#130 - Laksh Chopra - Still Undecided? Here's How to Actually Pick the Right College Major - Long Term Podcast

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All right. Welcome, Laksh Chopra, everyone.
Hey everybody. So what habits or mindset shifts
have helped you stay disciplined, especially when
motivation fades? Sure.
So I think where a lot of peoplego wrong is they wait for
motivation to happen in order for an action to occur.

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Like for example, let's say if you want to go to the gym at
5:00 AM, right? And if you're someone who has
never gone to the gym or he'd never gone to the gym that
early, you're not just going to wake up at 4:59 at 5:00 when the
clock strikes 5:00. You're not just going to have a
light bulb go off in your head that, OK, I'm going to get up,
I'm going to get ready, I'm going to go to the gym.
That does not happen. Instead, you got to break down

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that one big goal into smaller actions which will then 'cause
motivation through a snowball effect.
For example, don't think of it as going to the gym at 5:00 AM.
Think of it as getting out of your bed at 5:00 AM, getting
into your workout clothes at 5 O1:00 AM, getting brushed,
getting like changed everything at like 5 O 3:00 AM, right?
When you break it down into those smaller tasks, each task

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will give you the kind of proof that you are able of you're
capable of accomplishing something, which will then fuel
the motivation that, OK, if I did this one thing, that means I
can do the second step. If you do the second step, that
means you're capable of doing the third step.
And when you break it down like that, you're able to really
tackle your goals and really tackle your kind of plan of
attack in a way where motivationis arbitrary.

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It's only the action which will then further cause motivation,
right? Same thing when you apply it to
like reading a book. I personally haven't read a lot
of books. I would really like to get in
the habit, but I'm not gonna just say, OK, I'm gonna sit
down. I'm gonna have a 250 page book
in front of me and just set a timer for four hours and try to
get through this whole thing. It does not work like that.
Instead, I'm gonna say step one.I'm gonna just sit down and I'm

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gonna open the book. That's all I'm gonna do.
Step 2, I'm just gonna flip to the first chapter and read the
first sentence. That's it.
The thing is, when you break it down into such a small step, you
can't help but carry it on further.
You're not just gonna read 1 sentence of a book, you're gonna
read maybe the second sentence and the third sentence, and that
turns into paragraphs, and then it turns into pages and chapters
when you break it down into the smaller steps.

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Your motivation gets added on through every individual small
action you take. It's like those little steps,
say, instead of making it out tobe this grand scale, and it's
scary, man. You're looking at that mountain
and it's just like, how am I supposed to climb this?
But if you take one step and then another and then another,
and then you're enjoying each step, and you're marking that as

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progress, as victory, right, That you've come far farther
than you were 30 seconds ago. Absolutely.
Next thing you know, you're halfway through and might as
well keep going and then keep going.
And then a lot of people, I'm sure you're a big listener of
Chris Williamson. Yeah.
He says that people, sorry aboutthat.

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People underestimate what they can do in a year, and they
overestimate what they can do ina day.
Right? Yeah.
It's those, like, little chunks that you find in a day.
That's ultimately what's going to add up and tackle the giants,
the beast, you know, the dragon.Slay that dragon.

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Yeah. So another mindset shift would
be that it's a quote by Alex or Mosey is that there's always
someone who's had it worse, but then it better, right?
The thing that you are trying todo is possible.
There's 8 billion people on planet Earth.
Someone must have tried it, but there must be someone who has
performed better than you in worse circumstances, right?

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If that person can do it, why can't you?
You should not have an excuse asto why you can't do it, because
there's always going to be someone who's had it worse and
done it better. Yeah, she might lower in the
mic, lower in it so you can see your face.
Awesome. Yeah, perfect.
But yeah, dude, there's just so many people out there with just
living in third world countries,right?

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And they somehow make it to America or Canada and make it
work, or they achieve greatness in their own field within that
country with the little guidanceor little resources that they do
have. It's it's amazing.
Yeah. You just got to do the thing,
right? You just got to do the thing
that you want, that that aligns with their values, with your

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mission, that makes you fulfilled.
Yeah, And Speaking of doing The thing is when when you don't
have motivation, I like to kind of picture this poem.
It basically goes like preparingto do the thing isn't doing the
thing. Scheduling time to do the thing
isn't doing the thing. Making A to do list for the
thing isn't doing the thing. Telling people you're going to

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do the thing isn't doing the thing.
Messaging friends who may or maynot be doing the thing isn't
doing the thing. Writing a banger tweet about how
you're going to do the thing isn't doing the thing.
Hating on yourself for not doingthe thing isn't doing the thing.
Hating on other people who have done the thing isn't doing the
thing. Hating on the obstacles in the
way of doing the thing isn't doing the thing.

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Fantasizing about all of the adoration you're going to
receive once you have done the thing isn't doing the thing.
Reading about how other people did the thing isn't doing the
thing. Reading about how to do the
thing isn't doing the thing. And reading this essay, or in
this case, listening to me read this essay, isn't doing the
thing. The only thing that's doing the
thing, just doing the thing. When you don't have motivation,
no worries. All you gotta do is just take

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the next logical step and do thething right?
And oftentimes during the conversation of motivation, when
people have big work that they need to get done, they spend so
much time and energy working on things that don't really move
the needle, right? All of those things I just
mentioned, right? Like reading about or how to do
it. I'm sure like when you start
your podcast, the best way for you to put out the first episode

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was to just do the thing, right?You didn't think about, oh, what
if this happens or oh, how am I going to do that, right?
You just kind of like dive deep into it, you figure it out and
then it improves along the way, right?
And when you spend more of your energy just focusing on things
that do the thing instead of allof the other stuff that I've
mentioned, your work increases like not only by the quality but
also the quantity. It leaves no room for lack of

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motivation to disrupt your work,because motivation does not
exist in this world. In this world of doing the
thing, all that exists is action.
You're right, it's just you can really lubricate everything and
make sure everything's perfect. But unless you gain action,
unless you actually do thing to move the needle.

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And I've actually read that essay many times in this
podcast, actually probably like four or five Times Now, which I
love that essay. Actually, the previous podcast,
that one with Brooke McClain, I read that it's just, it's
awesome and it resonates with meso well because we spend so much
time trying to put the, you know, trying to prepare these

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things, you know, going around and making sure we're measuring
the pencil, we're sharpening it,we're making sure we're wiping
the dust off the glasses or likethe the kind of the blurry
areas, but we don't take the time to actually write
something, right. Absolutely, yeah.
Another thing is like 90% of success can be boiled down to

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just doing the obvious thing foran extraordinary amount of time
without convincing yourself you're smarter than you actually
are. What this means is all you got
to do is just show up. For example, you know 90% of
podcasts don't make it past the third episode.
That means in order to be the top 10% of podcasters, you just
got to have 4 episodes. If you want to be the top 1% of
podcasters, you got to have 22 episodes because 99% don't make

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it past 21 episodes. That's all it takes.
Greatness is so easy to be achieved in this world because
so many people give up and they don't show up.
You just have to show up. Yeah, hey, Episode 130.
So I'm making it. Yeah.
And last point on motivation, itwould be to reduce friction.

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When you want to do something and you want to make it easier
for you to do the thing, you gotto reduce friction.
For example, coming into this podcast room, right?
All I had to do was you made it so easy for me.
I just sit down, you press record and we talk right?
Whereas with even in my situations when I first started
making content, it would be a whole like little ritual that I
had to do Like first I have to set up my camera, find the

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perfect lighting, etcetera, right?
Maybe come up with a little script of what I'm gonna say
right? But now what I did was all I got
to do is go to press record. Everything's set up for me,
right? I made it easier on myself to
get content out there, which means I can get more content out
there, which means I have more iterations to improve.
And when you're able to reduce friction, it becomes easier for

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you to do the thing, which meansyou do more of the thing.
Opposite is also true, in fact, like if you're trying to quit
something or you want to quit some habits that you're not
proud of increase friction, makeit harder to do the thing.
When you want to stop doing something, you can increase the
friction. Yeah, yeah, I know.
With bad habits, right. You just need to make sure you

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put that controller away or makesure that, you know, you're not
surrounded by friends that are continuously smoking or you're
not surrounded by friends that just drink all the time because
of course you're going to be enticed.
You're going to be tested. So why not just don't go there?
Like don't put those chips in your pantry because you're going
to get tempted and you're just going to increase the friction.

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And yeah, same way the opposite goes where, you know, if you
want to make something a lot more abundant when it comes to
the activity, you have to make sure it's easier.
So the podcast, you just sit down, the camera's there.
Actually, this is my room. I sleep here.
Yeah, dude, I'm. I'm doing what it takes.

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Absolutely, man. Because I had all these excuses
of, yeah, I don't really have a room to do it at.
Like I don't got a studio. Where am I supposed to do it?
I sleep in my my studio. Hormonal style.
Yeah. How did you come about this
realization? Sure.
So I guess a big part of even just me wanting to create

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content. So it's a big goal when you say
that, OK, you want to start sharing your advice on social
media, you want to start puttingyourself out there.
And it can be really overwhelming because number one,
you don't know what the responsefrom the public is instead of
framing it like that or even in terms of you recording or you
starting your podcast, right? Instead of it having being like
100 podcast, kind of like extravaganza, it's just one

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podcast at a time, right? And what I did was OK, what's
the first step? Go on Amazon and buy like a $25
mic. What's the second step?
I install cap cut. What's the third step?
I open my camera and I just talklike this for 5 minutes. 4th
step edit and just break it downto the small steps and don't.
And you should act before the fear stops you from acting.

