August 18, 2025 โข 47 mins
Feeling burnt out, inflamed, or stuck in survival mode? In this transformative episode, herbalist Jane Barlow Christensen reveals how everyday plants can become your most powerful allies for stress relief and nervous system healing.
Growing up as one of 14 children with a medicinal botanist father, Jane learned plant medicine from childhoodโbut like many of us, she strayed from natural healing in her twenties. After experiencing health issues from processed foods and chronic stress, she returned to her roots and has now spent 23 years helping others discover nature's pharmacy.
What You'll Learn:
- The top 3 adaptogenic herbs for stress, burnout, and inflammation (holy basil, ashwagandha, rhodiola)
- How to start your herbal healing journey with simple herbal teas and fresh spices
- Why your gut is your second brain and how plant medicine supports digestion and immunity
- Natural remedies for grief and emotional healing, including the powerful osha root
- How to become your own "mad scientist" and trust your body's intuitive wisdom
- Why taking radical responsibility for your health means looking beyond pharmaceuticals
Perfect for:
- Anyone dealing with chronic stress, anxiety, or burnout
- People seeking natural alternatives to pharmaceutical solutions
- Beginners wanting to start with herbal medicine and plant-based healing
- Those interested in nervous system regulation and holistic wellness
Jane's practical, no-nonsense approach makes plant medicine accessible for everyoneโno matter where you are on your healing journey. Discover how simple herbs can help you reclaim your inner healer and transform your relationship with stress.
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Episode Transcript
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NatNat Be (00:00):
Your triggers aren't the problem.
Ignoring them is.
Welcome to the Lift One Selfpodcast.
I'm your host, Nat Nat, and wedon't fake wellness here.
No fluff, no fixing, justhonest conversations about your
nervous system and what it is tobe human, Ready to stop running
from yourself.
Welcome to a safe space.
(00:22):
Let's go.
Jane Barlow Christensen (00:23):
And today we're going to get into
medicine, and maybe not themedicine you're used to.
We're going to get into plantmedicine and nature and what it
can do for you.
Where many of us are bombardedwith the pharmaceutical and
numbing pain, I want to bring aholistic and show people a
different way that we can beconnected into nature in a much
(00:46):
more profound way.
So I have a guest.
Her name is Jane BarlowChristensen I hope I said it
properly and I'm going to askher to introduce herself to me
and the listeners and let usknow a little bit about herself
before we dive in deep.
Okay, well, thank you, natanat,it's really nice to be here.
So I live in Salt Lake City,utah.
(01:09):
I grew up the second oldest of14 kids.
My dad was a medicinal botanist, so he loved everything plants,
plant medicine.
He always took us out hikingand we were identifying plants
everywhere they were andeverywhere we would go, and this
was just a normal part of thechildhood that me and my
siblings experienced.
(01:30):
And then I grew up.
I had two kids of my own.
My first career was in fitness.
I did personal training.
I used to own my own gym and Idid that for about 20 years.
And then my dad passed away forabout 20 years.
And then my dad passed away andhis business that he had had
started a really beautiful groupof really uniquely formulated
(01:50):
herbal tinctures and he had areal love of Native American
plants.
So when he passed away, hisbusiness died with him.
Because he was the scientist, hewas the PhD, and all of us,
while we, I think we tended todiscount how important
experience is, Um, it's just asimportant.
(02:14):
You know, none of us feltworthy to really step into my
dad's shoes.
So I restarted his company.
Uh, four years after he passedand he's been gone for 27 years,
so I've been going for 23.
Um, it's, I can't believe I getto carry on my dad's work and
then I have a whole line ofherbal remedies that I've
(02:34):
formulated myself.
But I've discovered that I havea really beautiful connection
to plants and it's almost likethey talk to me, um, and, and I
do get intuitive hits on what Ineed to focus on and research
and study next.
So, yeah, that's what I get todo.
it's brilliant yeah, I was just.
(02:54):
Uh, before we started recording, I told you I was in my garden
yesterday for like 10 hours nomusic, no podcasts, just being
with the dirt, listening,listening to the plants,
figuring out what needs to behere, what needs to be there,
and, just, you know, findingthat communication.
And I totally hear you whenit's like listen to what the
plants are trying to tell you,like we're feeling bodies that
(03:17):
think we go by frequency, soeverything is sending off a
frequency, and we're really told, like you know, to stay away
from our intuition, to notlisten to our gut instincts, and
some of the things that we dosee, we think that it'll be
conceived as woo-woo or that wedon't know what we're talking
about.
Yet when we go deeper into that, there's such a trust and a
(03:39):
profound depthness to what canbe possible and learn so much
more profoundly than whatacademic leans on to.
Not saying that academic is notneeded.
It's simply that if academiccould also allow intuition to
come in, what a beautifulcombination that would be of
(04:01):
that uniqueness and intelligence.
Before we start to dive in deepbecause I have some questions of
my own would you join me in amindful moment so that we can
ground ourselves.
I would love to.
That sounds amazing For thelisteners.
As you always hear, safetyfirst.
If you're driving or need yourvisual, please don't close your
(04:24):
eyes.
Yet the other prompts you canfollow and listen to, to just
take that mindful moment to slowthings down in your day.
So, jane, I'll ask you to getcomfortable in your seating and,
if it's safe to do so, you'regoing to gently close your eyes
and you're going to beginbreathing in and out through
(04:44):
your nose.
You're going to bring yourawareness to watching your
breath.
You're not going to try andcontrol your breath, you're just
going to be aware of its rhythm, allowing it to guide you into
your body there may be somesensations or feelings coming up
, that's okay.
NatNat Be (05:10):
Let them surface.
You're safe to feel.
Jane Barlow Christensen (05:16):
You're safe to let go.
Surrender the need to control.
NatNat Be (05:24):
Release the need to resist and just be.
Jane Barlow Christensen (05:25):
Be with your breath, drop deeper into
your body.
Now there may be some thoughtsor to-do lists that have popped
up.
That's okay.
Gently bring your awarenessback to your breath, creating
space between the awareness andthe thoughts and dropping deeper
(05:46):
into the body, being in thespace of presence with your
breath.
Again, more thoughts may havepopped up.
Gently bring your awarenessback to your breath, beginning
again, surrendering completelyinto the body, creating even
(06:12):
more space between the awarenessand the thoughts and allowing
yourself to just be.
Be in the breath, be in thepresence.
Now, while still staying withyour breath, at your own time
(06:39):
and at your own pace.
You're going to gently openyour eyes while staying with
your breath.
How's your heart doing, right?
So you mentioned you know yourfather had, uh, this connection
with plants in your childhood.
Did he bring you into thatcuriosity and give you the
(07:00):
experiences of understandingwhat certain plants did and what
their medicinal purposes were?
Yeah, that was just a constantpart of our childhood and it
wasn't just me, it was all of mysiblings.
So it wasn't like he sat usdown and lectured us about it.
Never, that was never part ofit.
It was all like, you know, we'dbe driving somewhere and he'd
(07:23):
want he'd see a plant next tothe road that he wanted to
identify and teach us about.
And this is the part of theplant you use.
This is a common name, this isthe Latin name, and we're going
to, we're going to harvest, youknow, harvest the flowers after
the dew dissipates off, andwe're going to take it home and
we're going to make it into atincture or like.
This was just a constant.
We had pots and herbseverywhere and, um, you know, my
(07:48):
mom was all aboard all in whenshe wasn't having babies.
She was, you know, we this iswhat we all did.
So, yeah, it was just a normalpart of our growing up.
We learned pretty quickly asteenagers that we were.
We were very different fromeverybody as far as kind of
hippie-ish, very different fromeverybody as far as kind of
hippie-ish in a not a bad way.
(08:10):
But, you know, as adults nowwe're all like thank God, we
were raised that way Cause itwas a real gift.
Yeah, is there anything in yourchildhood that you wished you
would have paid attention alittle bit more to, or you were
very present with it?
Yeah, that's a great question.
You know, we were.
We dipped in and out ofhomeschool and of course, every
person my age says this, buttimes were different back then.
(08:34):
Yeah, they were internet.
You know, I grew I was born in61.
So 60s and 70s were mychildhood and we were present,
simply because that's how themajority of humans were then.
I don't know how it would bedifferent, right, I think?
Well, I think it would bedifferent if my dad was raising
us now.
But yeah, we were very present,it was beautiful.
(08:55):
Yeah, because I you know, likeit doesn't matter where we are
with technology or no technology, there's still this counter,
you know, intuitive thing thatgoes on with parent and child,
and sometimes we find ourparents boring, or here we go
again with something else andyou don't really understand the
depthness of what they'reteaching you.
So it's like, it's nice when it, like you said, it didn't feel
(09:19):
like a lecture, it didn't feellike you were being dragged into
something, it was just part oflife that was embedded in your
everyday.
Yeah, and I think it was reallyunique in the fact that there
was.
There was not enough time forour parents to for us to feel
like our parents were trying totell us what to do because they
were so busy having and raisingso many kids that it was.
(09:42):
You know, when I turned 18 andleft the home, my parents never
told me what to do.
They never told me.
They never bailed me out offinancial mistakes.
They never.
Now, they loved me and theystayed in communication with me
and all my other siblings as westarted to leave the house.
But there was never.
We got to make a lot ofmistakes the hard way.
You know we didn't do anythingto put our life in danger, but
(10:05):
that was like a real gift that Ithink a lot of parents could
really stand to to maybe do alittle more of.
Let your kids leave or leavethe nest, and don't try to tell
them every little thing to do,even though you know what's best
for them.
You know my kids are in theirforties now and I have grandkids
and it's like so badly, evenwith my kids in their 40s, I
(10:29):
want to tell them what to dobecause, I know.
