July 14, 2025 โข 51 mins
What happens when you have all the external markers of success but feel profoundly unhappy? Heather Stewart faced this reality as a senior director of finance with the degree, the job, and the lifestyle that society deemed successfulโyet something was missing. In a courageous act of self-reclamation, she quit her corporate position, ended her marriage, sold her house, and embarked on a three-month journey to India that would forever alter her perspective on life.
Her time in India revealed a stark contrast between Western materialism and community-centered values, leading to a profound realization: "I am a complete person." This awareness freed her from the constant seeking that characterizes much of modern existence. Upon returning to Canada, Heather transformed her career path, opening a yoga studio and becoming a massage therapist to help others reconnect with their physical wellness after experiencing the cerebral nature of corporate life.
The universe wasn't finished with Heather's transformation, however. A stroke in 2021 became what she calls "the gift of a three-day silent retreat" in the ER, forcing her to confront a powerful truthโwhile she was moving in the right direction, she was "playing too small." This health crisis birthed her Thriving Life Method, a holistic approach that harmonizes physical, emotional, spiritual, occupational, and financial wellbeing.
Throughout our conversation, Heather challenges popular notions about manifestation, emphasizing that visualization alone isn't enoughโwe must take ownership and action. "If you want to decide that you need a different life," she explains, "I had to stand up for myself, use my voice, and make something different happen." This perspective offers a refreshing alternative to passive manifestation practices that often leave people frustrated when results don't materialize.
Whether you're feeling stuck in a career that no longer serves you, struggling to process emotions authentically, or seeking to create meaningful change in your life, Heather's journey demonstrates the transformative power of taking ownership. By reclaiming responsibility for our choices and circumstances, we unlock our capacity to manifest the reality we truly desire.
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NatNatBe (00:00):
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(00:21):
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Let's get into this.
Oh, and please remember to bekind to yourself.
Welcome to the Lift One Selfpodcast.
I'm your host, nat Nat, andtoday we are with Heather
(00:42):
Stewart, and I think we're goingto get into a juicy, delicious
conversation, because before westarted recording, we were
talking about blame andaccountability and how a lot of
people like to talk aboutmanifesting their reality.
Yet the biggest part is takingaccountability for your actions
and not blaming the externalworld.
(01:02):
So before we dive in, heather,would you be so gracious to
introduce yourself to myself andthe listeners and let us know a
little bit about yourself?
Heather Stewart (01:13):
Sure Myself to myself.
I would love that.
And yes, so my name is Heatherand I call myself a real life
coach and a transformationfacilitator.
And the transformationfacilitator came when I went to
Sarasota last year and I had asession with a channel this
(01:36):
gentleman I love who channelsthe collective and I asked them
what I was good at and they saidthat my first.
They told me they was really,really good at what I did and I
said, well, you tell me what itis.
So my one of my superpowers ishelping people to transform and
(01:59):
I think part of that is thetransformation of myself.
So I did the things we weresupposed to do.
We were just talking.
I went to Ottawa U, I got thedegree, I became a CPA, I was a
senior director of finance, Iwas working in corporate life, I
had the external trappings thatpeople would say were
(02:21):
successful, and I was unhappyand I quit my job.
I mean, people thought it waslike an instantaneous thing.
It took me a little bit ofdeciding what to do, but I quit
my job and I got divorced and Isold my house.
I lived in Mississauga and, um,I said it's done, this is the
(02:45):
wrong thing, it's done and Itransformed myself and I
actually went away to India forthree months and when I came
back, yeah, I had startedteaching yoga, opened my own
yoga studio because I felt likethere was like there was a lot
of cerebral, there's a lot ofbrain thinking when you're in a
(03:08):
corporate world, but your bodyis suffering and I felt like the
body really needed to have someattention.
I went back to school for twoyears.
I became a massage therapistand teaching yoga.
I'm a personal trainer.
I'm helping people with theirphysical wellness.
I'm like, yeah, this is amazing.
People knew what my previousjob was, so I would have all
(03:28):
these health and wellness peoplesaying, heather, I got a letter
from the government.
I'm so scared.
I'm like, well, let's open itand see what's inside.
So so I started businesscoaching for health and wellness
because they were so sweet andthey were trying to help people
and they were struggling.
I said, okay, now I've got itbecause I'm helping people with
(03:48):
business.
I got that skill.
I'm helping people with theirphysical wellness, yeah.
And then the universe kicked mein the butt as hard as it could
without permanent damage and Ihad a stroke in 2021.
And it's COVID.
Nobody could come and visit me.
I was in the ER for three daysbecause there was no beds in the
(04:09):
hospital and I couldn't seeproperly, so I couldn't do the
thing that people do I probablywould have done myself go to the
phone and start scrolling todistract yourself.
I just had to lay there.
I tell people I had the gift ofa three-day silent retreat and
it was Halloween weekend, so theER was a fascinating place to
(04:31):
be an observer.
And I just at one point said,okay, the doctors say I've had a
stroke, they're probably prettyright.
Okay, I'll trust them and I'lllet them do their job and take
care of me and stop arguing withthem that it's impossible,
because you know how healthy Iam.
And and I said, okay, why am Ihere?
(04:52):
So I started paying attentionand what I realized was I was
doing the.
I was going in the rightdirection, but I was playing too
small.
So while I was there, in theright direction, but I was
playing too small.
So while I was there, dropped inmy program which I called the
Thriving Life Method, and it'slike helping people.
(05:13):
Harmonize Balance is not theword I use.
I use harmonize on purpose.
Yes, I was working on theirphysical health and, yes, their
businesses.
But we needed to talk abouttheir emotional health and the
community around them and theiroccupation and their financial
health and their spiritualhealth.
I said, okay, all the thingsgot it.
(05:35):
And while I was there, it wasalso my podcast was born that
day, those three days, and it'scalled Back to Me trying to help
people understand that thecurrent belief that it's better
to be a martyr and sacrificeyourself than to take care of
(05:55):
yourself so that you can takecare of other people, and ways
to do it.
And yeah, I always havefascinating conversations with
people.
On my podcast, I talked to asexual fantasy expert once.
So cool, such a coolconversation.
Anyway, so that's what I do.
I help people transform, I helppeople fit.
(06:16):
I call, I use real life coachon purpose, because whatever
solutions we explore together tohelp people, I want it to fit
their real life as it is now,because you don't need more
overwhelm, you don't need moredisruption.
People are trying to find a wayto come back to themselves,
(06:37):
even if they don't call it that,and I want to help them do that
in an easy way.
It doesn't have to be hard,right.
NatNatBe (06:46):
Yeah, we have a lot of similarities in our journey, so
I'm looking forward to thedialogue that we're going to get
into.
Yeah, before that, will youjoin me in a mindful moment, of
course, so we can calm ourselvesand open ourselves even better?
Mm-hmm, so we can groundourselves and open ourselves
even better.
For the listeners, as youalways hear, safety first.
(07:07):
If you are driving or need yourvisual, please do not close
your eyes.
Yet all the other promptsyou're able to do with whatever
you're doing.
So, heather, I'll ask you toget comfortable in your seating
and, if it's safe to do so,you're going to gently close
(07:28):
your eyes and you're going tobegin breathing in and out
through your nose, and you'renot going to try and control
your breath, you're just goingto be aware of its rhythm,
allowing it to guide you intoyour body.
There may be some sensations orfeelings coming up, and that's
okay.
You're safe to feel.
You're safe to let go,surrender the need to control,
(07:54):
release the need to resist andjust be, be with your breath,
drop deeper into your body.
Be with your breath, dropdeeper into your body.
Now there may be some thoughtsor to-do lists that have popped
up in the mind, and that's okay.
Gently bring your awarenessback to your breath, creating
(08:24):
space between the awareness andthe thoughts and dropping even
deeper into the body, givingyourself permission to just be
Again.
More thoughts may have poppedup.
Gently bring your awarenessback to your breath, back to
(08:52):
your breath, beginning again,creating even more space between
the awareness and the thoughts,just surrendering into the body
, just being.
You may notice the rhythm ofyour breath has changed.
You may notice or observe somedifferent sensations or feelings
(09:14):
in the body and just stay withthat breath.
Now, at your own time and atyour own pace.
You're going to gently openyour eyes while staying with
your breath.
How's your heart doing?
Heather Stewart (09:32):
Fabulous, how's your heart doing.
NatNatBe (09:34):
It's curious, there's been a lot in the past five
months.
Yesterday I went to a spacalled Coena, which is and cold,
so really getting you in thebody, and there was a lot of
insight in things that came upthat allowed me to go further
(09:56):
deeper into myself and see itwith clarity and feel those
emotions and have betterunderstanding of my behavior and
the feelings and sensations.
So thank you for the question.
Tell me about India.
What had you go to India?
Because that's not somethinganybody just jumps on and goes.
Heather Stewart (10:19):
Right.
So it was interesting when Iwas still in corporate, you know
, always looking for ways torelieve stress and I had taken a
meditation class with agentleman and he had studied he
had a degree in like a major inHinduism and a minor in
(10:41):
Christianity, like he had goneto school for this, and so I
would have taken thesemeditation classes and I'm like,
okay, that's pretty good.
I was inconsistent at the time.
And then a VP in my that Italked to a lot in in the staff
room, a friend of mine.
He had started practicingAshtanga yoga and he said, oh,
(11:03):
you know what?
Would you like a free pass forthe studio I go to?
