January 27, 2025 • 41 mins
…Continuing the conversation on transforming your health journey with us as we sit down with fitness expert Chester Lacey, who shares his no-nonsense approach to conquering hereditary health challenges like diabetes, high blood pressure, and obesity. Chester emphasizes the power of discipline over cheat meals and the transformative impact of forming new habits in just 21 days. Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned fitness enthusiast, Chester's insights on starting with walking and the crucial role of strength training for those over 60 will inspire you to take charge of your health. The episode is a powerful call to action to embrace personal responsibility and harness a determined mindset to achieve significant transformation.
In the second part of our conversation, we delve into the compelling connection between discipline, physical appearance, and professional respect. Chester and I explore how maintaining a fit and committed look can influence perceptions in the workplace. Our discussion transitions to the transformative benefits of fasting, with Chester sharing personal fasting practices that combine short-term fasting with hydration to boost metabolism. We acknowledge the diverse motivations and approaches to fasting, from religious to health-related, and highlight the individualized nature of fasting experiences. Join us as we uncover how these disciplined practices can enhance both health and personal discipline.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I hate to say this, and I hate to even see it.
But how can you watch your momdie from sugar diabetes, your
dad die from high blood pressure, your uncle die from being
obese?
You're watching these thingsand do nothing about it.
You're watching these thingsand still have the same approach
to food.
You're still eating the samething that big mama ate like
(00:24):
year after year, weekend afterweekend, day after day after day
.
And how can you expect nothingto happen to you?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
thanks again for joining us this week.
We are continuing theconversation about health,
fitness, nutrition and overallwellness.
I'm joined today by my residentco-host, jabari Pride, by
comedian extraordinaire andco-host of the Steve Harvey
(00:54):
Morning Show, mr Kia JuniorsBates, and our expert this week
is Chester Lacey, a man who hascommitted himself to combating
laziness, disease and justoverall complacency in not just
himself but everyone around him.
(01:15):
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Please remember that this is acontinuing conversation, so be
sure to go back and listen tolast week's episode, part one,
for this to make sense.
Welcome to Manhood Matters,where we have real conversations
regarding real issues with realpeople with real experience.
(02:19):
Let's get to it so I can't havea cheat day.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
The reason being you gotta think about this.
You've been cheating your wholelife Before you got to me.
You've been cheating, damn yeah, but you Asking me for a cheat
meal Already.
How old are you, man?
You're 46 years old.
You've been cheating For 46years.
Now.
You wanna get serious?
You gonna chill.
So when I'm gonna get A cheatday, huh yeah.
Show me you can lose 40 pounds,and then I'd give you one
(03:02):
Gotcha.
Show me you could lose 30pounds, and I'd give you one.
Show me you could drop 15pounds, and I'd give you one.
Show me something first, don'task me for nothing.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I love that, so give me something.
So.
I can give you back something,because let me tell you
something.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
In that discipline, in you going that way, you know
what's going to happen, youdon't want it.
You, what's going to happen?
You don't want it.
You're going to say, fuck thatcheap meal.
Yeah, because you're going tosay to yourself I'm looking this
good by doing this.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Hell, no, I ain't going to eat that bullshit?
I can see my ass.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I can't get fine.
Right now I'm talking about fatfolk all day.
Fat ass out my way.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
You're going to be on there with your shirt on.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I ain't even buying shirts.
You gonna be out there WithSteve off Getting blood and then
getting Wired and open.
Everything I wear Is a vest.
Everything, taylor Well.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I'm telling you Right now Chiz, this kid just done,
chiz.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And I promise you, man, it's gonna happen for you,
brother, I promise.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But yeah, man, I say that to say Because you gotta
Think about this If, mentally,I'm already thinking about
achievement, I'm not thinkingabout the goal well, it's, it's
what's been fed to us for a longtime, because here's the thing
right, we hear how do you dothis and you can remain
disciplined in a way where youdon't have that craving, so all
right so do I give in to thatcraving, but I limit it to one
(04:20):
day, or whatever it may be soonce you do something for 21
days, it becomes a habit, right?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
so after that 21 days of you doing that, you have
done a phenomenal job.
If you did what you're supposedto do, you're gonna be down 10,
15, 20, it just depends ongaining, if that's your yeah it
just depends on your level ofseriousness.
I tell people this all the time.
I'm going to give youeverything to set you up for
(04:47):
success, to the point where, ifit don't work, I'll give you
your money back.
I'm going to give you your mealplan, your water regimen and a
cardio regimen, everythingdesigned to get you towards the
goal right.
And if you do everything I'mrequesting of you to do and you
do not change, here go yourmoney.
(05:07):
That's how sure I am of what Ido, right but they have to do
their part.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
You're saying they got to do their yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
That's all.
All you got to do is do thehomework.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Let me ask you this Is there what's an easy way for
men to start men in particularwithout feeling overwhelmed?
There's someone who hasn't doneshit in a super long time,
whether they're obese, orwhether they're just like too
small, whatever, you know.
Wherever they fall on thespectrum, what can they?
What can they do?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
What's the small steps?
Can they?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
do to start somewhere .
Let's say you don't have atrainer.
Let's say you can't.
Not everybody could get to Chagainst Chester, right?
What can they do to move andnot feel overwhelmed?
Walking, Walking.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, I need that.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
But see, at a certain point see like after the age of
60, the only thing that's goingto be important is strength
training.
So you're going to have to findyour way to the gym.
If you're a silver sneaker andyou're 60 years old, find your
way to the gym.
If you're a silver sneaker andyou're 60 years old, find your
way to the gym.
Because everyone, after the ageof 60 or higher, you're going
to start running into spells ofsyncope.
(06:10):
Those are dizzy spells andthose are spells where you end
up falling and fracturing yourface, hip, thigh, knee or
whatever.
The only way to slow thatprocess down is by strength
training.
Because what will happen is, ifyou do not do any strength
training leading up to that age,when you fall you ain't gonna
even be able to pick yourself up.
You hit that flow.
(06:31):
You're gonna be sliding intothe front door because you can't
even pick yourself up off theground is there a point of no
return for some people in your,in your, opinion?
no, I feel like long as you'reliving and breathing, there's
always an opportunity.
That's because I solely believein mankind.
I've seen so many stories.
(06:52):
I've seen so many testimonies.
I've seen a lady get started at70 years old and was a big,
obese lady.
And four years down the line,she was slim and in shape and
living more than some youngpeople.
So at the end of the day, no,you cannot make excuses for life
.
You just have to find a way toget it done.
(07:12):
Me, that's my motto.
Don't give me no excuse.
Find a way to get that shitdone.
I don't care if you got to goat fucking 11 o'clock at night.
I don't care if you got to goat 12 o'clock in the morning.
I don't care if you got to goat 12 o'clock in the morning.
I don't care if you got to goat I wake up at 3 am Me.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You sound like ET right now, bro.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I wake up at 3 am Me Going in my garage to do cardio
and doing fasted abs in themorning.
Me Because I want to look likesomething.
It ain't for nobody in my house, it ain't for nobody on this
podcast, it ain't for nobody inthis, it's for me.
This is how Chess want to look.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, how you show up is so critical?
Because I will tell you, man,even what we do, jabari, we show
up and we meet people.
Whether it's a business meeting, whether it's a sales
presentation, I am treateddifferent based on the way I
look.
I'm in shape.
When I go shake someone's hand,everything matters right.
And you show up and you lookdisciplined.
That's all they see about you.
(08:10):
They're like this person iscommitted to something right.
Someone shows up in a businessmeeting and they're like ripped.
The first thing you think aboutis well, that's not something
you're born with, this issomething you work towards.
So this person is committed toexcellence.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Your respect level for somebody who looks the part
is going to be totally different.
And watch this.
They may not even have theknowledge.
Wow, yeah, they're just doingthe work.
They're just grinding, they maynot even have the knowledge,
but based off their appearancealone, you're going to give them
the attention.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So I asked you this question earlier.
You never got a chance toanswer it because I cut you off
my bad.
Talk to me about fasting.
We talked about nutrition.
Talk to me about fasting,because that has to be there.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
So I you know me personally I believe in fasting
to a certain point, but I don'tbelieve in fasting like six to
nine hours or not like that.
Me personally, when I firstwake up, if I'm waking up at
three o'clock, I will fast aboutfour.
I mean, you know, about fiveo'clock or maybe six, but in
(09:12):
that time I'm fasting, I'mdrinking a copious amounts of
water, so I'm trying to flush,I'm trying to push out
everything from the night beforeif it didn't come out, and
everything in that morning.
So when I start eating my foodbecause I know if I drink 16
ounces of water, it's going toautomatically speed up the
metabolism so I'm alreadyputting fire on the wood
(09:33):
immediately once I startdrinking that water.
So then once I eat my firstmeal, it's going to absorb all
the nutrients and it's going togo to all the right places.
So fasting is good but it'sbased off how you come off the
fast.
You can't fast six to ninehours and then go right to
mcdonald's.
It's not smart and it's notgonna help you what about?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
fasting.
People who fast a couple ofdays like my wife's done it, you
know, um she does a lot ofresearch on that stuff.
Santana's done it.
