August 11, 2025 • 19 mins
Our relationship with self-doubt often drives our pursuit of potential, but true growth comes from making conscious choices that challenge our limiting beliefs.
• Childhood experiences created powerful self-limiting beliefs: "I'm not good enough," "I'm weak," "I'm a failure"
• Despite achievements including playing rugby in France, representing Australia, and breaking world records, these negative voices persisted
• Day five of the 58 marathons challenge presented a critical choice between quitting or continuing through excruciating pain
• Making decisions by focusing on consequences rather than comfort provides clarity in difficult moments
• Breaking challenges into small, manageable chunks builds momentum and confidence
• The strategy of run 300m/walk 2km gradually increased to rebuild running capability
• Asking for help isn't weakness - it's essential for achieving extraordinary goals
• "You can go fast by yourself, but you won't go far"
• If you want different results, you must make different choices
• Understanding the consequences of your choices illuminates the path forward
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Lachlan Stuart (00:00):
Listen up.
If you have been listening tothis podcast for so long and you
still don't feel like you'rereaching your potential, this
episode is going to be a ripperfor you.
Over the last few weeks, I havebeen thinking more about my
life and why I'm so obsessedwith pursuing my potential, and
actually what does that evenmean?
(00:20):
I was thinking about it overthe weekend.
I was working with one of mycoaches and we were working
through keynotes, and it got toa deep level because there
became this resistance to mebeing able to show any emotion,
and what I mean by that is whenI'm telling a story.
When I am around friends andfamily, I am so awesome at
(00:42):
disassociating from what I'mexperiencing, which has served
me well for a long period oftime.
And as I was questioning myselfabout this, I started thinking
back where did this come from?
Why am I someone who is soobsessed with pursuing their
potential, yet I can't allowmyself to express what is going
on in my mind.
I cannot allow myself toexpress what I truly feel.
(01:08):
This was huge.
The reason why it was so hugefor me was because I realized
that I have been afraid ofcoming across as a whinger,
because for much of my life Ihave felt like a burden.
I have felt like a burden.
I have felt like I could beweak.
I have felt like a failure andmost I guess the loudest one to
(01:30):
me is, I haven't felt goodenough.
These came from when I wasyounger.
There's so many memories andexperiences that have validated
that, and while there are somany amazing ones that have
proved the complete opposite,for some reason they were the
loudest.
They were the ones that Ilistened to.
They were the ones that I gavepower to.
When my parents would tell meI'm amazing, when my parents
(01:53):
would tell me they love me, whenmy parents would tell me that
I'm doing well, I would stillfind moments where I didn't
finish a race.
I had an asthma attack and Iwould just remember watching run
passes.
I sat on the side with themedics and I just remember
thinking you're a failure,you're weak, how could you not
push through that?
And you're just not good enough.
(02:13):
There were other momentsthroughout my teenage years
where I wouldn't make the team.
I started rugby in the 13thseason.
I didn't make an A team, thetop team, until I was in my 15s.
When I say 15s, I was in year10.
Up until that point, you're notgood enough, you're weak and
you're a failure.
And that followed me allthrough other representative
(02:37):
teams when I wouldn't make theteam.
You're weak, you're a failureand you're not good enough.
And that just continued tofollow me.
And up until last weekend, Ihadn't wanted to admit that to
myself because I didn't want towhinge, I didn't want to be a
burden to anyone and I havealways thought if that's the
(02:57):
position you're in, you just gotto get on with it.
And I think there's some meritin that.
I do believe that it's helpedme get to where I am today, but
it has made me so hungry tochase my potential.
Are you listening to this todayBecause you want to chase yours
?
You want to know what it reallytakes, because that is what I
(03:18):
want to give you today.
I have done some pretty awesomethings.
I was reviewing things thatI've achieved over the last
decade.
I played rugby in France, Irepresented Australia in
obstacle course racing, I brokea Guinness World Record for 30
marathons in 30 days on therower and, most recently, the 58
marathons and they're justsporting achievements, not to
mention marriage, having run myown business for nearly a decade
(03:40):
, some pretty cool achievements,and I'm sure you've got a whole
heap of yours and I wouldhighly encourage you to think
about what those look like foryou.
But as I was finding myself onday five in West Wendover,
nevada, during the 58 marathons,I had plenty of time to think.
Right, it is day five when myfeet hit the floor.