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So if it takes me like 10 seconds to let's say install cap
cutter or really just get up my phone and start recording, it's
going to take me a bit longer for the fear to stop me from
doing that. You need to act.
You need to think about whateverthe next logical step is before
the fear stops you from doing it.
Just leave no room for fear to stop you from doing anything.
Don't you think about what people might think though, and

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your character and like, are youcredible?
Because that's when I am releasing these episodes
sometimes and I'm putting myselfout there, I get a sense of why,
why, why would people listen to me, right?
Why am I credible? Like, how do you stomach those
thoughts? And do you even get those
thoughts in the first place? So when it comes to posting

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content, there's definitely likea fear of what are people gonna
think or as you said, like, am Icredible?
But I only like to focus on what's in my control.
All I can do as a creator is just get out my phone and just
push content, right? I can't control someone else's
mind, like what they might thinkof my content or what comments
they might leave. And when I focus on only what's

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in my control, that's when the results happen, right?
For example, if I just post 3 episodes or three kind of reels
and all that negativity, I let it affect me.
Well, then my podcast is done, my content creation is done.
But when I only focus on just megetting out my content, then
that's when you reach the 100 numbers.
That's when you reach your numbers in the thousands, right?

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You just don't let the external influence stop you from your own
input. You can only force the input.
You can only affect the input. Don't worry on the output, when
you maximize the input, the output, the good ones at least,
will automatically be maximized.So can you share a time when you
felt like giving up but pushed through?

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And what got you through this? Sure.
So recently I just finished my 2nd semester at U of AI had this
class, it's called Accounting 211.
And you know, me being a contentcreator, I had a podcast.
I figured as a way for me to study as well, I'm going to
recap the whole accounting course.
I'm going to make like a two hour, 3 hour video, just kind of

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a mini podcast episode kind of me tutoring the whole course
basically. And at first it seemed nice
because you know, I get to learnthe whole course because if I
can teach it, I learned it really well.
I get clout, you know, I get like a good connection with the
teacher as well if I ever need like a referral or a
recommendation letter or anything.
So a lot of good upsides to me doing that.

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However, I completely underestimated the amount of
time it'll take. So 3 hour video, it takes me
probably 4 hours to record. Plus there's like 15 hours of
just planning and coming up withmy like instruction material,
all that stuff, right? So the biggest thing that I
focused on was I just wanted to provide value, right?
At the end of the day, I figuredif I could post something, then

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if it helps someone else out, then what?
more than I want, more could I want, right?
And there's a lot of upside, butbecause it was so overwhelming,
this is what got me through it. So number one, just break it
down into smaller steps. So it turned out that it wasn't
just a three hour video anymore.It was 1420 minute videos,
right? It was a video on each chapter

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instead of just a video on the whole course.
And when you break it down like that becomes less overwhelming.
And when you reduce the amount that something is overwhelming
of or overwhelming by the amountthat you can produce in terms of
quality and quantity, output increases.
If something is not overwhelmingat all, you'll do it in a
heartbeat. You'll do it in a snap, right?
But when you can take out the overwhelming nature of something
by breaking down into smaller steps, that's a good strategy to

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do it. Then you were able to tackle
your goals head on immediately fast, and you're able to produce
output fast. And another thing is when I'm
working through something, this is definitely something that was
a big project and there was definitely a lot of reward for
it. And I'm sure if someone else had
done it as well, they would see a lot of benefit and reward,
right? There was a quote by Hermozian

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ago. Something like this is where
most people stop and This is whythey don't win.
So anytime during that 1516 hourperiod where I was planning the
course material and recording, there were times where I'm like,
why am I doing this? Is the reward even worth it?
But I paused and I thought to myself, there must be someone
who wanted to do the same thing I wanted to do, right?

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But they stopped where I'm having these thoughts right now.
And because they stopped, that'swhy they didn't win.
And when you kind of phrase it that way, whenever you have
these thoughts of not wanting tocontinue on with your goals,
just realize other people have tried to do the same thing as
you. This is when they stopped.
This is why they didn't win. So if you just push through it,
then you will win. You will have the result that

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you want to have. Yeah, if it was easy, then
everybody else would be doing it.
Absolutely. If everybody could be rich,
famous, attractive, with pure health and great connections,
right, then everybody would choose that.
But no, what's the easy thing todo?
To watch Netflix, to not study, to not work out, to eat like

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shit? To, you know, be angry at
somebody who wronged you, to go for revenge and the destruction
side of humanity. It's all really easy because you
get that gratification. It's instant, right?
Gambling, you know, smoking. But it's the times where you're
tested where it's actually worthhaving.

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We have those tough talks where you go to the gym or you don't
want to wake up and you don't want to do this.
It's usually good for you, right?
Absolutely. What I've realized recently,
too, is sometimes we don't even know what's good for us, right?
Because in the back of my head sometimes I'm like, there's that
lingering thought of, I don't want to do this.
And I'm convincing myself that, oh, I can, I should just stop

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like I should, I should just give up.
But then Fast forward months later and I didn't stop.
I just overrode the system. I, I, I'm thankful for myself,
my, my future self is thanking my past self for not succumbing
to those thoughts. And actually, I've, I, I just
got into a sales job. It's door to door knocking.

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If you ever, if you ever had somebody walk up to your door
and like just whether they're another religion or they're
trying to sell you something. Dude, I didn't know it was this
hard. Like I, I just finished my first
week. I knocked like 500 doors and I
had one sale. I just, I was stumbling on my
words. I didn't really know what to do

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yet and I was going to give up yesterday.
I was going to tell everyone, myboss that like, OK, this isn't
for me. Like this is just so
embarrassing going up there. What am I doing with my life?
But you know, I woke up today and I'm like, I've had these
thoughts before and if I quit now, then I'm going to be like

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the rest of them. And it's only three months.
Like I'm off that. Then the new semester starts.
And if I'd really, if I gave it my all on that job, then I'll
come back and I'll do even better.
But if not, I'll find a different route.
But I, as long as I give it my best and that's continuously
kind of override the system of, OK, don't give up, don't give

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up, right? And as long as it's not like
physically harming you, right? And maybe in some sense it does,
but that's comes with the sacrifices and the reflection.
Now for you, like, how do you know if this is actually like
worth having? Cuz you could be climbing up a
mountain and it could be the wrong one.

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I mean, what, what compels you? And I know you said you want to
provide value for others cuz with your accounting class now
how do you know which one to choose?
Because there's so many opportunities out there man.
How do you know? So short answer, you don't you
just you just have to stick it out long enough to have somewhat

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of a good answer. There was this kind of graph by
James Clear. He wrote the book Atomic Habits
where basically on the Y axis you have results, on the X axis
you have time. And then the graph basically is
kind of like for the people who are listening and not watching,
I'm basically making like a upside down U shape.
And what it's showing is that you know, when you just start

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out, when your time is very minimal into the thing, then you
might get a few results here andthere, but the more you stick
out, sometimes the results mightnot come through.
And that is the testing point. That's when you just don't know
if the thing that you're workingon, it's going to be a reward
that's worth having. But on the flip side of the
testing point, the results go back again.
That's when all the people who stuck through the hard time are

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there and they're the people whoare having the most results that
they could ever possibly want. So you don't know if it's
something that's worth doing. You only know by sticking out in
the long term. Now, of course, there's some
ways you can like learn from others.
I think that's a big one where if you if there's someone who's
already done the thing that you want to do, but they're not
happy with the results that theygot and you're confident that

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you can't do it in any other way, then I know then I can
probably figure out that that's not something that's worth
doing. But when it's something
completely fresh, completely newthat you have no idea about,
people quit before they've givenit enough of a shot.
People just quit. They don't give it enough of a
shot and they. Turns out it's a reward that's
worth having, but they gave up too soon for them to materialize

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that reward. How do you balance setting
ambitious goals with being patient in the process?
So no goal is ambitious if you just give yourself a long run
away. For example, I can say that I
want a $10 million business by the in one year, right?
That's a pretty ambitious goal. Because people will call me

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crazy. People will say I'm out of my
mind for one year. But if I say I want a $10
million business in the next 10 years, suddenly it's not so
crazy anymore, right? It's not so ambitious.
I mean, the ambition of the goalis relatively the same because
it's 10 million. But just because you gave
yourself a longer runway, now you don't have to come up with
like $80,000 every single month.Now you only gonna come up with

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$1 million every single year forthe 10 years, right, in order to
get yourself like the $10 million goal.
So when you give yourself the longer runway, you're able to
again break down your goal into the smaller steps which allow
you to fuel action, which fuels motivation, which then brings up
your ability to tackle on that ambitious goal.

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Also, people got this wrong. They think that when you're
working on an ambition ambitiousgoal, you need to tackle it with
a good work life balance. Work life balance does not exist
at least in the way where peoplethink it does.
For example, let's say if you want to like get a top corporate
job as AVP position in a corporation, right?
People think of work life balance is you working like a

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good 8 hours a day. You spending an hour exercising
every single day. You're spending two hours with
your family every single day. You're spending 50 minutes
cooking healthy food for yourself every single day.
You're getting 8 hours of sleep every single day.
Work life balance is not balanced every single day of
your life. Instead, there are going to be
periods of time when you just don't have balance.

