March 26, 2024 • 30 mins
Ever stumbled upon a love story that felt like it was scripted in the stars? We're peeling back the curtain on our own, which kicked off with a chaotic meeting at Bible College. It's a tale laced with affectionate nicknames and a humor-filled debate on past fashion faux pas, but don't be fooled – it's these eclectic moments that have woven the rich tapestry of our nearly two-decade-long marriage.
Strap in for a journey to Canal Winchester, Ohio, where a bass guitar and 50 Cent track set the stage for a spring formal invite that turned our world upside down. Our podcast navigates through the noise of shared music passions and the distinctive Bible college culture, where the concept of a 'ring by spring' looms large. You'll be privy to the candid moments that spun our friendship into a connection much deeper, peppered with tales of thrift store date nights and the challenges of nurturing a budding romance amidst life's unpredictable rhythms.
Join us as we unfold the lessons learned from 17 years of love, laughter, and everything in between. From navigating the early stages of dating to recognizing when a relationship is divinely intended, we're laying it all out. There's wisdom to be shared, laughter to be had, and maybe – just maybe – a few notes on love that could ignite your own story. So tune in, share your thoughts, and let's keep this conversation, one that's been growing stronger over the years, going.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today may be a little challenging because we have
very different perspectives ofthis topic, and that is how we
met and how we started talking,and I remember you being in the
back of this big auditorium thatwe used to go to school at.
You had your fro, you had yourTim's on and you had no facial
(00:26):
hair, it was just straight babyface I had facial hair.
You didn't have.
You had, like your sideburns,but that was it.
No, I've always had facial hair,Basically if you just flip
what's on his beard up to hishead, like that's what it looked
like.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
That's not true.
That's not true.
I had facial hair like littlepencil mustache.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh, okay, you did, and then the way I used to do my
facial hair.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I used to do like the facial, like the little pencil
thing right here, so I had a fewdifferent ways.
So I would either do likestraight, super sharp Listen,
this is how we did it in the 90sand the early 2000s 90s.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You're literally talking about 2000 and 70s, 2008
.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
And that's why I said in the 2000s.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You're a decade off.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Remember I used to watch Ice God.
Okay, so imagine what like?
Not a little bow out, but likeMario, like what we used to look
, like like B2K right, we hadthe little fro little blowout on
the side, you pat it down.
You'd wear the do rag so thatit'd get all right, and then the
facial hair.
It was super sharp.
Okay anyway, people on Spotify.
(01:29):
Apple can't even see us rightnow, but I had little pencil,
little little black hair goingdown my chin right there to a
little pencil little mustache.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Anyways, I remember you saying like Yo, what's up,
shorty?
Like we had already met once ortwice.
But you used to call me shortyand I turned around and looked
at you and I was like oh no, orlittle mama, I don't remember
which one it was, either one.
I told you verbatim that's sucha cute nickname.
If you keep calling me that Imight have to marry you.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So I just want to say for the record, that is not the
story on how we met.
You've kind of just went.
You kind of just went two,three weeks in.
The first time we ever met wasin the coffee shop.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yes, I remember the coffee shop and then I gave you
a ride home, you and your friend, and I asked a bunch of
questions.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay, that's where the story needs to start because
, people are like shorty littlemama.
Oh yeah, you guys already hadsparks.
No, the the.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
We didn't have sparks for a while.
Oh, we tell it in the storyabout how we met again, I would
like to rewind.
Today's going to be achallenging one because we have
very different viewpoints of howthis story unfolded.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Okay, all right, this is not a viewpoint.
Mine is going to be all factsand only facts, whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Anyways, okay, the very first time I met you was in
the coffee shop.
Your friend, your roommate,asked me to drive you guys home.
I was busy yelling andscreaming jiggle them keys.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Now let's pause right there.
Now I'm going to insert myperspective.
I'm sitting.
So for those of you that knowme, I'm I'm super introvert,
quiet.
I'm to myself, Like if you talkto me I'm going to talk back to
you, but I'm typically not thefirst one to talk.
That just be by nature.
Now, for those of you that knowme at church, things like that
you say, oh, Pierre, so outgoing?
Not really true.
I just know that I'm calledinto ministry and I do enjoy
(03:20):
serving people.
So because of that, I work hardto be outgoing, or I work hard
to be or to show my extrovertside and we all have that in us
but by nature to myself,introvert.
So I'm sitting there at thelittle coffee bar there at our
Bible college that we went to,that we met in Columbus, Ohio,
or canal Winchester, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Can now Winchester.
I forgot about it.
I told you and Reynoldsburg.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I told you, boy, I'm going to have the actual facts
and we'll find out.
So it was canal, winchester,ohio, at the Bible college.
This was after a day of chapeland things like that.
And you said Tim's and I didnot wear Tim's because those
were only on dress down days.
We wore suit and dresses allday long.
So I was actually wearing likea three piece suit.
If what I probably may have hadis probably like a shirt, tie,
(04:08):
a zip up on the bottom and thena jacket, blazer on the top, you
know really slim, slim pants,dress pants, argyle socks and
little like you know square toeshoes.
There it goes, that makingsense.
And then with my little pencilglasses, I had like little
glasses on and little fro, I'msitting there drinking my water.
(04:28):
And all of a sudden I hear allthis ruckus in the lobby like,
ah, what's up?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I'm Adrienne Cooley Ba ba, ba, ba ba, and I'm just
sitting there.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Some of my Deannity Kane fans, they know, they know
Yo and I'm just sitting therejust drinking my little water,
just like this, and I'm like, ohmy God, somebody in this room
is so loud, they're so annoyingand I feel like they want
attention and I'm not giving itto them.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
They want attention.
The wild thing is I was doingnone of that, for you None of
that for attention.
And now my I was just supercomfortable, knew all the people
I was loving life.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So my buddy, who's sitting next to me, he hears you
and he engages.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I hate that so many people are like oh, I thought I
heard you Like that's a commonphrase in my life, so my friend,
who's my roommate, engages inthis stampede, engages, and so
now he's like, oh, that's mygirl.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So he gives a yo, danny, what up, that's my girl.
And I'm just sitting there andI'm like I'm not even gonna turn
around because whoever this is,nope, I'm just sitting there.
I'm just like, oh my gosh,you're so loud.
And all of a sudden I can hearhim say yo, you got me my
homeboy Pete, you got me myhomeboy.
And I'm like, oh right, so he'slike yo, pete.
So I get off the bar stool andI sit, I turn around and there
(05:45):
you are.
So now you come up to me, right, and he's like he puts you like
yo, pete, this my home girl,danny Lee.
I say, oh, nice to meet you.
And of course Danny is like,hey, what's up?
Oh, where you from?
I ask him and then all of asudden you know, we said goodbye
he goes back through her,through her stampede, she does
her rounds through the whole,through the whole lobby, all
that stuff.
I'm like nice to meet you, butmy head thing, I'm like man,
(06:05):
that girl is so loud, cool, 15,20 minutes later go by me and my
homeboy was sitting there andI'm like yo, how are we gonna
get back to the crib?
Cause we didn't have a car.
So he's like yo, actually, myhome girl, danny Lee, she has a
car.
I'm gonna go ask her.
I was like, okay, cool, so I'mjust sitting there.
He comes back.
He's like yo, yo, she's gonnatake us back to the crib.
