October 15, 2025 • 71 mins
Julio Molina returns to share his powerful testimony of overcoming severe anxiety and panic attacks through discovering his identity in Christ and understanding the true nature of trials in a believer's life.
• Experiencing a severe anxiety crisis that led to multiple ER visits and dramatic weight loss
• Discovering that financial stress and career pressure were masking deeper identity issues
• Learning to ask God questions instead of questioning God during trials
• Finding freedom through understanding that trials aren't punishment but invitation
• Seeing the book of Job in a new light—Job's suffering came because God spoke highly of him
• Breaking mental strongholds by recognizing that trials aren't because of personal failure
• Shifting focus from "why is this happening?" to "what do you want me to show me, Lord?"
• Embracing the truth that God has no evil in Him and doesn't cause our suffering
• Experiencing God's presence most powerfully in the midst of our darkest moments
If you're currently struggling, remember these three truths: your situation has nothing to do with your past mistakes, God has no evil in Him, and the key is to ask, "God, what do you want me to know in this moment?"
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Hi everyone, I want to welcomeyou back to another great
episode of Light Up yourBusiness podcast.
I have a special guest, julioMolina, with me again today.
He was on a few episodes agoand in that conversation we were
talking about the Lord and weboth started talking after the
(00:43):
podcast that we wanted to comeback and talk to you guys about
struggle and how we've kind ofovercome that, and so today I
want to welcome Julio.
How are you today, julio?
Julio Molina (00:52):
I'm doing well.
Thanks for having me back.
Tammy Hershberger (00:55):
Yeah, absolutely.
We're glad to have you back.
So I guess my first questionright off the bat is can you
take us back to a time in yourlife where you were really
struggling and how you overcamethat?
Julio Molina (01:07):
yeah, um, you know it's interesting, when I was um
, you know, considering this orthinking about this question, um
, because I'm like do we do we,do we, do we ever start
struggling?
That's true.
Now, you know, I say that withhumor, but and I use the word
(01:33):
lightly, but I think that youknow the relationship with
trials and tribulations haschanged over time.
So, but, as you know, to answeryour question, um, as I was,
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you know, inquiring of the Lord,I'm like which, which season do
you want me to talk about?
Right, which one do you want meto bring up?
Because, though I laugh aboutthat, there's been, um,
certainly a lot of trials andtribulations that I've
experienced since I've met theLord, and the one that bears the
most witness to share witheveryone on the podcast.
Today is about almost threeyears ago.
(02:18):
I went into the gym, just to youknow, to work out with a friend
.
I was experiencing a lot ofstress at the time, a lot of
financial stress.
I had a sales director positionat the time as well, at a
high-end luxury store dealershipand just decided to go to the
gym, right, blow up some steam,kind of thing, and, you know, we
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worked out for, you know Iguess a couple hours, hours,
went into the hot tub and thenwe went into the sauna and went
into the sauna, like I went in,got out, went back in, and the
second time I went back in likemy whole nervous system just
went haywire and from there itspiraled into.
(03:06):
You know, a er visit, like twoin the morning, three in the
morning, um, because I washaving experiencing an anxiety
and panic attack from from thatday for probably a good year,
consistently.
Um, I was experiencing anxietyand panic attacks way more
(03:31):
intense than I've ever had in mylife before.
So that was one of the mostrecent struggling times that I
can think of.
And then we can dive intodetails, if you like yeah, let's
talk about that.
Tammy Hershberger (03:48):
So that was the first experience you've had
with anxiety and panic attacksno, that was actually second
second okay, but that was likealmost the worst.
It sounds like yeah, it was.
Julio Molina (04:00):
Um, you know the thing about anxiety is, you know
it?
it it screams lies so loud thatthe biggest one is you think you
are just going to die yeah,yeah like it is like literally,
um so, but I had, I had neverexperienced like in a manifest
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that manifested this time aroundin palpitations in my heart,
and I've never experienced thatbefore.
So I've experienced anxietyyears and years ago, but not
with palpitations of the heart.
So that was really scary.
It was weird, scary, it wasweird.
(04:47):
But you know, thankfully I, youknow I have a healthy heart and
I went through all the medicaltests because, again, anxiety
likes to lie.
So you just, you know, I'm likeI just want to make sure to
triple check.
So I'm all good there.
But yeah, it was very, veryintense.
Tammy Hershberger (05:00):
And I relate with you a little bit.
I'm doing pretty good right now, but during the worst of my
mental crisis I'm going to callit my burnout I was having so
much anxiety coming back and Iagree, it's like it's so
interesting because your mind'stelling you you're freaking out,
you're gonna like you said,you're gonna die, you're gonna
whatever, and you have to almostshift your mindset off of it to
get it to stop.
I mean, one time I was on aboat tour and we were just
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getting ready to board the boatand I just started.
I'm not scared of boats, but Ijust started panicking, Like,
and I literally had to get offmy seat and walk around to look
at stuff to distract myself.
And then I was fine, but I'mlike, why would I die on the
boat?
I mean, it's fine, it's a big,open boat but it is a liar, that
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is for sure.
Julio Molina (05:53):
So tell me, on your experience, did you, what
was the emotions, what was goingon in your life that do you
think caused that?
Or was there a catalyst forthat?
Or yeah, um, you know,obviously you don't know this
then, right, but, um, you knowhindsight 2020 as you, as you,
you know, look back, um, youknow what it was is.
You know, I was going through afinancial hardship and I was
trying to figure out how to fixthat problem, and the only way
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that I knew how to fix it was to, you know, make money.
And I know it sounds silly, butit's like the way I only knew
how to do this is to go and makemoney.
So I went into thedealershiphip, back into the
dealership business, and thistime around, it was in in a
leadership role, right, as asales director.
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So you know, the the autoindustry can be very taxing and
very stressful not for everyone,right, but my experience and
from what I've witnessed, it canbe very taxing on a person.
It can be very, very stressful.
Um, so you know, not only thatI have the pressure of having to
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perform as a sales director,but also the pressure of like I
still have all this financialstress right and it all just,
you know, collided and thenthat's when that happened.
Now that's like my physical,human response.
(07:19):
But within the last three yearsI've done and when I say I, the
Holy Spirit has walked methrough so much inner man work
that it wasn't the stress thatwas the problem, it was other
things going on internally thatmanifested itself and, you know,
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through financial hardship orwhatever the case might be are
you willing to dig into thatmore?
Tammy Hershberger (07:48):
can we unpack that a little bit more of what
the internal struggle was?
Julio Molina (07:53):
yeah, absolutely, and I'll say this I am, I am
very uncomfortable, um, rightnow, talking about this, and I'm
just being transparent becausebut I'm willing, because I sense
that the Lord is wanting me tobe honest and authentic about
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some of these, some of theseseasons that I've went through.
And you know, I, it's not I, II like to encourage, right, so I
like to just be like positiveand talk about the good.
So sometimes having to go backtends to expose me, but that's
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the lie of the enemy that haskept me from sharing the
testimony that God has given me,because the reality is is that
I'm not exposing myself.
I'm exposing what God has donein my life, and so go ahead.
Tammy Hershberger (08:55):
Well, I was just going to say and to
encourage you a little bit withthat is that testimony that
you're, you know that you'rescared to share, basically
because it's going to kind ofout you or show that you're not
a perfect human being, right,that is a testimony that could
massively help someone elselistening or that will
eventually hear this or has afriend who's struggling that
they can share it with.
And so I think the devil, youknow, uses those fears and the
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anxiety and the stress to likebut if you say that you're going
to look less than right andreally it builds you up because
it's showing that you are notperfect, you are not, you know
this person that never makes amistake and that makes you human
Right.
Julio Molina (09:31):
Yeah, so, and I appreciate that.
So you know, I guess, what wasreally going on.
So you know I'm having theseextreme panic attacks, anxiety,
you know I'm.
I think I went into the ER inthat year like a total of, I
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want to say maybe three or fourtimes, right, I think maybe
close to six, like noexaggeration.
And you know I did everything Icould, you know, physically,
right, I went into a localnutritionist, wanted to make
sure that it wasn't anythinggoing on in my physical body,
any toxins, like I'm just doingeverything that I physically or
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mentally know how to try to getmy body and my mind to slow down
.
But what I found out in theprocess of, you know, going
through the healing process, ifyou will, from anxiety to none,
right, because I can't tell youthe last, like I can't tell you,
hey, on January 31st, at youknow, 2.20 in the afternoon,
(10:36):
mountain time, I got healed fromanxiety.
I just, I can't remember thelast time I had it and I can't
remember the last time I had itand I can't remember last time
it stopped.
But what I will say is this isthat I and it was an identity
situation that God was invitingme into, so I didn't, I didn't
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know who I was and because ofthat, you know, I kept trying to
search and seek and find, andyou know all these different
things, um, and that's what keptleading into all the stress,
right, when you don't know whoyou are, you're just, you know,
trying to pick and choose.
(11:24):
Should I take this job?
Should I start this business?
You know, you're just, you know, trying to pick and choose.
Should I take this job?
Should I start this business?
You know, you're just, you'relost.
Tammy Hershberger (11:30):
So yeah, yeah , and so tell me about identity.
I think of a scripture 2Corinthians 5, 17,.
It says, therefore, if anyoneis in Christ, he is a new
creation.
The old has passed away, behold, the new has come, and I think,
because you were obviouslysaved at this point, right.
Julio Molina (11:48):
Yeah, yeah, you know, we're talking 16, 17 years
, yeah.
Tammy Hershberger (11:53):
Yeah, and I think sometimes we get, you know
, we find Jesus and we get saved.
And then you know, even inschool my Bible school, I mean
right now we're hammering in onthe identity of Christ and who
we are and the authority that wehave.
And because I think, you know,usually when we come to the Lord
in repentance, we're so I meannot everybody, but a lot of us
are pretty broken or strugglingor hurting or sad or whatever,
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and we just are beat down.
And then we hear about thisJesus who's like, okay, this guy
, you know, takes our sins awayand we become clean and all
these things.
But then we don't know what todo.
We're like, hey, but we stillfeel yucky, we still, you know,
we don't give it over sometimesto the Lord and we keep
reminding ourselves who we arein the past and what we've done
and we can't be forgiven and allthese things.
And then we start questioningit and then the devil gets in
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there and John 1, 12 says but toall who did receive him, who
believed in his name, he gavethe right to become children of
God.
And so it's really good forpeople listening to dig into who
are you as a child of God.
What does that mean?
What is your righteousness?
What does it say aboutforgiveness?
And when we step in that poweris when things change.
But it sounds like you were notthere.
(12:54):
You were still just kind ofbecause for you I'm guessing,
like you said, the financialswere masking the inner work that
you needed to do.
For me, my breakdown of likeburnout is what I call it.
But really when I got intotherapy I have a Christian
therapist that I go to andthere's so much from my past
with abuse and neglect, and thenlike my self-worth and all this
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stuff, and I started to realizethrough that inner work, really
with the Lord's help, that likeI thought I was burned out
because of all the work I wasdoing, which that wasn't helping
because I wasn't resting.
But at the same time it's likealmost 42 years of stuff started
just coming out and I didn'teven know what it was.
I was just broken.
And then you start to dig inand realize that like I wrapped
my self-worth with my businessesand who I am and I didn't
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realize who I was as a child ofGod.
And that's when you start torealize like, okay, this is not
the surface issue, it'ssomething much deeper, would you
agree?
Julio Molina (13:48):
Yeah, 100%.
And you know, and as I hear youtalk, right like, my last
answer was a little scattered.
So I am again and this is a newinvitation that God has invited
me into right to share thisside of the testimony.
But as I listen to you, right,I'm quietly praying and asking
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the Holy Spirit for help to makeit sure that I communicate what
he allowed me to go through.
And what I believe is this is Idon't know why it happened and,
quite honestly, I don't knowwhat happened, but I do know
what happened, if that makessense, right, like, and what I
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mean by that is I don't I couldsit here and and digest and be
like whoa, it happened because Ididn't know who I was, or it
happened because I was reallystressful, stressed out about
money, or it happened because of, you know, drug addiction, or
it happened because of a, youknow, since I was a kid, or
whatever.
But what's important is whathappened in the midst of that
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trial and tribulation, and whathappened was what god said,
right, right and the, the, the,how important and crucial the
Holy Spirit was, that loudwhisper in my heart in the
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middle of the most intense panicattacks and anxiety attacks.
I mean, I remember going on awalk once and when all this was
going on and you know you'rejust doing it, I'm doing
anything I can to just slow itdown.
Right, walks, you know anything.
And so I went on a walk andjust the Holy Spirit just asked
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me a question from the fatherand he just said why are you so
afraid to die?
And as I'm on the walk and I'mlike, well, I'm looking around
and I'm going, I'm searching myheart, I'm going, well, god, I
think I think it's because, like, if I leave, I leave.
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I haven't done.
You know, I haven't set myfamily up.
