Breaking Free from Self-Sabotage with Albert Bramante

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What if every "no" you've received in business wasn't actually rejection, but simply a message that your services aren't needed today? This perspective-shifting concept is just one of many game-changing insights shared by Dr. Albert Bramante in our latest conversation.

Albert brings his unique background as a PhD psychologist, certified hypnotherapist, NLP practitioner, and successful business owner to tackle the universal challenge of self-sabotage. Whether you're an established entrepreneur or just starting your business journey, you'll recognize the patterns he describes—the moments when we become our own worst enemies through fear, perfectionism, and self-doubt.

The conversation takes a deep dive into practical mindset shifts that can transform your business approach. Albert explains how our brains often disguise fear as logical thinking, creating convincing excuses that keep us playing small. He shares powerful language hacks like adding "yet" to statements about what you haven't accomplished, and replacing "I have to" with "I get to" when approaching tasks. These simple shifts fundamentally change how we approach challenges and opportunities.

Perhaps most valuable is the discussion around delegation and control. Many entrepreneurs become the bottleneck in their own businesses because they believe no one can do things as well as they can. Albert provides practical strategies for letting go, trusting others, and focusing on high-level growth rather than getting caught in day-to-day operations. As he explains, "Most of the time, the bottleneck isn't other factors—it's you."

Ready to break free from self-sabotaging patterns and take your business to new heights? Listen now and discover how psychological awareness could be your most powerful business tool. After this episode, you'll never look at rejection, delegation, or even your daily to-do list the same way again.

ALL ABOUT DR. ALBERT

Dr. Albert Bramante holds a distinguished Ph.D. in Psychology and is a certified hypnotherapist and NLP Practitioner. With a deep-rooted passion for understanding the intricacies of the human mind, Dr. Bramante has dedicated his career to exploring and mastering various therapeutic techniques. His extensive training with renowned hypnosis instructors has further solidified his expertise in the field.

In addition to his credentials in psychology and hypnotherapy, Dr. Bramante is currently authoring a book that promises to amalgamate his professional insights with personal experiences. Having overcome numerous challenges in his life, he believes in the transformative power of resilience and perseverance, themes he often touches upon in his writings and sessions.

Beyond the realm of psychology, Dr. Bramante has made significant strides in the entertainment industry as a talent agent based in New York City. His commitment to nurturing and promoting talent has led him to work with a diverse range of actors and professionals, fostering relationships built on trust and mutual respect.

A fervent advocate for self-development and spirituality, Dr. Bramante integrates these principles into his practice, offering a holistic approach to well-being. His dedication to personal growth is evident not only in his professional endeavors but also in his continuous pursuit of knowledge and self-awareness.

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Hi everyone, I want to welcomeyou back to another episode of
Light Up your Business podcast.
Today I have a special guest.
His name is Albert Bramante andhe has a PhD in psychology.
He's a certified hypnotherapistand NLP practitioner.

(00:42):
He integrates clinical andapplied psychological techniques
in his work.
He's got over 20 years ofexperience in coaching, teaching
and talent representation,operating as a licensed and
franchised talent agent since2003.
He's the CEO and founder ofVermontay Artists.
He's also the author of RiseAbove the Script, confronting
Self-Doubt and MasteringSelf-Sabotage for Performing

(01:04):
Artists.
And so how are you today,albert?
We welcome you to the podcast.

Albert Bramante (01:09):
First of all, thank you, Kandi, for having me.
I'm doing great.
It's amazing.
Yeah, I'm super excited to haveyou here.

Tammy Hershberger (01:16):
We're going to dig into self-sabotage today,
and so I kind of is thereanything else you want to add?
Before I just kind of jump intothe questions?

Albert Bramante (01:23):
No, ready to go whenever you're ready.
Okay, so for anyone who doesn'tknow you yet, can you give us a
quick snapshot of kind of whoyou are and what you do besides
what I just read?
Sure, my name is AlbertBermondi.
I also have worked in coaching.
I wrote a book last year calledRise Above the Strip Perfuring

(01:49):
Self-Doubt and MasteringSelf-Sabotage for a Performing
Artist, and so it's justsomething that I'm really
passionate about and that's kindof where I became more of an
expert in is performance mindsetcoaching, so helping
individuals overcome self-doubtand, again, mastering
self-sabotage.

Tammy Hershberger (02:08):
Which is interesting.
How many of us do that?
I would say we probably all doit, don't you agree?

Albert Bramante (02:13):
100%, 100%.
And you know I even call myselfthat.
I've done it several timesmyself.
You know that I think it'simportant just to kind of know
that.

Tammy Hershberger (02:25):
Yeah, and to recognize it.
So, basically, because you'veworn many hats you've been a
teacher, a talent rep, a coach,an author, a podcast guest how
did your journey begin and whatled you to this unique work that
you do today?

Albert Bramante (02:40):
I well again, I started just pretty much being
always into reading, intoknowledge, so I was considered a
bookworm in college as well,even as a child growing up.
The books were like mysanctuary.
So I think that's what kind ofsolidified my love for learning,
my love for getting knowledge.

(03:02):
And then I just becameinterested in the mind and the
brain, and so that really iswhat stuck with me for all this
time is knowing what we pick andhow black.
That's something I'm verypassionate about, and that was

(03:23):
like my first foray into psychout.
Studying psychology was, youknow, just for my love of
science, my love of the brainnervous system and all of that
yeah, and so what would you sayis a defining moment that really
shaped you know how you show uptoday.

(03:43):
Well, the defining moment was,you know, just having the idea
that I can overcome a lot.
You know, whether it's when Ireceived my PhD, walking across
that stage was a majorachievement, as well as starting
and launching a business, youknow, and being somewhat, you
know, successful in that, that,what I say, would be the major

(04:10):
factor.

Tammy Hershberger (04:12):
And I have to ask you really fast I don't
have this in my questions, butstarting a business, what made
you do that?
I mean, psychology is one wholebeast of its own, but then you
ended up starting a business.
What made you do that?
It sure is.

Albert Bramante (04:22):
Well, I in college, in high school and
college, I was very muchinterested in acting.
I wouldn't consider myselfinterested in professional
acting, but I was very much intobeing around actors and working
with actors.
I took some classes in college.
I was involved in someextracurricular activities which

(04:43):
are like around theater andacting, and so I wanted to kind
of pursue that interest a bitand so I love being around
actors and that was one thing.
I really just creative peoplein general, whether it's actors,
artists, those are what reallyI feel so connected with.