I was like, yeah, sure, I hearthat's good for stress.
So I started or I'm a, I'mrecovering overachiever I
started going to yoga five daysa week because I was going to be
the best damn yogi ever and Iwas gonna be the stress-free
(11:23):
superwoman and don't ever dothat to yourself Like don't put
those things on yourself, thatyou have to be something.
But I was doing that and I wentfor the stress, thinking, you
know, this is going to help mewith my stress.
And when I had my own yogastudio I used to joke that
(11:45):
people would come for the yogabut and not realize that they
were actually getting not theyoga but but way more
dimensionally expanded thingshappening.
So I was doing all of this yogaand when I learned something
and I get lit up by it, really,I was just born to teach people.
I want to teach people.
(12:06):
So I started searching aroundfor a yoga teacher training.
So I started taking a yogateacher training on the weekends
between my corporate job and itwas amazing.
I loved it.
It was taking me further andfurther down a path to what I
was supposed to be doing.
I didn't know it at the time andI was working on this big
(12:30):
project at work that wasamalgamating some divisions and
I knew that when the project wasfinished that the next step was
going to be to step in to bethe controller of the division.
And I was talking to acolleague and I said you know, I
don't want another promotion.
(12:51):
And my now ex-husband, ofcourse he wanted to be a VP by
35.
And I said it to him as well.
I was like what do you mean?
You don't want anotherpromotion.
It just didn't compute for him.
And I was like, look, yeah, youget recognition, you get all of
this stuff.
(13:11):
You get tighter handcuffs onyour wrists, the golden
handcuffs, but the price of thatis my life and my time and my
energy, and it's not worth it.
So I place a value on my health, my wellness, my time, the
(13:33):
things I want to do in life, andit doesn't even have to be
curing cancer.
What if I just want to sit bythe ocean for half an hour?
You, it's like that is valuableto me, more valuable than 12
hours at a desk.
So there was a person in my yogateacher training class who had
been to India.
So I was like deep intofiguring out meditation and yoga
(13:58):
and I was all ash tag at thetime.
I've expanded my horizons sincethen.
I'm still teaching 20 yearslater and now I'm a mashup of
everything I've ever learned.
So people say, what kind ofstyle of yoga do you teach?
Heather style.
And I knew this person had beento India.
So I said, can we go for coffeeand can you tell me about India
(14:20):
?
Because I was curious and I hadkind of felt like I was my felt
kind of called to go.
I was like I feel like I'mgonna go to India, I feel like
I'm gonna quit my job and go toIndia.
And we went for coffee and hebrought a photo album with him
do you remember those?
yeah, I still have them, yeah,and he showed me the pictures
and he's telling me about it.
(14:41):
And I told him what my plan was.
I said, oh, oh, yeah, so I'mquitting my job and I'm my my
house is, I was getting divorced, my house is on the market and
I'm selling my house and I'm I'mjust going to go take off for a
little while to India.
So I wanted to know what toexpect and he's like, really, he
(15:01):
said you know, I'm taking aleave of absence from my job and
I'm going back.
And it was like we were goingat the same time.
So we went together and it wasjust like I felt like it was, um
, I had been to some like I'vebeen to Peru and I've been to
the European countries, but I'dnever been anywhere that was so
(15:25):
intense and so intense but soopen.
I mean, it's hard to, unlessyou've been there, it's hard to
describe the energy of the placeLike the contrast is so stark
and at one point I'm sitting onthe train.
I'd only been there a few days.
It took me a couple of weeks toreally let my energy settle
(15:48):
because it was so confronting.
In some ways.
I'm sitting on the train andthere's a man wearing a
three-piece suit.
There's a Nokia I can see itvery clearly, a Nokia.
Behind him he's on his cellphone and next to him on the
ground is a man with no legsbanging.
And I'm like what?
Like?
It was like my brain cells fuse, it was like third world and
(16:10):
first world living in the samecontainer and it was really hard
to for my you know,middle-class Canadian brain to
process it and the more time Ispent there, the more time I was
like these people are, have awhole different view of the
(16:33):
world, like an entirelydifferent view, and not to
glamorize it or anything,because it is hard there, people
sleeping on the streets and youknow the caste system, but
they're what they value is verydifferent.
I mean, I was sitting in afamily, we were staying with the
family and we were sittingaround the stove it was diwali,
(16:58):
so it was like november-ishsitting around the stove and
they had killed a goat for us,because we're guests and I can't
identify any of the parts ofthe goat in the stew, but it's
all good.
And they were asking usquestions and we're like, no, we
don't have jobs, we don't havekids, we don't have a spouse,
and they felt so bad for us andI'm thinking my coat is worth
(17:24):
more than this house and you,wow.
Totally different perspective,right, and they value community
so much and I was sick at thetime and I didn't know this at
first.
Every time I left the the houseto go, the washroom was in a
room out in a building out back.
(17:45):
The ladies would follow me andand sit at a distance because
they were.
They wanted to make sure that Iwas okay.
So they're all about caring foreach other.
Um, although there's that cast,it's like, I guess, in your cast
system, but it was just such adifferent place to explore.
I stayed for three months and Iwould have stayed longer, but I
(18:08):
promised my grandmother I wouldcome back for Christmas.
You can't go against, grant,sorry.
NatNatBe (18:17):
What did you learn about yourself while you were
there for three months?
Heather Stewart (18:22):
Oh, that's a good question.
I learned to.
It's interesting when you havethat space to think right and
that alone time.
So I learned that I was acomplete person.
(18:44):
You know, I always felt likesomething was missing.
Like you know, you're alwayssearching, searching.
This is something I was havinga conversation with just last
night.
Humans are searching, searching,searching for something, and I
made a comment that what if weknow, if we found it?
(19:04):
Because we don't know whatwe're looking for Exactly, we
don't stop the search.
So I can remember I was inManali.
Was I in Manali at the time andI stepped off this curb and I
just realized how comfortableand at ease I was.
And I just realized howcomfortable and at ease I was.
(19:26):
I'm like, wow, I'm just like.
I just felt like I am a solid,full, developed, amazing person,
human being, soul of expression, and I don't need to be doing
anything right now except justwalking down the street.
You know, just walking down thestreet, you know, and that frees
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so much of that angst and thatenergy of these, the shooting,
the supposed to's, the, thetrappings that we put on
ourselves, and I mean it comesand goes, because we still, when
I came back to Canada.
It was actually a bit disruptive.
I was like, oh whoa, it's sobright, everything is so shiny,
it's so strange to go to thegrocery store and feel
(20:15):
traumatized by our grocery store.
So it comes like you integrateyourself where you are, but you
still hold that memory and youtap into that at those times
when you're thinking I feelsmall, I feel inadequate, I feel
undeserving, I feel unvaluedand it's like, well, no, you
(20:41):
have everything you need.
It's that internal view that weoften don't like when we did
our mindfulness.
So I've now been meditating forover 20 years and it's I love
that like check in with yourselfand the more you do it, the
more you get to know yourselfand you can recognize oh,
there's that strong person thereis that I don't need that
(21:03):
person outside of me to givethat to me because I'm already
here.
NatNatBe (21:10):
So, in hearing this, if you could give your younger
self permission to do one thing,what would it be?
Heather Stewart (21:20):
Stop being afraid to speak.
Stop being afraid to speak.
So, for I was very shy as a,even into university in my
twenties, somewhere in my around27, 27, by the way, is a huge
age of shifting right.
27 was when I left my firstpartner, who was a narcissist,
(21:50):
and I still have the fridgemagnet that says I am no longer
afraid when that was when I hadto find my voice and my
self-value to say this is notthe right place for me and I
need to do this for me becauseno one else is going to do it
for me.
And, um, this goes back to thatownership thing.
(22:11):
I had to step up for myself andpart of that was finding my
voice to say no and to speak,and I still I mean even now.
so I do, I read Akashic recordsfor myself and others and every
now and then, when I'm talkingto the record keepers, they're
reminding me yeah, you need totalk more, heather.
I'm like, okay, I'm on it,understood.
NatNatBe (22:36):
So, going on that, what is one fear you were afraid
other people would see.
Yet now you've owned it and youown fully.
Heather Stewart (22:49):
And it's so interesting because I was doing
a little exercise this morning.
Even when you overcome a fear,the seeds are still there.
They're just not growinganymore, right?
So I have always had a fearthat people would realize that I
(23:11):
didn't know the answers,because I'm the oldest of four
children.
I't know, and that's achallenge.
(23:32):
I mean, some people see it aslike sometimes it comes out as a
control freak needing tocontrol a situation, but it
doesn't always come out that way.
Sometimes it comes out as Iwon't do something if I don't
know what's gonna happen.
And I can see it in myself and,um, I, luckily I can see it in
(23:53):
myself and I will do a breathpractice, because you need to
release that thing that'sstarting to try and drill its
way into you and go and do itanyway yeah, yeah.
NatNatBe (24:06):
So going back, you said the akasha records.
Some of the listeners might belike what we should talk about.
What the heck is that?
I know what it is, yet couldyou let the listeners know what
that is?
Heather Stewart (24:19):
yeah, the akashic records, oh my gosh
they're.
I didn't know what they were afew years ago and when I found
out about them I just went fulllike I do go full head on into
it.
And it is so.
If we understand that we areall energy and we are all, we
were all connected at some point.
Right, it's like the energy wascontained and then the energy
(24:41):
went out and we are all, arepart of that energy.
