said something.
Too many people are cowards andthey don't want to talk about
it.
They actually talk about itprivately, but someone is
counting on you to talk about itpublicly and I think that's why
we went TikTok.
I think that's why we wentviral on TikTok and also TikTok
and algorithms.
Tiktok's probably trying tostir something up Say like let's
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let this black guy and thiswhite girl, go talk about Trump.
And everyone loved the 2.6million views.
That's what I think you know,but you know me I like my little
conspiracies.
What I'm saying is, ultimately,people just need to decide for
themselves what's right betweenthem and God.
But you cannot determine yourtruth.
You need to sit down with theLord, you need to seek the Holy
Spirit.
That the Holy Spirit willreveal to you the truth and let
that be your foundation.
We are living in fallen timesright now.
Man and you got to determinewhat's right from wrong and you
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can't not be shaken.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I love the way that that verse ended up and let the
church strive for harmony.
I have been in church my wholelife and I have seen so many
people that, in the name ofholiness and righteousness, they
condemn other people, and itbreaks my heart.
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And it's literally what thatwhole chapter was talking about
of if God has called you tosomething, that does not mean it
is your job to go and callsomebody else out because
they're not living up to thestandard that God actually
called you to live up to.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Pray for them and ask that the Lord that they serve
will reveal himself to them.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And it's the Holy Spirit's job to convict, not
yours.
You are there to lift, you arethere to encourage, you are
there to pray for them and to bea place that if she, if that
person were to start convictingor asking questions, then you
can more than happy answer andshow what God has revealed to
you.
But man is like and let thechurch strive in harmony, like I
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would love to see that be doneso much more in church
communities and families.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So we're going to start here.
Man, love you guys.
You guys already know why we'rehere.
We're here to help you grow adeeper relationship with God,
others and yourself.
This is how we navigate makingdecisions through a noisy world,
a noisy culture.
We live by the Holy Spirit andwe are led by the Holy Spirit.
If you don't know who Jesus is,I want to give you an
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invitation right now.
Accept it to your life.
Just say Jesus thank you forcoming for me, thank you for
dying for me.
I know that I'm a sinner and Iknow I can't save myself.
That's why you're here.
I ask for you to come into myheart.
Send the Holy Spirit to me tomanifest in me.
We pray for good fruits rightnow.
Moving forward, we willcompletely commit our lives to
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Crew man.
We have a lot to talk abouttoday.
We went viral on TikTok lastweek.
Viral.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Viral First time.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
First time ever.
All right, we're going to talkabout it.
But first, if you are enjoyingthese podcasts, honestly, we're
just here to help you grow adeeper relationship with God,
others and yourself, and that'swhy we're here Hopefully, that's
why you're here.
So if you have enjoyed theseconversations or you're just
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hit that heart underneath.
Yeah, you see the little heartright there right here on
YouTube.
Little heart Like give a littlethanks, give some love, like
attach some money to it, Like ithelps the world go around like
it's okay to ask for money.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It makes the world go around guys, let's celebrate
with us.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
We are new to the viral world.
Like we got a chance toexperience wow, crazy.
Here's why we went viral.
We went viral because we put itout there that we voted for
trump it's why.
It's why we voted for trump andI know a lot of people jump on
here already thinking,processing, what that looks like
and what that feels like.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Oh, my gosh, wait but don't click off until you hear
our thoughts.
So don't get crazy y'all,because it is.
It's not MAGA city over here,like hold your horses, because I
feel like as soon as we say wevoted Trump.
They're like click.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
We're not MAGA heads or some people are like, oh, oh,
he must be.
Uh, you know what?
I'm not gonna don't go there.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'm not gonna go to the waist like like to the race
card yet please don't somepeople, it's gonna come up, but
don't go there yet we went viralbecause we went on tiktok and
we said that we voted and wevoted for trump.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
We're gonna tell you guys why we voted for trump.
This is not a a politicalconversation.
We're not gonna talk.
We're not going to talk aboutpolitics.
