May 19, 2025 • 47 mins
What would compel a successful executive to walk away from his career to build beds for children? For Luke Mickelson, it was the shocking discovery that kids in his community were sleeping on the floor. That realization sparked a mission that has since transformed into Sleep in Heavenly Peace, now the world's largest bed-building charity with 400+ chapters across four countries.
Luke's journey began in 2012 when he learned about a family whose children had no beds. What started as a simple project with his Boy Scout troop quickly revealed a widespread, silent epidemic. More than 7 million American children don't have proper beds, affecting their health, education, and self-esteem. "I tell people it's kind of shocking that child bedlessness is even a thing," Luke shares, "but it represents greater than 3% of the total population."
The emotional heart of Luke's mission crystallized when he delivered a bed to a little girl named Haley, who had been sleeping on a pile of clothes in an empty house. "She started hugging us and hugging the bed and kissing the bed," Luke recalls. Watching her mother's tears of relief cemented his determination: "No kid's gonna sleep on the floor in my town if I have anything to do with it."
What makes Sleep in Heavenly Peace remarkable isn't just the number of beds they've built—over 300,000 since 2018—but their community-based approach. Each chapter operates locally, with 90% of donations staying in the community where they're received. Volunteers experience profound satisfaction from both building beds (what Luke calls "the happiest volunteer is the sweatiest and dustiest") and delivering them to children whose lives are transformed by this simple necessity.
The ripple effects extend beyond better sleep. Children gain confidence, improve academically, and feel worthy of friendship and connection. "These kids don't have blankets sometimes to put over their heads to hide from the monster in the closet," Luke explains, highlighting how a bed represents security that many take for granted.
Ready to make a difference? Visit shpbeds.org to find your local chapter, volunteer, donate, or even start a chapter in your community. As Luke learned firsthand, "True joy is found in serving others. When you stop looking at yourself and start seeing how you can help other people, your problems don't go away, but they just don't seem as heavy."
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Living the Dream Podcast with
Curveball, if you believe youcan achieve.
Welcome to the Living the Dreamwith Curveball Podcast, a show
where I interview guests thatteach, motivate and inspire.
(00:24):
Today, I am joined bynon-profit leader, luke
Mickelson.
Luke has created a non-profitorganization, sleep in Heavenly
Peace, where it provides andbuilds beds for kids.
His goal is to make sure thatevery kid sleeps in the bed
comfortably.
(00:44):
So we're going to be talking tohim about his organization, how
he founded it, what they'redoing and what they're going to
be doing.
So, luke, thank you so much forjoining me.
Thanks, chris, thanks forhaving me.
Why don't you start off bytelling everybody a little bit
about yourself?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
My name is Luke Mickelson.
I live in Twin Falls, idaho,which is a nice farming
community.
I've lived here pretty much mywhole life.
I was raised by a single mom.
I'm actually from a smallertown outside of Twin Falls
called Kimberly.
I don't know if those listenersout there that's from a small
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town can understand that there'spros and cons to that, mostly
pros.
You know.
The beauty of living in smalltown America is you know you get
to know everybody and they getto know you.
And the bad side of that is youget to know everybody and they
get to know you.
So it's one of those thingswhere you know when you have a
(01:41):
lot of friends you have a lot ofopportunities that otherwise in
some of these bigger cities youdon't Like.
For example, if you knew how tothrow a ball with any sort of
accuracy or catch, you playedsports and so that's who I was.
I was a sports guy growing upin my small high school
graduation class of only 69people.
(02:02):
So you know, and I tell peoplethat the beauty of that is when
you get to know everybody.
Everybody chips in and helpsyou know.
So I think I get.
I grew up with this sense ofwanting to help and service my
fellow, my fellow peers in mysmall town, my neighbors, and a
lot of that came from my mom,who's my hero.
(02:26):
I was raised by a single mom.
There's five kids and an olderbrother, two older sisters and a
younger sister, and my olderbrother he kind of left the
house early and so it was me andfour women.
And so I tell everybody I wasthe sharpest dressed kid in town
.
When you're raised by fourwomen, the sharpest dressed kid
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in town, when you're raised byfour women, you get to learn the
joys of service and sacrifice.
But no, that's me in a nutshell.
I was a sports guy.
I loved to serve through myhigh school career and then,
when I got out of high school,went to college, then served a
mission for my church for acouple of years in Texas and I
think that's where I reallylearned the joy of speaking with
people and serving strangers.
(03:09):
I mean, I remember we'd go outand proselyte, if you will, and
my goal was just to get to knowsomeone.
Right, I'd see someone mowingtheir lawn or I remember a guy
packing stuff out of his housebecause he was moving and we
just suits and ties, we jumpedin and helped them, and that's
where I found a lot of my truejoy and I and I and I attribute
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that to my, I think, to my mom,who who really taught me the
value of serving others, and soit was it was a great.
It was a great childhood comingup, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, absolutely.
Uh, sound like you definitelyhad a great time and you're
doing great things.
And speaking of the greatthings that you're doing, let's
talk about your.
How did you decide to get inthe nonprofit?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's a great question .
I don't know how I got no I,you know, in my in my career as
I, as I got home from my missionand home from college, I I
started outside sales in a watertreatment company.
So we sold chemicals forboilers and cooling towers.
I mean, it's kind of technical,kind of not.
I knew water was wet and thatwas about it when I started on
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this job.
But I'm a quick learn, I think,and I enjoyed talking with
people, right, so I felt like Icould really connect with people
or find common ground and then,when I believed in the product,
I was able to share what we did.
But I think the best part ofthe job that I had was when
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customers would have problems orissues.
They had to rely on me and Ienjoyed that.
I enjoyed showing up andfiguring out, solving the
problems for these customers.
And these weren't smallcustomers.
We're talking Microsoft andpower plants and food processing
plants.
There's millions of dollarsonline if you don't solve this
pretty quick and I enjoyed that.
(04:58):
I enjoyed that service, end ofthings.
Some of the best advice I evergot was from my mission
president said you know, if youcan, no matter what you do, no
matter what job or career you'rein, if you can look at your
Employment as serving others andnot just a paycheck, you'll
enjoy it so much more.
And he was 100% right.
And so I kind of went into thebusiness world, just like I did
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my mission and just like I didyoung growing up, you know how
can I really serve other people?
And I remember, you know Ienjoyed my job and I was
coaching kids and I was servingin my church.
And then 2012 came around andyou know, I tell people look, I
don't know what a midlife crisislooks like.
(05:43):
I think I was going through oneat the time.
I just didn't feel like myself.
I felt like there was more thatI could offer.
I felt like I wanted to leave amark on this world that was
more than just trying to makemoney and trying to do that kind
of stuff.
I measured success wrong, Idon't know.
(06:05):
I just kind of felt down.
And again, at the time I servedin my church role as what was
called a young men's president.
So I was over the young men'sprogram, ages 12 to 18.
And I was responsible for thespiritual growth as well as the
activity of the church and theboys' program, which was
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basically scouts, and so I wasthe leader of the leader of the
scouts, if you will, and sosometimes I got to play and go
and mess around with the kids.
But mostly I sat in meetingsand we discussed like one
particular meeting we discussedall the families we were helping
in the community and in ourchurch, and there was one
particular story that we weretalking about a family, a mom
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who was the local school busdriver and the dad he suffered
from some mental health,couldn't hold down a job, and
they had a couple of kids.
Well, the church was talkingabout how they were helping them
with rent and helping them withfood and rides to school, and
the kids didn't have any bedsand they needed clothes and toys
.
I said, wait a minute, did didyou say the kids don't have any
beds?
And uh, that really hit me.
(07:12):
You know I I don't know why I'mnot a stranger to serve.
You know we took the boy scoutsand we would build wheelchair
ramps and you know paintbleachers and do blood drives
and do all that stuff.
But this particular issue, itjust really struck me.
You know, I had kids of my own10, 6, and 1 at the time and I
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don't know.
I just felt like man, that'sterrible, like we got to figure
out what to do here.
And so I remember I got reallyexcited when I went home that
night from that meeting becausemy daughter had a bunk bed and I
thought here's a greatopportunity to take these Boy
Scouts, you know, get a Xboxcontrol out of their hands and
put a drill in it.
We're going to teach them somegood skills here.
(07:55):
And so I started measuring mydaughter's bunk bed and my wife
was like what are you doing?
I said, you know, we're.
There's some kids that aresleeping on the floor.
If you can believe that, I'mgoing to take these boy scats,
we're going to build them a bunkbed.
And I'm not a stranger to atool, uh, but I'd never built
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furniture before, so I was alittle nervous.
But we were, we were going tofigure it out.
And, uh, you kids.
It was interesting.
I worried as a leader of kidsnowadays and I'm sure everybody
out there that has them canrelate finding an activity that
they feel is worth their time orfun that didn't involve a
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screen or some sort of videogame is difficult nowadays, and
so I was a little worried thatthis wasn't going to fly like I
wanted it to.
But I was surprisingly andhappily wrong as I looked at
these boys and how they justenjoyed and dove right in
helping me build this bunk bedand I know it's because they
(09:05):
were thinking about where it wasgoing.
You know we're going to takethis to a couple of kids that
are sleeping on the floor and sowhen we were all said and done,
I actually had to stay back andclean my garage, because that's
where we built it, my garageand it was just a mess.