(04:01):
I just remember the instantpain just shooting up my legs,
from the balls of my feet allthe way up to my hips.
I remember feeling it on bothlegs and thinking to myself this
is not good.
I have to go outside againtoday to run my fifth
consecutive marathon and I stillhave another 53 to go after
(04:25):
this one, and the pain is unlikeanything I've ever felt.
I looked down at my ankles.
My ankles were the size ofbaseballs.
The swelling was ridiculous.
My left toe had gone completelyblack.
I had pierced it the day beforeand I'm thinking how on earth
am I going to do this?
I toddled over to the when Isay toddled, for those who don't
(04:45):
know what that means.
I walked over to the toiletblock.
We were staying in a caravanpark.
I thought to myself how muchhot water can I soak my feet in
before they're going to startfeeling good, the pain's going
to move.
20 minutes later, the pain'sstill there.
So I start walking back to thevan.
As I'm looking around, I'mseeing there's a bit of incline,
but not too much else, and Ijust really thought to myself I
(05:13):
can't run today.
I'm in so much pain and it isfreezing cold.
As I got in the van I said toLiam it is minus 12, dude, it's
so fucking cold.
Man, it's going to be a toughone, but I cannot run.
I can't run today.
So I'm going to head over tothe baseball field.
There's a baseball field justacross the road.
I'm going to start there, andso I put on two layers of shirts
, two long sleeve shirts.
I put on a beanie, put on along Legionnaires hat, two
(05:37):
thermal pants and tracksuitpants and then a jacket, and I
headed over to this field and Iwas still cold.
I started walking laps thisfield and the pain was
excruciating and I had just madethis goal, or this, I guess
this rule to myself, that Iwasn't going to take painkillers
.
And so, as I started walkingalong, I'm looking down at my
(05:59):
watch and at one point my watchwas saying 14 minutes per
kilometers and at one point mywatch was saying 14 minutes per
kilometers.
That's nearly 10 hours walkinglaps around this baseball field,
250 meters a lap Mind-numbing,absolutely mind-numbing.
I started beating myself up onthose thoughts that I mentioned
earlier and it came back.
You're not good enough, you'reweak and you're a failure.
(06:22):
Who are you to think you couldtry and raise $100,000 for
mental health?
Who are you to think you coulddo something that no one in
history has ever done before?
You're not good enough.
Give up, quit.
You're pathetic.
And my mind just continued tobattle on that.
But I kept putting one foot infront of the other, trying to
(06:45):
work out how I was going tonavigate this, and at one point
I had this just wave come overme, and the wave was insane
because it made me remember andit reminded me that I chose to
do this.
No one was forcing me outsideto chase these goals.
No one was forcing me to tryand raise the funds and be the
first person in history to run58 marathons in 58 days across
(07:08):
58 states.
No one was forcing that.
I chose that and in that momentI reminded myself that I have
choices and I want you to thinkabout the choices in your life.
Because choice number one forme was I quit.
I get to get back in the vanwhere it's nice and warm.
I probably get a pizza pocketyummy and I get to put my feet
up how good.
(07:29):
But I thought about theconsequence of doing that.
The consequence of doing thatmeans there was no way in hell I
am going to raise $100,000 forthe Mental Awareness Foundation.
There is no way in hell I'mgoing to raise $100,000 for the
Mental Awareness Foundation.
There is no way in hell I'mgoing to finish it.
And therefore I didn't do whatI said I was going to do.
So when I put my head on thepillow that night, I'm going to
(07:50):
know that I quit.
I'm going to know that I didn'tgive it my best shot.
So I didn't like thatconsequence.
So I looked at the other choiceand the other choice still
sucked, like it really did.
But choice number two was Icontinue pushing on.
Every step is excruciating pain, but I continue putting one
foot in front of the other andjust tip away at the marathon.
(08:13):
It's going to continue tofreeze.
I don't know whether I'm goingto get stress fractures.
I don't know what the outcomeis, and I hated that.
However, the consequence, orthe ripple effect of that, meant
that I could have theopportunity to raise $100,000
for mental health.
I could have the opportunity tobecome the first person in
(08:34):
history to do the 58 to 58.
And, most importantly, thatchoice.
If I were to make that, when Iput my head on the pillow at
night, I could be proud of who Iwas.