So in our 3d density this ishow I like to think of it in our
3d density, this body can'tpossibly contain all that is me.
This is just an expression thatI've put into me right now and
in the energetic realms is therest of me and everything that
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ever was, ever could be, everwill be.
All possibilities, everythingeverywhere, all at once.
So, even though I'm heretalking to you, there's a
version of me who's packing forI'm leaving for Portugal today,
packing for Portugal.
You know there's all of theseversions and they're all in the
energy because it doesn'tcoalesce into form until you
(25:25):
make a decision that coalescesinto form and there's energetic
beings who are in charge of my.
I'd like to imagine it as alibrary, because it helps me
frame it for myself.
So there's a library of heatherand then there's dudes.
My dudes are hanging out at thedoor and they're my record
(25:46):
keepers and when I drop into theright space and open my records
, I can ask them questions.
And the interesting thing aboutthe record keepers because some
people see it as kind of like,um, psychics it's not really
psychics, because psychics Idon't know what energy stream
(26:06):
they're tapping into.
They're kind of tapping intotimelines.
This is just me and they won'tanswer me.
If they, if it's, they don'tthink it's going to be helpful.
I'll ask them something andthey're like they'll just say
straight up yeah, you don't needto know that.
And sometimes they talk likeyoda for me.
So everybody's record keepers,because I'll read for other
(26:28):
people as well.
Um, you get permission to openother people's records and their
record keepers will answerquestions for you.
Everybody's record keepers havea slightly different energy.
Mine are a bunch of comediansand they sound like yoda
sometimes.
Sometimes they sound like DrSeuss and sometimes they'll give
you the answer in a way thatyou don't understand until later
(26:49):
.
But, um, interesting, talkingto them and asking them
questions that are on my mindhelps me feel like, helps me
drop into that trust place thatit might feel like something's
not going right right now, butreally it's.
(27:12):
It's all good, like anytime.
Something happens now and Istart to feel that stress, I'm
oh yeah, this is actuallyhappening for a reason.
This is supposed to happen.
So just ride it out Right.
Recognize that I'm going tohave emotions, but don't let
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them stay too long.
Let them keep going.
NatNatBe (27:40):
Speaking about emotions you had mentioned, you
know that that is one of thethings that is required in
healing and and you know reallife, where a lot of people are
cerebral, and it's the samepractice that I educate people a
lot of people think theirfeelings they don't actually
feel.
Their feelings and emotionsaren't to be analyzed when
(28:03):
you're feeling them.
They're only supposed to befelt and processed so that the
information can come up.
But if you're analyzing, you'resuppressing and bypassing some
of that embodiment that's needed.
What does that process looklike for you?
Heather Stewart (28:18):
It can depend on what's happening.
So, and it's true, I mean, ifyou think about like an emotion
is um cause, your body isintelligent.
That's how it's going to speakto you, right, if it?
If it thinks something isdangerous for you, it's going to
(28:40):
give you fear.
Dangerous for you, it's goingto give you fear.
And if it thinks something was,you know, undesirable, sad,
like all these emotions thatcome and I sometimes joke with
people, it's like we don't livein Pleasantville, you know.
(29:02):
So don't tell people not just toget over it and cheer up,
because if we don't process itespecially as a yoga teacher,
you know people tuck it away intheir bodies and when they start
doing yoga, sometimes it comesout at the time.
They don't want it.
So for me, I usually have likeI've met.
What I do now I didn't used todo it.
This is what I found to be themost effective is, first, you
(29:25):
have to realize that you'rehaving one right, you're having
something and not push it away,depending on what it is.
And if there's people in theroom, I might tell them just so
they don't, so they don't getany.
You know, they don't get intothe range of what's going to
(29:47):
come out, you know, stay out ofthe line of fire.
And I actually will kind of talkto it, because it's kind of
like a meditation practice, likeoh, hi there, what's going on?
Like where did you come from?
Why are you here?
What have you got to tell me?
And it's interesting because Istarted, I noticed, specifically
(30:09):
yesterday.
I was like anxiety, what areyou doing here?
I haven't seen you in years andit's a physical feeling that I
have, which is why I recognizeit, and I really have not seen
it for years.
I'm like what are you doing here?
And that's what I was talkingabout earlier.
I'm going to Portugal today.
I have never been, and I'mgoing alone and I've rented a
(30:31):
car and my body is going, butyou don't know what's going to
happen, even though I'm likeit's going to be fine, I'll be
fine, everything's fine.
No, what if something happens?
You know I can hear like my, mygrandmother, is what if
something happens?
Well, well, it'll be fine.
(30:52):
You know, it's like I'm, I feellike I'm without a safety net
for quite a while and I had topause and go hello.
What are you doing here?
And do some breath work andespecially diaphragmatic, like
(31:14):
letting all of that stuff movethrough, don't let it grab a
hold, don't let it pull you intoit.
So really taking some time totalk to yourself about why it's
there so valuable.
NatNatBe (31:29):
Yeah, I think there's also because people don't know
how to validate themselves, theydon't know how to witness.
So of course we're going toshut down and push it away
because it's overwhelming, it'suncomfortable and we've been
taught a lot of us that whateverwe're feeling isn't the feeling
(31:50):
to be feeling right now.
It should be somethingdifferent than that.
So, to allow these authenticemotions to come up and
recognize, sometimes you knowit's unknown territory because
you're allowing an emotion thatyou haven't ever felt.
Unknown territory becauseyou're allowing an emotion that
you haven't ever felt.
Yet you are recognizing toothat certain body sensations
lets me know oh, here you arevisiting again.
(32:10):
I thought I got rid of you, yetthere's no such thing.
It's always when they comeknock at the door.
Are you gonna let me in or areyou gonna slam the door and
freak out and be and it's likeno, if you can allow it in and
be in the space and recognize,you can be in the space, but
you're not taking over to hijackmy behavior yeah, we're taught
(32:31):
to drive the bus exactly, yetyou can be in the space of
acknowledging it and we haven'treally been given that space of
validation well, even like ifyou have started observing
people with that thought in mind, of it's almost like they want
us to be homogeneously happy,which is why I use Pleasantville
.
Heather Stewart (32:51):
You know, little kids are upset.
Don't cry.
Big boys don't cry.
I'm like, yeah, they do.
Like, let them cry.
Oh my God, if they stuff itdown, what's going to happen to
them later?
Or, you know, little girlsdon't scream.
Yeah, they do.
And if they don't, they'llbecome I don't know who knows,
they'll become muted actress.
(33:12):
Yeah, they'll become theactress who's known for
screaming, and it's just all ofthese things if we don't allow
them.
And I, I had a client once whohad a head injury and it was so
fascinating to talk to herbecause her brain started
working differently.
I could talk to her and shetalked about how one day she was
(33:33):
angry and her fist was comingand she was looking like the
anger was in her fist and shewas looking at it.
It's like who is this?
And I'm like you can have anger.
It's like who is this and I'mlike you can have anger, but
don't be angry.
Like your body was telling youthat you had anger, but you
didn't have to become thisembodiment of anger and it was
(33:53):
just so fascinating the way herbrain worked and we have the
ability to do that.
So anxiety came to visit me andI let them in and I had a
conversation with them.
I gave them a coffee, but Iasked them to leave.
We had a conversation likethank you for your concern, I'm
going anyway.
NatNatBe (34:15):
Yeah.
So a question If your paincould speak, what would it say
to you today?
Heather Stewart (34:22):
Pain, pain.
It doesn't use clean language,that's fine, okay, listen, bitch
, get up off your ass and justget moving and how have you had?
NatNatBe (34:42):
were you always with a good relationship with pain?
Heather Stewart (34:47):
hmm, I don't know the answer to that.
I don't it.
It's funny because I don't.
When I think of pain in twodifferent ways, I think of, like
physical pain.
Physical pain and I are on a.
(35:07):
I'm going to be 60 in a coupleof years and I don't think
people need to have pain as theyget old.
But just the way my body'sbuilt, some things have started
talking to me.
I'm like, hey, how's it going?
And I think emotional pain isthe think that we hide.
(35:33):
Emotional pain, and myemotional pain is saying stop
hiding, stop hiding the thingsthat you don't want people to
know about you and putting thoseyou know, that happiness face
on, though most of the time I amhappy, but deep down in
(35:58):
everyone there's some somethingthat they don't want people to
know about them because of fear,like fear of being kicked off
the island, fear of judgment,fear of then people will have a
different idea of who I am.
Instead of, what usuallyhappens is people say oh, thank
(36:18):
goodness, I'm not the only oneright exactly, exactly.
NatNatBe (36:25):
It's what it is to be human and have a nervous system
and, rather than chastise it,you know, befriend it and ask
what are you trying to protectme from that?
You think that I don't have thecapacity to feel and experience
, so in that, why it's?
Heather Stewart (36:40):
so funny right.
Yeah, why it's so funny.
NatNatBe (36:43):
Yeah, and it's just being able to look at it in a
reverse way, rather than gettingrid of something or becoming
something else.
It's about integration, and theintegration requires you to
feel.
Yet we're taught in society notto feel pain, not to feel
emotions, and just keep pushingthrough, you know, cerebrally,
academically, and just go.
Heather Stewart (37:06):
We glorify the logic brain so much.
I mean, I've been doing a lotof reading.
It's like that logical, it's amath.