Well, the boys and theirparents and the leaders went and
delivered this bed to thischild and the next day Churchley
(09:27):
told me what an amazingexperience it was and I felt
really jealous because I wantedto be a part of that.
But it was great and it wasgreat to hear the story.
It was great to see that thekids were taken care of and the
parents were grateful and allthis were taken care of and the
parents were grateful and allthis.
And I remember that nightsitting on my couch just
(09:51):
pondering this last week and howthis hole that was being
developed in my heart just gotfilled with this oddly strange
satisfaction that I'd neverreally felt before in my service
.
And then an Xbox gamecommercial came online, or at
(10:13):
least came on the TV while wewere watching TV with my kids
and I knew it was Christmas time.
I knew they were going to askfor this Xbox game.
I wasn't going to buy them it.
They knew that.
But every parent that's gotkids around Christmas time knows
these kids are just going toask for things that they know
they're not going to get Sureenough.
That's what happened, curtis.
It just hit me right.
It hit me.
I'm back in my mundane, whichsounds terrible.
(10:37):
I didn't have a mundane life,but I was back in this rut that
I was in, I'll say, and just hadthis amazing experience.
It was gone.
My kids are complaining aboutthe presence.
They know I'm not going to get.
I just delivered, or built andhelped deliver a bed to a child
that didn't have one.
These guys have been, I don'tknow.
It was just this big emotionalstorm hit me just right, and I
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remember there was about two,three inches.
My feet were off the groundfrom the couch.
You know I was sitting on thecouch and I remember that was.
I could either sit here and tryto teach my kids, tell them
what we did, tell them thethings they had.
Or I could do what I did withmy Boy Scouts I could get my
butt off the couch, I could getout in the garage we had some
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leftover wood and I could teachthese kids of mine the value of
service, the joy of service, andcertainly appreciate the things
that they have.
Like they have their own bedGosh, dang it.
And so I jumped up off the couchand started walking to the
garage and everybody's like Dad,where are you going?
I said you know what?
I'm going to build another bunkbed and you're going to help me
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.
And, curtis, we had such agreat time.
My six-year-old daughter wasout there in her tutu, you know,
swinging nails and sandersaround.
My son was hammering boards inplace and you know we were
listening to.
You know butt rock 80s and itwas just fun.
You know, we just had a greattime.
And then I was stuck at the endof the week.
(12:01):
You know we spent a couple ofdays on it and, you know, got it
all stained up and then I washere.
What do I do with this bunk bed?
I didn't know child bedlessnesswas a real thing.
I built this for my kids and soas I sat here thinking you know
what do I do with this?
It was recommended to me whydon't you throw this on one of
those you know, buy, sell, tradeFacebook groups on the
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marketplace?
And I thought my first thoughtwas okay, I'm going to put a
free bed on the marketplace.
I'm going to get every Tom Dickand Harry's going to want a bed
, a free bed, and I reallywanted to give it to a kid in
need, a child that didn't have abed.
This was for a child didn'thave a bed, this was for a child
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.
Well, even though we got a lotof those people that wanted a
free bed, two things reallysurprised me that happened.
The first thing was we did geta lot of requests of kids that
were sleeping in reallyuncomfortable situations.
It shocked me.
And the second thing was I hada community of friends, people I
didn't know or people I'd knownfor 20 years I hadn't talked to
him for 20 years All of asudden came out of the woodwork
(13:09):
and said Luke man, I want tohelp.
That seems really cool and Iwas like it just warmed my heart
that we have those types ofpeople in the community just
sitting and waiting for ways toserve and help, and anyways.
What really hit me, though, iswhen we finally found the family
, the situation that I wanted.
You know, a friend of mine said, hey, I know of a family.
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They've been homeless.
They just got a house, theyhave nothing.
And I said, perfect, that's,that's, this is what I was
looking for.
So, curtis, I showed up to andit's my Haley story.
I showed up to Haley's new home,walked in and she didn't know
why we were there.
Her and her mom were there andthere was nothing in the house.
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And I'd seen poverty andhomelessness and all that before
, but I never really looked atit through the eyes of a, of a
child, cause that's who we werethere to serve was the child and
uh it, it blew me away.
It really, really tore at myheartstrings.
And then to realize and tophysically see there was nothing
in the house.
There was a hot plate sittingon a milk carton that had a can
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of soup on it, that was dinnerand that was it, and it was
pretty humbling, but littleHaley, you couldn't tell, she
was just so excited that we werehere, that she had a house, she
had a bedroom and so she said,you know she's like come, let me
show you my bedroom.
Just think about that.
You know I have a kid soexcited to show a complete
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stranger her bedroom.
So we go back in her bedroom andyou can imagine what it looked
like.
I mean, there's holes in thecarpet and tears in the walls
and you know there's no doors onthe closets.
It was just a kind of a rundownhouse, but it was.
It was theirs, and but whatwhat shocked me the most was in
the corner of this room was apile of clothes.
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Um, and that's where littleHaley slept.
She'd come home from fromschool, she'd take her school
clothes off, put, put herpajamas on and then sleep on her
clothes and then, of course, inthe morning reverse the cycle
and go to school.
And that really shocked me.
That hit me so hard to thinkfor weeks or months or whoever,
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maybe years, had we not shown upthat little Haley would be
sleeping in that nest of clothes.
So we were pretty excited tobring in the bed.
And we bring in everything.
We bring in mattress sheets,sheet sets, and I don't think
the mom realized that.
We start bringing in the piecesof bed and putting together,
and then we bring the mattressin and I remember the mom going
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oh, there's mattresses andsheets and pillows too.
I said, oh, absolutely, littleHaley's going to sleep tonight.
When Haley figured out what wewere doing, she just erupted.
She started hugging us andhugging the bed and kissing the
bed, which was crazy.
I never saw that before.
And if that wasn't enough tojust melt your heart, I looked
up at Haley's mom and here's asingle mom.
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All I saw was my mom, right,single mom, trying her best to
raise her kids with the meansthat she has, which is, you know
, small.
And I watched each one of hertears just fall off her cheek,
knowing exactly what those tearswere like.
I experienced it myself, youknow.
I tell people.
(16:22):
I remember we had one Christmaswhere we weren't going to get
anything.
You know it was five kids, mymom's single, my dad was was
gone and we weren't going to getanything.
And my mom came back from fromgetting the mail out of the of
the mailbox and she had $1,500in cash in her hand and someone
had just stuffed our, our, uh,mailbox with $1,500.
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And I just remember.
You know what that's going tobe me one day to be able to help
those in need.
That's what I want.
Um, and and here, here I waslooking at this this mom just
just crying tears of joy of, of,but tears of, you know,
frustration just being released.
I don't know.
It just really hit me so muchthat, you know, we had about a
half hour drive home and me andmy buddy, jordan, um, and my
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wife, we, we, we didn't reallysay anything to each other.
It was just so overwhelming.
And by the time we got home, Iremember thinking you know,
curtis, I'm a, I'm a Idaho farmkid, right, so I like to hunt
and fish and play outside, andcollege football was my thing on
Saturdays or football period, Imean, I just I liked to be
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active like that and those arethe things I just lived for.
Well, in a snap of a finger,all those things didn't mean
anything to me anymore.
To spend a few hours each nightthat week to solve that problem
was well worth my time.
And by the time we got home, Iremember going.
You know what?
I just looked at my friend.
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I said, jordan, no kid's gonnasleep on the floor in my town if
I have anything to do with itSolve that issue.
And he felt the same, you know.
So we just started building beds.
You know we'd post what we weredoing.
People would come overstrangers.
We'd just show up in my garage,we'd start, you know, they'd
just chip in, build beds, sand,stain, whatever, and then we'd
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deliver them.
And we delivered 21 beds.
That you know, 2012 Christmasbefore Santa showed up, and it
was just the neatest experience.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Okay, well, your organization has been featured
anywhere from PBS to CNN.
So you know, kind of tell usabout that and how you know that
helped get the word out and howdid that feel to you guys?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
bad.
Child bedlessness although nota real word, a real problem,
really was or really is still.
We just knew that there was afew people in our small little
community that had kids on thefloor.
But the more we built and themore we posted and talked to
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people about it, the more weunraveled and uncovered this
epidemic, this silent epidemicthat's been plaguing our kids
across our country.
And then the beauty of it wasthe more people that saw it, the
more people wanted to help.
And then we started.
As, through the years went by,we said you know, we probably
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ought to make this a nonprofit.
We can't finance it ourselvesanymore.
And we found that there was alot of organizations, companies
that wanted to give back, wantedto have a team building
exercise, and when we take rawlumber because this is how we
build beds we take raw lumber,we run it through kind of an
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assembly line of measuring andcutting and you know, put jigs
that put holes in the rightplaces and blah, blah, blah.
Anyways, by the end of thistrain we have pieces of a bunk
bed or a regular bed and we canbuild beds super fast you know,
40, 50 in just a couple of hours.
And so companies would want todonate money to us, but we
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weren't a nonprofit.
So we decided, okay, it's timeto be a nonprofit, right?
We didn't know what that meant.
I mean, we knew what charitieswere, but we didn't know how to
set up a nonprofit, let alonerun one.
But we decided, we're going tofly this plane as we, we're
going to build this plane as wefly it.
And that's what we did.
We just started going to town.
I figured out how to do it, wedo it.
