The Karate Kid (1984) - Scene-By-Scene Breakdown (Re-Release) - Let's Talk - Cobra Kai

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Jason Connell (00:01):
Whoa, just curious. Welcome to Just curious
media. This is let's talk CobraKai. I'm Jason Connell.

Sal Rodriguez (00:11):
And I'm Sal Rodriguez.

All right, Sal, we are back for a very, very
special episode and somethingI've been thinking about for
quite some time.

Really? Okay, good. I'm ready.

Any idea what we're doing?

No, I don't. But in the meantime, what's going on
with your background? Yeah,look, everything around you is
completely different. What'shappening.

I am a minimalist, as you know, and
this is living proof. This is aliving.

You ditch every knickknacks

gone. Now I have purchased and installed a state
of the art recording booth. Andit's in my studio.

Wow. So the booth is in the studio booth

in studio, got it create soundproofing. sound
absorption, I can record anytime. There's lots of shows now
happening with just curiousmedia, as you know, many shows.
Many of you aren't sometimes Ibring you on anyway. But yeah,
very busy. And it's, even thoughwe're in a relatively quiet

(01:18):
area. Noise is noise. I mean,you can't

have noise. If you're sensitive to noise and
aware of noise, you know, that,that everywhere and anywhere is
noise.

It's so true. It can't stop it. So, and this
isn't even 100% No sound proof.
But it is a lot of things. It'svery soundproof and also keeps
my sound in and, you know, helpsthe sound quality's not bouncing
off the walls. And so, yeah, Idid a lot of research, we
thought about sound proofing thestudio, it's a much bigger

(01:50):
studio, it's like, you could dothat spend a lot of money. And
then it's like, Hey, I'm movingthe studio. That didn't make
sense. So this could be brokendown. It's an incredible sound
recording booth. It's made byStudio bricks, highly recommend
them state of the art. I'll sendsome photos to you and I'll
share some online about theexterior. It's really a thing of

(02:10):
work. But I think a beauty Ishould say, but it took a lot of
work, installed it and I had tokind of outfit it. So here I am.
Yes. And this is the I have nowmy my TV was great. But the iPad
Pro much easier to do thingswith right here, my hands reach
a little flip a little swipe. Sothat's it. So that is where I'm

(02:31):
at SAS so I'm in the same spacejust in a different space within
that space.

Wow. No, it's very impressive. You look great.
Thank you. Look, you look likeyou're in the future.

I am I am on the east coast. So when you come
visit, we'll squeeze you in.
Plenty of room for to plenty ofroom. Nice. So what we're doing
today besides talking about myrecording booth, we are going
back in time so this is this isthe Karate Kid 1984 scene by

(03:03):
scene breakdown. rerelease

Wow. Memory, the smiles we left behind.

So this goes back in time to our first ever
recording. And where did thathappen? Sound? Where did that
take place?

I was so young.
That was at the Toluca Lakestudios. Yes. Is where that was.
Yeah, we would have Mondaynights. Monday nights was our
night at Toluca Lake studios.
And yeah, those were good times.
I didn't realize it was thislong ago. 2019.

Yes. We recorded this first episode, June
17 2019. It's the first thingjust curious ever did. And I was
still luring you in like, Yeah,I'll get together. This sounds
fun. Jason, we have a trackrecord of working together from
the festivals, your involvementwith the audition for strictly

(04:06):
background, but our lives keptintersecting. And I thought I
needed co hosts for this idea.
But I didn't want to start withEpisode One of Cobra Kai. Yeah,
you hadn't even watch Cobra Kai?
No, I was like, let's start withthe Karate Kid. Watch it, talk
about it. See if that flows andwe can, you know bounce off of

(04:29):
each other and if it'sentertaining and an enjoyable
time, and we agreed June17 2019. Well, you agreed I was
in and that's the night we didit. We released it. August
29 2019. After we had alreadydone and edited and released
Season One of Cobra Kai so wedid it first released it so

(04:54):
initially this was episode 11.
Okay, but we did it first. Thereason being it was long. It's a
movie, not a show. And I knew bydoing it, I felt very
comfortable. And I know you did,too. So then we delved into the
show, which was more bite sized,especially season one. There's
not all this backstory, and wehad a good time. So we were

(05:17):
doing two episodes a night. Andthen I was like, well, I'll
wait. I guess I'll wait until wefinish the season. And then I'll
release it. I have since changedthe order. About two years into
it. I made the Karate Kid, Imoved it back in front as
episode one, so people couldfind it easy, and it kind of
kicks off everything. Buttheoretically, it did come out

(05:38):
11th. But now it is first. Andthe original release date was
actually October 12 2019. Forthose geeks out there. But the
running time cracks me up therunning time for this scene by
scene breakdown was two hoursand three minutes, nine seconds.
I guess we don't need theseconds, but two hours and three

(05:58):
minutes. Do you know how longthe Karate Kid is?

I'm gonna guess not that far off that

very close. It's the longest of I think it's the
longest if I'm not mistaken.
Really? I feel like karate kidtoo, would be the longer No,
it's the longest of all of them.
It's two hours and six minutes.
So we were almost doing acommentary. We were almost no,

no, wait a second. No. What's the Okay, our
longest episode is two hours,six minutes, right for the
Miyagi verse.

No, sorry, the Karate Kid movie is two hours
and six minutes. And our runningtime for this scene by scene
breakdown of the credit card wastwo hours and three minutes.

Okay, I got confused. Okay, I got it

as as if we were doing a commentary, but we
weren't. We didn't even have iton. We hit add notes. And that's
edited. I'm sure we went 10 moreminutes than that.

So we might have gotten way longer. Yeah, it

was our first time and we were just like, wow,
this is so that night was soenjoyable. That's such an impact
on me and obviously look wherewe're at now. I mean, that was
June 2019. So we made it througha pandemic.

We did we survived.

We survived.

I almost feel like a speech is to hear Yeah,
you know, this was a Do youremember? I think it was Rambo,
I think was Rambo when whenTroutman goes to recruit? Rambo,
like retirement was at thesequel, not first blood. I love
it. That was a sequel. Okay, soso like Rambo is living his
life. That was life. And Trumpwas like, we need you ready

(07:27):
comes out. And Ram was like,This is not what I do anymore.
You know? I mean, I, I was notgenre was me. I was like, I was
living my life. And here's ablast in the past Jason Connell
column. He was the JasonConnell, what's going on here?

How do you get my? Yeah, we're

gonna go to I thought I changed my number. But
no, you reached out. And I waslike, Oh, interesting. So yeah,
I was definitely still onprobation. At this point that we
recorded the credit kit.

Wow. Probation from what

probation from for you. We're still testing the
waters. I mean, this was stillnew to you.

Yeah, I was.
Well, I was

on LA County Probation as well. But that's,
that's fair.

That's a crime.
No, I was definitely in on.
Let's talk Cobra Kai, I justdidn't know how it was going to
look and feel. But I knew Iwanted a co host. Right? I did.
And I was like, Well, you know,you have to get someone a
reliable, you connect with agood rapport. Funny, you guys

(08:26):
complement each other. And whenI started going on that
checklist, that list over heregot real small, because you can
meet someone tomorrow, but arethey going to be there for you?
Let's say you don't want toadmit it. It takes a commitment.
Now. I had no idea. I hoped andprayed. We'd be where we are
now. But look what's happened.
The show takes off. We keepgoing. We've done so many

(08:46):
episodes. Like that's the dream.
But I wanted to be with someonethat way I had history with and
not just anybody you might knowsomeone who like checks all
those boxes, but the sense ofhumor is different. So I was
like, Oh my gosh, sound What'she up to? And you had had me
visit on your radio show onSirius one day? And I said,

(09:08):
Well, I know he's into radio,not just hosting gigs and, and
doing movies. And he probablydid a lot more than I did at
that time. So I thought I'mgonna ask him, and we'll just
see if it's something and hey,lo and behold, that's good
casting, my friend. That's goodcasting.

Yeah, so I feel like I feel like we both made
wise decisions. Yeah, I agree.
But I didn't feel that way.

It was because of the Karate Kid and check this
out. Oh my gosh, there's theposter over my shoulder, the
original poster, but that's whatbrought us together. And so I
surmised you know that nightthat episode, and this is on the
podcast. This is our summary ofthat episode, because we'll just
share a few other things and andthen kind of set up what we're

(09:51):
here to do is we're here torerelease the actual scene by
scene breakdown. We're not doingit again right now. Maybe
someday we'll do that or rereleasing it. and on YouTube,
you won't hear it, you'll haveto go get the podcast version to
hear our scene by scenebreakdown or go back to the
original. But so before I gotinto the summary, I wanted to

(10:13):
say the reason I was wanting todo this is because this is a way
to stack, the Karate Kid, theKarate Kid, Part Two, you're
going to get part three and thenext credit kit are seen by same
breakdowns together. A rereleasewill sandwich them together,
probably in April. And thenthey'll just be there easily for
our fans to listen to, torevisit to see hear it for the

(10:35):
first time, because as you know,you can't sort podcasts. Once
it's out there, it's there. Andit's up to your audience to find
that particular episode. So Ithink a rerelease can kind of
reinvigorate something and alsomake it more accessible for an
audience.

You know, I visited a new podcast, a friend
at a party told me about apodcast. I know. I'm sorry,
Jason. So I go check out thepodcast. And they had an
interesting website where you goto the website, yeah. And then
it says, Are you new to thepodcast? And I go, Yeah, and I
click there. And then they kindof guided me to which episodes
now in the end, it turns outclever. They chose which
episodes for me to listen to asa new listener, and it was like

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best stuff. Wow. Yeah. Sobefore, I know that I'm
listening to Season Oneepisodes, season two episode.
They weren't I don't even knowif they were an order. But the
point is, you know, they guidedme and I was okay with it. Yeah,
exactly. Yeah, I feel like we'redoing that we're guiding people.
Yeah, someone

came in later to us. And I just listened to the
Cobra Kai show episodes, whichare amazing. It's probably what
we're most known for. They maynot even realize a there's a
trilogy out there. There's afranchise and be you guys
covered them head to toe. So Ithink it's a great way to
reintroduce content, and we'redusting it off. Me too.

(11:46):
Absolutely. I'm proud of that.
Yes. And this is a way to dustit off. And also, I've listened
to it, you know, not that longago, or at least pieces of it.
And to me, it's hilarious. Well,I mean, first efforts, the intro
is just non existent. We justkind of jump in. And when it's
over, I think I'm saying nomercy. Like, it's just, it's fun
to just go down that road againand think wow, listen to this.

(12:08):
It's great. But I think we'vegone you know, we've come a long
way since then.

Very nice. I'm looking forward to it. I could
give it another listen. It'sbeen a while you should.

You should. So this is our summary. Okay, this
is hilarious. Well, I don't knowif it's hilarious. But Jason
Connell and Sal Rodriguez, breakdown the classic movie and talk
about catching flies, John G.
Appletons. Connection to theRocky franchise. And how Pat
Marita went from Happy Days tothe Academy Awards.

I think that's a great segue. Hey, I want to hear
this too. Yeah, it's immediate.
Its immediate summary, its

MIDI. I've also put some notes on here because I
have made a mistake for ages onthat episode. And in fact, that
mistake carried into many manyother episodes until I finally
rectify that mistake. And Ididn't go back and edit it. So
it is funny. Here's the mistake.
Yes. Daniel lives at the SouthSeas apartments, as we all know

Yeah. Every if you've seen the movie, you know
this

not the seven C's as mistakenly mentioned in the
episode, that is what would youcall that Sal? You love the
saying the phrase what would youcall this?

I would call that part of the Mandela Effect. I
would say so. Yeah, it fallsunder that because you think
that something is what it isnot? Yeah, your brain remembers
it is that

you couldn't have convinced me otherwise. So I
have been to the South Seasapartments before we even did
the episode. I've taken photos,but I hadn't gone by there quite
some time. And my mind resetthat to sow seeds. I thought it
sounded cool. 70s I thought itsounded cooler. I've actually
retrain myself to let it go. Sotalking about it now look out I

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might be in trouble. There wasthe old arithmetic song. Please
give me a little bit dish intheir

sweet dreams are made of this. Who am I to
disagree? I travel the world andthe seven seas. Everybody is
looking for something. SevenSeas. There we go.

The next line keep going. Daniel Russo

really hammered home? Sees Yeah, no, that's
true. I and that's an easymistake. You know why? Because
when you look at the sign southand seven the way that it's
written in cursive exactly, it'salmost it's almost
interchangeable. I let you offthe hook. I do. And

isn't it a better name?

I think it works.
I know. You know, it's kind ofisn't there a salad dressing?
Exactly.

But I have come back around South Seas it is I
love it we go there often you gothere more often sometimes you
go by there and do episodeswhich is great. But that was a
mistake so when you hear thisepisode you will hear it and
what Jason

so be it since we're sharing mistakes you know
I very soon after you and Istarted recording let's talk
Cobra Kai I ended up doing aKarate Kid Action Figures Review
and all throughout the video. Ikeep saying Miyagi do ma Aki do
I keep saying Miyagi do? Yeah.
And now and now to this day? Noshortage of comments. Dude. It's

(15:35):
not me all you do. I'm like, Iknow. I know. I know. Yeah. No,
I know. But then I didn't

when we first dove in. I was even I saw it
written as a is it doe or do Imean I was like Season One of
Cobra Kai but yeah. And tochange it is just, you can you
can redo it. So it lives. It'sokay. I've learned to handle and
accept blemishes. And that'sjust a glaring one. And it's a
funny one. So now, of course weare covering on that episode,

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scene by scene breakdown thisincredible masterpiece. And just
because we want to give creditwhere credit's due, I'll just do
the synopsis for the originalKarate Kid. Let's see if that
holds up. And then you can rundown the hit list of all stars
that put this thing together.
And then we'll sign out and thenwe'll let people delve into the
episode. So the synopsis and Ididn't write this this is

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straight from IMDB. A boy andhis mother moved to California
for a new job. He struggles tofit in as a group of karate
students starts to bully him fordating a rich girl from their
clique. It's up to the Japaneselandlord Miyagi to teach him
karate. Wow. I don't love it.

Wait a second.
Jason. Miyagi is not thelandlord.

I know he's the handyman who thought of this.
Yeah, I mean, I love it. But Ialso think this could be
rewritten. And maybe it is inother places. This is straight
from IMDB.

Nobody you know what? Where did IMDb get that?
Did I get that for old work?

came out in 1984.
Who knows it gets repurposedthis that and the other. I would
almost take a new stab at this.
It's kind of funny, but

but I was surprised nobody. Nobody like
caught that before. Like, hey,Miyagi wasn't the landlord. I
know. Wow. The only thing Iwould

call him landlord to them. Maybe he does collect
the money. He doesn't own it.
But maybe he is the landlord.

Maybe he's the manager manager or something
like that. But the only thing Iwould change besides that, I
would I would look into that.
The only thing besides that is Iwould say a boy and his mother
moved to California from NewJersey. I would just kind of add
more contrast. Yeah, yeah, justadd that contrast. I think
everything else is fine. I mightthrow in and see No, I don't
know dating a rich girl fromEncino. I might throw that in.
Yeah, just for geographicalreference. I don't know. But

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otherwise first. Yeah, yeah, Iwas just sitting the keynote
today,

just graphically biased. I understand. I'm there
twice a week. So so why don'tyou go down the hit list of this
all star cast and some of themwe've lost unfortunately along
the way, but they left us thismovie that just lives on.

Yeah, and without them we wouldn't be here. It
wouldn't be here without thesepeople. Director John G.
Abelson, writer Robert MarkKaman. Cinematographer James
crepe. Cast Ralph Macho. PatMorita, Elisabeth Shue Randy
Heller, Martin Cove, WilliamZabka. Composer Bill Conti.

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Producer, Jerry Weintraub. Ah,wow warms my heart. It really
does

beautiful, incredible talent from the
writing directing Conte scorethe cinematography cast and of
course, Weintraub pulling thestrings putting it together.
Amazing. So we're very fortunateI this is a long setup for a
long episode. But listen, thiswas a lot of fun to reminisce.
It all started this night thatwe recorded the scene by scene

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breakdown. So I really encourageeveryone to enjoy it. Listen to
it. I mean, yeah, you can seeour growth. Hopefully we've
grown and not regressed.

You know what I think it'll be Jason. I think
it's a good opportunity. And youand I included Yeah, rewatch the
original film, re listen to ourpodcasts, and then go into
season six. I mean, it's I thinkit's a good way to wrap up
season six will be a revisit.

I like it. So so we're still in a play out of the
let's talk movies playbook. Oh,yes. So without further ado,
please enjoy

the Karate Kid.

Welcome to Just curious media. And this is let's
talk Cobra Kai. I'm your hostJason Connell documentary
filmmaker, churn. podcaster.
Joined by Sal Rodriguez.

Sure. comedian, writer, actor.

You name it. I brought Sal on. I've known him
for years to help me tackle thisshow that I've recently found.
Want to love with Cobra Kai? Andrather than start with the first
episode, we wanted to go back towhere Cobra Kai was born. Was it
the original 1984? The KarateKid?