We are not going to talk aboutpolitics.
We're going to share with youour perspective and how we live
in our household and how we'reable to navigate through all the
noise of this world with socialmedia and big time media and
all the stuff that people try totell you, and sometimes you
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hear something and then monthslater you find out it was a lie.
Right, it's just a bunch ofcrap, but viral is big for us.
That's crazy.
2.6 million.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Can I just say, ladies, can y'all just empathize
with me a little bit that Iwent viral with no makeup on and
no eyelashes on.
I was going to the gym.
We had no plan to record thismoment.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, you were going to vote and I was like wait,
wait, wait, don't go votewithout me, like let's go vote.
And then we're both sittingthere, like in a little voting
booth station, I'm talking toDanny Lee asking her questions.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I'm like you're not supposed to talk to me.
I'm like, hey, what?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
are you supposed to put for Prop 30?
And what about Prop 32?
Like, what do we put in here?
She's like shh, stop talking tome.
And then she and I'm like I'mgoing to take a whole picture of
me voting for Trump.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'm like you're not supposed to take a picture in
there.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I got a picture, I posted it too, on.
Instagram If you guys aren'tfollowing us on all the
platforms.
On TikTok TikTok is cool, right.
We just got literally 13,000followers on TikTok in like
three days, which is crazy, 2.6million views on that video
alone, which is wild.
But Instagram hit us up.
You guys already know there'sall the links everywhere.
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You guys already know we gotthe shop.
We got the hat.
I'm actually rocking the hatright now, if you guys don't
even.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh, the new hat hey that's the let's Dig crew.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You already know why we are here.
We are here to help you grow adeeper relationship with God,
others and yourself.
Hit that like button.
Hit that heart button too, okayso let's talk about it let's
dig, let's dig.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So we literally did not have a conversation about
what that morning was going tolook like.
It was kind of like the normalschedule I had things to do, you
had things to do, we were goingabout our business yeah I'm
sitting at the library about tovote and you call me and you're
like wait, you're voting withoutme.
And I was like, yeah, because Ihave to go vote me.
And I was like, yeah, because Ihave to go vote.
And then I have to go to thegym and I have to go wash my
hair because I had anappointment and then I had to
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work.
And you were like, well, wedidn't talk about it, but I'm
coming, and so I had to wait foryou.
So, anyways, I wait for you.
10 minutes, 15 minutes.
You get there, we record a videoand in just so those of you who
have not seen it know webasically said we are voting for
Trump and not because we really, really like him.
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We actually were voting him,even though like we weren't for
him or like we're not like.
That's why I said we're notMAGA country over here, but we
voted for him because he atleast acknowledges who our
savior is and who we serve, andthat there's another candidate
that literally said, oh, you'reat the wrong rally there and and
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even now, right, people are 13000 comments on this tiktok clip
, 14 000 saves, 22 000 resharesand like so many people got
stuff to say.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Some people are just like he's the furthest from God.
Other person is like oh, oneperson was like Kamala goes to
my church, right, like okay,right, what, what role does she
sit in?
How much does she give toplease?
But it's like everybody gotsomething to say, everyone has a
comment.
And one guy on instagram hevoted for trump, but he was like
I want to know what policies oftrump you liked and what
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policies of kamali dinner like.
And everyone's arguing withthis guy on our instagram not us
, but everybody else is comingup.
He finally goes out and sayrelax everyone.
I voted for trump.
And I'm like bro you voted fortrump and you literally just
over here trying to argue in thepot look at the end of the day.
Look we, we, we we're notsitting here saying that Trump
is a Christian.
I don't know his personal life.
I'm not even here saying thatTrump is a full follower of
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Christ, right.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Which people were going ham in the comments of
like he's the furthest from God.
Right, we never said he has apersonal relationship with Jesus
, but the people around him likea like a pastor that we are
very fond of, Pastor JensenFranklin.