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We figured out how to do awebsite.
I put everything up.
My friends came on board andreally, really wanted to help my
friend Jordan.
He wanted to do it up in Boise.
So we kind of said, okay,you'll be chapter, the Boise
chapter, and this will be theTwin Falls chapter.
And then other people startedsaying, oh, you're expanding.
Well, we want to do it in ourtown.
You know friends of ours, andsome of these friends lived as
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far as San Diego, california, orLehigh, utah.
And then we had a friend inMinnesota, a guy that we
actually wasn't even a friend.
We didn't even know who he was.
He just felt the urge from Godto build beds for kids.
He just Googled it, came upwith us, called us and says, hey
, can you show me how you buildyour beds?
And I said, hey, nate, better,yet why don't you just become a
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chapter and build beds all thetime with us?
And we saw a real shift.
I don't know if it's a shift isthe right word.
We saw a real interest that thecommunity had and people that
wanted to give, and we quicklyrealized that child bedlessness
is a thing, but so is thecommunities that we live in are
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filled with people that justthey want to serve.
They're great people.
They just don't know where toserve or how to serve or find
some very meaningful service,and we provided that.
We provided both the funactivity of building the bed,
the fun and spiritual, I call it, or certainly emotionally
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impactful delivery of a bed, butit brought satisfaction and
fulfillment to people's hearts,like it did mine, and so we just
started growing.
Well, in about 2018, well, it'sthe end of 2017, a couple of big
things happened in my life.
We were building beds, quite abit people getting to know us.
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We started putting on chapters.
In fact, we put on fivechapters in five different
states just in 2017 alone.
It just felt like we were goingreally, really fast and
spreading.
And all of a sudden, you know, Iwas employed and full time, I
was executive vice presidentover the company and over sales
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and was going to buy thebusiness with my brother and you
know just, my career was set.
But Sleep and Heavenly Peace,the name of our organization was
calling a lot of and demandinga lot of my time, and the bigger
we got, the more it demanded mytime.
And I was just left with adecision Do I quit my job and do
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this full time, which was notpaying any money, or do I quit
my charity and just get back towork?
And even though it was a harddecision it really wasn't a hard
decision I already knew what Iwanted.
I felt that need that was justgrowing inside me.
I felt that it was gone Almostlike.
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I felt like the Grinch whereyour heart just swelled three
times, and I didn't want to losethat and I didn't want to sit
back, you know, 20 years fromnow, thinking, oh what?
You know, the coulda, shoulda,wouldas.
And I knew I knew me enough, Iwould have done that.
And so we decided let's, let's,let's go all in.
So I quit my job and right as Iquit my job, I had this, what I
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thought was an internet magazinefrom New York.
People wanted to come to Idahoand film me and interview me and
talk about this charity.
So we're like sure, that'sgreat.
Well, what I didn't know was itwasn't an internet magazine,
they were hiding it from me.
It was actually a show calledReturning the Favor, with the
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host, mike Rowe.
Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs,great guy, and he would go
around the country and he'dhighlight these do-gooders.
He called them and theircharities and then they would
gift them something that theyneeded.
Well, we were in dire need of alarge warehouse because we were
pretty cramped in the smalllittle warehouse that got
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donated to us by an amazinglittle couple here in kimberly
and, and so when I was gettinginterviewed and and um, they
were, I was talking about thecharity, talking about what we
do, and and I was showing them abuild process.
We had kind of a littlemakeshift build going on.
All of a sudden I get a tap onmy shoulder.
I turn around.
There's mike row, and I wasshocked.
My, I said, mike, what are youdoing here?
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Right, it was.
It was really neat, right, neat.
And they gave us a warehousethat we could operate in
rent-free for several years, butthe beauty of what happened
there was it was a megaphone forour charity it launched.
We had 10 million viewsnationwide.
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We had 10 million viewsnationwide and we went from
about seven, eight chapters to125 or 30 in the first year and
now we have over 400 chaptersthat we've trained.
We're in four countries.
We've just surpassed 300,000beds that we've built just since
2018, and we build about 90,000beds a year.
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So we're actually the largestbed building charity in the
world, because we have so manyamazing people out there in
their own communities that haveseen the need and have felt the
drive and felt the purposebehind this touch their heart
enough that they want to start achapter or be a part of a
chapter and help a chapter buildbeds, and so that's and that,
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of course, as we, as we grew,and as people recognize that,
yeah, that I've been on.
I've been a good morning Americaand Lester Holt.
And then I was in 2018, I wasnominated as a top 10 scene in
hero, which was a extremely bighonor.
I mean, they're all greathonors.
I was on a Lay's potato chipbag.
I even did American NinjaWarrior?
How stupid is that?
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I'm not American Ninja Warrior,but we had fun.
We had fun, we had a great timeand all in hopes to spread
awareness about this epidemiccalled child bedlessness.
And I guarantee you, curtis,there's your listeners, people,
a lot of your listeners and, ifnot, most of them, all of them
may have never heard that childbedlessness is a problem and it
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even exists.
And I'm telling you, itrepresents greater than 3% of
the total population.
So there's more than 7, 10million kids in our country
right now that are sleeping inreally, really bad situations.
You know 10 million kids.
And we are providing a platformthat people in their own
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communities can get involved andhelp or start a chapter in
their communities if there isn'tone there.
And we teach you, we provideyou the tools and the necessary
skills to be able to set up anarm of this charity and be
successful in executing, raisingmoney, building and delivering
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beds.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Well, if there are parents out there that do need
help from Sleeping in HeavenlyPeace, can they get it, and if
so, how?
Speaker 2 (27:26):
You bet.
So the best way to learn aboutus is our website.
Of course, that's the firstplace I recommend people go to
shpbedsorg.
You know sleep and heavenlypeace.
So shpbedsorg and when you gothere, we've got to arrange that
in a kind of a unique way.
So it's it's based on yourgeography.
It'll bring up the closestchapter to you and it might be
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several hours, maybe even astate away, although we're in
almost every state now but whatit'll show you that?
It'll show you the need that isin that chapter you might see
kids a hundred, you might seethousands of kids and bed
requests that are needed forjust that chapter.
But on every web page, everychapter web page, there's ways
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to participate.
The first way and the firstthing I tell people is just help
us raise awareness.
Tell people that childbedlessness is a real thing.
Tell people that, hey, did youhear about this company, sleep
in Heavenly Peace, that providesbeds for kids?
I live in a town of, right now,about 50,000 people in my
surrounding communities, about50,000 people.
We've been here since the start, 2012.
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There are still organizationsthat help children that don't
know that Sleep in HeavenlyPeace exists In my own town,
which just blows me away.
It just goes to show you thatand they have issues, they have
needs for beds for kids andinstead of going and buying them
, all they have to do is go toshpbedsorg and apply for the
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kids that they're serving andthey get a bed.
And so, by raising awareness,if your audience can raise
awareness and let organizationsknow that this problem exists,
raise awareness and letorganizations know that this
problem exists, I guarantee youthose organizations are going to
love you, because they'realways looking for children's
beds, which is one of the topneeds that is not being
fulfilled for transitioning,homelessness, foster care,
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adoption and other needs thatour communities have.
So raising awareness is one.
If this pulls at yourheartstrings and you want to be
a part of this, you can findyour local chapter and reach out
to them and say, hey, I'd liketo participate, I'd like to
volunteer.
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They're always looking for coreteam volunteers, people that
could show up every month toeither help deliver, help build,
help maybe run some of theleadership of the organization
In that particular chapter.
We're always looking for greatvolunteers.
And then, of course, another wayis to donate.
You know, we're a 501c3.
We're a nonprofit.
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This is how we finance it.
But what I like to say is thatone of the more critical and
important things about donationsyou've got to remember I'm a
farm kid from Idaho.
I've dealt with charities likeeverybody else and heard great
things and then heard horriblethings about finances for
charities and I said, if we'regoing to do this, we're going to
(30:24):
be as transparent and run aslean as we possibly can.
And, being a businessman, I'man entrepreneur.
I started and stopped and solda number of companies and I
enjoy it.
I know what's needed there andI feel like I know how to run as
lean as we possibly can, and sothat's what we wanted to do.
(30:45):
And so the only way we financethe management of our
organization is we pull 10%.
So if you donate $100 to yourlocal chapter, we only pull 10%.
So 90 cents of your dollarstays locally, because I wanted
your dollars, I wanted anybody'sdollars, I wanted my dollars to
know that I'm saving kids in myown community that live next
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door, and all the beds and thesheets and pillows and all that
that get donated or purchasedstays locally, and that's really
important to us.
So when you donate your dollarwhich is the only way we finance
this right 90% of it stayslocal and it's even greater than
that because the local chapterdoesn't have to pay for taxes or
registration or insurance oranything like that.
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We pay for that out of the 10%that we pull.
So donations are reallycritical, obviously, but I think
it's important we'retransparent about what we do
with those dollars.
And then another way, obviously,is applying for a bed.
Applying for either yourself,apply for your neighbor across
the street, or maybe you knowsomeone five states over that
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hasn't applied or can't applyand you want to help them out.
You can apply for a child.
All they need, the onlyrequirement we have, is they're
ages 3 to 17.
We can place the bed in a homebecause we won't drop it off.
