April 2, 2024 • 36 mins
Have you ever looked back and pinpointed the exact moments that defined your future with 'the one'? That's precisely what Dan Lee and I explore in a nostalgic journey through our summer of 2007. Our candid conversations pull back the curtain on college romance, MySpace melodramas, and the emotional tightrope walk of long-distance love. We share the raw uncertainties we faced and the laughter that bubbled through as we fumbled our way to understanding that we were meant for each other.
Turning points aren't always signaled by fanfare—sometimes, they're found in quiet advice shared over dinner or in the decision to pursue a passion, like Dan's leap into cosmetology school. In this episode, we delve into how we navigated tough choices about our relationship and careers, interweaving personal growth and humility. Dan's heartfelt story of the wisdom he received that reshaped his view of our future together serves as a reminder of how life's compass often points us in unexpected directions.
Our final reflections bring us to the intersection of love, faith, and the trials of pre-digital long-distance dating. We reminisce about cultural quirks, the sacredness of marital titles, and the commitment to date intentionally. Our story is not just a recount of the past; it is brimming with the wisdom and insights we've gathered along the way, with the hope that it might light a path for others in their journey of relationships and self-discovery. Join us as we celebrate the humor, intimacy, and divinely guided steps that led to a love built to last.
Turning points aren't always signaled by fanfare—sometimes, they're found in quiet advice shared over dinner or in the decision to pursue a passion, like Dan's leap into cosmetology school. In this episode, we delve into how we navigated tough choices about our relationship and careers, interweaving personal growth and humility. Dan's heartfelt story of the wisdom he received that reshaped his view of our future together serves as a reminder of how life's compass often points us in unexpected directions.
Our final reflections bring us to the intersection of love, faith, and the trials of pre-digital long-distance dating. We reminisce about cultural quirks, the sacredness of marital titles, and the commitment to date intentionally. Our story is not just a recount of the past; it is brimming with the wisdom and insights we've gathered along the way, with the hope that it might light a path for others in their journey of relationships and self-discovery. Join us as we celebrate the humor, intimacy, and divinely guided steps that led to a love built to last.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A lot of couples young couples, people that we
have come across have asked ushow did we know that we were the
one?
So this is the episode.
This is the one you're going towatch.
If you're dating someone or yousee marriage in your future,
this is the one that you want towatch, that's right.
So this is part two.
If you didn't catch part one,go back and catch up on how we
(00:22):
met.
You need to know how it allbegan and it's not important.
It's not what you think you'regonna say it's not what you
think but it's very important,it it's cool.
Okay, so we're gonna pick up on2007.
Yeah, in the summer.
We just finished that semesterof school here, summer of 2007
yeah we're starting to like eachother, we're starting to kiss
(00:42):
each other.
All the things, not all thethings.
All the things, not all thethings that sounds weird.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, not all the things.
We were just hanging out allthe time, but starting to like
each other.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
You go home to Florida for the summer to work
an internship at your church.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Let me say this real quick that summer was weird
because we were in college andwe stayed after a few extra
weeks after the college seasonwas over.
Because we were part of like aband and the band we were doing
like a, like a conference.
It was like a conference orsomething like that week.
So we got a chance to be partof that and be like and be in
all that stuff and we werehanging out a lot.
(01:16):
But you hurt my feelings thatsummer.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh yeah, I remember that part.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Because we started crushing on each other.
I was liking you, I was likingyou.
I was liking other people tooat the same time, but you just
brushed over that very quickly.
Yes, there was I.
We weren't dating, so myoptions were mad open, so relax.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
We said this in the last episode.
Boys govern themselvesdifferently than girls do and
girls would never talk tomultiple boys, because if we did
, then there's two letter wordsfor that.
Ho.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
What's that oh?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I was just trying, but it's not that we are Santa
loves to.
Oh yeah, go ahead, santa, butwe do not function that way.
But boys do.
So anyways, we talked aboutthat in the other episode Going
forward.
So we were in a rehearsal andwe had started crushing each
other, started liking each other, and I went to say goodbye to
(02:10):
everyone, and I literally saidgoodbye to everyone on the stage
except you.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's crazy and I had to play it off.
Yo, this was messed up, thatshe did this to me first of all,
um, but, which is weird, for meto say that you hurt my
feelings.
It is weird.
But.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I was so nervous.
I picked such bad boys beforeand not bad boys in like.
He was a hot bad boy as in likeyou're just not a good pick,
and so I really did not trustmyself when I started liking you
.
I didn't trust that you were agood pick.
I was nervous of people'sfeedback.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
It's wild how much we realize over the years that you
care so much about what peoplethink.
Yep, I do.
That it literally will paralyzeyou, which is wild.
And literally was the guy thatyou were crushing on, the guy
that you were liking, and youdidn't know what other people
would think about you liking me,so you gave me the cold
shoulder.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, because to be fair, I was a third year at a
two-year school so I was like,in this honors program and you
were a first semester, that itwas like a no, no, like we don't
date first semester people likeyou shouldn't.
So, just to be fair, there it.
There was like all this contextaround it.
Anyways, I did hurt yourfeelings and I'm so sorry, so
you go home for the summer.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Let's make this go on record.
Oh my, here we go.
17 years later, I finally getapology you act like I've never
said I'm sorry.
I said sorry as soon as youtold me I hurt your feelings.
I don't recall it wasn't onrecord like this.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So that summer you go home, you go home.
We hung out.
You go to Florida to be anintern at your church.
You want me to tell the story?
Go ahead, go for it, becauseyou're mad, struggling with the
story.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I know you guys, I know you rushing and stuff like
that, but relax, we chilling.
I yes that all that part wasright, thank, you, I was right
we were just.
That was around the time too,when, you know, you guys
remember the cell phone timeswhere it was free after nine and
a mobile to mobile, all thatstuff, and we had to pay for
minutes.
You know all the Gen Zers likewhat you guys had to pay for
(04:09):
minutes.
Yes, we had 400 minutes a month, right, I did with T-Mobile at
that time, which I think I stillowed him a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
No.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I paid it off, we paid it off, okay.
So there, yeah, we went.
You know, we kind of just itwas summer break, so we're like,
yo see you in two months.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Right, you know, but we could still text, we could
still talk, all this great ideaof like you would come back to
school in August.
We would be that cute newcouple I'd be graduated doing
whatever I'm doing, but like wewould start off the year and
we'd be official.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's what you had in your mind.
That's I went back homethinking like maybe I could
reconcile some stuff with myex-girlfriend because she was
back home too.
We're going to see what's goingto happen, maybe what you know
your long distance.
So there's going to be noconflict there.
I'm just going to be honestwith you.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That was just what was in my mind that is
disgusting.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Which is crazy that we were in Bible college around
this time where people wouldthink like Bible college has all
these rules, things like that.
But that stuff doesn't workbecause at the end of the day
God looks at the heart and so wecan do all these things on the
outside to try to pump fakepeople, but at the end of the
day in my head and in my heart Iwas like man, I'm a young guy,
I'm 19.
I'm like I'm not really sure.
You know, I do love the Lord, Ido feel called to ministry.
(05:22):
So I'm like us guys.
Sometimes it's flattering whenmultiple girls are attracted to
you and we don't know how toliterally control it.
Sometimes.
That's fair, that's the truething.
And it's not all guys.
I get it.
Some guys are like man, I knowhow to control myself.
You're a liar, but that's fine.
Okay, I'm not going to judgeyou Right.
For me, I'm 19.
At the time my ex-girlfriendbroke up with me over the phone.
(05:45):
We started hanging out.
We went on that one date, whichgo back to part one and go back
and watch that.
We'll tell you the whole story.
That summer, I remember, I wentback home.
I'm like okay, let's see whathappens.
I stayed in contact with you.
I stayed in contact with a fewgirls.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We talked a lot that summer too, so I don't know how
you were talking to everybodyelse.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That was the time where T-Mobile was like yo, you
owe us a lot of money.
