April 30, 2025 • 33 mins
What if your skin isn’t “acting up”, it’s just trying to tell you something?
In this episode, Dr. Jen Haley introduces the concept of skin syncing—a simple but powerful way to care for your skin by paying attention to your body’s natural rhythms. From using protective ingredients in the morning to focusing on renewal at night, this approach helps your routine actually work with your skin, not against it.
You’ll hear how your skincare needs shift during your cycle, why seasons and climate matter more than you think, and how small adjustments can lead to big, lasting results.
Say goodbye to one-size-fits-all routines and start giving your skin what it really needs, when it needs it.
Listen now and learn how to sync up for your healthiest skin yet.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Listen to your Skin by Moon and Skin, the
podcast where science meetsnature to celebrate the story of
your skin.
Your skin is a living canvas,ever evolving, deeply personal
and uniquely yours.
Each week, we'll dive into thescience of healthy skin, share
empowering stories and uncovertransformative self-care rituals
.
We're here to help you embraceevery phase of your journey with
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confidence and care.
Hi everyone, welcome to thisweek's episode of Listen to your
Skin by Moon and Skin, and I'myour host, dr Jen Haley, and
this week we are going to talkabout something that I'm very
passionate about.
It is called skin sinking, andthere are four main components
to skin sinking.
The first is rotating yourskincare with your circadian
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cycle, so we're going to want touse different skincare in the
morning than we use in theevening.
The second is adjusting yourskincare with your infradian
cycle, or your monthly cycle, so, as our hormones shift
throughout the month, our skin'sneeds are going to shift
throughout the month, and we'regoing to want to work with our
natural cycles in our body andtreat our skin differently
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during those times.
The third component ismodifying our skincare with the
seasons, so we might have a skintype and our skin type will be
adjusted with the seasonalchanges.
So during the summer we willhave different skin type than we
will in the winter, and we'regoing to want to adjust our
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skincare regimen to suitnature's cycles.
And then the fourth step isthat we will have different skin
at different ages of our life.
Our teen age years is going torequire different skincare needs
than during our 20s, 30s, 40s,50s and beyond.
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So these are the four maincomponents of the skin-syncing
method and we're gonna dive intothat a little bit today and the
main goal is to work with thenatural rhythms of nature and of
your body, your unique body, sothat we can optimally support
the skin to be its healthiestand most vibrant.
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So we don't really want to lookat what everybody's using out
there and the biggest trends andmake them our own.
We will consider them and thenmake them our own, but we will
always attune and be intuitivewith what our skin needs,
because it's going to bedifferent from what everybody
else needs out there.
So this is something that Ialways want you to remember.
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So what I'm giving you ineverything I do is a guide.
It's a guide and at the end ofthe day, you need to listen to
your skin, because when youlisten to your own body, you
will know what you need.
Okay, so let's get started.
I want you to think about yourskincare as a diet.
So, first and foremost, we wantto nourish our body from the
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inside out.
We really want to nourish ourbody from the inside out because
your skin is an organ just likeall the other organs.
It's the largest, most visibleorgan and it represents the
health of all the other organson the inside of our body.
So, more importantly thanskincare is actually taking care
of yourself from the inside outwith rest, exercise, good
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nutrition.
Nutrition and food are messages.
They are messages that tell ourcells whether to go in a good
direction or a bad direction.
Basically, through the processof epigenetics, what genes get
turned on and what genes getturned off is dependent on the
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foods that we decide to takeinto our body.
And if you look at nutrition,you can say that broccoli, for
instance, is healthy, salmon,wild Alaskan salmon is healthy.
Yet if you only have broccoliand wild Alaskan salmon for
every single meal, morning, noonand night, through every season
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of the year, you will not bewell fortified.
You will not meet yournutritional requirements.
So those might be particularlyhealthy foods, yet they are not
giving you everything that youneed in your nutritional
requirements in order to makeyou optimally healthy.
The same holds true with skincare.
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I want you to look at skin careas nourishing your skin from
the outside in.
So, while it's essential totake care of yourself from the
inside out, we also want tonourish our skin from the
outside in, and if you're usingthe same thing all of the time,
you are not going to be fillingin all of the nutritional gaps
that you need to do.
So remember this.
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Okay, something might be goodfor a season of your life, it
might be good for a season ofthe year, it might be good for a
certain time, but it's notalways going to be the right
thing for you, so keep that inmind.
Basically, the first thing Iwant you to do is think about
the natural rhythms of the day.
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So during the day, we, as soonas our body hits sunlight or any
light for that matter ourphotoreceptors, and we have
photoreceptors not only in oureyes, but we also have
photoreceptors in our skin.
That's why it's essential tosleep in darkness, because when
the room is completely dark,your body knows it's in the rest
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and regenerative phase as soonas our bodies, our eyes and our
skin hit light.
Even a little piece of yourskin slipping out of the sheets
at bed at night, exposed tolight, will confuse your
circadian clock and your bodywill start thinking that it is
daylight out.
So you get up in the morningand you hit sunlight and you go
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outside and see the sunrise.
Your skin gets exposed to thesun, your eyes get exposed to
the sun.
Bam, your body knows that it isin a protective mode.
All of the enzymes, all of themessages, all of the enzymatic
processes in our body understandthat it is in protective mode.
It's time to protect your bodyfrom the outside world.
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So what do we do for our skincare in the morning?
First, we want to cleanse.
We always want to cleanse.
So you cleanse in the morning.
Why we want to cleanse?
We always want to cleanse, soyou cleanse in the morning.
Why you just cleansed at night?
You cleanse in the morningbecause overnight our skin is a
major detox organ and as ourmetabolism is running, as our
body is renewing itself, it isextruding metabolic waste
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products.
It's extruding maybe some heavymetals, some other toxins out
of our pores overnight.
So we want to cleanse in themorning to remove all of all of
those things that were extrudedout of the pores overnight.
And for me I'll use a cleanserand I tend to be a little oily.
So then I'll use a toner on anexfoliating round and I will see
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a fair amount of dirt on thatexfoliating round that I did not
see the night before.
So that's what came out of mypores overnight.
It just kind of depends howmuch sushi did I have?
How much smog was I exposed tothe day before?
What else is going on?
It will determine how much dirtwas extruded out of the pores
overnight.
So we cleanse.
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We always cleanse first to prepthe skin toner plus or minus,
depending on your skin type andthen you want to apply a vitamin
c product with ferulic acid ifpossible, because that will help
the vitamin c to become morestable.
Now there's different types ofvitamin C products and most of
the vitamin C products willconvert into L-ascorbic acid
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eventually in the skin, which isthe active form.