We actually go in the home andwe build it so the child can
sleep that day, you know, andthe mom's there, mom or dad, a
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legal guardian's there to beable to sign for the kid.
That's the only requirements wehave.
You know.
We serve anybody that we can,any child that's in need.
Our mission statement is no kidsleeps on the floor in our town
and we just want to make ourtown your town, you know.
And then the last thing and thisis really special.
If this really pulls at yourheart, if this is really
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something that you want to do asa listener and you don't have a
chapter close by, you can startone.
You know, I tell people it'skind of like running your own
little business, but you havepeople that will refuse to let
you fail.
You know, we have a robusttraining program on teaching
people how to start chapters,how to be not just start, but
how to be successful in raisingmoney which is never a problem
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for us how to raise money, howto build and organize build days
and then, of course, scheduledeliveries and how we report
back and we provide impactreports and all these things
that nonprofits do.
We have a handle on it.
We've got training programsthat teach people how to do that
, and I mean you come to ourtraining sessions.
We do a training session once aquarter.
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We fly everybody to Lehigh Utahand we spend a weekend teaching
them how to run the programsthat we have and all that.
And it's such a neat experienceto see these people that are so
excited to do what they'reexcited to help these little
humans in their own town findbeds.
Because, let's be real, curtis,these kids are in these
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situations not because of theirchoices they're too young for
the most part and even thechoices of the adults.
Sometimes it's just they had nochoice.
I can't tell you how many moms,especially, threw clothes in a
garbage bag, grabbed the kids,threw them in the car and just
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took off, just trying to escapesome situations or house fires
or loss of jobs, some situationsand and or or house fires or
loss of jobs.
I mean child bedlessness knowsno economics or no circumstances
.
It's not.
It's not an unknown thing tolive in a in a fairly wealthy
community and see childbedlessness, you know, scattered
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throughout.
And so those are the ways rightRaise awareness, help out in
your local chapter, of course,donate or start a new chapter of
your own.
There's plenty of ways to helpout and I promise you, I've
talked to thousands, hundreds ofthousands of volunteers that
have participated, people thatare very philanthropic, people
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that have served in othercapacities, and almost every
single one of them say this wasthe funnest thing and the most
fulfilling thing they ever did.
You know we have a saying,curtis, it's called the happiest
volunteer, is the sweatiest andthe dustiest, and that's
because, you know, when you taketime out of your day,
especially a Saturday, right?
You take time out of your dayto go and help.
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You really want to feel likeyou participated, and boy I tell
you what.
Sleep In Heavenly Peace.
When you come to a build day,you walk away knowing you
participated.
You're sore, you're sweaty, yougot sawdust everywhere.
You know you've been packingaround thousands of pieces of
wood, but it's nice to knowevery single one of those pieces
of wood that cut, that screwthat you put in.
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Know that piece of board youjust sanded that's going to
literally and physically betouched by a child that's going
to be sleeping on it, who wouldotherwise be sleeping on the
ground.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
And so it's just such a neat, fulfilling experience
well, tell us about any upcomingprojects that you and your
company are working on thatlisteners need to be aware of.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Absolutely.
And there's one particular wejust finished, actually just
this last weekend.
Lowe's is.
You know, lowe's HomeImprovement is our largest
sponsor.
They have partnered with us forthe last well, really since the
beginning, but on a verycorporate level for the last
eight years or so.
And we just got done inCharlotte, the downtown
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Charlotte Convention Center.
We just took 5,500 volunteers oftheirs and built, had a build
day for 24 hours straight.
We started at noon and ended atnoon the next day.
We had shifts that went into.
I worked from the 7 to 3o'clock in the morning shift.
It was awesome and we built5,000 beds in one 24-hour period
(36:42):
.
It's super fun.
Just to kind of put aperspective on that, it was, on
an average, a bed every 12.6seconds.
So it was super fun.
But the beauty of it is we dothese small builds all over the
country in chapters all the time.
And if you want to know what'sgoing on locally, you can look
(37:03):
at the Facebook page.
Excuse me, look at the website,find out.
A lot of them post there orthey post on their Facebook page
.
You can find the local chapterjust by typing in
sleepandemilypeace-yourabbreviuh uh, abbreviation for your,
for your state, for example, idfor idaho and it'll populate
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your that chapter or you canfind them online.
It'll.
It'll have their chapter linkson on their website but if you
can find your local chapter,connect with them.
There are big projects comingup all over the country.
We team up with NFL, we team upwith a lot of college sports
teams but more importantly, it'sall on a local level.
You know, this problem calledchild bedlessness, we know is
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not going to be solved by someguy in Idaho or some big
corporation in a big city.
This is going to be solved byus common folk, these normal
farm kids.
You know that.
Come together in the communityand solve community problems.
That's the only way this isgoing to work.
And so to provide a platform ora template for people locally
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in their own communities tofollow and to be successful in
providing beds for kids.
That's where we shine andthat's where we want.
We don't need recognition.
We love it because it spreadsthe awareness of this problem
and how people can solve it.
But really, where the rubbermeets the road, curtis is
locally.
(38:35):
People can get involved.
And I tell you what I talk aboutwhen I give my speeches.
I'm a public speaker and so onenugget I share is my TBF
framework.
It stands for two-by-fourframework, but TBF framework
stands for transforming,building and flourishing.
And what I found, and wherethat comes from, is we're a
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community of do-gooders we allare.
I mean, we might not recognizeit.
It's hidden and it's buriedunderneath some of the
negativity and the divisionthat's in our country right now.
But the gosh honest truth iswe're all great people and we
all want what's best forespecially our youth and our
kids, right?
(39:20):
I don't know One person's likeah, I hate kids and I don't want
them to flourish.
No, no, no, of course we do.
And when you start working andfocusing on helping these kids,
I tell you what happens isyou're the one that transforms,
you're the one that buildscharacter and you're the one
that flourishes, especially whenyou dive in.
And guess what?
You're the one that buildscharacter and you're the one
that flourishes, especially whenyou dive in.
And guess what?
You're helping someone.
Do that too.
I always say true joy is foundin serving others, when you stop
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looking at yourself and startseeing how you can help other
people.
I'm not going to say yourproblems go away, but I'm going
to tell you they just don't seemas heavy.
I don't know one person thatwalked away from delivering a
bed to a child.
You walk into this room andhere's this nine-year-old boy
hiding behind his mom becausehe's got strangers in a room
(40:06):
with loud drills and screws andpieces of wood and they're doing
something.
And then all of a sudden herecognizes oh my gosh, this is a
bed.
Look here's a mattress, lookhere's Superman sheets.
And this apprehension turnsinto appreciation, which then
turns into love, and these kidsthen quickly realize there are
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people in their community theydon't know, strangers that they
don't know, that love them, thattaking time out of their day to
help them sleep better.
These kids that don't have beds,they are behind, they don't
sleep so they don't study.
They don't study or they don'tlearn or they're in bad moods
(40:51):
and so behavioral issues.
They can't even have sleepovers.
They're embarrassed to havefriends come over.
It's a confidence booster.
It's a place for kids to goaway and hide from their
troubles once in a while.
I mean these kids don't haveblankets sometimes to put over
their heads to hide from themonster in the closet.
I mean these are real, realthings.
(41:13):
We can kind of laugh and jokeabout it, but it's real.
It's real to them.
I mean, how many times us, asadults, you have a hard day at
work?
I mean, sometimes all you thinkabout is your bed.
I just got home from a longtrip yesterday my wife and I
woke up and I mean she leanedover to me literally just this
morning and says I just love mybed, and I know exactly what she
means.
And when you don't have that,what do you have, like the couch
(41:36):
?
I mean, I don't know what thesekids have, and so that's what
we provide.
And there's kids right now inthis community, in your
community, in your listeners'communities, right now tonight
they're going to sleep on a hardfloor or a really itchy couch,
or they're going to sleep withthree other people in the same
bed, because that's all thefamily can afford.
(41:59):
And you as an individual can bea part of stopping that and
solving that and being a part ofsomething bigger.
It almost fires me up, I almostget angry at it and this is the
jock or the competitiveness inme coming out is gosh, dang it.
There's a pathway, there is avision here.
You can be a part of it.
All you have to do is get offthe couch.
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All you have to do is drop yourfeet on the floor and get up.
Get up with some bolddeterminants to say you know
what?
I know I've got I'm working afull-time job, I've got so much
stuff, I'm busy, I can't do it.
There's all these obstacles,they're always in the way and
they'll always be in the way,right, but if you can make some
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time, that's the effort, that'sthe reward that the kids get,
but that's the transformationthat you get and that's the.
The end of transformation comesfrom the build process, or the
action that we all need to taketo help people in our own
communities.
And that action if this reallyis something that touches you,
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that action can be had, it canbe done and you can do it.
You can be a part of it.
You can sign up to do builds.
You can sign up to raiseawareness and deliver beds to
kids and I promise you you dothat.
Like everybody I've talked to,no one walks away from
delivering a bed to a child,going man, that just I could
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have done something better withmy time.
I just don't.
I just can't see it right whenyou see little Haley's of the
world and you see the nest ofclothes that they sleep in, day
in and day out on a hard, coldconcrete floor, and then you
bring them a bed and watch themtransform from apprehension to
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appreciation, from joy, frommisery to joy or from fear to
love.
Man, I don't know about you, Iknow about me, and it changed my
heart so much that that's whatI do for a living now.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Absolutely and definitely.
