How to Make a Woman Orgasm (For Real)

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Annette (00:03):
Hi, this is Annette Benedetti, your hostess for a
locker room talk, and shots thepodcast that likes to think of
itself as the queer NPR ofraunchy women's sex talk.
You are about to sit in on thekind of conversations women have
on their girls' nights out orbehind closed doors, while
enjoying delicious drinks anddishing about sex.

(00:24):
Think, fun, honest and feministas fuck, and always with the
goal of fighting the patriarchy.
One orgasm at a time.
Welcome to the locker room.
Today's locker room talk topicis how to make us come, how to

(00:49):
make women come, how to makepeople with vulvas come, and
this conversation is not onewith a professional, but it's
one with two vulva owners whohave decided we are ready to
share how you can get us there.
I think it's time that we justtalk about how we are actually

(01:11):
coming, like what's actuallyworking in real life situations.
And I'm not talking about alone.
I'm talking about with anotherperson, whether the other person
is someone who also has a vulvaor somebody who has a cock.
And I am here with my very,very good friend, liberty, to

(01:32):
talk about how we've been comingfor as long as we've been
coming.
Yeah, it's yep sounds good.

Liberty (01:41):
What makes this?

Annette (01:42):
conversation.
It's not going to be candid andby the end of this podcast
we're going to re round up oursuggestions.
If you are somebody who istrying to make a woman or
someone with a vulva come,you're going to have a path
there, at least to try.
You're going to have a couplepaths and some hardcore tips

(02:04):
that are definitely going tomake you a better lover.
I think so too, Liberty, beforewe go on, I want you to remind
so.
Liberty has been on thispodcast several times with me
now, but I want you to remindthe listeners, like, just throw
out a couple of the ones so theycan scroll back and if they
haven't listened.

Liberty (02:23):
Listen to them From housewife to hoe unicorn.
Three isn't always what's itcalled.
Three isn't always a crowd.

Annette (02:34):
Three sons and unicorns .

Liberty (02:36):
That was a good one One was bisexual visibility and
body count.

Annette (02:44):
I would say this in this podcast, you are going to
find out that our body countmine and.
Liberty's.
You know it's going to be abenefit to you because our body
count is not low.
We have a lot of experiencewith not coming and then coming?

Liberty (03:04):
Yes, of course.

Annette (03:06):
And we are having a drink today together.

Liberty (03:10):
It's a Thursday afternoon.
Drink Baby Friday.

Annette (03:13):
Baby Friday, yes, baby Friday, and we made it up.
We got some.
It's kind of like a mimosa, butnot really.

Liberty (03:19):
We have some champagne and Sparkling wine and some of
this lovely blueberry syrup fromIkea.
You can buy it in the foodsection, and it's so delicious
to add to anything to watersparkling water or prosecco or
champagne.

Annette (03:40):
Yeah, well, we're having champagne, so hey, let's
get ready to talk about comingOkay.

Liberty (03:46):
One of my favorite things.
Yes, FYI.

Annette (03:49):
On that note, Liberty and I just made a decision, so
if you are not on my YouTubechannel, annette Benedetti,
you're going to want to headthere.
I am doing sex toy reviews.
I get sent lots of sex toys toreview and I have a lot of sex
toys.
I've only used what I've got.
I've got my.
My home is overflowing with sextoys.

(04:11):
I can no longer keep all ofthem.
So what we decided was this I'mgoing to share my sex toys with
Liberty, who is then going totest drive them as well, and we
are going to be revisiting thesesex toys and discussing her
impression of them, myimpression of them, and it will
be kind of like a re-review, butwith two women's opinions.

Liberty (04:35):
Yeah, yeah, and their partners how they enjoyed using
them.
I mean with us.

Annette (04:42):
Because we are definitely going to use the sex
toys with our partner.
So when two women share toys,what happens?
It's a good question.
Yeah, I mean, we, at least atthis point, have not shared them
together, but you know who?

Liberty (04:56):
knows who knows we would do a podcast on that.
Yeah.

Annette (05:00):
So, but let's start with orgasms.
I want to kick this off Libertywith an article I wrote a while
ago and I outlined and Iactually did a little video on
this as well 17 types of orgasmsthat people can have.

Liberty (05:15):
I was just talking about this the other day.
I can't wait to hear the 17types.

Annette (05:20):
I don't know they can come up with 17, but I can come
up with like five, maybe, yeah,and then I thought we could
figure out how maybe, as I'mnaming them, we can say if we've
had them or not.
To Okay, okay, and I did do alittle TikTok video, a video
that's also up on YouTube aboutthem, so you can go watch that.
But we're going to start withkind of oh, and in this article
I wrote I also named the toysthat can get you there.
So I will put this article inthe description of this podcast.

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I mean, the very first one thatwe all talk about is the
clitoral orgasm.
I don't think it needs.
You know, if you haven't foundthe clit yet, you need to go and
find the clit, and there arebooks that I've reviewed and I
have tons of episodes on helpingyou find the clitoris, so just

(06:05):
scroll back through and keeplistening.
But the clitoral orgasm, haveyou had that?
Yes, we both had it, andthere's some stat like 80, some
odd percent of vulva owners needclitoral stimulation to orgasm.
Have you had a G-spot orgasm?

Liberty (06:23):
Yes, I mean.
I mean, I would assume thatincludes squirting, but you and
I, we have different feelingsabout squirting.
Yes, okay.

Annette (06:32):
I definitely have.
I found my G-spot in the lasttwo years.
It's amazing, All right.
And the G-spot for those of youthat don't know is right inside
your vaginal opening, on likethe stomach side of your vaginal
opening.
Now the A-spot is about twoinches deeper.
Same wall From the G spot haveyou had?

Liberty (06:53):
that I don't know if I have.
If I have, I don't know it.

Annette (06:56):
Okay, I am pretty confident I have.
But in order for my A spot tolight up, my G spot has to light
up first.

Liberty (07:03):
Okay.

Annette (07:04):
All right, o spot, it is on the other side of the
vaginal wall, like between, likethe rectum.
You know the wall that therectum, and the vagina share.

Liberty (07:15):
Oh yeah, I think I've had that.

Annette (07:16):
Yeah, I think so too I mean.

Liberty (07:18):
Again, I didn't know a lot of these terms, so I'm
learning with you all.
Yeah, we're all learning.

Annette (07:24):
I think that I hit the O spot when I'm getting anal sex
.
That's my theory.
So anyways, Isn't that adifferent?
Is that?

Liberty (07:33):
on this list.

Annette (07:34):
Maybe I should keep reading.
Okay, so the P spot, the P spotand the O spot are basically.
I think they're the same thing,is that the point.
No, the P spot is.
It's that my research said.
The P spot and the O spot arelocated close to one another.
I'm not sure how to tell themapart.

(07:54):
Sorry, I actually wrote thatarticle.
So basically you know whatever,Okay, Just try and hit that.
This is not clinical folks.
This is well.
I mean, I did look at researcharticles.
I know, I believe you, but Ican't, I don't know, couldn't
feel it on myself.
The U spot orgasm Now thisone's interesting.
It can be induced bystimulating the sensitive area

(08:16):
around the urethral opening onthe vulva Now that is right, I
believe, below the clitoris,yeah, yeah, between the clitoris
and the vaginal.