The problem with applying anL-ascorbic acid serum to your
skin is it's very volatile.
So while it's active in vitroin the lab, when it's put into a
formulation in a bottle.
It's often inactivated veryquickly and it can turn usually
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orange and then brown when it'sexposed to heat, oxygen and
sunlight.
So those are hard things toavoid, right?
So there's different forms ofvitamin C.
There's THD ascorbate andthere's sodium ascorbyl
phosphate.
Sodium ascorbyl phosphate isthe form of vitamin C that Moon
and Skin has chosen to put intheir formulation, and I like
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this form of vitamin C becauseit's great for sensitive skin,
it's the least likely to causeirritation and it's also great
for acne-prone skin.
So one of the complaints thatI've seen over the years is
People with acne tend to getworsened acne and breakouts with
vitamin C products.
That's usually due to theL-ascorbic acid form.
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So if you are prone to acne andhave an intolerance of vitamin
C, I want you to look for a formthat contains THD ascorbate or
sodium ascorbyl phosphate, andthis will be less likely to be a
problem for you.
Okay, so after your vitamin Ccompletely dries and is absorbed
into the skin, then the nextstep is to apply a moisturizer.
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So even if you're prone to acne, use an oil-free moisturizer,
something with hyaluronic acid,to help hydrate and protect the
skin.
So we want to prep and then wewant to protect the skin
Moisturizer, let it dry, andthen your sunscreen Always,
always, always, spf 30 or highercontaining zinc oxide.
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I'm not one to wear much makeup, so I use tinted sunscreen,
because tinted sunscreencontains iron oxide and is great
for helping with pigmentaryissues.
And I like to wear my sunscreenface, neck, chest, sweep, the
back of your hands every singleday before leaving the house,
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for not only UV radiation but alot of incidental sunlight.
So we get UVA radiation throughthe windows of the car when
we're driving, through thewindow of our offices.
Each of us is walking outside,even in the winter months.
If you live in Colorado orMichigan or Chicago, somewhere
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cold, your face is gettingexposed to the sun for at least
10 minutes walking to and fromthe car every single day.
Well, what does that add up to?
More than 50 hours a year.
So 10 minutes a day adds up toat least 50 hours a year of
getting sun exposure to thesehigh-value areas that are going
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to show our age over 20, 30, 40years.
Over 20, 30, 40 years andwearing an SPF 30 or higher with
zinc oxide every single daybefore leaving the house is
going to help protect theseareas from showing their wear
and tear over time.
This is our morning routine thatis working with our circadian
clock when it is in theprotective phase.
Now, in the evening, when thelights go down, our body starts
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producing melatonin.
Our body now is in a renewalphase renewal and recovery.
There is such a thing as beautysleep.
We need rest, recovery, sleepin order to renew, and basically
what we're doing here is we aregiving our body the tools to
renew and regenerate just bygetting out of its way.
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That's what we want to do.
We want to support our skin todo what it wants to do.
Naturally, what we do at nightis we cleanse.
We cleanse.
You can do a double cleanse ifyou wear quite a bit of makeup,
where you use an oil-basedcleanser maybe micellar water,
to remove your eye makeup, andthen an active cleanser,
something that is gentle yeteffective.
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So we don't want to havestripped skin.
We don't want to have taut skinwhen we, when we cleanse, we
want to use a cleanser that weapply to the skin for two full
minutes after removing makeup,where the cleanser can penetrate
and actually remove dead skincells and remove any dirt and
debris and basically prep theskin to absorb the actives.
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So an effective cleanser willnot strip your skin of its
natural oils and it will alsonot leave residual dirt on the
skin afterwards.
So if you like to use a toneror I use another product called
AO2 clear that is hyperoxygenated water, and I can see
on the cotton pad, whether I usea toner or the AO2 clear, that
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there is no residual dirtafterwards.
And you should not see residualdirt if you have an effective
cleanser.
So we cleanse, let the skin dryand then apply a retinol.
So retinol it's not a sexy thing.
It's been around since the1970s and it's the most
scientifically studiedingredient in all of skincare.
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So retinol can help unplugpores.
It can help to enhance cellturnover, which we want.
We want fresh skin cells torenew and turn over.
It can help lift offpigmentation.
It can help stimulate collagenand it can help reverse some sun
damage.
So these are all wonderfulthings.
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The issue that we have withretinol is that oftentimes
people will use too much of itor too strong and that lifting
off and separation of dead skincells can happen too quickly and
it can make your skin lookreally dry and irritated.
So we don't want that.
You can get benefits fromretinol without going that way.
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So when you're first starting aretinol you want to start using
it.
Maybe three times a week isenough, just to get your skin
acclimated to it.
So I have people take apea-sized amount, apply it to
your forehead, cheek, othercheek, chin and your chest and
then rub it in.
Avoid letting it sit in thecreases around your eyes, nose,
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corners of the mouth or thecrease of your neck where at
night you sleep and it can kindof pool in those areas and
become more irritated.
So that's the key with retinolthree times a week, small amount
.
It works through cell signalingso you don't need complete
contact like you do with amoisturizer.
Trust the science because itworks through nuclear receptors
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in the cells and self signalingdoesn't need to have complete
coverage.
More than a pea-sized amount isonly going to be more
irritating and not necessarilymore effective.
And with the retinol you juststart slow and you start low and
you go slow.
And the moon and skin, thefolks at moon and skin, created
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a liposomal technology of theretinol, which I really like.
Because the liposomaltechnology of the retinol which
I really like?
Because the liposomaltechnology allows the retinol to
penetrate the bilipid membranein the skin and get to where it
needs to be, in the nuclearreceptors, without causing
irritation to the epidermis liketraditional retinols where
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you're getting all of thepeeling and the redness and the
scaling of your skin.
So start three times a week.
If you're having no irritationafter about two weeks, increase
to four times a week.
No irritation in another weekor two, go to five times a week
and gently go until you can getto every single night and that's
how I like to initiate retinol.
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After your retinol, you want tomoisturize.
So moisturization, if you'resomeone who's a little bit oily
and you don't like to moisturizeduring the day, you definitely
need to moisturize at nightbecause we have more trans
epidermal water loss.
There's more evaporation andloss of moisture from the skin
at night.
So we definitely need to, likethe women in the 1950s, packed
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on the cold cream.
They were smart.
That's what we need to do.
We need to put more moisturizeron our face at night, because
we are working with ourcircadian clock.
So don't forget your eyesaround your eyelids and don't
forget your neck and your chest,whatever's left in your hands
when you're using your skincareregimen.