You know I haven't doneanything for my kids.
Like, you know, I'm going toleave them, they're still going
to be in debt.
Like I haven't, I guess Ihaven't set them up, so I can't
leave.
Like, okay, well then, if I gaveyou an opportunity to live,
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what would you do with it?
Right?
So then then I answered him inin a very honest question and I
wrote these things down.
And that is the reason, andthat is my reason, for living
now, right, so, um, and they'revery specific things that are
backed up by scripture, right,like one, I was like well, lord,
(16:50):
you know, if you gave me anopportunity to live long, I
would.
I would, you know, love my wife.
Yeah, that's, that's biblical.
Love your wife, as christ lovedthe church.
Yes, I would, I would.
I would make sure that my kidsknow you.
Yes, that's biblical.
Like train your kids in theways of the Lord so when they
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get older they don't depart fromme.
Yes, that's biblical.
And then I'm like then I would,you know, take care of my
parents as much as I could, aslong as they live.
Okay, yeah, that's biblical.
Like honor thy mother and thyfather, right?
And then all things will gowell with you, depending on the
translation that you read.
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And then the last one, I waslike, and then I'm like then I
think I would do something foryour kingdom, but I just don't
know what, right.
And he was like I just heardthis very clearly Like that's
the problem you don't know,you're lost, right?
So then I?
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Then, for me, it was like okay,then, then then what?
Like you know, help me find aplace.
So then, for me, I'm like okay,then then the prayer should be
help me find a place in yourkingdom, right?
What do I do?
And that led me into thisidentity, discovery of who am I?
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Not your typical biblical thingsthat we hear from pulpits.
Right, like you know, you're amasterpiece.
You're wonderfully andfearfully made and you know he
knew you before you were in yourmother's womb and all these
things are good.
I'm not knocking them, but youneed to be able to hear for you
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from god.
What does he specifically sayabout you?
So I just wanted to highlightthat because it just bear
witness in my heart to be likeit's not as the why is not as
important as what and whathappened was is everything that
God said to me and the thingsthat the Holy Spirit taught me.
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That's like exciting to mestill to this day.
Tammy Hershberger (19:07):
I mean, I have to say one thing, though,
because I think you, or at leastwere a believer and you were
smart enough to to find out whatis going on, because sometimes
I think that pause that, thatwhatever you want to call it,
that lapse that, whatever thatbrought you to your knees, kind
of right like to the panicattack stage of like something
has to get your attention, and alot of people are too busy and
not spending time in the lord ornot even knowing who the lord
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is, and they don't even know.
They just think, oh, I havepanic attacks, I'm gonna have
these the rest of my life, right, or I have anxiety, or I have
depression or whatever, and Ithink it's.
You have to give yourself alittle credit, though, that you
knew enough in your spirit todig into like what is this?
This is not normal, it's notsomething I have to live with,
right, would you?
Would you agree on that?
Julio Molina (19:46):
yeah, 100.
And you know, again, as I, as Ilooked at some of the questions
that you sent me, you know, oneof the the questions was like,
you know, it was really the thebest way I can answer it like
how did you, you know, how didyou know how to kind of deal
with this or whatever the casemight be, and it's like that
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because of what I learned goingto church and the church that I
was going to at the time was bigon, you know, declaring and
speaking the word over you andyou know, getting in the word,
getting in the word.
So when that, you know, thevery first time I experienced
anxiety you're talking, you know, 12 plus years ago, the very
(20:30):
first time I experienced it Iremember the pastor that I had
at the time had mentionedsomething along the lines of
from the pulpit that him and hiswife were going through a um,
believing God for a miracle, andhe literally took the Bible,
the physical Bible, and stood ontop of the Bible and said, god,
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I am standing on your word, andwas having a prayer session
with God and was saying I amstanding on your word and
believe in that you're going towork all things for our good and
your glory.
So the first time I experiencedit, I literally took the Bible,
went into my bathroom, took myshoes off and I said Lord.
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I literally said I'm sorry ifI'm, you know, disrespecting you
, but I'm going to do what Iheard my pastor say because I
just believe that this will work.
At this time I literally Istood on the Bible and I said
I'm standing on your word, I'mstanding on Psalm 91, that I
will not fear, like you knowwhat I mean.
So it was, it was the seeds.
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This is why it's so important.
My point is is this that Ibelieve you know the Holy Spirit
wanted me to share is that thisis why it's so important to go
to church.
One of the reasons, becausethere are seeds that are going
to be planted in you for when atime of trial and tribulation
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does come, does come, and, asyou know, we've lived long
enough and are aware of manytestimonies in the world, even
by you know, faithful Christianleaders who've been serving the
Lord for 45 plus years, that atrial and tribulation will come.
But when it does come, you willreact based off of what you
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have heard heard, because thatseed that's been planted in you
will bear fruit right.
Tammy Hershberger (22:30):
So yes, yeah, I think I agree with you.
So you have to have your heartfertile.
It needs to be, you know, nothard pack ground.
So you need to have your heartopen to hearing the word of God.
You need to get that seed sownin you so it can start to sprout
correct, and then you need to,like you said, get in the word.
You need to have your heartopen to hearing the word of God.
You need to get that seed sownin you so it can start to sprout
correct, and then you need to,like you said, get in the word.
You need to have your mindright.
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You need to renew your mind tonot what the world says, but
what does the Bible say.
I thought of a couple ofscriptures while you're talking.
One is Isaiah 41, 10.
So do not fear, for I am withyou.
Do not be dismayed, for I'myour God.
I will strengthen you and helpyou.
I uphold you with my righteoushand.
Another one I like is Psalms 34, 17.
The righteous cry out and theLord hears them.
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He delivers them from all theirtroubles.
The Lord is close to thebrokenhearted and saves those
who are crushed in spirit.
But if you don't spend time inthe word yourself, reading your
Bible, getting into church,listening to sermons.
You won't know the scripturesto stand on, like you said, in
those trials.
Right, there's scriptures aboutfinancials, there's scriptures
about God's love.
There's so many scriptures inthere that you can stand on and
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use to fight against the fear,the worry, the stress.
You know what the devil istelling you, but if you don't
know those, you can't use them.
Julio Molina (23:49):
Yeah, and you know , what I'm just hearing in my
heart right now as we talk isthis um, when I answered back to
the lord, when he asked me onthe walk, why are you so afraid
to die?
And I gave him biblical answersin my heart.
Yeah, that's a good answer.
Right, I had peace about thoseanswers that I gave them because
they were biblical answers.
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But what I'm hearing in myheart right now is I thought it
was up to me and it's like Godwill grant me a long life Not so
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I can check those things,though they're biblical, but God
will grant me a long lifebecause he wants me to
experience him here on earth foras long as possible.
And some of these things that Iworried about, like honoring my
parents, taking care of them,because I, you know, I'm mexican
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and in our normal mexicancultures, you take care of your
parents when you get older,especially, you know, especially
us, being coming from, you knowmexico and being an immigrant
family, like it's what you do.
Especially one of the children,or you know the, you know one
of the boys, has experiencedsome type of success.
Like you take care of yourparents, like literally, like
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physically and financially, thewhole works, like you move them
in with you, like the whole nine.
So I was so worried about thatthat God was like I'm their
provider, like I will take careof them.
So now, three years later andwe talked a little bit about
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this in the first episode thatthe amount of you know wages
that my dad is earning with ourwindow washing business has
allowed him to take care of someof the things in their home and
in their life that I was soworried about making it happen
for them.
Tammy Hershberger (25:54):
Yeah, he loves them just as much as you.
I mean, you hit it on the headwith God as their provider.
I'm going to add this reallyquickly I had an experience with
a bar.
Now we were kind of slow.
It was slow for a while and Iwas starting to worry about
money a little bit, and becausethe machine the bigger it gets,
the more money you need.
And there was a point where Iwas like, man, I don't want to
lay people off because I havethe best workers and I don't
know what I'm supposed to do.
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And I literally heard the Lordsay to me that you are not their
provider, I am.
And so when I got that pressureoff of myself right even in my
marriage I'm like my husband'smy provider, but not really.
The lord is like we.
He will find work to do andhe'll do what the lord tells him
, but the lord is the one whoprovides.
He provides the customers, heprovides the income, the
paychecks, whatever.
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That is huge, julio, that yougot that yeah, and so again,
it's the what's important.
Julio Molina (26:45):
Is that what happened?
You know, I, I, I could youknow through professional help
and a lot of research and dataor just a lot of you know, even
just seeking the Lord, I, I'msure I could get insight as to
why these extreme anxiety andpanic attacks happen.
And, like visits to the er andeverything that was going, I
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literally lost like 35 pounds inlike 30 days.
Like it was so severe.
I was like 15 pounds lighterthan I was in my high school
years, like I was, I was notdoing at all and but what
happened is this again, thisidentity discovery of this is
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who you are, but this is who Iam, and then that allows me to
live peacefully.
Right, and I think I mentionedthis in the last episode that we
had together, or it might havebeen in our conversation
afterwards.
That, I think, probably ledinto the second invitation,
which I appreciate, is that oneof the things that the Holy
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Spirit showed me in the book ofJob about a month ago and
spending about three, four weeksin the book, is that the enemy
has two tactics, two strategieswhen trials and tribulations
come your way, and that is todistort your identity and to
distort the identity of God inyour life.
So when this situation happenedthree years ago and I'm
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experiencing what I just sharedI first started to, of course,
doubt God, right, why me?
Same response that Job had.
Like, literally, I didn't knowthis right three years ago,
because I think I read the bookof Job once when I first got
saved.
And then I just didn't go thisright three years ago because I
think I read the book of Jobonce when I first got saved and
then I just didn't go back to itagain because it's a pretty
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crazy book, right.
But in the last couple ofmonths and what the Holy Spirit
has shown me now I have a newperspective on the book of Job.
Now I'm not afraid to read thebook of Job, as if, like, I am
expecting trouble.
No, no, no, it is what the HolySpirit showed me again is about
that identity.
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When I was going through what Iwas going through, I started to
doubt God.
I'm like, why me?
Right.
And then, second, I started tothen beat myself up.
Well, it's because of you, it'sbecause you can't sit still,
it's because you can't figureout what you want in life, it's
because you know you keep makingbad financial decisions, right,
and you see, job Job did thisIn the first trial.
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He blames God and says God gives, it giveth and God taketh.
Well, that's not true.
Half of it is true.
He gives, but he doesn't takeaway.
But the good thing about thatis that the scripture says that
he did not sin against God whenhe blamed God.
So then, this allows us to, itgives us freedom, it gives us
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peace.
Excuse me, to know that thehuman nature, whenever we come
against a trial, tribulation,whenever we come against trouble
or we're struggling in life,and if one of our responses is
we start blaming God or doubtinghim, he's not offended.
Is my point.
He understands.
This is a human nature response.
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The second response of Job hethen now starts blaming himself
of Job.
He then now starts blaminghimself.
He even says things like hewishes that the day he was
conceived would be erased.
What he even says, that he, ina different translation, that he
hated his life.
And I literally experiencedboth of those things.
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But the beauty of it was thisNow you know hindsight, 2020,
literally just almost a coupleof months ago, tammy, I just got
this freedom in my heart fromyou know what it seemed like a
two and a half, almost a four,three year season, and it was
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this three year season and itwas this.
I started reading the book ofJob, in chapter 32, about a
couple of months ago.
I was just led there.
I hesitated a little bitbecause, again, I told you about
the perspective I had of thebook.
I'm like, oh man, like is Godtrying to, the Holy Spirit
trying to show me that droughtwas coming?
So I'm in the book and from 32to 35, we see a fourth man in
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the book and it was a young manand the Bible says that he
waited patiently for Job and histhree friends to be done,
talking and basically trying togive a conclusion or opinion as
to why Job went through what hewent through and why God did
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what he did.
Quote unquote.
Now, when you read this, you go,wow, like, first of all, you
respect the guy because he says,hey, you guys are older than me
, so I needed to wait.
So you know you respect the guyand you go well, okay, than me,
so I needed to wait.
So you know you respect the guyand you go well, okay, that's,
you know you're being honorable.
And then you listen to hisresponse and you go, well,
that's a very well craftedsummary of everything that was
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said.
Like that makes sense.
Like in in a court of law,you'd be like, oh yeah, like you
know, uh, he won the case right.
Like, yeah, you beat him in theargument.
But when I read that, the HolySpirit, when I got done reading
his response, the Holy Spiritjust said to me, yeah, but
that's not actually whathappened.
And he reminded me of chapterone in the book of Job.
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And what happened?
Was this a joke?
And what happened was thisSatan comes before the presence
of God with members of theheavenly court, which we talked
about this in the phone callthat after our podcast, our
first podcast episode.
I'm like you know, I have somequestions as to why these
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members of the heavenly courtwill let this guy come with.
You know, I'm like they know Ihave some questions as to why
these members of the heavenlycourt will let this guy come
with.