It's not men versus women, it'sa masculine energy, where the
feminine energy is the feelingenergy and has been discounted
for so long as inappropriate wedon't like, imagine if you're in
(37:30):
the workplace and having atemper tantrum.
imagine if, as an accountantactually I did cry sometimes
when I was an accountant but Iwould go hide in the bathroom.
Yeah, of course you can't.
You can't cry, you're at work.
No, crying at work.
NatNatBe (37:44):
Not at all.
Not at all.
You will be weaponized andvilified Like no.
Weaponized and vilified Like no.
It's so unsafe, no, yeah.
So what is one BS?
And when I say BS, I meanbelief systems that you once
believed, that you were able torelease because you recognize it
no longer serves you.
Heather Stewart (38:07):
So, because I spent 12 years with a narcissist
, I had a belief for a long timethat my value was only tied to
that person, that I was notsmart, that I was not attractive
(38:39):
, that nobody else would want melike and and I mean it's
insidious and it would, and itand I started with that person
at a time when I was still inyou know, I was still a teenager
.
So you're in your developmentalphases where you're so worried,
like teenagers they're tryingto figure out who they are, and
when you come through that,believing those things about
yourself, that takes some timeto untangle those things right.
(39:01):
It takes some time to recognizethat it's a small T.
Truth is what I call it.
Yeah, you might've believed itis true, but there's too much
evidence to the contrary, whichis the logical side of it.
But for me, I had to start withthe logic to move into the
feeling and the allowing of itto be true, because I didn't
(39:23):
know how else to get out of it.
You know.
NatNatBe (39:27):
Thank you for that vulnerability and that
transparency.
Thank you for thatvulnerability and that
transparency.
You know, speaking our ownstory, you have to.
You know well you don't have to.
Yet If you are really doing thework, you're going through
seeing yourself and what thatlook like with this awareness,
and sometimes our presentawareness wants to chastise the
(39:48):
past awareness because youshould have known better or you
should have been this, tochastise the past awareness
because you should have knownbetter, or you should have been
this, or, and it's like no, it'sreally seeing that
vulnerability of being able tointegrate it all and I don't
think like I think sometimesabout things that I thought when
I was younger or things I didwhen I was younger and you could
give yourself a hard time.
Heather Stewart (40:08):
But that's like giving yourself a hard time for
wearing your hair teased in the80s like it was.
You did what you could, but atthe time with what you knew and
I was.
It's funny, it's related toexercise but, um, I was doing
this class this this morning andhe said if you're not
(40:28):
challenging your stability, thenyou're not improving your
stability.
So we were.
I was doing balancing and it'sall about you know, if you are,
if you can like be in a placewhere you're a little bit
unsteady, then you, yoursteadiness just improves and
(40:49):
improves.
But you can't do that from theget-go.
You have to like learn your waythere.
You have to take step by step bystep.
So I look at myself now andsometimes I go, wow, if I knew
what I knew back then.
But I wouldn't be who I am nowif I didn't have to go through
all that bullshit that I wentthrough.
NatNatBe (41:07):
Yeah, it's really rewiring what learning looks
like.
It's not about getting the a'sand knowing it all.
Learning means you have no ideawhat you're doing and you're
figuring it out and it's reallyuncomfortable to learn like.
It's really um challenging tolearn like the, the grit that
goes in the mind, because themind wants to know it everything
(41:28):
, because perfection feels likesafety, perfection, and that's
been like that, like that wasthe thing that I, that's the
thing that I Mind wants to knowit everything.
Heather Stewart (41:31):
Because perfection feels like safety.
Perfection feels secure andthat's been my like.
That was the thing that I,that's the thing that I, when
it's going to show up, that'sthe thing that's going to show
up for me still is no, you'rethe A student.
You have to have all theanswers and get the A's and be
the best and don't make mistakes, because then people will know
you don't know everything.
NatNatBe (41:53):
Right.
Yeah, the most powerfulstrength you could have is like
acknowledging I don't know Rightand stand in that and feel all
the winds and the whistles andjust still stand firm.
You're safe to not know in aworld that wants all the answers
.
Heather Stewart (42:11):
Yeah, I started practicing the I don't know,
and I actually did itconsciously because I realized
and the person that I went toIndia with we're having our 20th
anniversary this summer, nice,but I because, because of who he
is, it was like he was sent tome.
Because of who he is, I startedpracticing with him.
(42:32):
I don't know and does he stilllike me?
Like like everything that I'velearned and done and challenged
over the past 20 years and weare, he is still 100 like he is,
he's like my teacher of how tobe okay, not like developing,
(42:56):
and it's just been amazing westarted off the conversation
talking about manifesting yourreality, right and how.
NatNatBe (43:05):
if people really understood the ownership of that
and they might be recognizingthe work that goes into that.
So can you elaborate a littlebit more on your perspective on
this and what some people mightbe missing in this work, right?
Heather Stewart (43:22):
So we can go from 3D to quantum with this.
So, if you think, I'm alwaysreminded of someone I knew who
had read the Secret and said I'mvisualizing my new home, I'm
manifesting, and nothing everhappened.
I said, well, it's not like youcan't do something.
(43:42):
You have to be a participant inthis.
So there has to be an actionand the action has to be taken
by you.
So if I want to decide that Ineed a different life, I could
have visualized all I want, thatI wanted a different life when
I was in corporate, but I had tostand up for myself, use my
(44:06):
voice and make somethingdifferent happen and trust that
the actions that I was takingwere going to help create the
world that I was envisioning.
Right, but then you can goquantum and say, because people
will say, you are the, basicallyyou are God, if you want to use
(44:28):
the G word, and you havecreated this entire thing to
have an experience of yourself.
And I have created NatNet and Ihave created podcasts and I've
created the whole thing andincluding the war, including the
famine, including, you know,terrorism, including crazy
(44:49):
politicians and the politicalsystem and I was having a
conversation last night.
On a 3D scale, we havedifficulty taking ownership for
our own lives.
As I'm thinking of someonewho's Pacific, who complains
constantly that this is notright and this is not right, and
(45:11):
this is not right and this isnot right, I'm like, well, then,
change it.
But she won't take ownershipfor her life.
So if it's hard to takeownership for your life, you
can't take ownership for thewhole universe.
It's like start small, startwith you and start with your
environment.
If you don't, if yourenvironment is uncomfortable,
(45:33):
you change it.
And don't complain about howsomeone is treating you because
you're giving them permission totreat you that way.
Don't complain.
We were complaining earlierabout the government.
Don't complain about thegovernment because we created
the government.
If you want it to change, youhave to do something, and people
will say say I'm too small andtoo alone.
And no, you are not small.
(45:56):
That's what we were talkingabout earlier.
You are a big, powerful beingand you are here for a purpose,
I believe, and not everybody'spurpose has to be curing cancer.
Some people's purposes aren't?
I talk about a beautiful gardenthat I walk by that woman.
I'm pretty sure her purpose inlife is to make that garden
(46:17):
gorgeous, because I stop infront of it every day,
especially now spring's here,and just look at the flowers and
it makes my heart so happy.
And if that's her purpose inlife, she's achieving it.
Right, it's just beautiful.
But people attach this need forit to be something huge and
(46:38):
significant.
And the word significant is soloaded because she's making a
significant difference in mylife, but it's not measurable in
a monetary scale, right?
So we don't say it'ssignificant.
So I think manifesting andownership is be okay.
(47:04):
That wherever you are now iswhere you decided to be.
Be okay that it may not bewhere you want to be, right, it
may be like holy shit, how did Iget here?
I don't like it.
That's what happened with mewhen I was an accountant.
How did I get here?
I don't like it.
(47:24):
So I decided to put on my like Isay my big girl pants and be
the boss, be the CEO of my life,be the boss of my life and say,
okay, I want somethingdifferent.
How am I going to do this?
And not everybody is going toquit their job and leave the
country, but even small changescan help you start to exercise,
(47:45):
flex that muscle of ownership,of responsibility, and once you
start to get stronger.
You make those bigger decisionsuntil you can actually look and
say, okay, this is my life,this is how I like it.
The city is okay, it's working.
(48:06):
Okay, the country?
Well, let's make some changesin the country.
The world, like.
My big, fat, hairy goal is to Ialways joke with my mom change
to save the world.
And I do it by tidal wave.
I put drips in the water andthey flow outwards and get
bigger and bigger and bigger.
Exactly Right.
NatNatBe (48:27):
Yeah.
So I know the listeners arelike, okay, where can I get a
hold of Heather and where can Ifind her.
So could you let the listenersknow where they can find you and
what you have to offer?
Heather Stewart (48:39):
Yes, so everything is.
It's easy to find because whowants to jump all over the
planet?
Heather Stewartcoach is whereall the alls are.
I have the podcast you canlisten to and actually, starting
in June, I'm going to be on theInspired Choices Network, so I
will be on 300 live TV stationsand 80 audio platforms.
(49:01):
Oh my God Talking big.
I really got to pull up to getup to that.
And I have a free membershiparea area which is off social
media and there's no toxicityallowed in that area.
It's a place where there's Ihave my free resources.
You know.
I have like some meditationsand I teach this yoga, tai chi
(49:25):
fusion class that I loveteaching and, um, there's a quiz
there.
There's like a roadmap for Iteach the thriving life method
and then I have like a diy spacegroup coaching, the like
one-on-one coaching, but it'sall housed because it's easier
to send people to heathershortcoach and instagram,
(49:47):
facebook, linkedin all the allswell, I want to thank you, for
it's already been almost an hourand it feels fast right.