Thank you for your service andall that you're doing to make
sure that no kid sleeps on thefloor.
Ladies and gentlemen, visitshpbedsorg dot com dot org.
Shp beds dot org.
That way, you can check outeverything that Luke has going
(44:26):
on.
You can set up a chapter, youcan apply for somebody, follow,
rate, review, share this episodeto as many people as possible
and get this around and get thisstuff going and make sure that
no kid sleeps on the floor.
Follow us on your favoritepodcast app.
Visit wwwcurveball337.com formore information on the Living
(44:48):
the Dream with Curveball podcast.
Thank you for listening andsupporting the show and, luke,
thank you for all that you andyour company is doing to make
the world a better place, andthank you for joining me.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Thanks, Curtis.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
For more information on the Living the Dream with
Curveball podcast, visitwwwcurveball337.com.
Until next time, keep livingthe dream.
Welcome to the Living the Dream Podcast with
Curveball, if you believe youcan achieve.
Welcome to the Living the Dreamwith Curveball Podcast, a show
where I interview guests thatteach, motivate and inspire.
(00:24):
Today, I am joined bynon-profit leader, luke
Mickelson.
Luke has created a non-profitorganization, sleep in Heavenly
Peace, where it provides andbuilds beds for kids.
His goal is to make sure thatevery kid sleeps in the bed
comfortably.
(00:44):
So we're going to be talking tohim about his organization, how
he founded it, what they'redoing and what they're going to
be doing.
So, luke, thank you so much forjoining me.
Thanks, chris, thanks forhaving me.
Why don't you start off bytelling everybody a little bit
about yourself?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
My name is Luke Mickelson.
I live in Twin Falls, idaho,which is a nice farming
community.
I've lived here pretty much mywhole life.
I was raised by a single mom.
I'm actually from a smallertown outside of Twin Falls
called Kimberly.
I don't know if those listenersout there that's from a small
(01:20):
town can understand that there'spros and cons to that, mostly
pros.
You know.
The beauty of living in smalltown America is you know you get
to know everybody and they getto know you.
And the bad side of that is youget to know everybody and they
get to know you.
So it's one of those thingswhere you know when you have a
(01:41):
lot of friends you have a lot ofopportunities that otherwise in
some of these bigger cities youdon't Like.
For example, if you knew how tothrow a ball with any sort of
accuracy or catch, you playedsports and so that's who I was.
I was a sports guy growing upin my small high school
graduation class of only 69people.
(02:02):
So you know, and I tell peoplethat the beauty of that is when
you get to know everybody.
Everybody chips in and helpsyou know.
So I think I get.
I grew up with this sense ofwanting to help and service my
fellow, my fellow peers in mysmall town, my neighbors, and a
lot of that came from my mom,who's my hero.
(02:26):
I was raised by a single mom.
There's five kids and an olderbrother, two older sisters and a
younger sister, and my olderbrother he kind of left the
house early and so it was me andfour women.
And so I tell everybody I wasthe sharpest dressed kid in town
.
When you're raised by fourwomen, the sharpest dressed kid
(02:48):
in town, when you're raised byfour women, you get to learn the
joys of service and sacrifice.
But no, that's me in a nutshell.
I was a sports guy.
I loved to serve through myhigh school career and then,
when I got out of high school,went to college, then served a
mission for my church for acouple of years in Texas and I
think that's where I reallylearned the joy of speaking with
people and serving strangers.
(03:09):
I mean, I remember we'd go outand proselyte, if you will, and
my goal was just to get to knowsomeone.
Right, I'd see someone mowingtheir lawn or I remember a guy
packing stuff out of his housebecause he was moving and we
just suits and ties, we jumpedin and helped them, and that's
where I found a lot of my truejoy and I and I and I attribute
(03:29):
that to my, I think, to my mom,who who really taught me the
value of serving others, and soit was it was a great.
It was a great childhood comingup, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, absolutely.
Uh, sound like you definitelyhad a great time and you're
doing great things.
And speaking of the greatthings that you're doing, let's
talk about your.
How did you decide to get inthe nonprofit?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's a great question .
I don't know how I got no I,you know, in my in my career as
I, as I got home from my missionand home from college, I I
started outside sales in a watertreatment company.
So we sold chemicals forboilers and cooling towers.
I mean, it's kind of technical,kind of not.
I knew water was wet and thatwas about it when I started on
(04:16):
this job.
But I'm a quick learn, I think,and I enjoyed talking with
people, right, so I felt like Icould really connect with people
or find common ground and then,when I believed in the product,
I was able to share what we did.
But I think the best part ofthe job that I had was when
(04:37):
customers would have problems orissues.
They had to rely on me and Ienjoyed that.
I enjoyed showing up andfiguring out, solving the
problems for these customers.
And these weren't smallcustomers.
We're talking Microsoft andpower plants and food processing
plants.
There's millions of dollarsonline if you don't solve this
pretty quick and I enjoyed that.
(04:58):
I enjoyed that service, end ofthings.
Some of the best advice I evergot was from my mission
president said you know, if youcan, no matter what you do, no
matter what job or career you'rein, if you can look at your
Employment as serving others andnot just a paycheck, you'll
enjoy it so much more.
And he was 100% right.
And so I kind of went into thebusiness world, just like I did
(05:23):
my mission and just like I didyoung growing up, you know how
can I really serve other people?
And I remember, you know Ienjoyed my job and I was
coaching kids and I was servingin my church.
And then 2012 came around andyou know, I tell people look, I
don't know what a midlife crisislooks like.
(05:43):
I think I was going through oneat the time.
I just didn't feel like myself.
I felt like there was more thatI could offer.
I felt like I wanted to leave amark on this world that was
more than just trying to makemoney and trying to do that kind
of stuff.
I measured success wrong, Idon't know.
(06:05):
I just kind of felt down.
And again, at the time I servedin my church role as what was
called a young men's president.
So I was over the young men'sprogram, ages 12 to 18.
And I was responsible for thespiritual growth as well as the
activity of the church and theboys' program, which was
(06:28):
basically scouts, and so I wasthe leader of the leader of the
scouts, if you will, and sosometimes I got to play and go
and mess around with the kids.
But mostly I sat in meetingsand we discussed like one
particular meeting we discussedall the families we were helping
in the community and in ourchurch, and there was one
particular story that we weretalking about a family, a mom
(06:51):
who was the local school busdriver and the dad he suffered
from some mental health,couldn't hold down a job, and
they had a couple of kids.
Well, the church was talkingabout how they were helping them
with rent and helping them withfood and rides to school, and
the kids didn't have any bedsand they needed clothes and toys
.
I said, wait a minute, did didyou say the kids don't have any
beds?
And uh, that really hit me.
(07:12):
You know I I don't know why I'mnot a stranger to serve.
You know we took the boy scoutsand we would build wheelchair
ramps and you know paintbleachers and do blood drives
and do all that stuff.
But this particular issue, itjust really struck me.
You know, I had kids of my own10, 6, and 1 at the time and I
(07:33):
don't know.
I just felt like man, that'sterrible, like we got to figure
out what to do here.
And so I remember I got reallyexcited when I went home that
night from that meeting becausemy daughter had a bunk bed and I
thought here's a greatopportunity to take these Boy
Scouts, you know, get a Xboxcontrol out of their hands and
put a drill in it.
We're going to teach them somegood skills here.
(07:55):
And so I started measuring mydaughter's bunk bed and my wife
was like what are you doing?
I said, you know, we're.
There's some kids that aresleeping on the floor.
If you can believe that, I'mgoing to take these boy scats,
we're going to build them a bunkbed.
And I'm not a stranger to atool, uh, but I'd never built
(08:20):
furniture before, so I was alittle nervous.
But we were, we were going tofigure it out.
And, uh, you kids.
It was interesting.
I worried as a leader of kidsnowadays and I'm sure everybody
out there that has them canrelate finding an activity that
they feel is worth their time orfun that didn't involve a
(08:42):
screen or some sort of videogame is difficult nowadays, and
so I was a little worried thatthis wasn't going to fly like I
wanted it to.
But I was surprisingly andhappily wrong as I looked at
these boys and how they justenjoyed and dove right in
helping me build this bunk bedand I know it's because they
(09:05):
were thinking about where it wasgoing.
You know we're going to takethis to a couple of kids that
are sleeping on the floor and sowhen we were all said and done,
I actually had to stay back andclean my garage, because that's
where we built it, my garageand it was just a mess.
Well, the boys and theirparents and the leaders went and
delivered this bed to thischild and the next day Churchley
(09:27):
told me what an amazingexperience it was and I felt
really jealous because I wantedto be a part of that.
But it was great and it wasgreat to hear the story.
It was great to see that thekids were taken care of and the
parents were grateful and allthis were taken care of and the
parents were grateful and allthis.
And I remember that nightsitting on my couch just
(09:51):
pondering this last week and howthis hole that was being
developed in my heart just gotfilled with this oddly strange
satisfaction that I'd neverreally felt before in my service
.
And then an Xbox gamecommercial came online, or at
(10:13):
least came on the TV while wewere watching TV with my kids
and I knew it was Christmas time.
I knew they were going to askfor this Xbox game.
I wasn't going to buy them it.
They knew that.
But every parent that's gotkids around Christmas time knows
these kids are just going toask for things that they know
they're not going to get Sureenough.