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It's going to be perfectly imbalanced in a way.
For example, right now I don't have a fam, I don't have like a
family of my own, like no wife, no kids, I don't have a
mortgage. The majority of my time I can
commit is just either going to be to school or working right.
So some of those categories simply just because it don't
exist, I'm not going to have balance in them.
And my biggest priority, it's going to be imbalanced in favor

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of studying, in favor of workingright.
And right now I have probably the biggest advantage that other
people older than me don't have.It's my time.
So when I can use my time and you know, as long as you're not
getting like 2 hours of sleep every single night.
But you definitely need to like sometimes choose what you need
to sacrifice, right? Or for example, when you're,

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when I graduate college and I made like a corporate job,
right? There's just going to be times
where I'm going to have to prioritize work where I'm not
going to have the most perfectlybalanced life, right?
Or when I start my family, there's going to be times when
I'm going to have to sacrifice my job.
There's going to be times when I'm going to have to favor the
time that I need to spend with my family, right?
In all those categories, my timeis not 100% balanced throughout

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the whole like 10 year period that I've laid out.
It's going to be imbalanced, butoverall when you stretch it out
over the grand scheme of your 80year life, it will seem like a
balanced life. And you can think of it as like
a normal college semester as well, right?
The first week of school is justsyllabus week.
Nothing happens. So your balance that goes
towards school it's very low or your time that goes towards

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school, it's low. You don't need to balance it as
much. When midterm season happens or
final season happens, your otherpriorities will take a hit
because your school priority just got a bit higher, right?
I wouldn't call that balance in the long term because over in
the long term it does seem balanced, but in the short term
you're just going to have to realize that pure 100% work life
balance is fictional. It will not exist and you're

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just going to have to suck it upin the times when you do need to
face imbalance. Another thing I'll bring up is
anything in life that's worth doing is either difficult,
boring or both. When it comes to that ambitious
goal. There has been someone who
wanted to achieve that same goal, right?
I think it's very possible in the 8 billion people that have
been alive or that currently arealive today.

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It's an ambitious goal and there's people who's tried to
done it before, but they've given up because anything that's
worth doing, it's either difficult, boring or both,
right. When the previous question was
brought up of how do you know ifit's a goal that you that's kind
of worth doing or if it's going to be a reward?
Well, if it's really worth doing, it's going to be
difficult, boring, or both. And you're going to have to

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accept that. You're going to have to power
through that. There is no shortcut except
action. Yeah, with every single
successful person, there was usually a story, right?
Otherwise they wouldn't be wherethey are, right?
They wouldn't be able to if theydidn't weren't given the wealth.
They're not able to maintain that wealth because even if you

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are born into power, nepotism, right, to maintain that wealth
still requires tremendous amountof work.
And that's, as you said, difficulty and boredom comes
with that, right? When you're balancing the
spreadsheets, when you're kind of acclimating your body, when
you're doing those breath exercises, trying to stay calm,
when you're in the group meetings, right?

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It's not like these adventure days where there's drama there
and, and this everything explodes and then you, you
somehow solve it. No, it's like monotonous, right?
And you had mentioned that yes, right now is the perfect time
and you're you got no wife, no kids.
I same with me, man. I'm on the same boat, right?

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That's why I can just go Pam on a Sunday.
I just go podcast once a week and make shorts everyday.
I work as much as I can improve the body, because right now is
the best time. And a lot of people ask advice
for from successful people and they, they go, Hey, Bob, you

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know, you, you're the CEO of X company or you're this manager
who's super charismatic and you know how to speak, you know how
to really do everything well. And they'll, they'll give them
advice of like, yeah, work life balance.
Where are you going to have timefor the family?
You go to the but that's that point in their lives.
They they, I'm sure I'm a I'm for most people that got up to

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the top echelon of society, there was no balance when they
started out like those all thosestartups, like Steve Jobs talks
about it, LeBron talks about it when it comes to sports, Tiger
Woods, right? You, you talk to every single
person that is ultra renowned. Usually they, there was some
sort of imbalance in their life for a little bit.

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Eventually they realize, hey, I can't keep this up, right?
But even then, to be truly great, if that's something you
want to succeed, you just have to devote time, energy,
attention. You have to be obsessed, right?
That's it. David Dawkins, let's say.
But man, what are you? What are you trying to
accomplish when it comes to yourcontent?
Like, are you, you said this is a goal of yours.

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You want to be a like acquire $10 million in 10 years.
Is that a goal? It can be a goal mostly for my
accounting work, but in terms ofcontent, well, the reason I
started is this is a shallow reason to start by the way, and
it'll come up later, but I wanted fame, I wanted clout,
right? I wanted people to know me

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potentially money, sponsorships,etcetera, right?
Love it. When I started because of that,
I was putting out reels that weren't the highest quality
because I didn't have my watchers, my viewers best
interest in mind, right? I was purely chasing the money,
purely chasing the fame, clout, etcetera.
But then I realized, you know what?
This isn't working. And at that point, I just fall
in love with the game of creating content so much where I

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shifted my goal entirely to justproviding value, right?
I even have business cards whereit's kind of like promotional
for my Instagram where it just says providing value, right?
And when I focus on providing value exclusively, my numbers
shot up in every measurable metric.
I was happier making content. I was more fulfilled and
eventually this will come up as well as to why you should have a

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social media presence. But a short answer is you will
never regret it. You will Every single person who
makes content, their story will be unique, but in every single
one of them, the common feature is that their personal business,
professional life in some way ofcategory has always benefited.
Right? And I'm starting to see so many

(28:23):
of those benefits, for example, just me being on this podcast,
right? Like first, like this is my
first ever like invite to the guest episode.
Really loving it. So I I respect the hustle, man.
I've seen you put out those reels.
I've seen you support our boy campus.
Yeah, right. If if you hadn't made the effort
to put yourself out there, you and I wouldn't have linked up.
You know, you and I wouldn't have been connected in this way.

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Yeah. It's like if, if I didn't start
the podcast, then, you know, it wouldn't work out too.
Like you will come across the people that you are have the
like that have like minded thoughts, you know, goals and
just the same kind of outlook which if you want to succeed, if

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you social medias for you of content creation, being
creative, putting your authenticself out there.
People recognize it and they people eat that shit up, man.
Like and you just start to meet wonderful, amazing people with
amazing thoughts. So when it comes to choosing a
good college major, what are some common mistakes students

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make when choosing their major and how can they avoid them?
So I really listen to someone called Scott Galloway and his
advice is that following your passion is bad advice.
Often times when people pick their college major, it's based
off of their passion. For example, you have someone
like there's this is actually a course that is offered by some

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universities, mostly in the States, but you can actually
take like a major in pottery. That can be your passion, sure,
but when you major in something that is your passion, chances of
you kind of succeeding in that are very low.
Pottery. What?
What do you even do? Like.
It's it's ridiculous, right? Like you would basically just
make like vases and like glassesand like pots, whatever.

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But you know, that is a great hobby to release stress.
I cannot see it being marketablein the job market.
But following your passion is bad advice.
The person who told you to follow your passion is already
rich. For example, just in the case of
pottery, right? You can walk up to a local
pottery owner, right? Or there must be someone who has
a $10 million pottery business, right?

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They can tell you, hey, follow your passion.
You should major in pottery likeI did, right?
But that person is already rich.They're giving you advice based
off of their current version of themselves, not the version of
themselves 50 years ago, right? Instead of Alex, Alex or Mosey
and Chris Williamson, they had like this combined podcast
episode where they said don't ask the person who's 50 steps

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ahead of your for advice becausethey've become disillusioned of
the reality of what it's like tobe at level 1.
Instead, ask person at level 2 or Level 3 about advice on how
to climb up, because they're more likely to give you a better
answer, right? And instead of following your
passion, you should follow your talent, something that you're
naturally good at, and then put in the 10s of thousands of hours

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of work required to become greatat it.
So for example, in my case, in high school and junior high, I
was naturally good at math, right?
It came pretty easy to me. I didn't have to spend too much
effort at it. That was my talent.
I can't really do much with thattalent, but I can apply it to
something like accounting. And right now I'm at level 1 of
accounting, but if I put in the 10s of thousands of hours of

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work required to become great atit, then I will for sure be in
the top X percent, like top five, 4% of my industry.
Accounting isn't necessarily my passion.
I don't wake up every single dayexcited to crunch numbers.
I don't wake up excited to sit on the desk from 9:00 to 5:00.
Really. You know, Yeah.
Oh, no. Tough news, right?
Hard to hear that. But you know, because I realized

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that it's my talent and I can put in the 10s of thousands of
hours of work required to becomegreat at it, then I know that's
something that's going to be worthwhile for me.
It's it's not my passion, but it's my talent that I can work
towards. And another thing is boring is
sexy. So the less flashy an industry

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is, the more money there is in it.
For example, like taking something like an industry of
pottery or like the visual arts or music or all these like flash
industries, right? It, it's nice to be able to
indulge in them, right? They're very like creative and
artistic, etcetera. But the top, in order to make

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money in these industries, you need to be in the top 1 to 2%.
That is ridiculously hard. It's easy to, it's objectively
easier to be in the top 10% of something than the top 1%,
right? It the curve is an exponential
curve. And for the people watching, I'm
for the people listening, I'm basically making a half U shape
with my hand. Because the more you climb up in
terms of percentage, think of how many thousands, 10,100

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thousands people you lose every percentage you climb up.
And if you pick a boring industry, for example, like
counting or a tax lawyer or likea software engineer, right?
These are objectively boring industries compared to something
flashy like music or art something, right?
The top 10% of these industries make ridiculous amounts of

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money, right? They, they, they can fly.
Private accounting has a very high employment rate.
The top, I think it only has like a one or two percent
unemployment rate. So if you're even in the bottom
98% of accountants, you will still live, you'll still
survive. But if you're the top 10% of
them, you'll like be able to flyprivate.
And being top 10% of something is easier to be in the top 1% of