Sweep the back of your hands,because we want our hands to age
the same rate as the rest ofour face, which is slow.
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We want all to age slowly.
So that's it for night.
You really need three steps inthe morning and three steps at
night.
This is your basic skin careregimen that everyone can do.
Now if you're targetingpigmentation or acne, we can add
in a separate serum for thoseand we will discuss that on
future episodes.
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So this is phase one of yourskin sinking program.
Now phase two is working withthe infradian cycle.
So phase one is working withthe circadian cycle, morning and
night.
Phase two is working with yourinfradian cycle, so the
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infradian rhythm.
It's a 28 day biological cycle.
Now every woman does not have a28 day menstrual cycle.
There's many variations inthere, from 25 days to 35 days,
and you know your body best,right?
So 28 days is a rough estimate.
So it's a 28-day biologicalcycle and it affects many
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systems in a woman, not just ourreproductive organs.
It affects our athleticperformance, we know.
It affects our mood.
It affects our skin.
So not much is talked aboutwith how the infradian cycle
affects your skin, but it does.
And now just say you'repost-menopausal and you're like
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I don't need to pay attention tothe infradian cycle?
You might not.
If you're perimenopausal, it'smore difficult to predict what
your hormones are, because theycan be up and down and all over
the place.
If you're post-menopausal, youcan choose to follow the cycle
of the moon or you may be on aconsistent program of
supplemental hormonal therapywhere your hormones are
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consistent and then you do notneed to follow an infradian
rhythm cycle of your skincare.
But if you are someone who doescycle cycle, if you do have a
menstrual cycle in any manner,then you should pay attention to
how to sync your skin care withyour infradian cycle.
So let's just dive into exactlywhat happens during this month.
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Okay, day one of your menstrualcycle, of your infradian rhythm,
is the day you bleed.
So day one is the day you bleedand during the first week of
your menstrual cycle, estrogenand progesterone in the body are
at its lowest.
It's at the lowest and yourskin is most likely to be dry
and sensitive.
So that first week of yourperiod is when your skin is the
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driest and the most sensitive ofthe entire menstrual cycle.
So what are the recommendations?
How should you adjustaccordingly to work with your
Natural rhythm, because we wantto work with our own bodies.
We don't want to work againstour bodies.
So first, change to a gentlecleanser.
Make sure your cleanser isreally gentle.
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Possibly in the morning youonly use water and at night you
use your cleanser to removemakeup.
If you could tolerate thegentle cleanser twice a day, I
definitely recommend continuingto do that.
Secondly, you want to cut outthe toner the first week.
So avoid toner or anyexfoliants or anything that is
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going to be harsh and cause moreirritation and dryness of your
skin.
Just be sensitive to the factthat your skin is going to be
more dry and sensitive duringthis week.
It's not because you're doinganything wrong, because what you
were doing the week before wasperfectly fine.
Yet the inside of your body haschanged, your hormones have
changed and your skin is goingto change accordingly.
So we're really looking atgentle cleansing.
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Avoid toners, avoidingexfoliation.
During this first week of yourinfradian rhythm, you may find
that you have to reduce yourretinol back down to three times
a week, and that's okay becauseyou're still going to get
benefits from it.
You may find that you need toadd more moisturizer, and one of
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the tricks that I often havepeople do with retinol is to do
the sandwich technique totolerate it.
You apply a moisturizer first,then you apply your retinol and
then you apply another layer ofmoisturizer, and this is
something you can do to toleratemoisturizer.
Or this is something that youcan do during the first week of
your infradian rhythm.
You may be someone who normallyonly needs to use moisturizer
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at night, and now you need to doit twice a day during this
first week of your menstrualcycle.
And then, if you have noticedthat your skin is more sensitive
, look for a product that hasingredients containing
niacinamide.
So niacinamide is vitamin B3,and it's very calming to the
skin.
It's very anti-inflammatory.
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And then the last recommendationI have for you during the first
week, if you're dry andsensitive, is you can look to
add a sheet mask to boosthydration to your skin.
So take some time for yourselfand apply a sheet mask for about
15 minutes at night to boosthydration to your skin.
So take some time for yourselfand apply a sheet mask for about
15 minutes at night to boosthydration and just see if it
feels good.
We're always trying to balancecost with effectiveness, so you
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know the cost for a sheet maskis a little bit higher, but it
can come in handy during thistime of the month.
So that's week one.
Now week two is the follicularphase.
It's the beginning of thefollicular phase and that's when
your estrogen starts to riseand your skin starts to glow.
Estrogen is our friend.
Your skin's going to becomemore resilient and less
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sensitive, so estrogen iscollagen promoting.
So you'll notice that your skinis more supple and more glowing
.
During the second week, it'sreally a good time where you can
just get back to your coreregimen.
You can add in some alphahydroxy, beta hydroxy acid and
some more exfoliants at thattime.
You can definitely bump up yourretinol to every night during
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that second week and adjust themoisturizer as needed.
One to two times a day.
Listen to your skin.
I'm going to tell you athousand times to listen to your
skin, because that's reallywhat ultimately you need to do.
So I will always give youguidance and tried and true
things that we know.
And then you adjust accordingly, just like if you had a meal in
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front of you.
Like, the amount that you eatis not going to be the same
amount that a football playereats.
Right, we adjust based on whatour body needs and that is what
my goal here is to teach you toeventually do is to just become
so attuned with what your skinneeds.
You know the answers, okay, sothat's the second week.
We are bumping up the retinolto every night again.
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Where we tolerate, we are amoisturizer one to two times a
day, based on what we need, andyou can add back in your
exfoliators.
Week three is ovulation, andthis is when you're fertile.
You're going to be at your mostattractive.
This is nature.
Make more money during the weekthat they are fertile than
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women who are not cycling, whoare in birth control and women
who are not in their ovulatorywindow.
There's much more to it thaneven hormones, but overall, we
know that because your hormonesare peaking during ovulation,
you are naturally at your mostattractive and your skin's also
going to be at the best withthis week, because the skin is a
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sign of fertility.
Healthy skin, healthy hair is asign of fertility and
attraction.
It's deep seated in ourevolutionary roots.
So recommendations for this weekare just cruise control.
Basically, maintain yourroutine from week two.
Your skin's going to tolerateexfoliation more this week.
It's a great week to experiment, try new things.
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It's a great week to getprocedures, because your skin's
going to heal better, becauseyour estrogen is going to be
more at the ready to producefresh collagen to help heal, and
it's just a great time toundergo any procedure if you
want to do laser ormicroneedling or chemical peels,
anything like that.
So collagen remodeling isreally supported.