NatNat Be (10:31):
I know better.
Jane Barlow Christensen (10:33):
Yeah, it's a difficult thing as a
parent, as I you know.
What we're not told is the mostdifficult thing is witnessing
the pain of your children andnot being able to do anything
and recognizing that life willteach things and, unfortunately,
as humans we really learn withpain.
We don't learn with joy andease.
(10:53):
So as soon as something reallyhits us, we course correct
really quickly and we're like wedon't want that, whereas for
some reason, our condition, ifwe appreciate something, we can
find it difficult to really growon that abundance and ride in
that intuition and flow.
Uh, I think you know 14 childrenI that my brain hurts because I
(11:15):
have twins and I have a 30 yearold, so the twins are 15 and
then, um, the 30 year old, sothree boys.
I'm like 14.
I don't even know when youwould be able to even take a
breath for yourself, becausethat's a lot of different
personalities, a lot ofdifferent stages of development.
So, with the plants, how wasthat incorporated in your
(11:39):
everyday living?
Um, for, like you know, there'sso many ailments and illnesses
that go on with children.
So was that just embedded toknow what to use and when to use
it?
Well, I think it's multi-layered.
You know, we didn't grow upeating fast food or processed
food.
I mean, we had always had a biggarden.
(12:00):
My mom did a ton of canning, wemade all our homemade bread.
Big garden, my mom did a ton ofcanning, we made all our
homemade bread.
Um, and when, I guess whenyou're feeding that many kids,
and in that time too, I thinkthe food supply was a little bit
different.
And and then here's kind of amassive thing that I is very
controversial, but none of uswere vaccinated and none of us
have health problems.
(12:20):
So, uh, I never really thoughtit was a big deal until 2020.
Then it became a big deal.
But I do believe that it'smulti-layered in the food that
we ate and the food that wedidn't eat.
So we didn't go to the doctor alot unless there was like a
broken bone.
One of my sisters had herappendix burst when she was a
teenager and only like emergencycare did we ever go to the
(12:44):
doctor.
But we were just, um, we didhave access to medicinal herbs,
but it was so my mom cooked witha lot of stuff like basil and
rosemary and cayenne, andthere's a lot of power.
That's herbal medicine thatpeople might not realize because
they're simply cooking with itand that was just our lifestyle.
It wasn't simply cooking withit and that was just our
(13:06):
lifestyle it wasn't oh you'resick.
You need to do this, even thoughthat did happen sometimes with,
like a bad cold or when we'dget PMS as teenage girls or
whatever, there was always herbsthere, yeah.
Yeah, so for you, because it was, you know, part of your living
experience.
When did you finally recognizethat plants and nature were more
(13:28):
profoundly like your ally, andit was medicine, Like it's one
thing for your dad to teach yousomething, but for you to really
intuitively look at it in adifferent way and have a
different relationship with?
it?
Yeah, that is such a perfectquestion because almost every
one of me and all my siblingsfell off the wagon when we left
the house and got.
(13:49):
I got married when I was 18.
I had my boys when I was 20 and21.
So I was very young and I Ithought the whole world was
opened up to me.
I started eating, drinking dietCoke and eating fast food, and
you know I.
So through my twenties I startedhaving some minor health issues
like constipation, digestion.
(14:10):
You know I, sometimes I didn'tsleep that great and I and I'm
lucky, and all my siblings arethe same we all fell off the
wagon and, like you said alittle bit ago, you have to
sometimes learn these painfullessons before you go.
Oh course, correct, I need togo over here.
So, you know, by the time I was30, I had dialed it all back in
(14:30):
and you know I'm 64 now andit's like I've had perfect
health for a long, long time.
But I did go through a painfullearning curve of what I thought
I had been being deprived of.
You know, ding dongs andTwinkies were my favorite for
almost a decade and I, you knowit's a little crazy to even
(14:52):
think that I would never touchthose now.
So, yeah, you know it'srecognizing too.
Sometimes, I think, when we'rekept away from something, your
curiosity is going to wonder youknow, what does that taste like
?
And these foods are created tokeep you addicted also.
So it opens up all kinds ofdifferent sensors and chemical
(15:16):
dumps and everything else.
And I thank you for beingvulnerable, not having that
perfectionism and like, oh, it'salways been my way having that
perfectionism and like, oh, it'salways been my way.
It's like, no, I'm human tooand I had to, you know, traverse
in different ways to reallyunderstand, to understand the
profound foundation that myparents created for me and that
(15:36):
you could lean back into that.
Some people don't even havethat foundation, so they're
trying to create that as anadult.
It's true, and here's the coolthing, I think people need to
realize that they can create it,no matter where they are, what
stage or age they are, and thenyou get to build that foundation
for your posterity, yourchildren or your grandchildren,
because the foundation might behard to build Like.
(16:00):
My dad was the only one in hisfamily he's the second oldest of
seven, and he's the only one inhis family.
He's the second oldest of sevenand he's the only one who did
that, and so the rest of hisfamily worked in the family
electrical and plumbing business, except for my dad.
So he had to build thisfoundation for us, and now we've
all built it for our kids andour grandkids.
You have to start somewhere andrealize that that knowledge and
(16:28):
wisdom and foundation that youpass on is going to go on to
your posterity, which changesthe game for everyone.
NatNat Be (16:32):
Yeah.
Jane Barlow Christensen (16:34):
In a world that's so quick to numb or
suppress or outsource healing,how can someone begin to claim
their inner healer?
Like that inner healer and alsolike, especially if they're
overwhelmed and burnt out, like,how can they return back into
(16:54):
their body and start tointroduce grown food, like earth
foods, even like the spices,Because I know a lot of people
it's like an all or nothing.
And let me just switch itreally big where I've learned
small little steps start tochange so that you're not
overwhelming your whole systemand beating yourself up.
So how would you meet thatperson that is just now coming
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to realize and wants to startmaking those shifts?
Yeah, I love this questionthere's.
My two favorite ways are first,and start introducing herbal
teas into your daily routine,because teas are delicious,
they're nutritious and they'resuper easy.
It's really easy to get apacket of peppermint, organic
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peppermint tea, and if you sipon peppermint tea with your
evening meal or after yourevening meal, you're improving
digestion.
Peppermint is very calming, ithas a ton of really beneficial
properties and it's deliciousand you might not really realize
the power that you're getting.
And then something likedandelion root tea is really
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nourishing for your liver andyou know, and it's if you're not
used to drinking tea or maybeyou love tea.
This is just a really good wayto step up and start, because I
agree with you, I think somepeople want to go all in and
change everything at once, andthat's some people can do that.
Very few people can do that andI think a lot of people I see
do do that maybe have just beendiagnosed with something really
(18:24):
hardcore and they're likethey've had a wake up call.
But for most of us it's likenot only are baby steps
important, but they there's areally beautiful concept called
the compound effect, thatbasically one little thing that
you do and you do start doingthat daily, it compounds in.
In fact there's a really goodbook called the compound effect
(18:44):
by Darren Hardy which isabsolutely powerful and um, not
just the herbs.
Then my second way is withspices that you add into your,
into your, your food.
And it's here's the thing withspices the fresher the better.
So if you have a bunch ofspices sitting in your cupboard
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and they've been sitting therefor a year, five years, 10 years
, they might still flavor yourfood a little bit but they're
not going to give you anymedicinal benefits because
they've all oxidized and youneed to get your spices in small
amounts, as fresh as possible,and keep them rotated.
So buy small and keep, like abasil plant in your kitchen.
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You know everybody can go get abasil plant from the grocery
store and keep it in yourkitchen and use it.
So if someone's listening rightnow and they feel burnt out,
inflamed, a lot of people thinkweight gain is like weight,
where it's like it'sinflammation a lot of times
because your system isoverworking or they're stuck in
survival.
(19:45):
What are three herbs you wouldwant to hand them with love, and
why?
Well, number one I love forstress and almost survival is
holy basil, and holy basil is anadaptogenic herb.
It's in the it's in the mintfamily.
It tastes delicious, it's easy,easy to get and my favorite way
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is in a tea, because holy basiltea there's nothing more
nourishing.
And what an adaptogenic herbwill do is it'll.
It helps to balance bodychemistry.
It lets your body know thatyou're not running for your life
, you're not in fight or flight.
You are in fight or flight butyou're not in physical danger.
But we get so used to thosehormones being out of whack in
(20:29):
our modern world we think thatkind of stress is normal that we
don't realize that we'reconstantly in a state of chronic
stress.
So holy basil is probably mytop.
I love things like ashwagandhais really good, and for women I
think it's really important touse things like rhodiola or even
maca, and all of those I justmentioned are adaptogens.
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Those will immediately balanceyour body chemistry.
It helps your hormones, ithelps your nervous system, it
helps your digestion, which, ifyou are in chronic stress, you
can have.
Your immune system takes a hike.
Yeah, inflammation ensues.
And, um, if you can simply sipon an herbal tea during the day.
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There's no stimulants in it,it's not going to make you know,
it doesn't do it.
Diagnosis of what caused thelesions.
Yet, you know, going internallyand really listening to what my
system needed, what naturecould provide in that, and what
are things outside of thepharmaceutical.
Because when I would ask youknow what about nutrition, they
(21:51):
were like, well, there's nothing, we can't patent that.
What about you know otherthings that, well, we can't
patent that?
What about you know otherthings that, well, we can't
patent that neither, but we canoffer you a prescription.
I'm like, yeah, I don't wantthat, like, is there something
else that I can work with mybody?
Uh, and not everybody's there,because a lot of people have
been conditioned to listen tothe medical system.