You know, they should have justclosed the door and let them
outside the van.
Yeah, but he comes before thepresence of the Lord and the
Bible says that God asked Satanwhat have you been up to?
What are you doing, dependingon the translation that you read
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?
And Satan replies back to himI've been basically roaming
around and seeing what's goingon on the earth, which is
biblical, because he's looking,you know, he's roaming around
like a lion, looking who he maydevour, and then God brings up
Job.
Brings up Job and tells him whoJob is, right, he's the finest
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man in all the earth, and allthese different things.
And then Satan replies back tohim and says well, the only
reason why he's faithful isbecause everything he does
prospers.
A different translation says hecan't lose.
And then after that, god says,quote unquote green light.
Right, have Adam, but you can'tharm him.
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Here's why I'm sharing this withyou and with those that are
listening, because what happenedwas in that it was very simple.
God said something nice aboutJob to Satan.
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That was the whole genesis ofthe tribulation.
That was all.
However, it had nothing to dowith who Job was.
He was the finest man on theearth.
I mean, the guy was blameless.
Why?
Why would god decide to attackhim if he was doing evil, if
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that was a character, a part ofgod's character, which is not
true?
Tammy Hershberger (34:50):
yeah, he wouldn't.
Julio Molina (34:51):
And then you know what I mean, like this guy's
blameless.
And so, in me reading this andand having communion with the
holy spirit, I'm like youcouldn't depict like somebody
else, you know like a, like likesomebody who's sinning and just
killing folks.
That would have been moreconvenient, right, um, so
anyways.
But, um, he said something niceabout Job to Satan.
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So it wasn't because anythingJob had done or who he was.
So we see Job's response thesecond time about himself.
It has nothing to do with you.
The evil or the trials andtribulations you're experiencing
is not because of you, becauseGod thought highly of Job.
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And then watch this and thensecond it had nothing to do with
God's character, because Godonly gives, he's only good.
So then, what's the purpose?
The purpose is, as I'm talkingto you right now, quite honestly
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I haven't gotten this far inthe revelation, but as I'm
talking to you, when you readthe book of Job, job actually
starts talking back to God andto his friends and says
something along the lines oflike you know bad, good and bad
come from you know from god, orif they don't, then where does
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it come from?
Again, I'm condensing thetranslations.
Right, I'm not quoting exactly,but but it's in the book.
Here's my point, when I readthat I'm going wait a minute,
wait a minute.
You had never experienced evilin your life, so you didn't even
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know where evil could come from, because you didn't even know
what it was.
Does that make sense?
Like he had never experiencedplanting a seed and not growing?
Mm-hmm, he had neverexperienced, you know, starting
a business and not flourishing.
Like because the Bible says hecan't lose.
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But here's the other thing Ibelieve that bears witness to
share with everyone.
That was what I'm grateful for.
I believe that Joe did not knowGod.
He, he, he might have knownabout him, but he did not know
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God.
You're saying in the sense thathe didn't know the true
character of God.
Tammy Hershberger (37:41):
Well, is that what you're saying?
Julio Molina (37:44):
You don't, trials and tribulations will allow you
to be in such communion with theFather that it gives you an
opportunity to really know him.
Like somebody can quote youscripture until you're blue in
the face.
But I am talking about likeunknowing, you know.
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It's kind of like in yourmarriage or in friends, right.
Like you don't know who yourfriends are until you go through
a hard time and you're like, oh, you know, this guy was gonna
punch me in the face but thenthis guy took the punch from me.
Oh, like I can trust you.
Yeah, so I, he, he, he didn'tknow god.
Like, really, really know god.
If you, if you knew god, youwould have never said out of
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your mouth he give it and hetakes, takes it, he taken.
Yeah, you would have never saidthat.
Because if, if I, you know, ifI would to spend, you know, five
, ten years with you, tammy,like you know, on a day-to-day
basis, and if somebody wouldhave come up to me and say, you
know, tammy's really stingy, andI'd say, no, she's not, she's a
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giver, right?
So why am I sharing all this?
Because I spent a lot of timeand, I think, a lot of the
turmoil and stress and anxietythat was happening while anxiety
is happening.
Which is crazy, is that I wastrying to figure out why, and
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the moment I embraced the trialand tribulation, it allowed me
to focus on the what, and whatwas happening was.
It was an invitation from Godto allow me to know who he was
and who I am.
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And that's a very it's easiersaid than done.
When you are and for those whoare listening, if you've
experienced, you know, anxiety,depression, panic attacks, any
of those things I it's very easyfor me to say that now, because
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I'm healed, right, I'm pastthat, but what I can say is that
hopefully that is that givesyou hope, right, that it is so
possible to get to that pointwhere there's this invitation
from the Lord to know who he isand to know who you are, and
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when you stop spending time onthe why, oh man, like because
the enemy wants to keep youthere.
Why does it happen?
Is it you?
Is it God?
Is it you?
Is it God?
Is it you?
It's none of those things.
It's just simply that God saidsomething nice to Satan about
you and he permitted it, but theoutcome would be is that you
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are going to know God in such away, friend, like you've never
had before.
Tammy Hershberger (40:57):
I really think too, and some of that, if
I can interject really quickly,is you know, sometimes I think,
like you said, you don't want toget focused on the why, because
I mean even my own strugglesI've experienced.
It's like I I saying I try tofigure it out for myself, right,
like I need to get another loan, I need to just do this, I need
to do that, and I tried to fixit, instead of turning myself to
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the Lord and say, okay, andthat's what happened to me in my
bottom.
I think that's why it got sobad for me, cause I, I just kept
trying to do it myself, findanother way, cause I'm a fixer,
and instead I had to give it tohim.
And that's when my freedom andmy help started to come, because
we as people, try to do itourselves, and when you give it
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to the lord, right he take,he'll step in, he will take care
of you, he will help you.
Because we get ourselves in ourown messes and then sometimes we
run to the lord like, please,daddy, fix it.
But it's like you maybe got tofix yourself, get yourself to
the point of, like, reallytrusting the lord and really
opening yourself up to what godhas, because there's been things
he's told me that I was like Idon't really want to do that, um
(42:00):
, but I did it and it worked andit made my life so much more
peaceful and calm.
Does that resonate?
Julio Molina (42:07):
yeah, 100, and you know what's.
What's so interesting is thatwhat I thought was is not what
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was.
Tammy Hershberger (42:30):
Yeah, it wasn't just money.
Julio Molina (42:33):
Yeah, and Job, I'm telling you, the book of Job
literally will expose to you thehuman experience of an
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encounter with a trial andtribulation in your life, with
trouble.
There's a time where a friendresponds back to Job and says if
you get your character right,then God will restore you.
That sounds good, really good,but it's half true.
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And when you listen, if youlisten carefully and you read
carefully, you kind of see thatthere's sarcasm in the way that
this friend is saying it, whichyou also have to be careful,
very, very careful about andtake inventory of the friends
that you're around.
Because, if half of it is true.
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Yes, god will restore folks.
Yes, but the first one if youget your character right.
Wait a minute, this is in likechapter 10 or 12, somewhere in
there.
In chapter one, the Bible saysthat he was blameless, he had
perfect character, he was a manof integrity.
Why would you tell your friendthat?
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That sounds like the enemyplanting a seed of doubt.
So I, in what you just said.
Here's what, going back to the,what the holy spirit allowed me
to.
He taught me to ask godquestions instead of questioning
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him.
Whenever trials or tribulationsor any trouble or any
inconvenience or anyuncomfortable situations or
seasons come in my life likethis, if I let you say, I
hypothetically get a flat tire,the most common response of a
human being and I'm done it.
Why, why me?
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Why right now?
I gotta go to work, I gotta gopick up my kid or I gotta go do
this.
Why me?
Why right, like really god,that questioning god, asking god
questions, would look like thesame scenario.
God, what do you want me to seein this moment?
What do you want me to know?
What do you want me to hear?
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Who do you want me to help?
What do you want me to do,because you permitted this, so
that that that gentleinterruption or your divine plan
for my life, because you, youwill, you, you did this with
jesus you will turn everythingfor our good in your glory.
The enemy had no idea that thatgod had jesus in his mind.
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No idea, no, no idea.
He's like oh shoot, oh, Ithought I won, but oh man, no, I
guess I was conquered.
Oh, that failed.
So in that scenario, right likeI would encourage those who are
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listening that if you'veexperienced any trials or
tribulations in your life,friend, a health diagnosis, the
C word, cancer you knowsomething in your heart or in
your brain or in your mind, oryou know anxiety or panic
attacks or your business orwhatever you would classify as
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trouble or trials andtribulations or struggle.
I would just invite you, friend, to ask God questions, not
question him.
And that invitation that theHoly Spirit invited me into,
that I'm extending to you today,will allow you to see the what
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God wants you to see.
And I'll give you a verypractical testimony to this
Because I work in the carbusiness.
I understand that you knowkeeping your cars in good shape
and having a car having anaccident on the car faax, you
know, could drop the value ofthe vehicle.
So I always kept my cars ingood shape and keep them clean
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and whatever you know, if youwant to trade them in and you
know you have, you're actuallytelling them the truth.
Like, hey, I baby this thing,it's been kept clean, like you
can put it in your showroom soand you're able to get more
money for it because it'svaluable and it's true.
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Well, last year I ended upgetting I got rear-ended in one
of my cars.
So I get rear-ended at like 30,35 miles an hour.
Now I'm being honest with you.
Yeah, my response was likereally, god, that's literally
what I said.
But then I said what do you?
I put this into practice, whatdo you want me to see?
What do you want me to know?
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What do you want me to do inthis moment?
And he, he, he then speaks tomy heart and says I need you to
tell the guy who hit you that heneeds to go back to church,
like very specifically.
So I, we're talking, we'vealready exchanged licenses and
information and all that, so I'mwaiting to hear from the Holy
spirit.
A few minutes go by and then Ihear this.
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So then I go up to him and Isay hey, man, I just want to let
you know.
You know, I'm not mad at you,but I just really feel in my
heart that I'm supposed to tellyou.
You're supposed to go back tochurch.
He's like oh man, I know I justgot out of jail.
That guy didn't even have adriver's license.
I just got out of jail.
My grandma's been telling me Ineed to go back to church.
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My mom's been telling me I needto go back to church.
So asking God more questionsrather than questioning him
allows you to come on somebody.
Thank you, holy Spirit Allowsyou to have an experience the
encounter that God wants you,the collision that he wants to
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actually happen.
It would allow you toexperience that.
So, rather than me being likequestioning God and being upset
about my car, again, it's goingto get fixed.
Yeah, there's going to be sometemporary inconvenience, like
I'm probably not going to have acar for a week until it's in
the shop, but they're going togive me a rental.
Like I'm probably going to haveto pay a deductible.
Like there's all theseinconveniences, right, but if I
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focused on blaming God or askingGod or questioning Him, it
completely takes my mind off ofwait a minute.
In the middle of that trial andtribulation, of the
inconvenience, there was anencounter that God wanted to
happen and the response fromthat guy who hit me, talking
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back to me and saying, yes, mygrandma and my mom have been
telling me to go back to church.
That feeling, that feeling itis you.
I can't even express in wordshow it compares to the feeling
of why that I get hit in theinconvenience of it.
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The joy of that, ofencountering God in a trial and
tribulation, is so worth itcompared to anything else, right
?
Tammy Hershberger (50:14):
So hopefully that encourages somebody on the
podcast to ask God morequestions rather than
questioning him and embracingand knowing that he permitted it
and if he permitted it, there'san invitation to an encounter
with him and the fact that youwere obedient and you actually
talked to that gentleman,because you could have just been
hyped up, worked up, annoyed,you know, hurrying along, got to
get to work or whatever,instead you actually took the
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time to talk with him.
And so obedience is huge too, Ithink, because we get so busy
and we don't listen, andwhatever happened to get you in
that situation.
I'm just glad that you tookthat time.
You listened to the Holy Spirit.
Julio Molina (50:50):
Yeah, and I think you know well I don't think I'm
sorry I I believe thatchristianity has taken a turn
from certain pulpits, certainpulpits to communicate to the
people that accepting jesus inyour heart and walking with god
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and following jesus and living aquote-unquote christ, following
lifellowing life, that it's notgoing to be all flowers and
butterflies and paradise, and Ithink a lot of times people
didn't want to say that becauseit gave room or a voice to evil
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or a, you know, an evilexpectation in your life.
But here's what I believe myheart would be for folks based
off of, because, by the way,this anxiety and panic attack
season that I had in my lifeit's not just anxiety, there is
a mental warfare that you can'teven explain like it is so
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intense.
But what is important is, can Ipass on to people what the holy
spirit taught me of how to gothrough it when it happened?
And, friend, trials andtribulations will happen.
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I wish I promised you part ofthe reason why I was so upset
when I experienced it wasbecause I which, by the way, I'm
kind of a perfectionist bynature, so I, I want, I wanted
life to be perfect in myexpectation of life caused a
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very, very uncomfortablefrustration in my spiritual life
.