That's what happened, curtis.
It just hit me right.
It hit me.
I'm back in my mundane, whichsounds terrible.
(10:37):
I didn't have a mundane life,but I was back in this rut that
I was in, I'll say, and just hadthis amazing experience.
It was gone.
My kids are complaining aboutthe presence.
They know I'm not going to get.
I just delivered, or built andhelped deliver a bed to a child
that didn't have one.
These guys have been, I don'tknow.
It was just this big emotionalstorm hit me just right, and I
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remember there was about two,three inches.
My feet were off the groundfrom the couch.
You know I was sitting on thecouch and I remember that was.
I could either sit here and tryto teach my kids, tell them
what we did, tell them thethings they had.
Or I could do what I did withmy Boy Scouts I could get my
butt off the couch, I could getout in the garage we had some
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leftover wood and I could teachthese kids of mine the value of
service, the joy of service, andcertainly appreciate the things
that they have.
Like they have their own bedGosh, dang it.
And so I jumped up off the couchand started walking to the
garage and everybody's like Dad,where are you going?
I said you know what?
I'm going to build another bunkbed and you're going to help me
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.
And, curtis, we had such agreat time.
My six-year-old daughter wasout there in her tutu, you know,
swinging nails and sandersaround.
My son was hammering boards inplace and you know we were
listening to.
You know butt rock 80s and itwas just fun.
You know, we just had a greattime.
And then I was stuck at the endof the week.
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You know we spent a couple ofdays on it and, you know, got it
all stained up and then I washere.
What do I do with this bunk bed?
I didn't know child bedlessnesswas a real thing.
I built this for my kids and soas I sat here thinking you know
what do I do with this?
It was recommended to me whydon't you throw this on one of
those you know, buy, sell, tradeFacebook groups on the
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marketplace?
And I thought my first thoughtwas okay, I'm going to put a
free bed on the marketplace.
I'm going to get every Tom Dickand Harry's going to want a bed
, a free bed, and I reallywanted to give it to a kid in
need, a child that didn't have abed.
This was for a child didn'thave a bed, this was for a child
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.
Well, even though we got a lotof those people that wanted a
free bed, two things reallysurprised me that happened.
The first thing was we did geta lot of requests of kids that
were sleeping in reallyuncomfortable situations.
It shocked me.
And the second thing was I hada community of friends, people I
didn't know or people I'd knownfor 20 years I hadn't talked to
him for 20 years All of asudden came out of the woodwork
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and said Luke man, I want tohelp.
That seems really cool and Iwas like it just warmed my heart
that we have those types ofpeople in the community just
sitting and waiting for ways toserve and help, and anyways.
What really hit me, though, iswhen we finally found the family
, the situation that I wanted.
You know, a friend of mine said, hey, I know of a family.
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They've been homeless.
They just got a house, theyhave nothing.
And I said, perfect, that's,that's, this is what I was
looking for.
So, curtis, I showed up to andit's my Haley story.
I showed up to Haley's new home,walked in and she didn't know
why we were there.
Her and her mom were there andthere was nothing in the house.
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And I'd seen poverty andhomelessness and all that before
, but I never really looked atit through the eyes of a, of a
child, cause that's who we werethere to serve was the child and
uh it, it blew me away.
It really, really tore at myheartstrings.
And then to realize and tophysically see there was nothing
in the house.
There was a hot plate sittingon a milk carton that had a can
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of soup on it, that was dinnerand that was it, and it was
pretty humbling, but littleHaley, you couldn't tell, she
was just so excited that we werehere, that she had a house, she
had a bedroom and so she said,you know she's like come, let me
show you my bedroom.
Just think about that.
You know I have a kid soexcited to show a complete
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stranger her bedroom.
So we go back in her bedroom andyou can imagine what it looked
like.
I mean, there's holes in thecarpet and tears in the walls
and you know there's no doors onthe closets.
It was just a kind of a rundownhouse, but it was.
It was theirs, and but whatwhat shocked me the most was in
the corner of this room was apile of clothes.
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Um, and that's where littleHaley slept.
She'd come home from fromschool, she'd take her school
clothes off, put, put herpajamas on and then sleep on her
clothes and then, of course, inthe morning reverse the cycle
and go to school.
And that really shocked me.
That hit me so hard to thinkfor weeks or months or whoever,
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maybe years, had we not shown upthat little Haley would be
sleeping in that nest of clothes.
So we were pretty excited tobring in the bed.
And we bring in everything.
We bring in mattress sheets,sheet sets, and I don't think
the mom realized that.
We start bringing in the piecesof bed and putting together,
and then we bring the mattressin and I remember the mom going
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oh, there's mattresses andsheets and pillows too.
I said, oh, absolutely, littleHaley's going to sleep tonight.
When Haley figured out what wewere doing, she just erupted.
She started hugging us andhugging the bed and kissing the
bed, which was crazy.
I never saw that before.
And if that wasn't enough tojust melt your heart, I looked
up at Haley's mom and here's asingle mom.
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All I saw was my mom, right,single mom, trying her best to
raise her kids with the meansthat she has, which is, you know
, small.
And I watched each one of hertears just fall off her cheek,
knowing exactly what those tearswere like.
I experienced it myself, youknow.
I tell people.
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I remember we had one Christmaswhere we weren't going to get
anything.
You know it was five kids, mymom's single, my dad was was
gone and we weren't going to getanything.
And my mom came back from fromgetting the mail out of the of
the mailbox and she had $1,500in cash in her hand and someone
had just stuffed our, our, uh,mailbox with $1,500.
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And I just remember.
You know what that's going tobe me one day to be able to help
those in need.
That's what I want.
Um, and and here, here I waslooking at this this mom just
just crying tears of joy of, of,but tears of, you know,
frustration just being released.
I don't know.
It just really hit me so muchthat, you know, we had about a
half hour drive home and me andmy buddy, jordan, um, and my
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wife, we, we, we didn't reallysay anything to each other.
It was just so overwhelming.
And by the time we got home, Iremember thinking you know,
curtis, I'm a, I'm a Idaho farmkid, right, so I like to hunt
and fish and play outside, andcollege football was my thing on
Saturdays or football period, Imean, I just I liked to be
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active like that and those arethe things I just lived for.
Well, in a snap of a finger,all those things didn't mean
anything to me anymore.
To spend a few hours each nightthat week to solve that problem
was well worth my time.
And by the time we got home, Iremember going.
You know what?
I just looked at my friend.
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I said, jordan, no kid's gonnasleep on the floor in my town if
I have anything to do with itSolve that issue.
And he felt the same, you know.
So we just started building beds.
You know we'd post what we weredoing.
People would come overstrangers.
We'd just show up in my garage,we'd start, you know, they'd
just chip in, build beds, sand,stain, whatever, and then we'd
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deliver them.
And we delivered 21 beds.
That you know, 2012 Christmasbefore Santa showed up, and it
was just the neatest experience.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Okay, well, your organization has been featured
anywhere from PBS to CNN.
So you know, kind of tell usabout that and how you know that
helped get the word out and howdid that feel to you guys?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
bad.
Child bedlessness although nota real word, a real problem,
really was or really is still.
We just knew that there was afew people in our small little
community that had kids on thefloor.
But the more we built and themore we posted and talked to
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people about it, the more weunraveled and uncovered this
epidemic, this silent epidemicthat's been plaguing our kids
across our country.
And then the beauty of it wasthe more people that saw it, the
more people wanted to help.
And then we started.
As, through the years went by,we said you know, we probably
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ought to make this a nonprofit.
We can't finance it ourselvesanymore.
And we found that there was alot of organizations, companies
that wanted to give back, wantedto have a team building
exercise, and when we take rawlumber because this is how we
build beds we take raw lumber,we run it through kind of an
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assembly line of measuring andcutting and you know, put jigs
that put holes in the rightplaces and blah, blah, blah.
Anyways, by the end of thistrain we have pieces of a bunk
bed or a regular bed and we canbuild beds super fast you know,
40, 50 in just a couple of hours.
And so companies would want todonate money to us, but we
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weren't a nonprofit.
So we decided, okay, it's timeto be a nonprofit, right?
We didn't know what that meant.
I mean, we knew what charitieswere, but we didn't know how to
set up a nonprofit, let alonerun one.
But we decided, we're going tofly this plane as we, we're
going to build this plane as wefly it.
And that's what we did.
We just started going to town.
I figured out how to do it, wedo it.
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We figured out how to do awebsite.
I put everything up.
My friends came on board andreally, really wanted to help my
friend Jordan.
He wanted to do it up in Boise.
So we kind of said, okay,you'll be chapter, the Boise
chapter, and this will be theTwin Falls chapter.
And then other people startedsaying, oh, you're expanding.
Well, we want to do it in ourtown.
You know friends of ours, andsome of these friends lived as
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far as San Diego, california, orLehigh, utah.
And then we had a friend inMinnesota, a guy that we
actually wasn't even a friend.
We didn't even know who he was.
He just felt the urge from Godto build beds for kids.
He just Googled it, came upwith us, called us and says, hey
, can you show me how you buildyour beds?
And I said, hey, nate, better,yet why don't you just become a
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chapter and build beds all thetime with us?
And we saw a real shift.
I don't know if it's a shift isthe right word.