(22:12):
And why would they, you know,stir me in a different way where
, if they do a little bit ofresearch, you know most doctors
only get like maybe 10 hours ormaybe five hours on nutrition.
There's like no information oreducation about nutrition, but
it's all taught about chemicalsand what kind of pills go with
this, and it's like wait, wait,wait.
(22:33):
Now you know it's starting tobreak open that there's more and
more doctors that are going ina holistic aspect and
understanding what nature can dofor you and everything else.
I want to ask a personalquestion.
I have something to add in here,because I think what you're
saying is really, reallyimportant.
I believe that we are in a timeof taking radical
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responsibility.
It's not your doctor's job tokeep you healthy, and it's very
obvious Some of the things youwere just now saying.
It's very obvious that theydon't really have the background
of the training and they've notbeen given the incentive to
help you be well, and I thinkthat we're so disconnected from
mother nature that we forgetthat that's our first, that's
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our first apothecary, that's ourfirst healer.
So, yeah, I just wanted to saythat, because that was so, so
profound what you just said.
Yeah, and I'm I'm very thankfulLike people don't realize those
doctors that have switchedthings and come out of the
medical system and goingholistic, yeah, that's a big
(23:35):
visceral threat because they'reletting go of something that has
been safety and security andthey're coming out of a system
that is very oppressive and isvery conditioning that it's only
this way and it has a lot ofprofit where it does but it has
to change somewhere.
It's like something has tochange.
(23:56):
You've got to get these doctorswho are brave enough and the
people like us who are braveenough to say no, thank you, I'm
not going to do that, andthat's how the system changes.
If it's like the profits arehere, the comfort zone is here.
Those brave people who start tobecome outliers and are brave
enough to step outside of thesystem, whether it's the
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practitioner or the personindividually this is how the
change starts.
So I admire I know so manydoctors now who have started to
opt out of what they weretrained and the system that
they've been working in, and Iapplaud them for their bravery
Truly.
Yeah, I do too, because peoplewon't realize.
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You know the condition and whatthey're stepping into and
trusting within and you knowletting go of what they once
considered home and recreating anew type of home and a space
that doesn't feel the samesupport or you know the same
safe space.
Yet more and more of us arecoming out and uniting so that
(25:02):
safe space is coming out there,that you're not just one in 1000
.
Now it's becoming like five in100 that are starting to speak
up and speak on this and seeingthat, oh, wait a minute, we do
have it right, even though we'llbe barked at and be told like
no, no, no, you don't know whatyou're talking about.
And I just want to take amoment for any listener that has
(25:24):
chronic pain, that has anyillnesses, that has anything
that is life threatening.
Nowhere am I diminishing yourexperience.
If the medical system isworking for you, then you stay
with that path.
Because I know one thing forcertain whatever you really
believe in, that will supportyou.
So if you like, you know, ifyou believe in a certain thing,
(25:47):
then that is serving you, thenyou go there.
I also would like to introducethat there's other things that
are possible that are nothighlighted.
So there's a lot of things innature that you can do.
Like I just said, I was barefootwith my hands in the dirt, no
gloves.
Sometimes I had garden glovesbecause I didn't want to get
(26:07):
pricked by the roses, yet themajority I had my hands in the
dirt so I was getting thebacteria in the microbiome.
So many of us are thinkingbacteria is so bad and it's like
.
No, there's very healthybacteria and when you sterilize
too much, you're diminishing thegood biodome that you need in
your gut to support your immunesystem, which your gut, is your
(26:29):
second brain.
So when you like, you know whenwe've said like, let kids play
in dirt and be bare feet and beout in nature, there's a reason
for that so that they can be apart of the earth and they can
build up their system and theirresilience and everything else.
I want to ask for yourself yousaid that you've been doing this
(26:51):
business for 23 years, so thatmeans a lot of energy, a lot of
caretaking, a lot of supportingother people when and life
happens.
So when life has happened foryou and you have come to the
edge possibly a burnout oroverwhelm what are the herbs
(27:13):
that you go to to help replenishyour system and revitalize your
energy.
Well, you know I've got thisreally dialed in supplement
routine that that changes as itchanges as I've gone through
this different stages in my life, when I went through menopause,
that it changed and and all ofthat.
(27:33):
And you know I've reached apoint where, where I muscle test
everything I take before I takeit, I have a group of tinctures
, a group of capsule stuff andgot my teas and you know, muscle
testing is just appliedkinesiology where I I
intuitively like I love what yousaid in the beginning of this
it's like our intuition justdoesn't get nurtured enough and
it's it should be our guidinglight and I can intuitively tell
(27:57):
which ones I need.
So I really am to a point whereI don't I've got.
I've got so many habits yoga,meditation in the I.
I'm a hiker, I have this walk Ido every day.
My kids are way grown up and ofcourse I got grandkids, like I
said earlier.
So I have enough.
I have time and space to takefor myself and I I I've been
(28:22):
very strategic about dialingthese habits in.
So I you know holy basil I goback to that because it's one of
my favorites.
A pot of Arco is one of myfavorite herbal teas, those two
never get skipped.
In a day, I take, I I alwayshave a cup of Pada Acra or a cup
of holy basil.
NatNat Be (28:41):
So okay, yeah.
Jane Barlow Christensen (28:43):
Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of a bit of an
outlier as far as but then I'vebeen doing all these things for
a long time.
So it's like and I've made somestupid mistakes, I've had some
horrible like yeah, you don'tget to the age I am and not have
done some dumb stuff.
Yeah, I think it's livedexperience.
(29:03):
I think you know we have beenconditioned because of the
school system that learningmeans you know everything.
Where it's actually learningmeans you don't know when you
make mistakes and it's onlyuntil sometimes you may know
something, yet you don't knowhow to trust your intuition
that's telling you don't do this.
But you're like, oh, we'regonna bypass that, we're just
gonna do what we're gonna do.
(29:23):
And then after it's like whydidn't I listen to what was
going on internally?
Or, yeah, some of the peoplearound me that were supporting
me and saw certain things.
Yet we have to go through thoselived experiences to better
trust ourselves, to betterunderstand things.
And I love what you're saying.
It's you've been your own madscientist.
(29:44):
You understand what your bodyneeds.
Yeah, in a world that justwants one size fits all and what
will work for me and just makeit work, it's like no, you have
to be your own, like I've beenmy own mad scientist these past
10 years also of this works.
That doesn't work.
Now this isn't working anymorebecause menopause kicked in and
that my chemistry is different,so really adapting with things.
(30:07):
But there's certainfoundational things of
meditation, gardening, naturewalks being still, gardening,
nature walks, being still beingable to move and dance those are
foundational things thateverybody needs.
And when I think you have to bewilling to be an outlier, you
have to be willing to be the oddperson over here doing a crazy
(30:28):
dance and not care what anyonethinks about you.
Yeah, and, and I love, that'smy favorite, this is my favorite
thing that my parents taught usis don't do what the crowds are
doing.
If the crowds are lined up overhere to go get tickets for the
latest concert or go get thenewest iPhone or like, and
that's just a small example.
But if you're doing somethingthat no one else is doing,
(30:52):
celebrate that, because I'lltell you you'll get to the later
part of your life and the endof your life and you'll be so
grateful that you just didn'tfollow the crowds.
I don't want to do what thecrowds are doing.
If they're going there, I wantto go.
I don't want to go there, Iwant to go over here.
Yeah, um, I've been told thatI'm a little woo woo and I'm a
little out there, yeah, and thenafter, people are like I didn't
(31:15):
understand it.
But now I'm starting tounderstand a little bit more
that, yeah, and some of thechoices I made medically, um,
that scared a lot of people.
Yet I listened intuitively,internally, what was there and
it's like, how did you comethrough that like?
And it's like, well, that's notfor everybody.
I listened intuitively what wasgoing on internally and I was
(31:37):
ready to step into certainaspects.
Presently I'm going throughgrief.
I was with my friend for twoyears of her cancer journey.
She did hospice for eight days.
I was there 24-7.
She passed away in my arms.
There were certain things thatyou know.
(32:00):
I was able to assist her, likethey only gave her three months
and she lived for 18 more months, and I know it's because I was
there, helping to regulate hernervous system and introduce
different parts into herlifestyle that she didn't know
and really integrate that fear,not let it overrule you.
And so, in that it wasdifficult where I saw like we
(32:23):
were just saying as a parent,like don't do this, that's not
helping you.
Yet having to just witnesscertain things and not be
overbearing or interfering incertain things.
So, for myself right now youknow this was in November, we're
in May.
Grief, it's always with you.
What are things?
(32:45):
And I'm writing a book rightnow, which I said I was doing
for many years, but now I'm likeright in it.
So I'm up to.
I have 14 chapters written, butI'm at the 10th chapter edited.
What is something that youwould suggest for me to meet
myself?
I know how to restore andco-regulate myself with my
(33:06):
nervous system, because that'swhat I hold for other people.
That's why people love beingaround in my energy.
However, I've slowed downeverything because I understand
that I'm needing to be nurturedin this new dimension that I'm
stepping into and also, you know, honoring the body of grief.
(33:27):
You know your whole realitychanges and stepping into that
power.
So what is something as a herbthat you would introduce to me
and say that what it would help?
Yeah, and this is something thatall of us if you're a human
being, this is what this is anemotion we will always run
(33:49):
across at one point or another.
You know the emotion of grief,and especially when we lose
someone we love.
You know, my mom passed 10years ago and two years ago I
lost two nephews, one to suicideand one to a motorcycle
accident within six weeks.
So we have these moments ofdeep grief and deep sadness.
That that an interesting thingthat a lot of people don't know
(34:11):
is that the emotion of grief, itsettles in your lungs so
sometimes you might not be ableto get a big, deep breath
because you've just got theemotion of grief and sadness.