A classic. By the way, you would have this
obsession with Cobra Kai start.
I mean, do you have a karatebackground yourself?

I do actually. I trained taekwondo growing up and
even in LA I was training haveketo for a while, which is
Korean but I know this martialarts. I love it. It's like the
evil empire. You're always drawnto the dark side, right? There's
something so cool about theCobra guy.

So you want to be a Cobra Kai even over Karate
Kid?

Well, watching the movie I hated Cobra Kai.
Yeah, I feared them. I wasyoung. But over time, Cobra Kai
does like you know, it justlooks so cool and menacing. And,
and actually my hair truth betold it was very Gianni esque.
And on two different Halloween Ihave dressed up as Cobra Kai.

Ya know, when I first met Jason Connell, he had
the Johnny hairstyle. Yeah, youdrew Yeah,

I had it just recently but I go in and out. I
found a Cobra Kai shirt rippedoff the sleeves black shirt,
huge copaco on the front it hadwhat is their slogan?

Strike first strike first strike hard no
mercy, sir. I added the sir.

So I had that on the back of the shirt. And I
went to these events and peopleare like swept the leg Johnny
and at one at LACMA. They said,Oh, there's a Danielson run
around here. So we had a photoop. Really? Yeah, it was great.
Did he do the cream? No, but Iwould have seen that coming.

Yeah. Then you would have slept? I would have
thought that.
Oh, that's cool to know thatabout you. So scene is how you
did martial arts. And you playsoccer. I would be wary of your
kicks. Good kicks. Yeah. Stayclear.

Oh, what about you?

Well, I've just been a fan of mixed martial arts
for many years and that hassegwayed into I've taken boxing
coaching. I've taken Muay Thaicoaching, private coaching, but
I'm just an overall fan of mixedmartial arts. So mixed martial
arts has then gotten me toappreciate the individual
disciplines like karate. Yeah,and I know speaking of Karate
Kid, I mean, definitely whenspeaking of UFC, the Karate Kid,

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I'm sure influenced GSP GeorgeSt. Pierre, one of the greatest
mixed martial arts ever, who wasa former student who was bullied
who then went into karate, andthen became one of the greatest
UFC champions ever, you cancreate a lot of parallels with
the Karate Kid, and to how theymanifested in real life.

Absolutely. Well, back to this movie. So came out
in 1984. This is the 35thanniversary, kind of hard to
believe. And guess what thebudget was and the idea.

I'm gonna guess around 5 million. That's

pretty good guess it was 8 million. Wow. Not a lot
of big names. I mean, you gotthis young cast. Yeah, right.
And Pat Morita wasn't householdname.

What did rough macho do prior to this? So

he was in up the academy was like this cheesy
little movie and then he was ina ton of episodes of Eight is
Enough.

Wait was outsiders before or after Karate
Kid?

What's right before?

Okay, so we this is coming right off outside?

Yes, he was in the outsiders, which was of all
things filmed in my hometown,Tulsa, Oklahoma. I didn't know
that Francis Ford Coppola cameto town. It was written by se
Hinton who was a Tolson, so I'mlike 1112 years old. And here
comes Coppola and company. Andall you really knew at the time
was Matt Dillon. Yeah, and youlook back now and it's like, oh
my gosh, are you kidding me? Therest of it has Tom Cruise.

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Patrick Swayze. Rob Lowe. DianeLane. It's loaded but you don't
know. Oh, sure.

They were all that was a springboard for many
of them. So they were nothousehold names by any means.

And so much yeah, so seeing him on that that's
what got him this role. KarateKid. So guess what? It grossed
US gross.

Okay, US gross.
Let's see budget of 8 million 50million,

almost 91 million. Wow. So who knows what
he did worldwide. These are justnumbers from IMDb that no wonder
they spawned so many sequels,shows, etc, etc. Who

got rich wine Trump?

Jerry Weintraub definitely got rich. Oh, for
sure.

There was an old thing I heard it's like when
they were talking about how muchTom Cruise earned and for
Mission Impossible or whatever,you know, bragging about how big
his checks were. But thensomebody said, Well, there was
always some producer who whosigned the check to Tom Cruise
who was making more money thanTom Cruise. Oh, for sure.

Yes. So it still gets 88% on Rotten Tomatoes. 7.2
on IMDb. So I hadn't seen thefilm in a while and to start it.
Did you realize that they werein like New Jersey in the
beginning of this movie? No,

I forgot that part for it all. I know what
when I originally saw it, Imight have come into the movie
theater late. I might havemissed I never knew it. No, I
don't remember that at all. Andthen there's this road trip

from New Jersey.
Yeah, to Los Angeles. And it's awhole opening credits montage.
Yeah, that I totally was lost onme.

But I expected to see all the states but they go
from New Jersey and the nextthing you know when I recognize
because I've been there manytimes they're in Sedona,
Arizona, so they went from NewJersey to Sedona, Arizona now
getting gas but I'm thinkingwhat where did they stop in
between all of a sudden they'rein Sedona then they're in
California they

only had $8 million dollars you can only do
so many states they couldn'treally go there and they

jumped started the car a lot of people don't
know that you can do that aclutch clutch a friend of mine
is motorcycle wouldn't start Iwas like let's push it man. And
we push it any we start up hismotorcycle but it was
Interesting to see them start upthe car that way and they
traveled cross countryjumpstarting this car. That's
crazy.

A lot of foreshadow and then I learned
how to drive on a standard. AndI learned how to get it out of
first on a big hill. So therewas times popping the clutch was
standard procedure.

Yeah, that's tough, though, because I've
tried clutch. Yeah, I've triedit. I know how to do it. I know
what to do. But I'm really badat it. I stole in first. It's
just bad. I'm better onautomatic.

I've washed my car was standard. So anyway,
they're on the long road trip.
And then they wind up and of allplaces. receita. Yeah, why not?
You know, at the seven seas,which I will say I went there
three weeks ago, just to see ifit was still standing. looks
exactly the same.

You know what, I'm really surprised to hear
that because for those of youunfamiliar with what's going on
in the area, President de LosAngeles and the San Fernando
Valley being a suburb I wouldalmost call a former suburb,
it's now becoming more urban.
I'm surprised that that buildingis still standing up, because
there's a lot of demolitiongoing on. They demoed Marilyn
Monroe's old house in NorthHollywood over here not too long

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ago. Why would they care aboutKarate Kid apartment building.
I'm so surprised and pleasantlysurprised that it's still
standing today and you can driveover there and see it today.

So that patchwork that Miyagi

did back and he did he was he was good. He was
good with his hands. So I

even went up to the gate. It was pretty funny.
And now let's see through. Soit's not that wooden gate that
Daniel could not see through.
And there's the pool. There'sthe waterfall. I didn't go in to
look at apartment 20

By the way, that apartment complex is on saticoy
near Tampa.

That's That's exactly right. So we start off
Daniel is so against moving andhe's just got this bad attitude.
His mother's so upbeat andexcited to move some computer
company has brought

her West. We've got a downright positive
attitude. super positive, andhe's a little grumpy. Honestly,
I'm not liking him so much.
Yeah, not a little grumpy. He isreally pissed. Yeah, I'm just
not into his character loopwoman got him. Yeah, I'm like,
this ungrateful kid is devotedmother bringing them along in a
cross country road trip. Mymother never took me on a road
for

single mother at that. Yeah. And she's got a job
for them. And she relocated. Soas first encounter with someone
else his own age, he kicks openthe door to this seven seas, and
knocks over Freddie. Yeah, whobefriends him immediately and
seems like a really nice guy.

Yeah, it seems like a legitimate kid that wants
to have a new friend and we'rehappy to welcome him to the
building

invites him to a cookout the next day. So
immediately, he's got somethingin his day planner.

I'm starting to figure out what day it is. So
I'm figuring if they had a beachparty, and then they had school
the next day. So that means itmust have been a Sunday. They
arrived on a Saturday. Theyarrive on a Saturday. Yeah, go
to the beach party on a Sunday.
They have school on Monday,

and it wasn't as school it was first day in
school. Okay. Yeah. So

this is actually a very interesting time. In the
school year, as well. Yep. Notonly in Daniel's son's life.

So we we meet Friday, he invites him and on
the way up to an apartment 20They pass this old lady with the
dog. Now do you recognize thatold lady at all? No, I didn't
recognize her. She was happyGilmore's grandmother. Oh, to
get to get more okay. And shewasn't a bunch of episodes of
Seinfeld. Anyway, small bit, butI thought I knew she looks

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familiar. Okay,

when Danielson brought the water for the dogs
is when he started to redeemhimself to That's right. I
thought okay, well, he's kind ofthoughtful.

Now. What's the long road trip? He was grumpy.
His mom wouldn't stop. Yeah,maybe that was part

but I thought it was a nice gesture. Yeah, it was
a kind of gesture. And that'swhen I started to think okay,
maybe this Daniel's son is notsuch a bad kid. after all.

We then meet Mr.
Miyagi. And he's trying to catchflies with chopsticks. A little
foreshadowing? Is that what he'sdoing in the beginning? The
first time Daniel sees him, hesees what he's doing. Okay. Is
that catching? No. Yes. Did youever try to catch flies off
chopsticks after this?

I've never tried to catch flies with chopsticks.
But I have tried to trap flies.
Because I do a catch and releasesystem. Remember this amount of
critters? Yeah. So I have triedto capture flies to then release
them outside. But have evertried with chopsticks. Never
tried that because you mightcrush them? I would imagine that
if you did catch a flight with achopstick you would indeed end
its life.

You know what I got good at with my cousin. We
cut flies in our hands. Buildscoop technique. Yes. And I got
really good at that.

And then what'd you do with it?

I let him know.
Oh, you let them go. We wouldtell each other. Catch him. Hold
him for three seconds. Open yourhands. He'll fly away. We'll
come back because he's been inyour heart. And sometimes that
happened. Really? Yeah. Wethought we were like kung fu
masters. Yeah, it was prettycool.

No, that was a precursor to Kashmir with Jeff.
So have you ever cut flies withchopsticks and never tried never
tried? Well, you know what,there's a sushi place right
across the street. They haveflies. Hopefully not but they
definitely have chopsticks. AndI'm actually curious now to see
if that is indeed possible. Iwonder did they just create that
concept for the movie? Or isthat actually some old samurai
concept?

If and when we get rough maggio on? It's a good
question for him. Yeah, I likethat. Because I'd like to know
that too. Like, where did thatcome from? Is that in the
script?

What if like the fly with chopstick was just
improv for the day and theydecided to keep it so
impractical

to like, really catch that fly? With a chapstick
but hey. So he meets Pat moraineand now Pat Marina was talking
about him for a second came fromSanford and Son. You know that's
kind of what would you say redfox discovered him

red fox discovered Pat Marieta through
stand up comedy. Yes. You sawhim doing stand up comedy. I
don't know where I guess LosAngeles and then had him come on
and Sanford and Son so I believethat's where he got his
television start was what wasthe character's name?

ah choo,

choo. You'd never get away with that today. So
aren't you played by patent Ritahad his television debut Sanford
and Son discovered by red fox,really good, interesting bit of
trivia.

And then of course, happy days, which I
really remember him from isArnold.

Okay, so that's when I personally first learned
about Pat. Marita was unhappy tome to

Jerry Weintraub, the producer did not initially
want Pat Merida for the role.

No, because he thought that he would make the
role too comical because see,prior to the Karate Kid, Pat and
Rita was known as a comedian.
stand up comedian, then comedicactor. So then all of a sudden,
they want to introduce them tothis movie as playing some
karate sensei. And JerryWeintraub was like, no, he's a
comedian. And he basically Ithink, had to audition and prove

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himself and then weintrob wasimpressed by his performance.
And then what happened? Well,let me just give a little more
please. What happened was SoPat, Marita pattern, the role of
Mr. Miyagi after sensei. Fumiodemora. And they've made a
documentary about him in 2017called the real Mr. Miyagi. So
Pat, Marita pattern, Mr. Miyagi,after Fumio demora, a very

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famous Japanese karate martialartist.

And so to prove he really deserve the part, Mr.
Miyagi goes on. gets nominatedfor a Golden Globe and an Oscar
nominated for an Oscar doesn'twin, either. But But what

do you think when you're amazing? When you're in a
position like wine Trump'syou're like, I didn't want this
guy at first. And now he'snominated for an Oscar and a
Golden Globe. Does that doanything to you? I wonder. Is
that any question? Question.
You're moving on?

I think you quickly say I signed off on
that. Yeah, exactly. Take thecredit. Spin it around. Yes.
Spin like what I put in motion.
All right. So that's patent rateand we've got a little bit of
him. So now back on point,Daniels at the beach, hanging
out with Friday hanging out withthe guys playing soccer, which
is cool to see. I'm a big soccerguy. And there's the first time
we see a young Elisabeth Shue isAli the love interest Yes. And

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who would go on after this to bein you know movies like cocktail
Back to the Future two and threeadventures and babysitting
Leaving Las Vegas she's had areally grab all the people from
credit kids. She's probably hadone of the best careers

does she do bikini work and all of her films
or was it just in the KarateKid?

Well, there is a swimsuit and cocktail.

Really? Yeah.
Okay, note to self watchcocktail. Now

back to the futures they're not back in the
future. Two or threeartventurers of babies and other
Leaving Las Vegas pretty gritty.
It's a great movie, but it wasdark Mike Vegas Feldman. There's
a side to her. That's not theusual Elisabeth Shue

interesting.
Yeah. Cuz their role is verywholesome. Right very much this
whole movies. COURAGINGsupporting? Yes. Just wanted to
be done with Johnny. Right. Andwhich is kind

of shocking that she was with Johnny. And I know
that's like it's over. We don'tsee it happen on camera. But she
was really with him. Well, youran with a Cobra Kai.

You know, what's funny is if they read this movie
today, I guess they did likewhat the Karate Kid. But let's
forget about that for a second.
They would have some sort ofprequel. So in the prequel, we
would get to see Ali and Johnnydating. We all have seen the
jerk date the nice person.
That's true. So it makes totalsense that this sweet girl dated
this jerk. That's true thateventually does try to break

up with him. And we've seen him away from the
Cobra guys at the country club,for instance. And he fits in
that society very well. And theparents liked and the parents
liked him. So it could implylike the parents that his
parents and so they probablyanother side to him, and he
probably got darker. And CobraKai, maybe that's why she broke
up with him.

A little bit of background on Johnny's
character, or rather, should Isay the actor portraying Johnny
how he approached the role wasthat he imagines aapke Williams
aka William Zabka. Imagine thathis Sensei, when he did some
research and into how he wantedto portray the role, the Sensei
was the only father figure he'sever known. So that was sort of

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an attachment he had to thesensei to the point where he's
willing then later on crease yeslater to do whatever he says is

true, because we don't meet Johnny's dad in
Karate Kid.

We don't know anything about his family.

I've actually seen Cobra Kai, we're saving
that for the podcast. We getinto that you do delve deep into
Johnny's background with hisparents. So

it is almost a prequel in a way. Yes.

It's kind of like a lost you go back and forth and
learn about the character. Soback on the beach, I guess we
never left and here comes theCobra Kai riding dirt bikes on
the beach, no helmets. Lookinglike rock stars, they

didn't have helmet law them

didn't have a helmet law. So they come rolling
up and immediately chaos ensues.

This is where some people talk about how
Danielson is actually the bully.
And there are all these you cancheck online. There's all kinds
of information about our peopletheorizing that it's actually
Daniel son, child psychologist,sociologist. Daniel was more of
the bully and instigator thanJohnny. This is due to the
scenes involving Daniel quoteunquote, standing up for

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himself, in fact being acts ofretaliation against something
Gianni has perceived to havedone to ally. So some people are
downright say that Daniel sonwas the bully.

I wouldn't go so far to say that but I also
wouldn't call Danielson.
Innocent, okay. I think hedefinitely helps fuel the fire.
He's got that, you know, he'sfrom he's from the East Coast.
He has a short fuse. Danielobviously does. He's gonna stand
up for himself. He stands up forhimself. He goes over to an
obviously bad situation withguys who look tough. Yeah. And
his buddies who he's barelybuddies with and don't look to

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quickly fade away. And he's allby himself. And I gave him
credit. He didn't back down

yet. When he got pushed down. Yep, he threw that
stereo aside and got up ready tofight and then

punched him that sucker punch but got a good hit
on Johnny made his mouth bleed.
And then Johnny, of course, putshim down on the on the sand. So
when that happens, the guyFreddie who brings him to the
beach quickly disowns Daniel,

he knows that he will not be getting any karate
lessons as he had hoped for

Daniel lives in receita. This happened in where
Malibu

it was actually at Leo Carrillo State Beach,
actually a place that I visitquite often.

So what is that?
20 miles.

It's a little bit north of Malibu, I believe.