Him like a like a pastor thatwe are very fond of, pastor
Jensen Franklin, he's literallyright next to him all the time
praying for him.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I like how one person was like he's a criminal.
I'm like so was the criminal onthe cross next to Jesus when he
was crucified?
Like, relax everybody, here'swhat it is for us.
There are some things that goesagainst our values, our
personal moral things, like whenit comes to being pro-life.
There are certain things whenit comes to genders, right.
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When it comes to, you know,privacy of the household with
our kids.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Right, like in government and the schools and
the school system right.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And if my son decides to say he wants to be a girl,
and the school's out theresaying, like, don't tell your
parents.
Like you know, there are justcertain things where someone say
, well, if you vote for trump,you're a racist.
That's the stupidest thing I'veever heard.
So you're telling me I shouldvote for kamala because she's
not a a racist.
You're sitting here telling meif I vote for her, will racism
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go away.
It will not ever go away.
Racism will never go away.
It is what it is.
It's just for me.
I'm just looking at our countryright now and the state that is
in.
I'm just like I believe thatTrump is the best person that's
needed right now for thiscountry.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But this ain't about politics.
Also, just to throw it in realquick because everyone's like,
oh, trump hates women.
Yeah, we said we're not goingto talk about politics, we're
still talking about it.
But everybody said Trump hateswomen and he just put the first
woman to be chief of staff inthe White House.
Yeah, that's huge.
Like all the feminists whichI'm not a feminist, but all the
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feminists are like he's awomanizer, he's a hater, he did
do some gross stuff and I'm notnegating any of the things that
women have accused him of andit's probably true and like
that's terrible and I wouldnever like minimize that.
But, bro, that's a huge thingfor a woman to be a chief of
staff in the White House, that'sa big deal.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
And you know we said in this post that went viral
that we're personally not fansof Trump.
You know, once in a while Ilike him, and here's why.
Here's why I like Trump becausehe is honest and he's real and
it gets him in trouble, but he'shonest.
He's not hiding anything.
All the other politics I don'ttrust people who always got
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something to hide, like you know, he's honest and I'm like, okay
, well, okay, he did some crazystuff.
I'm not sitting here sayingthat I support all the crazy
stuff that he did.
I'm not saying any of that.
What I'm saying is let thefirst without sin cast the first
stone, right this any of that.
What I'm saying is let the first, without sin, cast the first
stone.
This is Jesus.
Jesus said that right, peoplecame and tried to accuse this
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woman, that this woman wascaught doing this, she was
caught doing this, she wascaught doing all this.
And Jesus basically saying okay, I hear you, and the law says
we should treat this person thisway.
And Jesus saying let the firstperson who's never did anything
right and then this is meparaphrasing anything like this
woman throw the first stone.
So all the people that aresaying all this stuff, talking
trash about him and just likehe's this, I'm like, at the end
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of the day, man like God, hasappointed him to be the leader
of this country, right, and wegot to respect him.
And instead of coming againsthim, we should be praying for
Trump.
He's our president.
Instead of coming against him,we should be praying for Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
He's our president.
I do want to say I wish thatChristians who did vote for
Trump were leading up to theelection, and then how much
tension comes up afterwards,like I had one client in my
chair um at the salon and shewas saying that she was very
disappointed and that she washeartbroken and that she had
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more hopes probably more thanshould be have been put on an
election, to be honest.
But she did have a lot of hopesfor a woman president and I
literally all I could say was Ihear you, I hear you and it does
like.
That is disappointing, that issad and I just I hate that.
There is no reason whyrelationships, friendships,
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should ever be impacted bypolitics.
And even vice president Vancehe said that he was like you
know, please don't ruinrelationships over politics that
change every four years.
There's no reason for it.
You I actually love the some ofthe comments that thought that
you were only voting for Trumpbecause you're married to a
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white woman, and I was like theirony is we've had years where
we voted differently.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So many people got comments.
I put a comment on someone'sInstagram the other day.
Carl Lentz was talking aboutsomething and he was just saying
how everybody everybody hassomething to say.