Okay, danny Lee's over hereknocking over the microphone.
(06:27):
All right, I'm just continuingwith your like do you need a
tech guy?
Is it working?
Okay, I'm good, there you go,sorry.
So yo he's like all right, cool, she's gonna give us a ride.
So we go out.
She's loud, she.
Her keys are loud, her bag isloud, Her flip flops are loud,
cause back then you used to wearreally everyone wore high heels
and they would have sandals andflip flops so that they can
(06:47):
take off the heels.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Cause our feet would be tied.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh, I told you I was gonna have all the facts.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Oh, my word.
You're just at the verybeginning.
This is the first interaction.
We got a long way to go, Mariahhow much time do you guys have?
While you guys are watchingthis video.
We're never gonna make our goal, I know this is struggling.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
We should have talked about this.
This might have to be part one.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
part two I think so.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
So this is the first day we meet.
You know, it's January, canal,winchester, ohio, 2007.
It's cold, there's like snowand slush outside, things like
that.
So you know, so there's allthat.
So we're walking out to her car.
She's like bro, she opens upher trunk cause I put my bass
guitar or something like that inyour trunk, her trunk, jesus
(07:30):
Father.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
God, I literally don't remember Father.
I don't remember this part.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
God, creating her a clean trunk, a clean heart.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Oh man.
So I throw my bass Probablylooks literally like what my car
trunk looks like right now.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, basically my bass couldn't fit in your trunk
right now.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, it can't cause all my hair stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
We put her stuff in it.
So she gets in the car.
She's talking oh my God, today,today, today we're talking
about oh my oh.
And then and my friend he'sengaging I get in the back Whoa,
you guys heard this motorcycle.
Okay, you guys know we live inthe city so there's always going
to be noise, sirens and stufflike that.
Sometimes we're going to stopfor it, sometimes we're not
going to stop for it.
Today was this guy who justdrove by our condo wanted to.
He really wanted to be heard.
(08:15):
So we get in Danny Lee's car,guys, and when I tell you I've
prayed so hard in that momentfor my life, it was crazy.
I prayed so hard for my life.
I knew God was coming that day.
Bro, she's driving.
She's listening to like 50 Centand Eminem, Like we just came
(08:38):
out of church class.
Her music is so loud.
He's in the front talking therelike bumping.
Yeah, yeah, all that, that,that, that, that that you know
in the club, listening toChingie, all this stuff.
She's like yeah, turn up.
She's talking loud.
She's driving like a madman andI'm in the back seat.
She's like so, pierre, so is itPete?
Is it Pierre?
Like what do you call it by.
(08:59):
I said Pete, pierre, peter, itdoes PeeDee, pete, and he and my
boy.
He's like, yeah, that's my boyPete, that's my boy Pete.
Yes, I'm saying.
He's like okay, so where youfrom, Florida, you know all this
stuff.
Okay, how old are you?
18.
Oh okay, did you first semester?
Yep, she's just asking me allthese questions how do you like
(09:20):
it?
I'm like, how do you like thecode?
And I'm just like it's good,fine, it's a little chilly, yeah
, uh-uh brought me in a club inthe back.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
One word answers every time he just would not
open up for nothing.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
And I remember thinking I hate her and that was
day one.
That's all I got.
That's how we met.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Oh, my word so is that.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Is that is that correct, or?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
that one is correct.
That one is correct.
And then it progressed.
It just became I would needsomeone to play keys.
So then I started asking you toplay for me.
You'd play piano while I sangright like school stuff or
whatever, so I would startpicking you up.
Then we had a spring formaldance and I told you you were
(10:12):
taking me, not because I had anyfeelings for you or like to or
whatever, but at that point Ijust knew I'd have fun with you,
yeah.
So I was like hey, by the way,you're taking me to spring
formal because I wasn'tinterested in anybody else.
So I wasn't like hoping thatsomebody asked me like there was
no, no guys there that I liked,and so I was like I just want
to go with someone I'm going tohave fun with and it won't feel
(10:33):
awkward.
So I'm going to tell Pierrelike hey, you're taking me to
spring formal For sure.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Well, and obviously I'm going to say this right now,
you and I give stories verydifferently.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I, because you need to rewind again.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
We, because you just fast forwarded to April in 207.
Well, I'm just saying we don'thave all day we do this is
Spotify, apple and YouTube andGoogle and our heart radio in
the red, where ever you go,wherever everybody else is.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
We are on I heart radio.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I know, that's why I said that, and desert and all
the other weird ones.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Random ones of who?
Is on there.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And yeah, it's crazy.
Anyways, subscribe.
Yeah, it was an interesting fewmonths because you know, from
there we'd see each other hereand there.
You know, hey, what's up.
You know small talk here andthere, like you know.
And yeah, like we weren't likecrushing on each other.
I actually had a girlfriend atthe time.
My, like, my high schoolgirlfriend was still my
girlfriend.
We were still together kind ofdo long, long distance.
(11:31):
You know we would call afternine o'clock when the minutes
were free, all that stuff, youknow.
But she was still.
She was her senior year in highschool, my first year in
college, so her and I were stilllong distance.
It was hard.
Obviously we're not seeing eachother.
So I'm in college now and sonow I'm at Bible college, you
know where, you know you see allthese girls.
You see everyone's dressed tothe tee.
It's Sunday's best, everysingle day, every day.
(11:56):
It's Sunday's best.
Every single day, and in Biblecollege and ministry school,
these girls are fighting to geta ring by spring.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
It's true.
You're literally looking foryour partner to go into ministry
of what God has called you todo.
You're going to build that withand you're going to find that
man at Bible college.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, that's what it was.
So you know it's Bible college.
They had all kinds of rules forBible college students.
You know I have my thoughtstowards the rules.
It's it's it doesn't work.
It's, you know, the world, themore rules people just, you know
, people were, you know, stillliving crazy lives.
I mean, people were gettingkicked out.
Still, this is Bible ministry.
(12:33):
You know people were hiding andsneaking things like that.
Like there was there wasn'treal accountability, so
everybody was dating around,hanging out things like that.
But you and I we were anytimewe were with each other, it was
in group settings.
I was part of the band, youwere part of the worship team
and things like that.
So, yeah, like you know, everyon, like there'll be sometimes
where Danily had to like leadworship early mornings for
(12:55):
prayers, and so she knew that Iplayed keys as well, so she had
a car, so she would just pick meup, like it'd be like once or
twice a week or something likethat, and so it'd be in a car
together driving to the Biblecollege.
You know talking, and it wasn'ta long drive, I mean 10 minute
drive, you know what.
I mean Super short and we'rejust talking here and there, but
it was straight, just work,class, classroom, worship, what
(13:17):
songs do you want to do?
Okay, that's kind of cool, kindof getting to know you weren't
crushing on me, I wasn'tcrushing on you, I wasn't even
looking at nobody because I hada girlfriend, right, Right.
And then fast forward a few,several weeks where you know
we're doing that more and morestill, hanging out in group
settings, things, things likethat.
And I think it was one nightyou came over to because I,
(13:38):
because we lived off campus, allof us lived off campus, so I
lived off campus with, like withmy roommates, my cousins and we
, you guys, you came over tolike hang out or something like
that.
I think you was working atSticking Shake or something
random.
You brought like milkshakes orsomething, right, and me and my
boys were sword fighting withlong story.
We had these, these.
