Cobra Kai - S05E08 - Taikai - Let's Talk - Cobra Kai

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Jason Connell (05:32:48):
Whoa, just carry.
Welcome to Just curious media.
This is let's talk Cobra Kai.
I'm Jason Connell.

Sal Rodriguez (05:32:58):
And I'm Sal Rodriguez. Alright, so

we are back for another episode.

Yes. And the rating goes up with this one.

It does.
Absolutely. And it's a reallyfun episode. Season Five,
Episode Eight. Cannot wait tobreak it down of Cobra Kai. But
first, a shout out to all of ourfans who continue to leave five
star reviews on Apple podcast.

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We are going I've said this afew times already to do more fan
appreciation episodes after theseason. And I cannot wait to
share some of these witheverybody including yourself.
You haven't read them becausethey're fantastic. No, you know,
Jason, I was gonna ask I sentthem to you. So

you send most of them to me. But I was going to
ask you before we startedrecording, I was going to ask
you what you foresee as ourfirst episode outside of the
season once the season's wrappedup? What do you see as our first
special episode and I'm kind offeeling pressured now to do a a
fan episode a fan appreciationepisode after all this.

Well, we could start there. I mean, that is a
wonderful place. It's a goodreset for us. We haven't done
one for a while. So that may bea wonderful place to start
because we could book into itbefore we got into this season.
We had the three Patreonsuperfans on so what a wonderful
way to book in this so I thinkSal we have said it. It is going

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to be a fan appreciationepisode.

Me and my big mouth it is official.

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So we have to thank Netflix for bringing us
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September 9 2022. This is seasonfive, Episode Eight, tai chi,

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and a very fitting name for thisepisode. Stay tuned.

Yeah, yeah, very interesting episode because it
all relates to Tai Chi Tai Chi.

The rating for this episode, as you alluded to
is higher from last week and itis 8.5 on IMDb. Yes, very good
rating. The synopsis for thisepisode is a coveted spot in an
elite international tournamentignites a fight between dojos
Tori's loyalties are tested. Samstruggles to let Miguel go. Oh,

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juicy. I gotta say. Well, Sal,it is time to break this down on
our scene by scene breakdown.
Are you ready?

I'm ready. And you know what I would ask anyone
who's listening or watching todo what I did with this episode.
I really felt like I had to payattention

to the first time ever. I mean,

a little more than normal. I mean, you know, I
may have a little touch of theadd I may have a touch of the
add

weight of Cinnamon, cinnamon Asia, you're
in trouble cinnamon

Asia and a little add and a little vodka whiskey
there. And hello. But I I reallyfelt like I had to just like
really like hang on toeverything in this episode. And
in the end, I was very pleasedthat I did so and I would I
would ask other people to do so.

Yeah. Well, when I went through for notes, it
took me a while it's dense.
There's a lot of great dialogue.
There was so much to unpack.
Hacking. So yeah, it's almostlike it becomes the length of
breaking down a movie as we getlater into the Season and Season
Five at that. We're takingeverything from season one and
just pulling it with us andgrabbing new stuff the whole
time. So it is a lot and I'mexcited that we're coming up on

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episode eight man. We're twoaway from the finale but right
here and now let's jump in toTai Chi. I'm ready. So we opened
it Cobra Kai and a limo arriveswas distinguished members of
Sekai Tai Chi, led by GuntherBraun, who is a Danish actor in
real life played by well, he isCarsten Norgaard. And you may

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recall him from D to MightyDucks to he played wolf, the
dentist stansson, who was theIcelandic coach that battles are
famous ducks, and I didn'trecognize him from that. I did
see that movie many, many, manyyears ago. So I looked it up as
like, of course, because thisguy is great. He is fantastic.

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And is the only one that speaksfor the Tai Chi ever.

That's true. He is the man in charge, it seems,
or at least the man in charge ofthe delegation,

right? Yes. So So just as creased shared with
Johnny and Daniel in theprevious episode. He indeed did
share Silver's plan and it iscoming to fruition here. It
wasn't just BS. This is a truething. The Sekai tai chi, and
it's amazing to see it unfoldbefore our very eyes.

Yeah, because we have already heard about this
now, even though this did happenin the past, but happened in the
past of Cobra Kai. Not in thepast a karate kid,

right? Yeah. But then Silva goes on to say what?

Karate gave my life structure, function,
purpose. And it's doing the samefor my students. I only want to
spread its lessons further. Giveevery kid the chance to learn
and grow through karate, justlike I did.

So he's sharing this to Gunther and the rest of
the committee because he's justfeeding the silver ramblings the
BS his ideology, and trying towin them over because he
probably flipped the bill to getthem here much like he did with
Kim and her crew because youknow, no expense spared for
silver. But just as severalmakes this claim that Cobra Kai

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is the best dojo in the valley,which we hear a lot lately.
We've heard that a few times onrecent episodes, but who arrives

I was surprised I thought Terry was gonna go along
on his sales pitch. And yeah,all of a sudden inside the Cobra
Kai Dojo walks, Daniel whointroduces himself as to time
all Valley champ Gianni whointroduces himself as to time
all Valley champ chosenintroduces himself as master
Sensei and they bow and Amanda.
Yes, and Amanda says karateadjacent yet with a very awkward

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bow. Right.

So good, Amanda.
I love it. Yeah,

well play that.

And that only she didn't get the bows from the
committee but whatever. Reallyfunny. And then Gunther and Tai
Chi decide to have each DojoCobra Kai and Miyagi dough slash
Eagle thing. Do an exhibition tosee if they are worthy. And so

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Johnny wants to do what withSilver's ponytail, after all
said and done.

Yeah, Johnny says, A show that ponytail up
your ass. Which I thought was aninteresting choice. Like I could
imagine saying like, I'll cutthat ponytail off or something
or burn that ponytail off. Shoveit up.

Yeah, I also noticed there's the images that
term throughout the episode. NotNo, not that but asses. He's
gone. He's telling the kids tomove on me. I was like yeah,
well look at Johnny go. He'sreally unleashing this episode
with that term. So yeah, so Idon't know where Silver's not
happy. Cobra Kai is you know notbested but they took a little

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Limelight away from them havingMiyagi illegal fam show up and,
and yeah, hey, let's get rainedon rain on their parade right
and Tai Chi doesn't know thedifference. And they make a
strong case. We got some champsin the room. We have a master
sensei from Okinawa. Let's hearthese guys out. Maybe they know
what they're talking about. Sothen we see silver and Kim meet
in the office and she's notpleased now because this is old

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rivalries getting in the way ofher family's destiny. What Silva
sold her on to come over hereand give this thing a shot. But
she acquiesces and agrees tocontinue to train the students
because I thought for a secondshe's out like that's it. You
and Daniel, have your fun. Youand Johnny as well. Now we're

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not in the office anymore. We'reactually in the dojo and Tory
and Devon train in South Devonwants to be what

I She wants to go viral. She wants to go
instafamous

that's a good line instafamous because there's
all this talk going on in thedojo about commercials and this
and that with the trannys.

Yes. Brands brand sponsorship. Yeah.

Devin sharp.
She's on these things.
instafamous she even mentionsYeah, branded partnership could
cover her college. So she'sthinking of these things outside
the box a little bit younger.
And Tori's like, I never eventhought about college. It's like
she's like, an old soul caringfor her sick mother taking care
of her younger brother, althoughwe never see that. More. We
assume that everyone a bityounger. But she's stuck in this

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other reality.

Jason Nachi mentioned where it's toward his
younger brother. He's neveraround, right? Wouldn't he now
be what? How old was in thebeginning? Yeah, he was very
young. He was like a toddler,wasn't he? He should be in Cobra
Kai. By now he's about what hebought kidneys. He

could be a black belt by now. But then Tory has a
flashback to crease in prisonbecause all this is going
through her mind. Right? No oneelse knows that she's doing this
double life. And she's wantingto learn about how long she has
to stay on Cobra Kai, how longdoes this lie have to continue?