Liberty (08:27):
I'm going.
No, no, no, no, do not touchthat spot on me, oh, you don't
like it, that's like sensitive.
No, I love that, no, no, liketoo closely to the urethra that
makes me want to throw up.
Oh, interesting, yeah.
Like when, after having babies,that spot was like very

(08:48):
sensitive and I hated it.
When every time I did swim laps, I could feel like water
gushing over it and it made mewant to throw up.
Wow, yeah, yeah, I've neverwhen you were swimming.
Yeah, like a prolapsed urethrais what it felt.
Like, I guess Is that a thing Idon't know but it was very

(09:09):
uncomfortable.
Thank God, everything bouncedback to normal, but oh no, don't
touch that.
Oh OK, interesting.

Annette (09:17):
I like that.
I like that feeling, and so notonly are you going to get
educated, you're going to learnthat you have to ask women First
of all find out where all ofthese little pieces and parts
are, and then ask her I think Ihave had to redirect a hand or a
tongue away from that spotbefore.

(09:38):
Well, because it's close to theclit.

Liberty (09:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Annette (09:41):
You know, of course I like that feeling and I've
definitely had a youth spotorgasm and sometimes I think I
like them more than the clitorgasms.

Liberty (09:51):
Interesting.

Annette (09:51):
OK, yeah, belended orgasms.
That's where any two spots makeyou come at the time, so it can
be a G spot plus a clitoralorgasm at this.
Have you had that, oh?

Liberty (10:04):
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Penetration and clitoralstimulation at the same time?

Annette (10:10):
Yes, there you go and let's see multiple orgasms.
That's where you just continue.

Liberty (10:16):
I am a multiple orgasm machine.

Annette (10:20):
So it's going to be really useful to find out how to
make Liberty come, because shecomes a lot apparently.
I'm liking you a little bitless right now, liberty.

Liberty (10:32):
OK, squirting orgasm yeah, I'm a squirter.

Annette (10:37):
She's a squirter.
I am not.
We have a podcast episode onthat as well.
I have not had a squirtingorgasm.
I've squirted, but I wasdefinitely not an orgasm.

Liberty (10:48):
Oh, my god, I've had just mind blowing, squirting
orgasms.
That made me almost cry.
I think I have cried, I thinkI've cried, just like your whole
body goes into convulsions.
Almost Was it like a fire hose.
It can be the one particulartime I'm thinking about it.

(11:14):
I squirted up in the air and itlanded on my face.
Yeah, yeah, that was.
That was a whole other podcast,we can talk about it, but that
was when I was hypnotized.
Oh, that is another.
Yeah, I was hypnotized and intosubmission and basically

(11:41):
fingered until I squirted intothe air on my own face and then
cried a lot and then he left.

Annette (11:52):
God damn, I knew it was a man.
Yeah, All right, we'll justcheers to that, cheers to that
Liberty.

Liberty (12:00):
A one off experience.

Annette (12:03):
Nipple orgasm.

Liberty (12:05):
Yes, I have had that, oh my god.
I've had that a few times andit's really wild.
I didn't even know that wassomething that I could do or
have.
It's only a couple, two peopleI can think of that have made
that happen for me not myself,two partners.

Annette (12:27):
But wow, we're going to get back to how that happened,
because I'm sure many of thelisteners are like, wow the fuck
, can I get someone to do that?
So I mean, that has neverhappened to me.
Corgasm, this is a weird one.
It's like, basically you canget it through workouts, like if
you're doing like crunches andstuff.

Liberty (12:46):
Oh my god, you have no no, but I'm like, I can imagine
it.
I can imagine it, can't.

Annette (12:51):
I can't Like sit-ups and lifting weights, and it
sounds like oftentimes they'respontaneous.
Imagine that.
Imagine being at the gym or ina workout class and like just
spontaneously coming from doingsit-ups.
That's wild.

Liberty (13:06):
I can totally imagine that happening.

Annette (13:08):
I'd have a six pack by now.
Just be doing it all the time.
All right, a mental orgasm?
There are people who can,literally, and I have
interviewed someone on thispodcast who believes that just
she can work herself in anorgasm, have you?

Liberty (13:24):
ever done that?
No, but I don't know if it's inyour, if it's the same.
I've had orgasms in my dreamslike for real, Like woke up in
the middle of one, like a wetdream.

Annette (13:36):
I've had it a couple of times.
I wonder if that.
Well, let's keep going, let'ssee if that counts.
There may be the sleep orgasms,anal orgasms.
Have you ever had just an likeno other stimulation.

Liberty (13:50):
Oh, no other stimulation.
I don't know if that's a thingfor women, I know done it to
someone, oh, man, that's hotthat is hot, but I don't know if
I can.
I would say probably, yes.
I would say yeah.
I mean, was there foreplayinvolved?
I'm sure there was to get tothe point of having anal sex.

(14:13):
There's gotta be some otherthings happening touching.
But maybe, yeah, I'm sure I'vehad an anal orgasm without
collateral stimulation at thesame time and probably multiple
orgasms following that.

Annette (14:31):
Yeah, I don't know if I've ever had an anal orgasm
just from anal sex.
However, comma, I know thatit's different, because
sometimes when I have an orgasmduring anal sex, the feeling is
intensely amazing, but in adifferent way than it is when

(14:56):
it's a clitoral orgasm.
So I may be warming myself upwith my clit, well, getting in
the ass.
But that orgasm feels totallydifferent.
It's totally different.

Liberty (15:05):
It's amazing, and but when you're done, you're done
for me, oh God.

Annette (15:11):
I hate the pull out.
I hate the pull out.

Liberty (15:14):
Well, if you're like, if they haven't come yet and
you're done, it can be brutal.
It can be like okay, come on.
Okay, let's sorry this up now,because I'm done now and because
I've had like the most intenseorgasm, and then it's, I'm done.

Annette (15:30):
Yeah, also, my sphincter gets really tight
afterwards and it's like out,out.

Liberty (15:35):
Yes.

Annette (15:36):
Yeah out, An energetic orgasm.
I don't know that I get this somuch.
However, I did a podcastepisode on how to come without
using vibes, and the woman thatI interviewed in that episode
talked about energetic orgasmsand how she could use breathing

(15:59):
or sound to like create thisenergy that created orgasms.
Have you had that?
No no Cervical orgasm.
This sounds like a goddamnnightmare to me.
Yeah, I don't want anyonetouching my cervix during sex.
No, I know.

Liberty (16:17):
And when it happens, yeah, it hurts.

Annette (16:20):
Yeah, I've had to redirect from banging on my
cervix with fingers penises thatare too big, but I have been
with a woman who loved havingher cervix slammed and she had
like a breathing kink.
Like I have gone down thisweird rabbit hole in porn.

(16:45):
Women who like to pretend likethey're getting fucked to be
bred.
And I think that might have todo with the cervix too.

Liberty (16:55):
I mean I could see that .
Yeah, yeah, ew.
Yeah, I mean for me.
I don't know that I've everwanted my cervix slammed, but
I'd like being slammed sometimes, but certain times of the month
, if my cervix is in the wrongplace, like because it lowers.

(17:15):
This is good anatomy foreveryone to know about women's
bodies.
Your cervix lowers and raisesthroughout the month, so when
it's very low it's reallypainful.

Annette (17:26):
And isn't it low when you're ovulating?
Yeah, yeah, because it's downthere waiting to receive the
seed, seed, the seed.
Yes, there you go, getting alot of sex education, even right
now, spontaneous orgasm no.

Liberty (17:45):
No, I mean that's yeah.
I would imagine that happenslike I don't know walking down
the street on a roller coaster,I don't know sitting on the
washing machine.

Annette (17:54):
Yeah, it's so spontaneous.
It just happens withoutstimulation.
You're just like walking aroundand suddenly you're like ah,
and it sounds like they're morecommon during intense situations
, like while you're getting atattoo or blah, blah, blah.