We're fighting like swordfighting, playing around um,
(14:01):
bible college students.
But Dan Lee was there, she hada good time hanging out and I
think if that was a night whereyou kind of noticed your boy, it
literally changed.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I was looking at you you were being a sword fighter,
whatever, um, and I saw yourface differently, like out of
nowhere.
I just I saw your facedifferently and I was like, oh,
he's actually really handsome,yeah.
But it even that.
It wasn't like oh, I think Ilike him, it was just like oh,
my gosh, my friend this wholetime, my friend I'm hanging out
(14:33):
with and having a blast and justlaughing with all the time.
He's actually really cute.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So by this point it's probably like March or so, so
this is like three months afterwe've met, and so there we
started getting really like coolwith each other, like fun, like
having a good time.
That's when I started callingyou like little mama.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
That was.
We became playful and just likewhat's up, little mama, you
know, stuff like that Like shewasn't as annoying still
annoying but as she wasn't asannoying, and I started calling
you little mama, things likethat, and shorty, and yeah and
shorty.
Yeah, right, started callingyou little mama shorty because
you was obviously short and youknow, and all that stuff.
But the next month, april,comes by and that's where we had
(15:16):
like our spring formal.
Right, it's like the prom forcollege students.
It's like the prom.
Everybody's trying to figureout who they're going to go with
, things like that.
April it's weird because it's mybirthday, but I have a
girlfriend.
Still, I'll go from back athome, so I still.
Again, I wasn't like trying topursue any girls because I had a
girl long distance and we, wejust hang in, talking and things
(15:36):
like that.
And one time one day, dan andLee comes to me and say you can
take me to spring formal and Iwas like, okay, I'm gonna pause
right there and say ladies,don't get so upset, don't be so
mad when we say this, butsometimes for guys it's easier
(15:58):
when you just come up to us.
It was just like, yeah, cool,fine, yeah, sure, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Wait, you don't have the facts.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
What.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
You literally told me I'll get back to you.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, here's why I was gonna get back to you, and
this is where you're.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You just said right now, like you're not doing a
good job keeping facts.
I said, hey, you're gonna takeme spring for a moment.
You said I'll think about it,I'll get back to you.
Yeah, but that was because youhad a girlfriend at home, so
that's.
I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yes, and here's why you didn't have an idea, because
we were just friends.
We were just friends.
They never came up.
My girlfriend's long distanceRight.
She's in high school still myfirst year of college and we
were talking and texting all thetime.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Sure, and I had no.
We were literally just friends.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
There was never a time where it was like fully
platonic.
Yeah, yeah, there was never atime.
So that's why I say I'd getback to you, because actually,
honorable thing, hey, your boy.
I called my girlfriend and wastelling her about it.
It was actually my birthdaynight, april 5th.
You guys better mark yourfreaking calendars, all right?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Oh my word, you mark your.
You're still aggressive.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I have birthday issues.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, that's also another episode.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yo, that's a whole other episode.
I have birthday issues.
You guys know what I'm gonnasay real quick.
I share birthdays with my dad.
My dad had the same exactbirthday.
I have his name and all thatstuff, and in the Haitian
culture they do not celebratechildren's birthdays.
So my whole entire life I neverhad a birthday, never had a
birthday party.
And my dad they threw himbanquets and big concerts and
big galas.
And Dan Lee shout out to mywife, first person to ever throw
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me a birthday party while I wasan adult in my 20s, and so,
because of that, birthdays are ahard topic.
But we're gonna talk about thatbecause we talked about it in
therapy and I still haven't madeit through that.
But, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That's okay.
That was a really hard rabbittrail.
I need you to just come back totalk about.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Us.
Anyways, I was telling mygirlfriend that you asked me and
there's a spring formal andthere's a girl, she's just my
friend, her name is Dan Lee, shejust wants me to take.
Well, my girlfriend didn't takeit right, it was just.
It got into a big fight, argueand she broke up with me.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
On my birthday, over the phone broke up with me, dang
, and it was like that's crazy,so I don't know if I ever told
you this.
So the next day I said Okay,I'll take you.
I'll take you, let's go.
And that was April 2007.
We went to the spring formal.
But here's what's crazy.
(18:26):
At that moment, once mygirlfriend broke up with me, I'm
like all right, cool.
First of all, I'm just turned19.
I just turned 19.
You were a child, I was a child.
And then my boyfriend saiddon't come for me.
He said, oh my God, it's bestto be here.
It was a relaxed chill.
All right, I was just man.
These sirens are going offright now.
I was just 19.
And so for me, what time is itright now?
We got to see, because we alsogot to go to church tonight.
(18:47):
Let's wait for these sirens tofinish what they're doing.
Right now they're hot and heavy.
Right now, it's always whenwe're recording, there we go.
I was just 19.
So to me I'm like okay, greatfree agent, so perfect, because
I had my eyes on a few girlsanyways.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Which was not me.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, daniel Lee actually.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
To be clear.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So we're going to put that in there.
I did have my eyes on a fewgirls Now that I was a free
agent and Daniel Lee didn't makethe cut.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
We were just friends.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Because we were just friends.
But I still said we're going tostill take her.
There was another girl that Iactually did want to take.
We're not going to mention hername, we're not going to mention
, we're not going to describeher because I don't know if she
listened to our podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Listen, you'd be surprised who is listening, so
we're not going to go there.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
So there was another girl, Baba Kaza, I wanted to
take.
There was another one too.
There was a few of them and Iwas like man, but anyways, but
Daniel Lee and I was cool and wedid have a good time.
But anyways, Daniel Lee and Iwas really cool, we did have a
good time and we had fun.
And we had fun, like we wentthere and we had a good time and
from there it was a good night.
We hung out with chill, wedidn't do nothing stupid.
We didn't do nothing, old firstkids or anything like that
(19:53):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
It wasn't like that.
I had started to like you alittle bit, but like nothing,
crazy Matter of fact, I drove.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I borrowed another girl's car.
That was my friend that wasthere.
She was when they came up toBaba Kaza with me.
I borrowed her car to pick it,because you're not going to pick
me up on this event this night.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, you didn't let me do that, you picked me up.
But also, the friend whointroduced us was in the
backseat.
He is in the backseat too.
We all took a picture together.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
But that was one of the first signs of that Like,
trust me, like I'm going to getus there, like I'm going to, I
got this.
You're not going to pick me up.
I didn't have a car, but I'mlike I knew how to get from
point A to point B, like we'regoing to have a good time, and
that's always been my nature.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And you remember the dress I found.
I found it like a clearanceplace and I had a friend who,
like, did some different pinningon the bottom, but then you
took the wrap and you made ityour tie.
I did.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And he had like this super fat clock I did, and that
suit I got it from Goodwill.
Yo, we're going to post apicture of that first date
because that's our firstofficial date, but more like as
friends, yeah, more as friends,like man, honestly, like we had
a good time and it was still.
Is that I?
And I'm just going to put thisout right now?
This is just this, just I'mjust going to say this I'm a
free agent, she's a free agent.
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So, long story, really short.
From there we hung out more andmore than I don't know when we
just started kissing.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, I don't know when that happened either, but
you just liked kissing, thoughCause I found out that you don't
.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
you don't want me to tell you a story.
I found out that back then, no,I did kiss a couple of times I
did kiss boys.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Anyways.
But then this is when it becameokay.