I did what I said I would doand I pushed myself beyond what
I thought I was capable of.
And, man, when I thought aboutthat, I was like that is the
(08:55):
choice that I want.
And so, when I thought aboutchoices, I want you to think
about the choices that you havein your life.
We all have choices and they'renot always easy.
But the way that I went throughto start thinking about it is I
knew I needed to make adecision.
The longer I left, it meant mymind was going to continue
(09:16):
racing and, I guess, becomingoverwhelming, and that's not fun
, that's fucking chaos.
I didn't want any more of that.
So the moment that I knew I wascommitting to it, I just took
quitting off the table.
But the way that I was able toprocess and make a decision
faster was thinking about theconsequences.
So where in your life is thatshowing up for you right now?
(09:37):
Because it does for all of usand that one.
I guess.
The consequence of that and thatdecision and that choice led me
to be able to finish thatmarathon on that day, which led
me to the following day whereone of my best mates rocked up.
He rocked up from France.
I was still run, walking, I wasin a lot of pain still, but I'd
started taking painkillers,etienne said to me that morning.
(09:59):
He said Lockie I don't want tobutcher the French accent, so
I'm not going to butcher it buthe said Lockie, how far do you
think you can run today?
I thought about that for amoment, measured the pain I was
like well, these painkillers arequite nice, but still in a
(10:21):
world of hurt.
I could probably run 300 meterstoday.
And he said perfect, becausetoday our strategy is going to
be run 300 meters and we'regoing to walk two kilometers.
And I thought, far out, whydidn't I think of that?
I was either like I'm runningthe whole way or I'm walking the
whole way.
There was never any strategy orthere was no way to stack small
wins.
And we did that that day and themomentum and the small amounts
(10:43):
of confidence I was building.
I remember when we started thefirst one we were just shuffling
along and we were able to lookaround and guess, get used to
the pain again, but just talkand it took my mind off it.
But as soon as we got to the300 meters I knew that there was
some relief.
We were going to walk for a bit, we're going to have a talk,
and it was moving faster thanyesterday.
(11:03):
So that was a massive win andwe did that for the entire thing
.
Then the next day we increasedit.
We went from 300-meter run to400-meter run to 1,900-meter
walk.
The next day we went 500-meterrun, 1,800-meter walk and we
just increased until I feltcomfortable running larger
chunks again.
And that was the power stackingsmall wins.
(11:25):
And if you want to think abouthow you can do that, it's really
looking about a couple ofthings Setting yourself some
milestones, but chunking theefforts together, so the small
wins.
So where in your life could youchunk some small wins?
If it's in your career, onething you could do is chunk time
, meaning you might get yoursales calls all done at once
rather than sporadicallythroughout the time.
(11:46):
You might get emails done orchunks of work to tick those off
, because then you might have abit of free time at the end.
There's a real cool.
I'm not going to say the Paretoprinciple, it is the Puro Damo.
Sorry I'm butchering the word,but there's a timer where it's
essentially 20 minutes on 5minutes rest or 45 minutes on 5
minutes rest, but it does thatsame thing where you stack small
(12:07):
wins.
You have chunks of effort andchunks of reward or downtime or
recovery, and that worked reallywell because it helped me build
momentum.
It helped me get back in theswing of things for that day and
I cannot begin to tell you togo from the day before where I
thought we're screwed I reallywe are screwed to the next day
(12:29):
where I'm chipping away andputting some runs on the board
and I'm thinking, wow, if I canget back to running in the next
couple of weeks, this is wherewe're back on.
It's not going to fall aparthere, and that was very big for
confidence building.
And so that continued on for anumber of days and we were
definitely building momentum.
But the challenge with buildingmomentum without taking rest
(12:52):
momentum.
But the challenge with buildingmomentum without taking rest.
You got to remember.
I was running after marathon,with plenty of travel in between
, being in the cold, and I wasbattered, my mind was fatigued,
my body was extremely fatiguedand I was starting to forget
things.
I think it was around day 17.
We were in a place that wassuper icy, even the grass.
There's footage of me slippingover on the grass because it was
so icy and all the drivewayswere black ice and I was getting
(13:16):
pissed off.
And so, as I'm looking aroundlike I don't know where I'm
gonna run, so I just startedonce again walking, continued to
walk until I found this swamplooking thing and for some
reason you would assume that itwould be icy or buggery as well,
but it was not.