That will, but a lot of peopledon't realize that.
If you were to look at theenergetic scale and the scale of
consciousness that wasdeveloped by Dr David Hawkins
and where sadness resonates, andthen you look at someone
(34:34):
something like the body keepsthe score or the emotion code
lungs hold grief, and so my, myfavorite herb for helping to
support the lungs is osha root,and osha is just a beautiful
root that is only wild crafted.
(34:54):
You can get it.
I have it in tincture form,because I like when a tincture
goes in, it can absorb to thebloodstream quickly.
But then here's the thing youcan do your own kind of little
ceremony, just a very easy takesome OSHA tincture, get a little
bit of water and when you takeit, really, really sit with all
(35:15):
that grief that you're feeling.
Because I think if we just tryto bury it as you know and I'm
sure this is all right in yourwheelhouse of stuff you help
people with, but you can't justbury an emotion because it's
hard to look at.
You have to sit with it andjust cry your eyes out with it,
feel all those emotions, give itall the love you can and then
(35:38):
kind of let it go.
And it might take you a while,you know you might need to sit
with it for a while, but I thinka beautiful sister in in the
herbal kingdom is osha osha root.
Okay, I'll look into that.
I haven't heard about that root,so I'll look into it and yeah,
I, I intentionally shut off thepodcast and, like I said, I uh,
(36:01):
her funeral was December 27thand I took off to Barbados on
December 30th because I wantedto face the grief and feel it.
Many of us think our feelings,we don't actually feel them, we
don't feel the raw emotion of itand allow, because what happens
also with grief is that it willuncover some things that were
(36:23):
in your childhood, some emotionsthat you weren't able to
process at that time.
That allows it to process now.
So a lot of people think it'sonly this person where it's like
oh no, if you allow it, griefwill open up that tsunami of all
the things that are in yourbody to let it pass through, and
so I'm very thankful for thetools and this presence that I
(36:44):
understand, because in thesefive months like I'm even
surprised of where I am and howmy mental state is and how I'm
navigating through this, yet itjust lets me know the profound
knowing that I have within ofunderstanding that nervous
system, understanding emotionsthat we tend to, like I said,
(37:04):
think our feelings, not actuallyfeel them, and come back into
our body.
Many of us are neck up, we don'teven know how to be in our body
, and so nature allows us, likeyou know, as you said, you know,
take it slow, take a tea andall of a sudden, if you're
hearing some gurgle gurgles, itdoesn't mean that there's
something wrong.
It could be a detox that it'sallowing to finally purge out a
(37:26):
lot of things that have beenstored in your bowels and in
your stomach.
So a lot of people want theeasy way, where it's like well,
no, if you've been a lot ofthings in your body, there's
going to be some discomfort.
Yet you could ride that waveand not, you know, panic all the
time that you know this ishappening or that is happening.
(37:48):
Really understand how the bodyprocesses things and how it
functions.
Yeah, I completely agree.
I have nothing else to add tothat.
That was perfection.
So I know many listeners arelike, okay, where can I find
Jane?
So could you let the listenersknow where they can find you and
all your details?
(38:10):
Yeah, so I have a YouTubechannel that I share herbal
wisdom with.
It's just Barlow herbal, andonce a week I drop a little
educational video I want toteach people in a really simple
like this is you might recognizethis along the road, and all
that.
So every Thursday I drop a anherbal wisdom video and then on
(38:31):
Sundays I do a Sunday message oflove, and I've been doing that
for years because, as humanityhas been shifting and awakening
and all this stuff, it feelslike we need a reminder that we
are pure love, we are love, weare pure, we are a divine spark
of creator of our creator.
So, and then I my website isbarlowherbalcom and I'm on all
(38:52):
the socials at Barlow Herbal, soI'm super easy to find.
Yeah, and do you shipinternationally?
Or is it just North America,like what?
What is your shipping?
So?
we do ship to places like Canada.
There's a few countries that weare able to get in, like the UK
and Australia, new Zealand.
(39:12):
Sometimes there's delays whenit goes that far, but there are
places in Europe that we do notship because it never gets
through customs.
So, like Germany is tough,mexico Mexico is even tough, so
it'll stay on our website.
if you can ship to your country,we'd love to be able to ship
everywhere, but the world is notthat type of a place yet, so
(39:34):
okay, I just bring that so thatthe listeners you know yeah, at
any time in this conversation,if you felt a tingle or an aha
or you felt seeing that's yournervous system, that's your
limbic system, let you know thatJane has something for you.
So jump on her website, jump onher socials.
(39:54):
You see how approachable thisis our first time interacting
and the ease in the conversationand the knowledge that she has.
So you know, reach out to her.
Knowledge that she has.
So you know, reach out to her.
There's something that she hasthat will benefit your life and
that your body is signaling Likewe are all connected.
As you said, the life spark, Ifwe really look, like I always
(40:17):
continuously say, we're feelingbodies that think our nervous
systems are built off of nervoussystems and they all create
their own communication.
So something that Jane said, ifit sparked that tingle, those
shivers or an aha or an opening,reach out to her, don't delay,
don't put it off.
All her information will be inthe show notes so that she's
(40:38):
easily reachable and that youcan get what you need from her.
I want to ask is there?
As you know, things are heavybut they're light also, like I
see a lot of hope and a lot ofchange that's going on.
A lot of people are reallyanchored into the fear part.
(40:58):
Yet I don't have news and mediain my diet so I don't get
bombarded.
Like I understand what the fearmongering does and what it does
to a nervous system.
Yeah, not everybody you know isknowledgeable with that and
hasn't really tapped in to seewhat it does to them.
(41:18):
What is in your heart that youwould like to leave for a
listener right now as anintention to empower them?
Well, I think we need to firstrealize that, as human beings,
we're not designed to get all ofthe negative news that's
happening all around the world.
We're designed to hear what'shappening in our communities, in
(41:41):
our neighborhoods, with thepeople that we associate with.
And even though I do believeit's really a beautiful thing
that we're all connected viatechnology, we need to be really
, really strategic in the way welet it in.
In fact, one of my favoritethings that I've started doing
and I did this probably in themiddle of 2020, I did it for the
first time.
(42:01):
I decided I was going to stepaway from all my technology for
30 days.
I wasn't going to let anythingin Now.
I still answered emails, but Ididn't let.
I didn't do any social media.
I didn't consume any videos.
I haven't been a mainstreammedia consumer for decades, so I
and I know that there's a lotof fear mongering that goes on
there, but it's a reallyinteresting conversation to have
(42:24):
with people when you tell themI'm going to go 30 days without
consuming anything no podcasts,and I don't care what it is,
cause I love really upliftingpodcasts.
I've always got something in myear, unless I strategically say
I'm going to be, have quietstillness, and it's an
interesting thing that peoplewill tell me is that, well, I
(42:44):
need to know what's going on,and I don't, as long as I can,
even just read the headlines,because if I don't know what's
going on, I can't make the rightdecisions.
Here's what I find the mostfascinating I'll be very quick
with this is that you would besurprised how you're not left
out of the loop of anything.
If you talk to, if you gowalking with a friend, they'll
(43:04):
tell you oh, on the 28th, orwhenever it was in Spain the
28th of April, they had ablackout.
Oh, okay, well, that'sinteresting.
You might talk about it, butyou're not getting all the gory
details and all the fearmongering of what might happen
and the grid's going to go down.
They're going to shut off ourinternet on purpose.
They're going to do that,they're going to do this happen
and the grid's going to go down.
(43:25):
They're going to shut off ourinternet on purpose.
They're going to do that,they're going to do this.
And, like you, would besurprised at the brilliance and
the turn of beauty your lifetakes when you just take a 30
day detox from consuminginformation.
It's hard for some people.
It's massively hard for somepeople, but we need to realize
that this is the time right now,where the human consciousness
(43:45):
is raising.
If you have a hope left, thenyou're raising the collective
(44:08):
consciousness by just youvibrating in that energy.
So anyone listening to thisneeds to realize their own power
in raising the consciousness ofthe collective.
Thank you so much and I knowmany listeners will benefit from
that upliftment and empowermentto trust themselves and also be
(44:29):
very you know people talk aboutprotecting their energy, yet
they don't realize the thingsthat you're listening and
consuming have a big impact onyour energy.
So you're like trying to cutpeople off, not realizing you're
letting in so many strangersthrough social media and the
internet that are dysregulatingyou more than what the people
(44:53):
that would be in close contact.
So, in actuality, the personthat you got to put in check is
yourself and really question,because it's an addiction.
You know when your nervoussystem is dysregulated, it's a
negative bias and it wants to befed.
Why do people need to knowwhat's going on?
Because it feels like a senseof control that I can predict
(45:13):
what the future is.
Yet when you can allow yourselfto be in your story and listen
to intuition, like you said,you'll get the news that is
meant to reach you, not the newsthat you think you need to have
, because the world says be soinformed.
So I want to thank you so much.
This has been a delight, and Iwant to thank your father for
(45:37):
what he and your mother for whatthey instilled as a foundation,
and also your bravery of doingthe work and returning home into
the foundation that supportedyou and nurtured you and using
that grief also to ignite themomentum and the trust and and
(45:59):
leaning on those ancestors tosupport and carry you all the
way through.
So thank you for being thatlight in the world, thank you.
Thank you.
It's a every day.
I get up so excited to start myday and I don't ever plan on
retiring.
It's just I'm going to be alittle wrinkled old lady giving
you a cup of tea.
(46:19):
You know I love it, and that'swhen it's not work.
It's your life purpose, becauseit just comes naturally.
Yeah, it's true, but thank youfor a lovely conversation.
Thank you.