And I was like I was trying tocall everybody after nine
o'clock because the minutes wereracking up.
That was just the truth.
But at the end of the day forme, I just saw it as my options.
My options were just open.
So to me, like I wasn'tcrossing any lines, I wasn't
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like lying or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It was you sure weren't telling nobody, but
whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I wasn't, but because to me I'm like okay, here's the
thought and this is what Idon't know.
To me I'm like should I tell,like, when I'm 19 and I'm
talking to a few girls, at thattime, should I tell all the
girls that I'm talking to?
No, I'm like, I don't owe younothing, we weren't committed or
anything like that.
I'm just a free agent.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Okay, we're not arguing this whole thing.
The point is our story.
Let's move on.
Oh.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Because, this is a whole different conversation.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
This is a whole different episode this is a
whole different episode of howmen and boys act when they're
dating and how women or girlsact when they're dating dating
and how women or girls act whenthey're dating.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So that's a whole different conversation.
Okay, make a note of that.
Can you guys make a note ofthat?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
People are here to find out how we knew if we were
the one or not.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Okay, let me pause right now and say, hey, if you
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(07:33):
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So let's go back to it.
So that summer we were justkind of chilling talking over
the phone.
I was actually on this choirtour.
I got a chance to see you onthat choir tour that summer,
which was really cool.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh, that's right.
My dad drove us to go see youin Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I was playing bass, had my little Afro guys, you
know, looking all all funny andstuff like that.
And I remember calling youearly that fall, before the
school semester started, back up, when we were really liking
each other.
We had plans Because I knew inmy head I was like yo, I think
she could be the one that mightjump into.
(08:37):
That was around MySpace timetoo.
So you guys know MySpace.
It was a statement when youwould put someone as your number
one or your number two.
You know what I mean.
And so I remember thinking,like yo, she might move up to
number two or three on theMySpace.
But we really started likingeach other.
Some of the other girls Ihonestly like a few of them.
I just stopped calling, stoppedtalking.
There's one that I rememberspecifically that I was like man
(08:59):
.
I just stopped calling her,which I did call her many years
later saying like I'm sorry.
That was messed up Like guys.
Let's not be a bunch ofdouchebags Like legit.
I called her and I was like man.
I'm sorry, I was a kid, I waschildish, I was immature, I was
a jerk and I shouldn't have donethat.
I was a kid, I was 19.
I didn't know how to handle allthis attention from girls at
(09:20):
that time.
Girls at that time, like you,know what I mean.
But Dan Lee was the one thatrose up to the top and we had in
our mind that, yo, we're goingto be that couple, go back to
the college, and stuff like that.
It was going to be like, oh mygosh, pierre and Dan and Lee or
Pete and Dan or Pete or Petey,because I had a bunch of names.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Oh my gosh, you had a bunch of names.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I still do have a bunch of names.
Well, guys, he's not wanted indifferent countries companies
Pedro you are wanted indifferent companies.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, so I remember calling you that August saying
I'm not coming back yep yep, youdid, and so you had to come get
all your stuff, because you hadleft stuff up there for when
you came back for the fallsemester.
(10:11):
And now you were not comingback to school.
You were going to stay inflorida, take a job, continue
school in florida, but you werenot coming back to ohio.
And at that point I was alsorealizing the thing that I
wanted to do next wascosmetology school and that I
couldn't afford to do it in Ohioeither.
So I was actually moving backto Indiana.
(10:34):
Yeah, that's wild.
It was wild.
I remember this pivotal momentwhen I went to eat.
It was actually Olive Garden.
I went to eat with my mentor atthe time in college and I told
her, like oh, pierre's notcoming back, I'm moving to
Indiana, like I'm just.
(10:55):
I just told him, you know, stopcalling me.
I don't remember if this isbefore me and you had that
conversation or not, it was.
So I kind of told her what I wasgoing to talk to you about and
I was like I'm just going totell him like it's not worth it.
We weren't in love at thatpoint, we just liked each other.
And I remember her being soblunt with me Like this
(11:16):
conversation sticks with me,probably for the rest of my life
.
She's straight looked at meover the Alfredo sauce and
breadsticks and salad and shewas like you're a freaking idiot
.
Yeah.
And I was like huh.
She was like you're a freakingidiot.
She was like you had this guythat I had dated at the
beginning of my Bible collegecareer and she was like he was
(11:39):
this.
He was that.
He was terrible, he was a liar,he was this and you loved him.
Yeah.
And she was like and now youhave this guy standing in front
of you, that's everything you'veever prayed for or wanted and
you just don't know.
She was like you're an idiot.
And I remember just being solike shook.
I'd never had someone talk tome so bluntly so so blunt
(12:02):
straight talk.
So straight talk.
That was the probably the firsttime that I ever had a leader
give me straight talk and I amforever grateful for that
conversation.
It did change my life.
I did still try to tell you tostop talking to me.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Well, so fast forward .
I come back up to the college toget all my stuff and to
honestly actually what it was isthe friend, the friend that I
came up to the school with.
She was driving back.
She was legit a friend friendand she was like one of my high
school friends and both her andI was going to the same college
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and she was like, well, I'mstill going back, can you drive
me up there?
Drive up.
So I was like sure it works out, perfect.
I jumped in the car with her,drove her up there.
We took some crazy detoursbecause she lost track of the
map and I fell asleep and I wokeup I was like, oh my God, where
are we going?
We're heading the wrong way.
That was the last time I everlet a woman drive me.
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That was the last time I everlet a woman drive me.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So there's that.
Oh my gosh, that's literallytrue.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
There's a little bit of truth behind that.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
That is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, so, anyways, I go back to the college for that
first week to get my stuff.
You already graduated.
So, you're planning on goingback to Indiana?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, I'm going up to just get my bass guitar, get a
few stuff, jump in a flight andgo back.
So we go out y'all and we getthat week.
First of all, that week feltlike some kind of like teenage
movie of like one week with thisboy that you like and you may
never see him again, like that'swhat was playing in my head of
like you get one more week tospend with him and you will
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probably never see him again.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, so I flew out or I drove out.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Of course we had a bunch of makeout sessions.
All we did was just kiss andmake out.
Oh my word, it was just likethat's just what we did.
That was just really it.
It was just literally justkissing.
So for all y'all young people,it was literally just kissing.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Straight kissing.
That's it, period.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That's all it was In a car that's, but I remember we
went out to dinner one night,tgi Fridays.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, it was Fridays.
It was Fridays.
It was before I flew out.
We went and grabbed dinner andit was super sad.
I remember that night we atewhatever.
We hung out.
We talked and we just talkedabout what this could look like,
with me going back to Floridaand you going back to Indiana.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And I told you, nothing will bring you to
Indiana, nothing will bring meto Florida.
So I just think we just let itbe what it was and that's it.
Yeah.
Like I just, I just didn't thinkit was worth the heartbreak of
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why am I emotional right now Ofleaving someone that I liked so
much?
Like it's okay, like it's onlygoing to make us more
heartbroken if we try to do thislong distance.
So I really felt like I wassaying goodbye to you at that
moment.
Yeah, you were.
I cried so hard when I droppedyou off at the airport.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
That was the next day , but let's talk about that
night still.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
We were there at Friday's eating and we're like
man, so I'm going back.
You're going back, like what dowe do?
What do we?
And we weren't in love.
We just really liked each otherand felt like we could be a
couple.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And this is we're talking about 16 and a half
years ago.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I can't believe I'm crying right now.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, because it was life-changing decisions.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
It was really sad.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It was a life-changing decision for us.
Like we sat right there for us.
Like we, we sat right there.
And and, by the way, when Iwent back home that summer, like
and I tried to reconcile withmy ex-girlfriend I knew she
wasn't the one I really enjoyedtalking to you.
You were the only one thatwhole summer that I'm like man,
(15:58):
I really enjoyed theseconversations out of all four or
five of them, six, seven, Idon't know.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Just let it be noted I won, that's it.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yes, you were the one , and you're still the one, and
I remember we sat there and,danny Lee, y'all told me to just
stop calling her.