Um hell, they try to kill me,trying to get me to do it, for
one day I almost died 36 hoursfasting this stuff that they do
routinely.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, it is studies that prove it does work.
Yeah, you know, and I justdon't have as much information
in relation to that.
But also, at the same time, Iwould say this Sometimes people
fast for religious purposes, andI respect that, you know.
Sometimes people fast forreligious purposes, and I
respect that.
You know I will never goagainst anybody fasting for
religious purposes or religiousreasons or anything like that.
(10:29):
So whatever they're doing, uh,to make them feel better
spiritually, and if it's makingthem feel more whole, then I'm
all for that.
So it it me.
With the health you coulddisregard that.
When it comes to the spirit andthe word of God, I'm all for.
Whatever you feel like you needto do to get closer to the
(10:50):
spirit and to the word, or towhatever your belief system is,
I'm all for that.
Uh, but in reference to thefasting, like, like I said, it's
good to a certain extent, butfor me, I just feel like I don't
have as much information onthat side.
But also, at the same time, Ijust feel like how am I going to
be able to get the propernutrition for my body if I'm
fasting six to nine hours a day,and then when is my last meal
(11:12):
going to be?
Yeah, I'm not the Lord, youknow.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Now we're talking days Like people will take it
seriously.
Even again, talking to Santana,he's like even every 30 days or
so it'll be either a 24-hourfast, sometimes a 36-hour fast.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Fastness is some crazy thing I'm doing, just if
it's not for religious purposes.
Why would I give up food, metoo.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
A chicken sandwich.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Because I believe that?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Well, it's not.
What is it?
It's not religious, I love whatyou're saying they're doing it
because of health reasons.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I'm going to do some research on that and the next
time I come on this podcast, Ihave more information for you
about it.
But I need to understand what'sthe purpose behind it, because,
I agree with you, it's like ifthe body is without nutrition,
where is the nutrition comingfrom?
If I've been fasting for 24, 36, or 72 hours, am I putting my
body in such a deficit to thepoint where I cannot move?
(12:05):
Am I weak?
Am I lethargic?
What am I?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I mean, at the end of the day, Are they just trying
to like jumpstart ketosis, youthink?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I think that too, Like because I think sometimes
you can fast to reset yoursystem.
You know, I know that, you know, but I also know that you could
do three, three days no carbsand that resets the digestive
system.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So can you explain ketosis, just in case people are
listening.
They're like I don't.
I have no idea what ketosismeans.
I'm sitting here and didn'tknow what it is so my
understanding of ketosis is,when you start to starve, your
body it starts to burn insteadof burning what it normally
burns, let's say the, I guess,the simple carbohydrates it
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starts burning like the morecomplex stuff, so like the fat
that you're storing.
You burn off all the silly stuff, so now your body's like we
don't have anything, so now Igotta go into the deep freezer,
yeah, and I gotta start pullingthe meat out of the deep freeze
and start burning that up.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
In my opinion, the ketosis thing is just like doing
fasted cardio.
Fasted cardio and nighttimecardio will be almost like doing
the same thing.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
So you said fasted, fasted cardio.
What is that?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
The only way for the body to truly be fasted.
You have to be done eating.
For what is it like?
Eight to nine hours.
So, whatever your last meal is,you need to be done eating.
For what is it like?
Eight to nine hours.
So, like whatever your lastmeal is, you need to be eight to
nine hours before you wake upand do whatever.
So it's like, say I stop eatingat 12, wake up at eight o'clock
I'm fasted.
That means there's nothing in mysystem because my body is
(13:40):
ridding and burning everythingoff Before I wake up.
So that's why, immediately whenyou wake up, sometimes you
might do one, two, sometimesthree To the bathroom After you
finish completely using thebathroom.
I don't know, for some reason Icould use the bathroom two
times and as soon as I get inthe shower I gotta use it again.
I don't know what the hellthat's about, but so after my
(14:00):
third time I'll tell you what'sabout?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
It's about washing your ass.
Forget the fitness part.
This is about bathing.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, but up to say after I get out of the shower,
after that third time, that'swhen you want to weigh yourself,
because that's when you're atyour true weight.
The moment you finish using thebathroom completely, that's
when you're at your true weight.
That's just something toremember.
Yeah, but then my body iscompletely rid of everything and
now I'm ready to go do fastercardio.
(14:28):
So the faster cardio is gonnaburn directly on body fat,
because it ain't nothing else inhere.
That's why doing faster cardiois so good and doing faster abs
is so good, because it's nothingin the system to impede you
from developing these musclesright here, because there's no
carbohydrates in there.
(14:49):
There's really nothing in there.
And then I'm just focused oncentrally burning body fat.
To burn body fat is slowresistance, long duration.
Slow resistance meaning like Icould just be walking.
But it has to be a longduration and that's the.
I would say that the terraincannot change, so it needs to be
(15:09):
on the three incline.
30 minutes, speed two I'm goingto hit after 12 to 20 minutes
of exercise.
You burn through all yourcarbohydrates, your sugar, and
the only energy source to beused after that 12 to 20 minutes
is fat.
So that's when, after that 12to 20 minutes.
I'm in a fat burner zone.
So that's why most of the timewhen you're doing a cardio, you
(15:31):
won't notice you start burningor sweating until after 12, 15
to 20 minutes.
Sometimes For me it's like 13or 12.
For me, as soon as I hit 12, Istart sweating, but that's
because everything is burned off.
Now I'm in that fat burning,I'm in that fat burning zone.
But you know, it's just so manyfactors when it comes to all of
(15:51):
that and so Do you have to haveyour heart rate at a certain
zone as well?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It does.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And that's what I was just gonna say because it's got
like be over like 100 for acertain age, like 109 to 110 is
like 40s or something like that,and uh, 50s is just a little
bit higher.
But they have the sensors onhere so but the most majority of
the time, the higher you takethe incline, the more the heart
rate gonna go up.
Yeah, it makes sense.
You don't necessarily have toput the speed up so high.
But what I try and challengepeople to do is try not to use
the handrails.
So put it at a speed where youcould not have to use the
handrails and just do it likethat.
(16:26):
But back to your question.
Yes, I do believe that, like yousaid, the fasting is the
purpose that I'm doing, that isto get some of that fat that
they uh, it's hard to target, toconcentrate on that, and I
think that's the purpose ofdoing that.
For sure got it now that you.
You say that I know for a fact.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's the reason why people are doing it, because if
it's not for a religiouspurpose, it's solely to reset
the system and to centralize uhfat burn in those stubborn areas
but then when you, when youcome off that fast, you can't
just go right back to McDonald'sright, hell, no.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
So like what's the first thing you should do, why
not?
Who said, is it a rule?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, It'll mess your stomach up for one.
You'll start throwing up.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So what's the first thing?
You should probably like Water,water and something simple,
like Like fruits, vegetables.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yes, like, uh like fruits vegetables, water fruits
vegetables, mild fruitvegetables, and then just start
slowly implementing to yoursister don't try and have a full
meal, just kind of like got it,you know slowly introduce it
and then, once the metabolismcranks up, you'll you'll know
when it's time to eat, for surejust the our community is is
struggling with diabetes and allkinds of things you know.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
You mentioned some to me that I haven't heard you
mention here in the podcast.
I'll say it because that linestuck with me.
You said that for us and a lotof people in our community,
health, fitness, wellness is anoption, oh yes, whereas with
other communities it is aresponsibility.
It's a requirement.
It's a must.
(17:56):
Yeah, not an option, it's justresponsibility, it's a
requirement.
It's a must.
Yeah, not an option.
It's just something to do.
So what is there?
Have you found that there arecultural, societal challenges
that make us think that way?
And how do we kind of like helppeople get on the right path?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I think, to be honest with you, due to history and
due to what has happened to ourpeople over the years, it has
created a mindset in which wefeel like um, for one we're
invincible and for two, uh, thatum and nothing happened to me,
yeah and for two, that thingsare optional.
(18:34):
Uh, and I and I hate to say this, and I and I hate to even see
it.
But how can you watch a mom diefrom Sugar diabetes, your dad
die from high blood pressure,your uncle die from being obese?
You watching these things anddo nothing about it.
You watching these things andstill have the same Approach to
(18:54):
food, you still eating the sameThing that big mama ate Like
year after year, weekend afterweekend, day after day after day
.
And how can you expect nothingto happen to you?
And that's that's the problemin our community, because we
feel invincible.
It ain't gonna happen to me.
I watched the podcast I mean nota podcast, but I watched the,
(19:16):
the uh, uh, the netflixdocumentary of jamie foxx.
And that was his first thing.
He said man, this me, man, thisjamie foxx, man, how this gonna
happen to me, right, right,that's because we believe that
we could just go about life anddoing whatever we want to do and
ain't nothing gonna happen.
You cannot sit here and tell meyou're gonna eat the same thing
(19:36):
that you've ate since, and andI'll say this because you don't
really remember what you've beeneating at one years old but I'm
gonna say since the age of 10years old, all the way up to 40
years old, and you feel likethat is not going to affect you
at all.
You've been having the samehealth habits and you, you take
the same approach for food sincefrom 10 to 40 and you feel like
(19:58):
you're not going to have nohealth conditions.