So please remember to be kindto yourself.
Hey, you made it all the wayhere.
I appreciate you and your time.
(46:40):
If you found value in thisconversation, please share it
out.
If there was somebody thatpopped into your mind, take
action and share it out withthem.
It possibly may not be themthat will benefit.
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It's that they know somebody that will benefit from
listening to this conversation.
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So please take action and share out
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You can find us on social media, on Facebook, Instagram and
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over on my website, come into adiscovery, call liftoneselfcom.
NatNat Be (47:20):
Until next time.
Jane Barlow Christensen (47:22):
Until next time, please remember to be
kind and gentle with yourself.
You matter Always.
Your triggers aren't the problem.
Ignoring them is.
Welcome to the Lift One Selfpodcast.
I'm your host, Nat Nat, and wedon't fake wellness here.
No fluff, no fixing, justhonest conversations about your
nervous system and what it is tobe human, Ready to stop running
from yourself.
Welcome to a safe space.
(00:22):
Let's go.
Jane Barlow Christensen (00:23):
And today we're going to get into
medicine, and maybe not themedicine you're used to.
We're going to get into plantmedicine and nature and what it
can do for you.
Where many of us are bombardedwith the pharmaceutical and
numbing pain, I want to bring aholistic and show people a
different way that we can beconnected into nature in a much
(00:46):
more profound way.
So I have a guest.
Her name is Jane BarlowChristensen I hope I said it
properly and I'm going to askher to introduce herself to me
and the listeners and let usknow a little bit about herself
before we dive in deep.
Okay, well, thank you, natanat,it's really nice to be here.
So I live in Salt Lake City,utah.
(01:09):
I grew up the second oldest of14 kids.
My dad was a medicinal botanist, so he loved everything plants,
plant medicine.
He always took us out hikingand we were identifying plants
everywhere they were andeverywhere we would go, and this
was just a normal part of thechildhood that me and my
siblings experienced.
(01:30):
And then I grew up.
I had two kids of my own.
My first career was in fitness.
I did personal training.
I used to own my own gym and Idid that for about 20 years.
And then my dad passed away forabout 20 years.
And then my dad passed away andhis business that he had had
started a really beautiful groupof really uniquely formulated
(01:50):
herbal tinctures and he had areal love of Native American
plants.
So when he passed away, hisbusiness died with him.
Because he was the scientist, hewas the PhD, and all of us,
while we, I think we tended todiscount how important
experience is, Um, it's just asimportant.
(02:14):
You know, none of us feltworthy to really step into my
dad's shoes.
So I restarted his company.
Uh, four years after he passedand he's been gone for 27 years,
so I've been going for 23.
Um, it's, I can't believe I getto carry on my dad's work and
then I have a whole line ofherbal remedies that I've
(02:34):
formulated myself.
But I've discovered that I havea really beautiful connection
to plants and it's almost likethey talk to me, um, and, and I
do get intuitive hits on what Ineed to focus on and research
and study next.
So, yeah, that's what I get todo.
it's brilliant yeah, I was just.
(02:54):
Uh, before we started recording, I told you I was in my garden
yesterday for like 10 hours nomusic, no podcasts, just being
with the dirt, listening,listening to the plants,
figuring out what needs to behere, what needs to be there,
and, just, you know, findingthat communication.
And I totally hear you whenit's like listen to what the
plants are trying to tell you,like we're feeling bodies that
(03:17):
think we go by frequency, soeverything is sending off a
frequency, and we're really told, like you know, to stay away
from our intuition, to notlisten to our gut instincts, and
some of the things that we dosee, we think that it'll be
conceived as woo-woo or that wedon't know what we're talking
about.
Yet when we go deeper into that, there's such a trust and a
(03:39):
profound depthness to what canbe possible and learn so much
more profoundly than whatacademic leans on to.
Not saying that academic is notneeded.
It's simply that if academiccould also allow intuition to
come in, what a beautifulcombination that would be of
(04:01):
that uniqueness and intelligence.
Before we start to dive in deepbecause I have some questions of
my own would you join me in amindful moment so that we can
ground ourselves.
I would love to.
That sounds amazing For thelisteners.
As you always hear, safetyfirst.
If you're driving or need yourvisual, please don't close your
(04:24):
eyes.
Yet the other prompts you canfollow and listen to, to just
take that mindful moment to slowthings down in your day.
So, jane, I'll ask you to getcomfortable in your seating and,
if it's safe to do so, you'regoing to gently close your eyes
and you're going to beginbreathing in and out through
(04:44):
your nose.
You're going to bring yourawareness to watching your
breath.
You're not going to try andcontrol your breath, you're just
going to be aware of its rhythm, allowing it to guide you into
your body there may be somesensations or feelings coming up
, that's okay.
NatNat Be (05:10):
Let them surface.
You're safe to feel.
Jane Barlow Christensen (05:16):
You're safe to let go.
Surrender the need to control.
NatNat Be (05:24):
Release the need to resist and just be.
Jane Barlow Christensen (05:25):
Be with your breath, drop deeper into
your body.
Now there may be some thoughtsor to-do lists that have popped
up.
That's okay.
Gently bring your awarenessback to your breath, creating
space between the awareness andthe thoughts and dropping deeper
(05:46):
into the body, being in thespace of presence with your
breath.
Again, more thoughts may havepopped up.
Gently bring your awarenessback to your breath, beginning
again, surrendering completelyinto the body, creating even
(06:12):
more space between the awarenessand the thoughts and allowing
yourself to just be.
Be in the breath, be in thepresence.
Now, while still staying withyour breath, at your own time
(06:39):
and at your own pace.
You're going to gently openyour eyes while staying with
your breath.
How's your heart doing, right?
So you mentioned you know yourfather had, uh, this connection
with plants in your childhood.
Did he bring you into thatcuriosity and give you the
(07:00):
experiences of understandingwhat certain plants did and what
their medicinal purposes were?
Yeah, that was just a constantpart of our childhood and it
wasn't just me, it was all of mysiblings.
So it wasn't like he sat usdown and lectured us about it.
Never, that was never part ofit.
It was all like, you know, we'dbe driving somewhere and he'd
(07:23):
want he'd see a plant next tothe road that he wanted to
identify and teach us about.
And this is the part of theplant you use.
This is a common name, this isthe Latin name, and we're going
to, we're going to harvest, youknow, harvest the flowers after
the dew dissipates off, andwe're going to take it home and
we're going to make it into atincture or like.
This was just a constant.
We had pots and herbseverywhere and, um, you know, my
(07:48):
mom was all aboard all in whenshe wasn't having babies.
She was, you know, we this iswhat we all did.
So, yeah, it was just a normalpart of our growing up.
We learned pretty quickly asteenagers that we were.
We were very different fromeverybody as far as kind of
hippie-ish, very different fromeverybody as far as kind of
hippie-ish in a not a bad way.
(08:10):
But, you know, as adults nowwe're all like thank God, we
were raised that way Cause itwas a real gift.
Yeah, is there anything in yourchildhood that you wished you
would have paid attention alittle bit more to, or you were
very present with it?
Yeah, that's a great question.
You know, we were.
We dipped in and out ofhomeschool and of course, every
person my age says this, buttimes were different back then.
(08:34):
Yeah, they were internet.
You know, I grew I was born in61.
So 60s and 70s were mychildhood and we were present,
simply because that's how themajority of humans were then.
I don't know how it would bedifferent, right, I think?
Well, I think it would bedifferent if my dad was raising
us now.
But yeah, we were very present,it was beautiful.
(08:55):
Yeah, because I you know, likeit doesn't matter where we are
with technology or no technology, there's still this counter,
you know, intuitive thing thatgoes on with parent and child,
and sometimes we find ourparents boring, or here we go
again with something else andyou don't really understand the
depthness of what they'reteaching you.
So it's like, it's nice when it, like you said, it didn't feel
(09:19):
like a lecture, it didn't feellike you were being dragged into
something, it was just part oflife that was embedded in your
everyday.
Yeah, and I think it was reallyunique in the fact that there
was.
There was not enough time forour parents to for us to feel
like our parents were trying totell us what to do because they
were so busy having and raisingso many kids that it was.
(09:42):
You know, when I turned 18 andleft the home, my parents never
told me what to do.
They never told me.
They never bailed me out offinancial mistakes.
They never.
Now, they loved me and theystayed in communication with me
and all my other siblings as westarted to leave the house.
But there was never.
We got to make a lot ofmistakes the hard way.
You know we didn't do anythingto put our life in danger, but
(10:05):
that was like a real gift that Ithink a lot of parents could
really stand to to maybe do alittle more of.
Let your kids leave or leavethe nest, and don't try to tell
them every little thing to do,even though you know what's best
for them.
You know my kids are in theirforties now and I have grandkids
and it's like so badly, evenwith my kids in their 40s, I
(10:29):
want to tell them what to dobecause, I know.
NatNat Be (10:31):
I know better.
Jane Barlow Christensen (10:33):
Yeah, it's a difficult thing as a
parent, as I you know.
What we're not told is the mostdifficult thing is witnessing
the pain of your children andnot being able to do anything
and recognizing that life willteach things and, unfortunately,
as humans we really learn withpain.
We don't learn with joy andease.
(10:53):
So as soon as something reallyhits us, we course correct
really quickly and we're like wedon't want that, whereas for
some reason, our condition, ifwe appreciate something, we can
find it difficult to really growon that abundance and ride in
that intuition and flow.
Uh, I think you know 14 childrenI that my brain hurts because I
(11:15):
have twins and I have a 30 yearold, so the twins are 15 and
then, um, the 30 year old, sothree boys.
I'm like 14.
