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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Living
the Dream with Curveball
podcast, a show where Iinterview guests that teach,
motivate and inspire.
Today, we're going to betalking about international
athletics, as I am joined byAthletic Director of the
International School of Londonand Qatar, Joe Toler.
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I went to school with Joe, so Iknow Joe pretty good.
Joe has over two decades ofexperience in education and
athletics.
He's leading the way, trying toget some things started at the
International School of Londonand going and let the world know
about it.
So we want to do that and letyou guys hear about it.
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And he's also a dedicatedmember and advisor to the IAAAC.
So we're going to be talking toJoe about everything that
they're up to and the greatthings that they're doing for
athletics.
So, Joe, thank you so much forjoining me today.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Curtis, it's great to
be here.
Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Why don't you start
off by telling everybody a
little bit about yourself?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Oh, gosh.
Well, currently, like you said,the athletic director for the
International School of London.
This is the middle of my secondyear here.
We've had quite theinternational career so far.
So since high school, man, wewe've been moving around quite a
bit, graduated from McNeeseState University with an
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education degree and thenstarted teaching in Houston for
about 10 years.
That's where I met my lovelywife and then we then traveled
to, decided to moveinternationally.
So then we've gone from Koreato Russia, to Lebanon, to Uganda
and Brussels and Belgium andthen made our way here.
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So this is our sixth country inthe last 12 years, or 13 years,
gosh, 12 years.
And um, or 13 years, gosh, andum, yeah, we, we've just lead an
exciting lifestyle doing thisand uh, with now a family
involved as well, and um, it'sbeen good.
And and then, um, you know, asI've grown into the role of an
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athletic director, there was a,there was a need at, on the
international school that westarted with for an athletic
program, and when I first gotinto coaching, or first got into
teaching, I got into coachingthrough a friend of mine and
just really enjoyed it and lovedevery minute of it and really
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grew to understand how much itmeans to students and how much
it means to the community.
And then, when we movedoverseas, I was actually
teaching English literature andwe went to this international
school and it was just openingup and we saw the need for much
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more than that to add value andholistic education to the
students' lives.
So they gave me the privilegeof creating a program for them
and I haven't looked back since.
So I've been now an athleticdirector since 2012 and loved
every minute of it 2012 andloved every minute of it.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, it sounds like
you definitely got a lot of
great things going on, so tellus about the International
School of London at Qatar, andtell us about your role as an
athletic director?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Sure, so the
International School of London,
qatar, is in its 15th year ofexistence.
It has about 1,200 students,from early childhood all the way
through grade 12.
My role as an incoming athleticdirector is not just on the
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athletic side of things but alsoon activities.
So I've got three major areasthat I lead, and it's athletics,
activities and Week WithoutWalls, and so you know,
athletics obviously speaks foritself.
We've been able to build aprogram into a much formal thing
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.
Before I got there thing.
Before I got there, studentswere really doing a lot of work
on their own and, you know,through self motivation they
created these small little teamsbut there wouldn't be any
coaches or any formal type ofseason that they would go with.
And then I've been able tobuild that program from scratch
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essentially, and it's reallybeen awesome and awesome to see
how the students have just growntowards it.
They've embraced it and it'sgetting better.
We still have a lot of growingto do in that area.
We still have a lot of growingto do in that area.
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And then my second role is theactivity side, where we look at
all the after school activities.
So essentially, as soon as theday is done.
That's when I really focus onwhat students are interested in
and some of their passions andbe able to offer everything that
they can explore.
So, whether it's, you know,robotics, to art, to music, to
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speech and debate, to MUN, toall the different programs that
a school might offer, are allareas that we have had in the
past but are also now justsolidifying into more of a
deeper program for the students.
And then the Week Without Wallsis a pretty large program but
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it's all condensed into one weekand we have students that
travel internationally and thenalso take part in various
activities throughout this weekin February where it's it's
quite a wide array of what weoffer.
So for the high school students,we're focused a lot on service
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learning.
They go to places abroad, theygo on adventures.