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something, right? Of course, the higher up you
climb, even in accounting, software engineering, etcetera,
the more money there is. But in order to chase like the
financial security and stabilitythat everyone should have, I
think you should major in something that is boring as
opposed to the sexy industry. There's actually a study done in
the states, 87% of actors didn'tqualify for health insurance

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because they made less than $23,000.
Oh, that's tough. It's tough, right?
That sounds so disheartening bro.
You can you can go to dreams, yeah, you can go to college.
You can spend your four years bachelor's in performing arts
and the chances of you being in the in the top like 5% of the

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people who would actually qualify for in the top 13% who
qualify for health insurance. But you know, top 13% doesn't
necessarily mean 100,000 hundreds of thousands of
dollars. It just means more than $23,000.
So you infinitely increase your chances of becoming less
financially secure when you major in something that is kind

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of a flashy industry, right? When you go for something flashy
like modeling, sports, art, singing, all these things, I
don't want to dishearten anyone.I don't want to like crush your
dreams, but you better be getting some really bright green
signals early on in your life that you are going to be in the
top 1% of this industry. If you're not, then I would
strongly, strongly consider you major in something that is less

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flashy, something more secure, more stable, something that is
aligned with your talent that then you can put in the
thousands of hours of work required to become great at it.
Yeah, well, there's so many, so many people that want to be an
actor, singer, painter, right exinsert artist or athlete.

(35:43):
But the reality of it, man, is it's just the Pareto
distribution, hey, like 80% of people want, but it's only 20%
to get it. But it's even worse because the
actress statistics are even lower.
Yeah, And, you know, all of these passions that exist,
they're wonderful. If you imagine a world where
art, music, singing, dancing, all the stuff didn't exist, I

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wouldn't want to live in the world.
It'd be pretty boring, right? Like, imagine if 10 years ago
Drake decided to become an accountant, right?
Billions of people would be pretty pissed off that all his
music didn't exist. So what should you actually do
with your passion? So again, if everyone follows
the advice of sticking away fromtheir passions and majoring in
something that is like a less flashy industry and don't worry

(36:29):
on your passion, it's going to be a dull place.
These are your passions. Work on them when you're not
working on your 9 to 5. For example, accounting isn't
necessarily my passion. I like solving Rubik's Cubes.
That's what kind of a passion ofmine.
I can't make a career out of solving Rubik's Cubes, but I
can, hey, I can like, you know, maybe sometimes film content
about it. Or maybe I'll just like, have
fun here and there outside of my9:00 to 5:00.

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What's your fastest time? 23 seconds.
The the the three by three. Yeah, wow.
I, I got up to a minute. Wow, 23 seconds.
Yeah. And look, there's people who are
in The Who solve it in like 3-4 seconds, right?
They're the top 1%. Again, I have not gotten those

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bright early green lights in my life, which means I won't be
able to make as good of a careerout of those top one percenters,
right? As opposed to something like
accounting. So like your passions, these are
the things that keep you sane and happy, right?
They provide entertainment not only to yourself and to the
world, and they definitely should exist.
Make them your side hustles, right?
Work them, work on them outside of your nine to five.

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And when you see if he, even if it's something that you want to
do as your career, wait until you see a little bit of revenue,
right? Like let's say, for example,
solving Rubik's cubes. You saw you start like a YouTube
channel about Rubik's cubes, just working on it maybe a
couple hours a week outside of your 9:00 to 5:00.
Turns out five months later, let's say you start seeing like
$4000 a month from it, right? Just from brand deals, spark

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sponsorships, YouTube ad revenue, etc.
Well at that point your side hustle becomes or increases your
main hustles like income. That way you can kind of
consider sometimes even leaving your nine to five and making
your side hustle your full time job.
That's when I would recommend making your passion your full
time income when you have actualtangible proof that this is

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something that you can sustain and it is providing you more
value than your 9 to 5. Otherwise, you should definitely
consider pursuing them as a passion on the side outside of
your 9:00 to 5:00 as in terms ofpicking a good college major,
accounting is just something that I picked.
I want to give you the tool set to kind of pick your own good

(38:40):
college major. I'll, I'll take the example of,
for example, accounting versus puppetry, right?
There's this Japanese book. It's called a key guy and it's
basically it tells you what yourlife's purpose should be.
And it's an intersection of your, of what you love, what the
world needs, what you can be paid for, and what you were good

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at. For example, in accounting,
right? Accounting isn't necessarily
something that I'm wake up excited to do, but hey, I don't
hate it, right? So I guess it matched, it works
out in what I love, what the world needs.
I posted tons about this on LinkedIn, but accounting is
definitely something that is very steadily in demand and will
continue to be. It's definitely something the
world needs. I can be paid a lot for

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accounting because of the demandand what I'm good at.
I'm at level 1 of accounting right now.
If I want to get to level 100, Ijust got to put in 10s of
thousands of hours of work so I can get good at this versus
puppetry. Let's say someone completely
loves puppetry, right? That category is maxed out.
That's awesome. But in terms of what the world
needs now, the world definitely needs like puppetry and

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etcetera, right? But the sheer like just quantity
of people who need puppets or like puppet shows is
significantly lower compared to like accountants, right?
What you can be paid for, it's objectively lower compared to an
accounting degree, for example. And what you were good at, let's
say you're the best like puppetry student in your class.

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But still, just because the other categories aren't there or
they're missing, then accountingwould be a better fit for my
case, right? Compare this to like I guess
your own. Interest like software
engineering versus like dentistry, right?
Like one of those are very good industries, right?
Let's say 3 categories are matched up, but you just happen
to love dentistry more than that's what you would pick

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instead of your software engineering job.
And there's five questions that every student should ask when it
comes to picking good college major.
Unfortunately, secondary education or post secondary
education has been made a joke just because of like some of the
majors that are offered. And people end up picking these
majors because they don't do simple 10 minutes of research by

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answering these five questions. Number one, what jobs can you
get with this degree #2 How muchdo these jobs pay #3 How hard is
it for you to get these jobs? Like, how hard is it for you
specifically based off your talents and abilities #4 is it
something that you can do without being totally miserable?
Right. That's definitely something that

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plays into effect. Let's say someone completely,
completely hates accounting. They hate the idea of it.
Well then that might not be as good of a pick for them, right?
Again, I don't wake up excited to crush numbers every day, but
I don't totally hate it, so I can do it without being totally
miserable #5. Lastly, how long is it gonna
take you to pay off debt? And in the chance that you take
on any student loans for example, something like puppetry

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will be very low of a chance to pay off debt compared to like
soft drinks. Just some puppetry guy watching
this right now. He's getting his three years
crush. Yeah.
And what sucks is these five questions.
It's 10 minutes of research. Literally you can ask these
questions word for word on ChatGPT.
It'll give you a very good objective answer.
People don't do this research. They major in something that

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doesn't match like those icky guy categories and it doesn't
like match these five questions.And then they basically end up
screwing their whole life over and they waste four years of
their life. They waste hundreds of thousands
of dollars. Sometimes in the case of college
degrees, like for example, there's actually been someone
who can like who grew up in Alberta, right, versus going to

(42:20):
like Waterloo for the degree. They went on to like I guess AUS
school. And of course you pay way more
tuition. They ended up paying like I
think $300,000 as opposed to a $50,000 degree from Waterloo,
right? Even if it's something like
software engineering. Well, the fifth question, how
long does it take you to pay offdebt?
It won't really be as high with that compared to Waterloo.

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So there's definitely a lot of questions and things to consider
when it comes to your college major.
These five questions are a greatplace to start.
Do 10 minutes of research, do your due diligence, and that way
you can have the chance of not screwing up the rest of your
life. Yeah, true.
Man, there's there's so many things like so many degrees at

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EU of A that are just trash. Man.
What are you supposed to do withthe Fine Arts degree?
You know what I mean? Like it's unless you're in the
1%, then you're not going to getanywhere like even like acting,
you know, like it's just not going to be net positive for
you. You might as well drop out and
move to Toronto or whichever hotspot it is for the arts kind

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of field. And just the degree won't help
you because they're not going tolook at your degree on your
transcript when they're trying to hire for a big budget movie
or like, but it's just it's it'stough dude, but it's just like
we're told that right? We're follow your passions,
follow your dreams. And it misleads a lot of people.