So I'll what I want to do, inthe name of Jesus right, is to
just pass on to you the how toget through that.
That's what's important.
What do you do when you get adiagnosis?
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What do you do when your childgets murdered for an unjustly
you know reason, like some ofthese really, really serious
trials and tribulationencounters, don't be afraid to
know that they may come.
Be encouraged that the HolySpirit will encounter you there
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so you can get through it.
And the communion you will have, the relationship you will have
with the Lord when you gothrough it, and the communion
you will have, the relationshipyou will have with the Lord when
you go through it.
While you're going through it,it's going to be like nothing
you've ever experienced before.
So when people ask why do yougo to church or why do you
believe in God, it's not becauseyou go to church.
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It's not even because of whatyou've seen God do.
It's because of what youencountered personally when
nobody was around, right?
So hopefully those that arelistening are encouraged to know
that there is a way of how togo through when you're in the
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middle of that trial andtribulation.
Tammy Hershberger (54:17):
Yeah, I want to really touch, or quickly
touch on the strongholds of themind man.
We've been digging into that alot in school lately and there's
a scripture, 2 Corinthians 10,3,.
It says for though we walk inthe flesh, we are not waging war
according to the flesh, for theweapons of our warfare are not
of flesh, but have divine powerto destroy strongholds.
We destroy arguments and everylofty opinion raised against the
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knowledge of God and take everythought captive to obey Christ.
It's because the devil, theonly power he has, is deception,
right, that's the only thing hecan do.
He is not good at anything else.
And so when he gets in yourhead and he just starts to,
first thing he does is he kills,steals and destroys, right,
it's what the Bible says.
And so if you think about that,he's going to get in your head
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and he's going to tell you allthe lies that he has.
He's going to go against theword of God.
He wants you to start doubtingGod.
You know, I am not saved, I amnot forgiven, I am not redeemed,
I am not all these things thatthe Lord says I am, because then
you start to get those thoughtsgoing.
And once you get those thoughtsgoing.
That is a slippery slope, right, because that's how I mean
people.
I know that I've regressed backinto drinking.
It's like they've toldthemselves so many times that
they're they're an addict andthey're never going to change
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and I'm going to have this therest of my life.
Now you may have thattemptation.
Your flesh is there.
Your flesh does not change.
But the more you dig into theword they were talking about
that recently, how our fleshdoes not change we as believers
think that, like, once we havethe Lord, the flesh is going to
be so easy.
We're not going to want thesethings.
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The flesh doesn't change.
The flesh still wants the badstuff.
But your spirit and what you'veput in your heart and those
seeds, they take over.
And, trust me, this is going toprobably sound stupid to you and
I.
This is going to probably soundstupid to you, and I don't even
know if you know who I'mtalking about.
But when I was younger I likedACDC a lot and I remember
talking to this Christian friendof mine and he was like I would
never go to that concert and Iwas like, uh, you're crazy, I
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would always go.
I would never imagine myselfnot going, and not that they're
necessarily a bad band.
The mute though I like, themusic, the lyrics are terrible.
Um, now, at this day and age,just through time and spending
time with the Lord and gettingto know the Lord and changing
myself, I would not go because Idon't want to confess some of
the stuff that they're saying.
And so it's like a naturalprogression of like the more you
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get God in you, the more yourlife will change, the less you
want that fleshly stuff.
I mean, have you everexperienced that?
Julio Molina (56:43):
that.
Oh man, um, yeah, I mean, oneof the biggest strongholds,
mental struggles I had clearlywas that I thought it was all up
to me, that I thought, andbecause of that you think that
you're the problem.
So you know, again there's afriend of Job, responds back to
Job and says you know, if you dothis and if you do that, then
you'll be right.
And it's like when I read that,I'm like Holy Spirit, I've been
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believing that lie for so manyyears.
I've been trying to fix myselfsince I accepted Jesus so I can
place myself in a position wherehe can bless me.
That's literally been one ofthe biggest like you know,
strongholds in my life Like it'snot and the whole time God's
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like.
You know I'm just Using this asan example the whole time God's
like, but you're blameless andI'm like, and I've been, you
know, for 15-16 years.
I believed a lie Since Iaccepted Jesus, that I needed to
fix Myself so that I can beplaced in a position where God
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can bless me.
And this last season that Iwent through in my life, the
trial and tribulation and theway that it manifested itself
and the way that God permittedit, allowed me by the grace of
the living God allowed me to befree from that lie and that
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answer came two months ago.
Now it got better day by day,yeah, but there wasn't full,
full peace internally, full,full, full peace internally.
And to have that, that peacenow, that I am encouraged now to
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know that what I went throughis because God said something
nice about me to Satan.
And I am curious to know, on adaily basis, what do you say
about me?
What did you say?
Not the common things I hearfrom the pulpit, but what do you
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say I want to hear from yourmouth Something that's not even
in scripture.
If it could right which we knowthat he won't talk outside of
his word.
But yeah, I agree with you, um,110, those, those mental
strongholds are.
So again, friend, I just man,like I literally want to just go
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until I.
I have no more breath, tammyand I, and I know, you know, we
are crunched on time yeah but Ijust but here's what my desire
is.
I literally just want to justkeep talking or preaching and
just communicating to peoplethat there's a beauty in the
triumvirate, and I'm trying todo my best to listen to the Holy
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Spirit to say what can I giveto my brothers and sisters?
Because I know what it was liketo be in that dark, Like I
literally seen the light, likemy heart rate got like up to
like 32 beats per minute, Likethere was, there was I, and I
know what that's like to bethere.
(01:00:09):
So I just want to tell folks,like I just want to tell them
it's possible to get out, butthat's so cliche.
I want to actually tell you howthe Holy Spirit taught me to
get out and how to go through.
Tammy Hershberger (01:00:26):
Will you explain that real quick, because
I know we are close on timehere.
Can you just give them a couplethings that like maybe a new
believer or someone that'sobviously struggling?
Like what would you say to yourbest friend right now if they
said hey, julio, I'm reallystruggling here.
What would your little advicebe to them I shouldn't even say
little, that demeans it what isthat powerful advice that you
would give to them to say okay,this is what you need to do.
Julio Molina (01:00:49):
First thing I would tell them is this I have
good news for you.
One it has nothing to do withyou, which means it has nothing
to do with what you have done inthe past that you think has put
you in this situation.
(01:01:10):
It has nothing to do with you.
Second, god does not have anounce of evil in him.
As a matter of fact, he doesn'tthink about evil.
Like it doesn't make sense tohim.
Here's what I mean.
(01:01:33):
A few weeks back we went to goshoot a music video and with a
friend and the studio we went toit's a music music, it's a
video shooting studio.
Before we went there it was himand his wife.
His wife directed the video andwritten the script and
everything like that.
She said to us hey, before wego in there, I just want to let
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you know it's a secular place.
They do film pornography inthere.
So if this has been a stumblingblock for you or any of you, I
just need you to let me know inadvance so that I can either a
have them block it, if they can,b just not go in those rooms,
or you, you know, whatever.
So when we went in there, Ijust had this realization.
(01:02:19):
This revelation just hit me.
I'm like, wait a minute, peopleare still sinning today, and
here's what that means.
I have been so much in thespirit that I literally was like
oblivious to sin.
(01:02:40):
So when I say I, I'm not givingmyself credit.
It's been the holy spirit doingthe work.
But here's why I use thatexample god, it doesn't even
compute to god Like evil, likewhat he couldn't do it, he
couldn't even think it.
(01:03:01):
So it's not you and it's notGod.
Third, because it's ask, askgod, god.
What do you want me to know inthis moment?
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That's it.
That's, that's, honestly, whatI would say if there was a
friend of mine to answer yourquestion.
If there was a friend of minestruggling with life, what do I
do?
Just know it's not you, know,it's not God, and just ask him
questions.
What do you want me to know?
What do you want me to see?
Tammy Hershberger (01:03:50):
To add a scripture to that last line,
because then I think you justneed to be patient and listen to
what the Lord's telling you andbe open.
And sometimes it's you knowsomething.
Maybe you don't want to hear oryou're like, oh, I don't really
want to do that, but maybe youneed to listen.
So it's Psalms 27, 13.
I remain confident of this Iwill see the goodness of the
Lord in the land of the living.
Wait for the Lord, be strongand take heart and wait for the
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Lord.
Hulu, do you have anything elseto say before we wrap this up?
Julio Molina (01:04:17):
I mean, I know we could talk forever but you got a
business to run.
Yeah well, you know, what Iwould say is you know, first,
you know, thank you for allowingme the opportunity to come back
and talk about this topic.
You know, second, what I wouldsay is, to anybody listening, I
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would ask that you would commenton the Facebook post of Light
Up your Business podcast, on theplatforms where you can comment
and just share with us what didyou hear God say to you in this
(01:05:01):
episode?
You know, what did he say toyou in the situation that you're
currently in, or possiblyanything that you've gone
through in the past?
And you know, I guess the lastthing is, if is is, if I, you
know, if you could allow me just, you know, a few, a few minutes
to just pray for for those whoare listening, you know, I would
(01:05:24):
appreciate that.
Tammy Hershberger (01:05:25):
Absolutely the floor is yours.
Julio Molina (01:05:37):
Holy Spirit, there's so much I would like to
say, but what's more importanthere is what you want your
people to hear, what you want tospeak to them.
And, holy Spirit, you were withme in that very dark time that
I am learning how to articulateand communicate to your people.
(01:05:59):
Heavenly Father, I'm asking,I'm petitioning you, sir, that
you would provide everythingthat you provided to me
personally that allowed me to gothrough the season, that
allowed me to hear, that allowedme to listen.
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I thank you for the gift of theHoly Spirit and if there's been
any, if there are any brothersand sisters listening who have
not received that baptism orthat baptism of the Holy Spirit,
heavenly Father, I'm askingthat, through a divine
appointment, that they woulddesire to be filled with the
(01:06:44):
Holy Spirit.
Because it is you, holy Spirit.
It is because of you andbecause of you that I am where I
am today.
That I am where I am today.
You were that loud whisper in myheart that allowed me to go
through that anxiety, thosepanic attacks, the low heartbeat
(01:07:04):
, the palpitations of the heart.
It was your whisper, it was yourwords.
It was literally you picking meup from underneath my arms, if
you will, and saying get up andlet's do it one more time.
So I pray and I hope thatpeople would desire you through
listening to this podcast,because it is because of you,
(01:07:27):
friend, that I'm able toexperience the freedom and the
peace that I have now.
And I just ask, last but notleast, heavenly Father, that you
would continue to bless Tammyin this podcast.
I thank you for continuing toguide her steps.
I thank you for placing her inthe right place at the right
time, with the right peopledoing and saying the right
things.
Thank you for divineappointments.
(01:07:47):
Thank you for allowing her tobe courageous and to share
what's in her heart and what'sin her mind when she comes and
encounters different people inBible school or any encounter,
and continue to bless herbusiness In Jesus' name, amen
and amen, amen.
Tammy Hershberger (01:08:05):
Julio, it's such a pleasure having you on.
I just love talking to you andI believe strongly.
I'm praying for you and yourbusiness, your family.
I think there's amazing thingson the line for you.
I love that you're puttingvideos out.
I'm seeing them on Facebook.
I'm sharing them.
Do you want to tell people howto get a hold of you on Facebook
or to find you or any otherplatforms you have?
Julio Molina (01:08:23):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.
So Facebook is Julio Molina.
You know it's my personalFacebook.
And then it would be WindowWashing, rochester, minnesota.
All one word on Facebook forWindow Washing business we just
(01:08:44):
launched a.
We just opened our Instagrampage for Window Washing R-N.
As in mom N, as in Nancy,you'll look forward to more
content there and that contentis going to be very it's going
to be a journey type contentwhere I'm going to allow people
to see what God is doing in ourbusiness and how he's building
(01:09:05):
it.
And then, yeah, so that's howthey can get a hold of me and I
post videos on.
You know, when I'm led to andwhen I feel like I got a word
that that his people would wantto hear or need to hear, um,
then I'll post it on there.
Tammy Hershberger (01:09:22):
Yeah, I mean we need to be the ones, we need
to be the light of the world,right For those that are in the
dark.
And I appreciate you steppingup.
I mean it's it's hard whenyou're growing a business and
yet you're still willing to helpothers, and that's how God's
going to bless you, I believe,because you've got a heart for
people.
Julio Molina (01:09:38):
Yeah, I appreciate that and yeah, it's fun.
Tammy Hershberger (01:09:41):
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Hi everyone, I want to welcomeyou back to another great
episode of Light Up yourBusiness podcast.
I have a special guest, julioMolina, with me again today.
He was on a few episodes agoand in that conversation we were
talking about the Lord and weboth started talking after the
(00:43):
podcast that we wanted to comeback and talk to you guys about
struggle and how we've kind ofovercome that, and so today I
want to welcome Julio.