So this is when it did become.
I was working at Steak andShake shout out to y'all in the
Midwest who know what Steak andShake is and I would use my
milkshakes that I got on the endof my shift, because you'd get
like a free milkshake at the endof your shift.
I would use that and I wouldget the biggest milkshake,
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knowing I will never finish it,knowing I don't wanna finish it
and I couldn't finish it.
And then I'd call you on my wayhome and be like ugh, I have
this giant milkshake that I justwon't be able to finish.
You want me to bring it by foryou, like you can just finish it
.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And you'd be like I was like, yeah sure, yeah sure.
So I hung up with the othergirl and I'm playing.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You probably did, jerk, I probably did.
That's a whole different thing.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's a whole.
I hung up and I was like hey,and we'll talk about this a
whole nother day, because I knowpeople think about that when it
comes to dating.
I'm like yo, we weren't dating,we're friends, like my options
are open.
So I was talking to a few girlsand I know that's debatable
because girls-.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
That's a double standard, because girls do not
function that way.
Girls do not function that way.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, I know you guys don't function that way.
You guys just imagine yourwhole life with the person, and
the person is like oh snap.
You tried your first name withmy last name?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yep, sure did.
What's wrong with y'all?
Signed my name a million times.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Okay, we didn't do that, we just imagined.
I said, what the few y'all?
We're just trying to figure outwho's the one, who's the best
fit.
Who's the best fit?
You know what I mean.
And so, anyway, she startedcoming over and she would bring
over the milkshake.
We would just hang outside, andthat had to have been one of
the first times, like we justkissed.
Something like that.
I don't even know when or how.
I don't know if you went in orI went in for the kiss?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I have no idea, but by this time it's like May or so
, April, May, it was pretty.
From that point it was prettyquick, you know what I mean.
And then we would start hangingout and I remember one day you
had to move.
I remember one time one of yourhomeboys came and he was pissed
because your car died in frontof our townhouse and he was
angry that you was even hangingout with me.
(23:25):
And I remember you were evenembarrassed to even let people
know that you liked me.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
OK, I thought you were going to talk about when I
was dropping on the cuss wordsabout that friend he was mad I
was hanging out with him.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Oh yeah, boy, Dan Lee had it.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Because I was mad that he is not going to be
controlling.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
So I dropped all the bombs.
Should I say Dan Lee had apotty mouth or has a potty mouth
?
How do you want me to acceptthat?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It's a work in progress, the Lord is working on
me and I'm constantly workingon it.
But in Bible college and I wasso mad at that friend that I was
like he can't control me.
Who is he?
I think he is.
And I was dropping a bunch ofcuss words and you said later on
you told me that it was so uglythat I was cussing that you
were like I'll never call heragain.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Oh yeah, I told I confronted Dan Lee because I was
like I like for you to betalking like that, using
language like that, first of allnot cool, not cute,
unattractive, and I'm like Idon't even want to talk to you
knowing that that's how you talk.
I was very upfront and I hadnothing to lose telling you
something like that.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
And then from there we just started hanging out more
and things like that.
But I think from then, since westarted kissing privately and
stuff like that, we in publicwould be like hey, what's up
high five.
Side hug, church hug, and so Imean one time you had to move so
I helped you move.
And my homeboy helped us movetoo, and Dan Lee made me this
(24:50):
uncooked pizza.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I don't like crispy things y'all, so I didn't
overcook the pizza, butapparently I didn't cook at all.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I came over to help her move, and because I helped
to move, she was like hey, I'mgoing to make you.
I got some pizza, I'll make youpizza.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It was like a frozen pizza.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
This girl puts a pizza in the oven and, like, two
minutes later she taken it out,and so I'm like you're so
dramatic, it wasn't sevenminutes later, it wasn't well
done Whatever.
It wasn't well done.
It wasn't done.
You don't even need to use theword well, that mug wasn't done.
You can see the whole shape ofthe cheese, like the actual form
(25:26):
of the cheese, the shreds ofthe cheese in the middle of the
pizza, and I could pull thecheese and the pepperoni apart.
Very well, that mug ain't done.
You're so dramatic.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
That pizza was not done.
So, anyways, we're just hangingout.
I'm hanging out with her.
She makes me this pizza.
I had to pray so that I didn'tcatch like some type of crazy
bug or something like that.
Anyway, so we're eating thispizza and my friend, he tells me
later on, when we went back tothe house.
He told me he's like bro, if Ididn't know better, like you
(25:56):
guys gave all vibes, like youguys are like into each other,
and I was like, yeah, I don'tknow.
I was like I mean, yeah, youknow, you never know, bro, you
never know, you know us boyslike we try to like, like you
know what I mean.
And I mean from there.
I mean that was just ourrelationship for weeks, for
months.
(26:16):
I think we're going to have tocut this episode half or we just
keep talking.
And yeah, I know we got to go.
I don't know why we startedrecording right now.
We literally got to go tochurch.
But it's crazy, man, because Ithink about that season of us
just hanging out and guys andgirls, the difference from what
we have.
And I think the biggestchallenge there was like you had
your mind and your eyes on meand you didn't want anyone to
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know because you had gotten outof a bad relationship.
You got, you were in somesticky situations.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, and I got hurt, for sure you got hurt from
people that you trust.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yep, you know, that's a whole nother conversation for
a whole nother day we got toeven talk about, we want to talk
about some of that stuff, youknow.
And then, and because of that,the people that you trusted you
weren't ready to tell them thatyou had feelings towards me and
I was on a different spectrum towhere I was like I don't even
know, because she's cool, she'scute, but there's some other
(27:11):
ones too.
I remember I was telling, likeone of my boys back in Florida I
was sending him pictures oflike all the girls that like
could be potential ones.
Like I had one of you, I hadone of the other one or one of
the other girl.
I was like what you think?
And I remember him saying, likehe told me which one he voted
towards too, like straight upvoting on girls.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
You guys are so sick, men, boys, whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Come on, I was 19.
At that point you're boys.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, you boys are dumb.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, yeah, it was crazy.
No-transcript.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It's crazy to think of all of that and then to be
sitting here in our home Justcelebrating 14 years of marriage
, two kids in Serving at thechurch together, like doing our
podcast, like all the things,all the lives that we've been
through together Like we werejust babies.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
It was just babies.
I want to do another.
Let's do another conversation,more like a part two of like how
did we, how did we become theone?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
But how did we know?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
like how did we know?
Because we went from that.
Yeah here we are, 17 yearslater, in love, still in love,
two kids later.
Sex is better now than it'sever been.
Yeah, like we're enjoying ourlives.
We've lived in six differentstates between the two of us.
Yeah and there's young coupleslistening to this, like yo
Listening to.
They know yeah, listening to thetop of that story, you're like,
(28:32):
how did they get from that tothis?
So we're let's, let's do a parttwo Okay, where we just kind of
just break it down of, like,when things started to turn,
because we remember that storysure what happened that summer
and what happened that fall?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
in those conversations.
Well, it's a whole anotherstory.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
So yeah, hey, listen, make sure you guys to subscribe
.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Whoa slow down, sub Subscribe that's how you say.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
You guys know I'm French, so I'll be struggling
with these words.
Make sure you guys subscribe.
Part two is gonna be a gamechanger.
I think it's gonna open up someeyes.