Tammy Hershberger (05:03):
So that explains why you have the
Bramante Artists.
Is that the business that youstarted originally?

Albert Bramante (05:13):
Yes.

Tammy Hershberger (05:13):
Yes, absolutely.

Albert Bramante (05:15):
That was like.
Well, initially that was theBramante Artists is my latest
company, Because what happenedwas that my first company was
called Emerging Talent and I hadthat from 2004 to 2020.
And then, during the pandemic,I had partnered up with another
agent and started another entitycalled Bonafide and Emerging
Artists, which I co-branded forthree years.

(05:38):
And then what happened afterthat is, I kind of went back on
my own and that's when I waslike I'm gonna rebrand and call
it Vermontay Artist, you know,using like my namesake.

Tammy Hershberger (05:52):
Yeah, do you want a quick?
I want you to do a little shoutout for your business really
fast, so can you tell peoplethat are listening that maybe
need that service what it is andexactly what you offer people.

Albert Bramante (06:01):
Sure well, one thing that I will offer you know
well, the Vermontae Artist ismainly for actors and anybody
who's pursuing actingprofessionally, so it's a talent
agency.
So we basically essentiallyserve as an employment agent for
actors.
What that entails is we findopportunities, work

(06:25):
opportunities.
Now, what I also do on thecoaching side of things is I
work with helping peopleovercome their limitations,
their self-imposed limitations.
So a lot of times what I findis people get in their own way,
as I mentioned earlier about theself-sabotage.

(06:46):
So helping people deal withissues that come up, with
self-doubt, imposter syndromeand anything else that may come
up Fear of success, blocks, anyother type of subconscious
blocks that can sometimes comeup.

Tammy Hershberger (07:00):
And what do you see as the most common type
of self-sabotage that you seewith entrepreneurs and business
owners?

Albert Bramante (07:07):
not, maybe not putting yourself forward, not,
uh, you know being the best youcan be.

Tammy Hershberger (07:18):
So, yeah, that's what I would kind of see
I can definitely connect to thatbecause I'm a business owner.
Obviously I have podcasts, Icoach all that.
But it is interesting how muchwe don't believe in ourselves
and then we limit ourselvesbecause we're like, well, we
can't do that, we don't haveenough education.
I don't have that experience.

Albert Bramante (07:35):
Right, and you start listening to that in a
sense, where it's like I don'tbelieve I can do this or I don't
believe I'm that successful inthat, and so you start listening
to that voice in your head andthen you start like playing
small, yeah, which can happen.

(07:55):
There's a lot of times somepeople just play small.

Tammy Hershberger (07:59):
Yeah, Can you give us a little more
information for someone who'slike this is new to them?
What does play small mean?

Albert Bramante (08:11):
Not taking advantage of the full, your
fullest potential, maybe actingout of fear, so maybe you don't
take that leap that you need tostart that business.
Or, to you know, go to do, dothe steps that's really needed
to fully thrive.
It's like playing, playing insync.

Tammy Hershberger (08:24):
Yeah, that's a good way to explain it.
And how do you help peoplerecognize when doubt is
disguising itself as logic, orperfectionism, or
procrastination?

Albert Bramante (08:35):
Well, it's pointing it out because a lot of
times fear, our brain isdesigned to defend us from fear
and defend us from danger.
That's what it's designed to do, and so very often, what we
want is to kind of startretraining that brain to say,

(08:58):
look, I'm not in danger anymore,and what might appear as logic
would be okay.
You protect the brain toprotect you, and so what might
come up with as a logical stepwould be okay.
I'm not going to do this.
I'm not going to go to this,this networking event, I'm not
going to do this presentationBecause I don't want to be found

(09:21):
out.
I don't want you know, I don'twant to be found out.
I don't want people to find outthat I'm a fraud.
And so, once it happens, maybeyou'll stay home, maybe you
won't go to that networkingevent.
You'll find an excuse I'm toobusy, there's a lot of traffic,
I don't feel well and thereforeyou just keep being stuck in a

(09:43):
state of non-productive or evenvictim mode, which is, I can't
do anything right.

Tammy Hershberger (09:55):
And it becomes a negative feedback loop
.
No, I'm sorry.
Continue A negative feedbackloop.
I like that.
So then you're just constantlytelling yourself all of these
excuses really is what isholding you back?
Because it's fear absolutely afear is a major thing that will
hold you back and so if you'restuck in that and if you're
listening listening now andyou're like, okay, I've done

(10:17):
that, I'm currently doing that,what is like the shift?
Or how do you because you said,retrain the brain, what does
that look like?

Albert Bramante (10:24):
well, that looks like like taking action,
doing things that aredifferently, like stepping
outside your comfort zone, um,and doing small actions.
So what I would say?
Definitely take action, so, andthat that could look
differently from everybodybecause it depends upon what
your goals are, but I wouldstart taking small, consistent
steps.
So, whether it's looking forcollaborators, putting yourself

(10:51):
out there If you're a speaker,getting involved in even small
stages, go to a localToastmasters or go someplace
where you can practice giving apresentation, even going live on
social media for two minutes oreven five minutes a day, and

(11:13):
just really putting yourself out.
There is the key.

Tammy Hershberger (11:17):
And I would imagine I mean in my own
experience it kind of starts tobuild your confidence Like, okay
, I did it, I didn't freak out,it didn't get terrible reviews
or whatever.
And then it just kind of thatconfidence helps you do the next
one right, just kind of baby,to build your confidence like,
okay, I did it, I didn't freakout, it didn't get terrible
reviews or whatever.
And then it just kind of thatconfidence helps you do the next
one right, just kind of babystep it yes, absolutely, just
it's taking one little thing ata time and what is it in our

(11:39):
brain that makes that feel likeis there a term for it?
or because I always think like,why do I build even myself?
I build stuff up so big.
And then I get to that momentand I push myself through it and
I'm like that was not as bad asI thought it was going to be
well, we, we generalize and wedistort.

Albert Bramante (11:56):
so it's like we distort things, we generalize
and we maybe magnify things morethan what they really are.
Maybe magnify things more thanwhat they really are, and fear
will do that Because, really, ifyou think about this, fear is
really.
It's all about false evidenceappearing real, and that's what
really fear stands for.