I don't even know when youwould be able to even take a
breath for yourself, becausethat's a lot of different
personalities, a lot ofdifferent stages of development.
So, with the plants, how wasthat incorporated in your
(11:39):
everyday living?
Um, for, like you know, there'sso many ailments and illnesses
that go on with children.
So was that just embedded toknow what to use and when to use
it?
Well, I think it's multi-layered.
You know, we didn't grow upeating fast food or processed
food.
I mean, we had always had a biggarden.
(12:00):
My mom did a ton of canning, wemade all our homemade bread.
Big garden, my mom did a ton ofcanning, we made all our
homemade bread.
Um, and when, I guess whenyou're feeding that many kids,
and in that time too, I thinkthe food supply was a little bit
different.
And and then here's kind of amassive thing that I is very
controversial, but none of uswere vaccinated and none of us
have health problems.
(12:20):
So, uh, I never really thoughtit was a big deal until 2020.
Then it became a big deal.
But I do believe that it'smulti-layered in the food that
we ate and the food that wedidn't eat.
So we didn't go to the doctor alot unless there was like a
broken bone.
One of my sisters had herappendix burst when she was a
teenager and only like emergencycare did we ever go to the
(12:44):
doctor.
But we were just, um, we didhave access to medicinal herbs,
but it was so my mom cooked witha lot of stuff like basil and
rosemary and cayenne, andthere's a lot of power.
That's herbal medicine thatpeople might not realize because
they're simply cooking with itand that was just our lifestyle.
It wasn't simply cooking withit and that was just our
(13:06):
lifestyle it wasn't oh you'resick.
You need to do this, even thoughthat did happen sometimes with,
like a bad cold or when we'dget PMS as teenage girls or
whatever, there was always herbsthere, yeah.
Yeah, so for you, because it was, you know, part of your living
experience.
When did you finally recognizethat plants and nature were more
(13:28):
profoundly like your ally, andit was medicine, Like it's one
thing for your dad to teach yousomething, but for you to really
intuitively look at it in adifferent way and have a
different relationship with?
it?
Yeah, that is such a perfectquestion because almost every
one of me and all my siblingsfell off the wagon when we left
the house and got.
(13:49):
I got married when I was 18.
I had my boys when I was 20 and21.
So I was very young and I Ithought the whole world was
opened up to me.
I started eating, drinking dietCoke and eating fast food, and
you know I.
So through my twenties I startedhaving some minor health issues
like constipation, digestion.
(14:10):
You know I, sometimes I didn'tsleep that great and I and I'm
lucky, and all my siblings arethe same we all fell off the
wagon and, like you said alittle bit ago, you have to
sometimes learn these painfullessons before you go.
Oh course, correct, I need togo over here.
So, you know, by the time I was30, I had dialed it all back in
(14:30):
and you know I'm 64 now andit's like I've had perfect
health for a long, long time.
But I did go through a painfullearning curve of what I thought
I had been being deprived of.
You know, ding dongs andTwinkies were my favorite for
almost a decade and I, you knowit's a little crazy to even
(14:52):
think that I would never touchthose now.
So, yeah, you know it'srecognizing too.
Sometimes, I think, when we'rekept away from something, your
curiosity is going to wonder youknow, what does that taste like
?
And these foods are created tokeep you addicted also.
So it opens up all kinds ofdifferent sensors and chemical
(15:16):
dumps and everything else.
And I thank you for beingvulnerable, not having that
perfectionism and like, oh, it'salways been my way having that
perfectionism and like, oh, it'salways been my way.
It's like, no, I'm human tooand I had to, you know, traverse
in different ways to reallyunderstand, to understand the
profound foundation that myparents created for me and that
(15:36):
you could lean back into that.
Some people don't even havethat foundation, so they're
trying to create that as anadult.
It's true, and here's the coolthing, I think people need to
realize that they can create it,no matter where they are, what
stage or age they are, and thenyou get to build that foundation
for your posterity, yourchildren or your grandchildren,
because the foundation might behard to build Like.
(16:00):
My dad was the only one in hisfamily he's the second oldest of
seven, and he's the only one inhis family.
He's the second oldest of sevenand he's the only one who did
that, and so the rest of hisfamily worked in the family
electrical and plumbing business, except for my dad.
So he had to build thisfoundation for us, and now we've
all built it for our kids andour grandkids.
You have to start somewhere andrealize that that knowledge and
(16:28):
wisdom and foundation that youpass on is going to go on to
your posterity, which changesthe game for everyone.
NatNat Be (16:32):
Yeah.
Jane Barlow Christensen (16:34):
In a world that's so quick to numb or
suppress or outsource healing,how can someone begin to claim
their inner healer?
Like that inner healer and alsolike, especially if they're
overwhelmed and burnt out, like,how can they return back into
(16:54):
their body and start tointroduce grown food, like earth
foods, even like the spices,Because I know a lot of people
it's like an all or nothing.
And let me just switch itreally big where I've learned
small little steps start tochange so that you're not
overwhelming your whole systemand beating yourself up.
So how would you meet thatperson that is just now coming
(17:18):
to realize and wants to startmaking those shifts?
Yeah, I love this questionthere's.
My two favorite ways are first,and start introducing herbal
teas into your daily routine,because teas are delicious,
they're nutritious and they'resuper easy.
It's really easy to get apacket of peppermint, organic
(17:41):
peppermint tea, and if you sipon peppermint tea with your
evening meal or after yourevening meal, you're improving
digestion.
Peppermint is very calming, ithas a ton of really beneficial
properties and it's deliciousand you might not really realize
the power that you're getting.
And then something likedandelion root tea is really
(18:02):
nourishing for your liver andyou know, and it's if you're not
used to drinking tea or maybeyou love tea.
This is just a really good wayto step up and start, because I
agree with you, I think somepeople want to go all in and
change everything at once, andthat's some people can do that.
Very few people can do that andI think a lot of people I see
do do that maybe have just beendiagnosed with something really
(18:24):
hardcore and they're likethey've had a wake up call.
But for most of us it's likenot only are baby steps
important, but they there's areally beautiful concept called
the compound effect, thatbasically one little thing that
you do and you do start doingthat daily, it compounds in.
In fact there's a really goodbook called the compound effect
(18:44):
by Darren Hardy which isabsolutely powerful and um, not
just the herbs.
Then my second way is withspices that you add into your,
into your, your food.
And it's here's the thing withspices the fresher the better.
So if you have a bunch ofspices sitting in your cupboard
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and they've been sitting therefor a year, five years, 10 years
, they might still flavor yourfood a little bit but they're
not going to give you anymedicinal benefits because
they've all oxidized and youneed to get your spices in small
amounts, as fresh as possible,and keep them rotated.
So buy small and keep, like abasil plant in your kitchen.
(19:25):
You know everybody can go get abasil plant from the grocery
store and keep it in yourkitchen and use it.
So if someone's listening rightnow and they feel burnt out,
inflamed, a lot of people thinkweight gain is like weight,
where it's like it'sinflammation a lot of times
because your system isoverworking or they're stuck in
survival.
(19:45):
What are three herbs you wouldwant to hand them with love, and
why?
Well, number one I love forstress and almost survival is
holy basil, and holy basil is anadaptogenic herb.
It's in the it's in the mintfamily.
It tastes delicious, it's easy,easy to get and my favorite way
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is in a tea, because holy basiltea there's nothing more
nourishing.
And what an adaptogenic herbwill do is it'll.
It helps to balance bodychemistry.
It lets your body know thatyou're not running for your life
, you're not in fight or flight.
You are in fight or flight butyou're not in physical danger.
But we get so used to thosehormones being out of whack in
(20:29):
our modern world we think thatkind of stress is normal that we
don't realize that we'reconstantly in a state of chronic
stress.
So holy basil is probably mytop.
I love things like ashwagandhais really good, and for women I
think it's really important touse things like rhodiola or even
maca, and all of those I justmentioned are adaptogens.
(20:50):
Those will immediately balanceyour body chemistry.
It helps your hormones, ithelps your nervous system, it
helps your digestion, which, ifyou are in chronic stress, you
can have.
Your immune system takes a hike.
Yeah, inflammation ensues.
And, um, if you can simply sipon an herbal tea during the day.
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There's no stimulants in it,it's not going to make you know,
it doesn't do it.
Diagnosis of what caused thelesions.
Yet, you know, going internallyand really listening to what my
system needed, what naturecould provide in that, and what
are things outside of thepharmaceutical.
Because when I would ask youknow what about nutrition, they
(21:51):
were like, well, there's nothing, we can't patent that.
What about you know otherthings that, well, we can't
patent that?
What about you know otherthings that, well, we can't
patent that neither, but we canoffer you a prescription.
I'm like, yeah, I don't wantthat, like, is there something
else that I can work with mybody?
Uh, and not everybody's there,because a lot of people have
been conditioned to listen tothe medical system.
(22:12):
And why would they, you know,stir me in a different way where
, if they do a little bit ofresearch, you know most doctors
only get like maybe 10 hours ormaybe five hours on nutrition.
There's like no information oreducation about nutrition, but
it's all taught about chemicalsand what kind of pills go with
this, and it's like wait, wait,wait.
(22:33):
Now you know it's starting tobreak open that there's more and
more doctors that are going ina holistic aspect and
understanding what nature can dofor you and everything else.
I want to ask a personalquestion.
I have something to add in here,because I think what you're
saying is really, reallyimportant.
I believe that we are in a timeof taking radical
(22:54):
responsibility.
It's not your doctor's job tokeep you healthy, and it's very
obvious Some of the things youwere just now saying.
It's very obvious that theydon't really have the background
of the training and they've notbeen given the incentive to
help you be well, and I thinkthat we're so disconnected from
mother nature that we forgetthat that's our first, that's
(23:15):
our first apothecary, that's ourfirst healer.