Liberty (18:08):
Oh, okay, okay, I could kind of see that On that note.

Annette (18:12):
On that now, listener, I experienced.
I went to the sex club thisFriday and I experienced e-stem
electrical stimulation.
It's a sex thing and I wasreally taken aback by it.
But so it sounds like that is asituation which I could
understand, that you couldexperience a spontaneous orgasm

(18:34):
and mutual orgasms.
You've come at the same time asyour partner.

Liberty (18:39):
Yeah, yeah.

Annette (18:40):
All right, that's a boring one.
I think so that-.

Liberty (18:43):
I think a lot of people haven't had that, though, so we
want you to know you can haveit too.
I don't know who controls that.
More, do you think?
Oh, I think typically the guyhas to hold back.
Yeah, that's what I wasthinking too.

Annette (18:55):
Yeah, I think the person with the penis we didn't
talk about birth orgasms.

Liberty (18:59):
giving birth, that's a thing.
Did you have one?
No, but I read about it andapparently it can happen, but I
did not.

Annette (19:07):
I'm skeptical.

Liberty (19:08):
Yeah.

Annette (19:09):
I'm at least skeptical.

Liberty (19:11):
I know, I know Well, there is a lot of stuff, a lot
of sensations going on downthere.
So who knows One way to put it?

Annette (19:18):
All right.
So now you know that there aretons of different types of
orgasms.
We've just run you through them.
But let's get to why you'rehere and let's talk about what
actually makes us come.
I just wanna start with isthere anything right off the bat
that you wanna say to listeners?

Liberty (19:36):
this is the key for me to coming, the key to me coming.

Annette (19:43):
I mean for play.

Liberty (19:45):
but that need to be more specific.
Okay, so I say there's a directconnection to my mouth and my
vagina.
If one is getting attention,the other one is probably
getting wet, Like if my mouth isgetting kissed, my vagina is
getting wet.
So there has to be some of that.
I also like to direct mypartners to dipping in the well.

(20:09):
So before any like real directclitoral stimulation, you have
to go dip in the well and see ifI'm wet first and then bring
the wetness to the clitoris.

Annette (20:25):
Dipping with their fingers, with their cock, with
their fingers, with theirfingers.

Liberty (20:29):
Yeah, I mean, and or it usually starts with fingers,
and then oral sex, clitor youknow tongues and then that's a
whole, that's an art form, youknow, you gotta.

Annette (20:46):
Yeah, I don't always like most of the time.
If you do it a long time enough, of course, I will likely have
an orgasm from oral sex, butit's not guaranteed.

Liberty (20:59):
So I want to ask yeah, it's not guaranteed, that's true
, it's the leading up to it,though For me it's.
All of these things areimportant for the leading up to
it.
I think.
I mean, I can go probablystraight to it with my vibrator
with a partner, but I don't know.
That that's you know the best.
That's not the way we want youto teach you how to do it,

(21:20):
because we want you to exploreall the options.

Annette (21:24):
Yeah, right, yeah, for me, what I am realizing and I
feel like even in like the lastyear and the last couple of
years, I've started to learnmore and more it starts for me
before the touching, the realsexy part, has even happened.
I can be turned on or turnedoff.

(21:45):
Let's say I have a partner andI know that our plan is to bang,
and leading up in the hoursleading up to that sex session,
maybe we have an argument or adisagreement or something
happens that rubs me wrong.
That isn't like resolved andthen brought back around to the

(22:10):
sexiness.
It will make it hard for me toto really get into sex.
And you know, I imagine I'vealways been this way and just
never was able to tie it to amoment earlier in the evening or
whatever.
But for me I think there reallyhas to be a setup.

(22:33):
Yes, that leads me to that placeof really being able to get out
of my the thinking part of myhead and into the feeling,
sensational and erotic part ofmy head and body.
And I think it is especiallyMaybe in the hour, the half hour
leading up to getting sex.

(22:54):
You know you're working mewhether you're having a drink
ahead of time or you're layingin bed and talking.
That Period of time is precious.
Yeah, like, do not saysomething snide.
Don't bring up a problem wehaven't yet resolved.
Don't Bring up maybe apolitical topic when we disagree

(23:17):
on.
Like that time is when it'slike you're getting sexy with me
.
Yeah you're saying all thenight's things.
You're making me feel adored.
You're making me feelcomfortable and loved and in
this helping me get in the sexyplace.

Liberty (23:31):
Yeah, yes, and I, yeah, I should back up.
That's really important to metoo in that Was it you I shared
that video with you about likethe guy like banging up against
the girl while she's at thedishwasher and she's like, hey,
let me tell you like this islike we have a million things
going on in our heads.
If we are parents, if we work,if we have pets, if we have

(23:57):
elderly parents, if we have, Imean, we are the Women generally
are the emotional gatekeepersof all the things going on and
Therefore our heads are not justthinking about orgasms all the
time.
I mean, we wish we, but yeah,we've got a lot of other things.
So I think like, yeah, havingthat time to connect and like

(24:21):
Talk through some of the stuffand let go of some of the stress
of, and for me it's talkingthrough, talking through the
things and letting go before Ican't just like shut it off.
I have to, yeah, I've got to bein the right mindset.
I will say that's become somuch easier for me now that my

(24:42):
kids are older I don't know foryou if that has is true.
Yes, it's become so much easier, honestly, being single and not
married as well, there's likeall my shit is my own.
I mean, babe, blame it on, so I, you know I can like more
easily let go of my own stuff.
Then Then holding on towhatever blame or, yeah,

(25:09):
feelings of of being used or Idon't know, like not used, but
like yeah, being the manager ofall the stuff.

Annette (25:17):
Well, I think something I was thinking about.
If we harken back, if we harkenback to our conversation On
going from housewives to hoes, Ithink the key lies there.
I've been thinking about it alot.
There was this just really sexytime in my life when I had just
transitioned and embraced goingfrom a housewife to hoe.
You got to listen to thatepisode and I think it's because

(25:41):
things were socompartmentalized when I started
that experience.
I would be at home doing themom things and then I'd have a
date set up and it was like theescape yes, from all the mom
things, the work things.

Liberty (25:58):
When I would go out on a date.

Annette (26:00):
I would take like an hour, two hours to get ready.
I would dial my, I would take abath, I would dial in my vagina
, I would like do the hair andmakeup, pick an outfit.
I felt so sexy and I felt likeI was so sexy and then I'd go on
the date and and by the time Iwas in the date, all of my other

(26:20):
shit had been left behind.
I was just this sexual being,yeah, looking to you.
Well, hopefully, if the datewas, you know, hot or acceptable
, when I showed up to have sexon Restrained, un shame,
uninhibited sex that in the endI could either reconnect with or

(26:42):
I could walk away from andnever even have to see the
person again, and it was reallyeasy for me to drop into my
sexiest self and to.
I mean, I even sometimes hadorgasms from subpar partners
just because I was feeling sofucking sexually charged.

(27:04):
Yeah, yeah, I can relate to thatand I would just be like, yeah,
yeah, I can relate to that andI would do whatever I want, and
you know, I think, what I'venoticed, it is now I've been,
I've been with a partner forthree years and you know I'm not
compartmentalizing my sexualityat which Is it, I think, a good

(27:26):
thing at this point in my life.
This is not a complaint, butwhat I have learned and you know
, we've experienced together isshifting then from from, because
your relationship then becomespart of the work of life,
because relationships areactually work.
Yeah, so this is going to beuseful for listeners who are in

(27:49):
relationships and wanting tomake their partners come, who
have noticed like I don't knowwhy, bring home flowers and I
tell them there's.