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I agree. Yeah, it's like always what's
what when and that's what we've been instilled in since we were
in kindergarten elementary. And it's just, yeah, it's like
you really have to find out whatmakes you feel fulfilled is what
I I've kind of really allotted to cause yeah, you don't have to

(44:11):
like what you do, but like outside of work, maybe you can
just focus more time in there. Like you could just do a 40 hour
work week, you know, just make sure you make the bare minimum
as to you where, how you can live, get the basic necessities
and still kind of be there for your friends and family and
you'll be fine. And then as you said, yeah,
maybe you could go in the littleventure on to exploring your

(44:35):
hobby. And if it does grow corn and if
it does grow something tangible,then yeah, of course, maybe try
it out a little bit. But you still have something to
fall back on, right? There's you got to have a little
safety net. Yeah, You got to have the backup
option. Yeah.
And especially like when it comes to like your parents, like
I've seen a lot of these reels like, oh, like your job is to

(44:58):
try your parents or something, right?
And I think right now a lot of parents have enough of a
retirement situation to not worry about that.
All your parents want is for youto be able to like stand up on
your own 2 feet and have a good option, right?
You almost owe it to them to have a good backup option in
case your side hustle fails, right?
You should have a degree that ismarketable in the job market for

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something you can get paid for, something that you can not be
totally miserable doing, etcetera.
And you need to kind of you owe it to your parents to have that
backup option always. True, Yeah.
What even is accounting, man? Like, I I've heard my, my mom's
an accountant, right, but what do you guys actually do?
Like, is it? I know there's an account and

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there's counting. What are you counting?
Like money. Yeah, like.
So like accounting at the end ofthe day, all of your accounting
classes, they'll always label itas like the language of
business, right? So what I like about accounting
is that it's very kind of predictive and all you're doing

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is you're just basically making sure all your clients accounts,
they line up, right? You want to make sure what their
assets are worth, what their liabilities are worth, what
their expenses are worth, right?You want to kind of see where
their money is going, where the income of money is, where the
outcome of money is. Basically, you're laying down a
financial blueprint of that company's.
Position like PNL right profit losses or gains or like budget

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for certain? Things like there's three main
financial statements, the balance sheet, profit and loss,
as you said, and then there's like the cash flow statement.
What these do is they basically help objectively measure a
business's position, strength, etcetera.
I actually think the accounting degree needs a severe rebrand
where a lot of people deter frommajoring in accounting just

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because it sounds so boring, right?
Where people, you're at a desk from 9:00 to five crunched up
like this typing on your computer, right?
But what I like to think of accounting is, or the way I'll
phrase myself as an accountant is I'm just a problem solver.
It just so happens to be that myweapon of joints happens to be
financial statements, numbers, all that stuff, right?

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And when you phrase it like that, the amount of work that
you can do as an accountant increases infinitely.
When you tackle all these businesses, right?
Or you have all these problems that you're trying to solve, all
you're doing is you're just applying your specific tool set,
right? For example, someone working in
software engineering, right? They're problem solver.
It just so happens to be that their weapon of choice is code.

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I'm a problem solver, just so happens to be that my weapon of
choice is financial statements. And I think when you phrase your
kind of life around that, honestly, because every single
job on planet Earth, at the end of the day, if you focus it
down, it's basically you solvinga problem.
Even like puppetry, right? You're solving a problem.
Puppetry. And what's it to you in

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puppetry? It's just a ridiculous major,
but either way, like there's a problem solving a problem of
like people need to entertainment in their lives.
This is one of your tool sets onhow you can solve that.
There's other tool sets. There's like stand up comedy,
there's like writing, there's podcasting, right?
All these are sources to solve the problem of providing
entertainment. This is just your weapon of

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choice on how to do that, right?And that's where I think the
accounting industry will head eventually.
I want it to be more of a consulting role where basically
businesses come to me with theirproblems.
I help them solve it. Sometimes I'll use my AI tools
kit, sometimes I'll use my accounting tool kit, sometimes
I'll use my podcast content creation tool kit.
All I'm doing right now with my accounting degree is maximizing

(48:44):
the amount of tools I have within a specific tool kit.
Yeah, true. You don't think ChatGPT is going
to replace you guys? No, no actually when when it
comes to people asking will AI affect the accounting industry,
I think it's a OK when it comes to people asking like will AI
replace the industry setter? Right?

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I think it's a flawed question. It will affect the accounting
industry positively. I actually really hope that AI
automate so many accountants jobs away.
Yeah, I'm gonna clip this get you cancelled.
AI is coming for you Lux. Yeah, like so many accountants

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right now, they're basically wasting their job away working
on things that can be automated.They're just doing basic data
entry right, or even personal taxes.
So much of it can be automated not only through AI, but there's
free tools that help you do themright?
Instead, when you basically kindof reduce that a manual and
automated workload from accountants, that just frees up

(49:47):
so many accountants to provide actual strategic business device
that really helps the business grows.
Right now, accountants or 20 years ago, counters were all
about data entry, figuring out the balance sheets, right?
Doing some bookkeeping. 20 yearsfrom now, accounting will be
mostly a consulting role where you act as almost a second CEO
for your client. Your goal is to help your client

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and your business client maximize like their revenue,
etcetera, right? You're basically solving their
problem of making their businessgrow.
The tools that you use is the strategic advice.
Advice will has nothing to do with the bookkeeping and the
balance sheets, right? Hopefully we're at a position
where AI and code can just completely get rid of your need
to do the balance sheets manually, and that way that can

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free up accountants to focus themajority of their time to
actually provide the strategic advice that helps the business
grow. That way they can spend the most
of the time doing the things that actually provide value,
rather than building up to providing value I.
Can tell you're a deep thinker, bro.
I think you you really thought out about every single question
I ask. I really appreciate it, man.
I I respect it. I man, I love we got to talk

(50:55):
more dude. You got to come back on the
show. Absolutely.
Yeah, I also, I forgot to mention Dave Ramsey.
I'm sure you'd see Dave Ramsey. I mentioned that like all these
people calling in like, yeah, $1,000,000 in debt and
chiropractic school, like what? How are you $1,000,000 in debt?
And it's just all these people ranking, racking up all these

(51:17):
car debt and house debt and haveto declare bankruptcy like 3
times. It's nuts.
And yeah, when it comes to AI replacing all these jobs, like
you need to have a job that's AIproof, that's just you, proof
that's aligns with who you are. It doesn't make you just
susceptible to just job loss. And because, man, it's just when

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you don't have money out there and you got kids you got to pay
for, right? You got a family.
And it's just when you're like, I pray to God once my parents
are gone, you know, that I, I can stand on my own 2 feet
because right now, if they were gone, oh gosh, you already know,
I'm, I'm begging people to go onthe GoFundMe, GoFundMe.

(52:04):
But yeah, dude, it's, I guess you, you said you don't really
like, it's not like accounting is making you jump up on your
bed and do a wind dance, a triumphant dance everyday where
you're so excited to go to work,right?
It's just like, yeah, it's not that bad.
You could show up, you could putin the time.
And I want to talk about personal finance too, and

(52:25):
financial literacy. So what are the most important
money habits young people shouldstart developing in college?
So in terms of nailing down yourbasic financial literacy, you
should have a budget. Doesn't matter how you do it.
You can use like apps, you can use a Google sheet, doesn't
matter what your budget is. Some some good examples are like

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75% of your income should be used for like spending, 10% for
savings, 15% for investing, right?
Some people have the 5020 thirtyrule where 50% of your money
should go towards your needs like rent, food, etcetera. 30%
should go towards wants and then20% for saving.
It doesn't matter what numbers you follow, doesn't matter how
you do it, as long as you are saving some portion of your

(53:10):
money. And the good tool to do that is
to have a budget. It's you basically have a a
blueprint and a timeline of how you're going to spend your money
to make sure that most importantly, you don't run out
and all your important categories are maxed out.
Like for example, like you have enough money for rent and you
don't blow it all on video games, right?
But also you should have hopefully enough money to save

(53:32):
some right? Next thing you should do is you
should have a 6 to 12 month emergency fund saved up of your
expenses. For example, right now I'm in
college right? Just finished my first year.
I don't really worry about rent.I just live with my parents
right? Same thing with food and most
I'll spend like 150 a month ish eating out right?
My expenses aren't that high, little bit of car, gas and

(53:54):
insurance. So right now my average month
expenses and too high, I should have 6 to 12 months saved up.
And when you like grow up, when you have like mortgage, wife,
kids, like etcetera, all that stuff, you should have 6 to 12
months at all times ideally. And the moment you receive your
income with your budgeting tool,you should have ideally 10% of

(54:15):
your money saved right away, right saved slash invested.
I'm going to use that as a analogous term here and there
and live well below your means. Often times people fall victim
to lifestyle increase in lifestyle inflation where let's
say you're making $50,000 a yearand you have a $30,000 car,
right? Let's let's say next year

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somehow your income increases to$100,000 a year.
You're double your income. Often times people will buy a
more expensive car, they'll buy a more expensive kind of like a
tire, they'll buy more expensivelike even if they'll buy a smart
fridge, whatever, right? Where basically they'll they'll
double their expenses as per their income.
And at the end of the day, they're the same amount of rich

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or they're the same amount of poor.
Nothing really happened. So don't fall victim to
lifestyle inflation. If your income increases, what
should increase is your savings,right?
There's actually a really, really cool math that you can do
on your own. You can go, if you're listening,
you can go on an investment calculator.
Just search up on Google investment calculator.

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If you start at the age of 18 and let's say you want to retire
at around 65 years age, right? That's 47 years if you save $100
every single month. So that's basically just $1200 a
year, right? It's only 100 bucks a month.
And if you invested into something like the S&P, which
historically has returned about 10% per year, you will have
literally $1 million by the timeyou retire.

