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March 29, 2023 16 mins

You’d probably rather not think about poop or where it goes, yet you might after this episode. The toilets we rely on today are outdated and overworked sanitation systems that could put us at risk of disease transmission. But there is a solution. Learn how your bathroom setup is going to change over the coming decades.

This episode features Jen Hatmaker, an American author, speaker, blogger, and television presenter, in conversation with Shannon Yee, Associate Professor at the G.W.W. School of Mechanical Engineering at the Georgia Institute of Technology in the United States. Jen and Shannon discuss how safe sanitation is a cornerstone of human health and society. Still, 3.6 billion people don’t have access to safely manage sanitation in their homes which leads to preventable diarrheal diseases and sickness. Our toilets are unsustainable due to their outsize water usage. Given the global water crisis everyone in the world will be confronted with the problem of having lack of access to safe and inclusive sanitation within the next few decades. It is important to invest in sustainable, safe, and inclusive sanitation which is scalable and equitable with a focus on delivering these solutions to populations who need it most.


Make Me Care About is produced by Magnificent Noise in partnership with The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.


To learn more about our show: https://www.gatesfoundation.org/podcast/make-me-care-about

For more on The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation’s work: https://www.gatesfoundation.org

To learn more about  advances in waste sanitation:

Water, Sanitation and Hygiene Strategy: https://www.gatesfoundation.org/our-work/programs/global-growth-and-opportunity/water-sanitation-and-hygiene


For more on the work of our guest, Shannon Yee: https://www.me.gatech.edu/faculty/yee

Learn more about our host, Jen Hatmaker: https://jenhatmaker.com

Our production staff includes Sabrina Farhi, Hiwote Getaneh, Julia Natt, and our sound designer Kristin Mueller. Our Executive Producer is Eric Nuzum and the host is Jen Hatmaker.



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