Let's just throw in the towel.
Let's not even try, let's noteven attempt this I just thought
we'd only get hurt and I toldyou no, I was like no, um,
here's what we're gonna do.
You're gonna go back to indianaand pursue your dreams.
(16:37):
I'm gonna go back to flor,florida, and pursue my dreams
and we're just going to stay incommunication, keep talking and
if it's God's will, our pathswill line up again.
Guys, I know this sounds likesome type of weird Bible story,
but this is real, real life.
(16:59):
We made a decision and I saidyou know what, I know what God
put in my heart.
I'm going to pursue that.
I know God, put something inyour heart, pursue that.
And if it's God's will, he'sthe one that writes the story.
He'll line it up again.
Too often I see people trying tobe God, people trying to write
their own stories and I'm nottrying to get all spiritual, but
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we're spiritual beings and I'mgoing to say this one of my
favorite scriptures and it wasmy favorite scripture then and
it's still my favorite scripturenow is Proverbs, chapter three,
verse five and six, and it saystrust in the Lord with all your
heart and lean not on your ownunderstanding.
In all your ways, acknowledgehim and he will direct your path
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.
And I knew that for sure thatyear.
I was like you know what?
I'm not going to lean on my ownunderstanding, I'm not going to
tell myself.
Well, here's how it makes senseto me.
I said I don't know why God isdoing this.
I don't know why I'm going left.
I don't know why you're goingright, but I know that we both
are supposed to pursue what Godput in our heart.
And that's what we did.
And in everything that we dowe're going to acknowledge him.
(18:05):
So I remember saying God I'mgoing to acknowledge you in this
, I'm going to put this in yourhand.
And it said in all ways, hewill direct your path.
Or some translations say he'llmake your path straight.
And that's what happened to usthat year.
When we sat there that night, Iwas like we're going to still
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stay in conversation, stay incommunication, and if this is
not for us to work it out andGod don't want us to work it out
the phone calls will stop.
It's not like we got to seeeach other at school.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, you were like it'll be really easy to break up
with each other across thecountry.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I told her that, yeah , I was like yo if it's not
going to work out, just going tostop calling each other.
It's very simple.
But the calls got stronger andstronger, yeah, so you know, and
I took you to that airport.
So we hung out that night.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Lots more kissing.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Long night, 3, 4 o'clock in the morning, took you
to the airport.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I said goodbye to the boy.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I remember what I wore that day too, you do
remember what I wore that daytoo, you do.
I do remember what I wore thatday what'd you wear?
because, you remember, I cut myhair that summer.
Yes, so I came back with a lowcut.
Yes, I was ready that season.
I'm like I'm gonna come backwith a low cut, all the waves,
all that stuff.
And I remember that that um daywas, I think, of Saturday.
You dropped me off at theairport and we held each other
(19:24):
for like a long minute.
It was a fat minute.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I do remember that drive to the airport and I
remember.
Yeah, and I remember pullingover after I dropped you off and
I just cried.
Yeah.
Because I just really felt likeI'll never see you again and
like it sounds weird at thispoint, because nowadays, you
know, college students just jumpon flights Like it's nothing.
(19:48):
But our families weren't payingfor us to fly back and forth to
see each other.
Like that wasn't a thing oflike.
Hey mom, can you send me toFlorida to see my boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Like that wasn't like and this is before FaceTime.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
This was.
We didn't see each other on aphone in real time.
It was you could send me areally tiny, short, pixelated
video.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
So pixelated you can barely see it.
I think you tried to do thatone or two times and I was like
I literally can't see anything.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Can't see it.
She would send me pictures andI'm just like, hey, is this you
or is this a little Puerto Ricanperson?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
It was so bad, but I truly felt like which I know
people are thinking like oh myGod, he's so racist.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Relax, chill, relax.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well, it's because I catfished you she did catfish
you.
We dated in the season wherethere was tanning beds.
Every white girl was in atanning bed and if you weren't
in a tanning bed, you're gettingspray tanned, and actually most
of the time white girls weredoing both.
So I catfished him because Iwas so tanned then.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yo, when I first met Dani Lee, her best friend at
that time was a Puerto Rican.
And so Dani Lee, apparently Ithought was Puerto Rican too,
because Dani Lee, every friendthat she hangs out with, she
started talking like them.
So when she was hanging outwith a black girl, she's like
ooh girl, nah, it's just like,why are you talking like that?
And then she started hangingout with a Spanish friend Ooh
mamacita, oh mira, I'm like justlike, ooh friego, I'm just like
(21:11):
what?
Like now you?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
like salsa.
It's salsa.
I like it all.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
To be honest with you , I just love cultures.
That's how I met her.
I met her with her best friends.
I was like, oh.
So I was like all right, mama,little mama, all that stuff.
You know, matter of fact, thatwas the.
So that was the season after westarted hanging out, like that
summertime, that late springtime, where I started calling you
like little mama and I rememberone time like I called Daniley
little mama so I'm rewinding andand she was liking it so much
and she was like you keepcalling that I might have to
(21:47):
marry you.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I sure did, and I didn't think it was like the
lightest comment, like it waslike the flippest comment, like
boy, if you keep calling, I'mgoing to have to marry you.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Man, you know you was thinking about marrying me when
you said that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I was not.
I liked you, I know you wasputting out a filler.
It is a ring.
By spring program we were onthe fast track.
It was that spring.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
This was me rewinding y'all, so make sure y'all go
back to part.
Make sure you guys go back topart one and watch and listen to
actually how we met.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
So you move away, I move away, I so you move away, I
move away, I move back toIndiana start cosmetology school
, and we talked on the phonemore and more and more and more.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, every night after 9 pm.
So that Christmas your grandmahad a trailer in Florida, yep,
so you and your family came downto Florida West Coast Florida
where people go to pass away.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It's called Heaven's Waiting Room.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yes, and I was like bet.
So we did see each other twotimes that year, summer, while I
was on that tour playing bass.
And that Christmas season andyou guys, so that Christmas
she's in West Coast, florida andseeing her grandma.
She's with her family, her momor dad or brother, and I drove
(23:06):
over to come see you.
I remember driving over to comesee you.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
You actually took me back to the east side with you.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I did so.
I borrowed actually-.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
To meet your family I borrowed my mentor's car.
Yep, that was the first time Imet your family.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, I borrowed my mentor's car to drive over there
to come pick you up see yourwhole family.
The craziest thing is man.
We're missing so much man.
Part one we didn't even mentionthat time when you was
graduating and I met your momand your dad at graduation
earlier that year.
Right.
It was so much and like Iremember your dad finding out
(23:40):
that I was a bass player youknow what I mean.
It was so funny, like.
So, bro, like we.
So that winter I came to hangout with you and I went to drop
you off and I remember it waslike after Christmas, the two
days before New Year's Eve, likeDecember 28th or 29th or
(24:02):
something like that New Year'sEve like December 28th or 29th
or something like that.
And we're hanging out and youtold me you wanted to be my
girlfriend and I was like, nah,next question.
Nah, I'm playing.
No, you were not Next question.
I was like that's cool.
(24:23):
Nah, you actually probably didsay that.
Like that's cool.
No.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You actually probably did say that You're so dry.
Yeah.
Such a lack of response inmoments like that.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I think I was probably like you know.
I want you to be too.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, so that's when we became official, even though
we were long distance.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
December 2007 is when we became an official item.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Wow and then February of 2008,.
You made my dreams come true.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Oh yeah, I surprised you the next year.
I surprised you for Valentine'sday and I think your mom picked
me up from the airport.
She was in on it and that'swhen she started crushing on me.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yes, and I would be like Tammy, he, you are married
and he is here for me.
She'd be like, but he's so cute, and he's here for me, she's
like, but he's so cute and he'sso funny.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That's funny.
Yeah, yeah, I do be.
I do be hitting them jokes.