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All it takes is 100 bucks a month and you can become a
millionaire. It's never been this easy to
become a millionaire in our generation.
But unfortunately, not enough people know about the importance
of saving, not enough people know about the importance of
investing itself, and they end up screwing themselves
financially and they have no kind of money to fall back on

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after their retirement. So they have to continue working
after they retire. And when you do that due
diligence of just 100 bucks a month, I promise you, once you
actually look at your own bank statements, it's not the hard
like just this month, like it's only been 10 days of May and
I've already spent like 80 buckson eating out.
For sure, Eat out for sure. Like balance your life.
But going back to the topic of balance, there's going to be

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some periods of imbalance, but ideally just 100 bucks a month
equals $1 million by the time you retire.
I'll take it. Not a bad deal, right?
When you do the math, it's actually about $54,000 of your
own money that you put away. That will eventually yield $1
million just through the magic of investing and compounding.
So. Yeah, dude, I, I got it really

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heavy into investing when I was I think around 1920 and I just
still learned about the power ofcompound interest, man.
It's like. Yeah, yeah.
Just it's something a lot of people don't know about.
And you can make so much money, but if you don't have the
knowledge of investing, right, it's just it won't, the money

(57:04):
won't work for you. You'll continuously have to work
for money and it won't build into this giant snowball effect.
Like I'm a big fan of Warren Buffett and he's got so much
advice for like just the averageJoe, you know, be fearful when
the when others are greedy, be greedy when others are fearful,
you know, or just like a fantastic something about a

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fantastic business. Do you know how that how that
goes? Again, a good business at a oh,
a good business at a cheap valueis less than a never mind.
But pick companies that are bluechip, yeah, and then you'll be

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fine. Our like index funds are like
mutual funds. Absolutely.
Like I personally, there's an app, it's called Blossom where
you can literally track all of my investing portfolio, right?
You're a big Brandon Beavis guy.The hurdle?
He's he's like one of the investors and blossom and he's a
big YouTube investor. I've.
Heard some of the investors names but basically like all I

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do is the majority of my investments is going to index
funds right? I number one don't have the time
nor the will to just put in all that headache of picking out
individual stocks. Just focus on the index fund.
People much smarter than me havealready figured out the correct
ratios in S&P 500 to maximize your investment right?
So just rely on them. I personally fuel a lot of my
money into the S&P 500. I have a little bit of budget,

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like 5% of my portfolios for like random, like screw around
here and there where I just invest in like blue chip
companies. Like I have a little bit of
Google, Meta, Amazon, Apple, right?
Bitcoin. Bitcoin.
I have $5 in Bitcoin. Dude, I lost like 2 grand in
Bitcoin, man. But when, what was it like Sam
Friedman and the Silicon Valley Bank?

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Yeah, when that all came back. Yeah, with the Winklevoss twins
owned it. They had this wallet called
Block Fi and they had like a six7% percent interest by just
having your Bitcoin in there. And yeah, it was crazy.
But I guess when it's usually when it's too good to be true,

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it's probably a scam or it's something that's completely
inflated. Yeah.
Another good thing is like the amount of pain that you'll get
from going all in on one investment and a tanking far
exceeds the benefit of you goingall in on investment.
And it goes up, right. Like picture your baseline level

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of happiness. Let's say whatever it is, right?
Let's say like you're at 80%, right?
And let's say you go all into NVIDIA before it went viral and
then your NVIDIA money went up, right?
And you, your happiness shot up to like 100%, right?
Eventually the way happiness works is it eventually will go
down to your basic level, right?Let's say 80%.
So basically you saw a 20% increase in happiness.

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Now let's say you went all in onNVIDIA and then it just tanked,
right? And let's say that shot down
your happiness 30 points. The pain that you'll feel from
losing everything exceeds the pain that you'll gain from
exceeds the benefit that you'll gain from.
I've heard a little bit because negativity is much more
powerful. Yeah.
How can someone start building financial literacy without

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getting overwhelmed? The biggest way I like to frame
it is the 99% of financial literacy you need to learn can
be boiled down to one hour of research.
Watch a couple YouTube videos. I actually like to go and
ChatGPT for everything now whereI just like pick a topic, I ask
you to explain it like I'm a 5 year old and then I just kind of
go down a rabbit hole. But it's just like, it's just an

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hour that you need to spend on arandom Tuesday for the rest of
your life. I think that's a pretty good
return on investment, right? Just one hour.
And I'll be coming out with my own podcast episode about
financial literacy as well. So little shameless plug there,
but this applies to learning anything, you know?
Just so much of your learning can be boiled down to an hour on

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a random Tuesday. Especially now information is so
readily available just to the ChatGPT.
The average individual's rate oflearning has increased so much.
So you should use that to your advantage and you should
leverage that. And with financial literacy,
there's tons of YouTube channels, there's tons of
documentaries or some tons of articles you could read.
Doesn't matter which one, just start.

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Yeah. Do do you believe in budgeting
apps, spreadsheets or old schooltracking what works for you?
Something is better than nothing.
Like pick one and just kind of try it out for a little bit.
I personally, I actually use a spreadsheet sometimes like just
have like a little bit of my income, see what's coming in,
see what my expenses are and tryto see how much I can save.

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There's apps you could use like there's an app called Mint.
There's an app called YN A/B stands for you need a budget.
I haven't personally tried usingany of those, but I think you
can never beat simple. Just go with a simple
spreadsheet. Honestly.
Sometimes your bank accounts will tell you all that you need
to know, like just the bank app.So there's also tons of

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budgeting templates that you canfind online, like to search up
like personal finance on a Reddit thread and you'll find
tons of like templates. Pick one and just stick to it.
But the important thing is you just try budgeting.
You try to see what percentage of your income you can save, and
you try to stick to it, most importantly, as consistently and
for as long as possible. Yeah, I just, yeah, Google

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Sheets for me, I just do free income expenses at the end of
every month, calculate the income, calculate the expenses,
subtract the expenses from the income, and then boom.
Then at the end of the year, I calculate how much I made income
totals and expenses. And then yeah, boom.

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And it's just because what I used to do is I used to
calculate every single time I went out or I purchased
something and I just did. It was hard to keep up.
But now it's just like you can copy and paste your, all your
transactions within each credit card and you just get chat, get
ChatGPT to calculate it. And then I'll just do all the

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expenses for you, calculate all the income.
It's really easy. It's it's a little a day goes a
long way. Yeah, I'll do that.
Yeah, man, just yeah. You're what got you into this
route, though, because I feel like, you know, it.
Was it just like an algorithm doing its work?
Stumbled upon a YouTube video? Did you get advice from a friend

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or? So when I decided that I was
going to pick accounting as my career, it was almost like a
like a expectation that I know alittle bit about personal
finance and that I kind of have that.
I'm kind of like the finance broof the group chat almost.
Yeah. Where, you know, like I post
sometimes on my reels about personal finance, Right.
And I was involved in the business club in high school.

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I eventually became the president of it and.
Congratulations. Or I guess not like for that
time. Yeah, appreciate it.
And then so, you know, like it was easy to do a financial
literacy workshop here and there.
So I did a couple of those and I'm like, you know what, all
this information, it only takes about an hour worth of
presentation for the rest of your life.
And going back to my kind of purpose of providing value, I

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think financial value is one of the biggest values you can
provide, especially that education route of things.
And eventually I decided to hosta workshop here and there.
So I was invited back to my old high school about a month ago.
I did a workshop on financial literacy.
And the way I see it going is I want to basically target as many
high schools as possible to go around these high schools and

(01:04:46):
give them the financial education that unfortunately the
school boards don't give, but isvery, very useful and very
important for your life. Even in college.
I don't think there's a single like financial literacy course
that you can take in high school.
The most you'll get is the COM 20 course, but that doesn't do a
great job of personal finance. And when I, what really opened

(01:05:08):
my eyes is that all you need is 100 bucks a month to become a
millionaire. When someone phrased it out like
that for me, light bulb just went in my mind like, why don't
more people know about this, right?
And so I think I've kind of likealmost made it like a side
mission of mine to bring out this financial literacy to as
many people as possible and to help them realize that becoming

(01:05:29):
financially literate and becoming financially secure is
not a dream anymore. It can just be accomplished with
a strong level of discipline andconsistency.
Yeah, I think they've done a bunch of studies on like drug
addicts, which is the normal, normal person.
And they gave them a choice of like, would you just cash in and

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get the $100 right now, or wouldyou wait a couple months and get
double the amount? And like drug addicts prioritize
now, now, now, now, you know, Like, I think the reason why
most people don't want to do it,even when they do know that

(01:06:11):
it'll merit a lot more resourceslater on.
He's like, why? Wait?
You know why? Like, I could Yolo.
But yeah, this importance to just, you know, if you want to
live a fulfilling life, you wantto be less stressed and be
better set up, don't go on the lottery.

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You know, like so many, only thepoor pay for the lottery.
To actually cash in true real wealth and to accumulate it, it
requires dedication, persistenceand consistency.
Absolutely. Yeah, just show up.
Yeah, just show up every single month. 100 bucks in your
investing account? Sweet brother.

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So the importance of social media presence, and now you're
big on that. Absolutely, yeah.
So if you want to lower that a bit, yeah, yeah, that should be
good. So why do you think having a
strong social media presence is important in today's world, even
outside of business? Cool.
So the way the world's heading right now, and especially even

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where it is at the current point, we are no longer in an
oil based economy or like a manufacturing based economy,
right? We are in an attention based
economy. The people who can control
attention will win. If you look at now, the biggest
companies on earth are tech companies, right?
And they're all fighting for your attention.
Instagram, Tiktok, right? They're all trying to keep keep
you on their page, right? They want your attention.

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And if you can control attention, you will win.
The best way for individuals like us to control attention is
to start posting on social media.
Because if you can post a minutelong video on Instagram and you
have like 2000 views and there'slike 8 hours of watch time, then
that's basically you being able to put yourself out there in the
minds of other people for 8 hours basically.