(12:16):
If you think about it is falseevidence appearing real.
So we tend to blow things upout of proportion, because even
if you take the worst casescenario of a lot of things, the

(12:37):
way we put it in our mindcompared to reality is going to
be much different.

Tammy Hershberger (12:41):
I have never heard, I don't know.
I guess I never knew fear wasfalse.
Can you tell me that one moretime?
I want to write that down Falseevidence, right?

Albert Bramante (12:46):
Appearing real, appearing real.

Tammy Hershberger (12:48):
How good is that?
I mean like, if you think aboutthat, we are.
You're letting your mind makethings appear real, real that
are not real, and so I want toask this do you have any good
stories or testimony or anythingyou can share of someone that
you've worked with that was likereally struggling with this and
you helped them to breakthrough that?

Albert Bramante (13:06):
because that's inspiring for other people who
are struggling with this yeah,absolutely going back to you
with the acting example, I metthis, this uh person who was
studying, you know, to be anactor.
She was in classes for like 10years but could never book work.
Now, outside of acting, she wasa vice in the corporate world.

(13:27):
She was a vice president of ofher division in a major
department store.
So she had a lot of successfulexperience and she had a
gravitas about her that reallypeople looked up to.
However, when it came to shejust couldn't deliver.
That same.

(13:48):
She became very it was verymousy and very submissive.
So it was kind of like justcoaching her to like, okay, use
that gravitas that you havenaturally and put it to the
roles that you can play.
And it was a lot about buildingher confidence because part of
it she just started to reallyfeel like maybe acting isn't for

(14:10):
me, maybe I'm just not a goodactor and or a good actress, and
so it's after time, by justgetting her to have that
confidence and to apply what shealready knew.
She already knew how to how tocommunicate because she already
knew.
She already knew how tocommunicate because she was vice
president of a company, adivision of a company, and she
was doing very well corporatelyand she was also involved in

(14:34):
different civic organizations,so she had very good
communication skills.
But the confidence about actingwasn't there.
So it was kind of like, okay,let's transform and apply that
persona or that ability that youhave and apply it to acting,
and when she was able to do that, she started booking work.

(14:59):
So is it really like a mind?

Tammy Hershberger (15:01):
shift is what you're saying.
It's more of a mind shift shehad to make.

Albert Bramante (15:05):
In that case, yes, now, because she already
had the training.
She was already involved innine or ten years in active
training, so she already had thetraining.
It wasn't that Now you stillneed training, of course, or any
skill that you're going to do,but with mindset it's like you
get out of your brain, you getout of your head and you don't

(15:31):
second guess yourself and you'dbe surprised about how, how
effective people can be whenthey get out of their head in a
sense yeah, that's huge.

Tammy Hershberger (15:36):
So you're saying so.
When you because you're dealingwith different clients, but
mostly actors it sounds like um,so you're really in the
conversation, because there'speople out there who don't even
know what coaching is.
They're like I've never heardof it.
You know, the ones I talk tosometimes are like I know what a
baseball coach is, is it likethat?
But so you're saying it'ssimilar.
You're trying to find theirnatural talent, what they're
naturally good at, and then youjust got to get their brain to

(15:56):
stop telling them they're nogood exactly it's like.

Albert Bramante (16:01):
really, what a coach does is bring out your
natural abilities, whetherthat's the athletic coach,
baseball coach helps you becomea better baseball player, or
better football coach helps youbecome a better football player,
but we've helped you becomewhether it's a mindset coach, a
performance coach is become thebest version of yourself.

Tammy Hershberger (16:21):
And can you can you kind of tell people what
that looks like?
If there's someone that'sthinking about doing something
like that and they're like Ijust am scared of what that
looks like, because for me it'sjust conversations and trying to
get them to see it, but is thatkind of similar to how you do
it?
Or?

Albert Bramante (16:34):
yeah, yeah, I mean it's.
It's.
A good coach may not precisely,um, tell you exactly what you
need to do.
It'll help.
What a good coach can do ishelp you find the answer to
yourself.
So it's like finding theanswers within that, because we

(16:55):
all have it.
If we really truly listen toyourself and get out of that,
you know, a superficial fear andchatter, we can really, you
know, we have really potentialfor greatness yeah, absolutely
but we just need to listen tothat more and so how do you,
when you're working with someoneand you've kind of started to

(17:16):
identify, you know, theseself-limiting beliefs?

Tammy Hershberger (17:18):
what does it look like that?
What do you do?
How do you reframe that so theycan then take that and operate
from strength versus self-doubt?

Albert Bramante (17:27):
well, it just remind.
I think it just reminds peoplethat they have all the answers
they need.
You know they everything thatthey really need.
It's just okay, we need to helpyou, um, peel that layer.
So it's sort of like even justasking some questions.
This is a question like what doyou really want?

(17:48):
If you could have anything inthe world, what would that look
like?
If, uh, something, if you couldwait to match up on, what would
your perfect day look like,what would your perfect thing
look like?
And then, okay, what do youneed to get there?
And so a lot of times, a goodcoach asks questions rather than
being more thorough, care and aprescriptive nature.

Tammy Hershberger (18:10):
Yeah, and in those questions it's kind of fun
.
I'm sure you've had this somany times.
But when you're talking tosomeone and you're asking those
questions, you're digging inright, making them think and
kind of process, and they kindof have that light bulb moment.
But they're like I seesomething different.
I get what you're saying.
It's registering different.

Albert Bramante (18:26):
I mean, for me that's so much, it's so
rewarding when I see thosemoments where they're like okay,
I see now where I'm missing ityeah, absolutely it's, and
that's what really, again, agood coach will help you do is
to really understand what, whatanswers you have and what and

(18:46):
what knowledge you have, and tapinto that state rather than
again directly giving you theanswer.
It's like, again, when you'rehelping a parent, helping a
child with their homework youdon't do the homework for them,
but you help them find theanswers that they need on their
own.

Tammy Hershberger (19:04):
Yeah, and I think, um, let me think about
that for a sec, cause I talkedto someone recently.
We're like, okay, I, I wasn't,they didn't know what coaching
was, and they were like Ithought maybe you were just
going to tell me what to do.
And I was like, no, that's not,it's not my job, I don't know
your path, I don't know Like wehave to dig into that and so
it's kind of fun.
Just, I mean, I've had my ownexperience with that.