NatNatBe (49:57):
Yeah, it was very opening and inviting
conversation and one thing youknow that stood out is I want to
thank you for the alchemy thatyou've done in your life, taking
those impurities, you know,really seeing where you were and
recognizing this isn't where Iwant to be Also going through
some health challenges andillnesses and still, you know,
(50:19):
pivoting and asking yourselfsome very profound questions.
So you've taken thoseimpurities and you've turned
them into gold, yet you didn'tkeep the gold for yourself.
You're sharing it with others.
So thank you you so much,heather, for all of the work
that you are doing in the lightyou're bringing into the world.
Thank you, thank you.
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(50:45):
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Welcome to the Lift One Selfpodcast.
I'm your host, nat Nat, andtoday we are with Heather
(00:42):
Stewart, and I think we're goingto get into a juicy, delicious
conversation, because before westarted recording, we were
talking about blame andaccountability and how a lot of
people like to talk aboutmanifesting their reality.
Yet the biggest part is takingaccountability for your actions
and not blaming the externalworld.
(01:02):
So before we dive in, heather,would you be so gracious to
introduce yourself to myself andthe listeners and let us know a
little bit about yourself?
Heather Stewart (01:13):
Sure Myself to myself.
I would love that.
And yes, so my name is Heatherand I call myself a real life
coach and a transformationfacilitator.
And the transformationfacilitator came when I went to
Sarasota last year and I had asession with a channel this
(01:36):
gentleman I love who channelsthe collective and I asked them
what I was good at and they saidthat my first.
They told me they was really,really good at what I did and I
said, well, you tell me what itis.
So my one of my superpowers ishelping people to transform and
(01:59):
I think part of that is thetransformation of myself.
So I did the things we weresupposed to do.
We were just talking.
I went to Ottawa U, I got thedegree, I became a CPA, I was a
senior director of finance, Iwas working in corporate life, I
had the external trappings thatpeople would say were
(02:21):
successful, and I was unhappyand I quit my job.
I mean, people thought it waslike an instantaneous thing.
It took me a little bit ofdeciding what to do, but I quit
my job and I got divorced and Isold my house.
I lived in Mississauga and, um,I said it's done, this is the
(02:45):
wrong thing, it's done and Itransformed myself and I
actually went away to India forthree months and when I came
back, yeah, I had startedteaching yoga, opened my own
yoga studio because I felt likethere was like there was a lot
of cerebral, there's a lot ofbrain thinking when you're in a
(03:08):
corporate world, but your bodyis suffering and I felt like the
body really needed to have someattention.
I went back to school for twoyears.
I became a massage therapistand teaching yoga.
I'm a personal trainer.
I'm helping people with theirphysical wellness.
I'm like, yeah, this is amazing.
People knew what my previousjob was, so I would have all
(03:28):
these health and wellness peoplesaying, heather, I got a letter
from the government.
I'm so scared.
I'm like, well, let's open itand see what's inside.
So so I started businesscoaching for health and wellness
because they were so sweet andthey were trying to help people
and they were struggling.
I said, okay, now I've got itbecause I'm helping people with
(03:48):
business.
I got that skill.
I'm helping people with theirphysical wellness, yeah.
And then the universe kicked mein the butt as hard as it could
without permanent damage and Ihad a stroke in 2021.
And it's COVID.
Nobody could come and visit me.
I was in the ER for three daysbecause there was no beds in the
(04:09):
hospital and I couldn't seeproperly, so I couldn't do the
thing that people do I probablywould have done myself go to the
phone and start scrolling todistract yourself.
I just had to lay there.
I tell people I had the gift ofa three-day silent retreat and
it was Halloween weekend, so theER was a fascinating place to
(04:31):
be an observer.
And I just at one point said,okay, the doctors say I've had a
stroke, they're probably prettyright.
Okay, I'll trust them and I'lllet them do their job and take
care of me and stop arguing withthem that it's impossible,
because you know how healthy Iam.
And and I said, okay, why am Ihere?
(04:52):
So I started paying attentionand what I realized was I was
doing the.
I was going in the rightdirection, but I was playing too
small.
So while I was there, in theright direction, but I was
playing too small.
So while I was there, dropped inmy program which I called the
Thriving Life Method, and it'slike helping people.
(05:13):
Harmonize Balance is not theword I use.
I use harmonize on purpose.
Yes, I was working on theirphysical health and, yes, their
businesses.
But we needed to talk abouttheir emotional health and the
community around them and theiroccupation and their financial
health and their spiritualhealth.
I said, okay, all the thingsgot it.
(05:35):
And while I was there, it wasalso my podcast was born that
day, those three days, and it'scalled Back to Me trying to help
people understand that thecurrent belief that it's better
to be a martyr and sacrificeyourself than to take care of
(05:55):
yourself so that you can takecare of other people, and ways
to do it.
And yeah, I always havefascinating conversations with
people.
On my podcast, I talked to asexual fantasy expert once.
So cool, such a coolconversation.
Anyway, so that's what I do.
I help people transform, I helppeople fit.
(06:16):
I call, I use real life coachon purpose, because whatever
solutions we explore together tohelp people, I want it to fit
their real life as it is now,because you don't need more
overwhelm, you don't need moredisruption.
People are trying to find a wayto come back to themselves,
(06:37):
even if they don't call it that,and I want to help them do that
in an easy way.
It doesn't have to be hard,right.
NatNatBe (06:46):
Yeah, we have a lot of similarities in our journey, so
I'm looking forward to thedialogue that we're going to get
into.
Yeah, before that, will youjoin me in a mindful moment, of
course, so we can calm ourselvesand open ourselves even better?
Mm-hmm, so we can groundourselves and open ourselves
even better.
For the listeners, as youalways hear, safety first.
(07:07):
If you are driving or need yourvisual, please do not close
your eyes.
Yet all the other promptsyou're able to do with whatever
you're doing.
So, heather, I'll ask you toget comfortable in your seating
and, if it's safe to do so,you're going to gently close
(07:28):
your eyes and you're going tobegin breathing in and out
through your nose, and you'renot going to try and control
your breath, you're just goingto be aware of its rhythm,
allowing it to guide you intoyour body.
There may be some sensations orfeelings coming up, and that's
okay.
You're safe to feel.
You're safe to let go,surrender the need to control,
(07:54):
release the need to resist andjust be, be with your breath,
drop deeper into your body.
Be with your breath, dropdeeper into your body.
Now there may be some thoughtsor to-do lists that have popped
up in the mind, and that's okay.
Gently bring your awarenessback to your breath, creating
(08:24):
space between the awareness andthe thoughts and dropping even
deeper into the body, givingyourself permission to just be
Again.
More thoughts may have poppedup.
Gently bring your awarenessback to your breath, back to
(08:52):
your breath, beginning again,creating even more space between
the awareness and the thoughts,just surrendering into the body
, just being.
You may notice the rhythm ofyour breath has changed.
You may notice or observe somedifferent sensations or feelings
(09:14):
in the body and just stay withthat breath.
Now, at your own time and atyour own pace.
You're going to gently openyour eyes while staying with
your breath.
How's your heart doing?
Heather Stewart (09:32):
Fabulous, how's your heart doing.
NatNatBe (09:34):
It's curious, there's been a lot in the past five
months.
Yesterday I went to a spacalled Coena, which is and cold,
so really getting you in thebody, and there was a lot of
insight in things that came upthat allowed me to go further
(09:56):
deeper into myself and see itwith clarity and feel those
emotions and have betterunderstanding of my behavior and
the feelings and sensations.
So thank you for the question.
Tell me about India.
What had you go to India?
Because that's not somethinganybody just jumps on and goes.
Heather Stewart (10:19):
Right.
So it was interesting when Iwas still in corporate, you know
, always looking for ways torelieve stress and I had taken a
meditation class with agentleman and he had studied he
had a degree in like a major inHinduism and a minor in
(10:41):
Christianity, like he had goneto school for this, and so I
would have taken thesemeditation classes and I'm like,
okay, that's pretty good.
I was inconsistent at the time.
And then a VP in my that Italked to a lot in in the staff
room, a friend of mine.
He had started practicingAshtanga yoga and he said, oh,
(11:03):
you know what?
Would you like a free pass forthe studio I go to?
I was like, yeah, sure, I hearthat's good for stress.
So I started or I'm a, I'mrecovering overachiever I
started going to yoga five daysa week because I was going to be
the best damn yogi ever and Iwas gonna be the stress-free
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superwoman and don't ever dothat to yourself Like don't put
those things on yourself, thatyou have to be something.
But I was doing that and I wentfor the stress, thinking, you
know, this is going to help mewith my stress.
And when I had my own yogastudio I used to joke that
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people would come for the yogabut and not realize that they
were actually getting not theyoga but but way more
dimensionally expanded thingshappening.
So I was doing all of this yogaand when I learned something
and I get lit up by it, really,I was just born to teach people.
I want to teach people.
(12:06):
So I started searching aroundfor a yoga teacher training.
So I started taking a yogateacher training on the weekends
between my corporate job and itwas amazing.
I loved it.
It was taking me further andfurther down a path to what I
was supposed to be doing.
I didn't know it at the time andI was working on this big
(12:30):
project at work that wasamalgamating some divisions and
I knew that when the project wasfinished that the next step was
going to be to step in to bethe controller of the division.
And I was talking to acolleague and I said you know, I
don't want another promotion.
(12:51):
And my now ex-husband, ofcourse he wanted to be a VP by
35.