You ain't going to have nosugar diabetes, you ain't going
to have no high blood pressure.
You only drink a cup of water aday.
You love sweets.
You got a desk job where yousitting there and you getting
big back, big back I'm talkingabout Cadillac back, because
they bringing in desserts andthey having potlucks and they
(20:21):
bringing in pies and the vendorsbringing in stuff.
You just eating, eating andsitting, and eating and sitting
and you expect nothing to happen.
And see, the danger in it allis this we put more value on the
job than we do our body.
I got to get to work, but yougot.
(20:43):
I mean, man, it'd be so sad.
Your shirt's getting bigger andthe pants getting bigger too.
I mean, it's so crazy.
I lived in Ohio for four years.
I was topping the region outthere as a personal trainer.
I trained so many people Openheart surgeons, doctors, lawyers
.
I was training some of the Mostinfluential people In the
(21:03):
community and they valued meBecause they knew I knew what I
was doing for one and then fortwo, they knew I was passionate
About it.
But when I came back here Tovisit from time to time and I go
to see people At my old churchand stuff like that, and I'm
sitting here like Every yearthese folks Getting bigger and
bigger.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
We need some more room.
Yeah, I mean, you know, theysaid the shoulder, the shoulder.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Boy, that job right there, it blow my mind.
Yeah, I say you just don'tnotice that neck getting thicker
and thicker, do you?
But Some people just don't takeit serious.
They don't take it seriousuntil the doctor tell them.
And I'm going to be honest withyou by the time the doctor tell
you that you have a condition,you still ain't going to change
Because your body and your mindyou're so used to being a
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certain way.
If the doctor tell you you gotto lose 30 pounds in 30 days,
you're just going to go on anddie Because you're so used to
having that happen.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
That's where we at yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And I hate to say that, but it's like us as a
community, we got to make itmore important Because, like I
said, everybody holds a veryimportant part in each family
that you're in and if somethingwas to happen to any person in
that family who is a veryvaluable person, it's going to
shake up the whole family and,like I said, and like you've
(22:26):
heard on this podcast you'veheard it's only an emergency to
us, it's not an emergency tothem people coming to your house
, it's not an emergency to thatdoctor or that nurse.
It's just another job.
You got to take care of you.
You have to be serious aboutyou Because they not going to be
(22:52):
.
That's powerful, bro.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, man, I have some questions, man, like about
some of the things that we'restroking out.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Man, what you know stress and you know, you know
that's what we work out it'slike to to relieve the stress
because you, a lot of times,when you do not have an outlet,
your body is like a tea kettlefilling up with pressure.
If it don't come out, it'sgonna come out on somebody, and
the majority of the time theycome out on somebody that we
(23:19):
truly love.
So we burning bridges becausewe have no outlet.
We burning bridges with ourdaughters, our sons, our wives,
our brothers because we sofrustrated with all this pent up
frustration because we have nooutlet.
We getting bigger and bigger,my foot starting to hurt and I
don't want to go to the doctor.
It's sad, but that's what I'msaying.
(23:49):
It's not an option.
It should be a mandatory thingin our community, especially how
things have, how we have beenbrought into this society.
We need to be more seriousabout what we're doing so we can
stay in the society.
Ultimately, man, you got tounderstand.
Since the beginning of time,they've been talking about
population control.
This is all a game that we'rein.
It's population control.
(24:11):
If we make the food where it'sso addictive to the point where
you can't have just one cookie,I can't, you gonna have three,
four, five.
Yes, we did that on purpose.
Wow, we're doing this stuff onpurpose.
Covid was on purpose.
Yeah, it was an emergency toyou, but it's not an emergency
(24:35):
to them.
They just throwing your body inthe back of the damn building.
And the reason why America gotrocked by it so much is because
our level of immunity is down.
Most people, if 90 percent ofAmerica, are obese.
Any virus that comes throughthe United States is going to
(24:55):
rock a whole bunch of people,and what that's going to do in
return?
Minimize the population,because they already feel like
it's not enough food to feed thepeople.
So we have to find ways tominimize the population.
Viruses, disease, illnesses,food.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
There's something you just said a little while ago I
don't think that we as black menever really take seriously.
We don't really think about it.
It's how the people will beimpacted People, countless Wives
, our kids, hell, mom, you knowOther people who are looking to
you in a certain way and we'renot taking care of this one
human that we're in charge oftaking care of now.
(25:38):
What do you think that is?
What do you think we resistthat so much as men?
Is it what you talked about?
Is it just this feeling ofbeing invincible?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I truly believe.
It's a feeling of beinginvincible, or this can't happen
to me but see um, or do we justworry about ourselves?
Last no, Because I find thatsometimes I just feel like that
for me?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I don't even think about me, bro.
Sometimes I find that it's achallenge.
I'm thinking about everybodyelse, I'm thinking about what I
got to do and, like I told youearlier in the show, like I was
just saying, like you know, likewhere I've been mentally,
mentally it's go go, go tryingto figure some shit out, trying
to solve some other issue.
But I'm not thinking about meat all.
I got shit that hurts.
You know it's funny, you knowyou look at me.
You'd be like you know you're atrainer, you could probably
(26:18):
pick it out.
But a lot of people would lookat me and go, oh, he's in shape.
And just the other day, just Iwas like that tea kettle.
You know, I just felt like thisurge.
I'm not a runner, I hate running, right, I right, I play sports
to not not to run, if that makessense.
Like I'll play soccer, causethere's a goal.
I run for 90 minutes.
But me just running, I don'tlike doing it.
And I had the urge.
It was like some spiritualcalling to me saying you need to
(26:40):
go run to let the shit out.
And you know I ran.
I got to my front gate and Iwas winded.
Now, normally, if you don't, ifI didn't test this.
I go play soccer tomorrow.
Be like oh, there's a game,pickup game.
Yeah, let's go, I'm gonna killthese dudes.
That's the way I'd be thinkingabout it.
But I actually ran to my gateand I was.
My goal was to go, you know, upthe street.
I got to my gate, I was likeshit this is the first time, and
(27:03):
so it was reality setting infor me, saying you know, you've
neglected yourself, you'veneglected your body, you've not
taken care of yourself, youhaven't done anything.
How dare you think you can justget up, pick it up?
I thought, I thought I couldjust pick it up where I left it
off, you know I left it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I was like I can just go run a few miles right now,
not a problem.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
And then I got to my gate and I was like I'm tired.
I ran up the street.
I had I had an excuse rightbecause I turned right.
I started going and you see howit's like a dead end, it's all
like forest and shit.
I ran up here and I heard a dogbarking.
I was like, ah, I'm going toget bit by a dog.
I ran back home.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Safety.
I was like, yeah, I was likethat's my excuse.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I need an excuse.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I was like I'm going to run back home, man.
I think it is a lot to do withus black men always having to be
take care of everybody, likeyou know, like my father you
know of.
Back in 2017 he had a heartattack, right, father?
You know?
He worked for southwestern bellor at&t.
(28:03):
Actually, you know, 45 yearsretired, he actually do, like
you know, and my father gotdifferent type of strength, like
he ain't working out type ofstrip.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
But my dad, goddamn strong, like if he want to hold
your ass you're not finna,resist, I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
And I'm telling you like it's like even for him, man
, like he had a heart attack,man, and it really hit me really
hard because I'm like, wait aminute, he's solid.
No, not him, that's solid.
No, not him, that's Superman,that's right.
So when you said that, likethis is not going to happen to
me, that's a real mentality,that's some wrong.
Like I got to think about that.
(28:40):
I don't know what you, Stephon,I'm just saying the other day,
man, I was with him the otherday when I was talking about it.
This was wrong with you,Wallace wrong with you.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
While I was just I, I filled up, I was, I was full
too.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Part of the reason we do this podcast, too, is we
connect people, and ain't crazyyeah, because I can't tell you.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
It's like so far it's only been a few episodes and we
just have people meeting eachother and connecting.
So you know, I'm blessed tohave people in my life, like I
have jabari in my life.
Who can I mean to you?
Right and then santana connectme to the connected me to you,
and Right and then Santanaconnected me to you, and now you
guys are connected.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And the reason why me and Santana I've been knowing
Santana over 10 years.
We served as armor bearers forour bishop, we did security for
the bishop at the time and meand Santana we've always had a
great relationship For years, tothe point where, like he said,
the garage gym I was up at hisgarage gym Training him In his
(29:37):
garage gym, him and his neighbor.
You know Because, like Santana,he followed my story.
He's watched me Morph into abodybuilder.
He knows what you know.
He knows me very well when itcomes to this, so he know that I
went and got the information.
He know I studied to show thatself-approval.
He know I know what I'm doing,correct.
So for him to recommend me toyou.
(29:58):
And it's so crazy because meand Santana hadn't talked
because of his illness orwhatever, and I was trying to
give my brother his space,because a lot of times with men
you don't want to be over a manwhen he's dealing.
You know I could check on you,but just to be all the time on
you it's like, bro, I'm tryingto figure this shit out.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
You know what I mean.
Yeah, it's funny you should saythat, because I actually worked
out a formula for this.
You know, because you'reactually right, I deal with the
shit I deal with every day orwhoever you know.
Whatever you got to deal withevery day.