How are you today, julio?
Julio Molina (00:52):
I'm doing well.
Thanks for having me back.
Tammy Hershberger (00:55):
Yeah, absolutely.
We're glad to have you back.
So I guess my first questionright off the bat is can you
take us back to a time in yourlife where you were really
struggling and how you overcamethat?
Julio Molina (01:07):
yeah, um, you know it's interesting, when I was um
, you know, considering this orthinking about this question, um
, because I'm like do we do we,do we, do we ever start
struggling?
That's true.
Now, you know, I say that withhumor, but and I use the word
(01:33):
lightly, but I think that youknow the relationship with
trials and tribulations haschanged over time.
So, but, as you know, to answeryour question, um, as I was,
(01:54):
you know, inquiring of the Lord,I'm like which, which season do
you want me to talk about?
Right, which one do you want meto bring up?
Because, though I laugh aboutthat, there's been, um,
certainly a lot of trials andtribulations that I've
experienced since I've met theLord, and the one that bears the
most witness to share witheveryone on the podcast.
Today is about almost threeyears ago.
(02:18):
I went into the gym, just to youknow, to work out with a friend
.
I was experiencing a lot ofstress at the time, a lot of
financial stress.
I had a sales director positionat the time as well, at a
high-end luxury store dealershipand just decided to go to the
gym, right, blow up some steam,kind of thing, and, you know, we
(02:42):
worked out for, you know Iguess a couple hours, hours,
went into the hot tub and thenwe went into the sauna and went
into the sauna, like I went in,got out, went back in, and the
second time I went back in likemy whole nervous system just
went haywire and from there itspiraled into.
(03:06):
You know, a er visit, like twoin the morning, three in the
morning, um, because I washaving experiencing an anxiety
and panic attack from from thatday for probably a good year,
consistently.
Um, I was experiencing anxietyand panic attacks way more
(03:31):
intense than I've ever had in mylife before.
So that was one of the mostrecent struggling times that I
can think of.
And then we can dive intodetails, if you like yeah, let's
talk about that.
Tammy Hershberger (03:48):
So that was the first experience you've had
with anxiety and panic attacksno, that was actually second
second okay, but that was likealmost the worst.
It sounds like yeah, it was.
Julio Molina (04:00):
Um, you know the thing about anxiety is, you know
it?
it it screams lies so loud thatthe biggest one is you think you
are just going to die yeah,yeah like it is like literally,
um so, but I had, I had neverexperienced like in a manifest
(04:24):
that manifested this time aroundin palpitations in my heart,
and I've never experienced thatbefore.
So I've experienced anxietyyears and years ago, but not
with palpitations of the heart.
So that was really scary.
It was weird, scary, it wasweird.
(04:47):
But you know, thankfully I, youknow I have a healthy heart and
I went through all the medicaltests because, again, anxiety
likes to lie.
So you just, you know, I'm likeI just want to make sure to
triple check.
So I'm all good there.
But yeah, it was very, veryintense.
Tammy Hershberger (05:00):
And I relate with you a little bit.
I'm doing pretty good right now, but during the worst of my
mental crisis I'm going to callit my burnout I was having so
much anxiety coming back and Iagree, it's like it's so
interesting because your mind'stelling you you're freaking out,
you're gonna like you said,you're gonna die, you're gonna
whatever, and you have to almostshift your mindset off of it to
get it to stop.
I mean, one time I was on aboat tour and we were just
(05:23):
getting ready to board the boatand I just started.
I'm not scared of boats, but Ijust started panicking, Like,
and I literally had to get offmy seat and walk around to look
at stuff to distract myself.
And then I was fine, but I'mlike, why would I die on the
boat?
I mean, it's fine, it's a big,open boat but it is a liar, that
(05:52):
is for sure.
Julio Molina (05:53):
So tell me, on your experience, did you, what
was the emotions, what was goingon in your life that do you
think caused that?
Or was there a catalyst forthat?
Or yeah, um, you know,obviously you don't know this
then, right, but, um, you knowhindsight 2020 as you, as you,
you know, look back, um, youknow what it was is.
You know, I was going through afinancial hardship and I was
trying to figure out how to fixthat problem, and the only way
(06:13):
that I knew how to fix it was to, you know, make money.
And I know it sounds silly, butit's like the way I only knew
how to do this is to go and makemoney.
So I went into thedealershiphip, back into the
dealership business, and thistime around, it was in in a
leadership role, right, as asales director.
(06:33):
So you know, the the autoindustry can be very taxing and
very stressful not for everyone,right, but my experience and
from what I've witnessed, it canbe very taxing on a person.
It can be very, very stressful.
Um, so you know, not only thatI have the pressure of having to
(06:55):
perform as a sales director,but also the pressure of like I
still have all this financialstress right and it all just,
you know, collided and thenthat's when that happened.
Now that's like my physical,human response.
(07:19):
But within the last three yearsI've done and when I say I, the
Holy Spirit has walked methrough so much inner man work
that it wasn't the stress thatwas the problem, it was other
things going on internally thatmanifested itself and, you know,
(07:43):
through financial hardship orwhatever the case might be are
you willing to dig into thatmore?
Tammy Hershberger (07:48):
can we unpack that a little bit more of what
the internal struggle was?
Julio Molina (07:53):
yeah, absolutely, and I'll say this I am, I am
very uncomfortable, um, rightnow, talking about this, and I'm
just being transparent becausebut I'm willing, because I sense
that the Lord is wanting me tobe honest and authentic about
(08:17):
some of these, some of theseseasons that I've went through.
And you know, I, it's not I, II like to encourage, right, so I
like to just be like positiveand talk about the good.
So sometimes having to go backtends to expose me, but that's
(08:39):
the lie of the enemy that haskept me from sharing the
testimony that God has given me,because the reality is is that
I'm not exposing myself.
I'm exposing what God has donein my life, and so go ahead.
Tammy Hershberger (08:55):
Well, I was just going to say and to
encourage you a little bit withthat is that testimony that
you're, you know that you'rescared to share, basically
because it's going to kind ofout you or show that you're not
a perfect human being, right,that is a testimony that could
massively help someone elselistening or that will
eventually hear this or has afriend who's struggling that
they can share it with.
And so I think the devil, youknow, uses those fears and the
(09:18):
anxiety and the stress to likebut if you say that you're going
to look less than right andreally it builds you up because
it's showing that you are notperfect, you are not, you know
this person that never makes amistake and that makes you human
Right.
Julio Molina (09:31):
Yeah, so, and I appreciate that.
So you know, I guess, what wasreally going on.
So you know I'm having theseextreme panic attacks, anxiety,
you know I'm.
I think I went into the ER inthat year like a total of, I
(09:52):
want to say maybe three or fourtimes, right, I think maybe
close to six, like noexaggeration.
And you know I did everything Icould, you know, physically,
right, I went into a localnutritionist, wanted to make
sure that it wasn't anythinggoing on in my physical body,
any toxins, like I'm just doingeverything that I physically or
(10:12):
mentally know how to try to getmy body and my mind to slow down
.
But what I found out in theprocess of, you know, going
through the healing process, ifyou will, from anxiety to none,
right, because I can't tell youthe last, like I can't tell you,
hey, on January 31st, at youknow, 2.20 in the afternoon,
(10:36):
mountain time, I got healed fromanxiety.
I just, I can't remember thelast time I had it and I can't
remember the last time I had itand I can't remember last time
it stopped.
But what I will say is this isthat I and it was an identity
situation that God was invitingme into, so I didn't, I didn't
(11:03):
know who I was and because ofthat, you know, I kept trying to
search and seek and find, andyou know all these different
things, um, and that's what keptleading into all the stress,
right, when you don't know whoyou are, you're just, you know,
trying to pick and choose.
(11:24):
Should I take this job?
Should I start this business?
You know, you're just, you know, trying to pick and choose.
Should I take this job?
Should I start this business?
You know, you're just, you'relost.
Tammy Hershberger (11:30):
So yeah, yeah , and so tell me about identity.
I think of a scripture 2Corinthians 5, 17,.
It says, therefore, if anyoneis in Christ, he is a new
creation.
The old has passed away, behold, the new has come, and I think,
because you were obviouslysaved at this point, right.
Julio Molina (11:48):
Yeah, yeah, you know, we're talking 16, 17 years
, yeah.
Tammy Hershberger (11:53):
Yeah, and I think sometimes we get, you know
, we find Jesus and we get saved.
And then you know, even inschool my Bible school, I mean
right now we're hammering in onthe identity of Christ and who
we are and the authority that wehave.
And because I think, you know,usually when we come to the Lord
in repentance, we're so I meannot everybody, but a lot of us
are pretty broken or strugglingor hurting or sad or whatever,
(12:13):
and we just are beat down.
And then we hear about thisJesus who's like, okay, this guy
, you know, takes our sins awayand we become clean and all
these things.
But then we don't know what todo.
We're like, hey, but we stillfeel yucky, we still, you know,
we don't give it over sometimesto the Lord and we keep
reminding ourselves who we arein the past and what we've done
and we can't be forgiven and allthese things.
And then we start questioningit and then the devil gets in
(12:33):
there and John 1, 12 says but toall who did receive him, who
believed in his name, he gavethe right to become children of
God.
And so it's really good forpeople listening to dig into who
are you as a child of God.
What does that mean?
What is your righteousness?
What does it say aboutforgiveness?
And when we step in that poweris when things change.
But it sounds like you were notthere.
(12:54):
You were still just kind ofbecause for you I'm guessing,
like you said, the financialswere masking the inner work that
you needed to do.
For me, my breakdown of likeburnout is what I call it.
But really when I got intotherapy I have a Christian
therapist that I go to andthere's so much from my past
with abuse and neglect, and thenlike my self-worth and all this
(13:15):
stuff, and I started to realizethrough that inner work, really
with the Lord's help, that likeI thought I was burned out
because of all the work I wasdoing, which that wasn't helping
because I wasn't resting.
But at the same time it's likealmost 42 years of stuff started
just coming out and I didn'teven know what it was.
I was just broken.
And then you start to dig inand realize that like I wrapped
my self-worth with my businessesand who I am and I didn't
(13:40):
realize who I was as a child ofGod.
And that's when you start torealize like, okay, this is not
the surface issue, it'ssomething much deeper, would you
agree?
Julio Molina (13:48):
Yeah, 100%.
And you know, and as I hear youtalk, right like, my last
answer was a little scattered.
So I am again and this is a newinvitation that God has invited
me into right to share thisside of the testimony.
But as I listen to you, right,I'm quietly praying and asking
(14:09):
the Holy Spirit for help to makeit sure that I communicate what
he allowed me to go through.
And what I believe is this is Idon't know why it happened and,
quite honestly, I don't knowwhat happened, but I do know
what happened, if that makessense, right, like, and what I
(14:30):
mean by that is I don't I couldsit here and and digest and be
like whoa, it happened because Ididn't know who I was, or it
happened because I was reallystressful, stressed out about
money, or it happened because of, you know, drug addiction, or
it happened because of a, youknow, since I was a kid, or
whatever.
But what's important is whathappened in the midst of that
(14:55):
trial and tribulation, and whathappened was what god said,
right, right and the, the, the,how important and crucial the
Holy Spirit was, that loudwhisper in my heart in the
(15:18):
middle of the most intense panicattacks and anxiety attacks.
I mean, I remember going on awalk once and when all this was
going on and you know you'rejust doing it, I'm doing
anything I can to just slow itdown.
Right, walks, you know anything.
And so I went on a walk andjust the Holy Spirit just asked
(15:42):
me a question from the fatherand he just said why are you so
afraid to die?
And as I'm on the walk and I'mlike, well, I'm looking around
and I'm going, I'm searching myheart, I'm going, well, god, I
think I think it's because, like, if I leave, I leave.
(16:04):
I haven't done.
You know, I haven't set myfamily up.
You know I haven't doneanything for my kids.
Like, you know, I'm going toleave them, they're still going
to be in debt.
Like I haven't, I guess Ihaven't set them up, so I can't
leave.
Like, okay, well then, if I gaveyou an opportunity to live,
(16:27):
what would you do with it?
Right?
So then then I answered him inin a very honest question and I
wrote these things down.
And that is the reason, andthat is my reason, for living
now, right, so, um, and they'revery specific things that are
backed up by scripture, right,like one, I was like well, lord,
(16:50):
you know, if you gave me anopportunity to live long, I
would.
I would, you know, love my wife.
Yeah, that's, that's biblical.
Love your wife, as christ lovedthe church.
Yes, I would, I would.
I would make sure that my kidsknow you.
Yes, that's biblical.
Like train your kids in theways of the Lord so when they
(17:11):
get older they don't depart fromme.
Yes, that's biblical.
And then I'm like then I would,you know, take care of my
parents as much as I could, aslong as they live.