And I said it to him as well.
I was like what do you mean?
You don't want anotherpromotion.
It just didn't compute for him.
And I was like, look, yeah, youget recognition, you get all of
this stuff.
(13:11):
You get tighter handcuffs onyour wrists, the golden
handcuffs, but the price of thatis my life and my time and my
energy, and it's not worth it.
So I place a value on my health, my wellness, my time, the
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things I want to do in life, andit doesn't even have to be
curing cancer.
What if I just want to sit bythe ocean for half an hour?
You, it's like that is valuableto me, more valuable than 12
hours at a desk.
So there was a person in my yogateacher training class who had
been to India.
So I was like deep intofiguring out meditation and yoga
(13:58):
and I was all ash tag at thetime.
I've expanded my horizons sincethen.
I'm still teaching 20 yearslater and now I'm a mashup of
everything I've ever learned.
So people say, what kind ofstyle of yoga do you teach?
Heather style.
And I knew this person had beento India.
So I said, can we go for coffeeand can you tell me about India
(14:20):
?
Because I was curious and I hadkind of felt like I was my felt
kind of called to go.
I was like I feel like I'mgonna go to India, I feel like
I'm gonna quit my job and go toIndia.
And we went for coffee and hebrought a photo album with him
do you remember those?
yeah, I still have them, yeah,and he showed me the pictures
and he's telling me about it.
(14:41):
And I told him what my plan was.
I said, oh, oh, yeah, so I'mquitting my job and I'm my my
house is, I was getting divorced, my house is on the market and
I'm selling my house and I'm I'mjust going to go take off for a
little while to India.
So I wanted to know what toexpect and he's like, really, he
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said you know, I'm taking aleave of absence from my job and
I'm going back.
And it was like we were goingat the same time.
So we went together and it wasjust like I felt like it was, um
, I had been to some like I'vebeen to Peru and I've been to
the European countries, but I'dnever been anywhere that was so
(15:25):
intense and so intense but soopen.
I mean, it's hard to, unlessyou've been there, it's hard to
describe the energy of the placeLike the contrast is so stark
and at one point I'm sitting onthe train.
I'd only been there a few days.
It took me a couple of weeks toreally let my energy settle
(15:48):
because it was so confronting.
In some ways.
I'm sitting on the train andthere's a man wearing a
three-piece suit.
There's a Nokia I can see itvery clearly, a Nokia.
Behind him he's on his cellphone and next to him on the
ground is a man with no legsbanging.
And I'm like what?
Like?
It was like my brain cells fuse, it was like third world and
(16:10):
first world living in the samecontainer and it was really hard
to for my you know,middle-class Canadian brain to
process it and the more time Ispent there, the more time I was
like these people are, have awhole different view of the
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world, like an entirelydifferent view, and not to
glamorize it or anything,because it is hard there, people
sleeping on the streets and youknow the caste system, but
they're what they value is verydifferent.
I mean, I was sitting in afamily, we were staying with the
family and we were sittingaround the stove it was diwali,
(16:58):
so it was like november-ishsitting around the stove and
they had killed a goat for us,because we're guests and I can't
identify any of the parts ofthe goat in the stew, but it's
all good.
And they were asking usquestions and we're like, no, we
don't have jobs, we don't havekids, we don't have a spouse,
and they felt so bad for us andI'm thinking my coat is worth
(17:24):
more than this house and you,wow.
Totally different perspective,right, and they value community
so much and I was sick at thetime and I didn't know this at
first.
Every time I left the the houseto go, the washroom was in a
room out in a building out back.
(17:45):
The ladies would follow me andand sit at a distance because
they were.
They wanted to make sure that Iwas okay.
So they're all about caring foreach other.
Um, although there's that cast,it's like, I guess, in your cast
system, but it was just such adifferent place to explore.
I stayed for three months and Iwould have stayed longer, but I
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promised my grandmother I wouldcome back for Christmas.
You can't go against, grant,sorry.
NatNatBe (18:17):
What did you learn about yourself while you were
there for three months?
Heather Stewart (18:22):
Oh, that's a good question.
I learned to.
It's interesting when you havethat space to think right and
that alone time.
So I learned that I was acomplete person.
(18:44):
You know, I always felt likesomething was missing.
Like you know, you're alwayssearching, searching.
This is something I was havinga conversation with just last
night.
Humans are searching, searching,searching for something, and I
made a comment that what if weknow, if we found it?
(19:04):
Because we don't know whatwe're looking for Exactly, we
don't stop the search.
So I can remember I was inManali.
Was I in Manali at the time andI stepped off this curb and I
just realized how comfortableand at ease I was.
And I just realized howcomfortable and at ease I was.
(19:26):
I'm like, wow, I'm just like.
I just felt like I am a solid,full, developed, amazing person,
human being, soul of expression, and I don't need to be doing
anything right now except justwalking down the street.
You know, just walking down thestreet, you know, and that frees
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so much of that angst and thatenergy of these, the shooting,
the supposed to's, the, thetrappings that we put on
ourselves, and I mean it comesand goes, because we still, when
I came back to Canada.
It was actually a bit disruptive.
I was like, oh whoa, it's sobright, everything is so shiny,
it's so strange to go to thegrocery store and feel
(20:15):
traumatized by our grocery store.
So it comes like you integrateyourself where you are, but you
still hold that memory and youtap into that at those times
when you're thinking I feelsmall, I feel inadequate, I feel
undeserving, I feel unvaluedand it's like, well, no, you
(20:41):
have everything you need.
It's that internal view that weoften don't like when we did
our mindfulness.
So I've now been meditating forover 20 years and it's I love
that like check in with yourselfand the more you do it, the
more you get to know yourselfand you can recognize oh,
there's that strong person thereis that I don't need that
(21:03):
person outside of me to givethat to me because I'm already
here.
NatNatBe (21:10):
So, in hearing this, if you could give your younger
self permission to do one thing,what would it be?
Heather Stewart (21:20):
Stop being afraid to speak.
Stop being afraid to speak.
So, for I was very shy as a,even into university in my
twenties, somewhere in my around27, 27, by the way, is a huge
age of shifting right.
27 was when I left my firstpartner, who was a narcissist,
(21:50):
and I still have the fridgemagnet that says I am no longer
afraid when that was when I hadto find my voice and my
self-value to say this is notthe right place for me and I
need to do this for me becauseno one else is going to do it
for me.
And, um, this goes back to thatownership thing.
(22:11):
I had to step up for myself andpart of that was finding my
voice to say no and to speak,and I still I mean even now.
so I do, I read Akashic recordsfor myself and others and every
now and then, when I'm talkingto the record keepers, they're
reminding me yeah, you need totalk more, heather.
I'm like, okay, I'm on it,understood.
NatNatBe (22:36):
So, going on that, what is one fear you were afraid
other people would see.
Yet now you've owned it and youown fully.
Heather Stewart (22:49):
And it's so interesting because I was doing
a little exercise this morning.
Even when you overcome a fear,the seeds are still there.
They're just not growinganymore, right?
So I have always had a fearthat people would realize that I
(23:11):
didn't know the answers,because I'm the oldest of four
children.
I't know, and that's achallenge.
(23:32):
I mean, some people see it aslike sometimes it comes out as a
control freak needing tocontrol a situation, but it
doesn't always come out that way.
Sometimes it comes out as Iwon't do something if I don't
know what's gonna happen.
And I can see it in myself and,um, I, luckily I can see it in
(23:53):
myself and I will do a breathpractice, because you need to
release that thing that'sstarting to try and drill its
way into you and go and do itanyway yeah, yeah.
NatNatBe (24:06):
So going back, you said the akasha records.
Some of the listeners might belike what we should talk about.
What the heck is that?
I know what it is, yet couldyou let the listeners know what
that is?
Heather Stewart (24:19):
yeah, the akashic records, oh my gosh
they're.
I didn't know what they were afew years ago and when I found
out about them I just went fulllike I do go full head on into
it.
And it is so.
If we understand that we areall energy and we are all, we
were all connected at some point.
Right, it's like the energy wascontained and then the energy
(24:41):
went out and we are all, arepart of that energy.
So in our 3d density this ishow I like to think of it in our
3d density, this body can'tpossibly contain all that is me.
This is just an expression thatI've put into me right now and
in the energetic realms is therest of me and everything that
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ever was, ever could be, everwill be.
All possibilities, everythingeverywhere, all at once.
So, even though I'm heretalking to you, there's a
version of me who's packing forI'm leaving for Portugal today,
packing for Portugal.
You know there's all of theseversions and they're all in the
energy because it doesn'tcoalesce into form until you
(25:25):
make a decision that coalescesinto form and there's energetic
beings who are in charge of my.
I'd like to imagine it as alibrary, because it helps me
frame it for myself.
So there's a library of heatherand then there's dudes.
My dudes are hanging out at thedoor and they're my record
(25:46):
keepers and when I drop into theright space and open my records
, I can ask them questions.
And the interesting thing aboutthe record keepers because some
people see it as kind of like,um, psychics it's not really
psychics, because psychics Idon't know what energy stream
(26:06):
they're tapping into.
They're kind of tapping intotimelines.
This is just me and they won'tanswer me.
If they, if it's, they don'tthink it's going to be helpful.
I'll ask them something andthey're like they'll just say
straight up yeah, you don't needto know that.
And sometimes they talk likeyoda for me.
So everybody's record keepers,because I'll read for other
(26:28):
people as well.