He was just saying howeverybody has something to say
and I quoted something that oneof my old mentors used to say
that the loudest boos come fromthe cheapest seats in the house.
Basically saying, if you go toa game, right, the people who
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are probably talking the mosttrash are the ones who probably
paid the least for their ticket.
They're up in the nosebleed,they're talking trash and they
even talk trash about their team.
But if you look at those thathave courtside and the nosebleed
, they're talking trash and theyeven talk trash about their
team.
Yeah, but if you look at thosethat have courtside, those that
are on the field, those that areinvested, even if their team
lost, they're still clappingthem on A good game.
They're still cheering on agood game, lebron you killed it
yeah.
Right, because they're investedand like for us through
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decision-making, with so muchnoise in this world.
It's crazy.
Everyone has, especially withrelativism and individualism,
where everyone has their owntruth and what they believe to
be right for them.
Eat that.
And people jumping in your DMsand your comments and saying all
this stuff bro, thousands andthousands of comments that we
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got just because we said wevoted for Trump because he
acknowledges who our king is.
He acknowledges that there is aking above all kings.
There are kings all over thisworld, right, presidents,
they're kings of of this country, right, right.
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But when there's a presidentthat acknowledges that there's a
King even greater than him, tome that tells me there is some
sense of conviction.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
There was some sense of of greater respect and
reverence.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Right, and so to me, that was just important to me,
that was just valuable to me,and especially when a pastor,
like, has access to a presidentto be able to lay hands on him
and say, can we pray for you?
And he accepts it, he's with it, he likes it, he has pastors
that are on his council, on hisboard, like to me, I'm like,
okay, I like that, you know, butat the end of the day, we made
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a decision.
We made a decision.
It's going to change in fouryears.
But the fact that so manypeople have stuff to say, like I
really just want to encouragepeople out there that are
listening to this, like youreally have to determine your
foundation and discover how deepyour roots are, because if your
roots aren't deep, like you'llbe like jesus said it, or the
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bible said, I think paul wastalking about, you'll be like a
ship without a sail.
Yeah, wherever the wind blows,you'll go left and right.
Like could you imagine if we'rereading through these comments?
I mean some people, one personwas even coming for our marriage
, bro, they're talking aboutlike demon talking about you're
a demon on my shoulder, yep I'mwhat one person was saying like
oh wait till your.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Your marriage is no longer legal right, wait till
they outlaw your marriage, browhat is you talking about?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
and I know that's not english for the people that are
going to come from me, sothat's not English.
One person jumped at ourcomments the other day Cause I
said, hey, if you want to godeep in your relationships,
learn to ask better questions.
Someone was like it's not axwith an AX, it's ask.
And I'm like, okay, did youstill take the advice?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Actually your your best question, rebuttal was and
how many languages do you speak?
And they didn't respond.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
They never responded.
I'm like, okay, english was notmy first language, but when
people live in small bubbles,small boxes, where their world
is only from the end of thehighway to the other end of the
highway which it's a two milehighway then they just realize
that they think people, everyonespeaks English and they have
small worlds.
And so for us, we decided tosay, man, like we really need to
determine, like, what's ourfoundation?
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What do we believe?
What are some things that arenon-negotiables?
Non-negotiables Is Trump great?
Is he the best person?
I don't know, I don't know himpersonally, and there's some
stuff that he may never change,never affect, but there's
certain things that in my heart,I feel, in my conscious, I
could not sleep with if I votedfor Kamala.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And I think that is the pivotal moment for
Christians and non-Christians,but specifically for Christians
who live a life following Jesus,following the Bible that there
are some things in the Biblethat are verbatim.
And there are some things in theBible that are verbatim and
there are some things in theBible that are not.
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And we were having thisconversation about how, for some
people, it may seem right andfor some people it may seem
wrong.
So like, for instance, when itwas a full moon one night, me
and you and the kids were alllike, oh my gosh, look how
beautiful this moon is.