Exactly. So Daniel has no ride home. This is
pre Uber pre Lyft

there was no bus at that time. There was RTD not
Metro. There was no RTD Yeah,

it's Sunday night, dude. He's got school
that next day. Yeah, Fridayleaves in Daniel to his pride
kicks in and he shoves away Ali,they get away, I'm fine. I'll be
fine. And so you know, you haveno idea how he gets home, but he
doesn't have any money. So thathappens. So

how does he get home? His friends left him Yeah,
Ali's not wait. Did Ali takethem home? No. He told her
leave. Okay, so yeah, how do youget home maybe he walked walked
to a payphone

called it now because he kept the whole thing
a secret from his mother. Thenext day he wakes up he's
wearing shades first day ofschool.

Okay, so anyway, that's not called a blooper.
What is it called a glitch? Idon't know an answer question as
skipping ahead.

I can't type every loosen. Yeah. Okay. So a
little bit before we go on alittle bit about William Zakka.
The Johnny Lawrence, the headCobra Kai. He was in a few other
movies. And some I really likedjust one of the guys. Okay,
National Lampoon's EuropeanVacation, great movie Grizz
waltz. He was dating thegridwall daughter. And a night

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he wasn't nice in that, but healso kind of here had a little
bit of that aura about him. Anddefinitely in the Rodney
Dangerfield movie Back toschool. He it's almost like he
plays a character named chess,but he's really almost playing
Johnny in college. It was a realjerk in that movie. He's a
swimmer. He's a diver, much likeRodney Dangerfield son, and it
was a super jerk to him. It wasin a frat. So he really nailed

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that like cocky, blonde allAmerican persona.

I totally forgot about that. But after the movie,
having had no martial artsexperience prior to the film, he
went on to become a I think itwas a second degree. I think
they call it a second degreeGreen Belt. Okay, I don't know
the belts. Yeah, he startedadvancing karate after this
movie. But prior to all that hewas actually an accomplished
wrestler, maybe a high schoolwrestler or college wrestler.

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And to this day, he still ownsthe red leather jacket that he
wore. The film still owns thattoday. It's a great looking
jacket. Does he have it in CobraKai? He does. Okay, so that's
his own personal prop.

That's a great jacket. Yes. A little Michael
Jackson. I also was gonna saythat they look down Daniel, and
maybe this is not important ornot but more soccer. Daniel Roth
Macho is a pretty good jugglerof the soccer ball. Yeah, I
noticed that, you know, he'susing his knees a lot. And he
was teaching Ali how to do Yeah,I guess when I saw this movie, I
was inundated in soccer. AndI've seen it was just natural.

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And now this many years later,there's like 20 Soccer scenes in
this movie, which I Yeah, and Iguess they go on the field.
There's two different practices,but no, no,

you know what, I gotta tell you. Okay, so I grew
up in the San Fernando Valleywhere this movie is set. Right?
Soccer was not a big thing. Thatwas actually for the movies like
they the movie made it a biggerthing. Growing up in the San
Fernando Valley attending allLAUSD schools in the San
Fernando Valley soccer was not abig thing. Wow. So the movie
made it a big thing. And nowlook where we are today. Soccer
has become a bigger thing. Yeah.
So it all goes back to KarateKid karate kid started the trend

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of

karate kid. And I was also gonna point out one of
the Cobra Kai's has a famousfather.

Yeah, well, one of the Cobra guys will please
Dutch named Chad McQueen, theson of Steve McQueen.

He actually studied martial arts from Chuck
Norris. Yeah, you know, he's gotsome moves. Yeah. When they get
to the tournament much later thevalley tournament, if anybody he
looks the most legitimate of theCobra guys, they have other
people in the tournament thatyou could tell were real martial
artists. Oh yeah, they weresprinkling that man to give it
the authenticity.

You had the referee of the match name is Pat
E. Johnson. He is a karateexpert and former student going
back to Chuck Norris again. Andhe instructed many movie stars
in karate. He's credited at theend of the movie as the fight
instructor choreographer for thefilm. But I didn't know that I
didn't know what the referee wasthe fight choreographer. Make

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sense until the very end, yougot to look at the credits. I
encourage people to stick aroundfor the credits of a movie. You
see the movie theater people getup and leave. Well, now more
people are staying because Ithink there's going to be a
little inseam. But if it's not aMarvel movie, most people are
going to get up and leave. Youmiss some star Ferris Bueller.
Okay, you miss some stuff if youjust get up and leave. So
definitely stick around. Therewas also another guy, a guy
named Darryl Vidal Darrow thedoll who also portrays a

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tournament finalist in themovie. He is the guy that did
the body doubling of Mr. Miyagiwhen he's doing the crane on the
beach. Okay, yeah. So a guy fromthe tournament body double
patent reader for the crane seen

$8 million movie, you gotta have multiple jobs. He
was really

light on his feet. I thought when he was
doing those movements on thatbeam of water on that post. Yes.
Really liked like a feather.
Yeah,

it was a good scene. I'm more foreshadowing,
but we'll get to that. That'sahead of us.

We'll get I'm jumping ahead. Okay, so

here we are.
First day of school. Daniel hasa shiner. And there's more
soccer. We don't we're not evenin the school. We're literally a
soccer practice. It's

like 12 hours later, he's soccer in again. And
he's juggling

away. And then there's Cruel Summer that song
is playing Bananarama and thenCobra Kaiser scheming a plan.
They've already bested him atthe beach. embarrass him in
front of Hallie. And they'realready scheming on the soccer
field.

They see him first I believe, I think they
spot him first. Well, there'smore about them. But yes, yes,
true. They spot him and that'swhen they start scheming.

So during the game, soccer game. Bobby takes
out Daniel obvious REDcardobjection. What does Daniel do?
Immediately fights back andslugs Bobby, and they always get
the retaliation. Yeah, Coachrejects Daniel. Sure he's lost
his mind. Ali oversees thiswhole thing. And Daniel looks

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like the crazy man because he'sjust, he's got a short fuse. He
is being picked on.

I thought he was gonna get kicked out of school
because right before that, thatlittle fight on the soccer
field. He and Daniel and Ali arehaving a nice little flirtatious
moment. You're having a nicelittle moment. I thought to
myself that she's thinking, Oh,he's going to be here at we're
in school. We're going to date.
That's where she's probablythinking, Oh, yeah. And then he
gets the boot. I'm thinking asthe viewer, he's getting
expelled from school. And thenshe's looking at him going, oh

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my gosh, there it is. It's overbefore it even started.

That's true. If you punch someone in my school
and you're not just leavingsoccer practice, you're you are
ejected from school

today. If you punch somebody you're probably
getting arrested.

There's that?
Yeah, this is the 80s the 80s

you can get away yeah, he is he I think he had a
knife could have a knife inschool. It was no big

deal. Yes, the 80s cut too, which I think is
more foreshadowing Daniel in hisapartment reading a book about
karate and doing some selflessons. Yeah, he's kicking.
He's kicking in Mr. Miyagi. Themaintenance man enters the scene
and surveys what's going on?
Because what did

you fix the sink?
Right there was a leakarresting? Yes. Okay. So Mr.
Miyagi arrives to fix the sinkand sees Daniel practicing
kicks. Exactly. Yeah.

Just a little moment there, you know. And next
we see Daniel's mom, Mrs. Lewis.
So at a restaurant, not at hercomputer job, which went under
by the way, I missed that sheeven worked at the computer
company. But Daniel tells Fridaythat in the beginning, and then
there's a little bit of anexchange where she said they
went under and then she luckedinto this job at the Orient

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Express. And she became thehostess.

So interesting.
I'm wondering if maybe theproduction lost the location or
something. They had the jams. Imean, why would they just make
that right turn all of a sudden,

well, they stuck her right next to the Cobra Kai
Dojo to. Again, it's a milliondollar budget.

Now you got to stay tight. Keep things tight.

We got a screen cut that computer company. So
she's at the restaurant. And inthe background. You can see it,
it says karate, right. Yeah. Andwhen I saw this movie, not as a
kid, when I saw it, I don'tknow. I watched it about seven,
eight years ago. And I saw astreet and it was Cloverdale.
And this is a miracle mile LosAngeles and Wilshire Cloverdale

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Wilshire. When I was watchingthis movie, I was living at
fourth and Cloverdale. And Ijust had this out of body
experience like wait two, threeblocks down the Cobra Kai dojo.
So I got my dog as we walk downthere. Just look at this
building. Is this where it wasdone? And it was but that's one
of two Cobra Kai locations.

Yeah, they did cheat the locations apparently.
One is near off of Miracle Mileexterior exterior would be
called the west side of LosAngeles. Then you jump back into
the San Fernando Valley and theDojo is in North Hollywood on
Lankershim

and both buildings are there but that's
more prominent. They're all theindoor scenes that you see in
the Cobra Kai Dojo or the onefrom now.

Yeah, and the one in Noho on Lankershim between
Chandler and Magnolia in Noho.
Arts District today was famouslocally for being a dance studio
apparently was a very famousdancer. They also they also had
aerobics classes. So when Ifirst moved to Noho, 20 years
ago, you had a lot of danceclasses there I used to see
little did I know when I'd seethe dance classes there when I
would be eating at the Indianrestaurant across the alleyway.

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I'm looking over at the danceclass, not realizing that that
was the Cobra Kai dojo.

That's amazing.
You know if I was old enough inthe 80s, or I'm surprised
someone didn't do this. But whydid they not roll out Cobra Kai
studios everywhere?

They could have definitely could they didn't
capitalize off it

might have been too early and it definitely
helped prime karate and America.

I say this as a toy collector. Why didn't they
have the whole line of actionfigures immediately? Or did they
I don't think that they hadoriginal Karate Kid or Cobra Kai
action figures because Lucas didmake this movie. If Lucas would
have made this we would haveCobra Kai motorcycles. You would
definitely have the motorcyclesthe dirt bike? Oh, yes. You'd
have the Cobra Kai dirtbike.

Absolutely. The red jackets.

Oh, you'd have the red jackets. You'd have the
headbands and bands, you'd haveshops to have it all.

I mean, they had a few trinkets here and there. I
did see some I went to videostores back then. That's how I
even found credit card. I didn'tsee it in the theater.
Unfortunately. One video storecalled all the right movies.
They had this thing behind thecounter and it was chopsticks
like karate kid branded. Sothere was a little bit of that
going on. But not not enough,not what they would have today.

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I mean, had it come out now.
Cobra Kai would be everywhere.
It would be like the chakotay ofkarate dojos Yeah, you know why
not? Sure are the StarbucksDaniels talking to his mother,
getting the lowdown sharingabout Ali this love interest.
And he's excited because he'sgonna although Daniels reading

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his book about karate. He knowshe needs to learn from master.
So he goes and inquiring At theDojo, not knowing it's Cobra
caught.

Oh, that's right.
He walks into get legitimatelessons not realizing he was
walking into the belly of thebeast.

Exactly. He sees crease and he sees it. This
commanding sensei has controlover the whole class. And it
wasn't till certain people bowand he sees Johnny's eyes lock
on

him. Yeah, cuz Chris has Johnny take over the
class. That's later. That wasn'tat that moment when Johnny
wasn't bends down to That'sright now and sees DANIEL Yeah,
that's when they make eyecontact and Daniel's like, Oh,
no. What am I doing here?

And so my question to you is, what if
Daniel had just stayed stomachdid talk to crease and became a
Cobra Kai

Wow, look how close we were to them. What the
movie being over, you know, Iyou know, and then Daniel goes
back as a cobra, Kai, and beatsup Fred.

It's all gone back to Freddy. Now, I mean, I
know what the movie is over, buthe's just not wanting to back
down from things. So Danieldecides to leave as opposed to
staying there, which would haveprobably solved all of his
problems, goes back histemperaments different. He's
dejected. He's chosen the onedojo in the world that the Cobra

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Kai is is at. And he's talkingto his mother. And if you
remember that scene, I think thescenes actually well done. You
see the Cobra Kai coming out ofthe studio, and they spot him
Oh, yeah,

cuz he's, they're having lunch or dinner with his
mother, right in the window.
Right? They come out of thedojo, and then actually, they
don't see him at first. It's theone guy who sees him, runs back
tells Johnny Hey, and thenthat's when what do they do at
that moment?

So then we cut to Daniel Ryan his bike from which
that would have been fromMiracle Mile to receive it
impossible, but we won't getinto that entourage used to do
stuff like that. So he's ridinghis bike calm, it's kind of
area, they did a good job ofthat.

You know what I was reminded of his when he was
riding his bike at that moment,kind of having et flashbacks.
It's like, I think et filmed inthe valley too, and went to the
house one time, okay, so at filmin the valley, and they had the
end of the bicycle ride and atnight, I was totally reminded of
scenes from et when Daniel isriding his bike there before he
gets accosted by these brutes ondirt bikes.

And this time they're wearing helmets.

They did have helmets. Oh, that's to be
anonymous. Oh, good point. Yeah.
Cuz they knew they were going todo dirty. So like when they
showed up at the beach. Theywere just going to show up at
the beach and be idiots. It'strue. But tonight, you're right.
They knew they were going to

disappoint it.
Yeah, it was premeditated. Yes,exactly. And I want to talk
about crease real quick. Yeah,crease the Cobra Kai sensei.
He's played by Martin Cove. is alongtime TV actor. Yeah, he went
on to play I want to say almost200 episodes of Cagney and
Lacey.

When the time I saw Karate Kid for the first
time. I had definitely seen himin lots of stuff. So many
things. Yeah, I'm sure like Iprobably saw him in hunter or
Oh, yeah, Falcon Crest, allthose shows the 80s I think I
saw him and I definitely hadseen him before.

I doubt he was on Love Boat.

Maybe fantasy.

Everybody else was on Martin Cove. He's in
Cobra Kai.

Okay. I'm looking forward. I know. Chuck Norris
was rumored to have been askedto play that role. But he was
never asked to play that. That'sright. Yeah. But the rumor was
he was asked to play that roleand turned down the role because
he thought he would portraykarate senseis in a negative
light.

That's a good point.

Now what Chuck Norris came back and said, it's
Yeah, that's true. I was neveroffered the role, but I would
have turned it down for thatvery reason. That's a

good point. I agree. His image was much
cleaner than that, you know, soI wouldn't have fit for him. I'm
glad that Chuck Norris wasn'tthat role. I think he's great,
but I don't think he could haveportrayed it as evil.

I'm just wondering if Chuck Norris has
ever played bad guy. He doesn'tplay bad guy

play tough guy like lone wolf McQuade? He was
tough. Yeah. And then bad guy.
No, he's not a bad guy. And thenTexas. What was that? Walker,
Texas Ranger of Walker, TexasRanger. It was more of a silly
campy.

Yeah, but he's always good guy. Is it good guy?
Yeah.

So I don't know.
I mean, they got the right guy.
Yeah, he's pretty nice. If he'sin karate or not. He didn't even
have to do much does hispresence

he never does karate in the movie. Yeah, he
looks like

a GI Joe figure.
He just looks like he's chiseledout of some other, you know,
like, Eastwood.

Yeah. Well, speaking of Gi GI Joe and
Eastwood, when they first gointo the dojo, you see some
items on the wall. Yes. And oneof those is some sort of Vietnam
shot that shows that Chris was aveteran of Vietnam. So a Vietnam
War veteran turn sensei. Butspeaking of Eastwood, Eastwood

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son, Clint Eastwood son, notScott, not Scott Kyle Eastwood
auditioned for the role ofDaniel. And then when he didn't
get the part, his father, ClintEastwood banned all Coca Cola
products from the sets of allhis movies, because at that
time, Columbia Studios ownedCoca Cola at the time. So that
was Clint Eastwood way ofgetting back at Columbia for not

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casting his son, Kyle Eastwood,to play Daniel. Because guess
what others famous and we have,as you mentioned earlier, Steve
McQueen. So we have SteveMcQueen son in the movie, Clint
Eastwood is like, Oh, you're notgoing to have my son in the
movie? Well, no Coca Colaproducts on my set. So

Steve McQueen son was a real legitimate karate
expert. And he also wasn'tDaniel. Yeah, you know, I mean,
Daniel was going to the rightguy, Ralph. Macho was the right
guy.

Well, he's the right guy. But at the same time,
other actors who were consideredfor Daniel, Sean Penn at one
time considered see Thomas Howeconsidered I could sit him doing
it, you can see see Thomas house

because he's got that sympathy, you know, more
than Chompin too tough. Yeah, itcould have been Johnny,

while Sean Penn at the time turned down the
offer. I don't know if he everauditioned but turned down the
offer, because he thought hewanted to do more adult roles at
that time. You know, these guysare like in their early 20s.
Well, I could either go back andplay high school again, or
college or I could play adultroles. But you also had Charlie
Sheen, also considered for therole,

Charlie may have been able to do it. And

I forgot about Charlie Sheen's early roles. I
forgot what he did early on.

Well, young guns is the first time I remember him
coming on the same. Oh, and thenLucas, what am I saying? Of
course, he was in Lucas withCarrie green and Corey Haim.
Okay. And he was also in youngguns, but his brother was much
bigger at the time. Yes. See,Tom is how had that persona he
would have been a good. Anotherchoice. Tom Cruise also could

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have probably done it.