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And so she's taking that and allthat's happening. And then she
snaps back to it because Devinslike anything wrong. And then
they go back to training and Igotta say, Devon's kicks. Very
impressive. Getting some niceheight, strength. Good
flexibility. So you can tellthat Devin stepping up and she's
a black belt now. So these kicksshould look that good. But

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something I noticed. Anythoughts?

No. I'm often impressed by nice kicks. Yeah,
at my fitness peak, I'm able tokick someone my height, no
higher, no higher. No higher myheight in the face. Okay.

And you often do that. Yeah, first meetings. So
now we're at Miyagi dough. Andthere's lots of Sekai, Tai Chi
talk and misses from thestudents I should say, from the
students because the word isout. And they're talking about
like, wow, like just see likelast Tai Chi, how high and hard

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the kicks were. And the winterslast year, they went did a car
commercial in Taiwan. So youknow how kids are there to say
this is spinning around theroom, of course outside. And so
when Chris hears of this andsomeone asked him what he would
do with commercial money that hewould have made from such a
thing. What does he say?

Buy a yacht with a hot tub. Fill it with smarties
and hotties. Jason I know whathobbies are. What are Smarties?

Candies? Spark candies? Yeah.

Why would you fill a hot tub with candies?

Because you could? I don't know. Everybody's
laughing. Everyone's having agood time. And Daniel interrupts
he's like, okay, that's too soonfor that. And then he shares
that he Johnny and chosen aregoing to prepare them for the
presentation the next day. Thisisn't like weeks of training. It
is the next day. They need to beon point.

Yeah, well, that will I found kind of kind of
strange. Like, these officialsmake it the next day. They
couldn't give them a couple ofdays, I guess you know, they
gotta get back home becauseCarrie

can only put them up for a day or so. Exactly. But
then Daniel goes on to sharewhat?

Remember Cobra Kai is going to do everything
they can to get a spot. And ifthey win this time, kids all
over the world are going to haveto deal with the same crap you
guys have gone through?

Yeah, it's a lot to think about there. And then
Johnny and Miguel have a quickchat. And Johnny tells Miguel
that he's not going to make himcompete this time. He did that
in all Valley. He learns hislesson. He's not going to do
that. But Miguel is pumped. He'sin. He's feeling good. He's not
worried about Sam their friends.
All's good on that front. Andthen Robert worried about his

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dad and his dad anymore. Yeah,run it out to Mexico. And then
Robbie joins in. And he's kindof messing with Johnny, you
know, like, oh, is this whatfatherly loves sounds like and
so Johnny's getting defensive,but he's just putting them on.
Robbie's cool, they're at peace.
And I love to see these two bondor these three bonds out. I just

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I love it.

Yeah, because when you have people that are
strong, alone, imagine when theyunite, you know, strength and
numbers.

Absolutely. I just think how strong Cobra Kai
is now with both of these guys,let alone the all Valley champ
across the room. Right the otherpart of the dojo but Hawk Eli,
but these two are fantastic. Sothis dojo has gotten so so much
stronger, and we'll get back tothat. So now we have a great

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montage with the members of

Sakai tai chi, and they're

checking out each dojos presentation and we hear a
unchained by Van Halen,

which Van Halen it had David Lee Roth? David Lee
Roth, okay, really

great.

That means it's older, older while they

came back, so

I don't he came back after Hagar. Well, I

think maybe just for touring.

I think he did.
You're right. He came back for alittle bit, but

definitely old school, Van Halen that we grew
up with. Sure. And then Danielgoes on to say, because now he's
talking to Gunther and the wholeTai Chi group. Our students
start with basic movements, weuse chores to create muscle
memory. And once they have thatdown, they can master their
defense. I love that he'scalling it this. I mean, this is

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like, Thank you, Mr. Miyagi.
This is down from the Miyagiverse. Well done.

Jason, I'm laughing because I'm just
imagine, everybody from thisdelegation is they're gonna go
back home, they have all theirkids.

What else do you teach them? What else do you
teach them? Yeah, exactly. Dothe dishes Okay, now. So to set
this up, then he has chosen andJohnny show some of these moves,
but it's great. So chosen is nowstanding with a bunch of
students, and they're allwaiting for his command, which
is,

show me send the floor. And then they all do only
Miyagi,

think about it.
Think about sanding the floor,and I'd circle left circle.
Amazing, but it's not that slow.
This is much faster, a lot ofattitude and a lot of students.
It's not just one on one. Andthen Daniel goes on to say, only
after they mastered theirdefense, do we teach offense.
And now we see Johnny, with someof our players, I believe it's

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Robbie Hawk, and Miguel, maybesome others but what happens
here?

He bounces off Daniels line when he says we
teach offense and Johnny says,but with a badass twist. Show
them the Screaming Eagle.

And they do this move for their corporate Eagle
into it. But you know, they'reshowing a jump kick and a punch
and it has a lot of attitude andbravado. And you know, Tai Chi's
like, All right, yeah, theseguys.

Jason let me share this with you because
we're talking about it. I justsaw a video yesterday, just
yesterday, of a coyote fightingan eagle. Whoa, you know, they
have these nature battles, whichI usually don't like to see. I
don't want to watch it. Yeah,but I happen to catch this. An
eagle kicked the coyotes ass andthen overtook them. It was it

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was pretty horrific. But yeah,eagles are badass.

And that's interesting because a coyote
usually fights in numbers.

No, this one was trying to go one on one. I don't
know why he tried. I don't knowwhy he tried. He was hungry,

silly. So now we cut to Cobra Kai. While the song
is still going on. The montageis still happening. Tai Chi is
now at Cobra Kai and Silva showsGunther the way of the fist.
With Kenny doing what?

Oh, Kenny is kicking ass on the board
breaking right? There's a guy ineach corner. Absolutely. And he
Oh, and then doesn't he trip theguy. He sweeps the leg, gets the
guy his back and then breaks thefloor. I wonder if that guy was
expecting that. I hope he was

he was putting on a board breaking clinic. It was
it was really good. Veryimpressive. Kenny. Less than a
year, one year at Cobra Kai, andhe's the top dog, which is
amazing for Kenny, for sure. ButI'm looking over at the Miyagi
dough, and Eagle Fang students.
The males are really strong overthere in that realm. I would say

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Ken he's like this new guy andhe got Kyler but keen. Diaz
Mosca what's really good overthere. Just

I was wondering like, like, who's the number two
in Cobra Kai? So you got Kennynow I love

taking the Pilar there. Kyle is he hanging on?

He's like way down here. But he's number two.
Yeah. Which oftentimes you maysee in in any given arena. The
number two is not that closebehind one as it as it began.

I'm just showing you the lineage is not as strong
there on the male front anyway.

So I would say no, now, pressure on Kenny

lot of pressure, not a pressure. He's too young
to know better. So now Danielgives a history lesson on the
Miyagi, Okinawan karate, whichdates back 400 years and south.
Johnny takes over a bit.

Oh, Johnny tells the great story which we've all
heard before. About shrimp. Oh,sensei. Fishing love Saki bombs.

Now, Daniels like

Wait also, isn't it? Isn't it Shimpo sensei? It's
shrimp. Shrimp. Shrimp. OhSensei, which sounds like it'd
be a great dish somewhere.

Absolutely. Well, this is a great transition from
Miyagi dough to Cobra Kai butDaniel starts with to solve the
problem of the present we mustalways

And then they cut to silver who says, look to the
future? Is that what Daniel wasgonna say? Or was Dan you're
gonna say we must always look tothe past.