(19:26):
We're like, as soon as I startto notice, okay, that's
self-sabotage.
And then later I do somethingand I, you catch it.
I mean that would be part ofyour training, right, you make
them so they start catching itfaster.
When I'm like, oh, that's,that's self-sabotage or that's
demeaning myself or that's Ijust, you know, self-sabotage
because I thought in that momentI can't apply for that because
I'm not good enough, I don'thave the experience yeah, and,

(19:51):
and sometimes when people saythat you can generally say that
well, well, who said you don'thave the experience?
that's so good.
Yes, who told you?

Albert Bramante (19:58):
and it's like who told you that exactly and
most of them they can't answerthat because nobody did, it's
their own brain down on that.
So I I think that's by askingthe right question well, you
can't, you know?
Or sometimes even justquestioning like I can't do
anything right, nothing.
You, you got up today, you wentto work, you got a job, you

(20:20):
know, you did something rightcan I ask you?

Tammy Hershberger (20:24):
a question based in psychology here.
Do you think a lot of thisself-sabotage comes from, like
past or parents or things wewere told, or is it more?
Does this stuff tend to comemore as we get older, or is
there no good answer for that?

Albert Bramante (20:38):
I I kind of don't think there's a one, one
perfect answer for that.
I think that it's a combinationthough one perfect answer for
that.
I think that it's a combination,though.
It's a combination of our ownexperience, their teachers that
we've had the negative things wewere told by, whether our

(20:58):
parents or family.
Sometimes these people can bewell-meaning, but they don't.
You know, what came out was inkind of like a negative way in a
sense, or what came out it cameout in a poor way so, but it's
really.
It does start with what we weretold.

(21:20):
You know the message that wereceived as a child growing up,
because as children, we're kindof like taught that you know our
parents and our teachers knowbest and they're the experts.
So listen to your parents,listen to your teachers.

Tammy Hershberger (21:40):
And then you kind of let that ingrain in your
heart.
Is what you're saying?
Like you've now taken that andkind of taken that as fact,
right?

Albert Bramante (21:47):
yeah, because we're told to believe that.

Tammy Hershberger (21:50):
That's fact yeah, in a sense so if someone's
listening right now and they'resaying, okay, I hear what
you're saying, and I'm startingto see like, yeah, I'm kind of
stuck, you know, I'm stuckbetween what I'm good at and
what I actually have potentialfor, what would you tell them?
How could they start aligningthat talent with their
purpose-driven work?

Albert Bramante (22:13):
Well, I would just say, as you're aligning
your talent, is to just be opento it and really just give it a
shot, because one one of thethings this is why I often
recommend people just to takeaction because once you do
something, you becomecomfortable with it and you'll

(22:34):
more easily do more of it.
So I would say the biggestthing would just to start taking
action and not idea.
So a lot of a big factor that alot of people, I think, run
into when it comes to doingstuff and taking action is they
come up with the word someday,which is not true.
There's no such word as someday.

(22:55):
Someday doesn't exist becauseit's conjecture.
So if you say, well, someday I'mgoing to do this, or someday
I'm going to create this, orsomeday I'm going to create this
, or someday I'm going to starta business, that'll never happen
Because someday again it's noton the calendar.
So the main thing is it's nottaking action, and this is where

(23:19):
a good coach can help you beaccountable.
Okay, you're saying when youknow, give me a date that you'll
at least have whatever it isset out, and you start with
bite-sized chunks, because a lotof time, when people set goals,
they set goals that are too toobig, too fast, and so that can

(23:42):
often again create thatself-doubt when you don't reach
that goal.
And it's not that that goal wasunreasonable, but the steps
could have been broken down abit more.

Tammy Hershberger (23:56):
So one of the things you know to start goal,
you know setting goals that arereasonable, small and measurable
yeah I like that um, when yousay, and measurable just means
that you need to be able totrack when I hit it or when I
accomplished it right, so thatway you can yes okay, I like

(24:18):
that.
Um, tell me about this.
So, in what is the mindset solike if?
Because I just kind of likepick myself back up again.
But if I set a goal and Imissed it, I see sometimes
people beat themselves up somuch over that that they almost
can't start again, because nowthey're in such self-defeat.
Do you have any advice for that?

Albert Bramante (24:37):
well, I think the first thing is to accomplish
that, to really celebrate thefact that, look, you did.
You already set yourself up andthat's automatically a great
thing.
You set yourself up for things,you already did that and you

(24:57):
should already be celebratingyourself for that.
So that should be really.
The first step is to reallyjust celebrate the fact that you
had that success.
You already made an effort tothat, because a lot of times,
people just, you know, don'teven start.
The fact that you started is anamazing thing and should be

(25:23):
celebrated and accomplished,because a lot of people don't
even get to that point yet wherethey don't even start, and so
one thing I often say is there'sno such thing as failure, only
feedback.
So even if it doesn't work outwhat you set out to do initially
, in the beginning, it's still alearning curve.

(25:44):
There's so much moreinformation you can learn from
that and adopt from that, andthen, therefore, that can help
you the next time that you setto do something.

Tammy Hershberger (25:56):
I really, really like that.
You said no such thing asfailure-only feedback.
If you think about the pressurethat takes off of you, because
I've had losses, I've hadbusinesses that didn't work out
or whatever, and there wasmoments where, like I almost
thought I'm such a failure, itdidn't work or the partnership
didn't work or whatever.
But then that's been a mindshift.
I've had to learn and I think alot of people do because for me

(26:24):
me I've learned that it's not ayou know, it's not a failure
it's a lesson, it's feedback,it's things that I can take and
improve and do different nexttime and if people could get
that concept, it would changetheir life absolutely.

Albert Bramante (26:30):
It will really change their life if you really
learn that and just adopt it.

Tammy Hershberger (26:36):
So so in that , then I want to wrap gratitude
into this, because I know foryou and for myself, it plays a
huge role in our work.
Um, how do you feel that?
Having gratitude, beingthankful, um, how does that look
like?
How do you get that into yourpractice every day and how do
you get that to use?
Let me rephrase that how do youuse gratitude to get you from

(26:56):
fear and out of self-criticism?
Like what is that?
How do you package that topeople?
You from fear and out ofself-criticism?
Like what is that?
How do you package that topeople?

