Secret #60: There is No Normal with Dr. Steven C. Hayes [REPLAY]

In this thought-provoking conversation, Dr. Steven C. Hayes challenges the idea that mental health care should follow rigid, one-size-fits-all models. He explores why our obsession with efficiency, like the standard “8 session” treatment plan, can miss the mark and even harm those it is meant to help. Instead, Steven invites us to sit with uncertainty, discomfort, and even panic, recognizing that true healing is rarely linear.

If you have ever felt like therapy or support systems were trying to “fix” you rather than understand you, this episode will resonate deeply. Dr. Hayes’  insights remind us that progress takes time, flexibility, and the courage to question the systems we have built.

Topics Discussed in this Episode:

• Why one-size-fits-all therapy models fail clients
• The hidden flaws of the “8 session” treatment plan
• How the obsession with efficiency harms mental health care
• The importance of sitting with uncertainty in therapy
• Shifting from “fixing” clients to truly understanding them

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