So I found this little trail andit was roughly eight kilometers
(13:37):
away from where our hotel wasand where the team was.
But I started running aroundthere and I was doing laps and
after a while I got into arhythm and I said to the lads
hey, can you come down, and Ijust want to refuel my water
bottles, get a quick pizzapocket, because they were just
the game changers to heat me up.
And they came down and did that.
But as I got in the van to heatup, I was like, oh, this is so
(14:00):
good, took my gloves off, put mywater bottles down and I, up
until this point, had been theone fueling or refueling the
drink bottles and getting mybars and my gels and all that
sort of stuff.
But in this moment, because Iwas warming up and I was just so
in the moment that I got out toget outside, I just continued
going.
I forgot my gloves, I didn'ttake my waters or my gels, and I
(14:23):
was just back on the road andthe lads headed back home.
I got maybe another 6k in and Iwas like feeling like I was
going to pass out.
My head was super spacey, I wastrying, my eyes were freezing,
my hands were freezing, I wasthirsty, I was just felt.
When you feel like you have noenergy, I was there.
I remember just gettingfrustrated.
I was like how did I forget allof this?
(14:44):
How could the team allow me totake off without all of this?
And I started getting reallyfrustrated.
But I also was feeling likethis could be a really severe
error.
I felt for the first time in along time that I might have made
an error that could cost me mylife.
Everything was going wrong andmy head was making things 10
(15:07):
times worse.
The guys were roughly 8kilometers away.
Back at the hotel, I wasthirsty.
I didn't know what to do becauseI was pissed off at them, but I
was also annoyed at myself.
I ended up picking up the phonecalling their TN and be like
man, can you come down and bringwater?
I've got nothing.
How did this happen?
(15:27):
And when he came, he's likewe'll be there in about whatever
10 minutes.
So I started making my way backto where they were going to
meet me and I had enough time tothink.
As I said, I was pissed off inthe beginning, but I was
reminded that these guys hadleft their families, left their
work to support me.
They had given up their time tosupport me and support this
(15:50):
crazy idea.
The thing that I wasn't doingwell was I wasn't allowing them
to help.
I was making shit superdifficult for them.
I was supposed to be the leader, but I was also the one burying
myself every day and I wasn'tallowing them to help me.
I was like I need to do that andthe reason why, even though we
were all out here to pursue ourpotential.
I was definitely chasing minewhen I thought about asking them
(16:13):
for help.
What do you think came up?
I thought about myself again.
I was like you'll be a failureif you ask for help.
You'll be weak if you ask forhelp and you won't be good
enough if you ask for help.
But what I realized?
I'm going to be battling thatfor the rest of my life.
But I am going to continue andI'm committed to pursuing my
potential, which means I need todo things well.
(16:36):
And sometimes, when you go infor these massive things like 58
marathons, you can go fast byyourself, and I had been up
until that point.
But we wouldn't go far if Ididn't allow the team to help me
.
And so we had a meeting thatnight.
I sat down with the guys andsaid look, the only thing I can
do that no one else can do isrun, so I just need to focus on
(16:59):
doing that as well as I can.
Can you guys please help mewith everything else?
And as I was saying this, I wasnervous that they were going to
be like dude, no, we're alreadydoing enough.
But there was not one bit ofhesitation from the team.
They were more than happy tohelp.
They were probably actuallyfucking relieved that now this
(17:22):
idiot who was trying to doeverything himself and making
things harder than it needed tobe had finally gone.
You boys take over, and thatwas a huge lesson there.
So I think it's reallyimportant to set the expectation
.
I set the expectation with theteam hey, can you guys?
Firstly, could you help?
Yes, they're keen to help.
Well, the expectation is thisthis is what I'm focused on.
Everything else, if you guyscan do this.
(17:42):
This is what it looks like.
And once I got the buy-in, Ijust knew every day that those
things were going to be takencare of, and that, for me, was
the biggest sigh of relief.
And I do believe that if youwant to chase your potential, if
you want to do greater thanyou've ever done, you have to
make a choice.
And, as I said at the beginningof this, your life hasn't
(18:04):
changed since you've beenlistening to this.
It's probably time to dosomething different, which means
you've got to take or make adifferent choice.
You've got to make a differentdecision.
You've got to understand theconsequences of what happens if
you keep doing what you'recurrently doing.