I don't want, I don't want tohear from people.
I don't.
You're not calling me with asolution, you know.
All I know is that you know youcall me, whatever it is.
So what I've done because whatI found is that I still want you
(30:41):
, as my brother, to be there forme.
I don't know how to ask.
So if I know that a brotherneeds me and and I've got
someone that's going throughthis now, he's done with some
things right now, and what Itold him is this I said look,
I'm going to call you Friday atthis time.
I'm going to call you Friday atsix o'clock.
If you don't want to talk,don't answer, but I'm going to
call you, no matter what.
If you don't answer, I'll knowit's because you don't want to
(31:03):
talk.
Or two days ago I called him.
We were on the phone for anhour and a half.
Right, that was his choice toanswer, but my job was hey, I'm
going to show up for the nextthree months.
You answer, you answer, youknow, you answer, you answer.
But just so you know, I'm hereif you feel like having this
(31:27):
conversation and if you don't, Iget it, because I'm in a place
where I don't know if I can talkto you right now, you know so
when I'm going through my shitLike my best friend man.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
You know he's going through a lot right.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
And you know, like you know, they call me because
they know I got broad shouldersright and to hear your best
friend man say man, I need tolay this on you.
I don't feel like I look, youknow what I'm saying, like I
don't.
I'm, I'm having trouble withthis man, I'm, I'm masking
(31:59):
something here.
You know, my kids have hurt myfeelings.
I said this about them and thisI provide everything.
I gotta be the husband.
I'm the only check in here,like, like he's really going
through something man yeah I'mmercy, you know what I'm saying
and you have to learn how to.
You know what I'm saying.
Be a friend.
It ain't always about Trying tosolve the problem.
Sometimes you just need To lethim get it out.
(32:20):
Yes, sir, I sat there anddidn't say nothing, man, and
watched my best friend Of 25years Just break down.
Yeah, and I didn't say a word.
I just sat there for over anhour, man, I'm talking about
bawling, grown man bawling.
Yeah, that's how much pressurethey be putting.
(32:41):
That's what's leading us tothese strokes.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, and to go back to circle, right back to what
we're saying we have I love thisanalogy the the whole tea
kettle thing.
Yeah, the outlet needs to bedoing well, it's not the only
thing, but it physical fitness,wellness, taking care of
ourselves, self-care, self-careit's it's so so important
(33:04):
because again, especially for usmen.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Man, like mental health is so important for us
men, just like you said, becausewe deal with a lot on a daily
basis.
If you have kids, you deal withone a lot, or if you have a lot
of family members who justdepend on you, it's a lot.
You hear a lot, you deal with alot and trying to find ways To
provide for all of these people,because you hear the stuff but
(33:26):
you still got to find a way toprovide.
You still got to.
Even sometime when you ain'teven got a way, even when you
don't even know what to do, youstill in your mind feel like
because I know this has been me,I've been on a faith walk for a
long time and sometime when itain't been there, I'll say Lord,
(33:50):
I know you're going to do it,and no later than the day in he
done, did it every single time.
So that's strong.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, talk to us about some of the resources you
talked about earlier, becauseI'm really interested in and I
want to make sure everybody hasinfo.
Again, this will be in the shownotes so people can go and
check it out, click the linksetc.
But, um, you mentioned theclinic is, uh, as far as making
sure we go and get tested,understanding what the blood
panel, what that looks like, sowe could know what the right
(34:21):
path is and how to get startedchecking out testosterone levels
etc.
Where is that?
I mean that's for people herein georgia obviously so for the
people here in georgia.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
They have a couple of places that I recommend.
Uh would be ageless Men andBody Symmetry.
Those are two places that Irecommend.
They do really good work.
They'll do a blood panel on you, they'll test your blood and
everything, and then they'll goover all the information with
you.
Now you're dealing with doctors, like you're not dealing with
no people off the street.
You're dealing with certifiedpersonnel.
(34:50):
These people know what they'redoing.
They people off the street.
You're dealing with certifiedpersonnel.
These people know what they'redoing.
They're not going to give youwhat you don't need.
No, they're not giving youanything that you don't need.
You're not going to getperformance dosages.
You're only going to get whatis recommended to bring your
body to homeostasis, and that'sit.
You are going to sign acontract, too, because it's
going to state that you can onlywork with them.
You can only use their stuff,because their stuff is
pharmaceutical based.
It's all been tested andapproved, so they don't want any
(35:15):
liability with you trying to dosomething else or use something
else, and then they end upbeing sued, and what you're
referring to is people who geton TRT and they start to feel
really good, or anything.
Because they may not recommendTRT, they may recommend another
supplement or whatever, butwhatever it is, it's all
pharmaceutical-based, it's allFDA-approved and all this other
(35:36):
stuff.
So it's like you don't have toworry about any issues and
they're the ones doing themonitoring, they're the ones
doing the blood work.
They'll be calling you, goingover your panel and everything,
so you can get a goodunderstanding of what's really
going on.
That's one place I mean reallygoing on.
Um, uh, that's one place.
I mean the two places Irecommend.
Also, you can definitely go toyour primary care physician and
(35:57):
ask for them to do just a basicblood panel on you, where it's
just going to test your blood ondifferent foods and stuff like
that, and it'll be able to showyou what you're allergic to,
what you're not allergic to andwhat your body can handle and
what it cannot handle.
Um, so those are the two thingsthat I definitely recommend
that we do.
Uh, you know, get yourtestosterone levels checked, get
a blood panel done and so thatyou kind of know what you're
(36:19):
allergic to and what you're notallergic to.
And, uh, you know, get withsomeone who is well-versed when
it comes to personal training,fitness and nutrition.
Don't just randomly picksomebody.
Ask these people where havehave you been certified, how
long have you been certified,and have you ever dealt with
someone like myself?
Me personally, I'm here foranybody who needs the help.
(36:41):
You can find me on Instagram.
I have a muscle by the poundpage.
It's muscle B-U-Y the pound,because I believe you're buying
muscle.
When you connect with me.
I also have a personal page,which will be BMG underscore
Chester.
That's my more personal pagefamily, bodybuilding and stuff
(37:02):
like that but you can definitelyfind me there as well.
I do have online programs, soyou'll see a lot of the links
and stuff in my bio and whatnot.
But, yeah, a lot of peopleconnect with me basically
through word of mouth.
I feel like word of mouth isthe ultimate networking tool,
because the reason why word ofmouth is more beneficial than an
(37:24):
IG page or an IG post or aFacebook page or post is because
this person has an experience.
It's just like a person goingto a restaurant and they can
already vouch that the food isgood because they've been going
there for three to four weeksand they know for a fact the
food is really good, versussomebody saying let's go check
this new restaurant out.
(37:44):
You go there and the food isterrible.
So a lot of people connect withme through word of mouth.
But you have all my socialhandles if need be.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I'll make sure that's posted in the show notes as
well.
So make sure you give me thatso I can make sure it's up there
, because you will work withpeople, even if they are not.
You know.
You can work with them onlineas well, you can design a
program for people so they cango ahead.
How difficult is that forsomeone to actually?
You know, you got someone inDallas, Texas, saying hey, I
want to work with you, I lovewhat you do.
Now you're really relying onthem to do what they're supposed
(38:16):
to do because you're not thereto watch it.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Well, most of the time, people like that, who are
out of town, they're going to bemore serious than somebody
who's in town because theyspending the money.
They spending the money blindly.
That's what I would say, yeah,that's what I would say yeah.
(38:38):
So they got to be able to trustand believe in your process and
believe.
Trust and believe in who youare for them in order for them
to invest into you.
So, most of the time, thosepeople are going to do well,
because they're going to doeverything that you told them to
do, because they want to endwith.
But I tell people this all thetime how do you truly know if
what I'm doing works if younever do it?
(38:59):
The only way to value a teacheris by paying attention in class
and doing the homework.
Yeah, because if I value theteacher in class and I do the
homework when it's exam time,I'll be ready.
Yeah, but if I don't value theteacher and do the homework,
when it's exam time, I'll beready.
Yeah, but if I don't value thisteacher and do the homework when
it's exam time, I will not beready and I will be nervous and
I'll be shaken and I'll beuneasy about taking this test
(39:22):
when everybody else like man,I'm ready.
Man, I'm feeling wrong.
Man, come on, hurry up, go withc yeah it's always c so, yeah,
man, man, um jabari, my brother.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Thank you, junior, thank you, man and chester, this
episode would not have beenpossible if you weren't here.
To you know, share and impartyour wisdom on us.
This is critical, so it's soextremely critical, like I said,
for me personally and I know alot of people whether you're
just coming up, you know, likemy son, who's 19 years old, who
needs to start to get in shapeyou know he's really slim or
(39:56):
whether it's someone that I,like I mentioned earlier, might
feel like dude, it's too latefor me, man.
I've gone past this point.
You know I might as well giveup.
It is what it is, or someonewho's battling something you
know, an illness or whatever itis like.
These moments are super criticaland I hope if people are
listening to you and listeningto your voice and what you're
bringing and again going tothese, to your social media
(40:26):
pages, and finding you orsomeone like you to work with so
that we can stay healthy.
Man, we are here dropping likeflies, not even taking care of
ourselves.
