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July 3, 2025 49 mins

Navigating difficult conversations at home, work, or in our polarized world can feel overwhelming—but what if building conflict resilience is the key to deeper connection and transformative growth? In this eye-opening episode, hosts Emma Waddington and Chris McCurry dive into the science and art of facing conflict head-on with nationally recognized conflict resolution expert Bob Bordone and behavioral neurologist Dr. Joel Salinas, co-authors of the groundbreaking book Conflict Resilience.

Discover why avoiding conflict (or rushing to “resolve” it) can actually harm relationships, communities, and even your own wellbeing. Our guests reveal how embracing discomfort, developing emotional awareness, and unlearning reactive patterns empowers us to connect authentically—even across divides that seem unbridgeable. You’ll learn about the brain’s “five Fs” in conflict, practical skills for sitting with tension, and why naming your emotions is the first step toward breakthrough.

Whether you’re a parent, partner, leader, or simply tired of the stress that comes with disagreement, this episode is packed with actionable insights and inspiring stories that will help you struggle well—and come out stronger. Tune in and discover the dirty little secret to lifelong connection: real resilience in the heat of conflict.

Topics Discussed in this Episode:

  • Building conflict resilience skills
  • The neuroscience behind conflict avoidance
  • Emotional literacy in difficult conversations
  • Psychological safety in diverse teams
  • Strategies for managing polarized relationships

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