Liberty (27:58):
Bring home flowers.
Come on, bring home somefucking flowers.

Annette (28:02):
I'm one or.

Liberty (28:03):
Joe's.

Annette (28:03):
It's not that expensive , you can do it a little gifty
poo Like, even if it's not theirlove language, you cannot deny
that you know your partner comeshome and they're like oh, I was
out and I saw this little likethis pair of earrings or this
little thing, and and it feelslike you've been thought of.
It's not about the gift, it'sabout you thinking of them, but

(28:24):
I mean, but you've noticed thatyou can't just shift your
partner into like, how do I getsex going?
I try, like I come up and I rubtheir back for a minute and
they're like don't touch me, Idon't want to.
And I think that the challengeis finding a way to shift out of

(28:45):
the mother, the girlfriend, theemployee, the CEO, and into the
fucking hoe, the sexy fuckinghoe.

Liberty (28:57):
And so it's on, I mean I think it's important to say
it's on both parties, it'sladies, it's on you to let some
stuff go.
It's on your partner, to bothof you to say how was your day,
how can I help you relax?
Is there anything I can do foryou that would make you make
your day better?
I feel like those are like somereally important things.

Annette (29:20):
Yeah, and then I think between the time of like, okay,
I'm gonna stop the work, we havea long time and hopefully we're
gonna fuck.
You gotta figure out a way tomake that shift happen.
Yeah Right, yeah, you've gottamake a way, and during that time
is not the time to bringanything up at all, no, or make

(29:42):
any sort of comment that has todo with the work of life or an
issue that's still remainingbetween you or whatever.

Liberty (29:50):
You gotta have that sort of like Linsing period,
linsing period and remember thatyou both need it.
You need it, ladies, just asmuch as he needs it.
You deserve that orgasm.
It's totally, I think a lot ofwomen we all we talked about
this earlier with me likefeeling like I don't deserve

(30:11):
certain pleasures because myhouse is a mess or I haven't
done my laundry or somethinglike that.
But yeah, we do deserve thesefantastic orgasms and it's yeah,
it is a bit of thecompartmentalizing, like putting
away the other stuff out ofyour mind and just letting
yourself enjoy all thesensations.
And hopefully your partner also, yeah, like focuses on not just

(30:38):
the one area, but remember wehave nerve endings all over our
bodies.

Annette (30:42):
All over, our bodies All over.

Liberty (30:44):
I think that's what I'm enjoying the most about my.
I'm in a new relationship rightnow and just the like all over
body touching, just like gettingto know someone's body, and
that's such an early stagerelationship activity, but it
really is important at any stage.

Annette (31:04):
I agree, central touch is something I've realized is a
huge a turn on for me.
So I think something that canstart to get me there is someone
like for me, like running theirhands over my back or in my
hair, shifting into some of thatdirty talk, and not like I'm
pressuring you for sex and Ithink that also is important

(31:29):
like maybe getting sexy andknowing it may not lead to
penetrative sex if you're a guy,or it may not lead to oral sex
or grinding if you have anotherfemale partner.
Like just enjoying the intimacythat you get to have and really
getting into that and thenseeing if it moves to the next

(31:55):
level.
You know, I think somethingthat kind of turns me on is if
I'm cuddling with someone andthey start running, I don't wear
a bra anymore.
Folks.
Sometimes when I'm makingvideos I do.
I don't have big boobs and I'vedecided like I think it's
really sexy when I see otherwomen with smaller boobs like me
and they don't have bras on.
It makes me want to like touchtheir boobies.

(32:17):
So I was like, well, if theylook like that, maybe I do, but
I think it's really sexy, likethat feeling of someone kind of
slipping their hand under myshirt and just like like
pressing my belly and then maybelike feeling the nipple, you
know, then it's just a hint.
It's like a hint, but it worksbest when I don't feel like,

(32:39):
okay, now I'm expected to fuckLike I have to like get there.

Liberty (32:47):
Yeah, you have to get there.
I know it's true, you've got toget there.
I mean, these days it's rarefor me to not want to get there
and luckily I feel safe enoughwith my partners to say if I'm
not up for it, but it doesn'tmean I don't want this sensual
touch at all Well.

Annette (33:07):
So you just also gave like.
You want to make a woman, come.
You want to make someone with avulva come.
Make them feel safe.
Yes, safe to say yes, safe tosay no.
Safe to say.
Stop.
Safe to say more.
Safe to say.
I want you to do somethingfucking dirty to me tonight.
You know, I think that if thereis a takeaway from this podcast

(33:29):
episode, your job is to makeyour partner feel safe in
whatever they are ready for, notready for in your time together
sexually.

Liberty (33:41):
Yeah, what do you like?
Like this is such a valuablequestion.
What do you like?
I mean, ask her what do youlike, have her tell you what she
likes.
And you know, ladies, ask himwhat do you like, have him tell
you what he likes.
It's very sexy.

Annette (33:58):
But can I also say that for me?
And not everyone have thoseconversations prior to actually
being in the sex mode.

Liberty (34:08):
Oftentimes, and I understand, why I meant well
beforehand.

Annette (34:13):
But have you not had a partner in the middle of sex who
says what do you want, or whatdo you like, or how do you like
it?
And that also fucks me up,because then I go from being in
my body to being in my head andI'm like what do I like?
And then I'm like do I likethat?
Then I get very analytical andmy click goes okay, head back

(34:34):
inside for a while.

Liberty (34:35):
Yeah right, that's true .
I can relate to that.

Annette (34:38):
Unless you have a way to do it really sexy like and
you know what I do want.
I want to bring on a guest whocan really teach me how to dirty
talk.

Liberty (34:48):
Oh God, I love dirty talk.
You talk dirty, yeah.
Can you do a little Can I do alittle?
I can write it better than Ican say it, but do you say it
during?
Sex.
Yeah, yes, I mean, I say I am atalker, I'm a talker.

Annette (35:07):
Do you have a go-to?

Liberty (35:08):
phrase I mean I love your cock, I don't say it like
that.
I'm coming, I'm coming, I'mcoming, that's one of my-.

Annette (35:17):
Oh, you do say when you're coming, I do, I do Big
time.
I should take that more.
I have been given a complaint.

Liberty (35:23):
I scream it.
I mean, I'm screaming, I'm theloudest person, I am so fucking
loud Like I don't know how allmy neighbors I got in trouble in
the duplex when I first movedout of my house.
I had a.
I shared a bedroom wall with mynext door neighbor and she
texted me and asked me if Icould keep my quote unquote

(35:46):
activities to before 9 pmbecause she had to work the next
day.
And then I proceeded to tellher that I knew her entire
routine that she and herboyfriend kept.
Oh, did she hate you?
Yeah, she was prettyembarrassed.
I was like, listen, it goesboth ways.
Like I know that you guys yousmoke pot and then you laugh and

(36:11):
then you start kissing, like-and then what, and then what,
okay.
And then you start having sexLike I, yeah, but anyway, she
moved out before the lease wasup and I asked her if it seemed
abrupt and I asked her if I hadanything to do with it and she
said not, not specifically, butshe took her chance to leave

(36:31):
when she could because she wasnot getting enough sleep.
That's hilarious.

Annette (36:37):
I mean, I get it, I get it but where were we?

Liberty (36:41):
Okay loud, I'm loud dirty talk I love dirty talk.