Yes. So you're looking at grabbing from the
outside.

Everybody in the outsiders like yeah, unravel up.
Now. Rob was too pretty boy, hewould have had a hard time
having sympathy for him. Ithought Ralph mucha was great.
It was like the role he wassupposed to have.

Well, what's interesting is when you look up
all this trivia on who wasconsidered for any given role,
it doesn't say anywhere how theyfinally landed on rough Machiel
how they got back to rough machoafter all these other guys.

Yeah, that's a question for RAF macho, we will
have definitely going to have toget him on one of our shows. All
right, so now the Cobra guys arecoming bearing down on Daniel on
his bicycle, and having watchedthe same, it's a little comical,
so they come rolling up on him,and there's a massive Hill and
watching the saddle. I justthought if they didn't trip him,

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they didn't do anything. Theyjust kind of got close to him.
And on his own, you know,momentum. He took himself down
the hill and wiped out androlled and everything and I just
thought if Danna just stopped,his bicycle got off because he
hadn't really done anything tothem. They were more heckling
him. He probably could haveavoided some of the situation.
But he just kind of he gets inhis own way. Sometimes

they did what you would call running him off the
road. But I would have said aptwas sure maybe not the full
because you see always goingdown and all of a sudden boom
you hit something.

Well the bike so I watched this just before we
came on the bike literally goesabout five feet. Yeah, not
crushed and then he got ascratch on it. Next time we see
the bike, it's got a crackedtire frame, and he's thrown in
the dumpster. Yes, that's okay.
That's movie magic. I get it.
But it wasn't as bad as we wereled to believe

the bicycle that Daniel was writing was a
mongoose. Right after the moviemongoose sales skyrocketed. And
the reason why I may getbicycles like diamond backs and
mongoose is confused is becausein real life, what fights a
snake among us. So in theneighborhoods where I grew up
in, you either had a diamondback or you had a mongoose, and

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you ran with a different crowdif you run a diamond back versus
a Mongo kit. Oh, after KarateKid, you want Cobra Kai's could
be on a diamond back anothersnake or the mongoose. 14 right
killer snake killer The KarateKid crowd on the mongooses and I
myself I'm proud to say I had aBMX mongoose,

so that that was done on purpose that that's his
mongoose to fight off theCobras.

Well, I like to create parallels and I'd like to
create meaning I will takesomething meaningless and put
meaning if it makes sense to me.
So when I look at the bike he'son which is a mongoose, and
mongoose is five snakes and whatare Cobras? They are snakes.
Yes. Wow. Alter mind blown.

Wow, that should be like the subtitle. So after
the Wipeout on the hill,meltdown ensues. By the time he
gets home and throws his bicyclein the dumpster. His mother is
just now getting home. So youknow his ordeal took a while,
also had to ride along way. He'sjust kind of melting down in
front of his mother. He's sad.
He's beat up. He's been beat upseveral times. Now who overhears

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this entire exchange?

Who's eavesdropping?

I don't even know he's just there. His little shop
is right there. But Mr. Miyagihere's this whole thing comes
out. And we as the audience, yourealize like, Oh, this guy is
probably going to intervene insome way. Yeah. We don't know
how. But we don't even know whathe's capable of, at this point.
Sure.

We just know that he's the maintenance guy of the
building. In fact, that'sanother thing that I thought
about is originally when wefirst see the original meeting
between Daniel and Mr. Miyagi.
It's Daniel coming down to askthem to fix the sick. Now,
today, you send an email to yourbuilding maintenance. And that's
what I do. I send an email to mymaintenance. And then they send
a maintenance guy, I would nevergo down. There's nobody to go

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down to there's no maintenanceguy living there. So this also
represents another era wheremaybe there was a custodian on
site. Yeah. You just don't seethat.

Well, in fact, I thought after that scene,

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he lived there. That's what I thought too. Yeah,

I thought that forever until we'll get there.
But we find out he doesn't livethere. No, that's just his
office. So in fact, at one afterwe realize he doesn't live
there, we never see him thereagain. We only see him at his
house.

Once you see his house. I wouldn't want to live
there either. Yeah, he's got acool set.

Got it. Who knew he's just been stashing away
money and has no you know, nokids and no wife. So we're back
at school. And Daniel runs intoalley and he turns down a trip
to the arcade with her ownfriends, because he sees the
Cobra Kai's at school.

I didn't really understand that was that when he
says goodbye to Ali like I gottaget here. Exactly. Yeah.

And he's wearing and let me just point this out.
He's wearing fatigue pants witha plaid button up with a white
shirt and bright red collarunderneath. I'm a product of the
80s and I would never put allthose things together. I don't
really know he looks like anidiot. But yes, so he sees Cobra

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Kai at school. She wants to gooff site to an arcade. But he
doesn't even want to walk aroundthem. And he bowed out and runs
home. So he's really becoming anintroverted scared, runs back
home.

And he did what anybody who was antagonized by,
you could call it a gang. Imean, it's not officially a get
street gang as we would know agang but they're a gang. That's
true. They're a gang. And theythreatened him. You see them at
school. So you walk the otherway.

It's a pretty healthy dose of bullying for
sure. They did never

use the word bullying, which is a very
popular word. But never was theword bully used. It may have
been used if this movie weremade today, because that's what
was happening is he became thenbullied. But he just took off to
avoid being bullied. Yes. Whichanybody would probably do. I
mean, what are you gonna do? Youcan't stand up to these six
karate guys. I mean, come on,

but I would have told Ali I'll meet you at golf
and stuff. And what right aroundthe Cobra guys? I'm the champ
Pac Man. Oh, yeah. Miss Pac Manat that. So now Daniel goes
home. And there's this bike.
Perfect condition the mongoose.
Yeah Amazing. And youimmediately know Mr. Miyagi.

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He's got to kind heart. He's gotsome skills. Yeah, that bike
look better than it looked whenhe wrote it for the first time.

Sal Rodriguez (01:00:11):
Yeah, cuz you know what it takes a lot of
skill to true a rim. Yeah. Doyou know what it means to true a
rim? It means you got to take arim from bent to straight. That
takes a lot of time andpatience. Which Mr. Miyagi,
obviously he's

Jason Connell (01:00:25):
got that. Yeah.
So he brings in, I mean, this islike the best. Not the best.
This is like one of the firstbonding scenes between them, and
not only fixes the bike Danyagoes to thank him. And he brings
him in and gives him a bonsailesson. Yeah. And it's pretty
cool. I gotta say, Are you intobonsais at all? So

so the bonsai trees I totally love. I have a
couple. My brother in law's abonsai master teaches bonsai
workshops.

I did not know that I've always been fond to
them. Yeah, there's had a fewhad a few at my office and I
never really understood thetrimming aspect but I love the
miniature tree thing and you'rea big collector so I could see
you also liking them but I like

when he tells him close your eyes. Yes, imagine
tree and then turn the back ofthe tree goes. Remember tree
make into tree. Very simple. Youdon't get any much more simple
than that. And that's whatthat's the whole key to Mr.
Miyagi. Right? It's itssimplicity. Yes. Very, very
simple.

So then Daniel's mother joins them

she gets a tree Yes. So she offers to pay him
for the for the bike.

He says no, I will not take your money. And
now he realizes Daniel has nofather figure Yes. And he's in
need of help. And so he's takingon that role

so maybe Mr.
Miyagi has no son we don't knowwe don't know yet. We never hear
well, we hear later. We hearlater about children. Yes, we
do. I completely forgot. I'llget into that. So trees for Oh,
yes. Now I remember what you'retalking about the kid. Okay.
Let's not give that away. No,no.

Deep. So trees for everybody. Yes. Mr. Miyagi
is the man he's giving everyonebonsai trees, BTS, and a few
beats later, Mr. Miyagi iscarving up pumpkins for
Halloween. This guy is superfestive. Yeah, like a
renaissance man. Really? When Ifirst saw him, I thought, this
guy kills it. I could see why hekept coming back to play this

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character is amazing. Yeah. Sohe's doing the Halloween bit.
And off camera. He buildsDaniel, a great costume for
Halloween. Because Daniel comesback. He doesn't want to be with
the kids. And his new, you know,mentor, father figure helps them
and if you watch that scene,again, it's kind of funny. You

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can see the shower curtain andthe rod in the back. Yeah,
there's a four shot right thereagain. And so bam, there we are
at the dance. And how did Allieknow that was Daniel as the
shower curtain?

When she said that's Daniel. And then I think
a friend says how do you knowand she says, I just do
something like that. I did notknow how she knew that. That was
Daniel. I mean, did we ever seehim build stuff, create stuff
wear costumes? I don't know howshe knew that was Daniel. Maybe
has a sixth sense. Maybe?

I guess she knows he likes to hide in plain sight.
Okay, I'll go for

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that. You know, she.

She figured it out. But yeah, I thought how
does she know that?

It was kind of a money outfit. When she came over
and he helps a curtain andbrings in and closes the
curtain. That was pretty cool.
Like that's pretty provocative.
And my school that would havehad to be clear. You could not
have gotten away with that.
Well,

I'm always looking for the first kiss or
the first makeup there. Theywere in the shower together.
They didn't get fully clothedlike weird science. They didn't
kiss. They looked. They kissedit golf and stuff. Yeah, they
didn't kiss in the shower. Now.
Well, they weren't in there verylong. It wouldn't make it if
that were me.

So she gives him a flower. And then she Ali goes
on about you know, Johnny'sgonna get his do someone's gonna
stand up to him. He opens hisshower curtain. There's a
chicken, someone just as achicken. And they joke about
real eggs. And Daniels hit withan egg.

By the way, that person in the costume. You
remember Bobby? From the BradyBunch? Yes. Okay, Bobby's
brother Peter. No, no. Bobby'sreal life, brother. Larry. I
don't know. Bobby's real lifebrother was in that chicken
soup. That's a little bit oftrivia.

That is a it's a lot of trivia.

It's an odd trivia Bobby's neighbor. Bobby's
neighbors cousins. Roommate.

So Daniels hit with an egg. Yes. He's gotta go
clean out. Yes. And what is hedoing? He's in the restroom.

That's when he does the well. Johnny is in a
stall rolling a joint joint.
Definitely a joint interest.
Yeah, he went up a notch andcoolness at that moment. Yeah,

he's got his headphones on which we've
established Johnny in school,like many scenes earlier having
his headphones on in a class. Sohe's got his headphones rockin.
Yeah.

And you don't know what he's listening to do.

It's probably something heavy. I think you do
hear it

later or something like that. Probably.
I'm imagining a A guy like thatwould have been probably into
some metal. Maybe Metallica wasMetallica around them.

Yeah, definitely in the 80s. Yeah. I have to say
before I don't know if someonewas around heavy. I know Slayer

was definitely around. Yeah, I mean, he's an
Iron Maiden and how aboutthey're listening to Motley Crue
that he's probably listening toMotley? He's not listening to
Depeche Mode. Not listening toflock of seagulls. No, what's
your cool, but not for Johnny.
So he's in there rolling.

He's listening to something heavy.

Yeah. And then Daniel takes us water hose, and
does this prank where he puts itover the stall and then turns on
the water and gives Johnny adose of water.

And I say why?
You finally got Cobra Kai's togive you a little distance.
They've not attacked you lately.
No. You know, like, let sleepingdogs lie. You're with Ali on the
dance floor in the shower.
You're with the hottest girl inschool and she's dumped him and
she's into you. But you've takenwhat she said. And you want to
retaliate

or we're gonna get into where he gets chased
and causes an automobile x threecar. When that happened. Really?
I'm thinking Are you serious?
You just cause an auto accident.

This is Daniel with his no is not a very good
chess player. No, Daniel comesout of the gate. Yeah, he's one
man. There's like eight Cobraguys, why not just stand there
and cover up in your outfit? Orwhy not just hide in the stall.
He tries to run for it. Run forit as a shower as a shower. I

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wouldhave ran to the nearest school
attendant and said these guysare picking on me. I'm one man
against eight but he runs in themiddle of the street outside.
And the parking lot. Three carsliterally crashed. Looks like an
episode of chips. He jumps onanother cars hood. He almost
takes a hit. Yes, that's right.
And he runs for the fence. Yeah.
And the Cobra guys are coming.

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They're on his tail on his tail.
They're so cool. They're wearingcool skeleton outfits too.

And I'm thinking there's no way he's gonna get
away. Look how close he'sdressed as a shower. Yeah,
there's guys on his tail andskeleton outfits. This guy's not
getting away.

I mean, Ali buys him five seconds with the
tripping. Yeah, which was nice.
Okay, that was good. She got hisback. But that didn't buy him
enough time. Yeah. So when I'mwatching this scene, what cracks
me up is he jumps over a fence.
It's another one of those realeerie fields, you know that? It
looks like there's almost likefog coming up. And he's going to

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mate across his field, hisapartments right there. So Danny
lives two minutes from school.
That's the logistics.

I would never run to my house. Because I don't
want them to know where I live.

But he lives that close. Yeah, I wouldn't have
left school.

He lives running distance. Oh, if I'm

Daniel, I run and pull a fire alarm. Yeah. You
know, but he's not very smart.
So he makes it all the way tothe gate looking at his parking
lot. And what happens?

He's climbing the gate. Yes. And right at that
moment. I think one of them wasa Johnny. I'm not sure if it was
John, one of the Cobra Kai grabshim, pulls him. I'm surprised he
made it that far. That's true.
He's a pretty good runner. If hemade it that far, because they
would have should have caughthim back in the parking lot.
Really. They were hot on histail. He makes his way climbing
up almost to the top one of theCobra Kai gasm. They start

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wailing Oh, Johnny, I think itwas Johnny's like let me have
him right now. Johnny's mad.
Yeah. Yeah. Because Johnny's theone that he pranked in the
bathroom. And Dutch is also mad,but he's always mad. Yeah, he
just has that about him. SoJohnny is giving them some give
me a little one to write givingthem some kicks and some
punches. Yep. And then oh, andthen even one of the Cobra Kai

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says, Okay, that's enough.
That's fine. That's when Johnnysays I'll say when it's enough
or I'll decide when it's enough.
Yep. And then he's about to gethim again. But we

see something lurking in the background. Mr.
Miyagi has slowly climbed. Thefence which is unlocked, by the
way, and jumps intersectsJohnny's impeding kick, and
takes Gianni down and thenliterally goes into a mirage of
great moves and takes out everyCobra Kai.

Yeah, well, that to be exact was stunt double.
Fumio dimora Yeah, that makessense. So what happened in that
scene is more cool trivia isFumio tried it with the actors.
And they had to do take aftertake after take and the actors
were complaining. He's kickingus to her. I mean, these people
are actors. In the end, they'renot official martial artists,

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not competitive martial artists.
So production, they're not blackbelts. No. Okay. So what
happened is then Fumiya says,let me use my guys. He brings
his students they put on theskeleton costumes, and they bang
out the fight scene, which somepeople say is one of the
greatest on camera fight scenes.
It's good. They bring it out inone take.

Yeah, I was smart. They were on the skeleton
outfits or faces are made up andJohnny someone has his hair. It
was perfect. Yeah, they nailedit. Yeah, I watched it again
today before this thinking likeMr. Miyagi is doing pretty good
there. I mean, they brought himin for the close up. So

But I guess the two guys gonna be tricky flips
the two Exactly, yeah. Whatcracked

me up about that sequence was the fact that after
he goes and helps Daniel up andtakes him back to the place all
you see from the Cobra guys isjust a little bit of moving.
Yeah, no, they're not audibleanymore and it's like, yeah,
okay, that's a bit far fetched.

You think they would have started getting up by
now?

I mean, their pride was more hurt than they
were it's not like he took deathblows Yeah, but whatever. He's
bested them. They're beaten.

I could have sworn there was audio like oh
there's that

but no one's saying anything Cobra Kai style
no mercy I think they would havegotten up and had like another
round or something. So cut toMr. Miyagi is helping you know
Daniel, heal up with someOkinawa medicine. Yeah. And
agrees to go to the Cobra KaiDojo to talk to the sensei to
have them stop picking onDaniel.

But originally he turns it down at first. Daniel
asked him will you go with me?
Doesn't he say something likethat? Will you go with me and
Mr. Miyagi at first says no.
Yes. So then I think Daniel getsmad. Right. He tends to do that.
Yeah, he gets angry. And then Ithink then Mr. Miyagi does a
turn and says, Okay, fine. I'llgo with you. He got his way.
Yeah. So basically, Danielthrows a tantrum. And then he

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gets his way.

That is a constant thing. So and Mr.
Miyagi has a it's a greatmoment. It's small. It's poetic.
It even even here that littleMiyagi music comes in. But as
they walk away, because he'sasking Mr. Miyagi, what belt? He
is, because obviously, you know,Daniels consumed by belts having
seen the Cobra Kai's, Mr.
Miyagi, gives him some wisdomand says, karate is here, and

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his head here and his heart andnot here where a belt is, yeah,
it's a great moment. And so thenext day, we're with Mr. Miyagi,
and who we find out does nothave a license. And nor does
Daniel for that matter.