I'm not sure but I like it. Yeah. Silver's very
future thinking. Daniel is veryreflective. So good call there,
Sal. But, but it's still a nicesegue really nice. And now we
see because we're staying inCobra Kai. We're seeing state of
the art equipment as Kyler kicksa smart bag, which is straight
out of Ivan Drago is trainingscenes from Rocky four. And Sal,

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have you ever seen are trainedon such a smart back?

You know, the only thing I've done is those
like at the carnival they havethose now smart punching. Yeah,
yeah, you get to see. But no,you know, I've seen these bags
I've seen I think our discoverychannel does these these special
shows? Yeah, they'll havefighters come on. Boxers come on
MMA guys come on, and kick andpunch and then it measures their
pounds per square inch. Justlike yeah, and rocky for right.

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Yeah. And I always thought Oh,so you know, we've talked about
this before. I love tech when itcomes to fitness. I love the
integration of tech and if youcan use it. Yeah, I'm a big fan.
So I know I would love to kickone of these bags but have not.
Okay, so have you use one ofthese?

No, no, I have to go to Drago type gym or a Cobra
Kai near me. And if that's notenough, rocky for for you now
Red Eagle thing let us notforget about the old school
Eagle Fang dojo, and Sal. Yeah,that's right. It's low tech city
here. But what do we see?

There's a watermelon

or motivate up a chair.

It's like saw or something. Yeah, like or like
Texas Chainsaw and Sam kicks uswatermelon. And then it breaks
all over Gunther and right atfirst we're thinking that he's
gonna be like, You guys suck.
Yeah, I'm out.

The hell is this?
No, but

no, he was he was okay with Yeah,

this leads to Johnny actually referencing
rocky four and saying thatsometimes you have to train
outside the box to get toanother level. Some people use
the latest high tech junk to getthere. And some people need to
run up a mountain in the snowand yell

and Gunther I did not see this. Gunther yells out
drag. Oh, oh. And he says rockyBaba is my hero. His victory
over Russia effectively restoredmy fractured homeland. So you
can speculate where Gunther isfrom maybe some were part of the
former Soviet Union. Maybe?
Yeah, maybe. But yeah, so his.

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It's funny. Yeah, his hero wasrocky Baba, not Ivan Drago.

Johnny is floored to hear this he has a blood
brother here amongst him. Andit's great. This is so funny.
When I saw this for the firsttime I just thought I cannot
believe the show went here bravoto you show. But then we cut to
Daniel who's just like, can'tbelieve it. Like he thought for
a second that watermelon. It'sover or out and then these two

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bond, thickest thieves. Soreally funny. And now we see
Gunther and company speaking toeach dojo, and they've decided
that each Dojo should fight eachother in direct competition. And
so what's the format for thesefights? Exactly.

Each Dojo must select two fighters one female
one male. And this fight ishappens the following afternoon
in separate three point matchesthe following afternoon at three
how much preparation are yougetting? Nothing?

Well, I don't know if it's at three, but it's
definitely

I thought it was actually reason.

Whatever it is,

why don't I hear three o'clock I thought I heard
three like three o'clock highswhen I'm thinking

exact Great show.
Great movie, I should say. Yeah,this is the format that we know
there are different formats thisday and age. It's a clock and
you just have a running clockgoes to like two three minutes
and you get as many points asyou can. But this is the classic
Karate Kid three points, whichis also an all Valley on Cobra
Kai. So this is essentially whatall Valley did. You know, they

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had the female group they hadthe male so you pick one of your
fighters, one male, one female.
Each will fight in a match forthree points. As I just said,
though, the Cobra Kai areundermanned. When it comes to
the male side, female side it'spretty obvious it's a toss up.
It's Tory and Sam that's theirstrongest and they're both

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great. But on the other side,I'd say advantage Miyagi dough
Eagle Fang, but we'll get intothe selection later in this
episode, which I kind ofquestioned, but whatever it is
what it is. And then they willdecide Tai Chi that is, if any
of the winners will be invitedto Tai Chi just in this

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competition. So it's not a donedeal. They want to see this
happen and then they still holdthe rights to give invitation to
either both are none. And that'sinteresting.

It's almost a formality because they didn't
even go there expecting to dothis, this delegation from Sakai
to chi was not expecting no toput on a tournament. So they
threw it all together then lastmet themselves. They're probably

very reluctant to come in the first place. But of
course Silva wooed them, I'msure he flew them over and a
private jet. All that somestates and we're nice day
somewhere nice. anything ittakes.

I like how some of the members or at least one
of the members of the delegatewere like a clipboard. Yeah.
Like what is he? What is hewriting? Like? Nice kick,

like Yeah, nice.
You write him a nice hair.

Nice Mohawk nice hair on his Hawk guy.

Now it does pain me. So to have them say that.
This Tai Chi is much bigger thanall Valley. I get it. It is but
it's just, I don't like whensomething chips away at the
armor of this sacred thing tous, like all sudden, finishes
the valve? Well, it doesn't itdoesn't. It does in some context

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to say hey, there's always beenthis other thing over here
behind your ear. And we didn'ttell you about it until now. And
it's the Tai Chi Oh, okay. But Iget it because the stage and you
kind of its grandeur, but yeah,I just thinking of that didn't
sit well with me. But that'sjust me. Well, I'm just don't

know if if anybody follows professional
bodybuilding as I used to, notsomebody I used to as well.
Yeah. Okay. So you have the Mr.
Olympia, right? Every buddywants Mr. Olympia, you want to
be Mr. Olympia. But along theway you got you know, Mr.
Universe, you got Mr. USA, youhave the Arnold Classic. So you
have these other lesserpromotions that are very

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important and fantastic to puton your resume. But there's not
the Olympia. Right. Yeah. Sothey're all in the shadow of the
Olympia. So now it's almost likethe valley itself will be now in
the shadow of sick high Tai Chithink.

In some respects yet. We don't know how often
this is. Is this like theOlympics or the World Cup? Is
that every four years like giveme more? How long has it been
going on? Yeah, we have nobackground. We don't know
enough. And that's the showinvented this device. Because
they can do another all Valley Iget it. And it's a smart device.
But it came out of nowhere. Andit was it was a way to do

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something new as opposed to justhaving, you know, home
invasions. I get it. I totallyget it. But yeah, let me know.
Like, like it's every 10 yearsor something even less often.
Yeah.

But now I wonder based on what we're talking
about, if we ever will indeedsee another all Valley at this
point. Now. I'm, I'm notexpecting it now after this,
right? Because again, this putsnow the prominence and the
emphasis on Sekai Tai Chi, notall Valley.

And we've had five seasons of Cobra Kai and
only had two all valleys butthere's not one this season. So
let's just say the first fourthere was two. So we're not due
for one for what? until seasonsix. We may never have a new all
Valley. Our Tai Chi is yeah,this does raise the stakes. So
whatever season six is, it's awhole new high. For sure. In

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fact, it's on TV.

Let's just say this. Jason, I think at this
point, every fan of Cobra KaiPlace your bets if we will ever
see another valley again.

And how many dojos are left in the valley?

Yeah, after being swallowed up by Cobra caught
Yeah, this is not looking goodfor the valley. It's not why I
hold on to my precious allValley Karate Kid action figures
to peck more than ever now.

I was gonna say hang on to all your gear. If you
guys went to all Valley and havesome of the shirts, keep them.
If you have the old programs andticket stubs. Keep them. Yeah, I
love it. I've got a littletrophy. Oh, it's down in my near
my gym that you gave me the allValley tiny mini. I have that
guy hanging out of that. So nowwe're at Cobra Kai and silver

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picks because he's picking hisstudents to go in this fight
nickels, and pain. And that putssome pressure on Kenny so to
speak. And he even tells him sosilver actually puts more
pressure on him and he says thefate of this dojo rest in your

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fist. He was like, I know he'syoung. And it's maybe the
moments not too big for him. Butit's like this isn't helping. Go
over and tell him. Hey, you knowwhat? It's all on you, buddy.
But Kenny has only been inkarate for less than a year. So
I would say he's a prodigy. Muchlike Daniel. I'm assuming we
would say that about

I would I would say that. Yeah, I was thinking
the same thing. Yeah. But now

he's got to save the dojo. So I don't know your
thoughts on this. But I thinkit's a lot. I think it would
have downplayed that and heknows he has a ringer and Tory,
but not to say that she's goingto beat Sam because that's a
coin flip. But he's got as goodas it gets on the female side.