I do be having them jokes.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
And then that was the time you played with my dad's
bass, and that was when herealized how good of a bass
player you really were.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
So then your dad started crushing on me.
So then your dad started okayso then, that may is when I
graduated cosmetology school sohonestly that january um my
church at the time we werewriting out like our oh yeah
(25:41):
self visions and we were writingout january, oh eight.
we're writing out, like what dowe want god to do this year?
What are some things that we'rebelieving for?
What are some things that we'regoing to claim?
State your claim.
Like my, you know my pastor atthe time, which he was my pastor
growing up through my teenageyears.
He was the one that I was like.
I learned so much, I got filledwith the spirit of God.
(26:02):
That was where I got the callto go into ministry.
Like that was my, that was myfoundation, church and pastor.
I owe him so much man, I'm sograteful for him.
And that year was the year thathe was teaching us like how to
write it down.
That's where I first learnedhow to like write it down, right
at the vision.
And that January I remember Ididn't tell you till a long time
(26:23):
after that I wrote down yourname was like I want to know God
if she is the one for me.
I was so adamant because, like,I don't play with my
relationship with God and so tome I'm like God, if this is not
you, I don't want it.
If it's you, I want it.
So I was like God, I need toknow.
If she's the one, let me know.
Let me know.
I didn't know till about Ithink maybe like March, but that
(26:49):
was January, so I was prayingfor it.
I had it written down.
Like I need to know is Dan andLee, the one is I had your name
written down.
February, I came to surprise youat your little cosmetology
school, you know.
Um, that was a good timehanging out with you and your
family.
It was sad to leave Yo.
Actually, if you guys go on ourInstagram, there's pictures of
our first Valentine's daytogether.
(27:09):
That's 08, 16 years ago.
That was our first Valentine'sday together.
Um, so there's pictures goingon Instagram.
If you haven't followed already, it's on Facebook too as well.
Um, which is so cool.
And then March March or Aprilis when I heard God tell me
she's the one, she's yours.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
That's crazy, and you literally had a word from God
about it.
Mine wasn't the same, but Iknew it's hard to describe, but
I just knew there was somethingdifferent about our relationship
.
I would almost describe it asthis peace between us that it
(27:50):
just felt right and I knowthat's a bad description of it.
That it just felt right, and Iknow that's a bad description of
it, but it just felt right.
And that didn't mean that wedidn't fight, because we did.
We had arguments, we haddisagreements.
We imagine this is thebeginning of Danny Lee and
Pierre, south Florida Haitianboy and a country fed white girl
from Indiana, realizing howdifferent our cultures are,
(28:10):
realizing how different ourcultures are, realizing how
different our backgrounds are.
And so there were arguments andthere were fights, but there
was just something differentthat it never became.
Maybe we're not the right fit.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Maybe, we're not like that never came into our
arguments.
Yeah, we were always pursuingeach other, while doing long
distance and maintaining ourrelationship with God and what
he's put in our arguments.
Yeah, we were always pursuingeach other while doing long,
long distance and maintainingour relationship with God and
what he's put in our heart and Ithink maybe this is a
conversation for a whole notherday of like dating to marry,
like dating leading it tomarriage, because we were dating
(28:45):
with the intention of lookingfor the person to marry, but we
weren't trying to fit each otherin that box.
I think a lot of people makethe mistake is like once they
find someone, they start datingsomeone and they're going to try
to shape them to be the onethat they marry.
We weren't doing that.
We were just generally datingwith the intention of hoping and
pursuing that this is theperson.
And so I remember when I justknew you were the one I was and
(29:10):
let's go on record for you guyswho don't believe me to be an
emotional person I was the firstone to tell Danny Lee that I
love you.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
And I was scared, and so I wrote back.
I-l-u-v-u.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Do you remember that season?
Yeah, you love me I was Likewhat's L-U-V I?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
would only say I-L-U-V, because I did love him
as a person, but I was so scaredto say I was in love with him
and we were long distance Y'all.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Man, if you can date someone long distance and tell
them you love them over thephone, that right there is true
love yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And I was the first one to tell you I love you and I
think there's so much to say,you know.
So how did we know?
We were the ones, like you, hada word from the Lord.
I could tell that there wassomething different about our
relationship.
And then we both had mentors inour life that were saying like,
yes, yes, like this is theperson, if they, if you feel
(30:13):
this, like they weren't saying,um, you know, even as us being
in the, in the position ofmentors now in this, in our age
group, right, we've got somepeople that we mentor, we speak
into, and like we would neversay, yep, that's the person for
you or no, that's not the personfor you.
We would guide them in hey,does this line up with what you
see for your life?
(30:33):
Hey, what do you think aboutthese?
But we both had people,multiple people, in our lives,
encouraging our relationship andsaying it does look like a
godly relationship.
It does seem like you guys area good fit together.
Your families are supportiveand love each other.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
You know, like we and that was just another way of us
knowing that it was we were theones so here we have a year
distance from when we met eachother and a year later where
we're like I think she's the oneSeveral months later to like I
knew she's the one.
Now there's more to the story,right, the following year, you
(31:14):
know there's so much more in ohlike.
Later on that year God openedup doors for you to move down to
Florida.
But I remember so that wholespring when we're over the phone
.
That whole summer we're stillover the phone.
There was something specialabout our connection.
It really was different.
Because we knew now we're datingthe person we're going to marry
, so my eyes and my thoughtswere no longer at that point on
(31:38):
other girls.
So that's how.
I pivoted in my mind To me.
I'm like my options are closednow, even though you're my
girlfriend at the time and.
I didn't play around and callher my wifey.
I tell young guys that all thetime and I tell young girls that
all the time the ones thatwe're mentoring I'm like, hey,
don't call him your hubby, he'snot your hubby.
Don't call her your wifey,she's not your wifey.
Yeah, but I want to marry thatperson Absolutely.
(32:00):
But the wife and husband, man,that is a covenant between God.
It's a calling when you getanointed to say, hey, now this
person is your better half, yourother person that you were
called together for better orfor worse, right In sickness and
in health, right.
So to me I'm like I want topreserve that and keep that
sacred.
(32:20):
And to that moment youofficially become my wife before
God, not just before the law,not just we can go to the court
and sign some papers, yeah,According, legally we're married
.
But there's a differencegetting married before the Lord,
and that was so.
That was special to me thatsummer where like yo, she's my
girlfriend and I love her andshe's the one.
So from that moment on now, westarted, you know, cultivating,
(32:43):
fostering everything about ourrelationship, even though we
were still long distance.
Right, we managed all that.
And several months later, yep,right, we managed all that, and
several months later, god openedup doors for our paths.
Y'all this is crazy to line upagain, like literally.
It was like God was like okay,now you guys are ready, doors
opened up.
You moved down to Florida, youhad a place to stay, you had a
(33:04):
job waiting for you and crazything is what?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
you was 21 21, starting a new career as a
hairstylist.
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
It's a wild, that's wild.
But people say yo, how did youguys do that?
I remember.
Now, here I am, this is wild.
Here I am a whole year later,2008 fall time, flying out to
kokomo, indiana, to drive youdown to West Palm Beach, florida
(33:33):
.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
So, all in all, you really just went to Bible
college to find me.
I did.
It was like you were only therefor one semester and it was
only so that our paths wouldcross, and I a hundred percent
believe that.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, and here we are , all these years later, I still
love you.
You're still the one I chooseto love you, because love, the
feeling of lust, the feeling ofgoo-goo, gaga, cloud nine, that
stuff fades away it comes andgoes At this point.
It's a choice and I choose tosay you're the one that I'm
going to continue to love.
I still remember those dayswhen we first met.
(34:08):
I still remember those dayswhen we first met.
I still remember the days whereI'm just like yo she's the one
and you're still the one.
We went through some tough timeswhere I'm like man, I don't
think she the one anymore.
I don't think she the oneanymore.
It's so true, this one righthere, lord, just like Adam said
to God, it's the woman, god,that you gave me.