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Otherwise, just do cruisecontrol with your skincare
routine.
Maybe try that latest trendthat you've wanted to try.
Don't expect it to work therest of your cycle, though, okay
.
So week four is now your lutealphase, and this is when
progesterone rises and this isoften when the PMS symptoms
happen and you can experiencemore oil production and even
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more breakouts during this week.
So I have seen a lot of womenin their twenties, thirties,
forties and even fifties thatare experiencing the jaw
hormonal acne, which I'm goingto do a deep dive discussing and
this is usually the time of themonth that it happens, okay,
when that progesterone rises andthere's more oil.
So if you notice that you'reone of those people that even if
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you don't break out, you stillmight have more oily complexion,
you want to focus on clarifyingproducts during this time of
the month.
So clarifying productstypically will contain salicylic
acid, and you can look forthese in the form of a cleanser
or a toner or even a treatmentmask, and I like salicylic acid
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so much for this reason, becausesalicylic acid is drawn to oil,
so it's an acid that is drawnto oil as opposed to water, so
some acids are drawn to water.
Salicylic acid is drawn to oiland the oil glands are holding
on to dead skin cells, which iswhat's making the pores look
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larger, which is also onecomponent of what causes acne.
So we want to selectivelyremove those extra skin cells
and oil that's leading to acneand breakouts, and salicylic
acid is a good way to do that.
Other things that you can do ifyou're noticing that you're more
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oily and acne prone during theluteal phase is to skip your
morning moisturizer and onlymoisturize at night.
You must need moisturizer atnight because that's when you
have so much transepidermalwater loss.
You really need to moisturizeat night, otherwise you're going
to get over dry skin and evenmore clogged pores, which we
don't want.
So you may need to just skipthe morning moisturizer or apply
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it only to the periphery of theface and your neck and your
chest and skip the T zone whereyou tend to be more oily, and
then, if you're not using avitamin C that contains sodium,
ascorbyl phosphate, you may wantto skip your vitamin C during
this time of the month, becausesome vitamin C's containing
L-ascorbic acid can make youmore prone to acne breakouts.
So basically, by working withyour body's natural infradian
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cycle, you're going to optimizeyour skincare routine and you're
going to understand why yourskin changes throughout the
month.
This is just a normal cycle.
It's a rhythm that our bodyundergoes every month, so we're
going to support it through allof the phases of your monthly
cycle.
That's it for the infradiancycle.
Now the third phase of the skinsinking program is to cycle with
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the seasons, and our body is sodynamic it's forever changing.
It's not static, so we do notwant to treat it the same all
the time.
We need to work with mothernature.
For instance, if it's winter,it's going to be drier and your
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skin type is going to change.
It might change from normal todry.
If it's oily, it might changeto normal, and the opposite
holds true in the summer.
The other thing, which I'lldiscuss in a deeper dive in a in
a different episode where wediscuss changing with the
seasons, is that, depending onwhere you live, your skin is
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going to change.
So I've lived a lot of places.
I've lived in New York,washington DC, dc, hawaii,
california, arizona, the RockyMountains in Utah and Colorado
and my skin has been differentin all of those places.
So your skin is going to bedifferent in different places.
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If you live in Dallas, texas,for instance, you're going to
have more moisture than if youlive in Arizona.
It's just a fact.
So these are little nuancesthat I want you all to
understand, because we live in aplace where there's a lot of
moving around, there's a lot oftraveling and there's a lot of
dynamic things.
So our body basically is italways wants to reach
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homeostasis.
So my body is interacting withthe outside world right now
trying to reach homeostasis.
So my body is interacting withthe outside world right now
trying to reach homeostasis.
So, for instance, I woke up inArizona this morning.
I am in San Diego right now.
I can feel so much more plumpmoisture in my skin than it was
this morning because the air hasmore humidity in it.
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And vice versa is true.
If you are in the winter monthsand you turn the heat on in the
house, the heat drains thehumidity in the house and now
your skin is interacting withthe environment.
That's really dry.
So a few months ago your skinmight have been normal and now
it's super dry because of theparched air in the environment.
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We are evaporating moisture fromour skin, so there's little
tips and tricks that we can dothrough the seasons to help
maintain moisture in our skinwithout causing any breakouts.
The other reason that I like toaddress skin changes through
the seasons is that our skintakes about six to 12 weeks,
depending on our age, to getfrom the bottom layer of the
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skin to the top layer of theskin.
So when I grab my skin here,basically in the deep layers of
my skin, there might be pimplesthere, there's all sorts of
things going on and I have towait for six to 12 weeks for the
skin to cycle through.
So I like people to reallystick with one skincare regimen
for about one season and then,with every season change, we
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Reassess our skincare and weadjust it.
Small modifications over timecan make a big difference.
It's the compound effect.
So you know, if I walk one milea day, at the end of the year
I've walked 50 miles.
I wouldn't have walked withoutwalking one mile a day.
If I eat one cookie a day, bythe end of the year I've walked
50 miles.
I wouldn't have walked withoutwalking one mile a day.
If I eat one cookie a day, bythe end of the year I'm going to
be 15 pounds heavier than if Ididn't eat that one cookie.
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If I save ten dollars a week,I'll be a millionaire by the
time I'm 60, right?
So little things over time canmake a huge difference, and the
same holds true with your skin.
If you implement something withevery season and make small
little adjustments, it can makea huge difference.
And the same holds true withyour skin.
If you implement something withevery season and make small
little adjustments, it can makea dramatic difference over time.
And that's what we're reallytrying to do here.
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We're trying to adjust thingsand give it enough time to work,
to work with our naturalcycling of our skin.
Collagen also takes about threemonths to form.
If you do anything to stimulatecollagen, whether it's
microneedling or a laser, itwill take about 12 weeks to see
full effect.
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Our goal is to work with nature, the natural cycle of our body,
the environment around us, andnot confuse our skin.
And this takes patience anddeliberate action.
And then the fourth phase of theskin sinking program is how to
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adjust our skincare during thedifferent seasons of our life.
So when you're a teenager, yourskin is going to be so much
different than when you're inyour 20s and even in your 30s,
and then 40s, 50s and beyond.
So I will discuss these detailsin a future episode about how
to change your skincare throughthe different seasons of life,
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because I want you to learn howto nourish your skin through
each decade so that you can havemaximum benefits.
We're always thinking ahead,but also addressing our concerns
at the time here.
So I want to thank you forbeing here today with me.
Please, please, please, keepsending questions.
I have an episode I'm going torecord answering your questions.
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I'll get to every single one ofthem slowly but surely.