So, yeah, I just wanted to saythat, because that was so, so
profound what you just said.
Yeah, and I'm I'm very thankfulLike people don't realize those
doctors that have switchedthings and come out of the
medical system and goingholistic, yeah, that's a big
(23:35):
visceral threat because they'reletting go of something that has
been safety and security andthey're coming out of a system
that is very oppressive and isvery conditioning that it's only
this way and it has a lot ofprofit where it does but it has
to change somewhere.
It's like something has tochange.
(23:56):
You've got to get these doctorswho are brave enough and the
people like us who are braveenough to say no, thank you, I'm
not going to do that, andthat's how the system changes.
If it's like the profits arehere, the comfort zone is here.
Those brave people who start tobecome outliers and are brave
enough to step outside of thesystem, whether it's the
(24:17):
practitioner or the personindividually this is how the
change starts.
So I admire I know so manydoctors now who have started to
opt out of what they weretrained and the system that
they've been working in, and Iapplaud them for their bravery
Truly.
Yeah, I do too, because peoplewon't realize.
(24:39):
You know the condition and whatthey're stepping into and
trusting within and you knowletting go of what they once
considered home and recreating anew type of home and a space
that doesn't feel the samesupport or you know the same
safe space.
Yet more and more of us arecoming out and uniting so that
(25:02):
safe space is coming out there,that you're not just one in 1000
.
Now it's becoming like five in100 that are starting to speak
up and speak on this and seeingthat, oh, wait a minute, we do
have it right, even though we'llbe barked at and be told like
no, no, no, you don't know whatyou're talking about.
And I just want to take amoment for any listener that has
(25:24):
chronic pain, that has anyillnesses, that has anything
that is life threatening.
Nowhere am I diminishing yourexperience.
If the medical system isworking for you, then you stay
with that path.
Because I know one thing forcertain whatever you really
believe in, that will supportyou.
So if you like, you know, ifyou believe in a certain thing,
(25:47):
then that is serving you, thenyou go there.
I also would like to introducethat there's other things that
are possible that are nothighlighted.
So there's a lot of things innature that you can do.
Like I just said, I was barefootwith my hands in the dirt, no
gloves.
Sometimes I had garden glovesbecause I didn't want to get
(26:07):
pricked by the roses, yet themajority I had my hands in the
dirt so I was getting thebacteria in the microbiome.
So many of us are thinkingbacteria is so bad and it's like
.
No, there's very healthybacteria and when you sterilize
too much, you're diminishing thegood biodome that you need in
your gut to support your immunesystem, which your gut, is your
(26:29):
second brain.
So when you like, you know whenwe've said like, let kids play
in dirt and be bare feet and beout in nature, there's a reason
for that so that they can be apart of the earth and they can
build up their system and theirresilience and everything else.
I want to ask for yourself yousaid that you've been doing this
(26:51):
business for 23 years, so thatmeans a lot of energy, a lot of
caretaking, a lot of supportingother people when and life
happens.
So when life has happened foryou and you have come to the
edge possibly a burnout oroverwhelm what are the herbs
(27:13):
that you go to to help replenishyour system and revitalize your
energy.
Well, you know I've got thisreally dialed in supplement
routine that that changes as itchanges as I've gone through
this different stages in my life, when I went through menopause,
that it changed and and all ofthat.
(27:33):
And you know I've reached apoint where, where I muscle test
everything I take before I takeit, I have a group of tinctures
, a group of capsule stuff andgot my teas and you know, muscle
testing is just appliedkinesiology where I I
intuitively like I love what yousaid in the beginning of this
it's like our intuition justdoesn't get nurtured enough and
it's it should be our guidinglight and I can intuitively tell
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which ones I need.
So I really am to a point whereI don't I've got.
I've got so many habits yoga,meditation in the I.
I'm a hiker, I have this walk Ido every day.
My kids are way grown up and ofcourse I got grandkids, like I
said earlier.
So I have enough.
I have time and space to takefor myself and I I I've been
(28:22):
very strategic about dialingthese habits in.
So I you know holy basil I goback to that because it's one of
my favorites.
A pot of Arco is one of myfavorite herbal teas, those two
never get skipped.
In a day, I take, I I alwayshave a cup of Pada Acra or a cup
of holy basil.
NatNat Be (28:41):
So okay, yeah.
Jane Barlow Christensen (28:43):
Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of a bit of an
outlier as far as but then I'vebeen doing all these things for
a long time.
So it's like and I've made somestupid mistakes, I've had some
horrible like yeah, you don'tget to the age I am and not have
done some dumb stuff.
Yeah, I think it's livedexperience.
(29:03):
I think you know we have beenconditioned because of the
school system that learningmeans you know everything.
Where it's actually learningmeans you don't know when you
make mistakes and it's onlyuntil sometimes you may know
something, yet you don't knowhow to trust your intuition
that's telling you don't do this.
But you're like, oh, we'regonna bypass that, we're just
gonna do what we're gonna do.
(29:23):
And then after it's like whydidn't I listen to what was
going on internally?
Or, yeah, some of the peoplearound me that were supporting
me and saw certain things.
Yet we have to go through thoselived experiences to better
trust ourselves, to betterunderstand things.
And I love what you're saying.
It's you've been your own madscientist.
(29:44):
You understand what your bodyneeds.
Yeah, in a world that justwants one size fits all and what
will work for me and just makeit work, it's like no, you have
to be your own, like I've beenmy own mad scientist these past
10 years also of this works.
That doesn't work.
Now this isn't working anymorebecause menopause kicked in and
that my chemistry is different,so really adapting with things.
(30:07):
But there's certainfoundational things of
meditation, gardening, naturewalks being still, gardening,
nature walks, being still beingable to move and dance those are
foundational things thateverybody needs.
And when I think you have to bewilling to be an outlier, you
have to be willing to be the oddperson over here doing a crazy
(30:28):
dance and not care what anyonethinks about you.
Yeah, and, and I love, that'smy favorite, this is my favorite
thing that my parents taught usis don't do what the crowds are
doing.
If the crowds are lined up overhere to go get tickets for the
latest concert or go get thenewest iPhone or like, and
that's just a small example.
But if you're doing somethingthat no one else is doing,
(30:52):
celebrate that, because I'lltell you you'll get to the later
part of your life and the endof your life and you'll be so
grateful that you just didn'tfollow the crowds.
I don't want to do what thecrowds are doing.
If they're going there, I wantto go.
I don't want to go there, Iwant to go over here.
Yeah, um, I've been told thatI'm a little woo woo and I'm a
little out there, yeah, and thenafter, people are like I didn't
(31:15):
understand it.
But now I'm starting tounderstand a little bit more
that, yeah, and some of thechoices I made medically, um,
that scared a lot of people.
Yet I listened intuitively,internally, what was there and
it's like, how did you comethrough that like?
And it's like, well, that's notfor everybody.
I listened intuitively what wasgoing on internally and I was
(31:37):
ready to step into certainaspects.
Presently I'm going throughgrief.
I was with my friend for twoyears of her cancer journey.
She did hospice for eight days.
I was there 24-7.
She passed away in my arms.
There were certain things thatyou know.
(32:00):
I was able to assist her, likethey only gave her three months
and she lived for 18 more months, and I know it's because I was
there, helping to regulate hernervous system and introduce
different parts into herlifestyle that she didn't know
and really integrate that fear,not let it overrule you.
And so, in that it wasdifficult where I saw like we
(32:23):
were just saying as a parent,like don't do this, that's not
helping you.
Yet having to just witnesscertain things and not be
overbearing or interfering incertain things.
So, for myself right now youknow this was in November, we're
in May.
Grief, it's always with you.
What are things?
(32:45):
And I'm writing a book rightnow, which I said I was doing
for many years, but now I'm likeright in it.
So I'm up to.
I have 14 chapters written, butI'm at the 10th chapter edited.
What is something that youwould suggest for me to meet
myself?
I know how to restore andco-regulate myself with my
(33:06):
nervous system, because that'swhat I hold for other people.
That's why people love beingaround in my energy.
However, I've slowed downeverything because I understand
that I'm needing to be nurturedin this new dimension that I'm
stepping into and also, you know, honoring the body of grief.
(33:27):
You know your whole realitychanges and stepping into that
power.
So what is something as a herbthat you would introduce to me
and say that what it would help?
Yeah, and this is something thatall of us if you're a human
being, this is what this is anemotion we will always run
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across at one point or another.
You know the emotion of grief,and especially when we lose
someone we love.
You know, my mom passed 10years ago and two years ago I
lost two nephews, one to suicideand one to a motorcycle
accident within six weeks.
So we have these moments ofdeep grief and deep sadness.
That that an interesting thingthat a lot of people don't know
(34:11):
is that the emotion of grief, itsettles in your lungs so
sometimes you might not be ableto get a big, deep breath
because you've just got theemotion of grief and sadness.
That will, but a lot of peopledon't realize that.
If you were to look at theenergetic scale and the scale of
consciousness that wasdeveloped by Dr David Hawkins
and where sadness resonates, andthen you look at someone
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something like the body keepsthe score or the emotion code
lungs hold grief, and so my, myfavorite herb for helping to
support the lungs is osha root,and osha is just a beautiful
root that is only wild crafted.
(34:54):
You can get it.
I have it in tincture form,because I like when a tincture
goes in, it can absorb to thebloodstream quickly.
But then here's the thing youcan do your own kind of little
ceremony, just a very easy takesome OSHA tincture, get a little
bit of water and when you takeit, really, really sit with all
(35:15):
that grief that you're feeling.