Annette (36:46):
I like to be talked dirty to and every once in a
while.
Like I can stand in my powerand I can get into dirty talk.
I feel like I'm better at dirtytalk when I'm in a dominant
role.
I'm not as good at it when I'min more of a submissive role,
which is kind of weird becausesometimes, like that, that's a
super exciting role for me, butthen I feel awkward like saying

(37:10):
those things.

Liberty (37:12):
Oh yeah, no, I definitely can get into it both
directions, because I mean, somewomen I've been with, I've felt
more dominant, and so I can be,I can say things that are yeah.

Annette (37:26):
I just wanna like watch you have sex and take notes.
I feel like I've known you fora while now.
We've talked about sex so muchand I like try to picture you in
these situations and I have ahard time picturing, I know.

Liberty (37:40):
I look so sweet yeah, you do and innocent and she's
not she's not yeah, and I haveone partner that doesn't really
talk and it's been hard.
He knows that I want it andhe's tried a little bit.
I mean, I give him credit fortrying, but it's just not part

(38:03):
of him.
He's just not a talker and thatis so hard for me.
I want more words.
I like wanna hear I love it toothat I'm sexy and beautiful and
that you wanna fuck me andasking me if I wanna take your
cock and all those things.
I want to hear it.

(38:24):
I love it, it's great.

Annette (38:26):
And that stuff in advance definitely turns me on
Like someone who really knowshow to say the things and get me
there.
Unfortunately, I realize that Ifeel like I feel like when I'm
feeling sexy, I'm good atstarting the mood in the right.

(38:47):
So I don't know, guys,Basically I think what we're
saying is know how to initiatethe mood, the transition time.
Don't fuck it up by sayingsomething dumb.
Take classes on how to talksexy.
Not that I've done that, but Ineed to and like I think as a
persona, you've gotta own, Likeyou gotta step into your sexual

(39:10):
self, put your sex talk voice onand like get into it.

Liberty (39:17):
Yeah, I love your body, I love the way you are with me.

Annette (39:22):
Specific compliments too.
All right, so let's get youmore orgasmic stuff.
Can I talk from the position ofhaving made women come?

Liberty (39:35):
Yeah, sure, I don't even know if I've made that.
Have I made that many womencome?
I don't know.

Annette (39:41):
Okay, yes, please.

Liberty (39:42):
I have a good track record.
Yeah, okay.

Annette (39:44):
I mean it's so funny because I am very proud of my
track record of making womencome.
However I have it, it's not.
It doesn't translate to datingwomen as easy for me.
It's just like once we're inbed, I'm like I fucking know
what I'm doing.
Like let me take care of you.
Just lie back, you dirty littlebitch.
Yes, yeah, maybe that's where Ireally like there you go, there

(40:07):
you go.
And I've been shocked at yeah,like I feel really confident in
that area and I think part of itis I'm just really into the
pussy that I'm dealing with andI think that that feels really
good.
I also know from my ownexperience, like knowing that

(40:28):
someone is really into my pussyand my body turns me on, and I
think what you said earlier issuper important, like first of
all, she's gotta be in the moodand ready to go.
And then, you know, even inthose first, especially with
first time or someone you're newto but there's always, I think,

(40:50):
a little bit ofself-consciousness oftentimes
that comes into our bodies, likeoh, someone's looking at my
pussy, they're about to touch itor taste it or whatever, and I
think I feel like it's veryimportant to take that
nervousness away.
Whether I tend to step into mymore dominant like this is what

(41:11):
I want to dirty talking about it.
But what I've found oftentimesis just like rubbing around,
like the mound of the pussyfirst and the thighs, while
making out with them andspreading their legs open and
then like just running myfingers over the top of the clit

(41:34):
and the lips, not like right onthe clit, but just like letting
the pussy know, let the pussyknow we're heading in a
direction and I'm not in a rush,but it's time to wake up, baby.
Like it's time to wake up, babe, and like during this time you

(41:55):
can be making out like you said,the making out like the lip to
pussy thing.
That's a thing for me andthat's why I like 69.
Cause I love like having a cockin my mouth and then having
someone like sucking on my clitat the same time.
But you know you can be makingout.

Liberty (42:10):
That's like too much simulation.
I just want to focus on onething at a time.
Ooh, I want to both.

Annette (42:17):
Or you can be like sucking on tits or whatever, and
then you do the dip stick testright.
And I'm always really gentleCause.
One thing I know on my own bodyis if someone with dry fingers,
especially if you're a guy andyou do any hard labor, if you
have hands that are rough, firstof all lotion up ahead of time,

(42:41):
yeah, and you stick, and youjust push a finger in, you will
make Cut your nails.
Oh, cut your nails and washyour hands you will.
But you can make that skin rawreally fast just by shoving your
finger in like one time andit's not ready.
So I always like really take mytime putting my finger in, that

(43:02):
I'm like very, and if it'ssuper dry I'll angle it, cause
sometimes it will still be dryon the edges.
But then if you angle yourfinger back more towards the
anus or the perineum and thenyou go in from that way, that
skin isn't as fragile.
So you're putting your pressuremore on the perineum and then

(43:24):
you dip your finger in and youfeel a little bit of moistness.
You can kind of get in thereand you can start drying it out
along that vaginal opening andthat I did not know this.
I'm getting squiggly in my seat.
I know it's a little bit of aturn on, isn't it?
Sexy as fuck me too.
I'm like God damn it.
But no, the thing I justlearned with a sex toy.

(43:47):
I have reviewed that will be upby the time this podcast goes
out for the rave to G-spot andclit stimulator.
I learned while researching forthat cause.
I put a lot of effort into myreviews that the vaginal opening
, from the vaginal opening, thatskin leading from the vagina to

(44:08):
the clit, it has, like, morenerves than most of the areas of
the vagina.
It's a very erotic area that iscompletely under attended to
because, everyone's going forthe G-spot or the clit, but if
you start drying, the wetness up, along that place and playing

(44:30):
in that area and then dippingback in and then draw the
wetness up and dip don't shoveyour finger all the way in.
No, not at first, you know.
I mean you were just at theopening like dipping, and then
you get it all the way up to theclit and then by that time
you're, trust me, like shit'shappening down there, right, and
then you get the clit wet andyou play with it and then you

(44:51):
like really start to go a littlebit deeper.
I have found that that goespretty well.
Now I don't have a dick, trustme, I wish I did, but I imagine
like a little bit of time doingthat and she's gonna be
interested in your cock.

Liberty (45:08):
Yeah, yeah, definitely I think so I mean, and sometimes
I'm ready at that point forcock but, mostly I want a lot of
fingers before I want a cock.

Annette (45:21):
Do you like the slow addition of fingers?

Liberty (45:24):
Like you mean what you just described.
Well, like so I would startAdding more than one finger.

Annette (45:29):
Yeah, like I think it's really hot.
Like you know you're, I alwaysstart with one finger at that
period, yeah, and then if I feelsomeone.
So another thing that I a trickit's not really a trick and
maybe we've talked about it.
Here is the if you're payingattention, as you dip your

(45:50):
finger in to get more fluid, youwill start to feel that flesh,
the G spot-ish area.
It starts to swell up and getpuffy.

Liberty (46:01):
So yeah, I don't have enough experience for that.
And then, as it starts to getpuffy, even on my own body, yeah
, Then you ask would you likeanother finger?
Would you like to try two Okay?

Annette (46:12):
And sometimes they're like, no, yeah, just stay at
that.
And then sometimes they're like, yes, I want more Okay.

Liberty (46:20):
Okay, good to know, good to know.
This is good learning lessonsfor me as well.
Yeah.