Um, you get permission to openother people's records and their
record keepers will answerquestions for you.
Everybody's record keepers havea slightly different energy.
Mine are a bunch of comediansand they sound like yoda
sometimes.
Sometimes they sound like DrSeuss and sometimes they'll give
you the answer in a way thatyou don't understand until later
(26:49):
.
But, um, interesting, talkingto them and asking them
questions that are on my mindhelps me feel like, helps me
drop into that trust place thatit might feel like something's
not going right right now, butreally it's.
(27:12):
It's all good, like anytime.
Something happens now and Istart to feel that stress, I'm
oh yeah, this is actuallyhappening for a reason.
This is supposed to happen.
So just ride it out Right.
Recognize that I'm going tohave emotions, but don't let
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them stay too long.
Let them keep going.
NatNatBe (27:40):
Speaking about emotions you had mentioned, you
know that that is one of thethings that is required in
healing and and you know reallife, where a lot of people are
cerebral, and it's the samepractice that I educate people a
lot of people think theirfeelings they don't actually
feel.
Their feelings and emotionsaren't to be analyzed when
(28:03):
you're feeling them.
They're only supposed to befelt and processed so that the
information can come up.
But if you're analyzing, you'resuppressing and bypassing some
of that embodiment that's needed.
What does that process looklike for you?
Heather Stewart (28:18):
It can depend on what's happening.
So, and it's true, I mean, ifyou think about like an emotion
is um cause, your body isintelligent.
That's how it's going to speakto you, right, if it?
If it thinks something isdangerous for you, it's going to
(28:40):
give you fear.
Dangerous for you, it's goingto give you fear.
And if it thinks something was,you know, undesirable, sad,
like all these emotions thatcome and I sometimes joke with
people, it's like we don't livein Pleasantville, you know.
(29:02):
So don't tell people not just toget over it and cheer up,
because if we don't process itespecially as a yoga teacher,
you know people tuck it away intheir bodies and when they start
doing yoga, sometimes it comesout at the time.
They don't want it.
So for me, I usually have likeI've met.
What I do now I didn't used todo it.
This is what I found to be themost effective is, first, you
(29:25):
have to realize that you'rehaving one right, you're having
something and not push it away,depending on what it is.
And if there's people in theroom, I might tell them just so
they don't, so they don't getany.
You know, they don't get intothe range of what's going to
(29:47):
come out, you know, stay out ofthe line of fire.
And I actually will kind of talkto it, because it's kind of
like a meditation practice, likeoh, hi there, what's going on?
Like where did you come from?
Why are you here?
What have you got to tell me?
And it's interesting because Istarted, I noticed, specifically
(30:09):
yesterday.
I was like anxiety, what areyou doing here?
I haven't seen you in years andit's a physical feeling that I
have, which is why I recognizeit, and I really have not seen
it for years.
I'm like what are you doing here?
And that's what I was talkingabout earlier.
I'm going to Portugal today.
I have never been, and I'mgoing alone and I've rented a
(30:31):
car and my body is going, butyou don't know what's going to
happen, even though I'm likeit's going to be fine, I'll be
fine, everything's fine.
No, what if something happens?
You know I can hear like my, mygrandmother, is what if
something happens?
Well, well, it'll be fine.
(30:52):
You know, it's like I'm, I feellike I'm without a safety net
for quite a while and I had topause and go hello.
What are you doing here?
And do some breath work andespecially diaphragmatic, like
(31:14):
letting all of that stuff movethrough, don't let it grab a
hold, don't let it pull you intoit.
So really taking some time totalk to yourself about why it's
there so valuable.
NatNatBe (31:29):
Yeah, I think there's also because people don't know
how to validate themselves, theydon't know how to witness.
So of course we're going toshut down and push it away
because it's overwhelming, it'suncomfortable and we've been
taught a lot of us that whateverwe're feeling isn't the feeling
(31:50):
to be feeling right now.
It should be somethingdifferent than that.
So, to allow these authenticemotions to come up and
recognize, sometimes you knowit's unknown territory because
you're allowing an emotion thatyou haven't ever felt.
Unknown territory becauseyou're allowing an emotion that
you haven't ever felt.
Yet you are recognizing toothat certain body sensations
lets me know oh, here you arevisiting again.
(32:10):
I thought I got rid of you, yetthere's no such thing.
It's always when they comeknock at the door.
Are you gonna let me in or areyou gonna slam the door and
freak out and be and it's likeno, if you can allow it in and
be in the space and recognize,you can be in the space, but
you're not taking over to hijackmy behavior yeah, we're taught
(32:31):
to drive the bus exactly, yetyou can be in the space of
acknowledging it and we haven'treally been given that space of
validation well, even like ifyou have started observing
people with that thought in mind, of it's almost like they want
us to be homogeneously happy,which is why I use Pleasantville
.
Heather Stewart (32:51):
You know, little kids are upset.
Don't cry.
Big boys don't cry.
I'm like, yeah, they do.
Like, let them cry.
Oh my God, if they stuff itdown, what's going to happen to
them later?
Or, you know, little girlsdon't scream.
Yeah, they do.
And if they don't, they'llbecome I don't know who knows,
they'll become muted actress.
(33:12):
Yeah, they'll become theactress who's known for
screaming, and it's just all ofthese things if we don't allow
them.
And I, I had a client once whohad a head injury and it was so
fascinating to talk to herbecause her brain started
working differently.
I could talk to her and shetalked about how one day she was
(33:33):
angry and her fist was comingand she was looking like the
anger was in her fist and shewas looking at it.
It's like who is this?
And I'm like you can have anger.
It's like who is this and I'mlike you can have anger, but
don't be angry.
Like your body was telling youthat you had anger, but you
didn't have to become thisembodiment of anger and it was
(33:53):
just so fascinating the way herbrain worked and we have the
ability to do that.
So anxiety came to visit me andI let them in and I had a
conversation with them.
I gave them a coffee, but Iasked them to leave.
We had a conversation likethank you for your concern, I'm
going anyway.
NatNatBe (34:15):
Yeah.
So a question If your paincould speak, what would it say
to you today?
Heather Stewart (34:22):
Pain, pain.
It doesn't use clean language,that's fine, okay, listen, bitch
, get up off your ass and justget moving and how have you had?
NatNatBe (34:42):
were you always with a good relationship with pain?
Heather Stewart (34:47):
hmm, I don't know the answer to that.
I don't it.
It's funny because I don't.
When I think of pain in twodifferent ways, I think of, like
physical pain.
Physical pain and I are on a.
(35:07):
I'm going to be 60 in a coupleof years and I don't think
people need to have pain as theyget old.
But just the way my body'sbuilt, some things have started
talking to me.
I'm like, hey, how's it going?
And I think emotional pain isthe think that we hide.
(35:33):
Emotional pain, and myemotional pain is saying stop
hiding, stop hiding the thingsthat you don't want people to
know about you and putting thoseyou know, that happiness face
on, though most of the time I amhappy, but deep down in
(35:58):
everyone there's some somethingthat they don't want people to
know about them because of fear,like fear of being kicked off
the island, fear of judgment,fear of then people will have a
different idea of who I am.
Instead of, what usuallyhappens is people say oh, thank
(36:18):
goodness, I'm not the only oneright exactly, exactly.
NatNatBe (36:25):
It's what it is to be human and have a nervous system
and, rather than chastise it,you know, befriend it and ask
what are you trying to protectme from that?
You think that I don't have thecapacity to feel and experience
, so in that, why it's?
Heather Stewart (36:40):
so funny right.
Yeah, why it's so funny.
NatNatBe (36:43):
Yeah, and it's just being able to look at it in a
reverse way, rather than gettingrid of something or becoming
something else.
It's about integration, and theintegration requires you to
feel.
Yet we're taught in society notto feel pain, not to feel
emotions, and just keep pushingthrough, you know, cerebrally,
academically, and just go.
Heather Stewart (37:06):
We glorify the logic brain so much.
I mean, I've been doing a lotof reading.
It's like that logical, it's amath.
It's not men versus women, it'sa masculine energy, where the
feminine energy is the feelingenergy and has been discounted
for so long as inappropriate wedon't like, imagine if you're in
(37:30):
the workplace and having atemper tantrum.
imagine if, as an accountantactually I did cry sometimes
when I was an accountant but Iwould go hide in the bathroom.
Yeah, of course you can't.
You can't cry, you're at work.
No, crying at work.
NatNatBe (37:44):
Not at all.
Not at all.
You will be weaponized andvilified Like no.
Weaponized and vilified Like no.
It's so unsafe, no, yeah.
So what is one BS?
And when I say BS, I meanbelief systems that you once
believed, that you were able torelease because you recognize it
no longer serves you.
Heather Stewart (38:07):
So, because I spent 12 years with a narcissist
, I had a belief for a long timethat my value was only tied to
that person, that I was notsmart, that I was not attractive
(38:39):
, that nobody else would want melike and and I mean it's
insidious and it would, and itand I started with that person
at a time when I was still inyou know, I was still a teenager
.
So you're in your developmentalphases where you're so worried,
like teenagers they're tryingto figure out who they are, and
when you come through that,believing those things about
yourself, that takes some timeto untangle those things right.
(39:01):
It takes some time to recognizethat it's a small T.
Truth is what I call it.
Yeah, you might've believed itis true, but there's too much
evidence to the contrary, whichis the logical side of it.