This moon is so beautiful LikeGod's creation, like it's so
cool what he made, flip, youknow.
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24 hours later, we were atchurch and I was speaking with a
young lady and she said, oh, Isaw that moon and I started
praying and rebuking because shehad been involved in witchcraft
before she came to the Lord andher perspective on both of them
.
It was just so interesting tosee that how your life
influences your viewpoint is howyou approach things.
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So when it comes to politics,when it comes to decision-making
, when it comes to lifedecisions, your experience of
life will influence it.
If there's not, like the Bibledoesn't tell you how to look at
the moon.
Yeah, so both were right.
Our family was right in how welooked at the moon, that lady
was right and how she looked atthe moon to pray in spiritual
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warfare because of what she'dexperienced.
And I feel like with politicsthat's where it gets really,
really messy of I talked toyesterday.
I have a friend and she is fromEl Salvador.
I spoke with her and we talkedabout her viewpoints.
Her viewpoint is obviouslygoing to be different than mine
from the cornfields of Indianaand I was very interested in
hearing like wait, can youexplain to me why that matters
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to you so much?
Can you explain to me how thatimpacts you?
Can you explain to me how thatimpacts your family or your
parents?
I learned so much just byasking questions and learning.
But a lot of times in the bodyof Christ, in church, we think
if you're not on my side, thenwe're not right, You're wrong
and you're going to hell.
And some of the things, some ofthe topics.
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That is not true.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yep, and ultimately, the Bible tells us to respect
and honor those that have beenplaced in authority period,
right period, whether you agreewith their decisions, they will
have an account with God.
They will have to answer to God.
I was reading in Romans 14.
I think we should talk aboutRomans 14 in a little bit,
because Paul talks about thatcriticizing those in the faith
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about decisions, about certainthings like whether it's better
to live for God or die for God,whether you should eat meat or
vegetables, which one is greater.
It's little things that arehappening in the church, where
people literally just don't knowtheir foundation.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
They don't know what they believe fully, or they
quote someone else and theydon't go and do their own
research and find out, or theysee like, ok, what does the
Bible have to say about this?
We were talking about thisother day and you were asking me
, like, what are some thingsthat you can do to further be
able to, like, counsel people?
Yeah, right, and I said firstthing, read your bible more.
Yeah, because every answer thatwe need is actually in the
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bible.
Because you said earlier, thebible doesn't teach us how to
look at the moon.
Well, it does.
Just in the beginning it saidGod created it.
Well, that's true, andeverything that he created was
good.
But we live in a fallen worldwhere satan takes things that
were good, that was good, hemanipulates it.
He's a counterfeit right andtries to make it seem like it's
good but still evil.
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First corinthians 13.
We read about that in our lastconversation, about those that
have a weaker conscious that ifthey think something was, was,
um, committed or sacrificed to afalse idol right, then in their
conscience they can't partakein it because they believe that
that idol is real.
And Paul is saying inCorinthians that we all know
that it's not real, but for usto have superior knowledge of
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God.
We know that it's fake and so Imight be able to do something
and I know that man, that idol,it's not real, it's dead, but
there are demons behind it,right, right, so you still need
to think and decide for yourself.
That's what paul is talkingabout, and I think just
christians are so immature justreading today in hebrews, where
he's talking about how, like,like man, christians are still.
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How long you've been saved, howlong you've been believing and
you're still on meat.
We are still on milk.
Yeah, we can't even go intodeeper things.
We can't even go into meatbecause, like, people don't even
know what they're talking about.
Some dude wrote on our on onour post, and he's because we
said that, look, god has placedtrump in authority, right?
Somebody was like, okay, didgod place satan over hell?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
and I I'm like yes, Literally, I was like that's
verbatim.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'm like yo, bro.
I can't even talk to you rightnow because you're biblically
illiterate.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You don't know the very basis of the knowledge of
how Lucifer got to become Satan.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Bro, the dude was trying to be slick.
He's like okay, did God putSatan over hell?
Yeah, buddy, he did.