Albert Bramante (27:02):
Well, so gratitude is just really being
thankful and appreciative forwhat you have, and that is so
important to just be thankfulfor, again, what you have and to
be appreciative of what youhave.
So be appreciative of what youhave, and it could be something

(27:25):
very tiny thing to be thankful,so a good way to get gravity
would be okay each day.
What are three things that youcan be grateful for, and whether
it's okay, I have a greatfamily.
I have pets that I love, thatlove me, you know, even the fact

(27:46):
that I'm taking action anddoing something and not letting
fear dictate me or dictate myactions.
That can be something to bethankful for too.
To be thankful for too.
So I would say, definitely say,you know, start small and be
grateful for little things inlife, because that's what really

(28:06):
, what true happiness is allabout is having gratitude.

Tammy Hershberger (28:12):
And it kind of gets you focused off what you
don't have.
I mean, my own experience withthat was, I mean, I was always
thankful, but in my businessesthat, as they were doubling and
growing, I was always thankful,but in my businesses that,
whereas they were doubling andgrowing, I can never even just
sit in the moment of like howamazing this is, that we did
this.
Right, we doubled, we tripled,whatever.
I would always have to thinklong term, and that to me is so.
It wore me out, because one I'mnot enjoying the moment of like

(28:34):
, wow, we actually just didsomething huge.
So how can you talk to peopleabout that a little bit more?

Albert Bramante (28:43):
Well, I think a lot of times we don't
appreciate we have to lose, youknow, we think that, you know,
we start to like look at, thegrass is green.
On the other side other peoplehave said I don't have and
therefore that can again limit,limit us.
So I would say just definitely,you know, take a moment of what
you have, take stock of whatyou have and just be

(29:04):
appreciative of that you know,because, again, there's so much
you already have that you don'teven know that you have.
There's so many things youdon't know that you really don't
have to think you.
There's so many things youdon't know that you, you know,
really don't have to think aboutit.
So what I would say isdefinitely take appreciation of

(29:26):
what you have and go with that.

Tammy Hershberger (29:29):
And then that will, I think, help propel you,
because you're not in thisconstant search of more.
So you're kind of content withthis expectation of like okay, I
did this, I have this, and whycouldn't I do the next step
right?
And I think mentally it's justsuch a I don't know what the
word is but it's such a betterprojection for where you're
going, because you're not justconstantly, because I feel like

(29:51):
when you're and I don't knowpsychologically what the answer
is for that but when you'realways searching for something,
I feel like there's a holesomewhere that you're trying to
fill.

Albert Bramante (30:01):
Yes, and that's a lot of times.
We focus so much on what wedon't have, or what we think we
don't have, rather than focusingon what we do have and there's
nothing more.
We're striving to do better,but a lot of times we don't take
time to even celebrate what wehave already, and so we're just

(30:23):
focusing again and what we don'thave and that kind of becomes a
search for more or differentright is what I'm hearing you
say right yeah more different.
And then you start, you and yourlife is like well, what's
what's wrong with me that Idon't?

Tammy Hershberger (30:39):
have this.
That's a good point.

Albert Bramante (30:43):
And so now again we go back into the victim
mode of I don't have this, Ican't.
You know, I was never blessedwith that, I don't have this
talent.
And and then we just don'tapply ourselves.

Tammy Hershberger (30:58):
And that's kind of when the self-sabotage
monster comes right, Becausehe's like okay, now I've gotten
myself, like you said, I don'thave this, I don't have enough,
I wasn't born with it, and thenwe just manipulate ourselves
into thinking we're not enough,and then that whole monster
starts right.

Albert Bramante (31:12):
Yeah, the not enough thing.
Yeah, absolutely, it's a bigone.
Yeah, you know that bigmountain in the cloud, that
elephant in the room that wedon't feel like we have anything
or we don't have, we don't feelwe have enough, and that can
definitely start to just lead usdown a path of you know where

(31:33):
that self-doubt comes in.

Tammy Hershberger (31:37):
Now I am curious because you have NLP and
hypnotherapyotherapy is therecan you tell me um, or share
with me a powerful internalshift or technique, using that,
of how we could get people tostop self-limiting themselves,
rewire their brain or whateverit takes to do that?

Albert Bramante (31:54):
yeah, well, I would say the first thing is
again again, looking at failureas feedback only.
And another shift, especiallyfor actors, that I found is
reframing the idea of rejection.
So a lot of, because I'll heara lot of people say I wish I
could be an actor, but I'mafraid of all the rejection.

(32:15):
So the one thing I would say iswhat if we looked at it like
there's no such thing asrejection, only a reminder that
our services are not neededtoday, and if we take that?
Because when we do that, whathappens is we don't take it
personally anymore, so it's nolonger personal, that rejection

(32:41):
is no longer personal, because alot of times people take the
no's as personal.
They take it personal I didn'tget the job, I didn't get that
and a lot of times it's notpersonal.
There's only one person thatcan get the job.
Personal, there's only oneperson that can get a job.
So I think if we look at thingsfrom that perspective of saying

(33:05):
, okay, it's not personal, it'sjust we're not needed today.
Today, that doesn't meantomorrow, that doesn't mean, you
know, in the near future, nextweek, it just means today,
because a lot of times when weget told that no, whether it's
getting a job or the near future, next week, it just means today
.
Because a lot of times when weget told that no, whether it's
getting a job or the acting role, we start to internalize and

(33:28):
start to beat ourselves up andsay, see, I know that means I'm
not talented, but it's just nottoday, it just was not this
particular opportunity.

Tammy Hershberger (33:40):
I think that is so amazing.
What you just said Reframe theidea of rejection.
Our services are not neededtoday Because, as an
entrepreneur, I have salespeople, I have to do sales, sometimes
coaching.
Whatever you're selling,whatever you're doing, that
rejection comes and that is whya lot of salesmen struggle
because they hear so muchrejection.
But I love that our servicesare not needed today.
Today, it doesn't mean thatyou're a terrible salesman, it

(34:01):
doesn't mean you're overpriced.
It just means that today, inthis moment, your services are.
I just love that.
I'm going to use that in mysales training.

Albert Bramante (34:07):
I think that's amazing and you know, because a
lot of times that I wouldimagine this you know, with a
lot of sales people, especiallythose that are really starting
out, they're so determined Ineed to make that sale but they
try too hard and therefore itwill backfire on them because

(34:29):
they're trying really too hardto get the customer to like them
or the customer to buy theproduct.
So it's kind of like having aconfidence where, yes, you want
to make the sale but at the endof the day, you know, even if
you have that framework, I don'treally need that sale at the
moment Because you make it moreabout like my product is going

(34:49):
to be helpful to you.