So got that he didn't have a license. That's
what he says. We had Daniel'sdrive them

and then Daniel doesn't have his license yet. So
here's to

know Wait a second. Remember, he whips out
his license, and he just got it.
That's later.

Why I said his birthday party. Oh, yeah. So
he's literally saying I don'thave my neither. So we have two
unauthorized guys bouncingaround town. Yeah. And they
drive to the dojo. Yes. Werethey in the yellow car? No, they
were in Mr. Miyagi. He's likemain car.

Okay, it wasn't in the 1948 Ford Super Deluxe
convertible.

Now, we're not there yet. Okay, but we can't
wait to get there. No, we've notbeen to his house yet. This is
the last time I believe that wesee Mr. Miyagi at the apartment
complex. Okay, because that'swhere he brought him back to
health. It was at the complex.
He's got a little workshop aslittle workshop. Yes. And so cut
to the walk in the dojo. I don'teven think Mr. Miyagi has much

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of a plan, but he's gonnaconfront this guy and see if he
can, you know, speak some reasonto him.

And well, he didn't have any plan because I
think when they got to the dojo,Mr. Miyagi, looked up and saw
the tournament sign.

All Valley tournament December 19. Yeah, I

don't think Mr.
Miyagi legitimately had any sortof plan.

We've probably hoping that it wasn't going to
be a guy light crease. Heprobably wasn't anticipating
crease. Yeah, it was like, Oh, Ican't talk or this blockhead.
Yeah. So when he gets there, youcan see that the students the
Cobra guys are injured. Dad.
Johnny's got a black eye thistime. One of them's in a sling.
Yes.

So that's Mr.
Miyagi having beaten creases,students.

Correct. And you can see Johnny whisper to crease
the sensei. And then he has allthe students fallen behind him.
So they can have this discussionat the dojo, which is a great
moment. I love the same. Sure.
And so Mr. Miyagi asked them tostop picking on Daniel. And
Chris is having none of it. Heorders Daniel to the mat. And

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he's like, not in your dojo.
It's unfair, but where, and thenhe kind of nods to the poster in
the background. And so it's onand now Daniel, who knows
nothing about karate is going tobe in the all Valley tournament.

Now wait a second, though. He didn't know
nothing. Because remember whenhe first kicks the door when he
first ready?

Okay, he's a white belt.

Okay, maybe he had he took a class. Oh, I think
that he took a while. The whythe why. Okay. So we had the
most bare minimum. Okay,

so he's a white belt. But these guys are black
belts. Yes. They've beentraining for years. Maybe all of
high school, probably most ofmiddle school. Sure. Even if
they're in the same tournament,they would not be in the same
class.

No, it's like I say about myself. Like, I've had
enough fight training, where Ican probably kick somebody's
ass. Who has had no fighttraining. Yes. But could I kick
somebody's ass? Who's beentaking martial arts for 510
years? No. So that's probably atthe level he was at. He could
kick the air and he could havekicked Freddie's ass. Yeah,
right. But he's not going tokick these nothing.

No way. And I think that's not even the point.
Miyagi just wants him to standup for himself in this setting
and then squash this thing,right? But none of us know this.
And we just assumed likeDaniel's gonna I mean, at the
time I didn't know thedifference between belts, so I
just thought, okay, he's gonnafight these guys somehow some
way. And this dojo of coursethis time is not Miracle Mile we

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are definitely in NorthHollywood no whoa yeah for this
whole sequence and you know whoI noticed is a Cobra Kai in the
scene?

Oh Lamar from Revenge of the Nerds. Yes, he's
later on in the tournament.

Yes he is. Larry says even credit

is credited Okay,

isn't it? Larry Scott who? Yes, Lamar from
Revenge of the Nerds and all ofits sequels. He was also an iron
Eagle.

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I forgot about space camp.

I forgot about the movies. But those are some
really fun ones from the 80s.

I mean, he's so iconic as Lamar, Revenge of the
Nerds. I mean, such a memorablecharacter that they probably
maybe couldn't get away withtoday.

Yes, the limp wrist did throw the javelin
throw. Yes. So I noticed whenthey visited the Cobra Kai dojo,
it's all black belts. Everyone'sblack. There is no one below
that. Wow. And so you look atthat and just think, yeah, wow,
this is quite I mean, it'sprobably an All Black Belt
session. But still, do they havethat? Yeah, there are some okay.
Yes, this class is all blackbelts. Yeah. And that's

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obviously what's most CobraKaiser that's pretty heavy

duty a class with all black but yeah. Okay. Okay.
So then look where we're at atthis moment in time, then. We
just had Halloween. That'sright. And the tournament is
winning in December, December19. To that, okay, so we got two
months to defeat the Cobra.

So it's November you're right, we got a month and
a half. To really get ready andget rolling. I got

a month and a half to defeat a black belt, or
some black more than one blackand try to become a black belt
become a black belt and,

and not just Johnny, he's the last man
standing, you're gonna get tothe other ones to get to him.

Now there are these things called prodigies.
And speaking of martial arts, afamous martial artist by the
name of BJ Penn, nicknamed TheProdigy. When he took Brazilian
Jujitsu, this guy picked it upso fast, and record breaking
time became a black belt startedbeating black belts in Brazilian
jujitsu. So it's not entirelyunheard of that somebody could
come along and just start tokick butt right away. It's so

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rare, but it can happen. So inother words, it's not so far
fetched that in two months, aperson can beat up. Remember
also there are rules. It's not astreet fight. No, there are
dispatcher

they were street fighting. When they were taking
him down with the sweeping thelegs. Daniels done. Yeah. But it
is technical. You

have officials, you have a referee private
doctor on the side. When itcomes to tournaments. It's very
protected. I fought in sometournaments. Yeah. Okay. So
there.

They take you off immediately. It's point no
point. I remember, I want acouple of tournaments. And it's
more adrenaline. You don't evenfeel anything. And headshots are
illegal. We'll get into thatlater. And so at least when I
was fighting, but you couldalways fight up. That's one
thing I remember. I was like ayellow belt at the time. And I
was we were a pretty good groupand of Taekwondo. We were called
The Wild Bunch. And you couldalways fight up. So meaning I

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could be a yellow and I couldchallenge a blue who were like
two belts up and I would beatsome of those blues.
That sounds good, but theycouldn't fight down. You know,
that would be like saying back.
Excuse me white belt, but thisblack belt is kind of
challenging. Alright, so.

So they're on the dojo. They look to the poster
they agree to fight in the allValley tournament coming up on
December 19. All Valley

karate championship December 19. I
would love to have one of theserecreated posters. Yeah.
Amazing. And so here we are.
It's like before the holidays.
And then like you said, he's amonth and a half to become a
black belt. So what do we do?
Well, next we learn for thefirst time that Mr. Miyagi does
not live at the apartmentcomplex. He drives Daniel to his

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house, which is really nice. Andhe's got land for classic cars
out front. Yes. And a littleboat. Like Oh, no. Yeah. And
this is where he's going totrain. Daniel.

His backyard is totally decked out. Totally
cool. A little bridge going overa pond. He's got some koi in the
ponds gonna pull in a pond.
Yeah, no, no, no, he has theponds. Caddyshack. Okay, so he
has the pond there with koi as alittle bridge. He's got a whole
Zen garden there. But it lookstotally cool. But it also looks
like he's putting it together aswe speak. So this could have
been like you know, something onhe's wanted to have on his

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bucket list is a nice home witha nice backyard a manicured back
lawn. Bonsai trees pond. Itlooks really beautiful, a little
helper. And an assistant. Evenwhen Daniel first arrives there
first thing he says oh, this isbeautiful. That's the first
thing out of his mouth when hewalks in there.

So I read that they actually tore that house
down in the 80s

Don't make me cry. I know. Well, like I said I
am I am pleasantly surprisedabout the seven seas apartment
because so much is going down.
So the fact that that went downis not surprising.

And Cobra Kai does have a recreation so there
is an New Miyagi house that toydoes live on. But that
particular one I read with that.
So we go there first lessoniconic wash and wax the cars wax
on, wax off.

We don't know as the viewer, if you've never seen
the movie you don't know knowthat this is part of the
methodology.

You think it's this madman has taken advantage
of Dan, not a madman. But youthink it's this guy who's going
to just have a helper all of asudden? Sure. And maybe if he
helps enough, he'll give himsome less. Yeah, exactly. That's
what he thinks. Can

you do a good job on my cars? Then we'll start
your first lesson. Yeah, cuzhe's

not a bad guy.
He's already saved him fromgetting beaten up. Yeah, he
brought him back to life. Youdon't know the plan. My question
to you is, how are their fourclassic cars outside? And why
are they exposed to the elementsof the valley? Because these are
beautiful cars.

Yeah, and they were without covers and
especially the main yellow carwhich is a 1948 Ford Super
Deluxe. And we'll get into thata second. The difference between
this car and the car that lookslike it from Greece and the car
that looks like it from Back tothe Future. But none of the cars
have roofs they are all I thinkI don't know if there are some
have roofs Okay, no, I'm sorrythat what that one does not the

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all the 1948 Deluxes do not haveroofs beautiful car. They're a
fantastic car. But yeah, youleave it's sitting out. It's
collecting dust it's gettingrained on? No, those cars would
not be in that shape. I'massuming off camera again. You
can't type every loose end likeyou say off camera the cars
recovered at night. And maybe hejust uncovered him when he knew
Daniel was coming let's

hope because it breaks my heart to see them
sitting there and knowing howhot it would get out there. Oh
yeah, it would be too much no noyou know they're not in bad
shape. They don't have sundamage. They're a little dirty
and that's about it. Sure. Now Idid read that Ralph macho did
receive this car as a gift wasat the director who gave him the
car John Appleton who we haven'ttalked about much and I guess we

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could have a quick no I wouldlike to definitely talk about
that directly. We should havetalked about him earlier so John
Allison directed rocky yeahamazing came back to Rocky five
did other really

turned on Rocky to Rocky but did not turn down
Karate Kid two and Karate Kidthree he should have turned down
three. Okay, so he directedthree Karate Kid movie starting
with Karate Kid then Karate Kidtwo then credit get three.
That's pretty interesting.
Actually. You don't hear a lotof franchises. Having the same
director coming back at all?
Really? I mean, look how manyIron Man movies when we have a

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director come back look aboutsome a Spider Man movies. Do we
have a director come back? That

was John Fafa.
The first two okay, he did thefirst two George Lucas only did
the first Star Wars and cameback into those weird ones in
the middle.

Okay, awful. You just never heard of the same
director back to back to back.
Yeah, it's weird. And he also

did the movie neighbors, which is a
interesting dark comedy, which Ilove. But it was horrendous
shoot. But I've always admiredJohn Adelson and he
unfortunately just two yearsago, we lost him he passed away

what talk about iconic recipes. Talk about
iconography. He directs rockyturns down rocky two, but does
not turn down Karate Kid tomaybe he learned his lesson.
Maybe he did learn a lesson andalso another bit of trivia. Our
director here. John Albertsonwas also the original director

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of Saturday Night Fever from1977 but he pulled out and then
he was then he was replaced byJohn Batum. who you may remember
from other live well, I'm notgonna get into John Batum. But
the point is, is that thedirector of Karate Kid was the
original director of SaturdayNight Fever. Good boy. He did
rocky when they do the montageRocky in Karate Kid. You have to

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think of rocky on top. Butapparently the director is known
for montage. That's that's oneof his devices.

The Karate Kid has a lot of that rocky spirit.
Yeah, you know and you could seewhy it was in his hands and
rightfully so the rock it was itwas beautiful. Those are now the
seagulls whatever I don't care Imean, he came back he did rocky
five which was a miss at the boxoffice and I didn't like it
compared to three and four. Buthe got it right those times

the song you're the best. Well we're gonna get
into that now. We're gonna getto that now.

Let's wait. Are we let's wait because I have a
whole thing on Okay, God, let'shold off because we've i but
there's a tie in with Rocky, weprobably have a lot of things
wait for the song to come on. SoDaniel's doing his first lesson.
Not real thrilled about it. Butbefore he does the first lesson,
Mr. Miyagi makes him take theoath. I'm your teacher. You have
to agree with everything. Noarguing, and so he's got him. So

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boom, he does first lesson. Nextthing we know

he doesn't want to wax cars. But he agreed to do
whatever Mr. Miyagi said.

And so far, Mr.
Miyagi has not led him astray,although he's got him in a
tournament that he can't handle.
But he has had his back everystep of the way. So he's going
to follow along for now. Sowe're off on a date with Ali and
Daniel and his mother. Oh, andthis same this is like it's

where they pick up Ali from her house. Exactly.
And then the parents see the boyfrom receita

this scene is awesome. This is hard to watch
is like that same from swingerswhen he keeps calling Nikki on
the answering machine. Like thisis the scene that you never want
to be the poor guy but you gottayou know gone out with like a
much richer girl, but then theysee your mom and your car and
what do they got to do to getthe car started?

They got to push start the car in hobby the

clutch and they let Ali do it and her parents
are just like, they're justleaving the club. They got their
tennis, like, bigs I roll sighlike and you can see when Daniel
gets out of the car, he's justbeside himself.

Well, you would imagine the parents are just
thinking, this is a phase.

So what algo slumming tonight. Yes, exactly.
That's all it is. If that oneoff day, but

I understand because I personally, I've
always dated up. Yeah, sobelieve me. I know.

Good job. So Daniel meets the parents and
much like seven seas. I'vedriven by the House still stands
in Encino Hills still isbeautiful. And it's right there.
I mean, I mean, I've stoppedtwice and taken a couple of
photos of it. So

I wonder if that happens to them all the time.
Like the Brady Bunch house. TheBrady Bunch house is over here
in Studio City. Yep. Well, theysold that recently. Right. They
did sell it recently, I think orthey were gonna make a reality
show about it. But you know, youhave these iconic houses that's
more iconic because that's theBrady Bunch house. Well, if
you're a fan of the movie KarateKid,

but you never I mean as much as I liked it. It's
not like we ever went in alleyshouse. No. So it's just to me
it's it's a really that scene.
That scene is what you remember.
Yeah. Oh, is it right here andthey pulled away it's cool. But
Brady Bunch is a whole I mean,how many scenes went on and I'm
assuming they shot on maybe theyhad

the Brady Bunch was only used the houses on the

exterior exterior? Yeah. Okay, that makes
sense. But still that shows so

I'm trying to bring up the seven C's apartment
and Ali's house to the level ofAmityville house, or Brady
Bunch.

I like that. All right, let's get it up there. So
anyway, I drove by go check itout. Don't knock on the door.
Just drive by. But it'sbeautiful Sally here. Yeah. Hey,
got pop the clutch. So greattimes on their date at golf and
stuff, which I've actually beenwanting to visit and it is out
in

Norwalk, Norwalk.
And so is it still there? It'stheir waterslide and all great
reviews. Oh my gosh, I neverknow because you know, going
back to a little bit of SanFernando Valley history. We in
the San Fernando Valley had notone but two water slides. We had
a water slide on with Syd andvanowen. We had a waterslide in
Northridge on Nordoff. nearTampa, between Corbin and Tampa.
We had two water slides here. Sohere. That would be funny. Here

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in the Karate Kid. We have awaterslide and it's still
standing today and

it gets great reviews. I was gonna go on a
date there recently at thePutnam park just to try it out.

That's fantastic.
I would totally go because youknow why? Maybe I don't want to
spend all the money forhurricane harbor or Soak City.
Oh, I want to pay, you know,10 $15 Instead,

we should have a podcast outing.

That would be fun. All right, in the
waterslide today, Toady. Well, I

want you to the waterside. I was when I go on
the arcade. I'm an arcadejunkie. Okay,
can you miss Pac Man? All right.

So that pinball machines there? They probably
don't have games. You know, theyopen up a pinball place over
here on Lankershim. I believe itYeah, right. arcades are driving
$10 for one hour, unlimited playof pinball machines. Well, there
is

a barcade downtown named 82. Good Year,
and they have classic games andpinball, and I've loved

Unknown (01:28:30):
my quarters, Old Quarters. I like it a quarter of
the hour.

And the beers are great. And I've taken my soccer
team there before and we had therecord for Pac Man that night.
It was over 100,000 Miss PacMan. It's a sped up version. You
know, so

let's talk about this faster than Pac Man. Oh,
no. This

is like a new sped up version. She's moving
triple time. You gotta movefaster, but I'm at screens. I've
never made it to as a 12 yearold. So 11 year old me is
looking you saying hey, welldone, sir.

Since we're bragging, I can flip Galaga I'll
have you know,

that's pretty impressive. Okay, so great time
at the arcade. Yeah, they'rehaving a nice date. Great date.
Yeah. And then the end of theday Cobra Kai comes rolling up
although they're kind of cool.
They say hey, Ally, you canbring your friend with you. And
then missile Russo rolls up inthe frame and they're like, like
your car Mrs. LORUSSO andDaniel's just like not happy and

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now he's got this horrible moodgoing and that's how the date in

Okay, well, that moment where they roll up and
then they say to Ally can bringyour friend Yeah, that was a
weird moment. I'm thinking whatare they doing here? They were
following their senseis orders.
Yes. But I mean, you don't thinkthey were gonna

know I don't think that way they think they
just wanted to hang out with Aliand they were just gonna kind of
go along with it. Also couldhave changed history

he could have been a member of I keep waiting
for.