We saw a real interest that thecommunity had and people that
wanted to give, and we quicklyrealized that child bedlessness
is a thing, but so is thecommunities that we live in are
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filled with people that justthey want to serve.
They're great people.
They just don't know where toserve or how to serve or find
some very meaningful service,and we provided that.
We provided both the funactivity of building the bed,
the fun and spiritual, I call it, or certainly emotionally
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impactful delivery of a bed, butit brought satisfaction and
fulfillment to people's hearts,like it did mine, and so we just
started growing.
Well, in about 2018, well, it'sthe end of 2017, a couple of big
things happened in my life.
We were building beds, quite abit people getting to know us.
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We started putting on chapters.
In fact, we put on fivechapters in five different
states just in 2017 alone.
It just felt like we were goingreally, really fast and
spreading.
And all of a sudden, you know, Iwas employed and full time, I
was executive vice presidentover the company and over sales
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and was going to buy thebusiness with my brother and you
know just, my career was set.
But Sleep and Heavenly Peace,the name of our organization was
calling a lot of and demandinga lot of my time, and the bigger
we got, the more it demanded mytime.
And I was just left with adecision Do I quit my job and do
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this full time, which was notpaying any money, or do I quit
my charity and just get back towork?
And even though it was a harddecision it really wasn't a hard
decision I already knew what Iwanted.
I felt that need that was justgrowing inside me.
I felt that it was gone Almostlike.
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I felt like the Grinch whereyour heart just swelled three
times, and I didn't want to losethat and I didn't want to sit
back, you know, 20 years fromnow, thinking, oh what?
You know, the coulda, shoulda,wouldas.
And I knew I knew me enough, Iwould have done that.
And so we decided let's, let's,let's go all in.
So I quit my job and right as Iquit my job, I had this, what I
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thought was an internet magazinefrom New York.
People wanted to come to Idahoand film me and interview me and
talk about this charity.
So we're like sure, that'sgreat.
Well, what I didn't know was itwasn't an internet magazine,
they were hiding it from me.
It was actually a show calledReturning the Favor, with the
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host, mike Rowe.
Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs,great guy, and he would go
around the country and he'dhighlight these do-gooders.
He called them and theircharities and then they would
gift them something that theyneeded.
Well, we were in dire need of alarge warehouse because we were
pretty cramped in the smalllittle warehouse that got
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donated to us by an amazinglittle couple here in kimberly
and, and so when I was gettinginterviewed and and um, they
were, I was talking about thecharity, talking about what we
do, and and I was showing them abuild process.
We had kind of a littlemakeshift build going on.
All of a sudden I get a tap onmy shoulder.
I turn around.
There's mike row, and I wasshocked.
My, I said, mike, what are youdoing here?
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Right, it was.
It was really neat, right, neat.
And they gave us a warehousethat we could operate in
rent-free for several years, butthe beauty of what happened
there was it was a megaphone forour charity it launched.
We had 10 million viewsnationwide.
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We had 10 million viewsnationwide and we went from
about seven, eight chapters to125 or 30 in the first year and
now we have over 400 chaptersthat we've trained.
We're in four countries.
We've just surpassed 300,000beds that we've built just since
2018, and we build about 90,000beds a year.
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So we're actually the largestbed building charity in the
world, because we have so manyamazing people out there in
their own communities that haveseen the need and have felt the
drive and felt the purposebehind this touch their heart
enough that they want to start achapter or be a part of a
chapter and help a chapter buildbeds, and so that's and that,
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of course, as we, as we grew,and as people recognize that,
yeah, that I've been on.
I've been a good morning Americaand Lester Holt.
And then I was in 2018, I wasnominated as a top 10 scene in
hero, which was a extremely bighonor.
I mean, they're all greathonors.
I was on a Lay's potato chipbag.
I even did American NinjaWarrior?
How stupid is that?
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I'm not American Ninja Warrior,but we had fun.
We had fun, we had a great timeand all in hopes to spread
awareness about this epidemiccalled child bedlessness.
And I guarantee you, curtis,there's your listeners, people,
a lot of your listeners and, ifnot, most of them, all of them
may have never heard that childbedlessness is a problem and it
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even exists.
And I'm telling you, itrepresents greater than 3% of
the total population.
So there's more than 7, 10million kids in our country
right now that are sleeping inreally, really bad situations.
You know 10 million kids.
And we are providing a platformthat people in their own
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communities can get involved andhelp or start a chapter in
their communities if there isn'tone there.
And we teach you, we provideyou the tools and the necessary
skills to be able to set up anarm of this charity and be
successful in executing, raisingmoney, building and delivering
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beds.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Well, if there are parents out there that do need
help from Sleeping in HeavenlyPeace, can they get it, and if
so, how?
Speaker 2 (27:26):
You bet.
So the best way to learn aboutus is our website.
Of course, that's the firstplace I recommend people go to
shpbedsorg.
You know sleep and heavenlypeace.
So shpbedsorg and when you gothere, we've got to arrange that
in a kind of a unique way.
So it's it's based on yourgeography.
It'll bring up the closestchapter to you and it might be
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several hours, maybe even astate away, although we're in
almost every state now but whatit'll show you that?
It'll show you the need that isin that chapter you might see
kids a hundred, you might seethousands of kids and bed
requests that are needed forjust that chapter.
But on every web page, everychapter web page, there's ways
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to participate.
The first way and the firstthing I tell people is just help
us raise awareness.
Tell people that childbedlessness is a real thing.
Tell people that, hey, did youhear about this company, sleep
in Heavenly Peace, that providesbeds for kids?
I live in a town of, right now,about 50,000 people in my
surrounding communities, about50,000 people.
We've been here since the start, 2012.
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There are still organizationsthat help children that don't
know that Sleep in HeavenlyPeace exists In my own town,
which just blows me away.
It just goes to show you thatand they have issues, they have
needs for beds for kids andinstead of going and buying them
, all they have to do is go toshpbedsorg and apply for the
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kids that they're serving andthey get a bed.
And so, by raising awareness,if your audience can raise
awareness and let organizationsknow that this problem exists,
raise awareness and letorganizations know that this
problem exists, I guarantee youthose organizations are going to
love you, because they'realways looking for children's
beds, which is one of the topneeds that is not being
fulfilled for transitioning,homelessness, foster care,
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adoption and other needs thatour communities have.
So raising awareness is one.
If this pulls at yourheartstrings and you want to be
a part of this, you can findyour local chapter and reach out
to them and say, hey, I'd liketo participate, I'd like to
volunteer.
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They're always looking for coreteam volunteers, people that
could show up every month toeither help deliver, help build,
help maybe run some of theleadership of the organization
In that particular chapter.
We're always looking for greatvolunteers.
And then, of course, another wayis to donate.
You know, we're a 501c3.
We're a nonprofit.
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This is how we finance it.
But what I like to say is thatone of the more critical and
important things about donationsyou've got to remember I'm a
farm kid from Idaho.
I've dealt with charities likeeverybody else and heard great
things and then heard horriblethings about finances for
charities and I said, if we'regoing to do this, we're going to
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be as transparent and run aslean as we possibly can.
And, being a businessman, I'man entrepreneur.
I started and stopped and solda number of companies and I
enjoy it.
I know what's needed there andI feel like I know how to run as
lean as we possibly can, and sothat's what we wanted to do.
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And so the only way we financethe management of our
organization is we pull 10%.
So if you donate $100 to yourlocal chapter, we only pull 10%.
So 90 cents of your dollarstays locally, because I wanted
your dollars, I wanted anybody'sdollars, I wanted my dollars to
know that I'm saving kids in myown community that live next
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door, and all the beds and thesheets and pillows and all that
that get donated or purchasedstays locally, and that's really
important to us.
So when you donate your dollarwhich is the only way we finance
this right 90% of it stayslocal and it's even greater than
that because the local chapterdoesn't have to pay for taxes or
registration or insurance oranything like that.
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We pay for that out of the 10%that we pull.
So donations are reallycritical, obviously, but I think
it's important we'retransparent about what we do
with those dollars.
And then another way, obviously,is applying for a bed.
Applying for either yourself,apply for your neighbor across
the street, or maybe you knowsomeone five states over that
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hasn't applied or can't applyand you want to help them out.
You can apply for a child.
All they need, the onlyrequirement we have, is they're
ages 3 to 17.
We can place the bed in a homebecause we won't drop it off.
We actually go in the home andwe build it so the child can
sleep that day, you know, andthe mom's there, mom or dad, a
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legal guardian's there to beable to sign for the kid.
That's the only requirements wehave.
You know.
We serve anybody that we can,any child that's in need.
Our mission statement is no kidsleeps on the floor in our town
and we just want to make ourtown your town, you know.
And then the last thing and thisis really special.
If this really pulls at yourheart, if this is really
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something that you want to do asa listener and you don't have a
chapter close by, you can startone.
You know, I tell people it'skind of like running your own
little business, but you havepeople that will refuse to let
you fail.
You know, we have a robusttraining program on teaching
people how to start chapters,how to be not just start, but
how to be successful in raisingmoney which is never a problem
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for us how to raise money, howto build and organize build days
and then, of course, scheduledeliveries and how we report
back and we provide impactreports and all these things
that nonprofits do.
We have a handle on it.
We've got training programsthat teach people how to do that
, and I mean you come to ourtraining sessions.
We do a training session once aquarter.