What will your life look likeand then think about, if I make
a different choice, one of thoseother choices that are
(18:25):
available to me right now, whatcould my life look like?
Because I'm only just gettingstarted.
I am so fucking fired up.
I've got so much happening andI want to continue inspiring you
, and we are doing that throughcoaching, and I'm going to be
launching a coaching academy formen.
Again, we're going to help themrebuild from the inside out,
(18:45):
and I'm so fucking pumped forthat.
Along with keynote speaking,I've got so many gigs booked and
I'm super grateful every time Iget to get on the stage to talk
about potential, to talk aboutresilience, to talk about goal
setting, to name a few.
But we're just getting started.
What are you getting startedwith?
Listen up.
If you have been listening tothis podcast for so long and you
still don't feel like you'rereaching your potential, this
episode is going to be a ripperfor you.
Over the last few weeks, I havebeen thinking more about my
life and why I'm so obsessedwith pursuing my potential, and
actually what does that evenmean?
(00:20):
I was thinking about it overthe weekend.
I was working with one of mycoaches and we were working
through keynotes, and it got toa deep level because there
became this resistance to mebeing able to show any emotion,
and what I mean by that is whenI'm telling a story.
When I am around friends andfamily, I am so awesome at
(00:42):
disassociating from what I'mexperiencing, which has served
me well for a long period oftime.
And as I was questioning myselfabout this, I started thinking
back where did this come from?
Why am I someone who is soobsessed with pursuing their
potential, yet I can't allowmyself to express what is going
on in my mind.
I cannot allow myself toexpress what I truly feel.
(01:08):
This was huge.
The reason why it was so hugefor me was because I realized
that I have been afraid ofcoming across as a whinger,
because for much of my life Ihave felt like a burden.
I have felt like a burden.
I have felt like I could beweak.
I have felt like a failure andmost I guess the loudest one to
(01:30):
me is, I haven't felt goodenough.
These came from when I wasyounger.
There's so many memories andexperiences that have validated
that, and while there are somany amazing ones that have
proved the complete opposite,for some reason they were the
loudest.
They were the ones that Ilistened to.
They were the ones that I gavepower to.
When my parents would tell meI'm amazing, when my parents
(01:53):
would tell me they love me, whenmy parents would tell me that
I'm doing well, I would stillfind moments where I didn't
finish a race.
I had an asthma attack and Iwould just remember watching run
passes.
I sat on the side with themedics and I just remember
thinking you're a failure,you're weak, how could you not
push through that?
And you're just not good enough.
(02:13):
There were other momentsthroughout my teenage years
where I wouldn't make the team.
I started rugby in the 13thseason.
I didn't make an A team, thetop team, until I was in my 15s.
When I say 15s, I was in year10.
Up until that point, you're notgood enough, you're weak and
you're a failure.
And that followed me allthrough other representative
(02:37):
teams when I wouldn't make theteam.
You're weak, you're a failureand you're not good enough.
And that just continued tofollow me.
And up until last weekend, Ihadn't wanted to admit that to
myself because I didn't want towhinge, I didn't want to be a
burden to anyone and I havealways thought if that's the
(02:57):
position you're in, you just gotto get on with it.
And I think there's some meritin that.
I do believe that it's helpedme get to where I am today, but
it has made me so hungry tochase my potential.
Are you listening to this todayBecause you want to chase yours
?
You want to know what it reallytakes, because that is what I
(03:18):
want to give you today.
I have done some pretty awesomethings.
I was reviewing things thatI've achieved over the last
decade.
I played rugby in France, Irepresented Australia in
obstacle course racing, I brokea Guinness World Record for 30
marathons in 30 days on therower and, most recently, the 58
marathons and they're justsporting achievements, not to
mention marriage, having run myown business for nearly a decade
(03:40):
, some pretty cool achievements,and I'm sure you've got a whole
heap of yours and I wouldhighly encourage you to think
about what those look like foryou.
But as I was finding myself onday five in West Wendover,
nevada, during the 58 marathons,I had plenty of time to think.
Right, it is day five when myfeet hit the floor.
(04:01):
I just remember the instantpain just shooting up my legs,
from the balls of my feet allthe way up to my hips.
I remember feeling it on bothlegs and thinking to myself this
is not good.