I think it's gonna give youguys Really good insight on just
how do you know when it's God,cuz you've met people, we've all
met people, we've all hadrelationships with people, and
sometimes it could be a goodrelationship.
But, man, it's different whenit's a God relationship hundred
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telling you and that's our story.
So we're gonna jump in on thispart two.
You don't want to miss hissubscribe, hit, share, hit like
send us to somebody especiallyif you feel like you're really
grown from these conversationsand Honestly hit us back like DM
us.
We do respond.
It is us, it's not some AIrobot.
It is us responding back to you, and hearing from you guys also
helps us understand what bringsvalue.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, so we love y'all, let's dig.
Today may be a little challenging because we have
very different perspectives ofthis topic, and that is how we
met and how we started talking,and I remember you being in the
back of this big auditorium thatwe used to go to school at.
You had your fro, you had yourTim's on and you had no facial
(00:26):
hair, it was just straight babyface I had facial hair.
You didn't have.
You had, like your sideburns,but that was it.
No, I've always had facial hair,Basically if you just flip
what's on his beard up to hishead, like that's what it looked
like.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
That's not true.
That's not true.
I had facial hair like littlepencil mustache.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh, okay, you did, and then the way I used to do my
facial hair.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I used to do like the facial, like the little pencil
thing right here, so I had a fewdifferent ways.
So I would either do likestraight, super sharp Listen,
this is how we did it in the 90sand the early 2000s 90s.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You're literally talking about 2000 and 70s, 2008
.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
And that's why I said in the 2000s.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You're a decade off.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Remember I used to watch Ice God.
Okay, so imagine what like?
Not a little bow out, but likeMario, like what we used to look
, like like B2K right, we hadthe little fro little blowout on
the side, you pat it down.
You'd wear the do rag so thatit'd get all right, and then the
facial hair.
It was super sharp.
Okay anyway, people on Spotify.
(01:29):
Apple can't even see us rightnow, but I had little pencil,
little little black hair goingdown my chin right there to a
little pencil little mustache.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Anyways, I remember you saying like Yo, what's up,
shorty?
Like we had already met once ortwice.
But you used to call me shortyand I turned around and looked
at you and I was like oh no, orlittle mama, I don't remember
which one it was, either one.
I told you verbatim that's sucha cute nickname.
If you keep calling me that Imight have to marry you.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So I just want to say for the record, that is not the
story on how we met.
You've kind of just went.
You kind of just went two,three weeks in.
The first time we ever met wasin the coffee shop.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yes, I remember the coffee shop and then I gave you
a ride home, you and your friend, and I asked a bunch of
questions.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay, that's where the story needs to start because
, people are like shorty littlemama.
Oh yeah, you guys already hadsparks.
No, the the.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
We didn't have sparks for a while.
Oh, we tell it in the storyabout how we met again, I would
like to rewind.
Today's going to be achallenging one because we have
very different viewpoints of howthis story unfolded.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Okay, all right, this is not a viewpoint.
Mine is going to be all factsand only facts, whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Anyways, okay, the very first time I met you was in
the coffee shop.
Your friend, your roommate,asked me to drive you guys home.
I was busy yelling andscreaming jiggle them keys.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Now let's pause right there.
Now I'm going to insert myperspective.
I'm sitting.
So for those of you that knowme, I'm I'm super introvert,
quiet.
I'm to myself, Like if you talkto me I'm going to talk back to
you, but I'm typically not thefirst one to talk.
That just be by nature.
Now, for those of you that knowme at church, things like that
you say, oh, Pierre, so outgoing?
Not really true.
I just know that I'm calledinto ministry and I do enjoy
(03:20):
serving people.
So because of that, I work hardto be outgoing, or I work hard
to be or to show my extrovertside and we all have that in us
but by nature to myself,introvert.
So I'm sitting there at thelittle coffee bar there at our
Bible college that we went to,that we met in Columbus, Ohio,
or canal Winchester, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Can now Winchester.
I forgot about it.
I told you and Reynoldsburg.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I told you, boy, I'm going to have the actual facts
and we'll find out.
So it was canal, winchester,ohio, at the Bible college.
This was after a day of chapeland things like that.
And you said Tim's and I didnot wear Tim's because those
were only on dress down days.
We wore suit and dresses allday long.
So I was actually wearing likea three piece suit.
If what I probably may have hadis probably like a shirt, tie,
(04:08):
a zip up on the bottom and thena jacket, blazer on the top, you
know really slim, slim pants,dress pants, argyle socks and
little like you know square toeshoes.
There it goes, that makingsense.
And then with my little pencilglasses, I had like little
glasses on and little fro, I'msitting there drinking my water.
(04:28):
And all of a sudden I hear allthis ruckus in the lobby like,
ah, what's up?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I'm Adrienne Cooley Ba ba, ba, ba ba, and I'm just
sitting there.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Some of my Deannity Kane fans, they know, they know
Yo and I'm just sitting therejust drinking my little water,
just like this, and I'm like, ohmy God, somebody in this room
is so loud, they're so annoyingand I feel like they want
attention and I'm not giving itto them.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
They want attention.
The wild thing is I was doingnone of that, for you None of
that for attention.
And now my I was just supercomfortable, knew all the people
I was loving life.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So my buddy, who's sitting next to me, he hears you
and he engages.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I hate that so many people are like oh, I thought I
heard you Like that's a commonphrase in my life, so my friend,
who's my roommate, engages inthis stampede, engages, and so
now he's like, oh, that's mygirl.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So he gives a yo, danny, what up, that's my girl.
And I'm just sitting there andI'm like I'm not even gonna turn
around because whoever this is,nope, I'm just sitting there.
I'm just like, oh my gosh,you're so loud.
And all of a sudden I can hearhim say yo, you got me my
homeboy Pete, you got me myhomeboy.
And I'm like, oh right, so he'slike yo, pete.
So I get off the bar stool andI sit, I turn around and there
(05:45):
you are.
So now you come up to me, right, and he's like he puts you like
yo, pete, this my home girl,danny Lee.
I say, oh, nice to meet you.
And of course Danny is like,hey, what's up?
Oh, where you from?
I ask him and then all of asudden you know, we said goodbye
he goes back through her,through her stampede, she does
her rounds through the whole,through the whole lobby, all
that stuff.
I'm like nice to meet you, butmy head thing, I'm like man,
(06:05):
that girl is so loud, cool, 15,20 minutes later go by me and my
homeboy was sitting there andI'm like yo, how are we gonna
get back to the crib?
Cause we didn't have a car.
So he's like yo, actually, myhome girl, danny Lee, she has a
car.
I'm gonna go ask her.
I was like, okay, cool, so I'mjust sitting there.
He comes back.
He's like yo, yo, she's gonnatake us back to the crib.
Okay, danny Lee's over hereknocking over the microphone.
(06:27):
All right, I'm just continuingwith your like do you need a
tech guy?
Is it working?
Okay, I'm good, there you go,sorry.
So yo he's like all right, cool, she's gonna give us a ride.
So we go out.
She's loud, she.
Her keys are loud, her bag isloud, Her flip flops are loud,
cause back then you used to wearreally everyone wore high heels
and they would have sandals andflip flops so that they can
(06:47):
take off the heels.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Cause our feet would be tied.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh, I told you I was gonna have all the facts.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Oh, my word.
You're just at the verybeginning.
This is the first interaction.
We got a long way to go, Mariahhow much time do you guys have?