And with a, read your bible.
And when you read your bible,come back and talk to me.
That's so crazy and so there'speople that I was responding
back to them with scripture, somany of us responding to them
scripture.
Some people weren't evenjumping in our comments because
they wanted to understand, theyjust literally wanted to debate
(19:25):
and the bible talks about that.
No, we're not going to be.
We're not going to partake infoolish conversation, arguments,
right Debates, because we'renot even, you're not even trying
to find the truth Like, youdon't even want to know what's
true, you just want to be right,right.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I think you're right, though in the sense of a lot of
people, a lot of Christians Ishould say sorry, a lot of
Christians do not know how toread their Bible to
comprehension and to understand.
You literally said that we hadthat conversation of I was
saying, like you know, I justwant to know more things, to
tell more people Like I havewomen and young ladies and girls
(19:59):
calling me, asking me questions, and sometimes I know the
answer, sometimes I have theidea, but I don't have the
scripture and like it can likeit can feel very overwhelming
and it can feel like I'mincompetent.
And you told me you're like youjust need to read your Bible
more.
That week I was reading um.
I got a phone call at like eight, 30 at night, um, from a friend
(20:19):
.
She was asking me a question ofthey accidentally bought
something that had likeastrology patterns on it for
their baby, and it was byaccident, wasn't on purpose, and
she was asking me what's myopinion about them?
And I, long story short, I said, like those, those patterns
don't have any power over mychild.
Like I stand covered in theblood of Jesus for me and my
(20:42):
family.
And um, but when I got off thephone.
I told you I was like man.
I know it's there, I just don'tknow what it is.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You were like read yeah, Cause you said you felt so
passionate about it.
You just didn't have words.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I didn't have words.
The next morning I'm reading inHebrews and it said and to you
I have given all authority overall things.
And I sent that scripture rightaway.
And I was like there it is.
That was the scripture I waslooking for last night.
I didn't know I was looking forit, but that was the Bible,
cause everything that we walkout, everything that we make a
decision for life, it is foundedin the word of God.
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It is our anchor.
Because this world changes somuch society and culture,
they'll tell you one thing oneway, like there's churches that
will tell me women can't wearpants.
But if I go back to the word ofGod, I can find a scripture
that says that that is not goingto send me to hell and make me
less anointed.
Like every decision that wemake, it can be founded in the
(21:36):
word of God, no matter howculture changes and what they
tell us.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yep.
So Romans, chapter 14,.
Accept other believers who areweak in faith and don't argue
with them about what they thinkis right or wrong.
(22:02):
For instance, one personbelieves it's all right, so good
.
Those who don't eat certainfoods must not condemn those who
do, for God has accepted them.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
So good.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Who are you to condemn someone else's servant
Right?
Because I don't serve you, Iserve the Lord.
But through serving the Lord Iserve you.
That's what it is.
But God, he's our master Right,so he's ultimately who we serve
.
He says here.
He says their own master willjudge whether they stand or fall
and with the Lord's help, theywill stand and receive his
(22:34):
approval.
In the same way, some think oneday is more holy than another
day, while others think everyday is alike.
You should each be fullyconvinced that whichever day you
choose is acceptable, bro.
So if you think one day is holy, other one thinks that every
day is holy.
Both y'all right with the Lord.
But the Lord would determinewhether you stand or fall.
(22:55):
Those who worship the Lord on aspecial day do it to honor him.
Those who eat any kind of fooddo do so to honor the Lord,
since they give thanks to Godbefore eating.
And those who refuse to eatcertain foods also want to
please.
The Lord will give thanks toGod, for we don't live for
ourselves or die for ourselves.
If we live, it's an honor tothe Lord, and if we die, it's an
(23:16):
honor to the Lord.
So whether we live or die.
We belong to the Lord.
Down in verse 12, it says yes,each of us will give a personal
account to God.
So let's stop condemning eachother.
Decide instead to live in sucha way that you will not cause
another believer to stumble orfall.