I have to go outside againtoday to run my fifth
consecutive marathon and I stillhave another 53 to go after
(04:25):
this one, and the pain is unlikeanything I've ever felt.
I looked down at my ankles.
My ankles were the size ofbaseballs.
The swelling was ridiculous.
My left toe had gone completelyblack.
I had pierced it the day beforeand I'm thinking how on earth
am I going to do this?
I toddled over to the when Isay toddled, for those who don't
(04:45):
know what that means.
I walked over to the toiletblock.
We were staying in a caravanpark.
I thought to myself how muchhot water can I soak my feet in
before they're going to startfeeling good, the pain's going
to move.
20 minutes later, the pain'sstill there.
So I start walking back to thevan.
As I'm looking around, I'mseeing there's a bit of incline,
but not too much else, and Ijust really thought to myself I
(05:13):
can't run today.
I'm in so much pain and it isfreezing cold.
As I got in the van I said toLiam it is minus 12, dude, it's
so fucking cold.
Man, it's going to be a toughone, but I cannot run.
I can't run today.
So I'm going to head over tothe baseball field.
There's a baseball field justacross the road.
I'm going to start there, andso I put on two layers of shirts
, two long sleeve shirts.
I put on a beanie, put on along Legionnaires hat, two
(05:37):
thermal pants and tracksuitpants and then a jacket, and I
headed over to this field and Iwas still cold.
I started walking laps thisfield and the pain was
excruciating and I had just madethis goal, or this, I guess
this rule to myself, that Iwasn't going to take painkillers
.
And so, as I started walkingalong, I'm looking down at my
(05:59):
watch and at one point my watchwas saying 14 minutes per
kilometers and at one point mywatch was saying 14 minutes per
kilometers.
That's nearly 10 hours walkinglaps around this baseball field,
250 meters a lap Mind-numbing,absolutely mind-numbing.
I started beating myself up onthose thoughts that I mentioned
earlier and it came back.
You're not good enough, you'reweak and you're a failure.
(06:22):
Who are you to think you couldtry and raise $100,000 for
mental health?
Who are you to think you coulddo something that no one in
history has ever done before?
You're not good enough.
Give up, quit.
You're pathetic.
And my mind just continued tobattle on that.
But I kept putting one foot infront of the other, trying to
(06:45):
work out how I was going tonavigate this, and at one point
I had this just wave come overme, and the wave was insane
because it made me remember andit reminded me that I chose to
do this.
No one was forcing me outsideto chase these goals.
No one was forcing me to tryand raise the funds and be the
first person in history to run58 marathons in 58 days across
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58 states.
No one was forcing that.
I chose that and in that momentI reminded myself that I have
choices and I want you to thinkabout the choices in your life.
Because choice number one forme was I quit.
I get to get back in the vanwhere it's nice and warm.
I probably get a pizza pocketyummy and I get to put my feet
up how good.
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But I thought about theconsequence of doing that.
The consequence of doing thatmeans there was no way in hell I
am going to raise $100,000 forthe Mental Awareness Foundation.
There is no way in hell I'mgoing to raise $100,000 for the
Mental Awareness Foundation.
There is no way in hell I'mgoing to finish it.
And therefore I didn't do whatI said I was going to do.
So when I put my head on thepillow that night, I'm going to
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know that I quit.
I'm going to know that I didn'tgive it my best shot.
So I didn't like thatconsequence.
So I looked at the other choiceand the other choice still
sucked, like it really did.
But choice number two was Icontinue pushing on.
Every step is excruciating pain, but I continue putting one
foot in front of the other andjust tip away at the marathon.
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It's going to continue tofreeze.
I don't know whether I'm goingto get stress fractures.
I don't know what the outcomeis, and I hated that.
However, the consequence, orthe ripple effect of that, meant
that I could have theopportunity to raise $100,000
for mental health.
I could have the opportunity tobecome the first person in
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history to do the 58 to 58.
And, most importantly, thatchoice.
If I were to make that, when Iput my head on the pillow at
night, I could be proud of who Iwas.
I did what I said I would doand I pushed myself beyond what
I thought I was capable of.
And, man, when I thought aboutthat, I was like that is the
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choice that I want.
And so, when I thought aboutchoices, I want you to think
about the choices that you havein your life.
We all have choices and they'renot always easy.
But the way that I went throughto start thinking about it is I
knew I needed to make adecision.