I want to change history. History revisited.

You made me see these fine lines between Daniel
becoming a Cobra Kai I neverthought of that before. Yeah,
when he goes to the dojo thefirst time. This time, he could
have jumped in the car with Ali.
Everybody could have sayDaniel's cool. Yeah, you know,
could happen at this point theycould see. Wow, Daniel might
actually be a good Cobra

Unknown (01:30:13):
Kai. Exactly. Yeah,

I know he's willing to stand up for himself.
He's willing to fight.

There's nothing like play. So I'm playing
competitive soccer leagues. Andwhen I see a great player we go
against, I admire that. But ifthat player ever wants to be
part of our team, I am the firstto bring a great player in the
fold. Sure, because a greatplayer will find his way onto
your team. And he'll fit inbecause that's what great

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players do. And so they'reloyal. But usually you want to
go and want them in yourfoxhole. So yeah, Daniel and
Johnny probably get along verywell. And the Cobra Kai yeah,
you know, reality, but wewouldn't have a movie, we
wouldn't have a million spinoffs or sequels and whatnot.

In fact, I'm kind of thinking, Daniel getting into
Cobra Kai, when they call itooh, syrup, unsurpassed. Yeah.
Johnny Johnny.

Wow. And they both
could just talk about Ali. Well,we can get into another so cut
to Daniel's back at Mr. Miyagihis house. Secondary training
today, sanding lessons, rightthe circle Yes, left a circle.
Yeah, the whole porch and hisdeck is massive. Yes. Beautiful,

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different layers and you knowwell constructed. So Daniel
didn't really fight this secondtime. He's not that upset. He's
boy

he starts joking when he gets the Sanders he
starts at Hyde Krishna startsbeing a jokester. Yeah Oh, and
that's when Mr Miyagi says.
Danielson always much humor.
That's right so then he that'swhat he teaches them right sand.
What's the secretary of wax onwax off

Unknown (01:31:46):
right the circle left this Okay, there we go. All
right, this circle left thisBreathe in. Breathe out. I love
how

Mr. Miyagi just keeps saying it and he just
fades out. He always lets Danieljust work on his own, which is
great. When Mr.

Miyagi retires to his place a Daniels out there
working. I was wondering whathe's doing in there watching TV.
What's he know?

I don't think he has a TV. Sometimes he was
meditating. Oh, yes. Sometimeshe goes fishing, which we'll get
to. Yes. And sometimes he getsdrunk. No, he's gonna get there
working. learning karate. Sookay, next day Daniel does the
impossible. What does he do? Helost me. He snags a fly with the

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chops. Oh, yes. Yes. As soon ashe walks in, Mr. Miyagi is back
at it and you knew it was gonnahappen. Well, hang

on, let's back up once because there's a moment in
time after he finishes with thewith the deck. And it's
nightfall. Yep. And Mr. Miyagi,I think comes out picking his
throat like he just had a nicemeal. Right? And Daniel's like,
Oh, my shoulder, right. He'scomplaining. And then Mr. Miyagi
says, Come back tomorrow. 6amAnd that's when ganache goes.

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What the hell am I doing? Youcan tell he's thinking, what are
we doing right? What am I doinghere? And then he shows up at
6am Pretty much bright eyed andbushy tailed. I was surprised
after the night before he seemeddownright pissed. But that's
when he shows up then at 6am andMr. Miyagi is then at that
moment trying to catch the flagwith the chopstick Yes,

yes, this is the third day. The point of him
catching the fly was that he cando the impossible he could do
anything now I guess that's whathe said. The first

time we see Mr.
Miyagi try to catch a fly. AndDaniel questions him Mr. Miyagi
says he who catch fly withchapstick. accomplish anything.
Talk about a foreshadow. This isstarting to make more sense to
me now. So then when Daniel doesit had been our beginner's luck.
Yeah, but we there's the viewershould know he who catches fly
with chopstick accomplishanything. So we should then know

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Okay, he's going to victory.

I figured he's at least going to represent
himself. Well in the tournament.
Yeah, but I don't know aboutbeating all of them. But you're
right. Aren't get the girl.
Right. Yeah. Because you've kindof already got the girl just
don't screw it up. So. So thislesson this day is paint the
fence? Yes. Both sides. BigBoard right hand, small board
left hand up, down, and you gotto hold that pot. You notice

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that? It's a lot. And then ofcourse, Mr. Miyagi retires. And
all three days of training havegone into the evening. Yes,
Daniel is tired. He's sore. Buthe's got good spirits, you know.
So he comes in the fourth day oftraining now cutting to the
fourth day in a row. This begsthe question, this is not

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Christmas break. Four days in arow would mean somebody's
missing some school. Where's thetruant officer? All of a sudden?
I mean, he is literally justgoing in and skipping school.
Okay,

hang on. Maybe this happened over Thanksgiving
break.

Oh, you know what, guess Thanksgiving could
be the tournament.

I'm just trying to make sense of it. All right.

Yeah. I'll give you I'll give you that. Okay, so
oversized wasstarting to really get worried.
Okay, right

over Thanksgiving weekend. That's good. That's
when you have four days spare.

I mean, I guess a good scheduler. He's got the
paint ready, he knew. So infact, we

could maybe deduce that Miyagi was looking
for a Daniel son prior tomeeting Danielson

or how many data senses he had for how many runs
and how many run ins as he hadwith a cobra guys over the
years.

Chris is like, Miyagi you again, another one of
your kids. Friday was his firstYeah, exactly. Freddy was the
original Karate Kid. That'shilarious.

So all right, so we go to this day. Daniel shows
up. Miyagi is gone. There's anote. Yes, and this is when he
loses it. No, it's like GoneFishing. I don't know. Does he
say fishing? I think it saysGone Fishing. Fishing paint
house tells him how to do it.
Yes, I decided stroke. Yes, Idecide. And it's green paint has
little arrows, arrows, and Ibelieve Daniel, crumples it up

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throws it and he's mad, but thenhe does it. He does it. Yes.
Because he said he made it. Hemade an oath. A vow. He vowed
itself to follow Mr. Miyagithese rules. And so again, it's
late in the evening. He's nearlydone. It's like a little patchy
is finishing and Miyagi shows upand lets him know that he was

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fishing. And Danielle's justblows up.

Well, no, but before that, though, Mr. Miyagi
says something like you missed aspot.

That's right.
Yeah, yeah, totally. He's notdone. And so he confronts him.
He lets him have it. Mr. Miyagi,listens. And they're arguing but
Daniels got a real sore shoulderto and Mr. Miyagi wants him to
finish. So what do we see here?

That's where he does the famous hand rubbing.
thing on. Let's see if I canduplicate the sound.

That's it. I think he I think he does this
first, though. He does a clap.
He does that in a tournament forsure. Okay, he does a clap. And
then his hands get much hotterthan ours. Because it's like
superpowers. Yeah. And he feelsbetter. Daniel.

Yeah. And some sort of acupressure EQ you heat
that you heat

Miyagi heat. And then comes what I like to call
the Kaiser. So say moment, whenDaniel is losing his mind,
Miyagi brings him over, and hashim run through everything. And
it just speeds into this awonderful exchange that he's
realizing all this musclememory. He's kind of like Jason

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Bourne. And how do all thesethings all of a sudden, yes, how
did I do

that? Show me paint the fence and and show me
wax on wax off couple times areclunky,

because it goes to bend down. And he's like,
Yeah, but when he got throughit, they worked on that. It was
really good exchange. Yeah. Andthen you knew, like, as an
audience get crystallized like,oh my gosh, he's really picking
some things up. This is actuallyworking. And well, that's where

the How comes in where you go. Oh, this is why he
did all that. Well, exactly.
This is why you

guys are so safe from usual suspects and all fell
into place. So next day, moretraining worth the ocean. Okay,
he takes so I guess

before the canoe on the lake, this is a day,
okay, same day,

first time he gets him out there and the waves
craning. And then he's on theedge of the boat, which now
we're five days in a row. So Iguess maybe Thanksgiving break,
but I'm still questioningschool. And we're not seeing his
mother and like forever.

She's been overtime at the restaurant,
she's totally Orient Express,

was doing some water balancing in the ocean
trying to stand up with wavescrashing on him. And as they
leave the ocean for the firsttime, they run into a couple of
Yahoo

called Yahoo's.
Now they who the hell these guysare drinking beer at Miyagi his
car and resting their beerbottles on his car on his
classic car who does this?

And obviously, it's a very racially charged
theme. Yeah, they're making funof him. Well, one of those guys,
Yahoo. Number one was LarryDrake. Now Larry Drake was an LA
law. Yes, he played Dark man.
Okay. And he played Dr. Google.
Okay. He grew up in Tulsa,Oklahoma. He went to my high
school, Edison Senior High. Hewas a commencement speaker at my

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graduation. Yeah. This is yearsbefore that, though. Yeah. So
I'm like, Who is this guy? Butthat's why he went on to be he
actually he's passed away aswell, which is another rest in
peace. But he played a real jerkin this role. Yeah,

I didn't recognize him at that moment.
Because I know who that I knowwhat you're talking about. When

you see it again.
When you watch him again, youyou'd see on the left or the
right. He's your number one.
Okay. He had the most lines.
Okay, it's got

the right yeah, in fact, the guy that left I
don't even know if he had anylines.

Now if I could just been one Yahoo, but it
would have been weird to haveone guy. Yeah. So it could have
a dog. I got a dog anywhere. SoMiyagi comes over and does an
impossible bottle trick, Ithink. Yeah. What does he do?

He karate. It's not a karate chop but a karate
slice because he goeshorizontal, but he does a palm
up. horizontal slice across fourbottles that ended up staying on
the car. And then he slicesthrough these bottles and knocks
the tops off knocks the top off,but not the top. But like the
top glass, the top, the skinnypart of the bottle, he knocks

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off leaves the broad part of thebottle sitting there.

So I think it's impossible. I think it's
impossible even if you had thesharpest sword in the world, it
would be impossible. Okay,

I did actually see a guy on YouTube do this.
And now that I'm thinking aboutit, maybe he got the idea from
Karate Kid. I did see a guy whomade sword so I follow this
YouTube video of how he's makingthe sword. And then at the end,
he does do that with the swordwith these bottles. So yeah, can
you do it with your hand

but the bottles would have to be held down.

Yeah secured.

I'm not even doubting that Miyagi of someone
in that elk could do it. I'msaying maybe there's someone out
there, but you got to hold thebottles down. Yeah, he's got to
hit it so

clean. Well, he'd have to have a razor on the side
of his hand. Even then

they're not secured. Yeah, it was
impressive. Sure. It would havebeen equally impressive. If he
just sliced him on they brokehim mix blew up

now. Okay, wait a second, though. If you're gonna
say that's impossible. Why isn'tPat Marita? Pat Noriyuki Marina
was 52 years old when he tookthis role on do you think it's
impossible for 52 year old guyto beat up six teenage martial
artists? No, not impossible. Notimpossible. Okay, yet the bottle
will you consider to beimpossible? Yes. Okay. All

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right. Physics. Okay. Yeah, I

don't believe it.
Got it. Okay, so that but as akid I didn't. didn't mind

how about this?
Throw the bottle up slice inmidair would love that. That
could have been possible.
Totally. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. It was just the fact that they
stayed there because I almostI've watched it again today. And
you see him kind of like beingheld somehow. Yeah. Anyway, he
scares the Yahoos impressesDaniel and presses himself.

Sure. Yeah.
Because because Daniel sayssomething like, how did you know
that? You can do that? Or haveyou ever done that before?

First time? Yeah.
Okay, so he'd never done that.
So cut to more train at theocean, this time bouncing on the
boat until Miyagi dumps him inthe water. Oh, yeah. So this is
the first time he was on theboat on the edge of the boat. So
next we're off to the Encinooaks Country Club. Yeah, so
Daniel is gonna go meet with Aliodd for him to meet Ali at the

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country club could have just mether anywhere but the country
club but he's gonna go there.
Johnny sees him in the kitchenbecause for some reason, oh,
she's gonna meet Daniel upfront. He got tired of waiting.
She got held up. So he wentinside through the kitchen.
Okay, I know. And he was peekingthrough the restaurant window.

I was curious why he went through the kitchen. He
was an invited guest and I takeit was he?

No, he was going to meet her out front. Okay, it
wasn't an invited guest. So hejust popped on right. Yeah. So
he had none of the attire. SoJohnny, of course Cobra Kai
instincts, spots him looking atYes. And lays one on Ali to make
it look like like they're makinga warm egg. And I like old
school. The old days.

Daniels looks through these you know, swing
doors of the kitchen through thewindow. Sees Johnny totally
making out with Ali are kissingonce. Well, from his
perspective, it looks likethey're making out Yeah. And
then he runs off before shepushes has a chance to push
Johnny away.

But when he runs off, What's he do? Oh,

he runs into a waiter and knocks over like this
whole giant plate of spaghetti.

That was pretty Exactly. So he's mortified.
Yeah.

Well, because everybody like the whole place
stops and sees one of thoseclassic

80s movie scene.
Yeah, the whole all the, youknow, the rich country club. It
was very Caddyshack. Thesnobbery ease. Yeah. Saw him
wipe out and laughed at him.

Sure. And Ali was receipt a boy again. Terry is

Ali. You're not still seeing that boy, are you?
So Daniel is embarrassed, runsoff and takes refuge at Mr.
Miyagi. He's who is in fullmilitary gear, and he's drunk.
Okay. So he was having a nightin? Yes, doing his own thing.
Yes. We learned some things tosave names such as how Mr.

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Miyagi lost his wife and newbornchild? Yes. And it was in
childbirth. Yes, his wife diedduring childbirth. And his son
was born it was a newbornnewborn son and what happened to
the son? They both died it was Iguess newborn and then there was
there was a problem and theylost them both.

They both died at birth. Yes, her birth and the
baby the baby died to how doesthat happen? You talk about the
bottles. I thought

it was unborn and then hearing it today they said
newborn and he And so Mr.
America doesn't tell DanielDaniel read reason the paper
Yes. What's the paper pie wouldbe in Japanese but it was an
English for Daniel's sake. Andso

well, from a lot of the trivia I've been looking
up, Mr. Miyagi was in theJapanese division of the USSR.

Okay, so hey, I think right Yeah, so it reads
that we can see it had thispermanent hole and Mr. Miyagi
knows what she's never as far aswe know, married anyone else
never had children. So this thisbond between him and Daniel is
is a special to him as it is toDaniel and a kind of a touching

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same and it's nice to see thatMr. Miyagi is vulnerable. He is

a regular man, to regular man, regular man who
happens to be a karate master.
Also though you'd be bring upwho happens to be a

maintenance man and a collector of cars.

We hear no mention ever of Daniel's father,
right? There is no Daniel'sFather,

we would have to go back to those New Jersey
scenes and see if something wassaid.

They're just taken off in the car.

You know what?
It's a question for rough mochi.
Yeah, I

don't think there's any reference to a
father. So either there's neverbeen a father or they're not
forced or whatever we

have we there was a father at some point at some
point, but we don't know. Wedon't know. Yeah. And so he's
carrying that around, too.
That's a lot of baggage. Youknow.

Okay. Yeah. So there is that bonding, and it's
very tender and sweet. Danielputs Mr. Miyagi on his bed puts
a blanket over him. That's whenhe sees the metals. That's when
he reads about it. That's whenit starts to make sense. He
starts to know more about Mr.
Miyagi, because we don't wedon't know much about Mr. Miyagi
prior to this. So that's what werealized since World War Two is
literally grieving, deceasedwife and child, which is how

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much more heartbreaking can youget, you know, and they

built this incredible place just for
himself. You know, he's prettylonely. Yeah. So I can see why
he spends time at the complex.
He's carving pumpkins. Well, wedon't know as Mr. Miyagi
probably has a bond with otherfamilies inside that complex.
Interesting. You know, if I'dbeen there forever, yeah. You
know, seven probably

has helped Freddie with his bicycle. Yeah,

totally. That old lady the dog. He's probably that
guy. And that's his family. ButDaniel needed more help than
most. Yeah. They owe this bondto Cobra Kai. Not for COBRA.
Cobra Kai has a lot to do withthis happening.

So in other words, maybe Cobra Kai is not so
bad. Yeah.

So back to training. Daniel. This time is
alone. He's taking theinitiative. And he's working on
the Crane Kick. He's in the boatby himself. I mean, maybe maybe
Mr. Miyagi is around but Danielhas stepped up his game because
it's all starting to happen.
Yeah. But I was even watchingthis thinking he isn't sparred
with anybody you know? It's alot of karate already

worked in any defense. Exactly. So well I
don't know No, no, you don't saythat the wax on wax off its
defensive is defensive. Yeah.