Annette (46:26):
But I think that that's like you start with a mood and
then you start with, like playwith the pussy, pet her pet her,
dip your finger in, but don't,like, don't fuck that, like,
don't fuck up that flesh theskin.
It's not flesh, it's a wet theskin.

Liberty (46:42):
Yeah.

Annette (46:43):
Vaginal opening skin, the skin.
Yes, if you heard it right away, yeah, no, then it's no good.

Liberty (46:50):
I like, then, someone to really examine, like, look at
my pussy, look at it, like,examine it, see how beautiful it
is.
Like you were saying earlier,talk about it, talk to it, yeah,
and then slowly start, you know, putting your tongue on the

(47:16):
side of the clitoris.
That is, I think, what wherethe magic spot is.
It's not like directly on it,it's not like pulling back the
hood, and no, it's like on theside of the hood.
Is that right for you two?

Annette (47:31):
Yeah, I don't like when people try to pull the hood
back.

Liberty (47:35):
Like I mean, what do you do that feels?

Annette (47:36):
a little rough.
I am a big fan of yeah, theskin all the way around with the
clitoris.
So that would be the hood oneither side.

Liberty (47:47):
Yeah, so once you've like, established a good
continuous motion, it doesn'thave to be too vigorous, it
doesn't have to be too slow, butnot too fast, not too hard, not
too light.
It's gotta be like this, evenpressure, definitely not too
hard, though.

Annette (48:08):
No, then it gets raw.

Liberty (48:10):
Yeah, then it gets raw, and then you insert a finger
while you're doing that.
Yeah, that's awesome, and thenyou maybe insert another finger.

Annette (48:19):
But not all the way, just don't shove it all the way
in.
Like, just start with the tip.

Liberty (48:24):
Yeah, yeah, start with the tip.
See how that feels for her.
I do want.
I don't want your finger justsitting there, though with the
opening you need to be moving itback and forth.

Annette (48:36):
That's something we talked about in my podcast on
chronic pain and sex is micromovement, sex Sex.
Something that I think applieshere, especially once you've got
the clip warmed up, is and ifyou put a penis in a penis I

(48:58):
hate that word, but if you put adick in and you do kind of just
the tip and by this timeobviously the G spot, is woken
up and ready to go, then I liketo just do little little
movements while writing the tipof the dick right there and like
flicking my own clip on top.

(49:19):
I mean, if the guy in this casewants to help with the clip
stimulation, fine, but I thinkit's a little more difficult for
him, and then that micromovement as I start to get
closer to orgasm will get biggerand then I'll start going
deeper, and that's when the Aspot wakes up, and then I start
going really deep.
But then I may like even slowdown and do like small little

(49:43):
movements.

Liberty (49:43):
I think it's and are you imagining these little
movements?
Where are you?
Are you laying down?

Annette (49:49):
I can do that better.
I can do it from on top, I cando it from actually to be fair
and honest if I am on bottom.
I like both top and bottom.
If I'm on bottom, then I'minstructing my partner just to
do small movements and I canhelp.
But the person with the penishas to do it's definitely a hip

(50:13):
workout.
It is yeah, he's definitelybeen sore after words.
I've heard that a bit lately.
I'm like he'll start to godeeper and I'll be like no, and
I'm like I like being on thebottom because I will be rubbing
my clit and looking at mypartner getting some eye candy,
because it's a great way to viewyour partner.

(50:34):
You can see their chest boobies, if they have them their abs,
while they're thrusting very,very small thrusts and hitting
your G-spot and, at the sametime, if you have a vibrator or
if you have a clit sucker whichis my favorite you can be having

(50:55):
that thing suck on your clitwhile they're just like fucking,
doing those little movementsand then they get faster and
deeper when you're like I wantmore, and then you're just like
fuck me right as you come.
That's how I come.
Wow, I just kind of acted thatout.

Liberty (51:11):
You did that was very sexy.
That is how I come Interesting.
I am not.
I don't do the little movements.
I have never instructed anyoneto do that as much, but I have
experienced it.
I feel like, without even Idon't know my new partner.

(51:32):
I think he does that, I thinkhe is doing that and I like it.
He's probably gonna listen tothis.
I do like it.
I don't think it's anythingwe've talked about, though.
Yeah, that wasn't part of Imean, I just haven't.
Yeah, it's been like more deepthrusting, but it is really.
It is really.
It's the tease, right, it's alittle bit of the tease, the

(51:55):
leading up to it, I guess.
I also want to dispel any mythsthat a woman shouldn't use her
vibrator any fucking time shewants to come while you're
having sex.
100%, it's okay.
It doesn't mean she's dependenton it.
It doesn't mean anything at all.

(52:16):
It means it's a tool forpleasure, right?
Yes, yeah, I've had aconversation with some friends
recently where we walked.
My other friend and I walkedaway and my friend said I feel
so sorry for her.
She you know that she has touse her vibrator.
I was like what?
I don't feel sorry for thatever.

(52:36):
No, like, I feel sorry for youIf you're not using one every
time, because vibrators arefucking awesome.
That's what they're made for,right?

Annette (52:45):
Yeah, I mean I don't know why you wouldn't use fun
stuff Like think about any otherthing you do for enjoyment.
Most of the things you do forenjoyment you have equipment you
get to enhance the experience,whether it's yoga or bike riding
or four-wheeling.

(53:06):
Or I mean it's hard for me tothink of something that you do
for pleasure and fun andentertainment in which you don't
get something else to enhanceit.
Yeah right, you know, yes, Icould definitely.
I can definitely have an orgasmwith a partner, with us just
using our hands to touch my clitwhile I'm getting fucked.

(53:29):
But you know, having thislittle clit sucker, I can just
stick on my clit, work less andjust be in my body and mind
enjoying the situation, like whywouldn't I do that?
Yeah, of course.

Liberty (53:41):
Yeah, so no, no, yeah, everyone out there listening,
it's just.
And if you're not using toys,yes, 100%.
Go follow the links after thispodcast to go buy some.

Annette (53:56):
And the thing about having a variety of toys, and
ice would suggest have avibrator, have a clit sucker,
have some anal toys as long asyour partner is okay with that,
you might wanna talk to themahead of time.
They help you explore your bodyas a vulva owner, right, and we

(54:18):
are talking about vulva how tomake vulva owners and women come
that's what we're talking abouthere, Like there's a whole
different discussion.
I also have toys for men andpeople with penises, but I think
I, because of how many toysI've had to test and because of
my 365 days of orgasmsexperience, I've learned so many

(54:41):
.
It's kind of like we'vementioned.
I like the urethral opening, Ilike the skin around the clit.
Like Liberty was saying, peoplego straight for the clit and
the G spot and there are so manyareas around it.

Liberty (54:58):
Yeah, yeah, we haven't talked about, like you and I
haven't talked about analanything right now.

Annette (55:05):
We should talk about anal, because I have, because I
really have intense, wonderfulorgasms with anal things.

Liberty (55:12):
Same same.
I love it, and yet it's notsomething that happens all the
time, because I do think, ifwe're honest, it takes some
preparation.
Do you think so?

Annette (55:22):
Oh, fuck yeah, yeah, you don't just go for the butt,
you don't just go for it.

Liberty (55:26):
No, I wanna make sure I'm not alone in that, Because
it's not something we talk aboutwith our friends every single
day but, no, I mean, yeah, ittakes some preparation, but I
love it and, yeah, I wish itwere something that happened all
the time and like I wish mypartners licked my butt more.

(55:48):
But I have to prepare for thatRight.