No, I agree. I mean, this is a lot of pressure
on Kenny. I wouldn't have donethis to Kenny. Yeah, I would
have tried to groom some moreguys. You know, it's like they
haven't groomed enough guys atall.

Exactly. For as many places have gobbled up.
They don't have Xander stone,you know type.

Yeah, exactly.
How about that if you're goingto be scooping up a superstar
and

this person was a runner up and all Valley two
years ago. Yeah, they haven'tgot any the cream of the crop.
That's what they should bedoing. Yeah. But we've
established Kenny as acharacter. So I get it. We've
just pushed him forward.

He's got the rage right now.

He's got he's got that he's

got that rage the Cobra Kai laughs right.

That's exactly right. So now we're in prison,
and Tory visits crease. Andshe's asking him what she should
do, because now there's atournament with more on the
line. And I didn't see thiscoming. But crease advises her
to look after herself and forgetabout their plan to take down

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silver. Now, so these are newmarching orders, for sure.

Well, one thing I want to increase to say was,
because I think what Chris istrying to tell her is forget
about what I want. Forget aboutwhat silver was forget about
what the Russos want. What doyou want? Yeah, right. I think
that's what he was trying tosay. But it didn't come out
right now. So I think, you know,yeah, that's how she took it.
But I took it as him saying, Dowhat's best for you. That's what

(06:04:19):
I thought he was saying.

Yeah, he also knows their plan isn't going to
get him out of prison anytimesoon. So he's, he's thinking
about himself. He's pivoting.
And I don't want to look aheadbecause we both seen it. But
that's kind of what's going on.
And I think he cares about Tori,to a point as much as crease can
care. As much as he's able tocare. This crease that happened

(06:04:43):
in the mid 80s. Not the kid butI think he cares 1980 Who cares?
But

83 or before 84 afternoon, but you know, Chris
has never had a daughter that weknow about. Right? Yeah, it's
possible. Tory's? Like thegranddaughter he never had the
daughter he never had. Yeah,here I go giving Chris some
sympathy and benefit of thedoubt again, wow,

wow. But toy feels cheated for trust increase
or anyone else for that matter.
And she storms out, as Torytends to do.

And by the way, adjacent I just want to mention
you every time they go back tocrease in jail. I keep thinking
of the show. I'm watching onNetflix. Oh world's toughest
prisons. I see this show onNetflix. They go all over the
world. The host of the showserved 12 years in prison. And
then it got himself off and hisname cleared. But he did serve
12 years and now this guy is ahost of the world's toughest
prisons show goes all over theworld to all these prisons. So

(06:05:39):
I'll say after watching thatshow and watching crease easily
like in a cushy prison. Oh,stuff. It's telling me this
stuff you see in like SouthAfrica or Costa Rica you

can imagine MAN Yeah, no, it's it's like club
met. Not much going on it towardkids.

No jello at those other prisons. They got no no
jello at the Bangladeshi prison.
They got no jello there.

I bet they do not. So now we're at La Russo's
house and the students arehaving a sausage pizza and
they're razzing each otherbecause it's pretty funny. It is
funny because before we get intothe next part of this scene,
Mitch is commenting on the factthat there's no it's true. They
are light on women. Cobra Kaihas more because they've gobbled

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up all these other dojos butMiyagi dough Eagle Fang are
definitely light on women. Andso Mitch is making a comment

they got one woman right Sam Sam said that
one exactly. So no, I liked it.
This was mentioned because youcould almost say it's the
elephant in the room in a waythat there is only one woman in
only one girl officiallyremember they're minors. Right
officially, only one girl in thewhole dojo, which is odd and I
don't know why they haven'ttried to recruit any other
girls. Oh, they had well theyhad last night Devon Yeah, they

(06:06:54):
had Devon. They had Piper forwhat? 10 minutes while they
tried

to get Piper and then she bailed. Okay, so they
have tried, Johnny tried. But itis funny because Burton them are
giving him crap. Like, Hey,isn't this enough sausage for
you penis breath. And so yeah,it's all it's hygienic. Since he
was like, they're like theimmature of the dojo. They're
like the middle schoolers if youwill. Yes. But they're not but
really funny. But then this goesinto this other part of the

(06:07:21):
scene which is in the livingroom. And I love this scene as
Johnny addresses Robbie, Migueland Eli are is it Hawk again?
No, wait that fish that Hawk yetofficially uncaged his Hawk
later in this episode, so holdthat and Johnny says what to
them because they're all sittingyou know, waiting because they

(06:07:42):
also have to pick their mail.
And here's your top three dogs.
And Johnny gives this speechwhich is fantastic.

All right boys, we have a choice to make, and
it's not going to be easy.
You're all badass fighters butonly one of you can get on the
mat tomorrow. All right hawks,the current all Valley champ
could have gone either way. Diazis last year's champ that could
have gone either way too. Eventhough hockey did Robbie in the
semis. Hawk didn't have to fightin the semis this year because
Diaz looked at to Mexico. Pointbeing you're all deserving.

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Alright, LORUSSO chosen and Iare having a hard time deciding
which one of you should go upagainst Cobra Kai. Maybe we
should just flip a coin.

And then he goes on to like, hey, how would that
work? There's three of us willflip a coin.

What you'd have to do is you have to have what
Hawk against Miguel flip thecoin? Yeah, whoever wins that
what you'd have to do? Yeah,

but Johnny's lost on it. He wants to flip three
coins and thinking. But thataside, Robin Miguel step up,
because they've already decidedthat it should be Hawk, Eli,
because he was last year's allValley champion. As Robbie said,
he beat me fair and square,although Robbie could have won.
So he's been runner up twice.
And so it's interesting, I lovethat they do it in the hawk

(06:08:58):
takes to it now, Eli's happy andhonored by this. But if this is
Tai Chi, the world of Cobra Kaiis coming. Cobra Kai is the
opportunity to take over andthis is the chance to defeat it
defuse it before it happens. I'mnot going to play nice. I'm
going to pick the best person towin that match. So Sal, I'm

(06:09:20):
gonna throw it to you first. Whodo you pick? Who would you pick?
If the choice was yours?

Well, I think we have to go by track record,
which includes the last fightbetween Miguel and Robbie,
unofficial fight if you had tochoose because this is sort of a
make or break fight, right?
Yeah, go with Miguel. You gottago with Miguel.

Okay, so I pick Robbie. He's been real. He's
been in that place twice, losingin the semis, right or no
becoming second losing to theeventual winner. And he has a
lot of experience. And I thinkthat he sees what's at stake and
can raise to the level. Miguelhad the injury, Miguel also
sometimes doubts himself andgets distracted. So I would pick

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Robbie in this instance for awinner take all now, as I said
recently, him and Miguel fight10 times I do believe it would
be five five. I think if eitherone of them were fighting hawk
or Eli 10 times they would beathim more often than not.

Well, hang on.
Didn't probably bail at onepoint. Right. Didn't he leave?
It wasn't he didn't leave it allValley. Leave it? Right.
Exactly. Okay, so Miguel bailedout of the all Valley when he
went to Mexico. And then we hadno Samantha never bailed. Tori
now has bailed by. slowdown. Oh,gosh, she

hasn't No, she hasn't. No, she has nothing

erase, erase do undo. The point is the point is,
are you saying like Robbie isnot only a good fighter, and
most likely to be able to win,but also reliable? Is that what
you mean? Like he's sort ofmore.