But then next same Mr. Miyagi is teaching him
the one inch punch. Yeah. Andhe's got the baseball field next
to the lake Exactly. Which Ithink is a Bruce Lee thing if
I'm not mistaken

with a one inch punch, I think was was Bruce
Lee.

Which was amazing. And so and there's a
little bit of Finally he'spunching something not just air
because Mr. Miyagi is wearinglike the catcher's protective
gear. And he's hitting him he'sgot the mask on. Yeah, and that
was nice to see like it was likeit was a beautiful shot. You got
the car you got the sunset, youhave the lake in the

field. It's a nice shot and then Daniel starts
being silly and starts dancingand shifting his feet around
like he's a boxer in the raceMuhammad Ali. Yeah, our Sugar
Ray Leonard Yeah, he startsbeing kind of silly. And then
doesn't Mr. Miyagi, take themdown, takes him down. He takes
it down and knock it off.

Knock it off, Dennis. So cut to Daniel's
birthday. And Mr. Miyagi can doany and everything so he makes a
great cake. He's got twopresents.

The second present. I mean, once you
they're both really cool. Butespecially the second present Of
course,

we were still the first president is an amazing gi
that's not It's not homemade. Itwas handed down. It was it was
Mr. Miyagi Gi. Yes. So he gets abeautiful GI

and peppery to actually design the emblem. Oh,
he did. Yeah. Does not have theemblem on the GI.

Oh, that's great.
Well, well done, sir. So I wasthinking during all this
training, schoolwork, avoidingCobra Kai, and plus ally time,
Daniel managed to get hisdriver's license. Yes, that's
where he's displayed. Yeah, hehas it. Off camera, of course.
And I guess he's been drivingMr. Miyagi around so much. He
probably got good at stuff.

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Yeah. So he has his license, butit clicks and Daniel's mind. Oh,
my gosh, my mother's making me aspecial cake. Yeah, his second
birthday cake. I gotta get outof here. I just remembered. So
he's in a hurry to leave andhe's got one cake there. And Mr.
Miyagi has the second gift.
Yeah.

And the second gift is where he takes him out,
shows him the four cars and saysto Daniel choose, and there's
keys in all of them. Yeah. So hegives Daniel the choice of all
the cars and of course Danielchooses the cars. Any high
school kid, probably most guyswould choose. And that is the
Cool Convertible, which happensto be a 1948 Ford Super Deluxe,

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and I stress the word super,because the carton grease that
they use in the greasedlightning scene is 1948 Deluxe,
not super deluxe.

These are the little things I always wonder
you tell us what we're lookingat here.

Well what I have in my collection because I'm a
toy collectors, I have a HotWheels, the Karate Kid, yellow
1948 Ford Super Deluxe replicafrom the movie. And that's what
had me to then discover thatthis same car was used in
Greece. And Back to the FuturebiFs car. This is a super
deluxe. That was a 1946 SuperDeluxe 46. Yeah, the Biff car

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from Back to the Future wherethe manure comes in. Yeah, that
was a 1946 Ford Super Deluxe.
The Greased Lightning car was a1948 Ford Deluxe. So on that
note sticking with 1948 This isthe only one of these Well, this
car the 1948 Ford Super Deluxefrom the Karate Kid is more
Greased Lightning. Then GreasedLightning.

Well done, sir.
That's pretty fancy.
This is a great thing. By theway. It's Hot Wheels. It's
unopened, of course. And ofcourse and the background is the
crane. This was like some of themerch that really existed. Yeah,
this

is Daniel son doing the crane on the wooden
pole. Crouch, but this is a newitem. This is from 2014. Okay,
yeah, this is not vintage. No,this is from 2014 had me Hot
Wheels came out with all kindsof recent cars. Christina, look,
Christine from the movie.
Christine, Stephen King. I gotthe grease car. Okay, I was
gonna get the Biff car from Backto the Future. But it doesn't

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look like manure. You know whatit looks like when they put
manure on there. They put manureon the Biff cars beef in it. I
don't know why they did thatbecause it doesn't even look
like that. They don't have

Danielson in there. No, that's weird. Yeah,
it is kind of weird. The Galleyin there.

But yeah, you can go ahead and get a Hot Wheels by
Mattel, the Karate Kid. 1948Ford Super Deluxe car looks just
like in the movie. And I'm proudto own it.

So when that movie came out, and he chose
that car, I remember thinking,Yes, that's a great car.
However, when I watch it now, Igot my eyes on that black car,
which was the black. It's reallystylish. There's a couple of
there was so easy to look nowI'm looking past what I know.

Because uh, you wouldn't have chosen this car at
the time. Yes.

Now, something else? Really? I've got my eyes
on a couple of other cars whenyou watch it again. Look, it's
because you've looking pastthose. Yeah. So there's a couple
style and consciousness.
Whatever missing Americans gotgood taste.

He gives him a car. He's ever given me a car.
My parents never came.

Didn't give him some old Honda Accord. Gave him
a collector's

Yeah. And then what does he do? He hops in the
car drives to golf and stuff

was so well, right. He's supposed to go see
his mom bought his birthday.
Yes. So maybe he's off camera.

That's right. He said I gotta rush off because my
mother has something i

over. I oversaw her making the cake. I think he
I hope he went by saw Mom. offcamera. Yeah. Because my you
know, maybe they shot it. Andthen he goes to golf and stuff.
Let's hope otherwise. He justhis mother, or his mom
disappears for a big chunk ofthe movie. She comes back in the
tournament, but she's gone. Soseven seas.

Yeah. So Freddie's out of the movie at
the beach. Right? We don't seehim again. Do we?

Know why? No, I think he's at the tournament.
Freddy's at the tournament totournament I've totally forgot
he's there. All said he wants toget his autograph. No, I will
show you he's at the turn. Soyou're right. So he's off. He's
doing bonds.

Unknown (01:53:25):
Yeah, that's right. As a

bonsai bonsai.

It goes to golf and stuff. And it really is to
win Ali back because she'sreally kind of fed up with
Daniel at this point. Yeah,

she's kind of fed up with his tantrums him running
off all the time. him startingstuff like at like at like at
the dance when he his dressesthe shower. He instigated that
night.

And he tried to be mad at her for what he didn't
know happened at the countryclub. Yeah, one of her friends
tells

one of her friends says Hey, you didn't see
the punch. Exactly. That'sright. So so the friend
explained to Daniel that shepushed him away and punched him.
Daniel didn't see that. That'swhen he goes over to try to make
up with Ali and he does they domake up

make up because they golf in his car. Yeah, he
lets her drive his car

that I thought was an odd choice.

He really got some points there.

I never let a woman drop Maura, not a greased
lightning. Yeah, that wasinteresting that he had her
drive. But hey, she knows how todrive stick. She popped the
clutch. Remember

that stick? Yeah.
Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Okay, Ididn't know that. Okay, so they
drive off. And so now it's here.
It is the big day. And Daniel isa black belt. But how did he get
his black belt?

Well, you're talking about how they got to
the turn. They got to thetournament. They get to the
tournament they're signing in atthe registration desk. And I
guess they have a prerequisitethe guy's like oh, what belt is
your student and then Mr. Miyagilies right he doesn't he
officially lie.

Yeah, not to planning on Mr. Miyagi as part
here not to have a belt. They'rekind of sneaking

them into the tournament sort of. Yeah. And
then Mr. Miyagi says Black Beltand Then he leans in distracts
the guy at the desk who'ssigning them in. He has ally
kind of oh it doesn't have allygrab something. He steals a
black belt with a black belt outof a bag and enhanced out that's
what happens. Okay, so he grabsAli's hand distracts the guy has

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alley the belt stolen right outof the guy's back alley takes
the belt gives it to DanielDaniel puts it out of the locker
room.

I mean, it's a ninja move for sure

it's total ninja but at the same time I'm
thinking Miss chicken Mr.
Miyagi. He's doing some scam.
Meanwhile,

that guy has a fight in a little while. He's
probably not fighting that guyis pretty badass. That guy's
probably just an overseer. Buthe's got no belt.

No, that sucks.
No, Mr. Miyagi stole his belt.

Although a guy like that probably has a second
belt. Sure

that guy well, the belt is just symbolic. You
might have 10 at home but yeah,the point is when Mr. Miyagi did
that, you know characters inmovies or TV? They'll do
something where you start tosecond guess who they are? Yeah.
So you start to think yeah, he'snot Mr. St. Innocent for sure.

You could paint a different picture if you saw him
drunk and still haven't takenadvantage of Daniel and yeah, in
hitting the beer bottles. Youmay have a different image of
Mr. Miyagi. You could

make a trailer you really got the Karate Kid
that shows Mr. Miyagi is a badguy. And crease is a good guy.
He's a good guy, Johnny. I'lljust find that

footage of Chris being very good. But Johnny
maybe. So we're at thetournament.

All roads have led to the ole Valley
tournament. And I'm thinkingbased on what's occurred based
on my experience of living inthe San Fernando Valley. I'm
thinking this tournamenttournament happens in Northridge
Northridge, probably a goodspot. Tarzana, I'm thinking that
somewhere going to be WestValley I'm not thinking this
tournament going to take placein the east valley North
Hollywood. No. Sherman Oaks No,no, this is happening West I

(01:56:41):
think it

was also once called Deep valley. No, I'm just
kidding.

Okay. So I'm thinking I'm thinking Tarzana,
Northridge maybe chats always

found that a school so we can look it up. Oh,

it was Northridge It was awesome. Okay. Yeah.
Well, they don't mention it inthe movie. Not but the location
was his Cal State UniversityNorthridge in Northridge. That's
correct. And that was preearthquake. The earthquake was
94. Yeah. 94 Northridgeearthquake. Yeah, so this was
pre earthquake. Okay.

So, we're at the tournament, and as we're walking
through and Daniel's put in hisbelt, well, first of all, the
Cobra guys give him crapbackstage, but that's broken up
pretty quickly. In the

locker room in the locker room, the Cobra Kai
comes in to intimidate. Yep. AndI think it's the referee.
Referee comes in to say, Hey,what

the heck and it wasn't even John, it was really
Dutch was kind of leading theeffort. He's also just a really
bad guy. Yeah. And so but aswe're walking through the
tournament, Mr. Miyagi has tokind of pull a fast on again,
because they don't let anyone onthe mat. And he pretended he
couldn't speak. Yeah.
Interpreter translator Yes. Andthey check them and then they
get to stay. But Ali also knowsthe rules. And she clearly tells

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Daniel, you know, headshots arelegal. It's one point and kind
of gives him the breakdown ofthe body. However, we go on to
see a lot of headshots getdeductions. Yes. And so there is
a little bit of controversythere. If you're watching the
tournament, you're seeing somenot count and which kind of
leads to the Crane Kick as well.

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Was it legal, not legal.

From what I've read, some karate experts have
said that we're at least alegitimate tournament. And
Daniel were to do the crane kickthat he would have been
disqualified. Yes. I've heardthat too. So in other words,
what we're finding out is thatthe Crane Kick then would have
been as impossible to win by asit is to slice bottles on a car.

I still think slicing bottles is more
unbelievable. However, after allthat Daniel went through with
the D cues and the takedowns ofhis legs. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I
think allowing him to have thatmoment and and Johnny had come
what we're way ahead ofourselves. We're way ahead.
We're getting there. So cut to

cut to the montage of the tournament
happening,

right? Well, right when the montage is
happening. I noticed thisearlier. Daniel is in his first
battle first fight, which is alittle overwhelming. He's a
little rusty. He's gettingpushed out of the ring. He's
pushed out of bounds and theywarn him when we're out of
bounds

and he's out of his element. Like you said, we
never saw him sparring never.

So this is like he's got to catch up with this
very quickly and get the speeddown. And he gets a point he
scores a point with like areverse or some sort of hit. We
her ally say you're the best.
And I swear that's when they cueup the infamous Joe Esposito
song, you're the best and we gointo this incredible montage and

(01:59:36):
that song immediately becomesiconic Yeah, but we have some
backstory on the song Thebackstory

I believe of the year the best song is that that
song was going to be used inRocky three I believe it was
created for Rocky three iscreated for Rocky three it was
replaced by lace by survivors. Ihave the tiger Exactly. So then
they decided to then use thesong for the Karate Kid. No,

no, no, there's another One Oh, so that was the
first Yes. And then theyconsidered it for Flashdance.
Oh, wow. And then it becamemaniac. Oh, wow. So

this song has been bumped out twice well till
it finally landed in karate.

Also the 80s had an embarrassment of riches of
like, hit soundtrack songs.
Sure. And this song is justfloating around. I mean, yeah,
it's an incredible song couldhave worked in so many movies.
You know, look at like a TopGun. You know, how many Kenny
Loggins songs if he Yeah, he wasKenny Loggins sure

way to the danger zone.

He also the Caddyshack. Yeah.

A lot of good songs over the top. In fact,
would you say that more goodsongs came out of 80s movies,
the 90s movies? I can barelyremember any songs that have 90s
movies.

Yeah, that came from the movie. Yeah, I'd
probably 80s Yeah. So thismontage is going on for a while

in a fight tournament or any tournament.
You will fight multiple times ina night. Yeah, exactly.

You got four or five fights to get them because,
again, a lot of times it's only2.2 and three points. You're
when it's over. I remember beingin them and it's more your own
adrenaline is cranking. And thatfight didn't last that long.
Sure. This isn't a boxing match.
It's going 12 grueling roundsand you're slugging it out. It's
a points. It's not that you'regoing for points and you've got
to stay fresh and you're youngand and there's some good

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fighting in this sequence you'reseeing I think you're seeing
real black belts.

Well, one of those guys definitely tournament
semifinalist Darrell Vidal. He'sgreat. Yeah, he really was
kicking butt. Yes.

And even Dutch.
You could tell. You can separatethe men from the boys. I mean,
yes. Daniel did great as toJohnny, but those other guys are
doing those really big kicks andsweeping moves. And they're
losing because they have to. Butthey're you can

tell that they actually had some real legit
martial arts experience. Yeah,it was a really well

done tournament.
And I like the whole look andfeel of it. I'd never seen a cry
tournament that point in time inmy life. And the board in the
background. I'd never been toone that had a board like that.
Yeah, that was nice to see asalways had golf board. You kept
moving up and seeing LORUSSOmove up to take the Cobra guys
and the way Chris wasincreasingly mad, as you saw,
like Cobra Kai, after Cobra Kai,not necessarily lose to Daniel,

(02:02:12):
but just getting bestedelsewhere. Or sometimes it's
Cobra Kai and Cobra Kai.

Yes, it happens.
Sure. Well, you what you startto see as crease become
frustrated. Yes. And that's whenhe starts to say, let's we're
gonna start playing dirty.

Yeah. I remember being in a tournament and making
it to the finals. And I had tofind my own guy, my own Wild
Bunch, guy. And much like insports, whatever I want to win,
but it was also a little like,ah, and I was hoping I was fight
another guy. Sure. It was like,seriously a credit card moment.
And it was too too. And we bothwent in. And I lost three guys

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still friends after that. Night.
That guy? Yes, of course. We'refriends. We need to drive home
together. So I had the secondplace and hit the first place
trophy. So we are at thetournament. And you're the best
is playing great song. AndDaniel's moving through the
ranks.

Wait, you're the best is playing at this moment
in time before the locker room?
Yeah. Okay. I thought it playsafter

No, it doesn't play in the end. Remember that.
That's a score. It's at earlymontage when he just gets his
footing. Okay. And thetournaments cruising along.
Alright, so we are listening toyour the best and it helps us
kind of get through the earlyparts of the turn. Okay. And a
Cobra Kai on Cobra Kai, somereally good martial artists and
Daniel's understanding his way.
And along that journey. He'swaiting a few too many matches

(02:03:38):
for crease the Cobra Kai sensei.
Yeah, so he orders Bobby to

finish him off.
He's not finished them. Put themdown. What

does he put him down?

Put him down. And he goes, but I can win this.

So basically DQ yourself for the team? Yeah. And
so he does.

So in other words, Chris wants to punish
Daniel.

He doesn't want to take any chances. Yeah. And
so he does instruct Bobby to whoBobby has proved himself
throughout the film, too. Yes,he's a Cobra Kai. But he's also
showed mercy every now andagain. And he takes Daniel down.
Yeah. And it gets disqualified.
And he gets DQ but heimmediately runs over and
apologize. Yeah. As soon as hetakes

him down and Daniels there writhing in pain.
He runs over to him. He says I'msorry. I'm sorry. He felt for
him. But he followed thecommands of his sensei. So yes,

he did that. And Daniel looks like he's done. In
fact, they bought a house doctorwith a white coat and
everything. White Coat. He's inthe locker room and two official
standing over with shirts thatsaid official and his mother and
his girlfriend Ali and Mr.
Miyagi. Oh, you're missing is apriest. Yeah. And he's done. And

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the doctor says, I'll go reportthis to everybody that you know,
sorry, kid. Yeah, next time.