So hit us up at moon and skin,on Instagram, tik TOK, on the
website, all the platforms.
We are here to serve you andsupport you through your
skincare journey, no matter whatyour age, no matter where you
are in life.
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Welcome to Listen to your Skin by Moon and Skin, the
podcast where science meetsnature to celebrate the story of
your skin.
Your skin is a living canvas,ever evolving, deeply personal
and uniquely yours.
Each week, we'll dive into thescience of healthy skin, share
empowering stories and uncovertransformative self-care rituals
.
We're here to help you embraceevery phase of your journey with
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confidence and care.
Hi everyone, welcome to thisweek's episode of Listen to your
Skin by Moon and Skin, and I'myour host, dr Jen Haley, and
this week we are going to talkabout something that I'm very
passionate about.
It is called skin sinking, andthere are four main components
to skin sinking.
The first is rotating yourskincare with your circadian
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cycle, so we're going to want touse different skincare in the
morning than we use in theevening.
The second is adjusting yourskincare with your infradian
cycle, or your monthly cycle, so, as our hormones shift
throughout the month, our skin'sneeds are going to shift
throughout the month, and we'regoing to want to work with our
natural cycles in our body andtreat our skin differently
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during those times.
The third component ismodifying our skincare with the
seasons, so we might have a skintype and our skin type will be
adjusted with the seasonalchanges.
So during the summer we willhave different skin type than we
will in the winter, and we'regoing to want to adjust our
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skincare regimen to suitnature's cycles.
And then the fourth step isthat we will have different skin
at different ages of our life.
Our teen age years is going torequire different skincare needs
than during our 20s, 30s, 40s,50s and beyond.
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So these are the four maincomponents of the skin-syncing
method and we're gonna dive intothat a little bit today and the
main goal is to work with thenatural rhythms of nature and of
your body, your unique body, sothat we can optimally support
the skin to be its healthiestand most vibrant.
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So we don't really want to lookat what everybody's using out
there and the biggest trends andmake them our own.
We will consider them and thenmake them our own, but we will
always attune and be intuitivewith what our skin needs,
because it's going to bedifferent from what everybody
else needs out there.
So this is something that Ialways want you to remember.
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So what I'm giving you ineverything I do is a guide.
It's a guide and at the end ofthe day, you need to listen to
your skin, because when youlisten to your own body, you
will know what you need.
Okay, so let's get started.
I want you to think about yourskincare as a diet.
So, first and foremost, we wantto nourish our body from the
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inside out.
We really want to nourish ourbody from the inside out because
your skin is an organ just likeall the other organs.
It's the largest, most visibleorgan and it represents the
health of all the other organson the inside of our body.
So, more importantly thanskincare is actually taking care
of yourself from the inside outwith rest, exercise, good
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nutrition.
Nutrition and food are messages.
They are messages that tell ourcells whether to go in a good
direction or a bad direction.
Basically, through the processof epigenetics, what genes get
turned on and what genes getturned off is dependent on the
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foods that we decide to takeinto our body.
And if you look at nutrition,you can say that broccoli, for
instance, is healthy, salmon,wild Alaskan salmon is healthy.
Yet if you only have broccoliand wild Alaskan salmon for
every single meal, morning, noonand night, through every season
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of the year, you will not bewell fortified.
You will not meet yournutritional requirements.
So those might be particularlyhealthy foods, yet they are not
giving you everything that youneed in your nutritional
requirements in order to makeyou optimally healthy.
The same holds true with skincare.
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I want you to look at skin careas nourishing your skin from
the outside in.
So, while it's essential totake care of yourself from the
inside out, we also want tonourish our skin from the
outside in, and if you're usingthe same thing all of the time,
you are not going to be fillingin all of the nutritional gaps
that you need to do.
So remember this.
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Okay, something might be goodfor a season of your life, it
might be good for a season ofthe year, it might be good for a
certain time, but it's notalways going to be the right
thing for you, so keep that inmind.
Basically, the first thing Iwant you to do is think about
the natural rhythms of the day.
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So during the day, we, as soonas our body hits sunlight or any
light for that matter ourphotoreceptors, and we have
photoreceptors not only in oureyes, but we also have
photoreceptors in our skin.
That's why it's essential tosleep in darkness, because when
the room is completely dark,your body knows it's in the rest
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and regenerative phase as soonas our bodies, our eyes and our
skin hit light.
Even a little piece of yourskin slipping out of the sheets
at bed at night, exposed tolight, will confuse your
circadian clock and your bodywill start thinking that it is
daylight out.
So you get up in the morningand you hit sunlight and you go
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outside and see the sunrise.
Your skin gets exposed to thesun, your eyes get exposed to
the sun.
Bam, your body knows that it isin a protective mode.
All of the enzymes, all of themessages, all of the enzymatic
processes in our body understandthat it is in protective mode.
It's time to protect your bodyfrom the outside world.
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So what do we do for our skincare in the morning?
First, we want to cleanse.
We always want to cleanse.
So you cleanse in the morning.
Why we want to cleanse?
We always want to cleanse, soyou cleanse in the morning.
Why you just cleansed at night?
You cleanse in the morningbecause overnight our skin is a
major detox organ and as ourmetabolism is running, as our
body is renewing itself, it isextruding metabolic waste
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products.
It's extruding maybe some heavymetals, some other toxins out
of our pores overnight.
So we want to cleanse in themorning to remove all of all of
those things that were extrudedout of the pores overnight.
And for me I'll use a cleanserand I tend to be a little oily.
So then I'll use a toner on anexfoliating round and I will see
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a fair amount of dirt on thatexfoliating round that I did not
see the night before.
So that's what came out of mypores overnight.
It just kind of depends howmuch sushi did I have?
How much smog was I exposed tothe day before?
What else is going on?
It will determine how much dirtwas extruded out of the pores
overnight.
So we cleanse.
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We always cleanse first to prepthe skin toner plus or minus,
depending on your skin type andthen you want to apply a vitamin
c product with ferulic acid ifpossible, because that will help
the vitamin c to become morestable.
Now there's different types ofvitamin C products and most of
the vitamin C products willconvert into L-ascorbic acid
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eventually in the skin, which isthe active form.
The problem with applying anL-ascorbic acid serum to your
skin is it's very volatile.
So while it's active in vitroin the lab, when it's put into a
formulation in a bottle.
It's often inactivated veryquickly and it can turn usually
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orange and then brown when it'sexposed to heat, oxygen and
sunlight.
So those are hard things toavoid, right?
So there's different forms ofvitamin C.
There's THD ascorbate andthere's sodium ascorbyl
phosphate.