This year we had a few trips,one to Bali and one to Geneva.
We've had some middle schoolersthat went skiing and went to
Sri Lanka and all thesedifferent international
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adventures.
And then those who didn'ttravel got to take part in quite
a wide array of activitiesduring that week where they got
to pick and choose someactivities that they were really
interested in or areas that ofof growth.
They wanted to do so.
Some did mural paintings, andthen we had some trips off
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campus.
So it's these.
I had this idea that learningcan happen outside of the four
walls of the classroom.
So, um, so yeah, so I've youknow.
Like I said, this said, thishas been my role for the last
year and a half.
It's been an adventure.
Qatar is a beautiful country.
It definitely is something toget used to.
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As far as the heat is concerned, it does get awfully hot, but
then you have these wonderfulcool months, from November
really to now, where it's just abeautiful place to be.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Okay, well,
definitely appreciate you and
I'm sure the students definitelyappreciate all that you're
doing to make the world a betterplace.
So you are a contributingmember and an advisor to the
IAAAC.
So tell us about that role and,for those who don't know, tell
them what the IAAAC is.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, sure.
So in this whole journey thatI've been on as an athletic and
activities director, one greataspect has been the IAAAC, and
that's the InternationalAssociation of Athletic
Administrators and Coaches, andI joined in 2015,.
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I want to say I was able towork with a mentor of mine whose
name is Kirby Boychuk, and hewas the athletic director for
the international school or theAnglo-American school in Moscow,
and so he created theconference, and so while we were
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working together, I was able tounderstand the vision of it,
and what it is is.
Essentially, it's aprofessional development weekend
for athletic directors, butit's expanded beyond that right,
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so it's a conference that hasbeen really the most impactful
professional development thatI've been a part of in many
years, and it's where everybodygets a chance to present.
We offer opportunities to findout what those best practices
are.
You know what are people doingaround the world that's really
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working for whateverinternational school or context,
and or, you know, it doesn'teven have to be an international
school, but what part of theirjob is working.
And on the other side of it,too, is we're offering these
opportunities where we can justlearn from each other and really
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have an opportunity to networkand be together and, yeah, it's
a super impactful weekend ofprofessional development.
It's a super impactful weekendof professional development and
so we've been working with theconference now, you know, up
till COVID, and then we ended uptaking a break during COVID and
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last year we decided toreignite it, so we put the word
out and it was an amazingexperience.
We actually wanted it to besort of a first time back.
So the conference itself takesplace in Bangkok and we get the
word out and we were expecting,you know, just sort of a minimal
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number of those that might beinterested and by the time it
was said and done, we haddoubled the anticipated number
of attendees.
And it was just a greatexperience and it just showed us
how impactful that can be foreducators and for like-minded
people and for those around theworld that you know need to hear
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from each other, need theopportunity to learn from each
other and to be together andknow that you know automatically
whoever is there.
Those are people that you canrely on and lean on and
understand your role in whateverschool or context you might be
in.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Okay, so you know
kind of talk about how you've
seen your students grow witheverything that you're doing.
You know maybe some kind ofpersonal development stories
that stand out, you know to youbecause of what you guys have
been implementing and doing.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, it's been
really great.
You know, students need to findopportunities to explore their
passions and that's somethingthat I've been really grateful
on being able to recognize inthe after school spirit that the
parents love it andappreciative of it and, you know
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they really everybody justenjoys having that unity, having
that unity, and so that'sreally what I like to do and
offer the students of justhaving these avenues for them to
, you know, play sports and,again, like to fulfill their
passion.
So, yeah, I find, you know, youhave these small moments of
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where you can help someone who,whether it's an athlete, for
instance, having trouble in theclassroom, and we get a group of
teachers together and reallyfind ways to support them, and
something that I am exploringand strongly believe in.
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You know, we just had someconversations about academic
eligibility and whether weshould hold that, you know, over
our athletes that participate,and I take more of a stance of,
again, this is a part of aholistic experience.