Tammy Hershberger (34:52):
Yeah, and I've heard it, like every yes or
, I'm sorry, every no gets youcloser to a yes, but it's never
come across like what you justsaid to me, because I watched.
I think he was 20 years old.
He came to sell window cleaningand he's like I can do it, I
want to be a salesman.
So we brought him in, gave hima shot and he struggled so much
because of the nose and then heyou know, he's not in a place at
his age to do window cleaning,it's just not valuable to him.

(35:15):
So he didn't see the value inthe price.
But and then after I thinkmaybe a month, he came back and
he was like I just can't sell, Ican't do it, I'm not good at it
.
And it's all because he stoppedbelieving in I mean, because he
came in so positive, I can doit.
And then, you know just thenose eventually turned to like I
can't do it, I don't have it,I'm not good at that.
And so I think that's you'regonna set some people free with

(35:39):
that today.

Albert Bramante (35:41):
Well, that's the great thing, If I can help
set one person free.
We can help set one person free.
That's amazing Because again,it's that we have the power, and
a lot of times again, we're ourown worst enemy.

Tammy Hershberger (36:01):
You know, our brain is sometimes our own
worst enemy.
Yeah, I also kind of this kindof goes along with that.
But, like, as entrepreneurs, wehave this pressure, especially
when you're smaller because youdon't have huge sales teams and
stuff.
But you have to figure it allout.
Right, I'm wearing a lot ofhats, I got to figure it all out
.
What do you have that you couldtell us to help us, like a
technique or something to helpreframe our mindset, where we're

(36:22):
not always second guessingourselves when we make a
decision?

Albert Bramante (36:26):
Well, I would say, you know, refer to your
training.
You already have a lot oftraining, you already have a lot
of knowledge.
So listen to yourself and youknow, if you need you know, go
network with other entrepreneurs, network with other business
people, especially in yourindustry, even though that may
be even even I'll go stepfurther even people that can be,

(36:48):
that may be your competitors.
But if you can network withthem, they can kind of tell you
again what you know, what you'redoing and what mistakes that
you.
You know, what they can helpyou like, set up a learning
curve in a sense.
So I would say, utilize thenetworks you have.

Tammy Hershberger (37:09):
And then that builds community.
So cause I would imagine I meanI kind of know for myself, but
the more people I have around methat are doing similar things
as far as you know, the businessworld or whatever, they
understand some of the struggles.
And then when I say like,because I, the business world
can be very lonely if you don'thave people around you that are
other business owners, right,because employees they go home,
they're done for the day.
I have to constantly thinkabout payroll and insurance and

(37:31):
all these things and gettingmore customers and right, it cut
that community right mentally,kind of there's got to be
something psychologicallyknowing like I'm not in this
alone.

Albert Bramante (37:41):
Yeah, and that's why, like, masterminds
are great, support networks aregreat, you know, business groups
, you know, are an amazing toolthat we should all be tapping
into Because, again, they canreally help us achieve a lot by

(38:04):
again giving us that support.
Also be like it's an alertingcurve, like you know, because
I'm not supposed to share it tothem, what works for them, what
didn't work for them, and maybethat can save somebody some time
.
So, and and again, you know,being an entrepreneur, and I
could tell you, even beingmyself being an entrepreneur, it
can be lonely, you know,because you know even if you
have employees, they're not.
They don't share the samestruggles you have.

(38:25):
You know their.
You know their job is just to.
You know do their job in thehome.
You know running a business.
Can you know one of theadvantages I'm really glad to be
an entrepreneur.
You know it's great to be one,but there's also a lot of
challenges that come with that.

Tammy Hershberger (38:45):
I have to ask you this cause you're a
psychologist.
Um, when it comes to like forme, my spouse is very involved.
We run the businesses together,but when and I've seen it in
window cleaning industry, forsure.
But there's a lot of spouses,you know they're, they're
running the home and theirfamily and the kids and they're
not real involved in thebusiness.
What would you say for themthat, like the spouse out there
that's struggling, like I'm sickof this business, my husband

(39:07):
pays all the attention to it,you know.
And then the husbands, you know, like I can't share this with
my wife because she's not goingto, she's not going to
understand, she has her ownstuff.
Do you have any advice for that, because I hear that a lot from
people who are struggling likethat.

Albert Bramante (39:20):
Well, I would say, just be open.
You know, talk to your spouse.
They may not be on this hand,but they can certainly be there
for you, be an emotionalsounding board for you, and
maybe the fact that even ifthey're not directly involved in
the business may be helpfulbecause they can give you a
third-person perspective.

(39:41):
And I think it's great the factthat you can work together,
because then you share stuff.
Not only do you share thebusiness side of things, you can
also share what each one isgoing through, so you can help
the household duties and splitthat up.
One is going through so you canhelp the household duties and
split that up.

(40:02):
But I think the main thing isjust be partners in a sense,
because that's what you are,even as my couple.
You're really partners.
So you may not necessarily knowthe technical side of the
business, but you can at leastbe offering support side of the
business.
But you can at least beoffering support and that may

(40:24):
just be, in any way possible,offering support to your partner
or whatever they need, whether,again, whether it's just an
event, whether it's just adistraction in a sense, because
a lot of times you may notunderstand what our spouse is
going through, and so that's whyone thing is not to pressure

(40:50):
them, because a lot of times Ithink the biggest thing that we
hear that I hear a lot withspouses and business people oh,
they're not around enough, youknow they're too busy.
They're not around enough, youknow they're too busy, they're
too married to their work.
Yes, and one thing that's reallyhelpful for entrepreneurs,

(41:11):
which is challenging, but weshould have the ability to turn
off a little bit from ourbusiness and de-stress, because
a lot of times, what the biggestmistake a lot of business
people do is they overworkthemselves and then they wind up
getting burnout and even somehealth challenges because they

(41:32):
don't take care of themselves.
They're too focused again ontheir work that they don't
really focus on living.
So the one thing I would say islike take some time off If you
can't take a vacation, becauseif you work for a real company
as an employee, you get vacationtime and that's for a reason,

(41:57):
and I think a lot of peopledon't don't really know how to
sometimes disconnect, and that'sreally important is the ability
to disconnect.