Sodium ascorbyl phosphate isthe form of vitamin C that Moon
and Skin has chosen to put intheir formulation, and I like
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this form of vitamin C becauseit's great for sensitive skin,
it's the least likely to causeirritation and it's also great
for acne-prone skin.
So one of the complaints thatI've seen over the years is
People with acne tend to getworsened acne and breakouts with
vitamin C products.
That's usually due to theL-ascorbic acid form.
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So if you are prone to acne andhave an intolerance of vitamin
C, I want you to look for a formthat contains THD ascorbate or
sodium ascorbyl phosphate, andthis will be less likely to be a
problem for you.
Okay, so after your vitamin Ccompletely dries and is absorbed
into the skin, then the nextstep is to apply a moisturizer.
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So even if you're prone to acne, use an oil-free moisturizer,
something with hyaluronic acid,to help hydrate and protect the
skin.
So we want to prep and then wewant to protect the skin
Moisturizer, let it dry, andthen your sunscreen Always,
always, always, spf 30 or highercontaining zinc oxide.
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I'm not one to wear much makeup, so I use tinted sunscreen,
because tinted sunscreencontains iron oxide and is great
for helping with pigmentaryissues.
And I like to wear my sunscreenface, neck, chest, sweep, the
back of your hands every singleday before leaving the house,
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for not only UV radiation but alot of incidental sunlight.
So we get UVA radiation throughthe windows of the car when
we're driving, through thewindow of our offices.
Each of us is walking outside,even in the winter months.
If you live in Colorado orMichigan or Chicago, somewhere
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cold, your face is gettingexposed to the sun for at least
10 minutes walking to and fromthe car every single day.
Well, what does that add up to?
More than 50 hours a year.
So 10 minutes a day adds up toat least 50 hours a year of
getting sun exposure to thesehigh-value areas that are going
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to show our age over 20, 30, 40years.
Over 20, 30, 40 years andwearing an SPF 30 or higher with
zinc oxide every single daybefore leaving the house is
going to help protect theseareas from showing their wear
and tear over time.
This is our morning routine thatis working with our circadian
clock when it is in theprotective phase.
Now, in the evening, when thelights go down, our body starts
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producing melatonin.
Our body now is in a renewalphase renewal and recovery.
There is such a thing as beautysleep.
We need rest, recovery, sleepin order to renew, and basically
what we're doing here is we aregiving our body the tools to
renew and regenerate just bygetting out of its way.
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That's what we want to do.
We want to support our skin todo what it wants to do.
Naturally, what we do at nightis we cleanse.
We cleanse.
You can do a double cleanse ifyou wear quite a bit of makeup,
where you use an oil-basedcleanser maybe micellar water,
to remove your eye makeup, andthen an active cleanser,
something that is gentle yeteffective.
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So we don't want to havestripped skin.
We don't want to have taut skinwhen we, when we cleanse, we
want to use a cleanser that weapply to the skin for two full
minutes after removing makeup,where the cleanser can penetrate
and actually remove dead skincells and remove any dirt and
debris and basically prep theskin to absorb the actives.
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So an effective cleanser willnot strip your skin of its
natural oils and it will alsonot leave residual dirt on the
skin afterwards.
So if you like to use a toneror I use another product called
AO2 clear that is hyperoxygenated water, and I can see
on the cotton pad, whether I usea toner or the AO2 clear, that
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there is no residual dirtafterwards.
And you should not see residualdirt if you have an effective
cleanser.
So we cleanse, let the skin dryand then apply a retinol.
So retinol it's not a sexy thing.
It's been around since the1970s and it's the most
scientifically studiedingredient in all of skincare.
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So retinol can help unplugpores.
It can help to enhance cellturnover, which we want.
We want fresh skin cells torenew and turn over.
It can help lift offpigmentation.
It can help stimulate collagenand it can help reverse some sun
damage.
So these are all wonderfulthings.
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The issue that we have withretinol is that oftentimes
people will use too much of itor too strong and that lifting
off and separation of dead skincells can happen too quickly and
it can make your skin lookreally dry and irritated.
So we don't want that.
You can get benefits fromretinol without going that way.
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So when you're first starting aretinol you want to start using
it.
Maybe three times a week isenough, just to get your skin
acclimated to it.
So I have people take apea-sized amount, apply it to
your forehead, cheek, othercheek, chin and your chest and
then rub it in.
Avoid letting it sit in thecreases around your eyes, nose,
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corners of the mouth or thecrease of your neck where at
night you sleep and it can kindof pool in those areas and
become more irritated.
So that's the key with retinolthree times a week, small amount
.
It works through cell signalingso you don't need complete
contact like you do with amoisturizer.
Trust the science because itworks through nuclear receptors
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in the cells and self signalingdoesn't need to have complete
coverage.
More than a pea-sized amount isonly going to be more
irritating and not necessarilymore effective.
And with the retinol you juststart slow and you start low and
you go slow.
And the moon and skin, thefolks at moon and skin, created
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a liposomal technology of theretinol, which I really like.
Because the liposomaltechnology of the retinol which
I really like?
Because the liposomaltechnology allows the retinol to
penetrate the bilipid membranein the skin and get to where it
needs to be, in the nuclearreceptors, without causing
irritation to the epidermis liketraditional retinols where
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you're getting all of thepeeling and the redness and the
scaling of your skin.
So start three times a week.
If you're having no irritationafter about two weeks, increase
to four times a week.
No irritation in another weekor two, go to five times a week
and gently go until you can getto every single night and that's
how I like to initiate retinol.
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After your retinol, you want tomoisturize.
So moisturization, if you'resomeone who's a little bit oily
and you don't like to moisturizeduring the day, you definitely
need to moisturize at nightbecause we have more trans
epidermal water loss.
There's more evaporation andloss of moisture from the skin
at night.
So we definitely need to, likethe women in the 1950s, packed
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on the cold cream.
They were smart.
That's what we need to do.
We need to put more moisturizeron our face at night, because
we are working with ourcircadian clock.
So don't forget your eyesaround your eyelids and don't
forget your neck and your chest,whatever's left in your hands
when you're using your skincareregimen.
Sweep the back of your hands,because we want our hands to age
the same rate as the rest ofour face, which is slow.
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We want all to age slowly.
So that's it for night.
You really need three steps inthe morning and three steps at
night.
This is your basic skin careregimen that everyone can do.
Now if you're targetingpigmentation or acne, we can add
in a separate serum for thoseand we will discuss that on
future episodes.
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So this is phase one of yourskin sinking program.
Now phase two is working withthe infradian cycle.