Because I think if we just tryto bury it as you know and I'm
sure this is all right in yourwheelhouse of stuff you help
people with, but you can't justbury an emotion because it's
hard to look at.
You have to sit with it andjust cry your eyes out with it,
feel all those emotions, give itall the love you can and then
(35:38):
kind of let it go.
And it might take you a while,you know you might need to sit
with it for a while, but I thinka beautiful sister in in the
herbal kingdom is osha osha root.
Okay, I'll look into that.
I haven't heard about that root,so I'll look into it and yeah,
I, I intentionally shut off thepodcast and, like I said, I uh,
(36:01):
her funeral was December 27thand I took off to Barbados on
December 30th because I wantedto face the grief and feel it.
Many of us think our feelings,we don't actually feel them, we
don't feel the raw emotion of itand allow, because what happens
also with grief is that it willuncover some things that were
(36:23):
in your childhood, some emotionsthat you weren't able to
process at that time.
That allows it to process now.
So a lot of people think it'sonly this person where it's like
oh no, if you allow it, griefwill open up that tsunami of all
the things that are in yourbody to let it pass through, and
so I'm very thankful for thetools and this presence that I
(36:44):
understand, because in thesefive months like I'm even
surprised of where I am and howmy mental state is and how I'm
navigating through this, yet itjust lets me know the profound
knowing that I have within ofunderstanding that nervous
system, understanding emotionsthat we tend to, like I said,
(37:04):
think our feelings, not actuallyfeel them, and come back into
our body.
Many of us are neck up, we don'teven know how to be in our body
, and so nature allows us, likeyou know, as you said, you know,
take it slow, take a tea andall of a sudden, if you're
hearing some gurgle gurgles, itdoesn't mean that there's
something wrong.
It could be a detox that it'sallowing to finally purge out a
(37:26):
lot of things that have beenstored in your bowels and in
your stomach.
So a lot of people want theeasy way, where it's like well,
no, if you've been a lot ofthings in your body, there's
going to be some discomfort.
Yet you could ride that waveand not, you know, panic all the
time that you know this ishappening or that is happening.
(37:48):
Really understand how the bodyprocesses things and how it
functions.
Yeah, I completely agree.
I have nothing else to add tothat.
That was perfection.
So I know many listeners arelike, okay, where can I find
Jane?
So could you let the listenersknow where they can find you and
all your details?
(38:10):
Yeah, so I have a YouTubechannel that I share herbal
wisdom with.
It's just Barlow herbal, andonce a week I drop a little
educational video I want toteach people in a really simple
like this is you might recognizethis along the road, and all
that.
So every Thursday I drop a anherbal wisdom video and then on
(38:31):
Sundays I do a Sunday message oflove, and I've been doing that
for years because, as humanityhas been shifting and awakening
and all this stuff, it feelslike we need a reminder that we
are pure love, we are love, weare pure, we are a divine spark
of creator of our creator.
So, and then I my website isbarlowherbalcom and I'm on all
(38:52):
the socials at Barlow Herbal, soI'm super easy to find.
Yeah, and do you shipinternationally?
Or is it just North America,like what?
What is your shipping?
So?
we do ship to places like Canada.
There's a few countries that weare able to get in, like the UK
and Australia, new Zealand.
(39:12):
Sometimes there's delays whenit goes that far, but there are
places in Europe that we do notship because it never gets
through customs.
So, like Germany is tough,mexico Mexico is even tough, so
it'll stay on our website.
if you can ship to your country,we'd love to be able to ship
everywhere, but the world is notthat type of a place yet, so
(39:34):
okay, I just bring that so thatthe listeners you know yeah, at
any time in this conversation,if you felt a tingle or an aha
or you felt seeing that's yournervous system, that's your
limbic system, let you know thatJane has something for you.
So jump on her website, jump onher socials.
(39:54):
You see how approachable thisis our first time interacting
and the ease in the conversationand the knowledge that she has.
So you know, reach out to her.
Knowledge that she has.
So you know, reach out to her.
There's something that she hasthat will benefit your life and
that your body is signaling Likewe are all connected.
As you said, the life spark, Ifwe really look, like I always
(40:17):
continuously say, we're feelingbodies that think our nervous
systems are built off of nervoussystems and they all create
their own communication.
So something that Jane said, ifit sparked that tingle, those
shivers or an aha or an opening,reach out to her, don't delay,
don't put it off.
All her information will be inthe show notes so that she's
(40:38):
easily reachable and that youcan get what you need from her.
I want to ask is there?
As you know, things are heavybut they're light also, like I
see a lot of hope and a lot ofchange that's going on.
A lot of people are reallyanchored into the fear part.
(40:58):
Yet I don't have news and mediain my diet so I don't get
bombarded.
Like I understand what the fearmongering does and what it does
to a nervous system.
Yeah, not everybody you know isknowledgeable with that and
hasn't really tapped in to seewhat it does to them.
(41:18):
What is in your heart that youwould like to leave for a
listener right now as anintention to empower them?
Well, I think we need to firstrealize that, as human beings,
we're not designed to get all ofthe negative news that's
happening all around the world.
We're designed to hear what'shappening in our communities, in
(41:41):
our neighborhoods, with thepeople that we associate with.
And even though I do believeit's really a beautiful thing
that we're all connected viatechnology, we need to be really
, really strategic in the way welet it in.
In fact, one of my favoritethings that I've started doing
and I did this probably in themiddle of 2020, I did it for the
first time.
(42:01):
I decided I was going to stepaway from all my technology for
30 days.
I wasn't going to let anythingin Now.
I still answered emails, but Ididn't let.
I didn't do any social media.
I didn't consume any videos.
I haven't been a mainstreammedia consumer for decades, so I
and I know that there's a lotof fear mongering that goes on
there, but it's a reallyinteresting conversation to have
(42:24):
with people when you tell themI'm going to go 30 days without
consuming anything no podcasts,and I don't care what it is,
cause I love really upliftingpodcasts.
I've always got something in myear, unless I strategically say
I'm going to be, have quietstillness, and it's an
interesting thing that peoplewill tell me is that, well, I
(42:44):
need to know what's going on,and I don't, as long as I can,
even just read the headlines,because if I don't know what's
going on, I can't make the rightdecisions.
Here's what I find the mostfascinating I'll be very quick
with this is that you would besurprised how you're not left
out of the loop of anything.
If you talk to, if you gowalking with a friend, they'll
(43:04):
tell you oh, on the 28th, orwhenever it was in Spain the
28th of April, they had ablackout.
Oh, okay, well, that'sinteresting.
You might talk about it, butyou're not getting all the gory
details and all the fearmongering of what might happen
and the grid's going to go down.
They're going to shut off ourinternet on purpose.
They're going to do that,they're going to do this happen
and the grid's going to go down.
(43:25):
They're going to shut off ourinternet on purpose.
They're going to do that,they're going to do this.
And, like you, would besurprised at the brilliance and
the turn of beauty your lifetakes when you just take a 30
day detox from consuminginformation.
It's hard for some people.
It's massively hard for somepeople, but we need to realize
that this is the time right now,where the human consciousness
(43:45):
is raising.
If you have a hope left, thenyou're raising the collective
(44:08):
consciousness by just youvibrating in that energy.
So anyone listening to thisneeds to realize their own power
in raising the consciousness ofthe collective.
Thank you so much and I knowmany listeners will benefit from
that upliftment and empowermentto trust themselves and also be
(44:29):
very you know people talk aboutprotecting their energy, yet
they don't realize the thingsthat you're listening and
consuming have a big impact onyour energy.
So you're like trying to cutpeople off, not realizing you're
letting in so many strangersthrough social media and the
internet that are dysregulatingyou more than what the people
(44:53):
that would be in close contact.
So, in actuality, the personthat you got to put in check is
yourself and really question,because it's an addiction.
You know when your nervoussystem is dysregulated, it's a
negative bias and it wants to befed.
Why do people need to knowwhat's going on?
Because it feels like a senseof control that I can predict
(45:13):
what the future is.
Yet when you can allow yourselfto be in your story and listen
to intuition, like you said,you'll get the news that is
meant to reach you, not the newsthat you think you need to have
, because the world says be soinformed.
So I want to thank you so much.
This has been a delight, and Iwant to thank your father for
(45:37):
what he and your mother for whatthey instilled as a foundation,
and also your bravery of doingthe work and returning home into
the foundation that supportedyou and nurtured you and using
that grief also to ignite themomentum and the trust and and
(45:59):
leaning on those ancestors tosupport and carry you all the
way through.
So thank you for being thatlight in the world, thank you.
Thank you.
It's a every day.
I get up so excited to start myday and I don't ever plan on
retiring.
It's just I'm going to be alittle wrinkled old lady giving
you a cup of tea.
(46:19):
You know I love it, and that'swhen it's not work.
It's your life purpose, becauseit just comes naturally.
Yeah, it's true, but thank youfor a lovely conversation.
Thank you.
So please remember to be kindto yourself.
Hey, you made it all the wayhere.
I appreciate you and your time.
(46:40):
If you found value in thisconversation, please share it
out.
If there was somebody thatpopped into your mind, take
action and share it out withthem.
It possibly may not be themthat will benefit.
NatNat Be (46:52):
It's that they know somebody that will benefit from
listening to this conversation.
Jane Barlow Christensen (46:58):
So please take action and share out
the podcast.
You can find us on social media, on Facebook, Instagram and
TikTok under Lift Oneself, andif you want to inquire about the
work that I do and the servicesthat I provide to people, come
over on my website, come into adiscovery, call liftoneselfcom.
NatNat Be (47:20):
Until next time.
Jane Barlow Christensen (47:22):
Until next time, please remember to be
kind and gentle with yourself.
You matter Always.
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