The longer I left, it meant mymind was going to continue
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racing and, I guess, becomingoverwhelming, and that's not fun
, that's fucking chaos.
I didn't want any more of that.
So the moment that I knew I wascommitting to it, I just took
quitting off the table.
But the way that I was able toprocess and make a decision
faster was thinking about theconsequences.
So where in your life is thatshowing up for you right now?
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Because it does for all of usand that one.
I guess.
The consequence of that and thatdecision and that choice led me
to be able to finish thatmarathon on that day, which led
me to the following day whereone of my best mates rocked up.
He rocked up from France.
I was still run, walking, I wasin a lot of pain still, but I'd
started taking painkillers,etienne said to me that morning.
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He said Lockie I don't want tobutcher the French accent, so
I'm not going to butcher it buthe said Lockie, how far do you
think you can run today?
I thought about that for amoment, measured the pain I was
like well, these painkillers arequite nice, but still in a
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world of hurt.
I could probably run 300 meterstoday.
And he said perfect, becausetoday our strategy is going to
be run 300 meters and we'regoing to walk two kilometers.
And I thought, far out, whydidn't I think of that?
I was either like I'm runningthe whole way or I'm walking the
whole way.
There was never any strategy orthere was no way to stack small
wins.
And we did that that day and themomentum and the small amounts
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of confidence I was building.
I remember when we started thefirst one we were just shuffling
along and we were able to lookaround and guess, get used to
the pain again, but just talkand it took my mind off it.
But as soon as we got to the300 meters I knew that there was
some relief.
We were going to walk for a bit, we're going to have a talk,
and it was moving faster thanyesterday.
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So that was a massive win andwe did that for the entire thing
.
Then the next day we increasedit.
We went from 300-meter run to400-meter run to 1,900-meter
walk.
The next day we went 500-meterrun, 1,800-meter walk and we
just increased until I feltcomfortable running larger
chunks again.
And that was the power stackingsmall wins.
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And if you want to think abouthow you can do that, it's really
looking about a couple ofthings Setting yourself some
milestones, but chunking theefforts together, so the small
wins.
So where in your life could youchunk some small wins?
If it's in your career, onething you could do is chunk time
, meaning you might get yoursales calls all done at once
rather than sporadicallythroughout the time.
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You might get emails done orchunks of work to tick those off
, because then you might have abit of free time at the end.
There's a real cool.
I'm not going to say the Paretoprinciple, it is the Puro Damo.
Sorry I'm butchering the word,but there's a timer where it's
essentially 20 minutes on 5minutes rest or 45 minutes on 5
minutes rest, but it does thatsame thing where you stack small
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wins.
You have chunks of effort andchunks of reward or downtime or
recovery, and that worked reallywell because it helped me build
momentum.
It helped me get back in theswing of things for that day and
I cannot begin to tell you togo from the day before where I
thought we're screwed I reallywe are screwed to the next day
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where I'm chipping away andputting some runs on the board
and I'm thinking, wow, if I canget back to running in the next
couple of weeks, this is wherewe're back on.
It's not going to fall aparthere, and that was very big for
confidence building.
And so that continued on for anumber of days and we were
definitely building momentum.
But the challenge with buildingmomentum without taking rest
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momentum.
But the challenge with buildingmomentum without taking rest.
You got to remember.
I was running after marathon,with plenty of travel in between
, being in the cold, and I wasbattered, my mind was fatigued,
my body was extremely fatiguedand I was starting to forget
things.
I think it was around day 17.
We were in a place that wassuper icy, even the grass.
There's footage of me slippingover on the grass because it was
so icy and all the drivewayswere black ice and I was getting
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pissed off.
And so, as I'm looking aroundlike I don't know where I'm
gonna run, so I just startedonce again walking, continued to
walk until I found this swamplooking thing and for some
reason you would assume that itwould be icy or buggery as well,
but it was not.
So I found this little trail andit was roughly eight kilometers
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away from where our hotel wasand where the team was.
But I started running aroundthere and I was doing laps and
after a while I got into arhythm and I said to the lads
hey, can you come down, and Ijust want to refuel my water
bottles, get a quick pizzapocket, because they were just
the game changers to heat me up.
And they came down and did that.
But as I got in the van to heatup, I was like, oh, this is so
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good, took my gloves off, put mywater bottles down and I, up
until this point, had been theone fueling or refueling the
drink bottles and getting mybars and my gels and all that
sort of stuff.