While you guys are watchingthis video.
We're never gonna make our goal, I know this is struggling.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
We should have talked about this.
This might have to be part one.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
part two I think so.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
So this is the first day we meet.
You know, it's January, canal,winchester, ohio, 2007.
It's cold, there's like snowand slush outside, things like
that.
So you know, so there's allthat.
So we're walking out to her car.
She's like bro, she opens upher trunk cause I put my bass
guitar or something like that inyour trunk, her trunk, jesus
(07:30):
Father.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
God, I literally don't remember Father.
I don't remember this part.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
God, creating her a clean trunk, a clean heart.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Oh man.
So I throw my bass Probablylooks literally like what my car
trunk looks like right now.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, basically my bass couldn't fit in your trunk
right now.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, it can't cause all my hair stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
We put her stuff in it.
So she gets in the car.
She's talking oh my God, today,today, today we're talking
about oh my oh.
And then and my friend he'sengaging I get in the back Whoa,
you guys heard this motorcycle.
Okay, you guys know we live inthe city so there's always going
to be noise, sirens and stufflike that.
Sometimes we're going to stopfor it, sometimes we're not
going to stop for it.
Today was this guy who justdrove by our condo wanted to.
He really wanted to be heard.
(08:15):
So we get in Danny Lee's car,guys, and when I tell you I've
prayed so hard in that momentfor my life, it was crazy.
I prayed so hard for my life.
I knew God was coming that day.
Bro, she's driving.
She's listening to like 50 Centand Eminem, Like we just came
(08:38):
out of church class.
Her music is so loud.
He's in the front talking therelike bumping.
Yeah, yeah, all that, that,that, that, that that you know
in the club, listening toChingie, all this stuff.
She's like yeah, turn up.
She's talking loud.
She's driving like a madman andI'm in the back seat.
She's like so, pierre, so is itPete?
Is it Pierre?
Like what do you call it by.
(08:59):
I said Pete, pierre, peter, itdoes PeeDee, pete, and he and my
boy.
He's like, yeah, that's my boyPete, that's my boy Pete.
Yes, I'm saying.
He's like okay, so where youfrom, Florida, you know all this
stuff.
Okay, how old are you?
18.
Oh okay, did you first semester?
Yep, she's just asking me allthese questions how do you like
(09:20):
it?
I'm like, how do you like thecode?
And I'm just like it's good,fine, it's a little chilly, yeah
, uh-uh brought me in a club inthe back.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
One word answers every time he just would not
open up for nothing.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
And I remember thinking I hate her and that was
day one.
That's all I got.
That's how we met.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Oh, my word so is that.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Is that is that correct, or?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
that one is correct.
That one is correct.
And then it progressed.
It just became I would needsomeone to play keys.
So then I started asking you toplay for me.
You'd play piano while I sangright like school stuff or
whatever, so I would startpicking you up.
Then we had a spring formaldance and I told you you were
(10:12):
taking me, not because I had anyfeelings for you or like to or
whatever, but at that point Ijust knew I'd have fun with you,
yeah.
So I was like hey, by the way,you're taking me to spring
formal because I wasn'tinterested in anybody else.
So I wasn't like hoping thatsomebody asked me like there was
no, no guys there that I liked,and so I was like I just want
to go with someone I'm going tohave fun with and it won't feel
(10:33):
awkward.
So I'm going to tell Pierrelike hey, you're taking me to
spring formal For sure.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Well, and obviously I'm going to say this right now,
you and I give stories verydifferently.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I, because you need to rewind again.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
We, because you just fast forwarded to April in 207.
Well, I'm just saying we don'thave all day we do this is
Spotify, apple and YouTube andGoogle and our heart radio in
the red, where ever you go,wherever everybody else is.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
We are on I heart radio.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I know, that's why I said that, and desert and all
the other weird ones.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Random ones of who?
Is on there.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And yeah, it's crazy.
Anyways, subscribe.
Yeah, it was an interesting fewmonths because you know, from
there we'd see each other hereand there.
You know, hey, what's up.
You know small talk here andthere, like you know.
And yeah, like we weren't likecrushing on each other.
I actually had a girlfriend atthe time.
My, like, my high schoolgirlfriend was still my
girlfriend.
We were still together kind ofdo long, long distance.
(11:31):
You know we would call afternine o'clock when the minutes
were free, all that stuff, youknow.
But she was still.
She was her senior year in highschool, my first year in
college, so her and I were stilllong distance.
It was hard.
Obviously we're not seeing eachother.
So I'm in college now and sonow I'm at Bible college, you
know where, you know you see allthese girls.
You see everyone's dressed tothe tee.
It's Sunday's best, everysingle day, every day.
(11:56):
It's Sunday's best.
Every single day, and in Biblecollege and ministry school,
these girls are fighting to geta ring by spring.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
It's true.
You're literally looking foryour partner to go into ministry
of what God has called you todo.
You're going to build that withand you're going to find that
man at Bible college.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, that's what it was.
So you know it's Bible college.
They had all kinds of rules forBible college students.
You know I have my thoughtstowards the rules.
It's it's it doesn't work.
It's, you know, the world, themore rules people just, you know
, people were, you know, stillliving crazy lives.
I mean, people were gettingkicked out.
Still, this is Bible ministry.
(12:33):
You know people were hiding andsneaking things like that.
Like there was there wasn'treal accountability, so
everybody was dating around,hanging out things like that.
But you and I we were anytimewe were with each other, it was
in group settings.
I was part of the band, youwere part of the worship team
and things like that.
So, yeah, like you know, everyon, like there'll be sometimes
where Danily had to like leadworship early mornings for
(12:55):
prayers, and so she knew that Iplayed keys as well, so she had
a car, so she would just pick meup, like it'd be like once or
twice a week or something likethat, and so it'd be in a car
together driving to the Biblecollege.
You know talking, and it wasn'ta long drive, I mean 10 minute
drive, you know what.
I mean Super short and we'rejust talking here and there, but
it was straight, just work,class, classroom, worship, what
(13:17):
songs do you want to do?
Okay, that's kind of cool, kindof getting to know you weren't
crushing on me, I wasn'tcrushing on you, I wasn't even
looking at nobody because I hada girlfriend, right, Right.
And then fast forward a few,several weeks where you know
we're doing that more and morestill, hanging out in group
settings, things, things likethat.
And I think it was one nightyou came over to because I,
(13:38):
because we lived off campus, allof us lived off campus, so I
lived off campus with, like withmy roommates, my cousins and we
, you guys, you came over tolike hang out or something like
that.
I think you was working atSticking Shake or something
random.
You brought like milkshakes orsomething, right, and me and my
boys were sword fighting withlong story.
We had these, these.
We're fighting like swordfighting, playing around um,
(14:01):
bible college students.
But Dan Lee was there, she hada good time hanging out and I
think if that was a night whereyou kind of noticed your boy, it
literally changed.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I was looking at you you were being a sword fighter,
whatever, um, and I saw yourface differently, like out of
nowhere.
I just I saw your facedifferently and I was like, oh,
he's actually really handsome,yeah.
But it even that.
It wasn't like oh, I think Ilike him, it was just like oh,
my gosh, my friend this wholetime, my friend I'm hanging out
(14:33):
with and having a blast and justlaughing with all the time.