I'm not saying Miguel is not I just think he's
been more distracted lately.
That's all that's like he couldbe in that fight for everything.
And then he can look at Sam acertain way. So he's not like a
prize fighters like reallyfocused and can't have sex. And
I just think Rob is more dialedin. And he's more aligned with
everything right now. Like, thisis what's going on. We gotta

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win. Yeah, I just think he's inthat place. Now that could
pivot. We've seen crazy Robbie.
And Miguel is more centered. Butright here right now. I'm
picking Robbie, let's go winthis fight. But they didn't do
it for a reason. And we'll getinto that later. And it was the
right choice for the show whatthey wanted to achieve. But I
would have picked him and ofcourse, I'd pick Sam. There's no

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other choice. Let's see just upby default, Mitch in a wig and
making ladybugs.

Yeah, so coin toss first. There you go. No.

So now we're at Miyagi dough, because this was
at La Russo's house, as Iestablished, and it's nighttime.
And Samantha is training withDaniel and chosen and Sal, she
is focused. Speaking of focus,she is locked in.

Nobody's in a relationship right now. Right. I
think that counts for a lot.
That's true. You know, when I'vestudied a lot of fighters,
whether it be boxers or MMAguys, and you look at some of
these guys records, and you seewhen they start losing, and then
you read about their personallife, and you see they were
having marital problems at thetime. You can track a lot of
that. I would say if you'regoing to be fighting in
competition, it's probably bestto be single, or have the most

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perfect relationship that doesnot distract you or cause you
any heartache. So right now,right, nobody's ending the
relationship, right? There's noyoung love right now at the very
moment. I think that's good. Ilove love guys. I love love, but
I also want to win. Well, I wantfive Just to be focused I really
do,

as do I, but Sam is concerned and she wants to
keep training but they insistshe rest because this is the
next day and yeah exactly theydon't have time to recover if
you hit one thing wrong and andchosen then shares what he was
fighting against in his man withDaniel, this was huge.

While I almost cried, it was great, I almost
cried my way over something tomy eye.

And he says Daniel was fighting for, for
friends for village for Miyagison, and really chosen wasn't he
was fighting against everything,his own image what his uncle
thought about him. So there yougo, if you're fighting for some
sort of cause bigger than you,it says it all and I love that

(06:13:38):
insight. And I know you do too,because it nearly brought you to
tears and I was really choked upand of course, I'm already
loving chosen when he drops hiswisdom, even more so. And when
Sam walks away, Sabri, she takesus in, she understands and they
rap, but she walks away on ahigh and ready a focused

(06:13:59):
fighter. What did she find?

What did she go down a tire shoe is what she
does. And she looks on theground. And she finds the little
Pulpo, the little octopusnecklace that Miguel had thrown
down on the ground when Sam saidshe needed space, right or
needed some time to reflect orwhatever she told him. And he
left in tears. He threw thenecklace down. Yep. And now she

(06:14:24):
finds it the little Pulpooctopus necklace, which harkens
back to their beautiful date atgolf and stuff where they want
the octopus plushie.

But she immediately knows she put it
together. Oh, Miguel broughtthis and he probably threw it
down in that moment at all justprobably registered, which
doesn't help a fighter focusnow. Does not. But it happened.
You

know what, though? Let me go back for a
second of what you said aboutMiguel. Because you know what?
Miguel should have taken thenecklace back to the store and
gotten his money back. Right.
Instead, he did something veryemotional, which I can
understand. I've been there.
Yeah. But he should have donesomething, you know, using his
head a little more or less ofhis heart. And taking the
necklace back. So yeah, I goback to what we said last couple

(06:15:09):
scenes. Yeah, Robbie should havebeen chosen. And that's no
offense to hawk by the way.

Okay, you're changing your vote.

Yeah, I'm saying I agree with you. I think that
they should have chosen Robbieto represent Miyagi. And not
Miguel. And no, no disrespect tohawk. But yeah, I think it
should have been Robbie orMiguel and now I changed my
answer to rob. Fair enough.

I thought you might see it that way. Okay, so
now we're at Cobra Kai, samenight, because Kenny has the pre
fight jitters. And he's alsotraining late but alone solo.
But then Silva joins him andshares that, that he used to be
called What Sal back in the day.

Back in Vietnam, he was called twig. While we say
back in Vietnam. He didn't saythat.

We remember that.
We also saw Yeah, this

is true. Because what is what is the other guy
say to him? Get some muscle onthis tree branches and we'll
talk right. Like what if to callme twig?

That's great. And then he also says what?

LORUSSO Lawrence D is keen. They've all had their
time in the sun. Now it's yourturn. manipulation. He

puts the pressure on Kenny now here he is pumping
him up. This is what he shouldhave been doing. He's hearing
this like, oh my gosh, wow. Allright, I'm buying this. And then
just like in the Karate Kid,Part Three. When we learn the
quick silver method, classic. Wenow learn about silver bullet.

(06:16:43):
And not Coors Light. Mind yousell. Or the 1985 horror movie
starring Gary Busey and CoreyHaim which I love by the way,
Silver Bullet Great. Is

that about a werewolf? Yes. Written by
Stephen King.

I watched it every Halloween or at least the
last few I got to see it. Butno. So please enlighten us on
what exactly a silver bullet is.

I feel like we're just why are we just learning
about this you know, as fans,but what the silver bullet is,
is this very hard striker thathas sort of this sort of a
almost looks like a ceremonialpreparation. Yeah. And what it
does is it is a very hard strikebetween your opponent's ribs,
their ribcage, which will belike the sternum Right? Which

(06:17:26):
will take their breath away. Andnot like in a good way like take
my breath Oh,

Berlin tomcod.
And

yeah, not like that. Not that yeah, not long in
a bad way. Annabelle.

And then Silva says what about this method,

the shortest distance to victory and a fight
is to take Got your opponentwith one shot? It's true. Yeah.
And if you pay off the judges,you can do whatever the hell you
want.

Because kid is a little bit reluctant, which is
nice to see. He's got a littlebit of a conscience. He's like,
wait, they already scored apoint. Why would you hurt them?
And that's when silver dropsthis line about one shot in in a
fight. And so you know, Kenny'sjust picking everything up. He's
a sponge like, Okay, wow, yeah,the Dojo is relying on my fist.

(06:18:16):
It's my time to shine. Here's away to win. All of its going in
and he is definitely beingmanipulated. That is for sure.
The Cobra Kai way. So now westay at Cobra Kai, but it's the
next day it's presentation day.
And Miyagi done first. I was alittle bit like wait a second,
but we'll get to that Miyagidough Eagle Fang students are

(06:18:39):
arriving. And I love that Burtonthinks they've entered eight.
This is hilarious, a cobrastarship? Because it does look
so futuristic. And there's CobraKai stuff everywhere. And Mitch
is liking the girl ratio here.
So

yeah, how about that at his dojo? You got one
girl who's kind of almostofficially spoken for. Yes. And
yet you go to this other dojoand there's like cute girls
hanging out at the smoothie bar.

Exactly. It's so funny. But I do think it's a
little unfair. And I say alittle I mean a lot to let Cobra
Kai have a home court advantage.
But they do have regulationmats. So what do you got?

Well, this would have been an exterior scene,
right? If they shot it on Miyagidough. That's the truth is it
should have been in a neutraldojo. Right. It should have been
on all Valley. How about therethe valley location? How about
Zeno? Right? Yeah, yeah, you'reright. It is sort of a homecourt
advantage. But we'll see how itall pans out.

So now we see shots of Sam and Tory, as well
as Anthony Anna ghee. And thankgoodness, he's got a white belt
on. Because if he had a blackbelt, I'm telling that's it.
That would have been it for me.

If Miyagi were alive today. Anthony Lusa would
have a black belt.

