Secret #68: Secrets of Rest with Alex Soojung-Kim Pang

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Rest is not the opposite of work. It is the partner that makes great work possible. In this conversation, best-selling author and strategist Alex Soojung-Kim Pang shows how rest is a learnable skill that powers focus, creativity, and longevity. We dig into deliberate rest, the default mode network, and why short micro breaks can boost productivity. You will hear practical rhythms for your day—90 to 120 minutes of deep work followed by low-intensity recovery like walking or gardening—plus how absorbing hobbies, device boundaries, and shared team norms protect you from burnout. We also explore the social side of rest, building a sense of mattering and community so you can sustain excellence in a world engineered for distraction. 

Highlights:
• Rest as an active skill that partners with work
• The 90–120 minute deep-work rhythm and low-intensity recovery
• Walking, gardening, and “default mode” insight during breaks
• Hobbies, mastery, and community as buffers against burnout
• Simple tech boundaries and the “zombie apocalypse” notification test
• How to design environments and norms that support focus and rest
• Sustainable excellence: doing great work for decades, not months

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