As you can tell, there is somuch more we can discuss and
talk about.
We'll definitely have torevisit this conversation and
figure out what's really goingon with us, with our health, our
fitness and especially ourmental health.
(40:47):
Join us next week as we willanswer questions from young
women who wrote into the show sowe can give them a true
perspective, a male perspective,one that is without an agenda
except to see you succeed.
Take care of your mind, bodyand soul.
(41:07):
I love you and I'll talk to younext week.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I love you and I'll talk to you next week.
And I hate to say this, and I hate to even see it.
But how can you watch your momdie from sugar diabetes, your
dad die from high blood pressure, your uncle die from being
obese?
You're watching these thingsand do nothing about it.
You're watching these thingsand still have the same approach
to food.
You're still eating the samething that big mama ate like
(00:24):
year after year, weekend afterweekend, day after day after day
.
And how can you expect nothingto happen to you?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
thanks again for joining us this week.
We are continuing theconversation about health,
fitness, nutrition and overallwellness.
I'm joined today by my residentco-host, jabari Pride, by
comedian extraordinaire andco-host of the Steve Harvey
(00:54):
Morning Show, mr Kia JuniorsBates, and our expert this week
is Chester Lacey, a man who hascommitted himself to combating
laziness, disease and justoverall complacency in not just
himself but everyone around him.
(01:15):
He has been a competitor, abodybuilder, an inspiration and,
quite frankly, a leader in hisspace.
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Please remember that this is acontinuing conversation, so be
sure to go back and listen tolast week's episode, part one,
for this to make sense.
Welcome to Manhood Matters,where we have real conversations
regarding real issues with realpeople with real experience.
(02:19):
Let's get to it so I can't havea cheat day.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
The reason being you gotta think about this.
You've been cheating your wholelife Before you got to me.
You've been cheating, damn yeah, but you Asking me for a cheat
meal Already.
How old are you, man?
You're 46 years old.
You've been cheating For 46years.
Now.
You wanna get serious?
You gonna chill.
So when I'm gonna get A cheatday, huh yeah.
Show me you can lose 40 pounds,and then I'd give you one
(03:02):
Gotcha.
Show me you could lose 30pounds, and I'd give you one.
Show me you could drop 15pounds, and I'd give you one.
Show me something first, don'task me for nothing.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I love that, so give me something.
So.
I can give you back something,because let me tell you
something.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
In that discipline, in you going that way, you know
what's going to happen, youdon't want it.
You, what's going to happen?
You don't want it.
You're going to say, fuck thatcheap meal.
Yeah, because you're going tosay to yourself I'm looking this
good by doing this.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Hell, no, I ain't going to eat that bullshit?
I can see my ass.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I can't get fine.
Right now I'm talking about fatfolk all day.
Fat ass out my way.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
You're going to be on there with your shirt on.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I ain't even buying shirts.
You gonna be out there WithSteve off Getting blood and then
getting Wired and open.
Everything I wear Is a vest.
Everything, taylor Well.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I'm telling you Right now Chiz, this kid just done,
chiz.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And I promise you, man, it's gonna happen for you,
brother, I promise.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But yeah, man, I say that to say Because you gotta
Think about this If, mentally,I'm already thinking about
achievement, I'm not thinkingabout the goal well, it's, it's
what's been fed to us for a longtime, because here's the thing
right, we hear how do you dothis and you can remain
disciplined in a way where youdon't have that craving, so all
right so do I give in to thatcraving, but I limit it to one
(04:20):
day, or whatever it may be soonce you do something for 21
days, it becomes a habit, right?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
so after that 21 days of you doing that, you have
done a phenomenal job.
If you did what you're supposedto do, you're gonna be down 10,
15, 20, it just depends ongaining, if that's your yeah it
just depends on your level ofseriousness.
I tell people this all the time.
I'm going to give youeverything to set you up for
(04:47):
success, to the point where, ifit don't work, I'll give you
your money back.
I'm going to give you your mealplan, your water regimen and a
cardio regimen, everythingdesigned to get you towards the
goal right.
And if you do everything I'mrequesting of you to do and you
do not change, here go yourmoney.
(05:07):
That's how sure I am of what Ido, right but they have to do
their part.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
You're saying they got to do their yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
That's all.
All you got to do is do thehomework.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Let me ask you this Is there what's an easy way for
men to start men in particularwithout feeling overwhelmed?
There's someone who hasn't doneshit in a super long time,
whether they're obese, orwhether they're just like too
small, whatever, you know.
Wherever they fall on thespectrum, what can they?
What can they do?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
What's the small steps?
Can they?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
do to start somewhere .
Let's say you don't have atrainer.
Let's say you can't.
Not everybody could get to Chagainst Chester, right?
What can they do to move andnot feel overwhelmed?
Walking, Walking.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, I need that.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
But see, at a certain point see like after the age of
60, the only thing that's goingto be important is strength
training.
So you're going to have to findyour way to the gym.
If you're a silver sneaker andyou're 60 years old, find your
way to the gym.
If you're a silver sneaker andyou're 60 years old, find your
way to the gym.
Because everyone, after the ageof 60 or higher, you're going
to start running into spells ofsyncope.
(06:10):
Those are dizzy spells andthose are spells where you end
up falling and fracturing yourface, hip, thigh, knee or
whatever.
The only way to slow thatprocess down is by strength
training.
Because what will happen is, ifyou do not do any strength
training leading up to that age,when you fall you ain't gonna
even be able to pick yourself up.
You hit that flow.
(06:31):
You're gonna be sliding intothe front door because you can't
even pick yourself up off theground is there a point of no
return for some people in your,in your, opinion?
no, I feel like long as you'reliving and breathing, there's
always an opportunity.
That's because I solely believein mankind.
I've seen so many stories.
(06:52):
I've seen so many testimonies.
I've seen a lady get started at70 years old and was a big,
obese lady.
And four years down the line,she was slim and in shape and
living more than some youngpeople.
So at the end of the day, no,you cannot make excuses for life
.
You just have to find a way toget it done.
(07:12):
Me, that's my motto.
Don't give me no excuse.
Find a way to get that shitdone.
I don't care if you got to goat fucking 11 o'clock at night.
I don't care if you got to goat 12 o'clock in the morning.
I don't care if you got to goat 12 o'clock in the morning.
I don't care if you got to goat I wake up at 3 am Me.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You sound like ET right now, bro.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I wake up at 3 am Me Going in my garage to do cardio
and doing fasted abs in themorning.
Me Because I want to look likesomething.
It ain't for nobody in my house, it ain't for nobody on this
podcast, it ain't for nobody inthis, it's for me.
This is how Chess want to look.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, how you show up is so critical?
Because I will tell you, man,even what we do, jabari, we show
up and we meet people.
Whether it's a business meeting, whether it's a sales
presentation, I am treateddifferent based on the way I
look.
I'm in shape.
When I go shake someone's hand,everything matters right.
And you show up and you lookdisciplined.
That's all they see about you.
(08:10):
They're like this person iscommitted to something right.
Someone shows up in a businessmeeting and they're like ripped.
The first thing you think aboutis well, that's not something
you're born with, this issomething you work towards.
So this person is committed toexcellence.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Your respect level for somebody who looks the part
is going to be totally different.
And watch this.
They may not even have theknowledge.
Wow, yeah, they're just doingthe work.
They're just grinding, they maynot even have the knowledge,
but based off their appearancealone, you're going to give them
the attention.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So I asked you this question earlier.
You never got a chance toanswer it because I cut you off
my bad.
Talk to me about fasting.
We talked about nutrition.
Talk to me about fasting,because that has to be there.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
So I you know me personally I believe in fasting
to a certain point, but I don'tbelieve in fasting like six to
nine hours or not like that.
Me personally, when I firstwake up, if I'm waking up at
three o'clock, I will fast aboutfour.
I mean, you know, about fiveo'clock or maybe six, but in
(09:12):
that time I'm fasting, I'mdrinking a copious amounts of
water, so I'm trying to flush,I'm trying to push out
everything from the night beforeif it didn't come out, and
everything in that morning.
So when I start eating my foodbecause I know if I drink 16
ounces of water, it's going toautomatically speed up the
metabolism so I'm alreadyputting fire on the wood
(09:33):
immediately once I startdrinking that water.
So then once I eat my firstmeal, it's going to absorb all
the nutrients and it's going togo to all the right places.
So fasting is good but it'sbased off how you come off the
fast.
You can't fast six to ninehours and then go right to
mcdonald's.
It's not smart and it's notgonna help you what about?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
fasting.
People who fast a couple ofdays like my wife's done it, you
know, um she does a lot ofresearch on that stuff.
Santana's done it.
Um hell, they try to kill me,trying to get me to do it, for
one day I almost died 36 hoursfasting this stuff that they do
routinely.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, it is studies that prove it does work.
Yeah, you know, and I justdon't have as much information
in relation to that.
But also, at the same time, Iwould say this Sometimes people
fast for religious purposes, andI respect that, you know.
Sometimes people fast forreligious purposes, and I
respect that.
You know I will never goagainst anybody fasting for
religious purposes or religiousreasons or anything like that.
(10:29):
So whatever they're doing, uh,to make them feel better
spiritually, and if it's makingthem feel more whole, then I'm
all for that.