You guys see all these grayskicking in in my beard right now
, the sparkles are comingthrough.
(34:29):
No, it's the glory of God.
Right there it's the sparklesOkay.
But you're the one, you're theone, you're the one that I love.
It's crazy man.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
It's crazy.
It's been such a wild ride andI'm so grateful that we get to
share this story.
And there's so much more wecould dive into.
We could dive RV parked insomebody's backyard with the
little baby cockroaches not thebig ones, but the little ones.
There's so much.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
There's some topics of like things to do while
dating, dating to marry.
There's another conversation tohave of like dating the one
dating the one Right.
There's differences, like whenyou're just dating, knowing that
you're looking for the one, andthere's when you're dating the
one, and you know they're theone.
Because there's different stuffthat we have to apply For sure.
Merging families, merging myfriends, all those type of
(35:15):
things.
But listen y'all.
We love you guys.
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We want to encourage you guysto keep on digging.
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with God, relationships withothers and relationships with
yourself.
Let's dig, let's dig.
A lot of couples young couples, people that we
have come across have asked ushow did we know that we were the
one?
So this is the episode.
This is the one you're going towatch.
If you're dating someone or yousee marriage in your future,
this is the one that you want towatch, that's right.
So this is part two.
If you didn't catch part one,go back and catch up on how we
(00:22):
met.
You need to know how it allbegan and it's not important.
It's not what you think you'regonna say it's not what you
think but it's very important,it it's cool.
Okay, so we're gonna pick up on2007.
Yeah, in the summer.
We just finished that semesterof school here, summer of 2007
yeah we're starting to like eachother, we're starting to kiss
(00:42):
each other.
All the things, not all thethings.
All the things, not all thethings that sounds weird.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, not all the things.
We were just hanging out allthe time, but starting to like
each other.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
You go home to Florida for the summer to work
an internship at your church.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Let me say this real quick that summer was weird
because we were in college andwe stayed after a few extra
weeks after the college seasonwas over.
Because we were part of like aband and the band we were doing
like a, like a conference.
It was like a conference orsomething like that week.
So we got a chance to be partof that and be like and be in
all that stuff and we werehanging out a lot.
(01:16):
But you hurt my feelings thatsummer.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh yeah, I remember that part.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Because we started crushing on each other.
I was liking you, I was likingyou.
I was liking other people tooat the same time, but you just
brushed over that very quickly.
Yes, there was I.
We weren't dating, so myoptions were mad open, so relax.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
We said this in the last episode.
Boys govern themselvesdifferently than girls do and
girls would never talk tomultiple boys, because if we did
, then there's two letter wordsfor that.
Ho.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
What's that oh?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I was just trying, but it's not that we are Santa
loves to.
Oh yeah, go ahead, santa, butwe do not function that way.
But boys do.
So anyways, we talked aboutthat in the other episode Going
forward.
So we were in a rehearsal andwe had started crushing each
other, started liking each other, and I went to say goodbye to
(02:10):
everyone, and I literally saidgoodbye to everyone on the stage
except you.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's crazy and I had to play it off.
Yo, this was messed up, thatshe did this to me first of all,
um, but, which is weird, for meto say that you hurt my
feelings.
It is weird.
But.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I was so nervous.
I picked such bad boys beforeand not bad boys in like.
He was a hot bad boy as in likeyou're just not a good pick,
and so I really did not trustmyself when I started liking you
.
I didn't trust that you were agood pick.
I was nervous of people'sfeedback.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
It's wild how much we realize over the years that you
care so much about what peoplethink.
Yep, I do.
That it literally will paralyzeyou, which is wild.
And literally was the guy thatyou were crushing on, the guy
that you were liking, and youdidn't know what other people
would think about you liking me,so you gave me the cold
shoulder.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, because to be fair, I was a third year at a
two-year school so I was like,in this honors program and you
were a first semester, that itwas like a no, no, like we don't
date first semester people likeyou shouldn't.
So, just to be fair, there it.
There was like all this contextaround it.
Anyways, I did hurt yourfeelings and I'm so sorry, so
you go home for the summer.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Let's make this go on record.
Oh my, here we go.
17 years later, I finally getapology you act like I've never
said I'm sorry.
I said sorry as soon as youtold me I hurt your feelings.
I don't recall it wasn't onrecord like this.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So that summer you go home, you go home.
We hung out.
You go to Florida to be anintern at your church.
You want me to tell the story?
Go ahead, go for it, becauseyou're mad, struggling with the
story.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I know you guys, I know you rushing and stuff like
that, but relax, we chilling.
I yes that all that part wasright, thank, you, I was right
we were just.
That was around the time too,when, you know, you guys
remember the cell phone timeswhere it was free after nine and
a mobile to mobile, all thatstuff, and we had to pay for
minutes.
You know all the Gen Zers likewhat you guys had to pay for
(04:09):
minutes.
Yes, we had 400 minutes a month, right, I did with T-Mobile at
that time, which I think I stillowed him a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
No.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I paid it off, we paid it off, okay.
So there, yeah, we went.
You know, we kind of just itwas summer break, so we're like,
yo see you in two months.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Right, you know, but we could still text, we could
still talk, all this great ideaof like you would come back to
school in August.
We would be that cute newcouple I'd be graduated doing
whatever I'm doing, but like wewould start off the year and
we'd be official.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's what you had in your mind.
That's I went back homethinking like maybe I could
reconcile some stuff with myex-girlfriend because she was
back home too.
We're going to see what's goingto happen, maybe what you know
your long distance.
So there's going to be noconflict there.
I'm just going to be honestwith you.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That was just what was in my mind that is
disgusting.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Which is crazy that we were in Bible college around
this time where people wouldthink like Bible college has all
these rules, things like that.
But that stuff doesn't workbecause at the end of the day
God looks at the heart and so wecan do all these things on the
outside to try to pump fakepeople, but at the end of the
day in my head and in my heart Iwas like man, I'm a young guy,
I'm 19.
I'm like I'm not really sure.
You know, I do love the Lord, Ido feel called to ministry.
(05:22):
So I'm like us guys.
Sometimes it's flattering whenmultiple girls are attracted to
you and we don't know how toliterally control it.
Sometimes.
That's fair, that's the truething.
And it's not all guys.
I get it.
Some guys are like man, I knowhow to control myself.
You're a liar, but that's fine.
Okay, I'm not going to judgeyou Right.
For me, I'm 19.
At the time my ex-girlfriendbroke up with me over the phone.
(05:45):
We started hanging out.
We went on that one date, whichgo back to part one and go back
and watch that.
We'll tell you the whole story.
That summer, I remember, I wentback home.
I'm like okay, let's see whathappens.
I stayed in contact with you.
I stayed in contact with a fewgirls.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We talked a lot that summer too, so I don't know how
you were talking to everybodyelse.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That was the time where T-Mobile was like yo, you
owe us a lot of money.
And I was like I was trying tocall everybody after nine
o'clock because the minutes wereracking up.
That was just the truth.
But at the end of the day forme, I just saw it as my options.
My options were just open.
So to me, like I wasn'tcrossing any lines, I wasn't
(06:25):
like lying or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It was you sure weren't telling nobody, but
whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I wasn't, but because to me I'm like okay, here's the
thought and this is what Idon't know.
To me I'm like should I tell,like, when I'm 19 and I'm
talking to a few girls, at thattime, should I tell all the
girls that I'm talking to?
No, I'm like, I don't owe younothing, we weren't committed or
anything like that.
I'm just a free agent.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Okay, we're not arguing this whole thing.
The point is our story.
Let's move on.
Oh.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Because, this is a whole different conversation.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
This is a whole different episode this is a
whole different episode of howmen and boys act when they're
dating and how women or girlsact when they're dating dating
and how women or girls act whenthey're dating.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So that's a whole different conversation.
Okay, make a note of that.
Can you guys make a note ofthat?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
People are here to find out how we knew if we were
the one or not.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
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So let's go back to it.