Okay, yeah, that's biblical.
Like honor thy mother and thyfather, right?
And then all things will gowell with you, depending on the
translation that you read.
(17:32):
And then the last one, I waslike, and then I'm like then I
think I would do something foryour kingdom, but I just don't
know what, right.
And he was like I just heardthis very clearly Like that's
the problem you don't know,you're lost, right?
So then I?
(17:53):
Then, for me, it was like okay,then, then then what?
Like you know, help me find aplace.
So then, for me, I'm like okay,then then the prayer should be
help me find a place in yourkingdom, right?
What do I do?
And that led me into thisidentity, discovery of who am I?
(18:17):
Not your typical biblical thingsthat we hear from pulpits.
Right, like you know, you're amasterpiece.
You're wonderfully andfearfully made and you know he
knew you before you were in yourmother's womb and all these
things are good.
I'm not knocking them, but youneed to be able to hear for you
(18:38):
from god.
What does he specifically sayabout you?
So I just wanted to highlightthat because it just bear
witness in my heart to be likeit's not as the why is not as
important as what and whathappened was is everything that
God said to me and the thingsthat the Holy Spirit taught me.
(18:59):
That's like exciting to mestill to this day.
Tammy Hershberger (19:07):
I mean, I have to say one thing, though,
because I think you, or at leastwere a believer and you were
smart enough to to find out whatis going on, because sometimes
I think that pause that, thatwhatever you want to call it,
that lapse that, whatever thatbrought you to your knees, kind
of right like to the panicattack stage of like something
has to get your attention, and alot of people are too busy and
not spending time in the lord ornot even knowing who the lord
(19:28):
is, and they don't even know.
They just think, oh, I havepanic attacks, I'm gonna have
these the rest of my life, right, or I have anxiety, or I have
depression or whatever, and Ithink it's.
You have to give yourself alittle credit, though, that you
knew enough in your spirit todig into like what is this?
This is not normal, it's notsomething I have to live with,
right, would you?
Would you agree on that?
Julio Molina (19:46):
yeah, 100.
And you know, again, as I, as Ilooked at some of the questions
that you sent me, you know, oneof the the questions was like,
you know, it was really the thebest way I can answer it like
how did you, you know, how didyou know how to kind of deal
with this or whatever the casemight be, and it's like that
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because of what I learned goingto church and the church that I
was going to at the time was bigon, you know, declaring and
speaking the word over you andyou know, getting in the word,
getting in the word.
So when that, you know, thevery first time I experienced
anxiety you're talking, you know, 12 plus years ago, the very
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first time I experienced it Iremember the pastor that I had
at the time had mentionedsomething along the lines of
from the pulpit that him and hiswife were going through a um,
believing God for a miracle, andhe literally took the Bible,
the physical Bible, and stood ontop of the Bible and said, god,
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I am standing on your word, andwas having a prayer session
with God and was saying I amstanding on your word and
believe in that you're going towork all things for our good and
your glory.
So the first time I experiencedit, I literally took the Bible,
went into my bathroom, took myshoes off and I said Lord.
(21:13):
I literally said I'm sorry ifI'm, you know, disrespecting you
, but I'm going to do what Iheard my pastor say because I
just believe that this will work.
At this time I literally Istood on the Bible and I said
I'm standing on your word, I'mstanding on Psalm 91, that I
will not fear, like you knowwhat I mean.
So it was, it was the seeds.
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This is why it's so important.
My point is is this that Ibelieve you know the Holy Spirit
wanted me to share is that thisis why it's so important to go
to church.
One of the reasons, becausethere are seeds that are going
to be planted in you for when atime of trial and tribulation
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does come, does come, and, asyou know, we've lived long
enough and are aware of manytestimonies in the world, even
by you know, faithful Christianleaders who've been serving the
Lord for 45 plus years, that atrial and tribulation will come.
But when it does come, you willreact based off of what you
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have heard heard, because thatseed that's been planted in you
will bear fruit right.
Tammy Hershberger (22:30):
So yes, yeah, I think I agree with you.
So you have to have your heartfertile.
It needs to be, you know, nothard pack ground.
So you need to have your heartopen to hearing the word of God.
You need to get that seed sownin you so it can start to sprout
correct, and then you need to,like you said, get in the word.
You need to have your heartopen to hearing the word of God.
You need to get that seed sownin you so it can start to sprout
correct, and then you need to,like you said, get in the word.
You need to have your mindright.
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You need to renew your mind tonot what the world says, but
what does the Bible say.
I thought of a couple ofscriptures while you're talking.
One is Isaiah 41, 10.
So do not fear, for I am withyou.
Do not be dismayed, for I'myour God.
I will strengthen you and helpyou.
I uphold you with my righteoushand.
Another one I like is Psalms 34, 17.
The righteous cry out and theLord hears them.
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He delivers them from all theirtroubles.
The Lord is close to thebrokenhearted and saves those
who are crushed in spirit.
But if you don't spend time inthe word yourself, reading your
Bible, getting into church,listening to sermons.
You won't know the scripturesto stand on, like you said, in
those trials.
Right, there's scriptures aboutfinancials, there's scriptures
about God's love.
There's so many scriptures inthere that you can stand on and
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use to fight against the fear,the worry, the stress.
You know what the devil istelling you, but if you don't
know those, you can't use them.
Julio Molina (23:49):
Yeah, and you know , what I'm just hearing in my
heart right now as we talk isthis um, when I answered back to
the lord, when he asked me onthe walk, why are you so afraid
to die?
And I gave him biblical answersin my heart.
Yeah, that's a good answer.
Right, I had peace about thoseanswers that I gave them because
they were biblical answers.
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But what I'm hearing in myheart right now is I thought it
was up to me and it's like Godwill grant me a long life Not so
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I can check those things,though they're biblical, but God
will grant me a long lifebecause he wants me to
experience him here on earth foras long as possible.
And some of these things that Iworried about, like honoring my
parents, taking care of them,because I, you know, I'm mexican
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and in our normal mexicancultures, you take care of your
parents when you get older,especially, you know, especially
us, being coming from, you knowmexico and being an immigrant
family, like it's what you do.
Especially one of the children,or you know the, you know one
of the boys, has experiencedsome type of success.
Like you take care of yourparents, like literally, like
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physically and financially, thewhole works, like you move them
in with you, like the whole nine.
So I was so worried about thatthat God was like I'm their
provider, like I will take careof them.
So now, three years later andwe talked a little bit about
(25:34):
this in the first episode thatthe amount of you know wages
that my dad is earning with ourwindow washing business has
allowed him to take care of someof the things in their home and
in their life that I was soworried about making it happen
for them.
Tammy Hershberger (25:54):
Yeah, he loves them just as much as you.
I mean, you hit it on the headwith God as their provider.
I'm going to add this reallyquickly I had an experience with
a bar.
Now we were kind of slow.
It was slow for a while and Iwas starting to worry about
money a little bit, and becausethe machine the bigger it gets,
the more money you need.
And there was a point where Iwas like, man, I don't want to
lay people off because I havethe best workers and I don't
know what I'm supposed to do.
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And I literally heard the Lordsay to me that you are not their
provider, I am.
And so when I got that pressureoff of myself right even in my
marriage I'm like my husband'smy provider, but not really.
The lord is like we.
He will find work to do andhe'll do what the lord tells him
, but the lord is the one whoprovides.
He provides the customers, heprovides the income, the
paychecks, whatever.
(26:35):
That is huge, julio, that yougot that yeah, and so again,
it's the what's important.
Julio Molina (26:45):
Is that what happened?
You know, I, I, I could youknow through professional help
and a lot of research and dataor just a lot of you know, even
just seeking the Lord, I, I'msure I could get insight as to
why these extreme anxiety andpanic attacks happen.
And, like visits to the er andeverything that was going, I
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literally lost like 35 pounds inlike 30 days.
Like it was so severe.
I was like 15 pounds lighterthan I was in my high school
years, like I was, I was notdoing at all and but what
happened is this again, thisidentity discovery of this is
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who you are, but this is who Iam, and then that allows me to
live peacefully.
Right, and I think I mentionedthis in the last episode that we
had together, or it might havebeen in our conversation
afterwards.
That, I think, probably ledinto the second invitation,
which I appreciate, is that oneof the things that the Holy
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Spirit showed me in the book ofJob about a month ago and
spending about three, four weeksin the book, is that the enemy
has two tactics, two strategieswhen trials and tribulations
come your way, and that is todistort your identity and to
distort the identity of God inyour life.
So when this situation happenedthree years ago and I'm
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experiencing what I just sharedI first started to, of course,
doubt God, right, why me?
Same response that Job had.
Like, literally, I didn't knowthis right three years ago,
because I think I read the bookof Job once when I first got
saved.
And then I just didn't go thisright three years ago because I
think I read the book of Jobonce when I first got saved and
then I just didn't go back to itagain because it's a pretty
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crazy book, right.
But in the last couple ofmonths and what the Holy Spirit
has shown me now I have a newperspective on the book of Job.
Now I'm not afraid to read thebook of Job, as if, like, I am
expecting trouble.
No, no, no, it is what the HolySpirit showed me again is about
that identity.
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When I was going through what Iwas going through, I started to
doubt God.
I'm like, why me?
Right.
And then, second, I started tothen beat myself up.
Well, it's because of you, it'sbecause you can't sit still,
it's because you can't figureout what you want in life, it's
because you know you keep makingbad financial decisions, right,
and you see, job Job did thisIn the first trial.
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He blames God and says God gives, it giveth and God taketh.
Well, that's not true.
Half of it is true.
He gives, but he doesn't takeaway.
But the good thing about thatis that the scripture says that
he did not sin against God whenhe blamed God.
So then, this allows us to, itgives us freedom, it gives us
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peace.
Excuse me, to know that thehuman nature, whenever we come
against a trial, tribulation,whenever we come against trouble
or we're struggling in life,and if one of our responses is
we start blaming God or doubtinghim, he's not offended.
Is my point.
He understands.
This is a human nature response.
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The second response of Job hethen now starts blaming himself
of Job.
He then now starts blaminghimself.
He even says things like hewishes that the day he was
conceived would be erased.
What he even says, that he, ina different translation, that he
hated his life.
And I literally experiencedboth of those things.
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But the beauty of it was thisNow you know hindsight, 2020,
literally just almost a coupleof months ago, tammy, I just got
this freedom in my heart fromyou know what it seemed like a
two and a half, almost a four,three year season, and it was
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this three year season and itwas this.
I started reading the book ofJob, in chapter 32, about a
couple of months ago.
I was just led there.
I hesitated a little bitbecause, again, I told you about
the perspective I had of thebook.
I'm like, oh man, like is Godtrying to, the Holy Spirit
trying to show me that droughtwas coming?
So I'm in the book and from 32to 35, we see a fourth man in
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the book and it was a young manand the Bible says that he
waited patiently for Job and histhree friends to be done,
talking and basically trying togive a conclusion or opinion as
to why Job went through what hewent through and why God did
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what he did.
Quote unquote.
Now, when you read this, you go,wow, like, first of all, you
respect the guy because he says,hey, you guys are older than me
, so I needed to wait.
So you know you respect the guyand you go well, okay, than me,
so I needed to wait.
So you know you respect the guyand you go well, okay, that's,
you know you're being honorable.
And then you listen to hisresponse and you go, well,
that's a very well craftedsummary of everything that was
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said.
Like that makes sense.
Like in in a court of law,you'd be like, oh yeah, like you
know, uh, he won the case right.
Like, yeah, you beat him in theargument.
But when I read that, the HolySpirit, when I got done reading
his response, the Holy Spiritjust said to me, yeah, but
that's not actually whathappened.
And he reminded me of chapterone in the book of Job.
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And what happened?
Was this a joke?
And what happened was thisSatan comes before the presence
of God with members of theheavenly court, which we talked
about this in the phone callthat after our podcast, our
first podcast episode.
I'm like you know, I have somequestions as to why these
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members of the heavenly courtwill let this guy come with.
You know, I'm like they know Ihave some questions as to why
these members of the heavenlycourt will let this guy come
with.
You know, they should have justclosed the door and let them
outside the van.
Yeah, but he comes before thepresence of the Lord and the
Bible says that God asked Satanwhat have you been up to?
What are you doing, dependingon the translation that you read
(33:13):
?
And Satan replies back to himI've been basically roaming
around and seeing what's goingon on the earth, which is
biblical, because he's looking,you know, he's roaming around
like a lion, looking who he maydevour, and then God brings up
Job.
Brings up Job and tells him whoJob is, right, he's the finest
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man in all the earth, and allthese different things.
And then Satan replies back tohim and says well, the only
reason why he's faithful isbecause everything he does
prospers.
A different translation says hecan't lose.
And then after that, god says,quote unquote green light.
Right, have Adam, but you can'tharm him.
(34:01):
Here's why I'm sharing this withyou and with those that are
listening, because what happenedwas in that it was very simple.