So it it me.
With the health you coulddisregard that.
When it comes to the spirit andthe word of God, I'm all for.
Whatever you feel like you needto do to get closer to the
(10:50):
spirit and to the word, or towhatever your belief system is,
I'm all for that.
Uh, but in reference to thefasting, like, like I said, it's
good to a certain extent, butfor me, I just feel like I don't
have as much information onthat side.
But also, at the same time, Ijust feel like how am I going to
be able to get the propernutrition for my body if I'm
fasting six to nine hours a day,and then when is my last meal
(11:12):
going to be?
Yeah, I'm not the Lord, youknow.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Now we're talking days Like people will take it
seriously.
Even again, talking to Santana,he's like even every 30 days or
so it'll be either a 24-hourfast, sometimes a 36-hour fast.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Fastness is some crazy thing I'm doing, just if
it's not for religious purposes.
Why would I give up food, metoo.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
A chicken sandwich.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Because I believe that?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Well, it's not.
What is it?
It's not religious, I love whatyou're saying they're doing it
because of health reasons.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I'm going to do some research on that and the next
time I come on this podcast, Ihave more information for you
about it.
But I need to understand what'sthe purpose behind it, because,
I agree with you, it's like ifthe body is without nutrition,
where is the nutrition comingfrom?
If I've been fasting for 24, 36, or 72 hours, am I putting my
body in such a deficit to thepoint where I cannot move?
(12:05):
Am I weak?
Am I lethargic?
What am I?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I mean, at the end of the day, Are they just trying
to like jumpstart ketosis, youthink?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I think that too, Like because I think sometimes
you can fast to reset yoursystem.
You know, I know that, you know, but I also know that you could
do three, three days no carbsand that resets the digestive
system.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So can you explain ketosis, just in case people are
listening.
They're like I don't.
I have no idea what ketosismeans.
I'm sitting here and didn'tknow what it is so my
understanding of ketosis is,when you start to starve, your
body it starts to burn insteadof burning what it normally
burns, let's say the, I guess,the simple carbohydrates it
(12:49):
starts burning like the morecomplex stuff, so like the fat
that you're storing.
You burn off all the silly stuff, so now your body's like we
don't have anything, so now Igotta go into the deep freezer,
yeah, and I gotta start pullingthe meat out of the deep freeze
and start burning that up.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
In my opinion, the ketosis thing is just like doing
fasted cardio.
Fasted cardio and nighttimecardio will be almost like doing
the same thing.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
So you said fasted, fasted cardio.
What is that?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
The only way for the body to truly be fasted.
You have to be done eating.
For what is it like?
Eight to nine hours.
So, whatever your last meal is,you need to be done eating.
For what is it like?
Eight to nine hours.
So, like whatever your lastmeal is, you need to be eight to
nine hours before you wake upand do whatever.
So it's like, say I stop eatingat 12, wake up at eight o'clock
I'm fasted.
That means there's nothing in mysystem because my body is
(13:40):
ridding and burning everythingoff Before I wake up.
So that's why, immediately whenyou wake up, sometimes you
might do one, two, sometimesthree To the bathroom After you
finish completely using thebathroom.
I don't know, for some reason Icould use the bathroom two
times and as soon as I get inthe shower I gotta use it again.
I don't know what the hellthat's about, but so after my
(14:00):
third time I'll tell you what'sabout?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
It's about washing your ass.
Forget the fitness part.
This is about bathing.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, but up to say after I get out of the shower,
after that third time, that'swhen you want to weigh yourself,
because that's when you're atyour true weight.
The moment you finish using thebathroom completely, that's
when you're at your true weight.
That's just something toremember.
Yeah, but then my body iscompletely rid of everything and
now I'm ready to go do fastercardio.
(14:28):
So the faster cardio is gonnaburn directly on body fat,
because it ain't nothing else inhere.
That's why doing faster cardiois so good and doing faster abs
is so good, because it's nothingin the system to impede you
from developing these musclesright here, because there's no
carbohydrates in there.
(14:49):
There's really nothing in there.
And then I'm just focused oncentrally burning body fat.
To burn body fat is slowresistance, long duration.
Slow resistance meaning like Icould just be walking.
But it has to be a longduration and that's the.
I would say that the terraincannot change, so it needs to be
(15:09):
on the three incline.
30 minutes, speed two I'm goingto hit after 12 to 20 minutes
of exercise.
You burn through all yourcarbohydrates, your sugar, and
the only energy source to beused after that 12 to 20 minutes
is fat.
So that's when, after that 12to 20 minutes.
I'm in a fat burner zone.
So that's why most of the timewhen you're doing a cardio, you
(15:31):
won't notice you start burningor sweating until after 12, 15
to 20 minutes.
Sometimes For me it's like 13or 12.
For me, as soon as I hit 12, Istart sweating, but that's
because everything is burned off.
Now I'm in that fat burning,I'm in that fat burning zone.
But you know, it's just so manyfactors when it comes to all of
(15:51):
that and so Do you have to haveyour heart rate at a certain
zone as well?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It does.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And that's what I was just gonna say because it's got
like be over like 100 for acertain age, like 109 to 110 is
like 40s or something like that,and uh, 50s is just a little
bit higher.
But they have the sensors onhere so but the most majority of
the time, the higher you takethe incline, the more the heart
rate gonna go up.
Yeah, it makes sense.
You don't necessarily have toput the speed up so high.
But what I try and challengepeople to do is try not to use
the handrails.
So put it at a speed where youcould not have to use the
handrails and just do it likethat.
(16:26):
But back to your question.
Yes, I do believe that, like yousaid, the fasting is the
purpose that I'm doing, that isto get some of that fat that
they uh, it's hard to target, toconcentrate on that, and I
think that's the purpose ofdoing that.
For sure got it now that you.
You say that I know for a fact.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's the reason why people are doing it, because if
it's not for a religiouspurpose, it's solely to reset
the system and to centralize uhfat burn in those stubborn areas
but then when you, when youcome off that fast, you can't
just go right back to McDonald'sright, hell, no.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
So like what's the first thing you should do, why
not?
Who said, is it a rule?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, It'll mess your stomach up for one.
You'll start throwing up.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So what's the first thing?
You should probably like Water,water and something simple,
like Like fruits, vegetables.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yes, like, uh like fruits vegetables, water fruits
vegetables, mild fruitvegetables, and then just start
slowly implementing to yoursister don't try and have a full
meal, just kind of like got it,you know slowly introduce it
and then, once the metabolismcranks up, you'll you'll know
when it's time to eat, for surejust the our community is is
struggling with diabetes and allkinds of things you know.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
You mentioned some to me that I haven't heard you
mention here in the podcast.
I'll say it because that linestuck with me.
You said that for us and a lotof people in our community,
health, fitness, wellness is anoption, oh yes, whereas with
other communities it is aresponsibility.
It's a requirement.
It's a must.
(17:56):
Yeah, not an option, it's justresponsibility, it's a
requirement.
It's a must.
Yeah, not an option.
It's just something to do.
So what is there?
Have you found that there arecultural, societal challenges
that make us think that way?
And how do we kind of like helppeople get on the right path?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I think, to be honest with you, due to history and
due to what has happened to ourpeople over the years, it has
created a mindset in which wefeel like um, for one we're
invincible and for two, uh, thatum and nothing happened to me,
yeah and for two, that thingsare optional.
(18:34):
Uh, and I and I hate to say this, and I and I hate to even see
it.
But how can you watch a mom diefrom Sugar diabetes, your dad
die from high blood pressure,your uncle die from being obese?
You watching these things anddo nothing about it.
You watching these things andstill have the same Approach to
(18:54):
food, you still eating the sameThing that big mama ate Like
year after year, weekend afterweekend, day after day after day
.
And how can you expect nothingto happen to you?
And that's that's the problemin our community, because we
feel invincible.
It ain't gonna happen to me.
I watched the podcast I mean nota podcast, but I watched the,
(19:16):
the uh, uh, the netflixdocumentary of jamie foxx.
And that was his first thing.
He said man, this me, man, thisjamie foxx, man, how this gonna
happen to me, right, right,that's because we believe that
we could just go about life anddoing whatever we want to do and
ain't nothing gonna happen.
You cannot sit here and tell meyou're gonna eat the same thing
(19:36):
that you've ate since, and andI'll say this because you don't
really remember what you've beeneating at one years old but I'm
gonna say since the age of 10years old, all the way up to 40
years old, and you feel likethat is not going to affect you
at all.
You've been having the samehealth habits and you, you take
the same approach for food sincefrom 10 to 40 and you feel like
(19:58):
you're not going to have nohealth conditions.
You ain't going to have nosugar diabetes, you ain't going
to have no high blood pressure.
You only drink a cup of water aday.
You love sweets.
You got a desk job where yousitting there and you getting
big back, big back I'm talkingabout Cadillac back, because
they bringing in desserts andthey having potlucks and they
(20:21):
bringing in pies and the vendorsbringing in stuff.
You just eating, eating andsitting, and eating and sitting
and you expect nothing to happen.
And see, the danger in it allis this we put more value on the
job than we do our body.
I got to get to work, but yougot.