So that summer we were justkind of chilling talking over
the phone.
I was actually on this choirtour.
I got a chance to see you onthat choir tour that summer,
which was really cool.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh, that's right.
My dad drove us to go see youin Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I was playing bass, had my little Afro guys, you
know, looking all all funny andstuff like that.
And I remember calling youearly that fall, before the
school semester started, back up, when we were really liking
each other.
We had plans Because I knew inmy head I was like yo, I think
she could be the one that mightjump into.
(08:37):
That was around MySpace timetoo.
So you guys know MySpace.
It was a statement when youwould put someone as your number
one or your number two.
You know what I mean.
And so I remember thinking,like yo, she might move up to
number two or three on theMySpace.
But we really started likingeach other.
Some of the other girls Ihonestly like a few of them.
I just stopped calling, stoppedtalking.
There's one that I rememberspecifically that I was like man
(08:59):
.
I just stopped calling her,which I did call her many years
later saying like I'm sorry.
That was messed up Like guys.
Let's not be a bunch ofdouchebags Like legit.
I called her and I was like man.
I'm sorry, I was a kid, I waschildish, I was immature, I was
a jerk and I shouldn't have donethat.
I was a kid, I was 19.
I didn't know how to handle allthis attention from girls at
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that time.
Girls at that time, like you,know what I mean.
But Dan Lee was the one thatrose up to the top and we had in
our mind that, yo, we're goingto be that couple, go back to
the college, and stuff like that.
It was going to be like, oh mygosh, pierre and Dan and Lee or
Pete and Dan or Pete or Petey,because I had a bunch of names.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Oh my gosh, you had a bunch of names.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I still do have a bunch of names.
Well, guys, he's not wanted indifferent countries companies
Pedro you are wanted indifferent companies.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, so I remember calling you that August saying
I'm not coming back yep yep, youdid, and so you had to come get
all your stuff, because you hadleft stuff up there for when
you came back for the fallsemester.
(10:11):
And now you were not comingback to school.
You were going to stay inflorida, take a job, continue
school in florida, but you werenot coming back to ohio.
And at that point I was alsorealizing the thing that I
wanted to do next wascosmetology school and that I
couldn't afford to do it in Ohioeither.
So I was actually moving backto Indiana.
(10:34):
Yeah, that's wild.
It was wild.
I remember this pivotal momentwhen I went to eat.
It was actually Olive Garden.
I went to eat with my mentor atthe time in college and I told
her, like oh, pierre's notcoming back, I'm moving to
Indiana, like I'm just.
(10:55):
I just told him, you know, stopcalling me.
I don't remember if this isbefore me and you had that
conversation or not, it was.
So I kind of told her what I wasgoing to talk to you about and
I was like I'm just going totell him like it's not worth it.
We weren't in love at thatpoint, we just liked each other.
And I remember her being soblunt with me Like this
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conversation sticks with me,probably for the rest of my life
.
She's straight looked at meover the Alfredo sauce and
breadsticks and salad and shewas like you're a freaking idiot
.
Yeah.
And I was like huh.
She was like you're a freakingidiot.
She was like you had this guythat I had dated at the
beginning of my Bible collegecareer and she was like he was
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this.
He was that.
He was terrible, he was a liar,he was this and you loved him.
Yeah.
And she was like and now youhave this guy standing in front
of you, that's everything you'veever prayed for or wanted and
you just don't know.
She was like you're an idiot.
And I remember just being solike shook.
I'd never had someone talk tome so bluntly so so blunt
(12:02):
straight talk.
So straight talk.
That was the probably the firsttime that I ever had a leader
give me straight talk and I amforever grateful for that
conversation.
It did change my life.
I did still try to tell you tostop talking to me.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Well, so fast forward .
I come back up to the college toget all my stuff and to
honestly actually what it was isthe friend, the friend that I
came up to the school with.
She was driving back.
She was legit a friend friendand she was like one of my high
school friends and both her andI was going to the same college
(12:39):
and she was like, well, I'mstill going back, can you drive
me up there?
Drive up.
So I was like sure it works out, perfect.
I jumped in the car with her,drove her up there.
We took some crazy detoursbecause she lost track of the
map and I fell asleep and I wokeup I was like, oh my God, where
are we going?
We're heading the wrong way.
That was the last time I everlet a woman drive me.
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That was the last time I everlet a woman drive me.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So there's that.
Oh my gosh, that's literallytrue.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
There's a little bit of truth behind that.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
That is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, so, anyways, I go back to the college for that
first week to get my stuff.
You already graduated.
So, you're planning on goingback to Indiana?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, I'm going up to just get my bass guitar, get a
few stuff, jump in a flight andgo back.
So we go out y'all and we getthat week.
First of all, that week feltlike some kind of like teenage
movie of like one week with thisboy that you like and you may
never see him again, like that'swhat was playing in my head of
like you get one more week tospend with him and you will
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probably never see him again.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, so I flew out or I drove out.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Of course we had a bunch of makeout sessions.
All we did was just kiss andmake out.
Oh my word, it was just likethat's just what we did.
That was just really it.
It was just literally justkissing.
So for all y'all young people,it was literally just kissing.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Straight kissing.
That's it, period.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That's all it was In a car that's, but I remember we
went out to dinner one night,tgi Fridays.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, it was Fridays.
It was Fridays.
It was before I flew out.
We went and grabbed dinner andit was super sad.
I remember that night we atewhatever.
We hung out.
We talked and we just talkedabout what this could look like,
with me going back to Floridaand you going back to Indiana.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And I told you, nothing will bring you to
Indiana, nothing will bring meto Florida.
So I just think we just let itbe what it was and that's it.
Yeah.
Like I just, I just didn't thinkit was worth the heartbreak of
(14:46):
why am I emotional right now Ofleaving someone that I liked so
much?
Like it's okay, like it's onlygoing to make us more
heartbroken if we try to do thislong distance.
So I really felt like I wassaying goodbye to you at that
moment.
Yeah, you were.
I cried so hard when I droppedyou off at the airport.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
That was the next day , but let's talk about that
night still.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
We were there at Friday's eating and we're like
man, so I'm going back.
You're going back, like what dowe do?
What do we?
And we weren't in love.
We just really liked each otherand felt like we could be a
couple.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And this is we're talking about 16 and a half
years ago.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I can't believe I'm crying right now.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, because it was life-changing decisions.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
It was really sad.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It was a life-changing decision for us.
Like we sat right there for us.
Like we, we sat right there.
And and, by the way, when Iwent back home that summer, like
and I tried to reconcile withmy ex-girlfriend I knew she
wasn't the one I really enjoyedtalking to you.
You were the only one thatwhole summer that I'm like man,
(15:58):
I really enjoyed theseconversations out of all four or
five of them, six, seven, Idon't know.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Just let it be noted I won, that's it.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yes, you were the one , and you're still the one, and
I remember we sat there and,danny Lee, y'all told me to just
stop calling her.
Let's just throw in the towel.
Let's not even try, let's noteven attempt this I just thought
we'd only get hurt and I toldyou no, I was like no, um,
here's what we're gonna do.
You're gonna go back to indianaand pursue your dreams.
(16:37):
I'm gonna go back to flor,florida, and pursue my dreams
and we're just going to stay incommunication, keep talking and
if it's God's will, our pathswill line up again.
Guys, I know this sounds likesome type of weird Bible story,
but this is real, real life.
(16:59):
We made a decision and I saidyou know what, I know what God
put in my heart.
I'm going to pursue that.
I know God, put something inyour heart, pursue that.
And if it's God's will, he'sthe one that writes the story.
He'll line it up again.
Too often I see people trying tobe God, people trying to write
their own stories and I'm nottrying to get all spiritual, but
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we're spiritual beings and I'mgoing to say this one of my
favorite scriptures and it wasmy favorite scripture then and
it's still my favorite scripturenow is Proverbs, chapter three,
verse five and six, and it saystrust in the Lord with all your
heart and lean not on your ownunderstanding.