He's actually really cute.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So by this point it's probably like March or so, so
this is like three months afterwe've met, and so there we
started getting really like coolwith each other, like fun, like
having a good time.
That's when I started callingyou like little mama.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
That was.
We became playful and just likewhat's up, little mama, you
know, stuff like that Like shewasn't as annoying still
annoying but as she wasn't asannoying, and I started calling
you little mama, things likethat, and shorty, and yeah and
shorty.
Yeah, right, started callingyou little mama shorty because
you was obviously short and youknow, and all that stuff.
But the next month, april,comes by and that's where we had
(15:16):
like our spring formal.
Right, it's like the prom forcollege students.
It's like the prom.
Everybody's trying to figureout who they're going to go with
, things like that.
April it's weird because it's mybirthday, but I have a
girlfriend.
Still, I'll go from back athome, so I still.
Again, I wasn't like trying topursue any girls because I had a
girl long distance and we, wejust hang in, talking and things
(15:36):
like that.
And one time one day, dan andLee comes to me and say you can
take me to spring formal and Iwas like, okay, I'm gonna pause
right there and say ladies,don't get so upset, don't be so
mad when we say this, butsometimes for guys it's easier
(15:58):
when you just come up to us.
It was just like, yeah, cool,fine, yeah, sure, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Wait, you don't have the facts.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
What.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
You literally told me I'll get back to you.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, here's why I was gonna get back to you, and
this is where you're.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You just said right now, like you're not doing a
good job keeping facts.
I said, hey, you're gonna takeme spring for a moment.
You said I'll think about it,I'll get back to you.
Yeah, but that was because youhad a girlfriend at home, so
that's.
I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yes, and here's why you didn't have an idea, because
we were just friends.
We were just friends.
They never came up.
My girlfriend's long distanceRight.
She's in high school still myfirst year of college and we
were talking and texting all thetime.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Sure, and I had no.
We were literally just friends.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
There was never a time where it was like fully
platonic.
Yeah, yeah, there was never atime.
So that's why I say I'd getback to you, because actually,
honorable thing, hey, your boy.
I called my girlfriend and wastelling her about it.
It was actually my birthdaynight, april 5th.
You guys better mark yourfreaking calendars, all right?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Oh my word, you mark your.
You're still aggressive.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I have birthday issues.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, that's also another episode.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yo, that's a whole other episode.
I have birthday issues.
You guys know what I'm gonnasay real quick.
I share birthdays with my dad.
My dad had the same exactbirthday.
I have his name and all thatstuff, and in the Haitian
culture they do not celebratechildren's birthdays.
So my whole entire life I neverhad a birthday, never had a
birthday party.
And my dad they threw himbanquets and big concerts and
big galas.
And Dan Lee shout out to mywife, first person to ever throw
(17:29):
me a birthday party while I wasan adult in my 20s, and so,
because of that, birthdays are ahard topic.
But we're gonna talk about thatbecause we talked about it in
therapy and I still haven't madeit through that.
But, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That's okay.
That was a really hard rabbittrail.
I need you to just come back totalk about.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Us.
Anyways, I was telling mygirlfriend that you asked me and
there's a spring formal andthere's a girl, she's just my
friend, her name is Dan Lee, shejust wants me to take.
Well, my girlfriend didn't takeit right, it was just.
It got into a big fight, argueand she broke up with me.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
On my birthday, over the phone broke up with me, dang
, and it was like that's crazy,so I don't know if I ever told
you this.
So the next day I said Okay,I'll take you.
I'll take you, let's go.
And that was April 2007.
We went to the spring formal.
But here's what's crazy.
(18:26):
At that moment, once mygirlfriend broke up with me, I'm
like all right, cool.
First of all, I'm just turned19.
I just turned 19.
You were a child, I was a child.
And then my boyfriend saiddon't come for me.
He said, oh my God, it's bestto be here.
It was a relaxed chill.
All right, I was just man.
These sirens are going offright now.
I was just 19.
And so for me, what time is itright now?
We got to see, because we alsogot to go to church tonight.
(18:47):
Let's wait for these sirens tofinish what they're doing.
Right now they're hot and heavy.
Right now, it's always whenwe're recording, there we go.
I was just 19.
So to me I'm like okay, greatfree agent, so perfect, because
I had my eyes on a few girlsanyways.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Which was not me.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, daniel Lee actually.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
To be clear.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So we're going to put that in there.
I did have my eyes on a fewgirls Now that I was a free
agent and Daniel Lee didn't makethe cut.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
We were just friends.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Because we were just friends.
But I still said we're going tostill take her.
There was another girl that Iactually did want to take.
We're not going to mention hername, we're not going to mention
, we're not going to describeher because I don't know if she
listened to our podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Listen, you'd be surprised who is listening, so
we're not going to go there.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
So there was another girl, Baba Kaza, I wanted to
take.
There was another one too.
There was a few of them and Iwas like man, but anyways, but
Daniel Lee and I was cool and wedid have a good time.
But anyways, Daniel Lee and Iwas really cool, we did have a
good time and we had fun.
And we had fun, like we wentthere and we had a good time and
from there it was a good night.
We hung out with chill, wedidn't do nothing stupid.
We didn't do nothing, old firstkids or anything like that
(19:53):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
It wasn't like that.
I had started to like you alittle bit, but like nothing,
crazy Matter of fact, I drove.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I borrowed another girl's car.
That was my friend that wasthere.
She was when they came up toBaba Kaza with me.
I borrowed her car to pick it,because you're not going to pick
me up on this event this night.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, you didn't let me do that, you picked me up.
But also, the friend whointroduced us was in the
backseat.
He is in the backseat too.
We all took a picture together.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
But that was one of the first signs of that Like,
trust me, like I'm going to getus there, like I'm going to, I
got this.
You're not going to pick me up.
I didn't have a car, but I'mlike I knew how to get from
point A to point B, like we'regoing to have a good time, and
that's always been my nature.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And you remember the dress I found.
I found it like a clearanceplace and I had a friend who,
like, did some different pinningon the bottom, but then you
took the wrap and you made ityour tie.
I did.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And he had like this super fat clock I did, and that
suit I got it from Goodwill.
Yo, we're going to post apicture of that first date
because that's our firstofficial date, but more like as
friends, yeah, more as friends,like man, honestly, like we had
a good time and it was still.
Is that I?
And I'm just going to put thisout right now?
This is just this, just I'mjust going to say this I'm a
free agent, she's a free agent.
(21:08):
So, long story, really short.
From there we hung out more andmore than I don't know when we
just started kissing.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, I don't know when that happened either, but
you just liked kissing, thoughCause I found out that you don't
.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
you don't want me to tell you a story.
I found out that back then, no,I did kiss a couple of times I
did kiss boys.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Anyways.
But then this is when it becameokay.
So this is when it did become.
I was working at Steak andShake shout out to y'all in the
Midwest who know what Steak andShake is and I would use my
milkshakes that I got on the endof my shift, because you'd get
like a free milkshake at the endof your shift.
I would use that and I wouldget the biggest milkshake,
(21:52):
knowing I will never finish it,knowing I don't wanna finish it
and I couldn't finish it.
And then I'd call you on my wayhome and be like ugh, I have
this giant milkshake that I justwon't be able to finish.
You want me to bring it by foryou, like you can just finish it
.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And you'd be like I was like, yeah sure, yeah sure.