God said something nice aboutJob to Satan.
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That was the whole genesis ofthe tribulation.
That was all.
However, it had nothing to dowith who Job was.
He was the finest man on theearth.
I mean, the guy was blameless.
Why?
Why would god decide to attackhim if he was doing evil, if
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that was a character, a part ofgod's character, which is not
true?
Tammy Hershberger (34:50):
yeah, he wouldn't.
Julio Molina (34:51):
And then you know what I mean, like this guy's
blameless.
And so, in me reading this andand having communion with the
holy spirit, I'm like youcouldn't depict like somebody
else, you know like a, like likesomebody who's sinning and just
killing folks.
That would have been moreconvenient, right, um, so
anyways.
But, um, he said something niceabout Job to Satan.
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So it wasn't because anythingJob had done or who he was.
So we see Job's response thesecond time about himself.
It has nothing to do with you.
The evil or the trials andtribulations you're experiencing
is not because of you, becauseGod thought highly of Job.
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And then watch this and thensecond it had nothing to do with
God's character, because Godonly gives, he's only good.
So then, what's the purpose?
The purpose is, as I'm talkingto you right now, quite honestly
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I haven't gotten this far inthe revelation, but as I'm
talking to you, when you readthe book of Job, job actually
starts talking back to God andto his friends and says
something along the lines oflike you know bad, good and bad
come from you know from god, orif they don't, then where does
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it come from?
Again, I'm condensing thetranslations.
Right, I'm not quoting exactly,but but it's in the book.
Here's my point, when I readthat I'm going wait a minute,
wait a minute.
You had never experienced evilin your life, so you didn't even
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know where evil could come from, because you didn't even know
what it was.
Does that make sense?
Like he had never experiencedplanting a seed and not growing?
Mm-hmm, he had neverexperienced, you know, starting
a business and not flourishing.
Like because the Bible says hecan't lose.
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But here's the other thing Ibelieve that bears witness to
share with everyone.
That was what I'm grateful for.
I believe that Joe did not knowGod.
He, he, he might have knownabout him, but he did not know
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God.
You're saying in the sense thathe didn't know the true
character of God.
Tammy Hershberger (37:41):
Well, is that what you're saying?
Julio Molina (37:44):
You don't, trials and tribulations will allow you
to be in such communion with theFather that it gives you an
opportunity to really know him.
Like somebody can quote youscripture until you're blue in
the face.
But I am talking about likeunknowing, you know.
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It's kind of like in yourmarriage or in friends, right.
Like you don't know who yourfriends are until you go through
a hard time and you're like, oh, you know, this guy was gonna
punch me in the face but thenthis guy took the punch from me.
Oh, like I can trust you.
Yeah, so I, he, he, he didn'tknow god.
Like, really, really know god.
If you, if you knew god, youwould have never said out of
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your mouth he give it and hetakes, takes it, he taken.
Yeah, you would have never saidthat.
Because if, if I, you know, ifI would to spend, you know, five
, ten years with you, tammy,like you know, on a day-to-day
basis, and if somebody wouldhave come up to me and say, you
know, tammy's really stingy, andI'd say, no, she's not, she's a
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giver, right?
So why am I sharing all this?
Because I spent a lot of timeand, I think, a lot of the
turmoil and stress and anxietythat was happening while anxiety
is happening.
Which is crazy, is that I wastrying to figure out why, and
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the moment I embraced the trialand tribulation, it allowed me
to focus on the what, and whatwas happening was.
It was an invitation from Godto allow me to know who he was
and who I am.
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And that's a very it's easiersaid than done.
When you are and for those whoare listening, if you've
experienced, you know, anxiety,depression, panic attacks, any
of those things I it's very easyfor me to say that now, because
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I'm healed, right, I'm pastthat, but what I can say is that
hopefully that is that givesyou hope, right, that it is so
possible to get to that pointwhere there's this invitation
from the Lord to know who he isand to know who you are, and
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when you stop spending time onthe why, oh man, like because
the enemy wants to keep youthere.
Why does it happen?
Is it you?
Is it God?
Is it you?
Is it God?
Is it you?
It's none of those things.
It's just simply that God saidsomething nice to Satan about
you and he permitted it, but theoutcome would be is that you
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are going to know God in such away, friend, like you've never
had before.
Tammy Hershberger (40:57):
I really think too, and some of that, if
I can interject really quickly,is you know, sometimes I think,
like you said, you don't want toget focused on the why, because
I mean even my own strugglesI've experienced.
It's like I I saying I try tofigure it out for myself, right,
like I need to get another loan, I need to just do this, I need
to do that, and I tried to fixit, instead of turning myself to
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the Lord and say, okay, andthat's what happened to me in my
bottom.
I think that's why it got sobad for me, cause I, I just kept
trying to do it myself, findanother way, cause I'm a fixer,
and instead I had to give it tohim.
And that's when my freedom andmy help started to come, because
we as people, try to do itourselves, and when you give it
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to the lord, right he take,he'll step in, he will take care
of you, he will help you.
Because we get ourselves in ourown messes and then sometimes we
run to the lord like, please,daddy, fix it.
But it's like you maybe got tofix yourself, get yourself to
the point of, like, reallytrusting the lord and really
opening yourself up to what godhas, because there's been things
he's told me that I was like Idon't really want to do that, um
(42:00):
, but I did it and it worked andit made my life so much more
peaceful and calm.
Does that resonate?
Julio Molina (42:07):
yeah, 100, and you know what's.
What's so interesting is thatwhat I thought was is not what
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was.
Tammy Hershberger (42:30):
Yeah, it wasn't just money.
Julio Molina (42:33):
Yeah, and Job, I'm telling you, the book of Job
literally will expose to you thehuman experience of an
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encounter with a trial andtribulation in your life, with
trouble.
There's a time where a friendresponds back to Job and says if
you get your character right,then God will restore you.
That sounds good, really good,but it's half true.
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And when you listen, if youlisten carefully and you read
carefully, you kind of see thatthere's sarcasm in the way that
this friend is saying it, whichyou also have to be careful,
very, very careful about andtake inventory of the friends
that you're around.
Because, if half of it is true.
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Yes, god will restore folks.
Yes, but the first one if youget your character right.
Wait a minute, this is in likechapter 10 or 12, somewhere in
there.
In chapter one, the Bible saysthat he was blameless, he had
perfect character, he was a manof integrity.
Why would you tell your friendthat?
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That sounds like the enemyplanting a seed of doubt.
So I, in what you just said.
Here's what, going back to the,what the holy spirit allowed me
to.
He taught me to ask godquestions instead of questioning
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him.
Whenever trials or tribulationsor any trouble or any
inconvenience or anyuncomfortable situations or
seasons come in my life likethis, if I let you say, I
hypothetically get a flat tire,the most common response of a
human being and I'm done it.
Why, why me?
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Why right now?
I gotta go to work, I gotta gopick up my kid or I gotta go do
this.
Why me?
Why right, like really god,that questioning god, asking god
questions, would look like thesame scenario.
God, what do you want me to seein this moment?
What do you want me to know?
What do you want me to hear?
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Who do you want me to help?
What do you want me to do,because you permitted this, so
that that that gentleinterruption or your divine plan
for my life, because you, youwill, you, you did this with
jesus you will turn everythingfor our good in your glory.
The enemy had no idea that thatgod had jesus in his mind.
(45:29):
No idea, no, no idea.
He's like oh shoot, oh, Ithought I won, but oh man, no, I
guess I was conquered.
Oh, that failed.
So in that scenario, right likeI would encourage those who are
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listening that if you'veexperienced any trials or
tribulations in your life,friend, a health diagnosis, the
C word, cancer you knowsomething in your heart or in
your brain or in your mind, oryou know anxiety or panic
attacks or your business orwhatever you would classify as
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trouble or trials andtribulations or struggle.
I would just invite you, friend, to ask God questions, not
question him.
And that invitation that theHoly Spirit invited me into,
that I'm extending to you today,will allow you to see the what
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God wants you to see.
And I'll give you a verypractical testimony to this
Because I work in the carbusiness.
I understand that you knowkeeping your cars in good shape
and having a car having anaccident on the car faax, you
know, could drop the value ofthe vehicle.
So I always kept my cars ingood shape and keep them clean
(46:59):
and whatever you know, if youwant to trade them in and you
know you have, you're actuallytelling them the truth.
Like, hey, I baby this thing,it's been kept clean, like you
can put it in your showroom soand you're able to get more
money for it because it'svaluable and it's true.
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Well, last year I ended upgetting I got rear-ended in one
of my cars.
So I get rear-ended at like 30,35 miles an hour.
Now I'm being honest with you.
Yeah, my response was likereally, god, that's literally
what I said.
But then I said what do you?
I put this into practice, whatdo you want me to see?
What do you want me to know?
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What do you want me to do inthis moment?
And he, he, he then speaks tomy heart and says I need you to
tell the guy who hit you that heneeds to go back to church,
like very specifically.
So I, we're talking, we'vealready exchanged licenses and
information and all that, so I'mwaiting to hear from the Holy
spirit.
A few minutes go by and then Ihear this.
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So then I go up to him and Isay hey, man, I just want to let
you know.
You know, I'm not mad at you,but I just really feel in my
heart that I'm supposed to tellyou.
You're supposed to go back tochurch.
He's like oh man, I know I justgot out of jail.
That guy didn't even have adriver's license.
I just got out of jail.
My grandma's been telling me Ineed to go back to church.
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My mom's been telling me I needto go back to church.
So asking God more questionsrather than questioning him
allows you to come on somebody.
Thank you, holy Spirit Allowsyou to have an experience the
encounter that God wants you,the collision that he wants to
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actually happen.
It would allow you toexperience that.
So, rather than me being likequestioning God and being upset
about my car, again, it's goingto get fixed.
Yeah, there's going to be sometemporary inconvenience, like
I'm probably not going to have acar for a week until it's in
the shop, but they're going togive me a rental.
Like I'm probably going to haveto pay a deductible.
Like there's all theseinconveniences, right, but if I
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focused on blaming God or askingGod or questioning Him, it
completely takes my mind off ofwait a minute.
In the middle of that trial andtribulation, of the
inconvenience, there was anencounter that God wanted to
happen and the response fromthat guy who hit me, talking
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back to me and saying, yes, mygrandma and my mom have been
telling me to go back to church.
That feeling, that feeling itis you.
I can't even express in wordshow it compares to the feeling
of why that I get hit in theinconvenience of it.
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The joy of that, ofencountering God in a trial and
tribulation, is so worth itcompared to anything else, right
?
Tammy Hershberger (50:14):
So hopefully that encourages somebody on the
podcast to ask God morequestions rather than
questioning him and embracingand knowing that he permitted it
and if he permitted it, there'san invitation to an encounter
with him and the fact that youwere obedient and you actually
talked to that gentleman,because you could have just been
hyped up, worked up, annoyed,you know, hurrying along, got to
get to work or whatever,instead you actually took the
(50:35):
time to talk with him.
And so obedience is huge too, Ithink, because we get so busy
and we don't listen, andwhatever happened to get you in
that situation.
I'm just glad that you tookthat time.
You listened to the Holy Spirit.
Julio Molina (50:50):
Yeah, and I think you know well I don't think I'm
sorry I I believe thatchristianity has taken a turn
from certain pulpits, certainpulpits to communicate to the
people that accepting jesus inyour heart and walking with god
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and following jesus and living aquote-unquote christ, following
lifellowing life, that it's notgoing to be all flowers and
butterflies and paradise, and Ithink a lot of times people
didn't want to say that becauseit gave room or a voice to evil
(51:34):
or a, you know, an evilexpectation in your life.
But here's what I believe myheart would be for folks based
off of, because, by the way,this anxiety and panic attack
season that I had in my lifeit's not just anxiety, there is
a mental warfare that you can'teven explain like it is so
(52:02):
intense.
But what is important is, can Ipass on to people what the holy
spirit taught me of how to gothrough it when it happened?
And, friend, trials andtribulations will happen.
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I wish I promised you part ofthe reason why I was so upset
when I experienced it wasbecause I which, by the way, I'm
kind of a perfectionist bynature, so I, I want, I wanted
life to be perfect in myexpectation of life caused a
(52:47):
very, very uncomfortablefrustration in my spiritual life
.
So I'll what I want to do, inthe name of Jesus right, is to
just pass on to you the how toget through that.
That's what's important.
What do you do when you get adiagnosis?
(53:07):
What do you do when your childgets murdered for an unjustly
you know reason, like some ofthese really, really serious
trials and tribulationencounters, don't be afraid to
know that they may come.
Be encouraged that the HolySpirit will encounter you there
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so you can get through it.
And the communion you will have, the relationship you will have
with the Lord when you gothrough it, and the communion
you will have, the relationshipyou will have with the Lord when
you go through it.
While you're going through it,it's going to be like nothing
you've ever experienced before.