Annette (55:51):
so can you have an orgasm from getting a room job?
It's called a room job, Ibelieve.

Liberty (55:55):
Yes, I don't know if I can.
Probably not an orgasm.
Maybe if I was, like, hadclitoral stimulation at the same
time, it would definitely be adifferent kind of orgasm, right
so I also can have an orgasmeasier when I have like a butt
plug-in or something like that.

Annette (56:19):
So if you want to give your girl a great orgasm and
she's opened a butt play,getting to the point where you
can put a butt plug in her,prior well, I don't know, maybe

(56:39):
we need to talk about that.
Obviously, you wanna warm her upa little bit.
You wanna get sexy, get themood sexy, make out, maybe do
the little wake the pussy up alittle bit.
But what I have found I like todo when my partner and I do
that is I lay back on the bedand a pillow under my lower back
so that you know I have a wedge, yeah, wedge that's smart.

Liberty (57:02):
I don't have a wedge.
My partner got it for me forChristmas last year.

Annette (57:06):
That is brilliant.
I would love to have a wedge,so I guess I need to look into
those.
And obviously you've gotta havelube.
I've also prepared for itearlier in the night, which
means for me I do like a verylow key enema.
I'm not talking about enema upinto my inner guts.
No, no.
I'm talking about squeezebottles A little squirt squirt,

(57:29):
little squirt squirt, which Iactually feel pretty good
afterwards.

Liberty (57:32):
I do too.

Annette (57:32):
yeah, I think it's a good thing.

Liberty (57:34):
I do too.

Annette (57:35):
Mm-hmm, and there are.
You can buy squirt bottles andlittle enema bottles for butt
play so you're clean and you'renot worried about poop as much.
And then I get a clit suckerand I put it on my clit, my
pussy, I like pleasure air, andhe gets out the lube and he sits

(57:56):
there and he slowly puts thetip in and pulls it out and
slowly puts it in, you know, andasks me and then tells me I'm a
good girl because I'm takingmore, all of that stuff which is
really hot.
And like I can get really closeto orgasm just from that
experience.

Liberty (58:14):
Yeah, you really.
I think you have to have theclitoral stimulation to relax
enough for it to all work out.

Annette (58:22):
Yeah, but that's like orgasmic if you wanna make her
come and she's open to.
I think there's something aboutbutt play too.
That's just the taboo nature ofit is pretty exciting, it's
pretty hot yeah, for sure, forsure.
But so I don't think I well, Idon't think rimming is a big
part of my current sex life.

Liberty (58:44):
It's not part of mine either.
It's happened like a few timesin my life.
And you've loved it?

Annette (58:49):
Yeah, but I also yeah, I had a partner who loved to eat
ass, like he ate my ass, likeit was fucking pie.

Liberty (59:01):
That's hilarious.

Annette (59:02):
That is hilarious.
He would just went in, but Idon't know if it never gave me
an orgasm.

Liberty (59:07):
Yeah.

Annette (59:08):
So let's round up, okay .
This has been a conversationthat has spanned a lot of shit.
We gave you all the differenttypes of orgasms that are out
there and we're gonna startsumming up.
You know I'm not gonna re-listthe 17 types of orgasms that we
mentioned, but I think when itcomes to making us come, it

(59:31):
comes to making us come.
For me, and I think you too oneof the most important things is
helping us get out of ournon-sexual selves and there's so
many parts to our non-sexualselves.
So creating this sort ofbarrier to that world and the

(59:52):
sexy world and letting us getinto our whole.

Liberty (59:55):
Yeah, yeah, safety, making us feel safe.

Annette (59:59):
Oh yeah, making us feel safe.
And what were the tips formaking us feel safe?
Having those conversations inadvance?

Liberty (01:00:08):
Yeah, yeah, having conversations, yes, just letting
us be ourselves.

Annette (01:00:13):
Yeah, yeah, telling us that if, at any point, we want
to stop you're okay with thatRight, it's not going to be
personal.
And I'll tell you what.
You can ruin the safety piecereally quick by getting butt
hurt the first time that sheshuts you down.

Liberty (01:00:28):
It's true.
It's true.

Annette (01:00:30):
But guys will always be like I'm not pushing you.
Whatever happens happens andit's great.
And then the first time you'relike, yeah, I'm not quite there,
it becomes this big issue andinstantly we know that we're not
safe to shut things down orwe're going to be punished on
some level if we shut thingsdown, or it's going to be a big
deal.
What we need to know is, if weshut it down, it's like you

(01:00:50):
check in and you're like, okay,are you okay, is there anything
you need?
And it's done.
Yeah, it's not like the nexttwo weeks, right, like
something's wrong, obviously.

Liberty (01:00:59):
Right, yeah, you didn't want to fuck me two weeks ago.

Annette (01:01:03):
Right, right, and then you've ruined the safety.
Yeah Right, that's true.

Liberty (01:01:10):
So making us feel safe and then just setting the mood
like the sensual touch.
The sensual touch.

Annette (01:01:21):
One thing I didn't add about the sensual touch that I
have learned this year is thatwhen I'm working on coming
meaning I'm having sex and likehoping to have an orgasm and
let's say I'm on my back and mypartner's in front of me doing
the micro movements, I havefound that if someone, someone,
the person who's inside of me,runs their fingers lightly over

(01:01:45):
my lower belly and the mound ofmy vagina, holy shit or like
start sucking or flicking myboobs.
That's all sensual stuff, thatsensual play, yes, explore her
body.

Liberty (01:01:59):
Oh yeah, we didn't talk about nipple orgasms, okay.

Annette (01:02:02):
Yeah, I haven't had one .
Oh, you had a nipple orgasm.
We're going to back up for asecond.
How'd that?

Liberty (01:02:07):
happen.
Mine have always been mestraddling the person facing
them and kissing and like sortof like dry humping.
One of the times at least, Iwas fully clothed when it
happened, I mean, I think my topwas off, my bra was off, but

(01:02:28):
and it was just like these arehow my big my nipples are people
see.

Annette (01:02:34):
You got to go to YouTube.
You got to go to YouTube.
You're not moving.

Liberty (01:02:37):
But yeah, this like rolling, just this like gentle
rolling in between their fingersrhythmically, but not too hard,
not too soft, and I don't knowif it's just like the right
timing, because I mean,sometimes I think that can get

(01:02:58):
to be too much and I just canhave an orgasm from that.
It's so wild, it is just wow.
Well, it's a different kind.
It is like that body orgasm.
It feels amazing.
I haven't had it in a while.

Annette (01:03:17):
So I mean that goes back to sensual touch.

Liberty (01:03:20):
Yeah, totally.

Annette (01:03:21):
It's just exploring the body and touching it and
finding a place on the body thatlights someone up and then
continuing to light it up.

Liberty (01:03:31):
Yeah, and then like, following that with some
penetration is pretty amazing.

Annette (01:03:39):
Yeah, so sensual touch guys.
And again, that's somethingyou've got to talk to a person
about ahead of time.
Some people don't like thelight touch, they like scratches
or they like their touch donedifferently.
So, talking in advance topeople about how do you like to

(01:04:00):
be touched, what areas don't youwant touched?
I've been known to like torturesome nipples, not knowing it
was torturing someone who waslike don't touch my nipples,
yeah, okay.

Liberty (01:04:12):
Yeah, and yeah.
There's been times when mynipples are off limits, like it
doesn't feel good.
I feel like the key to that,the nipple orgasm, was
simultaneous.
Touching Only one at a time isnot going to get it, not there
for me.
Two hands, guys, it's like toomuch on one side.