In all your ways, acknowledgehim and he will direct your path
(17:44):
.
And I knew that for sure thatyear.
I was like you know what?
I'm not going to lean on my ownunderstanding, I'm not going to
tell myself.
Well, here's how it makes senseto me.
I said I don't know why God isdoing this.
I don't know why I'm going left.
I don't know why you're goingright, but I know that we both
are supposed to pursue what Godput in our heart.
And that's what we did.
And in everything that we dowe're going to acknowledge him.
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So I remember saying God I'mgoing to acknowledge you in this
, I'm going to put this in yourhand.
And it said in all ways, hewill direct your path.
Or some translations say he'llmake your path straight.
And that's what happened to usthat year.
When we sat there that night, Iwas like we're going to still
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stay in conversation, stay incommunication, and if this is
not for us to work it out andGod don't want us to work it out
the phone calls will stop.
It's not like we got to seeeach other at school.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, you were like it'll be really easy to break up
with each other across thecountry.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I told her that, yeah , I was like yo if it's not
going to work out, just going tostop calling each other.
It's very simple.
But the calls got stronger andstronger, yeah, so you know, and
I took you to that airport.
So we hung out that night.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Lots more kissing.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Long night, 3, 4 o'clock in the morning, took you
to the airport.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I said goodbye to the boy.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I remember what I wore that day too, you do
remember what I wore that daytoo, you do.
I do remember what I wore thatday what'd you wear?
because, you remember, I cut myhair that summer.
Yes, so I came back with a lowcut.
Yes, I was ready that season.
I'm like I'm gonna come backwith a low cut, all the waves,
all that stuff.
And I remember that that um daywas, I think, of Saturday.
You dropped me off at theairport and we held each other
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for like a long minute.
It was a fat minute.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I do remember that drive to the airport and I
remember.
Yeah, and I remember pullingover after I dropped you off and
I just cried.
Yeah.
Because I just really felt likeI'll never see you again and
like it sounds weird at thispoint, because nowadays, you
know, college students just jumpon flights Like it's nothing.
(19:48):
But our families weren't payingfor us to fly back and forth to
see each other.
Like that wasn't a thing oflike.
Hey mom, can you send me toFlorida to see my boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Like that wasn't like and this is before FaceTime.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
This was.
We didn't see each other on aphone in real time.
It was you could send me areally tiny, short, pixelated
video.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
So pixelated you can barely see it.
I think you tried to do thatone or two times and I was like
I literally can't see anything.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Can't see it.
She would send me pictures andI'm just like, hey, is this you
or is this a little Puerto Ricanperson?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
It was so bad, but I truly felt like which I know
people are thinking like oh myGod, he's so racist.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Relax, chill, relax.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well, it's because I catfished you she did catfish
you.
We dated in the season wherethere was tanning beds.
Every white girl was in atanning bed and if you weren't
in a tanning bed, you're gettingspray tanned, and actually most
of the time white girls weredoing both.
So I catfished him because Iwas so tanned then.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yo, when I first met Dani Lee, her best friend at
that time was a Puerto Rican.
And so Dani Lee, apparently Ithought was Puerto Rican too,
because Dani Lee, every friendthat she hangs out with, she
started talking like them.
So when she was hanging outwith a black girl, she's like
ooh girl, nah, it's just like,why are you talking like that?
And then she started hangingout with a Spanish friend Ooh
mamacita, oh mira, I'm like justlike, ooh friego, I'm just like
(21:11):
what?
Like now you?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
like salsa.
It's salsa.
I like it all.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
To be honest with you , I just love cultures.
That's how I met her.
I met her with her best friends.
I was like, oh.
So I was like all right, mama,little mama, all that stuff.
You know, matter of fact, thatwas the.
So that was the season after westarted hanging out, like that
summertime, that late springtime, where I started calling you
like little mama and I rememberone time like I called Daniley
little mama so I'm rewinding andand she was liking it so much
and she was like you keepcalling that I might have to
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marry you.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I sure did, and I didn't think it was like the
lightest comment, like it waslike the flippest comment, like
boy, if you keep calling, I'mgoing to have to marry you.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Man, you know you was thinking about marrying me when
you said that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I was not.
I liked you, I know you wasputting out a filler.
It is a ring.
By spring program we were onthe fast track.
It was that spring.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
This was me rewinding y'all, so make sure y'all go
back to part.
Make sure you guys go back topart one and watch and listen to
actually how we met.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
So you move away, I move away, I so you move away, I
move away, I move back toIndiana start cosmetology school
, and we talked on the phonemore and more and more and more.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, every night after 9 pm.
So that Christmas your grandmahad a trailer in Florida, yep,
so you and your family came downto Florida West Coast Florida
where people go to pass away.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It's called Heaven's Waiting Room.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yes, and I was like bet.
So we did see each other twotimes that year, summer, while I
was on that tour playing bass.
And that Christmas season andyou guys, so that Christmas
she's in West Coast, florida andseeing her grandma.
She's with her family, her momor dad or brother, and I drove
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over to come see you.
I remember driving over to comesee you.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
You actually took me back to the east side with you.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I did so.
I borrowed actually-.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
To meet your family I borrowed my mentor's car.
Yep, that was the first time Imet your family.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, I borrowed my mentor's car to drive over there
to come pick you up see yourwhole family.
The craziest thing is man.
We're missing so much man.
Part one we didn't even mentionthat time when you was
graduating and I met your momand your dad at graduation
earlier that year.
Right.
It was so much and like Iremember your dad finding out
(23:40):
that I was a bass player youknow what I mean.
It was so funny, like.
So, bro, like we.
So that winter I came to hangout with you and I went to drop
you off and I remember it waslike after Christmas, the two
days before New Year's Eve, likeDecember 28th or 29th or
(24:02):
something like that New Year'sEve like December 28th or 29th
or something like that.
And we're hanging out and youtold me you wanted to be my
girlfriend and I was like, nah,next question.
Nah, I'm playing.
No, you were not Next question.
I was like that's cool.
(24:23):
Nah, you actually probably didsay that.
Like that's cool.
No.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You actually probably did say that You're so dry.
Yeah.
Such a lack of response inmoments like that.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I think I was probably like you know.
I want you to be too.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, so that's when we became official, even though
we were long distance.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
December 2007 is when we became an official item.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Wow and then February of 2008,.
You made my dreams come true.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Oh yeah, I surprised you the next year.
I surprised you for Valentine'sday and I think your mom picked
me up from the airport.
She was in on it and that'swhen she started crushing on me.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yes, and I would be like Tammy, he, you are married
and he is here for me.
She'd be like, but he's so cute, and he's here for me, she's
like, but he's so cute and he'sso funny.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That's funny.
Yeah, yeah, I do be.
I do be hitting them jokes.
I do be having them jokes.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
And then that was the time you played with my dad's
bass, and that was when herealized how good of a bass
player you really were.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
So then your dad started crushing on me.
So then your dad started okayso then, that may is when I
graduated cosmetology school sohonestly that january um my
church at the time we werewriting out like our oh yeah
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self visions and we were writingout january, oh eight.
we're writing out, like what dowe want god to do this year?
What are some things that we'rebelieving for?
What are some things that we'regoing to claim?
State your claim.
Like my, you know my pastor atthe time, which he was my pastor
growing up through my teenageyears.
He was the one that I was like.
I learned so much, I got filledwith the spirit of God.
(26:02):
That was where I got the callto go into ministry.
Like that was my, that was myfoundation, church and pastor.
I owe him so much man, I'm sograteful for him.
And that year was the year thathe was teaching us like how to
write it down.
That's where I first learnedhow to like write it down, right
at the vision.
And that January I remember Ididn't tell you till a long time
(26:23):
after that I wrote down yourname was like I want to know God
if she is the one for me.
I was so adamant because, like,I don't play with my
relationship with God and so tome I'm like God, if this is not
you, I don't want it.