Tammy Hershberger (42:08):
Do you think fear plays a role in that, that
they're scared if they step backthey're going to lose customers
, they're not going to havesales, they can't trust people.
Does any of that have to dowith that?

Albert Bramante (42:16):
Yeah, well, that's what lies in
perfectionism.
Because, then you start tothink well, nobody can do the
job like I can.
And then you know a lot oftimes what entrepreneurs suffer
with I think, or even deal witha lot, and that can again speak
from experience is the lack ofdelegation, you know, not being

(42:43):
able to delegate tasks or dutiesand things, and that feeling of
I need to do everything myselfand again that's not really
helpful or healthy, or true.

Tammy Hershberger (42:56):
Yeah.

Albert Bramante (42:56):
Is that?

Tammy Hershberger (42:57):
like a form of self-sabotage.
Basically, right.

Albert Bramante (43:00):
Absolutely, because, first of all, we can
only do so much until we'regoing to burn out and therefore
you're not going to beproductive at all.
So what you're trying to workhard to produce, it's actually
now going to work hard againstyou, because you didn't listen
to the signals in your body, youdidn't be stressed.

(43:21):
Instead, you came with thementality I need to do it all,
you don't do anything, or youyou know what's up, just failing
because, again, we can only doso much.
So I think the important thingis learning to outsource and
learn to delegate, you know, andfocusing on the more important

(43:42):
things of running the business,because I looked even a lot like
the work of like Tony Robbins,and the one thing that he often
says which makes a lot of sense,is people are not business
owners and they're businessoperators.
They don't really know how toown a business.

(44:03):
They know how to operate abusiness, because really owning
a business if you think of a lotof the more successful
businesses the owners are notreally involved in the floor.
I mean, they're more behind thescenes and they have other
people running the show and thattakes a lot of trust.

(44:24):
That has to be developed too,to trust other people to help
you run the business.
So you know that goes back intothe whole idea of micromanaging
.

Tammy Hershberger (44:36):
Yeah.

Albert Bramante (44:40):
Because the one thing human beings don't like
to do is be micromanaging.
Yeah, because the one thinghuman beings don't like to do is
be micromanaged.

Tammy Hershberger (44:47):
And micromanagement is fear right,
Because you don't trust them.

Albert Bramante (44:51):
Right and people pick that up, which is
self-sabotage, because you'regoing to destroy your business
by micromanaging everybody.
And you're going to start arelationship you have with your
employees and if they're goingto become unhappy and of course
if they're unhappy, that meansyou're going to see a lot of

(45:13):
turnover rate and resignationhappening- so tell me this
really fast If someone'slistening and they're getting it
and they're like, okay, that'sme and I've got to change this,
I'm ready to take a change.

Tammy Hershberger (45:25):
What do you say to them?
How do we fix this problem?

Albert Bramante (45:29):
So take a list of all your duties that you do
every day, maybe log in for aweek what you do, and then take
a list and say can somebody elsedo this, can I outsource this?
And most of the time themundane administrative,
automated stuff can be done byother people and that's when you

(45:54):
start delegating that.
So this way you can thenfocusing on the most important
thing building the business andso you have somebody else
handling that, theadministrative and the routine
stuff, and you're focusing onbuilding and expanding the
business.
Like for me, I have you, youknow, with Vermont Artists.

(46:17):
I have an assistant who handlesthe administrative work and
social media, because I don'thave time to do that, but I know
.
I want to have an active socialmedia presence for Vermont
Artists.
So therefore I delegate and youknow, and she's doing a much

(46:40):
better job than I would havedone, and I can admit that
Because she loves social media.
So I think giving people tasksthat they you know, giving away
your delegating path, is soimportant, but letting that
control go, which can bechallenging.
But that's the important thingis really learning to give up

(47:06):
that control.

Tammy Hershberger (47:08):
And then what are you mentally telling
yourself to stay out of thedoubt of?
Like, okay, I gave it, but Idon't want to go back and get it
, but I can't do that.
Like what is?
Do you have anything to say tothat?

Albert Bramante (47:18):
Well, I would say, just trust the process, let
it go and then, even if youdelegated the person's not
performing well, well, work withthat person, give them that
coaching, give them thatinstruction, talk to them, be
clear in your expectations ofwhat you want.

Tammy Hershberger (47:37):
So, having those open conversations, but it
you know, at the end of the day, it's just about trusting
yourself and then not lettingthat fear of like blowing it out
of proportion, like okay, worstcase, they mess it up and a
post goes out wrong or postdoesn't go or most things can be
fixed, because I think we werelike, oh, if they win that

(47:58):
belief of no one else can do itas good as me, we blow it up
into the thing of like it'sgonna destroy my business and
I'm like it's one thing, it'snot gonna, you know, unless they
burnt your building down,you're gonna be okay you're
gonna be fine and okay.

Albert Bramante (48:11):
So it's, it's one thing that was made a
mistake.
So then you have you talk toyour person's doing your social
media and say we cannot reallyrepeat this.
You could take it down and say,okay, the next time, this is
what should be done differently.
Give that feedback.
And it's not the end of theworld.

(48:32):
And a lot of people, I think,when they make mistakes, it's
like they blow it out ofproportion again, like, oh, I
failed.
No, we're all going to makemistakes, every one of us.
I can tell you I've made a lotof mistakes and I'm going to
make mistakes in the future.
So you know, and just trustingthe process is really the key,

(48:55):
you know, and just I think alsolearning to let go is really
what's going to be the importantthing.
To be able to delegate is justlearning to let go of that
control.
You know it's still yourbusiness, but you're just
letting somebody else do thetask.
That can free up your schedulea bit.

Tammy Hershberger (49:18):
Yeah, that's where the real growth is going
to happen.
When you stop, you work on top,you know high level stuff that,
like you're, the people indifferent positions below you
cannot do because you kind ofbecome the bottleneck.
If you can't let go of stuff, Imean it's just going to happen
your business is going to stay acertain size because you can't
grow yeah, and a lot of peoplewhat they don't really say I

(49:39):
want to find bottleneck.

Albert Bramante (49:41):
What's very often true is that there's a
bottleneck.
It's not other factors, it'syou that's a bottleneck.

Tammy Hershberger (49:53):
And that's driven by fear, which is
self-sabotage, because you'redoubting, you're not trusting.
It's interesting how it allwraps back together.
Yeah, and if you notice thething that keeps?