But for me, I had to start withthe logic to move into the
feeling and the allowing of itto be true, because I didn't
(39:23):
know how else to get out of it.
You know.
NatNatBe (39:27):
Thank you for that vulnerability and that
transparency.
Thank you for thatvulnerability and that
transparency.
You know, speaking our ownstory, you have to.
You know well you don't have to.
Yet If you are really doing thework, you're going through
seeing yourself and what thatlook like with this awareness,
and sometimes our presentawareness wants to chastise the
(39:48):
past awareness because youshould have known better or you
should have been this, tochastise the past awareness
because you should have knownbetter, or you should have been
this, or, and it's like no, it'sreally seeing that
vulnerability of being able tointegrate it all and I don't
think like I think sometimesabout things that I thought when
I was younger or things I didwhen I was younger and you could
give yourself a hard time.
Heather Stewart (40:08):
But that's like giving yourself a hard time for
wearing your hair teased in the80s like it was.
You did what you could, but atthe time with what you knew and
I was.
It's funny, it's related toexercise but, um, I was doing
this class this this morning andhe said if you're not
(40:28):
challenging your stability, thenyou're not improving your
stability.
So we were.
I was doing balancing and it'sall about you know, if you are,
if you can like be in a placewhere you're a little bit
unsteady, then you, yoursteadiness just improves and
(40:49):
improves.
But you can't do that from theget-go.
You have to like learn your waythere.
You have to take step by step bystep.
So I look at myself now andsometimes I go, wow, if I knew
what I knew back then.
But I wouldn't be who I am nowif I didn't have to go through
all that bullshit that I wentthrough.
NatNatBe (41:07):
Yeah, it's really rewiring what learning looks
like.
It's not about getting the a'sand knowing it all.
Learning means you have no ideawhat you're doing and you're
figuring it out and it's reallyuncomfortable to learn like.
It's really um challenging tolearn like the, the grit that
goes in the mind, because themind wants to know it everything
(41:28):
, because perfection feels likesafety, perfection, and that's
been like that, like that wasthe thing that I, that's the
thing that I Mind wants to knowit everything.
Heather Stewart (41:31):
Because perfection feels like safety.
Perfection feels secure andthat's been my like.
That was the thing that I,that's the thing that I, when
it's going to show up, that'sthe thing that's going to show
up for me still is no, you'rethe A student.
You have to have all theanswers and get the A's and be
the best and don't make mistakes, because then people will know
you don't know everything.
NatNatBe (41:53):
Right.
Yeah, the most powerfulstrength you could have is like
acknowledging I don't know Rightand stand in that and feel all
the winds and the whistles andjust still stand firm.
You're safe to not know in aworld that wants all the answers
.
Heather Stewart (42:11):
Yeah, I started practicing the I don't know,
and I actually did itconsciously because I realized
and the person that I went toIndia with we're having our 20th
anniversary this summer, nice,but I because, because of who he
is, it was like he was sent tome.
Because of who he is, I startedpracticing with him.
(42:32):
I don't know and does he stilllike me?
Like like everything that I'velearned and done and challenged
over the past 20 years and weare, he is still 100 like he is,
he's like my teacher of how tobe okay, not like developing,
(42:56):
and it's just been amazing westarted off the conversation
talking about manifesting yourreality, right and how.
NatNatBe (43:05):
if people really understood the ownership of that
and they might be recognizingthe work that goes into that.
So can you elaborate a littlebit more on your perspective on
this and what some people mightbe missing in this work, right?
Heather Stewart (43:22):
So we can go from 3D to quantum with this.
So, if you think, I'm alwaysreminded of someone I knew who
had read the Secret and said I'mvisualizing my new home, I'm
manifesting, and nothing everhappened.
I said, well, it's not like youcan't do something.
(43:42):
You have to be a participant inthis.
So there has to be an actionand the action has to be taken
by you.
So if I want to decide that Ineed a different life, I could
have visualized all I want, thatI wanted a different life when
I was in corporate, but I had tostand up for myself, use my
(44:06):
voice and make somethingdifferent happen and trust that
the actions that I was takingwere going to help create the
world that I was envisioning.
Right, but then you can goquantum and say, because people
will say, you are the, basicallyyou are God, if you want to use
(44:28):
the G word, and you havecreated this entire thing to
have an experience of yourself.
And I have created NatNet and Ihave created podcasts and I've
created the whole thing andincluding the war, including the
famine, including, you know,terrorism, including crazy
(44:49):
politicians and the politicalsystem and I was having a
conversation last night.
On a 3D scale, we havedifficulty taking ownership for
our own lives.
As I'm thinking of someonewho's Pacific, who complains
constantly that this is notright and this is not right, and
(45:11):
this is not right and this isnot right, I'm like, well, then,
change it.
But she won't take ownershipfor her life.
So if it's hard to takeownership for your life, you
can't take ownership for thewhole universe.
It's like start small, startwith you and start with your
environment.
If you don't, if yourenvironment is uncomfortable,
(45:33):
you change it.
And don't complain about howsomeone is treating you because
you're giving them permission totreat you that way.
Don't complain.
We were complaining earlierabout the government.
Don't complain about thegovernment because we created
the government.
If you want it to change, youhave to do something, and people
will say say I'm too small andtoo alone.
And no, you are not small.
(45:56):
That's what we were talkingabout earlier.
You are a big, powerful beingand you are here for a purpose,
I believe, and not everybody'spurpose has to be curing cancer.
Some people's purposes aren't?
I talk about a beautiful gardenthat I walk by that woman.
I'm pretty sure her purpose inlife is to make that garden
(46:17):
gorgeous, because I stop infront of it every day,
especially now spring's here,and just look at the flowers and
it makes my heart so happy.
And if that's her purpose inlife, she's achieving it.
Right, it's just beautiful.
But people attach this need forit to be something huge and
(46:38):
significant.
And the word significant is soloaded because she's making a
significant difference in mylife, but it's not measurable in
a monetary scale, right?
So we don't say it'ssignificant.
So I think manifesting andownership is be okay.
(47:04):
That wherever you are now iswhere you decided to be.
Be okay that it may not bewhere you want to be, right, it
may be like holy shit, how did Iget here?
I don't like it.
That's what happened with mewhen I was an accountant.
How did I get here?
I don't like it.
(47:24):
So I decided to put on my like Isay my big girl pants and be
the boss, be the CEO of my life,be the boss of my life and say,
okay, I want somethingdifferent.
How am I going to do this?
And not everybody is going toquit their job and leave the
country, but even small changescan help you start to exercise,
(47:45):
flex that muscle of ownership,of responsibility, and once you
start to get stronger.
You make those bigger decisionsuntil you can actually look and
say, okay, this is my life,this is how I like it.
The city is okay, it's working.
(48:06):
Okay, the country?
Well, let's make some changesin the country.
The world, like.
My big, fat, hairy goal is to Ialways joke with my mom change
to save the world.
And I do it by tidal wave.
I put drips in the water andthey flow outwards and get
bigger and bigger and bigger.
Exactly Right.
NatNatBe (48:27):
Yeah.
So I know the listeners arelike, okay, where can I get a
hold of Heather and where can Ifind her.
So could you let the listenersknow where they can find you and
what you have to offer?
Heather Stewart (48:39):
Yes, so everything is.
It's easy to find because whowants to jump all over the
planet?
Heather Stewartcoach is whereall the alls are.
I have the podcast you canlisten to and actually, starting
in June, I'm going to be on theInspired Choices Network, so I
will be on 300 live TV stationsand 80 audio platforms.
(49:01):
Oh my God Talking big.
I really got to pull up to getup to that.
And I have a free membershiparea area which is off social
media and there's no toxicityallowed in that area.
It's a place where there's Ihave my free resources.
You know.
I have like some meditationsand I teach this yoga, tai chi
(49:25):
fusion class that I loveteaching and, um, there's a quiz
there.
There's like a roadmap for Iteach the thriving life method
and then I have like a diy spacegroup coaching, the like
one-on-one coaching, but it'sall housed because it's easier
to send people to heathershortcoach and instagram,
(49:47):
facebook, linkedin all the allswell, I want to thank you, for
it's already been almost an hourand it feels fast right.
NatNatBe (49:57):
Yeah, it was very opening and inviting
conversation and one thing youknow that stood out is I want to
thank you for the alchemy thatyou've done in your life, taking
those impurities, you know,really seeing where you were and
recognizing this isn't where Iwant to be Also going through
some health challenges andillnesses and still, you know,
(50:19):
pivoting and asking yourselfsome very profound questions.
So you've taken thoseimpurities and you've turned
them into gold, yet you didn'tkeep the gold for yourself.
You're sharing it with others.
So thank you you so much,heather, for all of the work
that you are doing in the lightyou're bringing into the world.
Thank you, thank you.
Please remember to be kind toyourself yes, hey you made it
(50:45):
all the way here.
I appreciate you and your time.
If you found value in thisconversation, please share it
out.
If there was somebody thatpopped into your mind, take
action and share it out withthem.
It possibly may not be themthat will benefit.
It's that they know somebodythat will benefit from listening
to this conversation, so pleasetake action and share out the
(51:10):
podcast.
You can find us on social mediaon facebook, instagram and
tiktok under lift oneself, andif you want to inquire about the
work that I do and the servicesthat I provide to people, come
over on my website, come into adiscovery call liftoneselfcom.
(51:30):
Until next time, pleaseremember to be kind and gentle
with yourself.
You matter.
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