We want to help our athletesgrow and learn and you know why
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should that be sort of a carrotthat we hold over them, right?
And so the philosophy that I'vetaken is that we eliminate that
part, that it's not just a formof punishment that you know, yes
, you may be struggling in theclassroom, but everybody
struggles every now and then inwhatever they do, and so you
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know what would be moreeffective.
Would it be something that youknow causes a negative feeling
and a negative atmosphere, or isit something that's a lot more
positive, where you know youhave a group of people that are
there to support you, and that'severybody, from athletes to
parents, to coaches, to to youknow, us, the F in the athletic
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office, to the teachersthemselves, and, and so you know
I've been lucky over the yearsto have these moments where I
have a student that comes in andjust ask for help and we get
our team together, we get ourour I like to call them our
board right, and we get ourboard together and we help this
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kid, and it's so impactful.
And sometimes you know in yourteaching and educating career
you don't get a lot of feedbackfrom the students.
It's just it's or it's way pastthe time that that you know
them and sometimes they youmight get a random email or
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random message for that thankyou, or or, and it's it means
the world.
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, tell us about
any upcoming projects that you
and your team is working on thatwe need to be aware of oh gosh,
yeah, so the well in bothcapacities.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
So in the IAAAC, you
know we've got, you know, the
upcoming conference that'shappening this May.
So the word is out and and youknow, we, you know all the
information on that is is on ourwebsite and we're looking
forward to really having a goodconference this year.
We've got a great keynotespeaker.
Last year and a half we've justdone so much.
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We've been on this hugetrajectory of where you know,
like I was saying earlier thatyou know, students were really
held.
Well, we're really tryingthemselves to, you know, form
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these, you know teams and localleagues and things like that,
and the last year was able toformalize that and things like
that, and the last year was ableto formalize that.
So now we participate in aconference on the local level
and I mean we're talking fromgrade two all the way to grade
12.
And this year we've started nowjoining and participating in an
international conference andthat's huge.
So a lot of our athletes, theyhave the opportunity to.
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You know, for instance, inseason one we play volleyball
and those volleyball teams flewto Bahrain and were able to
participate in a tournamentagainst, you know, seven other
international schools.
We held our first tournamentand were able to host it here
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for soccer and basketball withthree other schools, or two
other schools that are in ourconference here, and then we're
now getting ready to participatein another international
tournament in Dubai in April,and so our projects next year,
you know all, include not justgrowth in our program but for
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athletes in general, but alsonow adding some depth to the
program.
Right where we're focused oncoaching development, we're
focused on player development,and what are we doing then to
set us apart from otherinternational schools around the
area?
So lots, lots going on.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Definitely sounds
like it.
So you know, can peoplecontribute?
If so, how?
Or, you know, just throw outany contact information you
might have so people can keep upwith everything that you're up
to.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, sure, so
definitely with the Athletic
Director Conference or the IAAAC.
They can check out the websiteat i3accom.
There's a lot of information onthere and about past
conferences as well, and thenfor me, if they would like to,
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there's contact information onthere as far as um, anything
regarding the conference and um,yeah, uh, I think that that
would be the best way to stay incontact.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
All right, we'll
close this out with some final
thoughts.
Maybe, if that was something Iforgot to talk about, that you
would like to touch on, or anyfinal thoughts you have for the
listeners.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
No, I really
appreciate it.
I think you know, as athleticdirectors and as athletic
leaders, we're really focused onproviding the best for our
athletes and providing the bestfor students to be able to grow,
and you know there's a lot ofprofessional development out
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there.
That's really now refocusingeverything on, you know, those
things that will only detractfrom the experience that the
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student gets.
I think we've got a win there.
If you know something I tell mycoaches is you know, if those
kids are walking off from theteam practices with sweat on
their brow and a happy face, weknow that we've won that
practice for that day.
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And if kids can leave ourprograms better people, better
character with strongercharacters, it's a win every day
.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Absolutely.
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thank you for all that you andyour team is doing all around
the world and thank you forjoining me.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I appreciate it,
Curtis.
Thank you.