If it's you, I want it.
So I was like God, I need toknow.
If she's the one, let me know.
Let me know.
I didn't know till about Ithink maybe like March, but that
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was January, so I was prayingfor it.
I had it written down.
Like I need to know is Dan andLee, the one is I had your name
written down.
February, I came to surprise youat your little cosmetology
school, you know.
Um, that was a good timehanging out with you and your
family.
It was sad to leave Yo.
Actually, if you guys go on ourInstagram, there's pictures of
our first Valentine's daytogether.
(27:09):
That's 08, 16 years ago.
That was our first Valentine'sday together.
Um, so there's pictures goingon Instagram.
If you haven't followed already, it's on Facebook too as well.
Um, which is so cool.
And then March March or Aprilis when I heard God tell me
she's the one, she's yours.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
That's crazy, and you literally had a word from God
about it.
Mine wasn't the same, but Iknew it's hard to describe, but
I just knew there was somethingdifferent about our relationship
.
I would almost describe it asthis peace between us that it
(27:50):
just felt right and I knowthat's a bad description of it.
That it just felt right, and Iknow that's a bad description of
it, but it just felt right.
And that didn't mean that wedidn't fight, because we did.
We had arguments, we haddisagreements.
We imagine this is thebeginning of Danny Lee and
Pierre, south Florida Haitianboy and a country fed white girl
from Indiana, realizing howdifferent our cultures are,
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realizing how different ourcultures are, realizing how
different our backgrounds are.
And so there were arguments andthere were fights, but there
was just something differentthat it never became.
Maybe we're not the right fit.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Maybe, we're not like that never came into our
arguments.
Yeah, we were always pursuingeach other, while doing long
distance and maintaining ourrelationship with God and what
he's put in our arguments.
Yeah, we were always pursuingeach other while doing long,
long distance and maintainingour relationship with God and
what he's put in our heart and Ithink maybe this is a
conversation for a whole notherday of like dating to marry,
like dating leading it tomarriage, because we were dating
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with the intention of lookingfor the person to marry, but we
weren't trying to fit each otherin that box.
I think a lot of people makethe mistake is like once they
find someone, they start datingsomeone and they're going to try
to shape them to be the onethat they marry.
We weren't doing that.
We were just generally datingwith the intention of hoping and
pursuing that this is theperson.
And so I remember when I justknew you were the one I was and
(29:10):
let's go on record for you guyswho don't believe me to be an
emotional person I was the firstone to tell Danny Lee that I
love you.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
And I was scared, and so I wrote back.
I-l-u-v-u.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Do you remember that season?
Yeah, you love me I was Likewhat's L-U-V I?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
would only say I-L-U-V, because I did love him
as a person, but I was so scaredto say I was in love with him
and we were long distance Y'all.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Man, if you can date someone long distance and tell
them you love them over thephone, that right there is true
love yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And I was the first one to tell you I love you and I
think there's so much to say,you know.
So how did we know?
We were the ones, like you, hada word from the Lord.
I could tell that there wassomething different about our
relationship.
And then we both had mentors inour life that were saying like,
yes, yes, like this is theperson, if they, if you feel
(30:13):
this, like they weren't saying,um, you know, even as us being
in the, in the position ofmentors now in this, in our age
group, right, we've got somepeople that we mentor, we speak
into, and like we would neversay, yep, that's the person for
you or no, that's not the personfor you.
We would guide them in hey,does this line up with what you
see for your life?
(30:33):
Hey, what do you think aboutthese?
But we both had people,multiple people, in our lives,
encouraging our relationship andsaying it does look like a
godly relationship.
It does seem like you guys area good fit together.
Your families are supportiveand love each other.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
You know, like we and that was just another way of us
knowing that it was we were theones so here we have a year
distance from when we met eachother and a year later where
we're like I think she's the oneSeveral months later to like I
knew she's the one.
Now there's more to the story,right, the following year, you
(31:14):
know there's so much more in ohlike.
Later on that year God openedup doors for you to move down to
Florida.
But I remember so that wholespring when we're over the phone
.
That whole summer we're stillover the phone.
There was something specialabout our connection.
It really was different.
Because we knew now we're datingthe person we're going to marry
, so my eyes and my thoughtswere no longer at that point on
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other girls.
So that's how.
I pivoted in my mind To me.
I'm like my options are closednow, even though you're my
girlfriend at the time and.
I didn't play around and callher my wifey.
I tell young guys that all thetime and I tell young girls that
all the time the ones thatwe're mentoring I'm like, hey,
don't call him your hubby, he'snot your hubby.
Don't call her your wifey,she's not your wifey.
Yeah, but I want to marry thatperson Absolutely.
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But the wife and husband, man,that is a covenant between God.
It's a calling when you getanointed to say, hey, now this
person is your better half, yourother person that you were
called together for better orfor worse, right In sickness and
in health, right.
So to me I'm like I want topreserve that and keep that
sacred.
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And to that moment youofficially become my wife before
God, not just before the law,not just we can go to the court
and sign some papers, yeah,According, legally we're married
.
But there's a differencegetting married before the Lord,
and that was so.
That was special to me thatsummer where like yo, she's my
girlfriend and I love her andshe's the one.
So from that moment on now, westarted, you know, cultivating,
(32:43):
fostering everything about ourrelationship, even though we
were still long distance.
Right, we managed all that.
And several months later, yep,right, we managed all that, and
several months later, god openedup doors for our paths.
Y'all this is crazy to line upagain, like literally.
It was like God was like okay,now you guys are ready, doors
opened up.
You moved down to Florida, youhad a place to stay, you had a
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job waiting for you and crazything is what?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
you was 21 21, starting a new career as a
hairstylist.
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
It's a wild, that's wild.
But people say yo, how did youguys do that?
I remember.
Now, here I am, this is wild.
Here I am a whole year later,2008 fall time, flying out to
kokomo, indiana, to drive youdown to West Palm Beach, florida
(33:33):
.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
So, all in all, you really just went to Bible
college to find me.
I did.
It was like you were only therefor one semester and it was
only so that our paths wouldcross, and I a hundred percent
believe that.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, and here we are , all these years later, I still
love you.
You're still the one I chooseto love you, because love, the
feeling of lust, the feeling ofgoo-goo, gaga, cloud nine, that
stuff fades away it comes andgoes At this point.
It's a choice and I choose tosay you're the one that I'm
going to continue to love.
I still remember those dayswhen we first met.
(34:08):
I still remember those dayswhen we first met.
I still remember the days whereI'm just like yo she's the one
and you're still the one.
We went through some tough timeswhere I'm like man, I don't
think she the one anymore.
I don't think she the oneanymore.
It's so true, this one righthere, lord, just like Adam said
to God, it's the woman, god,that you gave me.
You guys see all these grayskicking in in my beard right now
, the sparkles are comingthrough.
(34:29):
No, it's the glory of God.
Right there it's the sparklesOkay.
But you're the one, you're theone, you're the one that I love.
It's crazy man.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
It's crazy.
It's been such a wild ride andI'm so grateful that we get to
share this story.
And there's so much more wecould dive into.
We could dive RV parked insomebody's backyard with the
little baby cockroaches not thebig ones, but the little ones.
There's so much.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
There's some topics of like things to do while
dating, dating to marry.
There's another conversation tohave of like dating the one
dating the one Right.
There's differences, like whenyou're just dating, knowing that
you're looking for the one, andthere's when you're dating the
one, and you know they're theone.
Because there's different stuffthat we have to apply For sure.
Merging families, merging myfriends, all those type of
(35:15):
things.
But listen y'all.
We love you guys.
Thank you for jumping in on allthese conversations.
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Just writing a little review,it really helps us and, honestly
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It helps push it out to otherpeople that will find value from
(35:38):
these conversations too as well.
So we love you guys.
We want to encourage you guysto keep on digging.
Life gets better whenrelationships do Relationships
with God, relationships withothers and relationships with
yourself.
Let's dig, let's dig.
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