So when people ask why do yougo to church or why do you
believe in God, it's not becauseyou go to church.
(53:52):
It's not even because of whatyou've seen God do.
It's because of what youencountered personally when
nobody was around, right?
So hopefully those that arelistening are encouraged to know
that there is a way of how togo through when you're in the
(54:12):
middle of that trial andtribulation.
Tammy Hershberger (54:17):
Yeah, I want to really touch, or quickly
touch on the strongholds of themind man.
We've been digging into that alot in school lately and there's
a scripture, 2 Corinthians 10,3,.
It says for though we walk inthe flesh, we are not waging war
according to the flesh, for theweapons of our warfare are not
of flesh, but have divine powerto destroy strongholds.
We destroy arguments and everylofty opinion raised against the
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knowledge of God and take everythought captive to obey Christ.
It's because the devil, theonly power he has, is deception,
right, that's the only thing hecan do.
He is not good at anything else.
And so when he gets in yourhead and he just starts to,
first thing he does is he kills,steals and destroys, right,
it's what the Bible says.
And so if you think about that,he's going to get in your head
(55:00):
and he's going to tell you allthe lies that he has.
He's going to go against theword of God.
He wants you to start doubtingGod.
You know, I am not saved, I amnot forgiven, I am not redeemed,
I am not all these things thatthe Lord says I am, because then
you start to get those thoughtsgoing.
And once you get those thoughtsgoing.
That is a slippery slope, right, because that's how I mean
people.
I know that I've regressed backinto drinking.
It's like they've toldthemselves so many times that
they're they're an addict andthey're never going to change
(55:21):
and I'm going to have this therest of my life.
Now you may have thattemptation.
Your flesh is there.
Your flesh does not change.
But the more you dig into theword they were talking about
that recently, how our fleshdoes not change we as believers
think that, like, once we havethe Lord, the flesh is going to
be so easy.
We're not going to want thesethings.
(55:42):
The flesh doesn't change.
The flesh still wants the badstuff.
But your spirit and what you'veput in your heart and those
seeds, they take over.
And, trust me, this is going toprobably sound stupid to you and
I.
This is going to probably soundstupid to you, and I don't even
know if you know who I'mtalking about.
But when I was younger I likedACDC a lot and I remember
talking to this Christian friendof mine and he was like I would
never go to that concert and Iwas like, uh, you're crazy, I
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would always go.
I would never imagine myselfnot going, and not that they're
necessarily a bad band.
The mute though I like, themusic, the lyrics are terrible.
Um, now, at this day and age,just through time and spending
time with the Lord and gettingto know the Lord and changing
myself, I would not go because Idon't want to confess some of
the stuff that they're saying.
And so it's like a naturalprogression of like the more you
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get God in you, the more yourlife will change, the less you
want that fleshly stuff.
I mean, have you everexperienced that?
Julio Molina (56:43):
that.
Oh man, um, yeah, I mean, oneof the biggest strongholds,
mental struggles I had clearlywas that I thought it was all up
to me, that I thought, andbecause of that you think that
you're the problem.
So you know, again there's afriend of Job, responds back to
Job and says you know, if you dothis and if you do that, then
you'll be right.
And it's like when I read that,I'm like Holy Spirit, I've been
(57:09):
believing that lie for so manyyears.
I've been trying to fix myselfsince I accepted Jesus so I can
place myself in a position wherehe can bless me.
That's literally been one ofthe biggest like you know,
strongholds in my life Like it'snot and the whole time God's
(57:33):
like.
You know I'm just Using this asan example the whole time God's
like, but you're blameless andI'm like, and I've been, you
know, for 15-16 years.
I believed a lie Since Iaccepted Jesus, that I needed to
fix Myself so that I can beplaced in a position where God
(57:56):
can bless me.
And this last season that Iwent through in my life, the
trial and tribulation and theway that it manifested itself
and the way that God permittedit, allowed me by the grace of
the living God allowed me to befree from that lie and that
(58:19):
answer came two months ago.
Now it got better day by day,yeah, but there wasn't full,
full peace internally, full,full, full peace internally.
And to have that, that peacenow, that I am encouraged now to
(58:42):
know that what I went throughis because God said something
nice about me to Satan.
And I am curious to know, on adaily basis, what do you say
about me?
What did you say?
Not the common things I hearfrom the pulpit, but what do you
(59:05):
say I want to hear from yourmouth Something that's not even
in scripture.
If it could right which we knowthat he won't talk outside of
his word.
But yeah, I agree with you, um,110, those, those mental
strongholds are.
So again, friend, I just man,like I literally want to just go
(59:28):
until I.
I have no more breath, tammyand I, and I know, you know, we
are crunched on time yeah but Ijust but here's what my desire
is.
I literally just want to justkeep talking or preaching and
just communicating to peoplethat there's a beauty in the
triumvirate, and I'm trying todo my best to listen to the Holy
(59:48):
Spirit to say what can I giveto my brothers and sisters?
Because I know what it was liketo be in that dark, Like I
literally seen the light, likemy heart rate got like up to
like 32 beats per minute, Likethere was, there was I, and I
know what that's like to bethere.
(01:00:09):
So I just want to tell folks,like I just want to tell them
it's possible to get out, butthat's so cliche.
I want to actually tell you howthe Holy Spirit taught me to
get out and how to go through.
Tammy Hershberger (01:00:26):
Will you explain that real quick, because
I know we are close on timehere.
Can you just give them a couplethings that like maybe a new
believer or someone that'sobviously struggling?
Like what would you say to yourbest friend right now if they
said hey, julio, I'm reallystruggling here.
What would your little advicebe to them I shouldn't even say
little, that demeans it what isthat powerful advice that you
would give to them to say okay,this is what you need to do.
Julio Molina (01:00:49):
First thing I would tell them is this I have
good news for you.
One it has nothing to do withyou, which means it has nothing
to do with what you have done inthe past that you think has put
you in this situation.
(01:01:10):
It has nothing to do with you.
Second, god does not have anounce of evil in him.
As a matter of fact, he doesn'tthink about evil.
Like it doesn't make sense tohim.
Here's what I mean.
(01:01:33):
A few weeks back we went to goshoot a music video and with a
friend and the studio we went toit's a music music, it's a
video shooting studio.
Before we went there it was himand his wife.
His wife directed the video andwritten the script and
everything like that.
She said to us hey, before wego in there, I just want to let
(01:01:54):
you know it's a secular place.
They do film pornography inthere.
So if this has been a stumblingblock for you or any of you, I
just need you to let me know inadvance so that I can either a
have them block it, if they can,b just not go in those rooms,
or you, you know, whatever.
So when we went in there, Ijust had this realization.
(01:02:19):
This revelation just hit me.
I'm like, wait a minute, peopleare still sinning today, and
here's what that means.
I have been so much in thespirit that I literally was like
oblivious to sin.
(01:02:40):
So when I say I, I'm not givingmyself credit.
It's been the holy spirit doingthe work.
But here's why I use thatexample god, it doesn't even
compute to god Like evil, likewhat he couldn't do it, he
couldn't even think it.
(01:03:01):
So it's not you and it's notGod.
Third, because it's ask, askgod, god.
What do you want me to know inthis moment?
(01:03:27):
That's it.
That's, that's, honestly, whatI would say if there was a
friend of mine to answer yourquestion.
If there was a friend of minestruggling with life, what do I
do?
Just know it's not you, know,it's not God, and just ask him
questions.
What do you want me to know?
What do you want me to see?
Tammy Hershberger (01:03:50):
To add a scripture to that last line,
because then I think you justneed to be patient and listen to
what the Lord's telling you andbe open.
And sometimes it's you knowsomething.
Maybe you don't want to hear oryou're like, oh, I don't really
want to do that, but maybe youneed to listen.
So it's Psalms 27, 13.
I remain confident of this Iwill see the goodness of the
Lord in the land of the living.
Wait for the Lord, be strongand take heart and wait for the
(01:04:11):
Lord.
Hulu, do you have anything elseto say before we wrap this up?
Julio Molina (01:04:17):
I mean, I know we could talk forever but you got a
business to run.
Yeah well, you know, what Iwould say is you know, first,
you know, thank you for allowingme the opportunity to come back
and talk about this topic.
You know, second, what I wouldsay is, to anybody listening, I
(01:04:40):
would ask that you would commenton the Facebook post of Light
Up your Business podcast, on theplatforms where you can comment
and just share with us what didyou hear God say to you in this
(01:05:01):
episode?
You know, what did he say toyou in the situation that you're
currently in, or possiblyanything that you've gone
through in the past?
And you know, I guess the lastthing is, if is is, if I, you
know, if you could allow me just, you know, a few, a few minutes
to just pray for for those whoare listening, you know, I would
(01:05:24):
appreciate that.
Tammy Hershberger (01:05:25):
Absolutely the floor is yours.
Julio Molina (01:05:37):
Holy Spirit, there's so much I would like to
say, but what's more importanthere is what you want your
people to hear, what you want tospeak to them.
And, holy Spirit, you were withme in that very dark time that
I am learning how to articulateand communicate to your people.
(01:05:59):
Heavenly Father, I'm asking,I'm petitioning you, sir, that
you would provide everythingthat you provided to me
personally that allowed me to gothrough the season, that
allowed me to hear, that allowedme to listen.
(01:06:19):
I thank you for the gift of theHoly Spirit and if there's been
any, if there are any brothersand sisters listening who have
not received that baptism orthat baptism of the Holy Spirit,
heavenly Father, I'm askingthat, through a divine
appointment, that they woulddesire to be filled with the
(01:06:44):
Holy Spirit.
Because it is you, holy Spirit.
It is because of you andbecause of you that I am where I
am today.
That I am where I am today.
You were that loud whisper in myheart that allowed me to go
through that anxiety, thosepanic attacks, the low heartbeat
(01:07:04):
, the palpitations of the heart.
It was your whisper, it was yourwords.
It was literally you picking meup from underneath my arms, if
you will, and saying get up andlet's do it one more time.
So I pray and I hope thatpeople would desire you through
listening to this podcast,because it is because of you,
(01:07:27):
friend, that I'm able toexperience the freedom and the
peace that I have now.
And I just ask, last but notleast, heavenly Father, that you
would continue to bless Tammyin this podcast.
I thank you for continuing toguide her steps.
I thank you for placing her inthe right place at the right
time, with the right peopledoing and saying the right
things.
Thank you for divineappointments.
(01:07:47):
Thank you for allowing her tobe courageous and to share
what's in her heart and what'sin her mind when she comes and
encounters different people inBible school or any encounter,
and continue to bless herbusiness In Jesus' name, amen
and amen, amen.
Tammy Hershberger (01:08:05):
Julio, it's such a pleasure having you on.
I just love talking to you andI believe strongly.
I'm praying for you and yourbusiness, your family.
I think there's amazing thingson the line for you.
I love that you're puttingvideos out.
I'm seeing them on Facebook.
I'm sharing them.
Do you want to tell people howto get a hold of you on Facebook
or to find you or any otherplatforms you have?
Julio Molina (01:08:23):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.
So Facebook is Julio Molina.
You know it's my personalFacebook.
And then it would be WindowWashing, rochester, minnesota.
All one word on Facebook forWindow Washing business we just
(01:08:44):
launched a.
We just opened our Instagrampage for Window Washing R-N.
As in mom N, as in Nancy,you'll look forward to more
content there and that contentis going to be very it's going
to be a journey type contentwhere I'm going to allow people
to see what God is doing in ourbusiness and how he's building
(01:09:05):
it.
And then, yeah, so that's howthey can get a hold of me and I
post videos on.
You know, when I'm led to andwhen I feel like I got a word
that that his people would wantto hear or need to hear, um,
then I'll post it on there.
Tammy Hershberger (01:09:22):
Yeah, I mean we need to be the ones, we need
to be the light of the world,right For those that are in the
dark.
And I appreciate you steppingup.
I mean it's it's hard whenyou're growing a business and
yet you're still willing to helpothers, and that's how God's
going to bless you, I believe,because you've got a heart for
people.
Julio Molina (01:09:38):
Yeah, I appreciate that and yeah, it's fun.
Tammy Hershberger (01:09:41):
Yeah Well, thank you all for listening.
Remember to like, subscribe,share.
If you want to send me an email, it's lightupyourbusinessllc at
gmailcom.
Like Julio said, comment on ourpost.
We'd love to hear how God'sworking in your life or reach
out if you have questions or youhave an episode idea.
(01:10:02):
And we thank you all.
We'll see you next time andremember, in the world of
business, every success storybegins with a passionate dream
and ends with a strategicbillion dollar handshake.
Stay ambitious, stay innovativeand keep making those deals
that reshape tomorrow.
Thank you all for tuning in anduntil next time remember.
Proverbs 3, 3 says let love andfaithfulness never leave you.
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Bind them around your neck,write them on the tablet of your
heart.
That way you will win favor anda good name in the sight of God
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