Albert Bramante (50:00):
coming up here is self-sabotage, because you
don't, you're doubting, you'renot trusting.
It's interesting how it allwraps back together, yeah, and
and if you notice, the thingthat keeps coming up here is
self-sabotage.
So it's and the thing aboutwhat self-sabotage is very
sneaky again, we don't realizewe're doing.
It becomes so sneaky that wedon't even realize it's
happening.

Tammy Hershberger (50:25):
I have to ask you this because you're like me
you're a bookworm.
You like to read and learn.
Is there anything recently thatyou've gotten some new
revelation on that?
You're like I've never in allmy years caught that or anything
you can share with us.

Albert Bramante (50:38):
Well, I'm reading a book now called Smart
Productivity it's actuallycalled Feel Good Productivity by
Ali Abdaal, and it's reallyabout one of the things that
makes sense.
And you know, I can't reallysay it's a surprising revelation
.
But it makes sense and you know, I don't know, can't really say

(50:58):
it's a surprising revelation,but it makes it this thing that
there's a difference betweenbeing being busy and being
productive, because we can bevery, you know, people can be
very busy, but that doesn't meanthat they're going to be
successful or productive.
And also the book kind of talksabout which makes so perfect

(51:21):
sense is to have fun.
You know, even when you'redoing work, try to find some fun
in it, because then it'll makeit interesting, and that's a
revelation too.
Like this doesn't have to betedious, we can learn to enjoy
it too too well, I think that'spart of the fun of people that

(51:43):
are entrepreneurs.

Tammy Hershberger (51:44):
Um, we like to do our own thing.
We don't really like to it'snot the right word to say be
bossed around, but like we kindof want to blaze our own path,
if you will.
And that's what.
For so long, I was in such acrazy situation with all these
businesses and burnout and Ijust wasn't.
I was so miserable, I wasn'tenjoying.
I mean, thankfully I didn'ttake it out on my people, but I
took it out on myself and I wasso miserable, I was not having

(52:05):
any fun.
And I've gotten that all fixedup and cleaned up and I'm
working through it and I'm I'mloving life right.
I love the podcast, I'm lovingmy businesses.
I come in with a smile on myface and I think life's so short
to be so serious.
And so you know, in this tightbox all the time, Absolutely.

Albert Bramante (52:23):
That's the biggest thing too is just having
fun while you're doing it,because, again, if you're not
having fun it's not worth it.
You know, it's not worthstressing out over it, because
life is short.

Tammy Hershberger (52:33):
Yeah Well, we're close to the end here.
I have a question Do you have,can you give one more?
I mean, you've already gave usa ton here, but can you give us
one more mindset shift todaythat we could use to overcome
fear, self-doubt, and what wouldthat be?
What's your final takeaway forpeople listening?

Albert Bramante (52:52):
So this is more of a language shift.
So one thing you could say is,instead of saying you know what
you haven't done, I would usethe powerful three-letter word
that I would use is yet.
So when people say I haven'tdone this, you know it should be

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replaced you haven't done thisyet, so you know, I haven't made
sales, I haven't made sales, Ihaven't made sales yet.
Or I haven't, you know, madesix.
I haven't made six three yearsyet.

Tammy Hershberger (53:25):
Because when you say the word yet, it opens
yourself up the possibility andit's not so final right is what
you're saying, because like it'snot, like it's in the past,
it's done right there's, it'snot like it's in the past.

Albert Bramante (53:41):
It's done Right , it's not final.
And then sometimes again itwould be like well, if somebody
says it's final, I would say andwho said that?
Who told you it's final?
And again, most of the timethey're not going to answer that
Because that's a script they'rerunning in their head.

Tammy Hershberger (54:04):
You just set me free with that, because I
have these things that I'm likethis didn't work, that didn't
work.
It's not final, it's not doneyet, or maybe something hasn't
quite materialized the way Iwant it to, but it's not done
yet.
I love that yeah.

Albert Bramante (54:17):
It's just yet, that doesn't mean yeah, it's
just yet, that doesn't mean it'snot gonna get, it's just not
yet.
So if we start reading thatframework of yet and adding that
at the end, yet and also onelast thing I would say, another
language hack that we can use is, instead of saying I have to do
this, say I get to do thisbecause a lot of people say,

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well, I have to go to work today.
I get to do this Because a lotof people say, well, I have to
go to work today.
No, you get to go to work today.
Or I have to run this for mybusiness.
No, you get to do this for yourbusiness.
So that makes it more excitingwhen you say I get to do this
Because again, it's all aboutyour success in a sense, and
again it's more empowering.

(55:01):
And you're bringing gratitudeinto it, correct?
Yes, because you get to do it.
It's so exciting.
Look what you get to do.
You get up.
You get to run your business.
You get up.
You get to help so many peopleenjoy it.
You get to do this.
You don't have to do it.
You get to do it, it's kind oflike cleaning the house.

Tammy Hershberger (55:17):
So instead of me saying I have to clean the
house, I get to do it.
It's kind of like cleaning thehouse.
So instead of me saying I haveto clean the house, I get to and
I'm thankful for that because Ihave a nice home to clean, or
god provided a home, or whateveryou have a roof over your head.

Albert Bramante (55:27):
You have a roof over your head to clean, so you
get to clean it.
That should be great I lovethat.

Tammy Hershberger (55:35):
Um.
Can you tell my listeners onefor your book?
Um, rise above the script andthen all your other businesses.
How do we get a hold of you?
How do we find you?
Where do we get your book?

Albert Bramante (55:44):
Well, you can find my book on Amazon.
It's called Rise Above theScript Confirming Self-Doubt and
Mastering Self-Sabotage forPerforming Artists.
It's available.
I have it available as atextbook, paperback, ebook and
audiobook, so I would definitelylook for that.

(56:06):
You can also go to my website,albertpermonticom.
I'm also on LinkedIn, so youcan find me under Albert
Permonti and I'd love to connect.

Tammy Hershberger (56:17):
Yeah, I thank you so much, Albert, for coming
on here and talking to us.

Albert Bramante (56:21):
Thank you again , Tammy.

Tammy Hershberger (56:22):
It was a blessing.
I wish you tons of blessingsand I know there's going to be
great things for you.
Thank you all for listening.
I hope you go out and get hisbook, get his website and see
what he's doing, becauseAlbert's got some good stuff
here.
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