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And then you keep on doing that hundreds of reels and you now
basically have a fan falling, right?
You have a fan base that eventually in business like you
can use towards like a distribution channel, etcetera.
I'll go on outside business, butspecifically in business, you
get invited to so many other things, right?
Like social media basically serves as like a resume in a

(01:08:24):
way. It's a really important
statistic nowadays with how manypeople are on social media.
For example, I got invited to this podcast because only of
social media, right? I would not have known you if I
did not post on social media at all, right?
And it adds credentials to your name.
Was it Dabby or through campus where you got me the the follow

(01:08:44):
because you followed my Instagram account and I'm like
cool, this guys think this guy looks familiar.
Was it through Dobby or campus? Campus.
I made a video about campus so for those of you watching you
should check out Admins previouspodcast episode.
It was with campus and so he's aperson at U of A he wanted to

(01:09:05):
start posting on social media and he made a lot of dance tik
toks, right? Unfortunately, people gave him a
lot of undue hate and I just decided to address it.
I'm like, hey, like mind your own business, right?
And I'm like, you know, this guyhas balls that neither you or I
have right? This guy has guts and I have a
lot of respect for people who post on social media because I
know it takes a lot of bravery and it it's hard at first,
right, And so I made that real ended up getting really good

(01:09:28):
views. I think it was in like the
36,000 as of now. And that's how I get as you kind
of knew about me and I saw your content, I follow you that it
just like spun off from there, right?
Like things just spin off so quickly when you start posting
on social media, like the chances of you meeting cool
people are infinitely increased.And that's really important,

(01:09:48):
especially in a business sense, because if I want to start
making content and you make content already, it's so much
valuable for me to not only havea friend but also a connection
within the space of making content.
Yeah, true. It's just that builds this cycle
where your friend gets to introduce you to their friend

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group and then their friend group introduced to their friend
group. When it comes to social media,
right, You get the tag like, oh,this person likes school.
You scan their profile for a while.
Oh, DM them. Another person comes up because
you guys linked up and you guys collaborated and you guys link
up. It's like this like for me
podcasting. No, I, I just haven't like

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there's no shortage of podcast guests.
Let's just say, yeah, cuz there's this like with this
guest, I know this person and that person.
With this person, it's more of atime time kind of limitation for
me, right? Yeah.
I can only choose the people that that are aligned with what

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I want to talk about, you know, that that actually resonate with
me, that I actually want that could provide value to the
audience. But yeah, there's just there's
so many opportunities, man, likeputting yourself out there.
Like your connections just infinitely increase right before
I started posting content. Like, I wasn't high school when
I started, I wasn't the most social guy, right?

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And about 100 people probably knew me, right?
That includes friends, that includes family, etcetera,
right? That was not a lot.
And I had relatively ambitious goals where that number just
needed to go up. When I started posting content
on social media, that number skyrocketed.
Right now, on average, my reels are getting good views.
Probably thousands of people have at least seen my reels,

(01:11:36):
maybe a couple. 100 watch them regularly, right?
And just because of that, the amount of connections and the
randomness of life affecting youpositively increases, right?
For example, right now, let's say if we were to go to
Starbucks and we were having a conversation about social media,
right? Our lives would not change at
all. If we had that same conversation
in LA or San Francisco, etcetera, right?
Where the randomness of life just kind of enhances your

(01:11:59):
creation, then we would meet potentially other creators,
right? Or potential other like cool
guests to invite on, right? And I think that's the same way
with social media. Social media is like an infinite
kind of network hub where one video has the potential of
reaching millions and millions of people, right?
And when you sow more seeds, when you sow more videos, the

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chances of you having a good crop that yields a lot of value
for you infinitely increases. And as long as you keep on doing
the your due diligence and maximizing your input of putting
out reels, then the reach infinitely increases, The amount
of cool people you meet infinitely increases.
And there's this theory about quantum conversations, whether
you're 5 random conversations away from completely changing

(01:12:41):
your life for the better. And when you post on social
media, that chance of you havingfive random conversations
infinitely increases. There is no better way to do it
to have those kind of conversations than just on
social media. It's a powerhouse of connection.
Yeah, as Buzz Lightyear would say, to Infinity and beyond, you

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know, there's just the the universe is the limit.
You know, it's endless. And it's just the social media.
You don't know who's watching. You don't know who's tuning in,
who's actually changing their habits and their lives in the
structure and going luck. You got a good point.
Maybe I should start investing. Maybe I should break these

(01:13:22):
daunting tasks into many tasks so I can tackle them.
Maybe I should stop playing the victim and actually do something
about this circumstance that I'min.
Right? There's somebody out there right
now listening, whether it be as soon as I publish this, whether
it be 10 years down the line, dude, maybe, you know, we're
dead by then. And there's somebody 200 years

(01:13:44):
from now going home just going to check out the archives.
I wonder what the the people were like, Like, damn, these
two, these two, Whoa, like, cool.
You know, whatever happens. But that's, that's dope, man.
Yeah. How do you stay connected while
also being strategic with your content?

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So I think the biggest thing is don't do it for the money, don't
do it for fame or anything, right?
Strictly post on social media for the purpose of providing
value. When you provide value, there is
no limit to providing value. For example, let's say you set a
goal like, oh, I want to hit 10,000 followers, I want to get
$1000 a month in revenue for my social media, right?

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What happens when you hit that? Is your motivation, is your
drive just going to go away? But when you say your goal is
just to provide value, well, that's it's a limitless goal.
It has no limit. Therefore you just keep on.
It just keeps on pushing you to provide more content and provide
value. But it also aids the world in a
better way, right? When you have arbitrary goals
like money or fame or etcetera, it hinders your goals.

(01:14:48):
And when you focus on providing value, everything just scales
infinitely. And when you post strictly for
the purpose of providing value, you eventually will get better
results too. When I started posting content,
I was all about the fame, money,etcetera.
I didn't really get good results.
But when I focused on providing value, now my reels get
sometimes on average 1000 plus views.

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My reel that I did about campus,that was my highest reel about
36,000. And all I wanted to do was just
wanted to provide the value that, you know, focus on your
own life. Let him do kind of what he's
doing with his life, right? And another thing about
providing value in terms of staying authentic is if you
stumbled across your own reel, would you watch it?

(01:15:31):
As in, are you just kind of mimicking someone else's point
of view or are you actually providing authentic like your
own input and your own opinion, right.
If you would not watch your own reel, then it isn't something
you can't expect other people towatch it, right?
When you post on social media, you're asking someone for their
most important resource, their time.
And if you can't expect yourselfto watch your reel, then why

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should that person, right? And the only way to increase
that expectation of you watchingyour own reel is to provide
value. So when you want to be strategic
in terms of providing value, youhave to do it every single day.
My first reel went up November 14th, 2023, which is about a
year and a half ago. So just about 500 days, right?

(01:16:13):
I haven't been the most consistent.
I currently have 168 reels out there, a couple podcast
episodes. So that's about 1 reel every
other day kind of thing. There's been people who post
multiple reels a day, right? There's people who post one reel
a month kind of thing. The person who posts the most
will have the most chances of kind of increasing their

(01:16:33):
connections. We'll have the most chances of
getting views right. We'll have the most
opportunities to provide value. So post every single day.
And with the more you post, the better you get it too.
When I first started posting, each reel took me about 50
minutes. Now it takes me 20 minutes idea
to production. That includes editing, captions,
etcetera. Whatever, right?
And when you post every single day, you become more a confident

(01:16:57):
speaker as well. You can scroll to some of my
first couple of reels. I did not know how to talk to
people, right. A compliment that I get nowadays
a lot is I'm very well spoken, right?
That did not exist a year and a half ago, but through 168
iterations and error connect, error corrections of me
basically improving on the previous reel that compounds
like crazy. And now some of my most recent

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reels are where I've been the most public, most confident
public speaker I ever could havebeen, right?
And all it takes is you doing itconsistently and try not to
stop. And there's been times where
I've just not posted for a month, right?
I've let the excuses get in the way.
I've let my, I've let like all of those reasons come up, but

(01:17:39):
eventually you got to tackle those down and then now try to
post every single day. Yeah, dude, I'm the same way
where I thought I was a good speaker because I had a lot of
friends who seemed to think I wasn't that bad.
You know, I like this guy in my company.
They they answered my phone calls, replied to my text, but

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then I actually listened back tomy own content because with
every single episode that I publish, I listen to it like I'm
a viewer. Like before this, I was
listening to Brooke Mclean's podcast episode.
I'm almost done it in like halfway through, but as I'm
eating lunch, like, oh, good point, Advent, like good point.

(01:18:21):
You should never release anything that you're not going
to consume, right. That's why you know, it's such a
like scamming is already like terrible, right, because you're
actually just stealing from people and kind of just giving
destruction and just it's evil, man, But it's it's not something
you would do for yourself, right, So why do it to others?

(01:18:41):
It's a great rule to have and it's just it's it's are you
pause providing per net positivefor you and other people or are
you checking a dynamite and hoping something will explode
and it'll be good? Right?
It's yeah, dude. But I believe in social media.

(01:19:03):
I'm pro social media as long as you use it right like any tool.
And one more point about just like pro social media is I see
so many like friends of mine to have like no profile picture
accounts, no name accounts, right?
Like apparently now it's a flex to have 0 posts or whatever
right? Or like a low following.
Count I don't I don't really with people that have that mic.