So phase one is working withthe circadian cycle, morning and
night.
Phase two is working with yourinfradian cycle, so the
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infradian rhythm.
It's a 28 day biological cycle.
Now every woman does not have a28 day menstrual cycle.
There's many variations inthere, from 25 days to 35 days,
and you know your body best,right?
So 28 days is a rough estimate.
So it's a 28-day biologicalcycle and it affects many
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systems in a woman, not just ourreproductive organs.
It affects our athleticperformance, we know.
It affects our mood.
It affects our skin.
So not much is talked aboutwith how the infradian cycle
affects your skin, but it does.
And now just say you'repost-menopausal and you're like
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I don't need to pay attention tothe infradian cycle?
You might not.
If you're perimenopausal, it'smore difficult to predict what
your hormones are, because theycan be up and down and all over
the place.
If you're post-menopausal, youcan choose to follow the cycle
of the moon or you may be on aconsistent program of
supplemental hormonal therapywhere your hormones are
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consistent and then you do notneed to follow an infradian
rhythm cycle of your skincare.
But if you are someone who doescycle cycle, if you do have a
menstrual cycle in any manner,then you should pay attention to
how to sync your skin care withyour infradian cycle.
So let's just dive into exactlywhat happens during this month.
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Okay, day one of your menstrualcycle, of your infradian rhythm,
is the day you bleed.
So day one is the day you bleedand during the first week of
your menstrual cycle, estrogenand progesterone in the body are
at its lowest.
It's at the lowest and yourskin is most likely to be dry
and sensitive.
So that first week of yourperiod is when your skin is the
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driest and the most sensitive ofthe entire menstrual cycle.
So what are the recommendations?
How should you adjustaccordingly to work with your
Natural rhythm, because we wantto work with our own bodies.
We don't want to work againstour bodies.
So first, change to a gentlecleanser.
Make sure your cleanser isreally gentle.
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Possibly in the morning youonly use water and at night you
use your cleanser to removemakeup.
If you could tolerate thegentle cleanser twice a day, I
definitely recommend continuingto do that.
Secondly, you want to cut outthe toner the first week.
So avoid toner or anyexfoliants or anything that is
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going to be harsh and cause moreirritation and dryness of your
skin.
Just be sensitive to the factthat your skin is going to be
more dry and sensitive duringthis week.
It's not because you're doinganything wrong, because what you
were doing the week before wasperfectly fine.
Yet the inside of your body haschanged, your hormones have
changed and your skin is goingto change accordingly.
So we're really looking atgentle cleansing.
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Avoid toners, avoidingexfoliation.
During this first week of yourinfradian rhythm, you may find
that you have to reduce yourretinol back down to three times
a week, and that's okay becauseyou're still going to get
benefits from it.
You may find that you need toadd more moisturizer, and one of
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the tricks that I often havepeople do with retinol is to do
the sandwich technique totolerate it.
You apply a moisturizer first,then you apply your retinol and
then you apply another layer ofmoisturizer, and this is
something you can do to toleratemoisturizer.
Or this is something that youcan do during the first week of
your infradian rhythm.
You may be someone who normallyonly needs to use moisturizer
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at night, and now you need to doit twice a day during this
first week of your menstrualcycle.
And then, if you have noticedthat your skin is more sensitive
, look for a product that hasingredients containing
niacinamide.
So niacinamide is vitamin B3,and it's very calming to the
skin.
It's very anti-inflammatory.
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And then the last recommendationI have for you during the first
week, if you're dry andsensitive, is you can look to
add a sheet mask to boosthydration to your skin.
So take some time for yourselfand apply a sheet mask for about
15 minutes at night to boosthydration to your skin.
So take some time for yourselfand apply a sheet mask for about
15 minutes at night to boosthydration and just see if it
feels good.
We're always trying to balancecost with effectiveness, so you
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know the cost for a sheet maskis a little bit higher, but it
can come in handy during thistime of the month.
So that's week one.
Now week two is the follicularphase.
It's the beginning of thefollicular phase and that's when
your estrogen starts to riseand your skin starts to glow.
Estrogen is our friend.
Your skin's going to becomemore resilient and less
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sensitive, so estrogen iscollagen promoting.
So you'll notice that your skinis more supple and more glowing
.
During the second week, it'sreally a good time where you can
just get back to your coreregimen.
You can add in some alphahydroxy, beta hydroxy acid and
some more exfoliants at thattime.
You can definitely bump up yourretinol to every night during
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that second week and adjust themoisturizer as needed.
One to two times a day.
Listen to your skin.
I'm going to tell you athousand times to listen to your
skin, because that's reallywhat ultimately you need to do.
So I will always give youguidance and tried and true
things that we know.
And then you adjust accordingly, just like if you had a meal in
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front of you.
Like, the amount that you eatis not going to be the same
amount that a football playereats.
Right, we adjust based on whatour body needs and that is what
my goal here is to teach you toeventually do is to just become
so attuned with what your skinneeds.
You know the answers, okay, sothat's the second week.
We are bumping up the retinolto every night again.
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Where we tolerate, we are amoisturizer one to two times a
day, based on what we need, andyou can add back in your
exfoliators.
Week three is ovulation, andthis is when you're fertile.
You're going to be at your mostattractive.
This is nature.
Make more money during the weekthat they are fertile than
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women who are not cycling, whoare in birth control and women
who are not in their ovulatorywindow.
There's much more to it thaneven hormones, but overall, we
know that because your hormonesare peaking during ovulation,
you are naturally at your mostattractive and your skin's also
going to be at the best withthis week, because the skin is a
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sign of fertility.
Healthy skin, healthy hair is asign of fertility and
attraction.
It's deep seated in ourevolutionary roots.
So recommendations for this weekare just cruise control.
Basically, maintain yourroutine from week two.
Your skin's going to tolerateexfoliation more this week.
It's a great week to experiment, try new things.
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It's a great week to getprocedures, because your skin's
going to heal better, becauseyour estrogen is going to be
more at the ready to producefresh collagen to help heal, and
it's just a great time toundergo any procedure if you
want to do laser ormicroneedling or chemical peels,
anything like that.
So collagen remodeling isreally supported.
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Otherwise, just do cruisecontrol with your skincare
routine.
Maybe try that latest trendthat you've wanted to try.
Don't expect it to work therest of your cycle, though, okay
.
So week four is now your lutealphase, and this is when
progesterone rises and this isoften when the PMS symptoms
happen and you can experiencemore oil production and even
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more breakouts during this week.