(23:39):
So we are responsible fortripping other people up.
I don't know if you guysnoticed, but every single time
we record, we pray that Godgives us words.
We pray for the Holy Spirit toconvince to to um, I'm so hungry
right now I haven't eaten.
We pray that the Holy Spiritwill will convict us.
(24:00):
I was like pray, the Holy Spiritwill convince us.
Pray that the Holy Spirit willconvict us that every single
word that comes out of our mouthwill be fruitful and bring
value to people.
We've said this from the firsttime.
We launched, relaunched thispodcast that we did not do this
to go viral.
We do this to give value period.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
And we said that before we went viral.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
We said that before we went viral, which is wild.
So it says I know and I'mconvinced on the authority of
the Lord Jesus that no food inand of itself is wrong to eat.
But if someone believes it iswrong, then for that person it
is wrong Crazy.
So if you feel in your heart,between you and God, that you're
doing something that's wrong,I'm here to tell you it's wrong.
(24:46):
But it's not your job to try tocondemn me or vice versa,
because we're not following yourown personal convictions.
Christians literally need togrow up, it says.
And if another believer isdistressed by what you eat, you
are not acting in love.
If you eat it, don't let youreating ruin someone for whom
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Christ died for.
So verse 19 says so.
Then let us aim for harmony inthe church and try to build each
other up.
It breaks my heart that so manypeople were coming for us on
TikTok so many.
So many of them were churchpeople, but I will say I'd say
90% of them were all for it.
(25:28):
I think most people were for itbecause we stood up and we
actually said something.
Too many people are cowards andthey don't want to talk about
it.
They actually talk about itprivately, but someone is
counting on you to talk about itpublicly and I think that's why
we went TikTok.
I think that's why we wentviral on TikTok and also TikTok
and algorithms.
Tiktok's probably trying tostir something up Say like let's
(25:53):
let this black guy and thiswhite girl, go talk about Trump.
And everyone loved the 2.6million views.
That's what I think you know,but you know me I like my little
conspiracies.
What I'm saying is, ultimately,people just need to decide for
themselves what's right betweenthem and God.
But you cannot determine yourtruth.
You need to sit down with theLord, you need to seek the Holy
Spirit.
That the Holy Spirit willreveal to you the truth and let
that be your foundation.
We are living in fallen timesright now.
Man and you got to determinewhat's right from wrong and you
(26:16):
can't not be shaken.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I love the way that that verse ended up and let the
church strive for harmony.
I have been in church my wholelife and I have seen so many
people that, in the name ofholiness and righteousness, they
condemn other people, and itbreaks my heart.
(26:39):
And it's literally what thatwhole chapter was talking about
of if God has called you tosomething, that does not mean it
is your job to go and callsomebody else out because
they're not living up to thestandard that God actually
called you to live up to.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Pray for them and ask that the Lord that they serve
will reveal himself to them.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And it's the Holy Spirit's job to convict, not
yours.
You are there to lift, you arethere to encourage, you are
there to pray for them and to bea place that if she, if that
person were to start convictingor asking questions, then you
can more than happy answer andshow what God has revealed to
you.
But man is like and let thechurch strive in harmony, like I
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would love to see that be doneso much more in church
communities and families.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So we're going to start here.
Man, love you guys.
You guys already know why we'rehere.
We're here to help you grow adeeper relationship with God,
others and yourself.
This is how we navigate makingdecisions through a noisy world,
a noisy culture.
We live by the Holy Spirit andwe are led by the Holy Spirit.
If you don't know who Jesus is,I want to give you an
(27:52):
invitation right now.
Accept it to your life.
Just say Jesus thank you forcoming for me, thank you for
dying for me.
I know that I'm a sinner and Iknow I can't save myself.
That's why you're here.
I ask for you to come into myheart.
Send the Holy Spirit to me tomanifest in me.
We pray for good fruits rightnow.
Moving forward, we willcompletely commit our lives to
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you.
Love you guys, appreciate youguys.
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