(20:43):
I mean, man, it'd be so sad.
Your shirt's getting bigger andthe pants getting bigger too.
I mean, it's so crazy.
I lived in Ohio for four years.
I was topping the region outthere as a personal trainer.
I trained so many people Openheart surgeons, doctors, lawyers
.
I was training some of the Mostinfluential people In the
(21:03):
community and they valued meBecause they knew I knew what I
was doing for one and then fortwo, they knew I was passionate
About it.
But when I came back here Tovisit from time to time and I go
to see people At my old churchand stuff like that, and I'm
sitting here like Every yearthese folks Getting bigger and
bigger.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
We need some more room.
Yeah, I mean, you know, theysaid the shoulder, the shoulder.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Boy, that job right there, it blow my mind.
Yeah, I say you just don'tnotice that neck getting thicker
and thicker, do you?
But Some people just don't takeit serious.
They don't take it seriousuntil the doctor tell them.
And I'm going to be honest withyou by the time the doctor tell
you that you have a condition,you still ain't going to change
Because your body and your mindyou're so used to being a
(21:52):
certain way.
If the doctor tell you you gotto lose 30 pounds in 30 days,
you're just going to go on anddie Because you're so used to
having that happen.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
That's where we at yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And I hate to say that, but it's like us as a
community, we got to make itmore important Because, like I
said, everybody holds a veryimportant part in each family
that you're in and if somethingwas to happen to any person in
that family who is a veryvaluable person, it's going to
shake up the whole family and,like I said, and like you've
(22:26):
heard on this podcast you'veheard it's only an emergency to
us, it's not an emergency tothem people coming to your house
, it's not an emergency to thatdoctor or that nurse.
It's just another job.
You got to take care of you.
You have to be serious aboutyou Because they not going to be
(22:52):
.
That's powerful, bro.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, man, I have some questions, man, like about
some of the things that we'restroking out.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Man, what you know stress and you know, you know
that's what we work out it'slike to to relieve the stress
because you, a lot of times,when you do not have an outlet,
your body is like a tea kettlefilling up with pressure.
If it don't come out, it'sgonna come out on somebody, and
the majority of the time theycome out on somebody that we
(23:19):
truly love.
So we burning bridges becausewe have no outlet.
We burning bridges with ourdaughters, our sons, our wives,
our brothers because we sofrustrated with all this pent up
frustration because we have nooutlet.
We getting bigger and bigger,my foot starting to hurt and I
don't want to go to the doctor.
It's sad, but that's what I'msaying.
(23:49):
It's not an option.
It should be a mandatory thingin our community, especially how
things have, how we have beenbrought into this society.
We need to be more seriousabout what we're doing so we can
stay in the society.
Ultimately, man, you got tounderstand.
Since the beginning of time,they've been talking about
population control.
This is all a game that we'rein.
It's population control.
(24:11):
If we make the food where it'sso addictive to the point where
you can't have just one cookie,I can't, you gonna have three,
four, five.
Yes, we did that on purpose.
Wow, we're doing this stuff onpurpose.
Covid was on purpose.
Yeah, it was an emergency toyou, but it's not an emergency
(24:35):
to them.
They just throwing your body inthe back of the damn building.
And the reason why America gotrocked by it so much is because
our level of immunity is down.
Most people, if 90 percent ofAmerica, are obese.
Any virus that comes throughthe United States is going to
(24:55):
rock a whole bunch of people,and what that's going to do in
return?
Minimize the population,because they already feel like
it's not enough food to feed thepeople.
So we have to find ways tominimize the population.
Viruses, disease, illnesses,food.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
There's something you just said a little while ago I
don't think that we as black menever really take seriously.
We don't really think about it.
It's how the people will beimpacted People, countless Wives
, our kids, hell, mom, you knowOther people who are looking to
you in a certain way and we'renot taking care of this one
human that we're in charge oftaking care of now.
(25:38):
What do you think that is?
What do you think we resistthat so much as men?
Is it what you talked about?
Is it just this feeling ofbeing invincible?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I truly believe.
It's a feeling of beinginvincible, or this can't happen
to me but see um, or do we justworry about ourselves?
Last no, Because I find thatsometimes I just feel like that
for me?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I don't even think about me, bro.
Sometimes I find that it's achallenge.
I'm thinking about everybodyelse, I'm thinking about what I
got to do and, like I told youearlier in the show, like I was
just saying, like you know, likewhere I've been mentally,
mentally it's go go, go tryingto figure some shit out, trying
to solve some other issue.
But I'm not thinking about meat all.
I got shit that hurts.
You know it's funny, you knowyou look at me.
You'd be like you know you're atrainer, you could probably
(26:18):
pick it out.
But a lot of people would lookat me and go, oh, he's in shape.
And just the other day, just Iwas like that tea kettle.
You know, I just felt like thisurge.
I'm not a runner, I hate running, right, I right, I play sports
to not not to run, if that makessense.
Like I'll play soccer, causethere's a goal.
I run for 90 minutes.
But me just running, I don'tlike doing it.
And I had the urge.
It was like some spiritualcalling to me saying you need to
(26:40):
go run to let the shit out.
And you know I ran.
I got to my front gate and Iwas winded.
Now, normally, if you don't, ifI didn't test this.
I go play soccer tomorrow.
Be like oh, there's a game,pickup game.
Yeah, let's go, I'm gonna killthese dudes.
That's the way I'd be thinkingabout it.
But I actually ran to my gateand I was.
My goal was to go, you know, upthe street.
I got to my gate, I was likeshit this is the first time, and
(27:03):
so it was reality setting infor me, saying you know, you've
neglected yourself, you'veneglected your body, you've not
taken care of yourself, youhaven't done anything.
How dare you think you can justget up, pick it up?
I thought, I thought I couldjust pick it up where I left it
off, you know I left it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I was like I can just go run a few miles right now,
not a problem.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
And then I got to my gate and I was like I'm tired.
I ran up the street.
I had I had an excuse rightbecause I turned right.
I started going and you see howit's like a dead end, it's all
like forest and shit.
I ran up here and I heard a dogbarking.
I was like, ah, I'm going toget bit by a dog.
I ran back home.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Safety.
I was like, yeah, I was likethat's my excuse.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I need an excuse.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I was like I'm going to run back home, man.
I think it is a lot to do withus black men always having to be
take care of everybody, likeyou know, like my father you
know of.
Back in 2017 he had a heartattack, right, father?
You know?
He worked for southwestern bellor at&t.
(28:03):
Actually, you know, 45 yearsretired, he actually do, like
you know, and my father gotdifferent type of strength, like
he ain't working out type ofstrip.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
But my dad, goddamn strong, like if he want to hold
your ass you're not finna,resist, I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
And I'm telling you like it's like even for him, man
, like he had a heart attack,man, and it really hit me really
hard because I'm like, wait aminute, he's solid.
No, not him, that's solid.
No, not him, that's Superman,that's right.
So when you said that, likethis is not going to happen to
me, that's a real mentality,that's some wrong.
Like I got to think about that.
(28:40):
I don't know what you, Stephon,I'm just saying the other day,
man, I was with him the otherday when I was talking about it.
This was wrong with you,Wallace wrong with you.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
While I was just I, I filled up, I was, I was full
too.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Part of the reason we do this podcast, too, is we
connect people, and ain't crazyyeah, because I can't tell you.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
It's like so far it's only been a few episodes and we
just have people meeting eachother and connecting.
So you know, I'm blessed tohave people in my life, like I
have jabari in my life.
Who can I mean to you?
Right and then santana connectme to the connected me to you,
and Right and then Santanaconnected me to you, and now you
guys are connected.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And the reason why me and Santana I've been knowing
Santana over 10 years.
We served as armor bearers forour bishop, we did security for
the bishop at the time and meand Santana we've always had a
great relationship For years, tothe point where, like he said,
the garage gym I was up at hisgarage gym Training him In his
(29:37):
garage gym, him and his neighbor.
You know Because, like Santana,he followed my story.
He's watched me Morph into abodybuilder.
He knows what you know.
He knows me very well when itcomes to this, so he know that I
went and got the information.
He know I studied to show thatself-approval.
He know I know what I'm doing,correct.
So for him to recommend me toyou.
(29:58):
And it's so crazy because meand Santana hadn't talked
because of his illness orwhatever, and I was trying to
give my brother his space,because a lot of times with men
you don't want to be over a manwhen he's dealing.
You know I could check on you,but just to be all the time on
you it's like, bro, I'm tryingto figure this shit out.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
You know what I mean.
Yeah, it's funny you should saythat, because I actually worked
out a formula for this.
You know, because you'reactually right, I deal with the
shit I deal with every day orwhoever you know.
Whatever you got to deal withevery day.
I don't want, I don't want tohear from people.
I don't.
You're not calling me with asolution, you know.
All I know is that you know youcall me, whatever it is.
So what I've done because whatI found is that I still want you
(30:41):
, as my brother, to be there forme.
I don't know how to ask.
So if I know that a brotherneeds me and and I've got
someone that's going throughthis now, he's done with some
things right now, and what Itold him is this I said look,
I'm going to call you Friday atthis time.
I'm going to call you Friday atsix o'clock.