No, no, we argue would be so proud of Anthony for
joining the dojo. And then Kimtells Tori to make this a quick
fight. Okay, fair enough. Kennyarrives. And sizes up Hawk
crossed the dojo who's now gotwhat color Mohawk?

He's got a green Mohawk. We've never seen this
before. Right? Oh, it's money.

Okay, I can sell money over there. And then sell.
He sees Robbie talking toAnthony. And what happens?

Yeah, um, while he's upset that Robbie was
essentially training his bully,right. Anthony Russo was Kenny's
bully. And now Robbie istraining him as if I'm a

real threat to him. He's bullied him more than
he ever bullied him

anymore. And Robbie tries to reason with him
about the dark side of CobraKai. Right. He's trying to give
them these warnings repeatedly.
But Kenny's not having it atall. No,

no, he's getting ready to fight. So Kenny walks
away. And then Hawk kind ofoverhears this, because now
they're starting to buddy buddyup, right? They're getting along
great. And toxic. Robbie tellinghim he'll take care of Kenny but
Robbie asked him this is not agood time here for this either.
Not to go too hard on himbecause, you know, it's Cobra

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Kai talking. It's silver talkingnot Kenny. And Eli gets that.
But never. And I mean, neverunderestimate your opponent.

No, you know what, I didn't catch that. And
now I'm kind of wondering. Yeah,he shouldn't have said that to
him. Not that I could haveknocked their hook because it
affected him.

Let him go in there with all the bravado and
let him go in there. And whenhandedly I'm not saying that's
what happened. But it didn'thelp. It didn't help. He lowers
his guard just a little bit insome happens. And that that's

essentially saying, you're telling the
fighter. Don't go all out. Don'tgo 100% Don't leave it all out
there on the mat. You're, you'retelling them to kind of diminish
yourself. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

undervaluing Kenny like Yeah, listen, he
doesn't mean when he says hesaid that to he's young. And
they don't know he has beentraining. He is a prodigy. And
so you have to take it seriousagain. I think all three of them
are stronger. But hey, a fighterthree points. That's it. It
doesn't mean the best fighteralways wins. I mean, let's go

(06:22:27):
back to the Karate Kid. I thinkJohnny Lawrence was the better
fighter, but he was bested byDaniel Lawrence in that
tournament. I mean, I thinkDutch may be a better fighter,
but he was overconfident and gotbeat by Daniel. So that day
Daniel was the better fighterbut it doesn't mean you'd win in
a street fight. So you have tobe very careful. And those types

(06:22:52):
of things, especially when thebreaths are so now Gunther and
Tai Chi arrive and they'rerunning the presentation. And
much like the last all Valley,the boys go first, which is
cool. I like this. And it's Hawkverse Kenny. And Kenny scores a

(06:23:15):
quick point off a roundhouseone. No, right here, so boom. So
think about this Hawk spy likeanyway, say, what was this? So
then Hawk hits Kenny with areverse spinning back hill, and
it's a wicked kicks out, hitshim in the face. But just like
in Sam and Tori's match and allValley, what happens?

All of a sudden, the ref calls Kenny out of
bounds. And he says, no point.

No point, right?
Yeah, no point. And to clearly apoint. So I'm thinking, Wait,

the ref calls Hawk out of bounds. Oh, wait,
did he call kill me? He was outof bounds. Okay, so you get
kicked, but you're out ofbounds. The other person doesn't
get to score what he

was saying he was out of bounds first. Like out of
bounds and the kick happen,which it didn't happen that way
that didn't happen and allvalley with the other rough. So
Right. Then I thought, wait asecond, did silver get to this
guy because Tai Chi just said,we bring in these reps and you
figure everything's on the upand up here.

But where did they get these reps? They just
put an ad on Craigslist. Theycould get

whoever they want. But silver could still get
to them after the fact. Like,hey, here's a graph. Give me
your second set. Ref.

Yeah, what's your Venmo?

Yeah, what's your Venmo? No point, no point. So
then, then you're flustered. Andyou can let that get to you in
sports, when you get a bad callhappens all the time. So from my
playing, like, wait, you cannotlet it take you out of the game
because you will not get back init. I'm not saying that's what
happened. But again, thesethings are not helping hawk. And
did I not mention that? He isofficially Hawk again?

Yeah, yeah, he declared it. I don't know. Did
we hear that?

Like when we see the eagle Fang van, driving
around,

yeah, you hear the hawk, but by the way,
whatever. I want the hawk actionfigure and they have not
released to my knowledge, anyHawk action figures and

ladder time, matter of time. And then he
could pop on the ELI here aswell.

Yeah, just put it take it on and off.

You know, we were missing this episode. Dimitri,
yeah.

Yeah, Dimitri has kind of been a little Mia the
last couple episodes, it seemslike as we assume he's geeking
out. You know, selling something

out. I wonder if he was filming a movie that can
happen a lot of times if youdon't have that much that

can happen with talent. Yes, that's true. I hope
so. Yeah, I think

something coming up. And I'm sure all of them
will be if not already. So onceagain, we kind of get the sense
Silvers paid off the rep. Idon't think Tai Chi is in on it.
I don't think Gunther that heseems like

they're hinting at it. Because right the rep and
Terry's gonna make eye contact,all suspicious or

he's looking at Silver and she's figured it out
because she's been here before.
And then the fight continues.
And then Kenny pulls a page outof Johnny's playbook from the
Karate Kid and does what

he somehow gets Hawk in this position where he's
able to drop in an elbow and bythe way, in MMA they call this a
six o'clock 12 o'clock elbow or12 o'clock sick pluck elbow,
which is an up and down elbow.
Yep. He delivers an elbow to theback of the knee. It looks like
the back of the thigh.

Well, yeah, cuz Hawk kicks roundhouse kick, he
catches it, he catches it likein the Karate Kid, and when it's
caught, drops it and so it wouldprobably be the side of the
knee. But oh, it looks painful.
It can even be the calf orwhatever it is. It's a lot of
power coming from that elbow.
And not just that the wholeweight all the way down to the
floor. I mean, you could welllet me

just tell you this Jason, the 12 o'clock, six
o'clock elbow, as I justexplained, and as we're seeing
here, is not allowed in the UFC.
You can deliver other elbows butyou cannot do a six o'clock 12
o'clock elbow. I think theathletic commissions officially
call it too dangerous.

I think it's too dangerous for this. Kids here.
So no DQ or a point reduction.
None of that, like we saw in theKarate Kid, Part Three where you
had Mike Barnes to do somethingjust over the top and take away
a point. Okay, he made a pointtake away a point which I have
issues with that too. That'sludicrous in itself that allowed
you to get a point to happen.

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You know, I always had issuewith Daniel just being in the
finals, but that side problem isa major problem. You could get
someone killed. So hot continuesand of course it's Silver Bullet
Time Kenny just learned this.
And Kenny connects with thesilver bullet, knocking the wind

(06:27:55):
out of hock and scoring a pointto Oh, but hot can't breathe and
sound not even 15 seconds later,the refs call in the match.
Like, what happened to the 15Minute karate kid. And I think
it was even like 30 minutes andall Valley. It's over. The ref
was like, Yeah, it's like a fastcountin boxing one to 10 and

(06:28:17):
that's it. It was like, What theheck happened?

Jason I think it's because the the medic
actually came on to the mat,whereas in other series or
movies, they were escorted offthe mat and they didn't need a
rep on the mat. Right? Did theyhave some sort of medical
personnel on the mat before

and the Karate Kid there was an older gentleman
played a doctor he came runningon the mat at first. Okay, so
this has happened before andeven in the credit card, part
three, one Daniel laid in agony,Mr. Miyagi goes and gives me
those inspiring words. I don'tthink had anything to do with a
medic. I think that rep was in ahurry to call the fight and
thinking oh, yeah, it's a 15seconds and this Tai Chi

(06:28:59):
presentation. It's shortenedabbreviated. What Kenny gives
him the victory. He is thewinner. And he also gives Hawk a
new nickname. And Sal, what isthat? For hawk? Adding insult to
injury? He is now faux hawk atthe Cobra Kai dojo.