(01:19:24):
What do you Why don't you post the picture I.
Just don't get it right now. Like it's just where the world
is heading. You have to accept it whether
you like it or not. Back in the 80s social media
didn't exist. People used to have in person
conversations right now the onlyway and that was a really good
genuine connection. Now the best way to build a good
genuine connection is just because of the introduction of
social media. You have to take advantage of

(01:19:45):
it, right? And like, you know, show me like
the trips you've been on, right?Post about that, right?
Like show me your lovely family smiling on like your beliefs
trip, etcetera, right? Or show me like that, like cool
cake you had for your birthday, right?
All of these things. It's just a way for you to kind
of build more connection on social media.
Nowadays, social media is the medium on which to build
connections. Are there positives to it and

(01:20:08):
negatives to it? Absolutely.
There's definitely a lot of negative like about binge
scrolling and doom scrolling on social media.
Yeah, yeah, like comparison, absolutely.
Comparison of Thief of Joy. And like there's so much
negativity that exists, but it'sa tool, social media.
And if you can learn to use the tool positively, it's so much

(01:20:29):
better for you. And the amount of genuine
connections that you can have with social media is a
powerhouse. So I don't even get it when
people just personally don't post like their own stuff.
Right? It's it's the best way to build
connection. Yeah, I I always think of a
producer and a consumer, right. You you should learn more on
producing rather than consuming,because if most of what you're

(01:20:51):
doing is consuming, it's probably not good for you here.
And while I don't like the yeah,for the average person, if you
don't want to post, yeah, sure, whatever.
But it's just the way you use it, like the way you look at it
too. If you're on there the whole
time your day is just you're nothaving good experiences, then

(01:21:13):
yeah, maybe you probably shouldn't have social media.
Same. This goes the same way for
credit cards, right? You can have a great credit
score by using credit card cards.
You can have a great, you know, you could credit card churn and
take advantage of all the benefits and I know, but if you
can't manage your money properly, if you Max it out 10

(01:21:34):
grand and you don't have to pay for it, then maybe you shouldn't
have a credit card. Maybe you shouldn't have social
media. If all you do is do a scroll,
all you do when you do tap on the stories, it's a net negative
into your well-being. Yeah, maybe you shouldn't have
it, but there are ways where youcan provide positivity and give
out and connect with people in the world.

(01:21:55):
Like it's I credit Instagram for, you know, the, the lots of
the connections that I have withmy friends when it comes to
making plans and memes and ideasand cool stories.
It's just this wonderful thing. But like everything, too much is
bad. You know, it's just you have to
find what's right for you. How how can it help you?

(01:22:17):
Same with ChatGPT. Same with the hammer.
If you whack your nails with it,because of course it's going to
hurt, it's not good for you. But if you use it to whack for
nails, yes, it's a great tool. That depends how you use it.
Yeah, for someone just starting out or actually, that's the next
question. So how do you stay authentic

(01:22:38):
while also being strategic with your content?
We answered that. Did we answer that?
Yeah, like the whole providing value like don't crap.
Man, for someone just starting, what's one piece of advice to
grow their brand or message online?
So aside from the whole point ofjust providing value, just

(01:23:00):
start, right? Like there's so much kind of
hindrance that people have in their brains when it comes to
doing anything for that matter, right?
But act before the fear stops you from acting, right?
The amount of time that you'll spend contemplating whether or
not to start posting, right? Or to whether I should post a
video in that amount of time, you could have already posted
one or two videos, right? I'll give an example of how I

(01:23:23):
kind of started posting is I wasgiving advice to a friend.
She wanted to kind of get her music hobby out on Instagram,
right? She wants to post a little about
it. And eventually, you know, it
could lead to connections in themusic space for her, which it
has by now. But, you know, she was a bit
uncertain about it. So I told her to give me a list
of reasons why she did not want to post.
And then I helped her tackle them one by one, right?
And then I'm like, you know what?

(01:23:44):
I think I ended up giving some pretty good advice.
And by then I'd listened to a couple podcasters and some other
Instagram people. They inspired me to kind of
share my voice out there, right?And so I did the same thing for
myself. What is stopping me from
starting? And I just tackled that list
head on. And I think one of them was
like, oh, what? I don't know what to talk about,
right? So one time in my physics class

(01:24:04):
in high school, I finished my exam early.
I just wrote out like 40 video ideas.
And I'm like, cool, now I don't have that reason.
What other reason kind of target, right?
And when you go through all those reasons, there is nothing
left to do except for the action.
So I just started posting. And yeah.
And another thing is I was 18 when I started, 17 when I

(01:24:25):
started posting, right? I'm 18 now.
I'm going to die in about 60 years, right?
Like if you. 60K we'll give it 80 man, maybe 60 is a bit too,
too short. Yeah.
Like The thing is that can be very dark topic.
It can be kind of like I found demotivating for some people,
but I like to see it is that look, I don't have a lot of time

(01:24:46):
left. And also Alex for Mozi has a
quote where in three generationsfrom now, everyone who you know
will be dead, including the people who stopped you from
doing what you wanted all along.So yeah, there might be some
people who might hate on me or they might clown me on posting
about social media, right? They might put hate comments in
my videos, but all of us are going to be dead in like 60

(01:25:07):
years, right? This is all the time we have
left and you kind of have to make the most of it.
I'm 18, if you look at the map, like 1/4 to 1/5 of my life is
already done and it's just flownby.
And the amount of time that is taken up by inaction can be used
so much better to deal with the action and then deal with
whatever comes after, right? And there's always going to be

(01:25:30):
1000 reasons to not do something, but you got to find
the one reason that makes it worth it.
I've never ever regretted posting on social media till
date. I have 168 reels out there.
I have a couple podcast episodes.
Right. It's always been net negative.
Sorry, net positive for me so far.
Net negative. Like and like with negativity,

(01:25:50):
sure, there's going to be some hate comments.
There's going to be like people writing mean things in the
comments. Yes, they do stink for a little
bit. Do.
You do, you reply to them. I've never replied with like, oh
you should delete this comment or ever.
I usually either reply with something funny or like a laugh
emoji or something or I'll just like leave it on red.
Like yes it does thing a little bit, especially when you're

(01:26:12):
starting out, but the sheer influx of positive comments far
outweighs any negatives there's.There's way more positivity in
this world than negativity. You really have to try hunting
the negativity down to find it in your life on social media.
Yes you are taking a risk like the others going to be people
posting negative stuff about youand your comments, but don't let

(01:26:33):
that get to you. It stings a bit more, but the
positive influx stays with you so much longer and it's way more
impactful. Period.
Those hate comments, man. Sometimes when I'm having a bad
day, I'm going to take it out onthem.
But like you said, you know, sometimes it's probably better
to delete it. It's better to not just reply or
like laughing emoji. But I think that what I'm going

(01:26:55):
to start doing is kill them withkindness and then actually just
be rational about it and actually reply.
Because that increases engagement though, when you're
just starting out, right? It's more comments, more
engagement. And yeah, I dude, I don't know
about you, but I always look at the comments with every single
video. I don't know what it is, but I'm
always like rarely do I leave one unless I'm I really like the

(01:27:19):
the creator or something really connects with me or, you know,
just I'd rarely comment, but I'll read through the comments
and if there's comments there about people trashing each
other. More clicks, baby.
Exactly. Like it got to a point where I
was excited when I would get a hate comment cuz I'm like hey
it's a free interaction right? Every time they post something

(01:27:40):
like it'll get re shared to thatperson's like friends, feeds etc
right? It's free interaction.
It's more clicks as you said. That's why, bro, that's why
people like Jake Paul and Logan Paul just skyrocketed cuz with
every single controversy. And then granted, it's not like
highly illegal, like they've done some pretty illegal shit,

(01:28:00):
but it's not to the point, right, where you're like, you're
in jail for 25 years to life, right?
It's just to the point where, you know, Logan's in the, the
forest and Japan, like it's, it's still really highly looked
down upon. It's like not right, but it's
not to the point where it's going to banish him forever.
And like the amount of hate those guys must have gone

(01:28:21):
through and like to this day, celebrities, they get analyzed
and nitpicked and all these things.
And they may they may be the kindest person 99% of the time.
And then 1% of the time they have a scowl on their face.
They tell their fans to go away or paparazzi catches them at a
bad time. And then they're just marked as
that bad person when really they're a kind hearted person.

(01:28:43):
And that's kind of we have to think about social media too, is
like, these people don't know us, right?
Maybe. Yeah.
With the tone of voice that you got with this, if you know in
yourself that you what you're doing is right for you, you're
not putting up an act. You're not trying to use people
as a means to an end. You're just trying to provide
value. That's it.

(01:29:04):
Then fuck the haters. Exactly.
Mentally, yeah, yeah, yeah, dude.
But yeah, man. Thank you so much for coming on
the LONG Term Podcast. No, hey, my pleasure.
This was a great experience. I'm really happy that I got to
share some of my points and I had some great conversations
with you. Looking forward to it again.
Yeah, dude, if I had that drive when I was 18, I mean, I was a

(01:29:27):
complete degenerate when I was 18, man.
Partying, drinking, drugs, and here you are, finance and making
your own reels and, you know, persevering.
Really listening to Scott Galloway, bro.
I wish that guy came into my life when I was 18.
Chris Williamson, her Mosey goggins.
Great role models. Man, Yeah, man.

(01:29:48):
But dude, I think you will go far in the future, dude.
And I, I don't think this is thelast episode with us.
I'll have to have you on one of these days again.
Absolutely. Appreciate it.
Yeah. And yeah, do you have any last
words, The viewers maybe who want to start some content or
are feeling low in life, Whatever pops up in your mind?
Absolutely, just start. The amount of time that you'll

(01:30:10):
spend contemplating to do the thing can be better spent doing
the thing and dealing with what comes after.
Yeah. Remember that poem?
Yeah, yeah. And that's always to everyone
listening and watching. There is a place for you in this
chaotic world. Never lose hope.
Strengthen your faith and keep it long term.
Laksh Chopra, everyone thanks everyone.

(01:30:34):
Peace. All right, All right.

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