So I have seen a lot of womenin their twenties, thirties,
forties and even fifties thatare experiencing the jaw
hormonal acne, which I'm goingto do a deep dive discussing and
this is usually the time of themonth that it happens, okay,
when that progesterone rises andthere's more oil.
So if you notice that you'reone of those people that even if
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you don't break out, you stillmight have more oily complexion,
you want to focus on clarifyingproducts during this time of
the month.
So clarifying productstypically will contain salicylic
acid, and you can look forthese in the form of a cleanser
or a toner or even a treatmentmask, and I like salicylic acid
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so much for this reason, becausesalicylic acid is drawn to oil,
so it's an acid that is drawnto oil as opposed to water, so
some acids are drawn to water.
Salicylic acid is drawn to oiland the oil glands are holding
on to dead skin cells, which iswhat's making the pores look
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larger, which is also onecomponent of what causes acne.
So we want to selectivelyremove those extra skin cells
and oil that's leading to acneand breakouts, and salicylic
acid is a good way to do that.
Other things that you can do ifyou're noticing that you're more
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oily and acne prone during theluteal phase is to skip your
morning moisturizer and onlymoisturize at night.
You must need moisturizer atnight because that's when you
have so much transepidermalwater loss.
You really need to moisturizeat night, otherwise you're going
to get over dry skin and evenmore clogged pores, which we
don't want.
So you may need to just skipthe morning moisturizer or apply
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it only to the periphery of theface and your neck and your
chest and skip the T zone whereyou tend to be more oily, and
then, if you're not using avitamin C that contains sodium,
ascorbyl phosphate, you may wantto skip your vitamin C during
this time of the month, becausesome vitamin C's containing
L-ascorbic acid can make youmore prone to acne breakouts.
So basically, by working withyour body's natural infradian
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cycle, you're going to optimizeyour skincare routine and you're
going to understand why yourskin changes throughout the
month.
This is just a normal cycle.
It's a rhythm that our bodyundergoes every month, so we're
going to support it through allof the phases of your monthly
cycle.
That's it for the infradiancycle.
Now the third phase of the skinsinking program is to cycle with
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the seasons, and our body is sodynamic it's forever changing.
It's not static, so we do notwant to treat it the same all
the time.
We need to work with mothernature.
For instance, if it's winter,it's going to be drier and your
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skin type is going to change.
It might change from normal todry.
If it's oily, it might changeto normal, and the opposite
holds true in the summer.
The other thing, which I'lldiscuss in a deeper dive in a in
a different episode where wediscuss changing with the
seasons, is that, depending onwhere you live, your skin is
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going to change.
So I've lived a lot of places.
I've lived in New York,washington DC, dc, hawaii,
california, arizona, the RockyMountains in Utah and Colorado
and my skin has been differentin all of those places.
So your skin is going to bedifferent in different places.
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If you live in Dallas, texas,for instance, you're going to
have more moisture than if youlive in Arizona.
It's just a fact.
So these are little nuancesthat I want you all to
understand, because we live in aplace where there's a lot of
moving around, there's a lot oftraveling and there's a lot of
dynamic things.
So our body basically is italways wants to reach
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homeostasis.
So my body is interacting withthe outside world right now
trying to reach homeostasis.
So my body is interacting withthe outside world right now
trying to reach homeostasis.
So, for instance, I woke up inArizona this morning.
I am in San Diego right now.
I can feel so much more plumpmoisture in my skin than it was
this morning because the air hasmore humidity in it.
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And vice versa is true.
If you are in the winter monthsand you turn the heat on in the
house, the heat drains thehumidity in the house and now
your skin is interacting withthe environment.
That's really dry.
So a few months ago your skinmight have been normal and now
it's super dry because of theparched air in the environment.
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We are evaporating moisture fromour skin, so there's little
tips and tricks that we can dothrough the seasons to help
maintain moisture in our skinwithout causing any breakouts.
The other reason that I like toaddress skin changes through
the seasons is that our skintakes about six to 12 weeks,
depending on our age, to getfrom the bottom layer of the
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skin to the top layer of theskin.
So when I grab my skin here,basically in the deep layers of
my skin, there might be pimplesthere, there's all sorts of
things going on and I have towait for six to 12 weeks for the
skin to cycle through.
So I like people to reallystick with one skincare regimen
for about one season and then,with every season change, we
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Reassess our skincare and weadjust it.
Small modifications over timecan make a big difference.
It's the compound effect.
So you know, if I walk one milea day, at the end of the year
I've walked 50 miles.
I wouldn't have walked withoutwalking one mile a day.
If I eat one cookie a day, bythe end of the year I've walked
50 miles.
I wouldn't have walked withoutwalking one mile a day.
If I eat one cookie a day, bythe end of the year I'm going to
be 15 pounds heavier than if Ididn't eat that one cookie.
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If I save ten dollars a week,I'll be a millionaire by the
time I'm 60, right?
So little things over time canmake a huge difference, and the
same holds true with your skin.
If you implement something withevery season and make small
little adjustments, it can makea huge difference.
And the same holds true withyour skin.
If you implement something withevery season and make small
little adjustments, it can makea dramatic difference over time.
And that's what we're reallytrying to do here.
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We're trying to adjust thingsand give it enough time to work,
to work with our naturalcycling of our skin.
Collagen also takes about threemonths to form.
If you do anything to stimulatecollagen, whether it's
microneedling or a laser, itwill take about 12 weeks to see
full effect.
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Our goal is to work with nature, the natural cycle of our body,
the environment around us, andnot confuse our skin.
And this takes patience anddeliberate action.
And then the fourth phase of theskin sinking program is how to
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adjust our skincare during thedifferent seasons of our life.
So when you're a teenager, yourskin is going to be so much
different than when you're inyour 20s and even in your 30s,
and then 40s, 50s and beyond.
So I will discuss these detailsin a future episode about how
to change your skincare throughthe different seasons of life,
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because I want you to learn howto nourish your skin through
each decade so that you can havemaximum benefits.
We're always thinking ahead,but also addressing our concerns
at the time here.
So I want to thank you forbeing here today with me.
Please, please, please, keepsending questions.
I have an episode I'm going torecord answering your questions.
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I'll get to every single one ofthem slowly but surely.
So hit us up at moon and skin,on Instagram, tik TOK, on the
website, all the platforms.
We are here to serve you andsupport you through your
skincare journey, no matter whatyour age, no matter where you
are in life.
And, uh, please, share thisepisode with anyone and everyone
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you know, rate it and review it.
We're new, we want to grow, weneed your help growing and ta-ta
for now.
See you soon.
Bye.
Thank you for joining us onListen to your Skin by Moon and
Skin.
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