Oh FAU X mini like fake right? Yeah, fake
Hawk, fake hawk. You're a fullhook.

Really, really tough Kenny, kick a man while
he's down? Again, Had that beenRobbie? But I digress.

Well hang on a second. Jason. You don't think
Robbie would have went easy onKenny if he would have been
chosen to represent Miyagidough?

Well, Robbie's mindset before this match brings
question to mind. Yes, but Ithink that he could best Kenny a
train Kenny. It's almost likefighting your older brother. I
think he has a mental edge orHawk doesn't have. I think some
of that would have come intoplay. And he did best in the
valley. He did best him there.
And I'm not saying the silverbullet couldn't affect Robbie.

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But maybe you wouldn't let itcome to that. So anyway, that's
a whole other story because wemove on. And Tory pulls a Miguel
and vanishes from the dojo.
Because she's seen enough. Sheknows the ref is in on
something. And she doesn't likeit. And she doesn't want to
fight that fight again. She'sgot too much. And Chris said, Do

(06:30:30):
what's best for you. Well,what's best for her in this
scenario is not to relive that.
So Kim appoints Devon to fightin her place. Another prodigy, I
guess you would say she's nowblack. There

was another young lady next to Devin who was not
addressed or referenced. So it'sfunny when when sensei Kim's
like, we have another one andthen you see Devin but you see
the other girl also but notacknowledged. So yeah, Devin is
the number two.

But Dare I ask again? Where is Piper? Can we
have that shirt?

Yeah. Well, she was sending out.

Yeah, exactly.
Social media, but she is not atthe dojo.

She's in the shadows.

So the fight is on. Between Devin and Sam and
Devon's a bit intimidated by Samor Samantha, this rock star and
martial arts, but she's up forthe challenge. Devin wants to be
top dog. So here's a chance. AndSam does a spinning sidekick and
hits Devin beautifully. But Sal,the ref claims it hit her

(06:31:37):
shoulder

no point is that a thing? You're not allowed to
hit shoulders? Yeah,

it wasn't anywhere in like I guess in this
zone so well she hit her in thezone but he's claiming his
shoulder which I did not say

no. And the show itself is hinting at this ref
being paid off again like theprevious all Valley ref it's
teasing us Yeah, we don't knowif that's the case. Well

when he called the short count on talk I
thought oh this is not yourthought again. And then this hit
was an obvious hit so no point

and so so by this point are you thinking that the
ref is in deep value? You areabsolutely yeah. Oh, he was so
obvious.

That did it alone early on the luck was like are
they playing that back? Are theyreally doing this?

So obvious? Well, let me be clear, obvious to us.
Obvious to Terry obvious to theref and obvious to Tory probably
obvious to nobody else.

I'm surprised that of all the fighting that
Tai Chi seen they're not pickingup on it like lame. I

think they'd be a little more educated. Yeah. In
fact, they're like this roof ispretty good. I'm glad we You
found them advance Yeah, how

much we're paying him. Not enough. Not enough.
Well, Sam's also gettingfrustrated. Now she's not gotten
the point that she deserved. Andso Devin, then kick Sam, who
blocks it. And the ref awardsher a point one Oh, so she kicks
it's a block point. And so nowSam is very flustered. She calls

(06:33:12):
timeout, because it's clear andobvious now, Sal that the fix is
in.

You think obvious to everybody?

Oh, yeah. This is it. Something's not right. And
they're playing out in fair. SoSam talks with the team. And
Miguel share some inspiringwords that they're all with her,
you know, got her back. And soshe needed to hear that. And
she's excited by that like shelights up. But then chosen and
Daniel chime in. And they saywhat to her.

Chosen says I started to go into Sato. Chosen
says referee is moron must notleave room for error. And then
Daniel comes right in. He'sright. You make every point
undeniable. So in other words, apublicly everybody can see.
Don't leave it to the judges infighting. I hear that all the

(06:34:05):
time. Don't leave things in thehands of the judges. You don't
want that to happen.

Exactly. Yeah.
And that makes perfect sense. Soyou're not going to score a
glancing blow or even a blowthat he could dismiss or
someone's close to out ofbounds. You've got to make it
decisive. And I like it andshe's good enough to do so. So
now we're back to the fight. AndSam does a spinning Leg Sweep
and then punches Devin in thestomach point one one. The ref

(06:34:31):
almost feels guilty but he's gotto call it a point is like you
know

yeah, look at this. Because it's undeniable.
undeniable. And then Samundeniable. Oh, bam, bam found
out by own

Sam then does a roundhouse a Devon stomach point
to one. Then they have a greatexchange. And Sam's technique is
flawless sell and leads to afront kick to Devon stomach that
throws her way back. Point threeone winner. Sour she needed

(06:35:10):
this. Sam needed this after allValley. And of course Miyagi
dough Eagle Fang and kids allover the world needed this to
Bravo Sam. She won hands down.
And the wrath paid off or not.
could not deny this victory.

No. And of course I'm sure there will be nothing
in his Venmo after aftertonight.

Let's see we've already paid half of it. Who
knows? So Devon goes over andapologizes to Kim, who blames
Tory her leader for bailing andsays it's time to make her a
leader. Oh, wow. Sounds not surehow Cobra Kai stacks up against
the competition with all thesefighters defecting? Sure they

(06:35:55):
have Kenny and Devin, but nowthey've lost Tory. And they've
lost so many more along the way.
The lineage is not good, exceptfor which we talked about
earlier, gobbling up all theseother studios, you know these
dojos these other places, but weshall see. We shall see. So now
the Tai Chi me the SE chi TaiChi meet and the votes are ran

(06:36:17):
and got there comes up andaddresses everyone.

We have reached an agreement. As expected, we
were impressed with the skills,precision and discipline of the
new Sakai Tai Chi qualifier,Cobra Kai. As for our other
dojo, we admired your unusualmix of styles and underdog
spirit. And we think you couldbe a unique addition to the
competition. Therefore, wedecided that your dojo has also

(06:36:47):
qualified

Yeah, there was a long pause after Cobra Kai so
they were able to celebrate andrub it in their face Miyagi in
your face. And they're likeyeah, we're the best but after
that, then he picked it up andexplain that you know, you

know Kyler was talking some jazz if you tell it
was talking some jazz,

but they got theirs because they were also
qualified. And both dojos arecelebrating. Although, I gotta
say Silver's clearly annoyed andprobably out 5k Again for the
ref fee. Unless he doesn't.
Yeah. But Sal Gunther then askMiyagi dough Eagle Fang for
their name. And Johnny steps up

and says, Miyagi dough.

And then Daniel steps up, to be honest. It's not
just one or the other. Werepresent two opposing
philosophies coming together andfinding common ground when none
seemed possible.

And Johnny says That's right. I can change. You
can change. Everybody canchange. Of course, I was trying
to sound a little more rockybubble. Oh, I was. Johnny didn't
say it that way what the wayRocky Balboa was. If I could
change, you could change,everybody can change.

Johnny says that.
He says, This guy gets ittalking together, which he said
earlier about the referencesthis guy gets it and of course
got there. He's so good sizelike I do. But he's still going
to need a name. They have tochoose one name. And we'll get
into that, of course, butbecause we could kind of
speculate, but of course, thisspeech is from Rocky for Rocky

(06:38:28):
Balboa is patriotic speech toeverybody after he beats the
Russian and US and Russia wereat odds then and now. So some
things never change was the ColdWar era. And everyone's like
cheering him and the fight is inRussia. It was not in the US.
And they're applauding him.