So I hung up with the othergirl and I'm playing.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You probably did, jerk, I probably did.
That's a whole different thing.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's a whole.
I hung up and I was like hey,and we'll talk about this a
whole nother day, because I knowpeople think about that when it
comes to dating.
I'm like yo, we weren't dating,we're friends, like my options
are open.
So I was talking to a few girlsand I know that's debatable
because girls-.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
That's a double standard, because girls do not
function that way.
Girls do not function that way.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, I know you guys don't function that way.
You guys just imagine yourwhole life with the person, and
the person is like oh snap.
You tried your first name withmy last name?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yep, sure did.
What's wrong with y'all?
Signed my name a million times.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Okay, we didn't do that, we just imagined.
I said, what the few y'all?
We're just trying to figure outwho's the one, who's the best
fit.
Who's the best fit?
You know what I mean.
And so, anyway, she startedcoming over and she would bring
over the milkshake.
We would just hang outside, andthat had to have been one of
the first times, like we justkissed.
Something like that.
I don't even know when or how.
I don't know if you went in orI went in for the kiss?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I have no idea, but by this time it's like May or so
, April, May, it was pretty.
From that point it was prettyquick, you know what I mean.
And then we would start hangingout and I remember one day you
had to move.
I remember one time one of yourhomeboys came and he was pissed
because your car died in frontof our townhouse and he was
angry that you was even hangingout with me.
(23:25):
And I remember you were evenembarrassed to even let people
know that you liked me.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
OK, I thought you were going to talk about when I
was dropping on the cuss wordsabout that friend he was mad I
was hanging out with him.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Oh yeah, boy, Dan Lee had it.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Because I was mad that he is not going to be
controlling.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
So I dropped all the bombs.
Should I say Dan Lee had apotty mouth or has a potty mouth
?
How do you want me to acceptthat?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It's a work in progress, the Lord is working on
me and I'm constantly workingon it.
But in Bible college and I wasso mad at that friend that I was
like he can't control me.
Who is he?
I think he is.
And I was dropping a bunch ofcuss words and you said later on
you told me that it was so uglythat I was cussing that you
were like I'll never call heragain.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Oh yeah, I told I confronted Dan Lee because I was
like I like for you to betalking like that, using
language like that, first of allnot cool, not cute,
unattractive, and I'm like Idon't even want to talk to you
knowing that that's how you talk.
I was very upfront and I hadnothing to lose telling you
something like that.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
And then from there we just started hanging out more
and things like that.
But I think from then, since westarted kissing privately and
stuff like that, we in publicwould be like hey, what's up
high five.
Side hug, church hug, and so Imean one time you had to move so
I helped you move.
And my homeboy helped us movetoo, and Dan Lee made me this
(24:50):
uncooked pizza.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I don't like crispy things y'all, so I didn't
overcook the pizza, butapparently I didn't cook at all.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I came over to help her move, and because I helped
to move, she was like hey, I'mgoing to make you.
I got some pizza, I'll make youpizza.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It was like a frozen pizza.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
This girl puts a pizza in the oven and, like, two
minutes later she taken it out,and so I'm like you're so
dramatic, it wasn't sevenminutes later, it wasn't well
done Whatever.
It wasn't well done.
It wasn't done.
You don't even need to use theword well, that mug wasn't done.
You can see the whole shape ofthe cheese, like the actual form
(25:26):
of the cheese, the shreds ofthe cheese in the middle of the
pizza, and I could pull thecheese and the pepperoni apart.
Very well, that mug ain't done.
You're so dramatic.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
That pizza was not done.
So, anyways, we're just hangingout.
I'm hanging out with her.
She makes me this pizza.
I had to pray so that I didn'tcatch like some type of crazy
bug or something like that.
Anyway, so we're eating thispizza and my friend, he tells me
later on, when we went back tothe house.
He told me he's like bro, if Ididn't know better, like you
(25:56):
guys gave all vibes, like youguys are like into each other,
and I was like, yeah, I don'tknow.
I was like I mean, yeah, youknow, you never know, bro, you
never know, you know us boyslike we try to like, like you
know what I mean.
And I mean from there.
I mean that was just ourrelationship for weeks, for
months.
(26:16):
I think we're going to have tocut this episode half or we just
keep talking.
And yeah, I know we got to go.
I don't know why we startedrecording right now.
We literally got to go tochurch.
But it's crazy, man, because Ithink about that season of us
just hanging out and guys andgirls, the difference from what
we have.
And I think the biggestchallenge there was like you had
your mind and your eyes on meand you didn't want anyone to
(26:40):
know because you had gotten outof a bad relationship.
You got, you were in somesticky situations.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, and I got hurt, for sure you got hurt from
people that you trust.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yep, you know, that's a whole nother conversation for
a whole nother day we got toeven talk about, we want to talk
about some of that stuff, youknow.
And then, and because of that,the people that you trusted you
weren't ready to tell them thatyou had feelings towards me and
I was on a different spectrum towhere I was like I don't even
know, because she's cool, she'scute, but there's some other
(27:11):
ones too.
I remember I was telling, likeone of my boys back in Florida I
was sending him pictures oflike all the girls that like
could be potential ones.
Like I had one of you, I hadone of the other one or one of
the other girl.
I was like what you think?
And I remember him saying, likehe told me which one he voted
towards too, like straight upvoting on girls.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
You guys are so sick, men, boys, whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Come on, I was 19.
At that point you're boys.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, you boys are dumb.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, yeah, it was crazy.
No-transcript.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It's crazy to think of all of that and then to be
sitting here in our home Justcelebrating 14 years of marriage
, two kids in Serving at thechurch together, like doing our
podcast, like all the things,all the lives that we've been
through together Like we werejust babies.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
It was just babies.
I want to do another.
Let's do another conversation,more like a part two of like how
did we, how did we become theone?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
But how did we know?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
like how did we know?
Because we went from that.
Yeah here we are, 17 yearslater, in love, still in love,
two kids later.
Sex is better now than it'sever been.
Yeah, like we're enjoying ourlives.
We've lived in six differentstates between the two of us.
Yeah and there's young coupleslistening to this, like yo
Listening to.
They know yeah, listening to thetop of that story, you're like,
(28:32):
how did they get from that tothis?
So we're let's, let's do a parttwo Okay, where we just kind of
just break it down of, like,when things started to turn,
because we remember that storysure what happened that summer
and what happened that fall?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
in those conversations.
Well, it's a whole anotherstory.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
So yeah, hey, listen, make sure you guys to subscribe
.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Whoa slow down, sub Subscribe that's how you say.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
You guys know I'm French, so I'll be struggling
with these words.
Make sure you guys subscribe.
Part two is gonna be a gamechanger.
I think it's gonna open up someeyes.
I think it's gonna give youguys Really good insight on just
how do you know when it's God,cuz you've met people, we've all
met people, we've all hadrelationships with people, and
sometimes it could be a goodrelationship.
But, man, it's different whenit's a God relationship hundred
(29:19):
telling you and that's our story.
So we're gonna jump in on thispart two.
You don't want to miss hissubscribe, hit, share, hit like
send us to somebody especiallyif you feel like you're really
grown from these conversationsand Honestly hit us back like DM
us.
We do respond.
It is us, it's not some AIrobot.
It is us responding back to you, and hearing from you guys also
helps us understand what bringsvalue.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, so we love y'all, let's dig.
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