So the doctor goes off to tell the tournament
officials that Daniel Russo Duckand that's where they're going
to start handing out the

trophy is going to Johnny Yes, DQ Here you go
forth before foot I guess that'swhat it would be. Yeah, not DQ
and the presenters great Tex,he's got a little you know,
Western outfit on and so Danieldoes not want to hear it. He
shoes his mother and Ally awayand Mr. Miyagi looks into his
eyes and then performs theMiyagi magic. And he does

that. Well, we don't see it that we cut away.
Yeah, we know what happens. Weknow what happened. He does. He
does the warm hands on his knee.
I guess it would be his knee.
Yeah, the back of his knee.
Yeah. So he does the warm handson his knee. You know we cut so
we don't but we know what'shappening. They cut and now
they're given the trophy toJohnny but then Ali runs out.

I wish I had known Mr. Miyagi before I had my
ACL repaired I could avoidsurgery is just right there
done. And so yes, Ally comesrunning out. Daniel's gonna
fight Daniel Russo's gonna fightand then the crowd just starts
to go berserk. Because we gotourselves a fight. Yeah. And
it's a good one. Yeah. You know,Daniel comes out is hobbled. But

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he's, he's moving. And they havea very good sequence better than
I remember. I mean, by now,they've probably practiced a lot
together, especiallychoreographed sequences
together. They look really good.
Johnny's looking like, you know,a pretty good martial artist.

I definitely want to agree with you on that. It is
a pretty good fight sequence. Iremember I saw a movie called
warrior that was based on mixedmartial law. I saw it. You saw
that with that.

Joel Edgerton and Joel Edgerton. Yeah. And Nick
Nulty was nominated for anOscar.

Okay, but I liked it. I've already been a fan of
mixed martial arts for so manyyears. So when I saw that movie,
I just some things just reallystruck me as fake.

I cried the end of that movie, though. I'm
sorry. Okay,

so when I see Karate Kid, though, those moves
look pretty real and prettygood.

It did. It's different because they don't
show a sequence that goes onthis long in any of the fights
so far. Yeah. This is thelongest fight of the
alternative. And they'vestretched out for a reason. But
yeah, good point. But they'vechoreographed this well. And
they also give Dan to the lead.
I mean, he's up to Oh, Johnny'sgot to rally back. So Chris
instructs him to

sweep the leg sort of delay. He added damage
to something that was alreadydone, right.

I'm surprised that Johnny wasn't D queued as
well. He was worn, but I knowit's the championship so they
may score differently inchampionship. Yeah, DQ, Sir,
we're not gonna do that. So hehurts him at the end of this
great battle. And Daniel isforced to barely put any
pressure on that leg, which justhappens to tie into the infamous

(02:07:45):
crane gang. Yes. And so we knowit's coming. We've seen in
practice that we've seen Mr.
Miyagi, practice it, but youknow, hasn't seen it. John,
Johnny has seen it.

Well, also, I don't know really know if if a
viewer sees this movie for thefirst time, they saw the montage
they saw the crane, but I don'tknow if they're going to assume
that that move they saw on thewooden post at the beach is
going to be the winning move. Atthe end.

I want to say that I remember it being it, but
I probably didn't either. And Ijust knew he didn't have much
more fight and him. Yeah. So he

needed that one superior move. And remember,
just like Mr. Miyagi saidearlier when they talked about
the crane earlier in the movie,if done, right, no can defend.
That's fine. That's fine. Sowhat is a superior move? It is a
game changer.

It's game changer.

And that's an highly illegal. Yeah, again, if
you talk to some experts,supposedly they say you would
not want to do that in atournament, you would not be
allowed to do that in atournament, you kick your
opponent in the

face. Yes. So this whole sequence to me when
he comes back from the Miyagimagical hands healing, it's very
rocky ask, what's really feedsinto the director John
Albertsons, you know,background, but unlike Rocky,
Rocky doesn't win in the firstRocky and loses to Apollo Creed.

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But he gets respect. I forgotthat he doesn't he wins in the
second one

with Rocky doesn't win in the first movie.
No, he loses

really. He loses to Apollo Creed. But the whole
thing is he's a bomb fromPhiladelphia off the street and
he took the champ to thedistance. So he was a winner.
Yeah. And his life changed. Butthen he got the rematch. Okay.
And so he won. But you just knewsomething was brewing beneath
the surface. The music wasdifferent. The score was
swelling. And when he hung inthere that long you just thought

(02:09:36):
the longer Daniel stays in thisthing. He's got a chance. Yeah.
And then the infamous thing wehave which I'm so glad you sent
me the photo from Floyd's inEncino?

Yeah, if you ever around in the city of Encino, on
Ventura Boulevard, in Encino. Itwould be just east of white oak.
There's a Floyd's barber shopand I believe that this mural
was on the building prior toFloyd's taking over the The
lease, it's across fromsomething called supercells
market. It's an Israeli marketto yours. You should be. So

(02:10:08):
right there on the side ofFloyd's is a wonderful, I call
it a mural, but it's a paintingbeautiful, and it's a beautiful
painting of that scene. Rightbefore right? When he's in the
crane position, the crane, yeah,and the roof is there with his
hand out there. And it is thatpivotal moment as Daniel goes
into the crane, and then thereferee is right there ready to
call the action. So that muralif you're ever in Encino is

(02:10:29):
there on the side of thebuilding looks fantastic.

Oh, it's amazing.
I even heard that it was therebefore the movie.

Yeah, that's how iconic that

we've got to build a movie around this.
Sorry, I studied the cranebecause I tried to bring up the
image that you sent me I wastrying to grab it real fast. No,
it's amazing. But what

I what I wanted to see because I actually
watched over and over the craneitself is what leg you're
standing on and what leg youland on. Now, the way that Mr.
Miyagi does the crane is hestands on one leg and then hops
and then kicks with that leg andlands on the other leg. A little
more simple. Well, Daniel doesthe crane if you look at the way
Mr. Miyagi did the crane at thebeach. You look at the way even

(02:11:10):
Daniel did the crane at thebeach versus the way he does it
in a tournament. You have to addin the hurt leg. So it adds a
third step. Yeah. It's not justjumping from one leg.

It's clunkier.
Yeah, but he he wind up kickinghim with the healthy leg with
the good lands on the bad leg,which, you know, they also could
have just fallen down there.
Yeah, but he didn't because hescored the point. He landed
quickly switch to the healthyleg. Yes. Yeah. You never could
pull it off on the pole on theocean. You would land on said
pole,

he would have fallen to the side. Yeah, but I
just noticed that becauseobviously that image is so
iconic of him in the craneposition. And as a fan of Mixed
Martial Arts, and I've seen somany kicks over the years. I was
like, Well, wait a second. Okay,so you're standing on this leg,
you use kick with that leg, thenyou jump to the other leg. But
then now you have the added hurtleg so you got to jump back on
to the good leg. So yeah, he hasto do a more complex crane than

(02:12:01):
if he didn't have a hurt leg.

Good point. And I would also venture to say that
the crane maybe at one point intime was indefensible post
Karate Kid. I can defense issuper defense on credit. Don't
walk into the crank. Yeah, youknow make them come to you.
Yeah. So take down music swellsalley rushes on. Daniel's the

(02:12:25):
winner. And I like how movies inthe 80s just kind of ended.
Yeah, a great sequence by theway before we forget. Johnny
comes over and he's the one thatgives Daniel the trophy. Yeah,

that's great. And always it's something like you
earn this or you deserve thisseason something like that.

I totally I remember seeing that and like
having all the empathy in theworld for Johnny like, wow, he
understood it. He respectsDaniel now no more problems.
Sure. So Mr. Miyagi is plannedand worked. All the beef is
squashed. Right. So over thewhole alley bit all of it. Yeah,
you're one of us, but not one ofus. And that's a great moment.
And then we end on Mr. Miyagi.
Who didn't bum rush this day?

(02:13:05):
No,

he'll he allowed Daniel and his girlfriend I
guess the mom also Freddie.

Who does make it appearance at the tournament.

Ready appears at the tournament. I'm your best
friend. Remember me? Remember methe guy that left you at the
beach? Remember me? So yeah. SoMiyagi, let him have his time.
And that that's something Iwould do. By the way. I let
people have their moment toshine, you know. So let them
have their moment. You wouldjust leave. Honestly. Yes.

Worse. Where's my son? He's drunk. He's gone. He
moved to Northridge.

He's wasted.
Yeah, so he lets him have hismoment. Yeah, Johnny runs up
hands on the trophy, all pieceof squash but that's not the
original way that they want itto end.

So we end on like, like in the close up
single shot close close up oflike Mr. Miyagi fly collar,
smiling kind of over this reallya cool shot, and it's over?
Yeah, we're not talking like aslow push. Or they could have
done like, a pull out and seeingall these people leaving the
stadium. But that's how theyended movies then. So I had read

(02:14:11):
The Karate Kid book. And when Isay book, back in the 80s, when
I was a kid, you couldn't getthe screenplays as far as I
knew. But they would release thebook of the movie. So sometimes
if I couldn't go see the movieright away, I would knock out
the book. And I think I'dalready seen karate kid. So I
was just reading the book. I wasso enamored with it. And the end

(02:14:33):
of the book has a scene that ispassed this sequence that is
what starts karate kid too.
Yeah. And let's talk about thatsame just to kind of end this
podcast because karate kid too,for the most part is in Okinawa.
It's a whole different story.
Cobra Kai doesn't really have apresence. Sally's not in it,

(02:14:53):
Ali's not in it. So but we'lltalk about this one opening
sequence because it's kind ofthe end of Cobra Kai for a while

yeah, cuz those The beginning of Karate Kid two
was supposed to be the ending ofthe Karate Kid.

And they did the right thing. They added one at
the right. Yes,

but the original intention was there was some
sort of thing in the parkinglot.

So yeah, so I watched just to get fresh again
because I have not seen karatekid too and got maybe since the
80s. But so it's, you know,filmed years later a few years
later, but we are now leavingthe auditorium. Yeah. And we're
in the parking lot and Daniel'shobbled but he's got his
clothes. You know, his normalclothes on street clothes. He

(02:15:32):
says Mr. Miyagi, he has thetrophy. No, mother. No ally.
Yeah. So because Elizabeth shewas not in the sequel when or
when a mother wasn't in the sea.
It was she may I don't know,that didn't keep watching, but
she wasn't in this particularsequence. Maybe they didn't have
her because where's Ali if youhave the mother? Yeah. But from
afar, you see, since the crease,not happy with any of the Cobra

(02:15:53):
Kai No, and he's really gettingvocal with Johnny. Oh, he takes
his second place trophy andliterally destroys it. shreds it
slams it, and then puts achokehold Johnny in a chokehold
and that's it Mr. Miyagi sees

what is child abuse at this moment, it's
horrible.

And all the other they're trying to come and some
some of the Cobra guys aretrying to step in and break it
up and he's like, No, he's toughenough to knock them back. So
Miyagi has to intervene. And hecomes over and asks him to
release them and he doesn't sothen he grabs I think creases
one of his arms, puts it behindhis back and crease tries to

(02:16:37):
punch at Mr. Miyagi, Miyagimoves. And he crushes a car
window whoa crazy says hey,pulls his right one of his hands
up, blood everywhere. circlesback tries to punch Mr. Miyagi
again. Again, Miyagi moves.
Another car window shatters soChris has two super bloody
knuckles Johnny's safe and Iguess Mr. Miyagi drops into his

(02:17:01):
knee and has his hand ready forlike a kill shot could easily
take him out you know shot tothe nose anywhere vital if you
don't like those bottles,totally those unbelievable
bottles. And he acts like he'sgonna take him out there's a
shot of Daniel like on lookingthinking what is Miyagi doing is
really going to kill this guy.

(02:17:24):
And he stops trying to at thevery, you know, a bridge of his
nose, and hawks, like hey,pinches his toes. It's kind of
it's a bit much lesshumiliating, it's humiliating
but Chris is like near passingout for some reason falls down
face down. And all the otherCobra Kai students are just kind
of like wow, what this happenedoh,

what were they going to drop their black belts
at them?

Did they do that?

Well that's what I read I read that they were
going to have it so that theyjust dropped they dumped their
black belts you know, out ofthis limp body crease goes down
so

ease Yeah, I know that he's got to busted hands I
get that but he's morehumiliated but then for the
after the honk on the nose hedoes for a tough guy like that
wouldn't went down like that. Icould see him being bested and
saying, fine, you got me but hejust falls down. I get passed
out. Yeah. So the Cobra guyshave now as far as I know.

(02:18:18):
That's the end of Cobra guys inthe second Karate Kid. Yeah. Now
the third one I know that make acomeback. But that's we'll save
that for a rainy day. But thisis the end of like the crease
Cobra Kai Gianni, which is whyit's a great lead into the show.

So you're saying that a viewer can go straight
from karate kid into Cobra Kai.
Bypassing Karate Kid two andthree if they want to? Yes.
Well, it's kind of like, youknow, when I've asked people who
are diehard Star Wars fans,okay, let's say I've never seen
Star Wars let's say I've neverseen any of the movies. Where
should I start? The first StarWars, which is episode four

somehow, somewhere along the way became a
new hope. But it was always StarWars. Okay, you know what the
first theatrical release the 70sYeah, and then I would watch
empire and I would go ahead andwatch return to the Jedi Too bad
the Ewoks are there and then Iwould skip ahead to the newest
ones the JJ Abrams one skipping

Clone Wars all that stuff. Okay, so there you
go. So it's not that muchdifferent here so

you're skipping to two I'm not even throwing
under the bus because two isactually a pretty good story
they go to Okinawa and but it'sit just a different story. He
has a different love and adifferent love interests and
Miyagi has a love interest. Soit's actually worth seeing but
for the sake of Cobra Kai, let'stalk Cobra Kai yeah, you can
stay in the lane and watch this.
There may be a point we want tofor special episodes explore two

(02:19:37):
and three because three there isCobra Kai presence. And there's
even the one with Hilary Swank.
Yeah. Which I never saw.

There was also an animated show for a while a
Karate Kid animated show in the80s like the late 80s

Was it Miyagi and the Russo die? No, I think

so. Yeah. Let's just back up a little bit. The
Karate Kid name was borrowedfrom DC Comics. There was a DC
comic character named The KarateKid. You see at the end of the
Karate Kid movie, they think DCComics. So the makers of the
Karate Kid motion picture,approached DC Comics and asked,
Can Can we use this name KarateKid for our motion picture? And

(02:20:16):
I guess I said no, no, no. Andthey threaten them with sweeping
the leg.

I said cleanse already pulled off a Coca Cola.
Who else is happening? So they

said, Yes. So at the end of the movie, they do
think DC Comics for the use ofthe name The Karate Kid.

I did not know that. Yeah.

More trivia.

Yes, good trivia.
So that concludes Cobra Kai, howit came into being and really
creases Cobra Kai and Johnny, wewill pick up let's talk Cobra
Kai with season one, episode oneon our next episode.

Oh, great. I'm really looking forward to that
because I have not seen CobraKai yet. Am I allowed to say
that? Yeah. Okay. I haven't seenCobra Kai yet. So this is going
to be new to me. I've reallyenjoyed the Karate Kid. I'm
looking forward to getting intoCobra Kai. I'm actually pretty
excited about

me too. And episodes will be much shorter.
This was this movie, which theydon't make movies like this
anymore. Almost a two hourruntime for a feel good movie.
Yeah, heartwarming movie,you wouldn't see that

a movie like this, you would think at about
an hour and a half hour 40.
Yeah, that's

how they do it now. So our episodes 22 minutes,
our episodes will be shorter andjam packed. Because Cobra Kai is
it's really well done, you'regonna like it. Well, also,

it's a different era. Now, if you go back to the
Karate Kid, there's no cellphones. There's no internet.
There's not Cobra Kai, I guesshas to have cell phones and
internet its present day. Right.

Here's your touch on some good points we'll be
talking about Yeah. Well,

that's one of the things I would ask filmmakers
when we were at the festival isI would ask them I would say I
noticed that the movies inpresent day yet you don't have
any cell phones. And they wouldmake these decisions. They were
intentional to remove cell phoneto remove internet from a movie
even though it's present daybecause it changes the dynamic.
Oh yeah. You know, you can hopon your phone, dial 911

(02:21:57):
Whatever. Well, that changeseverything.

So I will say this I will give you since I
have seen Cobra Kai season one,season two, and I enjoyed it so
much is what led me to want tocreate this podcast so I can't
wait to revisit it and havenotes and we'll be ready to
roll. But I will tell you this.
Johnny Lorenz is a little bit ofa Billy Madison type. If you
remember Billy Madison, when hegoes back to school, he's still

(02:22:21):
stuck in a different era. Yeah.
Johnny Lawrence is a little bitof that. He's still stuck in the
80s. And he'll see that and thenyou get to know a side that
Johnny you'd never got to see inthe movie. That'd be nice. And
then it's cut with where Danielsin life. You know what, they've
done some good things and I'mexcited to explore it together.

I'm excited to explore Cobra Kai as well. And I
thank you for inviting me onthis journey with you.

My pleasure. All right, we'll see you next time.
Thanks for listening. Bye.
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