Because it was a unifying speech that the whole
idea was, I guess the gist ofrocky speech in that moment was
that we can all strive to bebetter. All of us. Not just
America is not just Russia isnot just boxers, all of us can
strive to be better people.

Absolutely. So you beat Ivan Drago and you can
unite the world. So very good.
But they have time to decide onthe name. We don't have to
decide now. But let me know. Sobetween you and me. Any guesses
on the name?

You know, Jason, I really think that I think we
kind of get a chuckle when wementioned Eagle Fang. I think
everybody does. I don't thinkEagle Fang should really be
taken seriously as the as thename of a dojo it was so come
and go. And yeah, it was it wasduring an intermediary period.
You know, on the other hand, Idon't think Johnny Lawrence has
any ties officially obviously toCobra Kai can invoke the name
anymore. So I think the time hascome and this moment would call

(06:39:44):
for it. Where you do have aunification of Daniel and Johnny
so you have a unification ofMiyagi dough, but not Eagle Fang
and not Cobra Kai. I thinksomething with the name
laurenson it I think it's timeto invoke some sort of Lawrence
karate title that then couldunify with Miyagi dough, so it'd
be like Lawrence, karate Miyagidough type of thing, but I don't

(06:40:07):
think it should be Eagle thing.

LORUSSO Lawrence.
Yeah, well, then

LORUSSO, then Daniel would have to drop the
Miyagi dough. I don't know if hewants to do that.

No, I think it could be Miyagi dough, and then
it could be a LORUSSO andLawrence Inc. or something.

I was even thinking like a law firm.

They're the governing body of Miyagi and I
do agree with you in somerespects, or in most respects, I
don't think Eagle fan can be thename Miyagi dough has so much
rich history. But I was thinkingfor a second that you could have
the logo, and maybe there's justa small part of an eagle
represented on the logo, theMiyagi dough logo, just a little

(06:40:47):
bit of a tip of the cap to it,but I liked the Lawrence and
LORUSSO play, but I'm anxious tosee but I don't think you can
ever lose. Miyagi dough. It isdefinitely your rock, probably.
And I wouldn't want that tohappen. So I like it. Eagle fan
could just become a move. Likeit was yeah,

like the crate

or the drunken monkey. But I agree. Well,
Daniel, thanks everybody, andtells them it's time to
celebrate there's work ahead,but tonight celebrate. And then
Johnny tells Miguel and Robbiethat he's taking Carmen and Rosa
out to dinner and a late movieso they can do what

why it was almost like a wink wink you can host
some friends you can have acelebration party. Yeah, but the
Johnny even for see me they kindof they took over the whole
building if it wasn't just hisunit.

Yeah, he let's throw this party the celebration
that Daniel just mentioned, butI don't think he meant to this
extreme because now we're atreceipt apartments. And there
are a ton of people thanks toMoon who also was not there. I
didn't say we're inviting peoplefrom east valley. Now they go to

(06:42:00):
Valley High School, but theywent slumming.

They went slumming all over North
Hollywood.

Moon just like social media. She does attend
the East Valley. Guys come overhere. Anyway, this place is
booming. And I'm sure theneighbors aren't loving it. But
whatever.

No. Like that neighbor. Remember when that
neighbor came out? I'm sure hewas annoyed by this party. Tell
him that that would be meprobably annoyed by this party
is

who unless you were invited. And then maybe
you'd be cool. I'll stop by fora few minutes. And then MIT
shows that he's got zero gamewith the ladies, which is
hilarious and Hawk sets upMiguel, his buddy with a New
Girl Most Likely from hisfamily. So But this leads to a

(06:42:47):
scene right ate out of a teenmovie or any such movie aren't
even real life. But this scenewe've seen it before, and we'll
probably see it again. But Sal,please describe what happens.

Well, the camera moves over to the alleyway and
we see Sam arriving in a vehiclemost likely in Uber. She says
thank not drive car. Yeah, yeah,she's not driving. She gets
dropped off, goes inside. And bythe way, she's looking great
looking cute. Looks like she'sready to have a great time.
walks in. Right in the corner ofthe room. We see Miguel kissing

(06:43:22):
the new girl who was beingserved beer by Mitch or
awkwardly sort of beer by Mitch.
They're having a little makeoutsession which young people do
the days.

They're not your relationships out there. No,

they're not. They are not Elaine fascia. In fact,
she runs off in tears, which, bythe way, I was little taken
aback that she would have tears.
I could understand kind ofstopping off maybe, but in
tears. I mean, she was

she had what in her hand. Oh, she had the Pulpo

necklace in her hand. Yeah. So she was trying to
I guess, start up again,rekindle. Yeah, Jason, this is
not just a scene out of a movieor Cobra Kai, it's out of sight
out of mind. My life when I wasabout 18 to 21 used to go to the
there was a lot of 18 andovernight clubs, and I used to
really have a great time atthose places. Do they have those
in Tulsa? 18 and over clubs? Oh,yeah. Okay, so great. So what

(06:44:12):
happened was I knew about thisgirl I don't know her name was
Elizabeth or something. I knewshe was going to be at the club
that night. I went and got someflowers like I used to do
probably wrote a poem somethingsilly like that to do you resign
to the club? Ice. Next episode,I walk into this club, small
club. Look into the corner ofthe room. There is Elizabeth

(06:44:34):
smooching with some guy. Now shedidn't know what was coming. She
did not know I was coming. Butthere she was switching some
guy. I had these flowers in myhand. I might have thrown them
on the ground. Like the poponecklace. I might have done
that. Yeah, but I did a stompoff was very sad. We were not
dating. I did like her. Did sheknow I was coming? I might have
told her I might come. Anyway,the point is Samantha Russo.

(06:44:56):
I've been there.

It's tough. It's tough. It's very sad to see you
know, because this is atriumphant night she is supposed
to celebrate tonight and now ourhearts broken again. Not good.
While she's dialing up Uberagain on her phone. So it seems
who arrives

who arrives not in an Uber? Right? We didn't say
she must just walk or cut thebus caught the metro. Tory comes
up out of nowhere unexpectedly.
And then Samantha gears up readyto fight. She's in tears
thinking she's going to fightTorian and Ally now. Yeah, but
no, Tory says I didn't come tofight. I came to talk. You
didn't lose the all Valley Wow.

(06:45:40):
But

wow,

I gotta hand it to Tory,

she couldn't live with it. She got out fighting
her again. Because even if shefought her again fairly and she
did, there would have been anunfair ref and she couldn't
control that. So it was best forher not to do it or she could
have went over and called outthe ref or said I demand a new
ref but she did what she had todo for herself. And she came to

(06:46:07):
now tell Sam about all Valleyand yeah, give it to Tory she's
really turned a corner I used tobe like so anti Tory and my
heart is open and Tory and Icare for her and I like her
growth and I care for everybodyit's just bad timing sometimes
you just want to hang on to thehi I love the episodes that they

(06:46:27):
end with these littlecliffhangers but I just wanted
to breathe a little bit afterthat. And then here comes the
sink so naturally you go to nextepisode. That's what you do.

It ends on cement That's it.

That's it You know so if it wasn't for note to
this podcast I would definitelyjust move right on like I did on
the first viewing. But anyway,great episode setting up what's
to come episode. Clinton andyeah,

Unknown (06:46:54):
fantastically. This was episode eight, eight.
We got two more two more man. Ohmy

god, I'm already starting my grieving and
mourning process right now twomore episodes Wow.

or 80% in and so very close to the end. But what
an episode so much fun Sal. Ireally enjoyed it a lot to cover
a lot to unpack as you get like789 10 they do get longer to I
notice there's great speechesand it's hard to like omit
things and we incorporate a lotof that in the episode to try to

(06:47:25):
make it as enjoyable aspossible. So thank you for going
on this journey with me on thisepisode and I hope our fans and
viewers have enjoyed it and justto to go.

I had a great time. Jason, thank you and I'm
looking forward to the next two.

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