(01:04:36):
Right, I need the simultaneousthing.

Annette (01:04:39):
Yeah, and if you're watching on YouTube you would
have known that because she isover here like doing the little
nipple rolling dance on ourtitties.
Then we talked about the slowapproach to the vagina and a
quote from Rose Covenant, who Iinterviewed for the chronic pain

(01:05:04):
and sex podcast episode, andshe said I tell new partners to
approach my pussy Like she's awild animal.
If you move too fast you'regoing to scare off, and once
you've scared her off, right,that's it.
She's not coming back from that.
And so I think that that's kindof what we talked about in my

(01:05:26):
story about how I approach apussy yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
And then, and what did you callit?
The?

Liberty (01:05:34):
dipstick test.
I call it dipping in the wellor the honey pot.
I like honey pot.
Yeah, sort of just like alittle dip to and drawing it up.
You got to draw up that witnessand spread it all around All
over the place.
Yeah, way more sexy than somedry rubbing.

Annette (01:05:56):
And don't hurt the skin right Right and that leads into
the vaginal canal, that vaginalopening.
The skin there is tender.
Don't bring your callousedfingers to that area and shove
it in when it's dry, becausethat's it, that's it.

Liberty (01:06:14):
That's all over, folks.

Annette (01:06:15):
Totally yeah.

Liberty (01:06:17):
Lube, lube is so yeah, we don't think we emphasized how
important lube is to.
We did not Shame on us, it's soimportant.

Annette (01:06:24):
Yeah, so you need to have that available, because
sometimes some women don'tproduce enough fluid either way,
and then you can actually stilldo that dipping in the well,
using the lube and drawing it up.

Liberty (01:06:39):
If a man doesn't own lube, like that is an immediate
turn off.
For me it's immediate like oh,you don't know, you don't know
what you're doing, you don'tknow how to touch a woman.

Annette (01:06:48):
Like you have to own it .

Liberty (01:06:50):
You have to have it on hand.

Annette (01:06:52):
So if you do not own lube right now, it says you need
to really listen to thispodcast from day one.

Liberty (01:07:03):
It's problematic.
It is problematic for sure.
Yeah, be willing to try newthings.
Yes, be willing to try newthings.

Annette (01:07:13):
Be open to new things that you thought were weird
before.
You know, if she brings upsomething, don't yuck her.
Yum, don't react strangely.
You can freak out.
Just wait until you turn on,work through it on your own.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and becauseshe's not going to come as she's

(01:07:36):
bored.
If you are boring her, she'snot going to come, and also.

Liberty (01:07:43):
I mean, you also want to be.
Don't be afraid to takedirection.
Don't be afraid to takedirection.
That's important.
Yeah, it is.
I mean.
Yeah, don't be scared ofsomething you have never
experienced or tried before.
Yeah.

Annette (01:08:02):
If she says do this to me.

Liberty (01:08:04):
And you're not sure.
You can be sexy about it.
You can be like show me, showme.
Oh, I like that.
Yeah, show me what you want.
Take her hand with your hand.
If she's asking you to dosomething and you're not sure
and involves hands, have hertake your hand with your hand
and show you what she wants.

Annette (01:08:24):
I love that tip.
Instead of saying to her how doyou like it Do?

Liberty (01:08:28):
you want it faster or slower?
Yeah, no, no.

Annette (01:08:31):
Say show me yeah In a sexy way, because I know that
when I get asked those questionsit really can frustrate me
because I'm trying really hardto be in my body and if you're
asking me analytical questionsit takes me out of the
experience and something weshould have mentioned maybe

(01:08:53):
first of all.
If you are penetrating a woman,you're doing a thing and
suddenly she says I'm about tocome, do not change what you're
doing.

Liberty (01:09:07):
Oh, that's right.
Oh yes, that was on a memerecently.
It was, and it was so important.
And here's the thing.

Annette (01:09:14):
We've been telling you this forever and you still
fucking do it.
You still fucking do it.
You still change what you'redoing.

Liberty (01:09:21):
Don't fucking change a thing.
No, if she says she's about tocome, keep doing the thing,
She'll say faster deeper, she'lltell you if she wants you to
change it up.

Annette (01:09:33):
Yeah right, yes, if she doesn't say faster, if she
doesn't say deeper, and she'sjust like, I'm going to come,
stay where you're at.
Or you can ask, you can say ifyou've been holding back, you
can say, can I come with you?
Or, but still still don't.
That's not where you don't getexcited about yourself.

(01:09:55):
Let her tip over the edge, getwell into her orgasm and then,
like you can, you know, get moreof.
And for me I don't know aboutyou Liberty, but as soon as I
come, I'm like fuck me Now, I'mlike fuck me.
Yes, fuck me now Now you justhave have your way with me.
Sometimes I'll take the clitstimulation off and I'll be like

(01:10:16):
just pound me for the next hour.
Yeah, I'm, I'm good you know.
And then maybe after 10 minutesof being pounded, I'll stick
the clit sucker back on and I'llcome again.

Liberty (01:10:25):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, but don't change, don't
change, nope, don't change.

Annette (01:10:32):
I mean sometimes we tend to, we're like oh, I
totally just start humpingfaster when, when, when I hear
I'm like he's like, he's like,oh, I'm so close, okay.

Liberty (01:10:41):
All right.

Annette (01:10:44):
Let's go, buddy, let's go, let's go.
Yeah, wait, do you think it isthe same Are?

Liberty (01:10:48):
we not supposed to do that?
I don't know.
This is a good question.
Well, maybe we'll get somefeedback.

Annette (01:10:54):
Penis owners, guys, men , answer this question when you
say to us I'm about to come, I'mgetting close.
Do you want us to go faster?
Do you want us to keep doingwhat we're?

Liberty (01:11:05):
doing Like, if we're getting you a blow job, should
we stick to the stick to therhythm?
Do we stay with it?

Annette (01:11:10):
Yeah, Cause there's nothing worse than when
someone's like and usually it'swhen you're going down on them
cause they know our jobs canonly handle that song.
They'll be like I'm so closewhen you say that to us.
Shall we keep doing what we'redoing, or should we do it Like?
I'm just like oh, I guess Ineed to do it harder and faster
to get this the fuck over with.
What do you want?

Liberty (01:11:30):
Yes, we need to know.

Annette (01:11:32):
We do need to know.
On that note, if you havequestions, comments, revelations
, you think we got it wrong.
You want us to go more in depth?
You can leave me a voicemail.
I now have a voicemail.
That's so exciting you justscroll down and the link is
going to always be in thedescription of this podcast.
You can also go to locker roomtalk podcastcom and it's right

(01:11:58):
there.
You just hit the button, youdon't.
You don't have to share yourname.
I will not share your voice.
I will protect your anonymity.
If you want to give me a funnyname, I'll use it.
If you want me to use yourfirst name because you want to
hear me say your name, I will dothat.
But just leave those questionsand Liberty and I will come back
and address all the questionswe get.

(01:12:19):
That sounds great, yeah, allright.
Well, so I think we've at leasthelped you understand where to
start.
If you're hoping to make hercome, if you're hoping to have
really good sex, we've given youthe biggies.
The biggies are in this podcast, and I'm sure that there are
tons of other tips that we couldgive you, and I'm sure we will

(01:12:43):
in the future, but until then,try these out and let us know
how it goes.
Did you make her come?
That's what I want to know.
Yes, did you make her come?
Did you make her come?
Hope you did.
Yeah, and until next time we'llsee you in the locker room.
Bye, cheers, cheers.
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