If you don't want to talk,don't answer, but I'm going to
call you, no matter what.
If you don't answer, I'll knowit's because you don't want to
(31:03):
talk.
Or two days ago I called him.
We were on the phone for anhour and a half.
Right, that was his choice toanswer, but my job was hey, I'm
going to show up for the nextthree months.
You answer, you answer, youknow, you answer, you answer.
But just so you know, I'm hereif you feel like having this
(31:27):
conversation and if you don't, Iget it, because I'm in a place
where I don't know if I can talkto you right now, you know so
when I'm going through my shitLike my best friend man.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
You know he's going through a lot right.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
And you know, like you know, they call me because
they know I got broad shouldersright and to hear your best
friend man say man, I need tolay this on you.
I don't feel like I look, youknow what I'm saying, like I
don't.
I'm, I'm having trouble withthis man, I'm, I'm masking
(31:59):
something here.
You know, my kids have hurt myfeelings.
I said this about them and thisI provide everything.
I gotta be the husband.
I'm the only check in here,like, like he's really going
through something man yeah I'mmercy, you know what I'm saying
and you have to learn how to.
You know what I'm saying.
Be a friend.
It ain't always about Trying tosolve the problem.
Sometimes you just need To lethim get it out.
(32:20):
Yes, sir, I sat there anddidn't say nothing, man, and
watched my best friend Of 25years Just break down.
Yeah, and I didn't say a word.
I just sat there for over anhour, man, I'm talking about
bawling, grown man bawling.
Yeah, that's how much pressurethey be putting.
(32:41):
That's what's leading us tothese strokes.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, and to go back to circle, right back to what
we're saying we have I love thisanalogy the the whole tea
kettle thing.
Yeah, the outlet needs to bedoing well, it's not the only
thing, but it physical fitness,wellness, taking care of
ourselves, self-care, self-careit's it's so so important
(33:04):
because again, especially for usmen.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Man, like mental health is so important for us
men, just like you said, becausewe deal with a lot on a daily
basis.
If you have kids, you deal withone a lot, or if you have a lot
of family members who justdepend on you, it's a lot.
You hear a lot, you deal with alot and trying to find ways To
provide for all of these people,because you hear the stuff but
(33:26):
you still got to find a way toprovide.
You still got to.
Even sometime when you ain'teven got a way, even when you
don't even know what to do, youstill in your mind feel like
because I know this has been me,I've been on a faith walk for a
long time and sometime when itain't been there, I'll say Lord,
(33:50):
I know you're going to do it,and no later than the day in he
done, did it every single time.
So that's strong.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, talk to us about some of the resources you
talked about earlier, becauseI'm really interested in and I
want to make sure everybody hasinfo.
Again, this will be in the shownotes so people can go and
check it out, click the linksetc.
But, um, you mentioned theclinic is, uh, as far as making
sure we go and get tested,understanding what the blood
panel, what that looks like, sowe could know what the right
(34:21):
path is and how to get startedchecking out testosterone levels
etc.
Where is that?
I mean that's for people herein georgia obviously so for the
people here in georgia.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
They have a couple of places that I recommend.
Uh would be ageless Men andBody Symmetry.
Those are two places that Irecommend.
They do really good work.
They'll do a blood panel on you, they'll test your blood and
everything, and then they'll goover all the information with
you.
Now you're dealing with doctors, like you're not dealing with
no people off the street.
You're dealing with certifiedpersonnel.
(34:50):
These people know what they'redoing.
They people off the street.
You're dealing with certifiedpersonnel.
These people know what they'redoing.
They're not going to give youwhat you don't need.
No, they're not giving youanything that you don't need.
You're not going to getperformance dosages.
You're only going to get whatis recommended to bring your
body to homeostasis, and that'sit.
You are going to sign acontract, too, because it's
going to state that you can onlywork with them.
You can only use their stuff,because their stuff is
pharmaceutical based.
It's all been tested andapproved, so they don't want any
(35:15):
liability with you trying to dosomething else or use something
else, and then they end upbeing sued, and what you're
referring to is people who geton TRT and they start to feel
really good, or anything.
Because they may not recommendTRT, they may recommend another
supplement or whatever, butwhatever it is, it's all
pharmaceutical-based, it's allFDA-approved and all this other
(35:36):
stuff.
So it's like you don't have toworry about any issues and
they're the ones doing themonitoring, they're the ones
doing the blood work.
They'll be calling you, goingover your panel and everything,
so you can get a goodunderstanding of what's really
going on.
That's one place I mean reallygoing on.
Um, uh, that's one place.
I mean the two places Irecommend.
Also, you can definitely go toyour primary care physician and
(35:57):
ask for them to do just a basicblood panel on you, where it's
just going to test your blood ondifferent foods and stuff like
that, and it'll be able to showyou what you're allergic to,
what you're not allergic to andwhat your body can handle and
what it cannot handle.
Um, so those are the two thingsthat I definitely recommend
that we do.
Uh, you know, get yourtestosterone levels checked, get
a blood panel done and so thatyou kind of know what you're
(36:19):
allergic to and what you're notallergic to.
And, uh, you know, get withsomeone who is well-versed when
it comes to personal training,fitness and nutrition.
Don't just randomly picksomebody.
Ask these people where havehave you been certified, how
long have you been certified,and have you ever dealt with
someone like myself?
Me personally, I'm here foranybody who needs the help.
(36:41):
You can find me on Instagram.
I have a muscle by the poundpage.
It's muscle B-U-Y the pound,because I believe you're buying
muscle.
When you connect with me.
I also have a personal page,which will be BMG underscore
Chester.
That's my more personal pagefamily, bodybuilding and stuff
(37:02):
like that but you can definitelyfind me there as well.
I do have online programs, soyou'll see a lot of the links
and stuff in my bio and whatnot.
But, yeah, a lot of peopleconnect with me basically
through word of mouth.
I feel like word of mouth isthe ultimate networking tool,
because the reason why word ofmouth is more beneficial than an
(37:24):
IG page or an IG post or aFacebook page or post is because
this person has an experience.
It's just like a person goingto a restaurant and they can
already vouch that the food isgood because they've been going
there for three to four weeksand they know for a fact the
food is really good, versussomebody saying let's go check
this new restaurant out.
(37:44):
You go there and the food isterrible.
So a lot of people connect withme through word of mouth.
But you have all my socialhandles if need be.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I'll make sure that's posted in the show notes as
well.
So make sure you give me thatso I can make sure it's up there
, because you will work withpeople, even if they are not.
You know.
You can work with them onlineas well, you can design a
program for people so they cango ahead.
How difficult is that forsomeone to actually?
You know, you got someone inDallas, Texas, saying hey, I
want to work with you, I lovewhat you do.
Now you're really relying onthem to do what they're supposed
(38:16):
to do because you're not thereto watch it.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Well, most of the time, people like that, who are
out of town, they're going to bemore serious than somebody
who's in town because theyspending the money.
They spending the money blindly.
That's what I would say, yeah,that's what I would say yeah.
(38:38):
So they got to be able to trustand believe in your process and
believe.
Trust and believe in who youare for them in order for them
to invest into you.
So, most of the time, thosepeople are going to do well,
because they're going to doeverything that you told them to
do, because they want to endwith.
But I tell people this all thetime how do you truly know if
what I'm doing works if younever do it?
(38:59):
The only way to value a teacheris by paying attention in class
and doing the homework.
Yeah, because if I value theteacher in class and I do the
homework when it's exam time,I'll be ready.
Yeah, but if I don't value theteacher and do the homework,
when it's exam time, I'll beready.
Yeah, but if I don't value thisteacher and do the homework when
it's exam time, I will not beready and I will be nervous and
I'll be shaken and I'll beuneasy about taking this test
(39:22):
when everybody else like man,I'm ready.
Man, I'm feeling wrong.
Man, come on, hurry up, go withc yeah it's always c so, yeah,
man, man, um jabari, my brother.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Thank you, junior, thank you, man and chester, this
episode would not have beenpossible if you weren't here.
To you know, share and impartyour wisdom on us.
This is critical, so it's soextremely critical, like I said,
for me personally and I know alot of people whether you're
just coming up, you know, likemy son, who's 19 years old, who
needs to start to get in shapeyou know he's really slim or
(39:56):
whether it's someone that I,like I mentioned earlier, might
feel like dude, it's too latefor me, man.
I've gone past this point.
You know I might as well giveup.
It is what it is, or someonewho's battling something you
know, an illness or whatever itis like.
These moments are super criticaland I hope if people are
listening to you and listeningto your voice and what you're
bringing and again going tothese, to your social media
(40:26):
pages, and finding you orsomeone like you to work with so
that we can stay healthy.
Man, we are here dropping likeflies, not even taking care of
ourselves.
As you can tell, there is somuch more we can discuss and
talk about.
We'll definitely have torevisit this conversation and
figure out what's really goingon with us, with our health, our
fitness and especially ourmental health.
(40:47):
Join us next week as we willanswer questions from young
women who wrote into the show sowe can give them a true
perspective, a male perspective,one that is without an agenda
except to see you succeed.
Take care of your mind, bodyand soul.
(41:07):
I love you and I'll talk to younext week.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I love you and I'll talk to you next week.
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