But in this moment, because Iwas warming up and I was just so
in the moment that I got out toget outside, I just continued
going.
I forgot my gloves, I didn'ttake my waters or my gels, and I
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was just back on the road andthe lads headed back home.
I got maybe another 6k in and Iwas like feeling like I was
going to pass out.
My head was super spacey, I wastrying, my eyes were freezing,
my hands were freezing, I wasthirsty, I was just felt.
When you feel like you have noenergy, I was there.
I remember just gettingfrustrated.
I was like how did I forget allof this?
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How could the team allow me totake off without all of this?
And I started getting reallyfrustrated.
But I also was feeling likethis could be a really severe
error.
I felt for the first time in along time that I might have made
an error that could cost me mylife.
Everything was going wrong andmy head was making things 10
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times worse.
The guys were roughly 8kilometers away.
Back at the hotel, I wasthirsty.
I didn't know what to do becauseI was pissed off at them, but I
was also annoyed at myself.
I ended up picking up the phonecalling their TN and be like
man, can you come down and bringwater?
I've got nothing.
How did this happen?
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And when he came, he's likewe'll be there in about whatever
10 minutes.
So I started making my way backto where they were going to
meet me and I had enough time tothink.
As I said, I was pissed off inthe beginning, but I was
reminded that these guys hadleft their families, left their
work to support me.
They had given up their time tosupport me and support this
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crazy idea.
The thing that I wasn't doingwell was I wasn't allowing them
to help.
I was making shit superdifficult for them.
I was supposed to be the leader, but I was also the one burying
myself every day and I wasn'tallowing them to help me.
I was like I need to do that andthe reason why, even though we
were all out here to pursue ourpotential.
I was definitely chasing minewhen I thought about asking them
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for help.
What do you think came up?
I thought about myself again.
I was like you'll be a failureif you ask for help.
You'll be weak if you ask forhelp and you won't be good
enough if you ask for help.
But what I realized?
I'm going to be battling thatfor the rest of my life.
But I am going to continue andI'm committed to pursuing my
potential, which means I need todo things well.
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And sometimes, when you go infor these massive things like 58
marathons, you can go fast byyourself, and I had been up
until that point.
But we wouldn't go far if Ididn't allow the team to help me
.
And so we had a meeting thatnight.
I sat down with the guys andsaid look, the only thing I can
do that no one else can do isrun, so I just need to focus on
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doing that as well as I can.
Can you guys please help mewith everything else?
And as I was saying this, I wasnervous that they were going to
be like dude, no, we're alreadydoing enough.
But there was not one bit ofhesitation from the team.
They were more than happy tohelp.
They were probably actuallyfucking relieved that now this
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idiot who was trying to doeverything himself and making
things harder than it needed tobe had finally gone.
You boys take over, and thatwas a huge lesson there.
So I think it's reallyimportant to set the expectation
.
I set the expectation with theteam hey, can you guys?
Firstly, could you help?
Yes, they're keen to help.
Well, the expectation is thisthis is what I'm focused on.
Everything else, if you guyscan do this.
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This is what it looks like.
And once I got the buy-in, Ijust knew every day that those
things were going to be takencare of, and that, for me, was
the biggest sigh of relief.
And I do believe that if youwant to chase your potential, if
you want to do greater thanyou've ever done, you have to
make a choice.
And, as I said at the beginningof this, your life hasn't
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changed since you've beenlistening to this.
It's probably time to dosomething different, which means
you've got to take or make adifferent choice.
You've got to make a differentdecision.
You've got to understand theconsequences of what happens if
you keep doing what you'recurrently doing.
What will your life look likeand then think about, if I make
a different choice, one of thoseother choices that are
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available to me right now, whatcould my life look like?
Because I'm only just gettingstarted.
I am so fucking fired up.
I've got so much happening andI want to continue inspiring you
, and we are doing that throughcoaching, and I'm going to be
launching a coaching academy formen.
Again, we're going to help themrebuild from the inside out,
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and I'm so fucking pumped forthat.
Along with keynote speaking,I've got so many gigs booked and
I'm super grateful every time Iget to get on the stage to talk
about potential, to talk aboutresilience, to talk about goal
setting, to name a few.
But we're just getting started.
What are you getting startedwith?
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