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We fly everybody to Lehigh Utahand we spend a weekend teaching
them how to run the programsthat we have and all that.
And it's such a neat experienceto see these people that are so
excited to do what they'reexcited to help these little
humans in their own town findbeds.
Because, let's be real, curtis,these kids are in these
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situations not because of theirchoices they're too young for
the most part and even thechoices of the adults.
Sometimes it's just they had nochoice.
I can't tell you how many moms,especially, threw clothes in a
garbage bag, grabbed the kids,threw them in the car and just
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took off, just trying to escapesome situations or house fires
or loss of jobs, some situationsand and or or house fires or
loss of jobs.
I mean child bedlessness knowsno economics or no circumstances
.
It's not.
It's not an unknown thing tolive in a in a fairly wealthy
community and see childbedlessness, you know, scattered
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throughout.
And so those are the ways rightRaise awareness, help out in
your local chapter, of course,donate or start a new chapter of
your own.
There's plenty of ways to helpout and I promise you, I've
talked to thousands, hundreds ofthousands of volunteers that
have participated, people thatare very philanthropic, people
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that have served in othercapacities, and almost every
single one of them say this wasthe funnest thing and the most
fulfilling thing they ever did.
You know we have a saying,curtis, it's called the happiest
volunteer, is the sweatiest andthe dustiest, and that's
because, you know, when you taketime out of your day,
especially a Saturday, right?
You take time out of your dayto go and help.
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You really want to feel likeyou participated, and boy I tell
you what.
Sleep In Heavenly Peace.
When you come to a build day,you walk away knowing you
participated.
You're sore, you're sweaty, yougot sawdust everywhere.
You know you've been packingaround thousands of pieces of
wood, but it's nice to knowevery single one of those pieces
of wood that cut, that screwthat you put in.
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Know that piece of board youjust sanded that's going to
literally and physically betouched by a child that's going
to be sleeping on it, who wouldotherwise be sleeping on the
ground.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
And so it's just such a neat, fulfilling experience
well, tell us about any upcomingprojects that you and your
company are working on thatlisteners need to be aware of.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Absolutely.
And there's one particular wejust finished, actually just
this last weekend.
Lowe's is.
You know, lowe's HomeImprovement is our largest
sponsor.
They have partnered with us forthe last well, really since the
beginning, but on a verycorporate level for the last
eight years or so.
And we just got done inCharlotte, the downtown
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Charlotte Convention Center.
We just took 5,500 volunteers oftheirs and built, had a build
day for 24 hours straight.
We started at noon and ended atnoon the next day.
We had shifts that went into.
I worked from the 7 to 3o'clock in the morning shift.
It was awesome and we built5,000 beds in one 24-hour period
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.
It's super fun.
Just to kind of put aperspective on that, it was, on
an average, a bed every 12.6seconds.
So it was super fun.
But the beauty of it is we dothese small builds all over the
country in chapters all the time.
And if you want to know what'sgoing on locally, you can look
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at the Facebook page.
Excuse me, look at the website,find out.
A lot of them post there orthey post on their Facebook page
.
You can find the local chapterjust by typing in
sleepandemilypeace-yourabbreviuh uh, abbreviation for your,
for your state, for example, idfor idaho and it'll populate
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your that chapter or you canfind them online.
It'll.
It'll have their chapter linkson on their website but if you
can find your local chapter,connect with them.
There are big projects comingup all over the country.
We team up with NFL, we team upwith a lot of college sports
teams but more importantly, it'sall on a local level.
You know, this problem calledchild bedlessness, we know is
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not going to be solved by someguy in Idaho or some big
corporation in a big city.
This is going to be solved byus common folk, these normal
farm kids.
You know that.
Come together in the communityand solve community problems.
That's the only way this isgoing to work.
And so to provide a platform ora template for people locally
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in their own communities tofollow and to be successful in
providing beds for kids.
That's where we shine andthat's where we want.
We don't need recognition.
We love it because it spreadsthe awareness of this problem
and how people can solve it.
But really, where the rubbermeets the road, curtis is
locally.
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People can get involved.
And I tell you what I talk aboutwhen I give my speeches.
I'm a public speaker and so onenugget I share is my TBF
framework.
It stands for two-by-fourframework, but TBF framework
stands for transforming,building and flourishing.
And what I found, and wherethat comes from, is we're a
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community of do-gooders we allare.
I mean, we might not recognizeit.
It's hidden and it's buriedunderneath some of the
negativity and the divisionthat's in our country right now.
But the gosh honest truth iswe're all great people and we
all want what's best forespecially our youth and our
kids, right?
(39:20):
I don't know One person's likeah, I hate kids and I don't want
them to flourish.
No, no, no, of course we do.
And when you start working andfocusing on helping these kids,
I tell you what happens isyou're the one that transforms,
you're the one that buildscharacter and you're the one
that flourishes, especially whenyou dive in.
And guess what?
You're the one that buildscharacter and you're the one
that flourishes, especially whenyou dive in.
And guess what?
You're helping someone.
Do that too.
I always say true joy is foundin serving others, when you stop
(39:44):
looking at yourself and startseeing how you can help other
people.
I'm not going to say yourproblems go away, but I'm going
to tell you they just don't seemas heavy.
I don't know one person thatwalked away from delivering a
bed to a child.
You walk into this room andhere's this nine-year-old boy
hiding behind his mom becausehe's got strangers in a room
(40:06):
with loud drills and screws andpieces of wood and they're doing
something.
And then all of a sudden herecognizes oh my gosh, this is a
bed.
Look here's a mattress, lookhere's Superman sheets.
And this apprehension turnsinto appreciation, which then
turns into love, and these kidsthen quickly realize there are
(40:30):
people in their community theydon't know, strangers that they
don't know, that love them, thattaking time out of their day to
help them sleep better.
These kids that don't have beds,they are behind, they don't
sleep so they don't study.
They don't study or they don'tlearn or they're in bad moods
(40:51):
and so behavioral issues.
They can't even have sleepovers.
They're embarrassed to havefriends come over.
It's a confidence booster.
It's a place for kids to goaway and hide from their
troubles once in a while.
I mean these kids don't haveblankets sometimes to put over
their heads to hide from themonster in the closet.
I mean these are real, realthings.
(41:13):
We can kind of laugh and jokeabout it, but it's real.
It's real to them.
I mean, how many times us, asadults, you have a hard day at
work?
I mean, sometimes all you thinkabout is your bed.
I just got home from a longtrip yesterday my wife and I
woke up and I mean she leanedover to me literally just this
morning and says I just love mybed, and I know exactly what she
means.
And when you don't have that,what do you have, like the couch
(41:36):
?
I mean, I don't know what thesekids have, and so that's what
we provide.
And there's kids right now inthis community, in your
community, in your listeners'communities, right now tonight
they're going to sleep on a hardfloor or a really itchy couch,
or they're going to sleep withthree other people in the same
bed, because that's all thefamily can afford.
(41:59):
And you as an individual can bea part of stopping that and
solving that and being a part ofsomething bigger.
It almost fires me up, I almostget angry at it and this is the
jock or the competitiveness inme coming out is gosh, dang it.
There's a pathway, there is avision here.
You can be a part of it.
All you have to do is get offthe couch.
(42:19):
All you have to do is drop yourfeet on the floor and get up.
Get up with some bolddeterminants to say you know
what?
I know I've got I'm working afull-time job, I've got so much
stuff, I'm busy, I can't do it.
There's all these obstacles,they're always in the way and
they'll always be in the way,right, but if you can make some
(42:39):
time, that's the effort, that'sthe reward that the kids get,
but that's the transformationthat you get and that's the.
The end of transformation comesfrom the build process, or the
action that we all need to taketo help people in our own
communities.
And that action if this reallyis something that touches you,
(43:00):
that action can be had, it canbe done and you can do it.
You can be a part of it.
You can sign up to do builds.
You can sign up to raiseawareness and deliver beds to
kids and I promise you you dothat.
Like everybody I've talked to,no one walks away from
delivering a bed to a child,going man, that just I could
(43:22):
have done something better withmy time.
I just don't.
I just can't see it right whenyou see little Haley's of the
world and you see the nest ofclothes that they sleep in, day
in and day out on a hard, coldconcrete floor, and then you
bring them a bed and watch themtransform from apprehension to
(43:44):
appreciation, from joy, frommisery to joy or from fear to
love.
Man, I don't know about you, Iknow about me, and it changed my
heart so much that that's whatI do for a living now.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Absolutely and definitely.
Thank you for your service andall that you're doing to make
sure that no kid sleeps on thefloor.
Ladies and gentlemen, visitshpbedsorg dot com dot org.
Shp beds dot org.
That way, you can check outeverything that Luke has going
(44:26):
on.
You can set up a chapter, youcan apply for somebody, follow,
rate, review, share this episodeto as many people as possible
and get this around and get thisstuff going and make sure that
no kid sleeps on the floor.
Follow us on your favoritepodcast app.
Visit wwwcurveball337.com formore information on the Living
(44:48):
the Dream with Curveball podcast.
Thank you for listening andsupporting the show and, luke,
thank you for all that you andyour company is doing to make
the world a better place, andthank you for joining me.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Thanks, Curtis.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
For more information on the Living the Dream with
Curveball podcast, visitwwwcurveball337.com.
Until next time, keep livingthe dream.
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